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"No Kid Rock v.....my fault. Kid Rock vs. Beyonce"


  

          

Beyonce Fans Attack Kid Rock Online After Derogatory Comments

'Beyhive' descends upon Rock's Instagram after 'First Kiss' singer says superstar "doesn't really fucking do much for me" in Rolling Stone profile

Kid Rock has incurred the wrath of Beyoncé fans following comments he made about the pop star during his Rolling Stone interview.

In the latest issue of Rolling Stone, the singer detailed why he's "flabbergasted" by the intense Beyoncé fandom. "Beyoncé, to me, doesn't have a fucking 'Purple Rain,' but she's the biggest thing on Earth," he said. "How can you be that big without at least one 'Sweet Home Alabama' or 'Old Time Rock & Roll'?"

His criticism quickly turned to not understanding the physical attraction to the singer. "People are like, 'Beyoncé's hot. Got a nice fucking ass.' I'm like 'Cool, I like skinny white chicks with big tits.' Doesn't really fucking do much for me."

Fans of the "Drunk in Love" singer, known as the 'Beyhive,' have taken to social media to vent their frustrations with Rock and anger towards his criticisms. All of his recent Instagram pictures have been flooded with thousands of comments from super-fans with icons and usernames referencing Beyoncé.

While some of the comments are just a marker of presence — users simply posting the bee emoji or "#Beyhive" — others have turned personal and violent. "I HOPE KID ROCK MOM GETS GANG RAPED AND CATCHES AIDS AND DIES," reads one such note on a picture of Rock at the Today show.

"You ain't shit even to this day," says another. "Who are you? And why are you 70 still being called a kid?"

Rock recently released his 10th studio album, First Kiss. As noted in the profile, Rock received a controversial NAACP award in 2011. The Detroit chapter honored him with the Great Expectations award while many members protested the singer for his heavy use of Confederate flag imagery.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/beyonce-fans-attack-kid-rock-online-after-derogatory-comments-20150227

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nas lost
Feb 27th 2015
1
He needs to stfu
Feb 27th 2015
2
how many instruments bey play?
Feb 27th 2015
5
Don't hurt their Golden Calf like that.
Feb 27th 2015
6
how many hits kid rock got?
Feb 27th 2015
7
      SMH...
Feb 27th 2015
8
      strike 2
Feb 27th 2015
10
      dude has 21 total platinum certifications lol
Feb 27th 2015
17
           white people loyally buy albums.
Feb 27th 2015
34
                they do?
Feb 27th 2015
41
                disregarding a diamond album talking about big songs seems disingenuous
Feb 27th 2015
46
                his diamond album came out in 1998, as in before piracy
Feb 27th 2015
64
                     ok. how about 10 plat certs post-piracy?
Feb 27th 2015
86
                          his last platinum album was in 2010
Feb 27th 2015
112
                               im not interested in a rhetorical equivalent of the shell game
Feb 27th 2015
117
                                    lol i love this comeback
Feb 27th 2015
188
                                         atruhead is always getting cooked.
Mar 02nd 2015
280
                I'm gonna need to see many charts and graphs on this gotdamn shit
Feb 27th 2015
81
kid rock can freestyle, DJ, and play every instrument in his band
Feb 27th 2015
13
      And Ive still never heard a good song from Kid Rock except Picture
Feb 27th 2015
28
           thus highlighting the difference btwn personal taste and obj eval of tal...
Feb 27th 2015
29
                The same can apply to people who are saying Bey has no classics.
Feb 27th 2015
31
                     not really
Feb 27th 2015
37
                          so what are kid rock's classics?
Feb 27th 2015
42
                               u not gonna win this argument on a nerd site....ijs
Feb 27th 2015
45
                               you mean with people who know what words mean and how to use them?
Feb 27th 2015
54
                                    nah....i meant nerds
Feb 27th 2015
60
                               first of all im not even claiming any
Feb 27th 2015
51
                                    And the same with Beyonce's
Feb 27th 2015
59
                                         she has a great voice.
Feb 27th 2015
69
I love how Kid Rock probably give ZERO Flips about the response.
Feb 27th 2015
3
but why give even ONE Flip about anothers success?
Feb 27th 2015
72
      jealousy
Feb 27th 2015
82
      unless he wants to fuck Jay Z.........highly doubtful lol
Feb 27th 2015
98
      I'm sure he was asked a question.
Feb 27th 2015
140
           basically..but why RS ask HIM about Beyonce knowing that....
Feb 27th 2015
141
yeah all that Beyhive, Barbie stuff is childish
Feb 27th 2015
4
Sure they can have an opinion, and can be criticized for it.
Feb 27th 2015
30
      I don't disagree
Feb 28th 2015
245
Not a fan of Bey....
Feb 27th 2015
9
RE: No Kid Rock v.....my fault. Kid Rock vs. Beyonce
Feb 27th 2015
11
She ain't got not one single classic song.
Feb 27th 2015
12
You see my Twitter today? Not too many folks wanted to debate it
Feb 27th 2015
15
Nah, Single Ladies is played at almost every wedding during the bouquet....
Feb 27th 2015
23
RE: You see my Twitter today? Not too many folks wanted to debate it
Feb 27th 2015
35
wow. that list suggests beyonce' music is actually not pop enough
Feb 27th 2015
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      RE: wow. that list suggests beyonce' music is actually not pop enough
Feb 27th 2015
157
'Single Ladies' is it.
Feb 27th 2015
65
that's the one...that song will live on like them Bon Jovi hits
Feb 27th 2015
95
I was thinking the same thing
Feb 27th 2015
16
you're tripping. She has more album cuts than a few
Feb 27th 2015
21
      RE: you're tripping. She has more album cuts than a few
Feb 27th 2015
43
           I doubt anyone can name Elvis Presley's big album
Feb 27th 2015
                RE: I doubt anyone can name Elvis Presley's big album
Feb 27th 2015
68
                I dont think she's looking to change the world with her music.
Feb 27th 2015
77
                RE: I dont think she's looking to change the world with her music.
Feb 27th 2015
80
                same could be said for Jay ...
Feb 27th 2015
195
                Elvis' classic period was before coherent albums were important.
Feb 27th 2015
97
the rabid fanaticism is hilarious, fascinating and....disturbing
Feb 27th 2015
14
so irrelevant that RS did a longform interview with him? lol
Feb 27th 2015
19
RE: ehh he is, no?
Feb 27th 2015
44
      maybe to our demographic. but thats not representative of everyone
Feb 27th 2015
58
           that's true. I did't even know he got that big
Feb 27th 2015
75
irrelevant??? HOOOOOOOOOOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO!!!
Feb 27th 2015
135
      yoooo yall funny
Feb 27th 2015
152
           you have to see how this proves him right, dont you?
Feb 27th 2015
162
                irrevelant is a matter of opinion is it not?
Feb 27th 2015
181
                     i meant proving KRs original statement correct. and yes, to a point.
Feb 27th 2015
182
AT LEAST BEY STUCK WITH HER ORIGINAL GENRE
Feb 27th 2015
18
^^^Keeping It Ridiculous Always
Feb 27th 2015
20
saying that she doesnt have a Purple Rain is shitting on her?
Feb 27th 2015
22
Why is he picking on Beyonce?
Feb 27th 2015
78
      lol
Feb 27th 2015
88
KR has hits for days? lol
Feb 27th 2015
48
OMG... LOL
Feb 27th 2015
56
nah, Bey switched up too...
Feb 28th 2015
212
kid rock has had a weird transition
Feb 27th 2015
24
Makes sense if you consider he's always been a poser.
Feb 27th 2015
32
      thats doubtful. he still gets love from Detroit rappers.
Feb 27th 2015
40
      he grew up on old rock but loved hip hop
Feb 27th 2015
154
      u dont know what youre talking about
Feb 27th 2015
191
The Bey STANS are like the boy that cried.....
Feb 27th 2015
25
the Black baby moms is what's killing me
Feb 27th 2015
61
What he said about Beysus is probably the least questionable thing
Feb 27th 2015
105
i'm not big Bey fan but she has classics whether you like or not
Feb 27th 2015
26
Crazy In Love & Single Ladies, yes. The other two, nah.
Feb 27th 2015
33
Them joint ain't classics... lol
Feb 27th 2015
63
I don't even know what Get Me Bodied and Flawless are
Feb 27th 2015
187
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/kid-rock-puts-his-obama-hating-right-...
Feb 27th 2015
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called 2012 Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney “the most dece...
Feb 27th 2015
38
so?
Feb 27th 2015
71
      so that says a lot
Feb 27th 2015
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RE: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/kid-rock-puts-his-obama-hating-ri...
Feb 27th 2015
47
lol naw chief-- you meant hookers.
Feb 27th 2015
62
lol yup
Feb 27th 2015
74
he knows that you know that
Feb 27th 2015
89
^^^^exactly why the iggy's & youtube cover bands get called out
Feb 27th 2015
121
She seems to have a very distinct audience
Feb 27th 2015
36
It was shade
Feb 27th 2015
66
Nobody in the Beyhive has a good job AND relationship
Feb 27th 2015
39
Beyhive fanatics > Men with no facial hair
Feb 27th 2015
49
Beyhive fanatics = women with facial hair
Feb 27th 2015
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      Men with no facial hair = women
Feb 27th 2015
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      Women + facial hair - men = Beyhive
Feb 27th 2015
67
           ^^^^^^ Ratchet Math Problem Sheet
Feb 27th 2015
180
           LOL!
Feb 28th 2015
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           Ultra combo (C) Killer Instinct
Feb 27th 2015
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           oh my! - killer mike
Feb 28th 2015
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           she doesn't have a Sweet Home Alabama... lol
Feb 28th 2015
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           lmao
Mar 02nd 2015
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           LMAO!
Mar 02nd 2015
284
      lol
Feb 27th 2015
76
ROTFL
Feb 27th 2015
57
      That bible keeping you warm at night or nah?
Feb 27th 2015
70
           HA! Don't be mad.
Feb 27th 2015
125
this is mind-numbingly stupid.
Feb 27th 2015
52
.
Feb 27th 2015
53
Lol this won't hurt him
Feb 27th 2015
73
so basically, Kid Rock is not allowed to have opinions & preferences.
Feb 27th 2015
79
not on a Friday
Feb 27th 2015
83
Yea he is, and people are allowed to have their opinions about them.
Feb 27th 2015
84
but you said he need to "stfu."
Feb 27th 2015
85
      he does
Feb 27th 2015
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      why?
Feb 27th 2015
91
           he's a cracka, thats why lol
Feb 27th 2015
94
      and that's my opinion.
Feb 27th 2015
93
           i cape for truth, not for either of these bozos
Feb 27th 2015
99
           if he shut up, as you suggest, then you'd be prohibiting...
Feb 27th 2015
101
he is not allowed to express a negative opinion about Yonce.
Feb 27th 2015
90
ive always wondered "Yahntz" or "Yahntzay"
Feb 27th 2015
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      the latter
Feb 27th 2015
158
I'm no huge Beyonce fan either
Feb 27th 2015
104
      How?
Feb 27th 2015
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           RE: How?
Feb 28th 2015
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                I haven't read the full article
Mar 01st 2015
263
he didn't lie tho.
Feb 27th 2015
92
^^he really didn't tho - I was just saying to someone that although
Feb 27th 2015
103
they're wasting their time...he gives zero fucks
Feb 27th 2015
100
RE: they're wasting their time...he gives zero fucks
Feb 27th 2015
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RE: they're wasting their time...he gives zero fucks
Feb 28th 2015
200
When Yeezus does it he's an asshole but Kid Rock skirts.....
Feb 27th 2015
106
That's apples and oranges, fam
Feb 27th 2015
113
      In most respects yes, but the fact remains KR is picking on Beyonce.
Feb 27th 2015
116
           he actually didn't pick on her at all...
Feb 27th 2015
136
                cmon...when speakin on another artists theyre typically respectful
Feb 27th 2015
156
                     So being brutally honest is now synonymous w/disrespect?
Feb 27th 2015
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                          this wasnt any of that..it was something different/bait
Feb 27th 2015
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                          Yes it can be.
Feb 28th 2015
204
I suspect many Beyhive types know deep down that her output lacks that
Feb 27th 2015
107
any chance okp (mostly men these days anyhow) has a chance to shit on a
Feb 27th 2015
108
plays Ice Cube higher learning bitch black queen scene
Feb 27th 2015
109
People are just anti Beyonce in general
Feb 27th 2015
110
Lol
Feb 27th 2015
111
I say this in every 'yonce post.
Feb 27th 2015
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Yup. In fact, I'd gladly take Rihanna's run since
Feb 27th 2015
124
The good old days, when the music industry was a meritocracy
Feb 27th 2015
192
oh jesus christ
Feb 27th 2015
114
Facepalm!
Feb 27th 2015
126
Beyonce has hits. Been had hits since Destiny's Child
Feb 27th 2015
115
MM&I, Irreplaceable and Single Ladies are her only
Feb 27th 2015
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nope, I luv upgrade, crazy in love, deja vu and check on it plus the DC...
Feb 27th 2015
120
A hit and a classic are two different things.
Feb 27th 2015
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      to my ears "sweet home alabama" and "old time rock N roll" are weak
Feb 27th 2015
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           what makes them weak?
Feb 27th 2015
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                the reason why I said "to my ears" is that both songs seem to
Feb 27th 2015
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                     RE: the reason why I said "to my ears" is that both songs seem to
Feb 27th 2015
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                          RE: the reason why I said "to my ears" is that both songs seem to
Feb 27th 2015
193
had no idea somr OKPs rode this hard for Kid Rock Lmao
Feb 27th 2015
122
I think you're looking at that horse backwards.
Feb 27th 2015
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and to end Black History Month like this smh
Feb 27th 2015
131
didn't know there was an OKP beyhive
Feb 27th 2015
123
$$$
Feb 27th 2015
129
Kanye on Swift- Ppl say 'Taylors hot, got a nice rack'. Cool i like bigb...
Feb 27th 2015
128
Snoop on Azelia- Ppl say 'Iggy's hot, got a nice ass'. Cool i like black
Feb 27th 2015
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      why is that a problem? ppl say some variant of that here all the time
Feb 27th 2015
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           wasnt a rhetorical question. im not sure either way.
Feb 27th 2015
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                i may have misunderstood
Feb 27th 2015
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                     either/both
Feb 27th 2015
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                          well ted is in the wrong most of the time. KR, no. not here at least.
Feb 27th 2015
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sooo.......basically he's saying about her
Feb 27th 2015
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BEY-SICALLY
Feb 27th 2015
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Because it's Friday and we gotta talk about something to kill time
Feb 27th 2015
139
#83 lol
Feb 27th 2015
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plus the op is ''vs'',,,,,,,,its a get in the ring post on Friday lol
Feb 27th 2015
143
As far as I can remember Beyonce posts ALWAYS do numbers
Feb 27th 2015
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      = she's good
Feb 27th 2015
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           Beyonce has hits. Her posts ALWAYS doing numbers aren't necessarily
Feb 27th 2015
153
                Jazz Sullivan post went styrofoam
Feb 27th 2015
                Jazz Sullivan post went styrofoam
Feb 27th 2015
155
Don't you drop dat alchahol..
Feb 27th 2015
145
SimplyHannah is part of BeyHive?
Feb 27th 2015
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no, she'll just be damned of she let trashy KR talk shit
Feb 27th 2015
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when you say "let"...
Feb 27th 2015
160
      you know wtf I mean
Feb 27th 2015
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           tbh i rarely know wtf you mean
Feb 27th 2015
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                yet here u are jumpin in to respond to me lol
Feb 27th 2015
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                     RE: yet here i am seeking clarification. fixed that for you.
Feb 27th 2015
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                          go to dinner, cog
Feb 27th 2015
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                               burger or burrito?
Feb 27th 2015
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                                    its Friday...burger
Feb 27th 2015
176
                                         shit you just reminded me. Catholic school fish fry here i come!
Feb 27th 2015
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no I just dont have time for shade from this trashy bastard
Feb 27th 2015
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      holy shit lol
Feb 27th 2015
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           YOU JUST GOT STUNG BY THE BEYHIVE
Feb 27th 2015
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                BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Feb 28th 2015
251
                     LMAO
Mar 02nd 2015
290
RE: No Kid Rock v.....my fault. Kid Rock vs. Beyonce
Feb 27th 2015
148
#141
Feb 27th 2015
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RE: No Kid Rock v.....my fault. Kid Rock vs. Beyonce
Feb 27th 2015
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he really thought he was stuntin w/ that ''skinny yt chicks w/ big tits'...
Feb 27th 2015
172
So Rolling Stone posts an interview with the comments, and then
Feb 27th 2015
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I'm sayin'. can't we equally dislike all involved here?
Feb 27th 2015
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Kid Rock is a genius.....
Feb 27th 2015
196
I haven't forgot at all
Feb 28th 2015
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Give Drunk In Love more time.
Feb 27th 2015
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have we changed the definition of CLASSIC?
Feb 28th 2015
214
he told the truth about her wack butt songs
Feb 28th 2015
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If the reverse happened it would be just as dumb though.
Feb 28th 2015
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Id say he has one classic
Feb 28th 2015
203
I don't even like her music, and this shit irks me.
Feb 28th 2015
205
      This is the crux of the issue for me
Mar 01st 2015
276
           yeah, he's doubling down for his "new" demo
Mar 02nd 2015
289
Beyonce is to politically correct to diss another artist
Mar 01st 2015
255
Except he would probably say worse about R Kelly. n/m
Feb 28th 2015
229
      FYI He colloborated with R.Kelly and Ludacris on the song
Mar 01st 2015
254
--- wonder what trick-trick thinks abt this ?
Feb 28th 2015
207
The fact is that Kid Rock told the truth about Beyonce. End of Post.
Feb 28th 2015
208
RE: The fact is that Kid Rock told his opinion about Beyonce. End of Pos...
Feb 28th 2015
209
Give it up Hannah. White chicks with tits and Bob Seger > Bey.
Feb 28th 2015
210
Turn the Page is better than any Beyonce song though.
Feb 28th 2015
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      I'll take your word for it. I left my list of objective music quality in...
Feb 28th 2015
216
I don't like the way he did that shit and I'm not a Bey fan at all
Feb 28th 2015
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      What? What hand is he biting?
Feb 28th 2015
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           I said kudos for NOT biting the hand that feeds him
Feb 28th 2015
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                You sure did. My Bad.
Feb 28th 2015
220
                     yup
Feb 28th 2015
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                     RE: You sure did. My Bad.
Feb 28th 2015
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                          He's a Creative Artist, so I give him a pass.
Feb 28th 2015
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                               RE: He's a Creative Artist, so I give him a pass.
Feb 28th 2015
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RE: The fact is that Kid Rock told the truth about Beyonce. End of Post.
Feb 28th 2015
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      I went to party he DJ'd during fashion week in 2008 where he kept scream...
Feb 28th 2015
222
      RE: I went to party he DJ'd during fashion week in 2008 where he kept sc...
Feb 28th 2015
228
      now THIS is real/true preachin'
Feb 28th 2015
227
      Come on Murph. You calling the man a classic culture vulture?
Feb 28th 2015
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      RE: Come on Murph. You calling the man a classic culture vulture?
Feb 28th 2015
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      I respect all of what you said, but -
Feb 28th 2015
238
           Not being a serious matter =/= devoid of political and racial overtones
Feb 28th 2015
240
                RE: Not being a serious matter =/= devoid of political and racial overto...
Feb 28th 2015
242
      His opinions on her didn't turn into anything...
Feb 28th 2015
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           RE: His opinions on her didn't turn into anything...
Feb 28th 2015
236
           See post #238
Feb 28th 2015
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                RE: See post #238
Feb 28th 2015
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                I've seen him live, he's very mediocre.
Feb 28th 2015
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                He's had twice as many albums and still hadnt sold half of what she has
Feb 28th 2015
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                     Kid wins.
Feb 28th 2015
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      so no amount of thankless grind can help him avoid the vulture label eh?
Feb 28th 2015
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           RE: so no amount of thankless grind can help him avoid the vulture label...
Feb 28th 2015
248
           was just out on safari...lol thats the new phrase!
Feb 28th 2015
           was just out on safari...lol thats the new phrase!
Feb 28th 2015
249
           you seem to have remarkable insight on his personal motivations
Mar 01st 2015
256
                RE: you seem to have remarkable insight on his personal motivations
Mar 01st 2015
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                     it seems like there are people in here that know more about him tho
Mar 01st 2015
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                          RE: it seems like there are people in here that know more about him tho
Mar 01st 2015
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           What does his music have to do with his political views?
Feb 28th 2015
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                RE: What does his music have to do with his political views?
Mar 01st 2015
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                     RE: What does his music have to do with his political views?
Mar 01st 2015
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                          RE: What does his music have to do with his political views?
Mar 03rd 2015
292
this post is fucking hilarious...
Feb 28th 2015
223
why did the argument turned towards her physical appearance?
Feb 28th 2015
234
He got an NAACP award tho? I knew they were a joke but damn.
Feb 28th 2015
237
pre hick reveal I'm sure
Feb 28th 2015
250
      That definitely does NOT excuse it.
Mar 01st 2015
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           oh I know
Mar 01st 2015
277
From a man who used Radiohead toilet paper in a video
Feb 28th 2015
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Radiohead needs to be taken down a peg, just like any of us
Mar 01st 2015
264
is Radiohead some sacred cow or something? lol
Mar 01st 2015
271
      The most sacredest non okay artist on here
Mar 01st 2015
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      RE: is Radiohead some sacred cow or something? lol
Mar 01st 2015
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           And yes I celebrate Radiohead's entire catalogue
Mar 01st 2015
278
i ain't never been into Kid Rock to me is a broke Neil Young
Mar 01st 2015
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Who gives a fuck about any of this
Mar 01st 2015
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RE: Who gives a fuck about any of this
Mar 01st 2015
267
imho he shoulda went after Madonna.
Mar 01st 2015
269
oh good grief lol.
Mar 01st 2015
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That part is true as hell tho.
Mar 02nd 2015
291
nigga what???
Mar 01st 2015
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You should edit a "RIGHT TODAY" at the end of the sentence....
Mar 01st 2015
274
yea. smh @ ppl who dedicated their weekend to arguing this shit
Mar 02nd 2015
287
But his kid's mom...nvm.
Mar 01st 2015
268
he's right about the criticism on her music
Mar 01st 2015
279
Kid Rock has always been a redneck, racist bigoted piece of shit.
Mar 02nd 2015
281
Her Voice is an Instrument.
Mar 02nd 2015
282
Add the man who forever changed music... James Brown
Mar 02nd 2015
285
      James played piano and organ
Mar 02nd 2015
286
           RE: put his hands all over the keys in a sloppy way
Mar 02nd 2015
288
                yea, but james changed music
Mar 03rd 2015
293

thegodcam
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1. "nas lost"
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SimplyHannah
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2. "He needs to stfu"
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cause his talent bout questionable.

  

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5. "how many instruments bey play?"
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6. "Don't hurt their Golden Calf like that."
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"Today is your day to have a better life -- it's your right."

  

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SimplyHannah
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7. "how many hits kid rock got?"
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Picture?

And that one other bullshit song.

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8. "SMH... "
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"Today is your day to have a better life -- it's your right."

  

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10. "strike 2"
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why am i not surprised you would miss the easy pitch of how sexist the comment was

  

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17. "dude has 21 total platinum certifications lol"
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34. "white people loyally buy albums."
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which has almost nothing to do with big songs

  

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41. "they do?"
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https://soundcloud.com/matt-koelling-666011203

www.somethinginthewudder.com

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https://www.facebook.com/matt.koelling.96

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46. "disregarding a diamond album talking about big songs seems disingenuous"
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Massive impact is massive impact

And even if white people do loyally buy albums, they are still choosing HIS album

  

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64. "his diamond album came out in 1998, as in before piracy"
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>Massive impact is massive impact

Ja Rule made a massive impact once, he's a walking punchline now

>And even if white people do loyally buy albums, they are still
>choosing HIS album

fan loyalty is no demonstration of musical greatness or timeless material. hell, his career has benefitted from the same argument he's using to shit on Beyonce

  

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86. "ok. how about 10 plat certs post-piracy?"
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Never mind that a lot of other people released albums in 1998 and 1999 that didnt go diamond. Destinys Child for example.

And he wasnt even shitting on her.

He is shitting on people who cant maintain their perspective on her. Like people who he think he was shitting on her. Or people who equate his record-buying fanbase to her "wish death upon heretics" fanbase.

Finally lol @ ja rule. If Ja Rule had a 6 album plat streak going that might be a good comparison.

  

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112. "his last platinum album was in 2010"
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he's comparably on the decline now, talking down on Beyonce the week his new album is out is for attention

  

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117. "im not interested in a rhetorical equivalent of the shell game"
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Where i have to guess where the goalposts are

I was mistaken, his plat streak was broken in 2012. my point stamds regardless

  

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188. "lol i love this comeback"
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Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

Building repetoires (c) spm since 1983

  

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280. "atruhead is always getting cooked."
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81. "I'm gonna need to see many charts and graphs on this gotdamn shit"
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>which has almost nothing to do with big songs

  

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13. "kid rock can freestyle, DJ, and play every instrument in his band"
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28. "And Ive still never heard a good song from Kid Rock except Picture"
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:shrugs:

  

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29. "thus highlighting the difference btwn personal taste and obj eval of tal..."
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Lol

  

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31. "The same can apply to people who are saying Bey has no classics."
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37. "not really"
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His musical skill is objectively displayed during performances. Saying you dont like him is true, saying he has no talent is patently false.

Saying beyonce has no classics cannot be objectively disproven

  

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42. "so what are kid rock's classics?"
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First we need to define the criteria for what a classic actually is. Because if you ask me its subjective.

  

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45. "u not gonna win this argument on a nerd site....ijs"
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now real world.......... u already

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Coolin...

  

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54. "you mean with people who know what words mean and how to use them?"
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Lol

  

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60. "nah....i meant nerds"
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Coolin...

  

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51. "first of all im not even claiming any"
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And neither did he

Second of all, of course its subjective. Thats my point. His talent and popularity are not subjective. Both are very sizable.

  

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59. "And the same with Beyonce's"
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>Second of all, of course its subjective. Thats my point. His
>talent and popularity are not subjective. Both are very
>sizable.

  

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69. "she has a great voice."
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3. "I love how Kid Rock probably give ZERO Flips about the response."
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72. "but why give even ONE Flip about anothers success?"
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82. "jealousy"
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98. "unless he wants to fuck Jay Z.........highly doubtful lol"
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140. "I'm sure he was asked a question. "
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141. "basically..but why RS ask HIM about Beyonce knowing that.... "
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4. "yeah all that Beyhive, Barbie stuff is childish"
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a person can have an opinion, especially if a question is asked of them.



Beyonce Fans Attack Kid Rock Online After Derogatory
>Comments
>
>'Beyhive' descends upon Rock's Instagram after 'First Kiss'
>singer says superstar "doesn't really fucking do much for me"
>in Rolling Stone profile
>
>Kid Rock has incurred the wrath of Beyoncé fans following
>comments he made about the pop star during his Rolling Stone
>interview.
>
>In the latest issue of Rolling Stone, the singer detailed why
>he's "flabbergasted" by the intense Beyoncé fandom.
>"Beyoncé, to me, doesn't have a fucking 'Purple Rain,' but
>she's the biggest thing on Earth," he said. "How can you be
>that big without at least one 'Sweet Home Alabama' or 'Old
>Time Rock & Roll'?"
>
>His criticism quickly turned to not understanding the physical
>attraction to the singer. "People are like, 'Beyoncé's hot.
>Got a nice fucking ass.' I'm like 'Cool, I like skinny white
>chicks with big tits.' Doesn't really fucking do much for
>me."
>
>Fans of the "Drunk in Love" singer, known as the 'Beyhive,'
>have taken to social media to vent their frustrations with
>Rock and anger towards his criticisms. All of his recent
>Instagram pictures have been flooded with thousands of
>comments from super-fans with icons and usernames referencing
>Beyoncé.
>
>While some of the comments are just a marker of presence —
>users simply posting the bee emoji or "#Beyhive" — others
>have turned personal and violent. "I HOPE KID ROCK MOM GETS
>GANG RAPED AND CATCHES AIDS AND DIES," reads one such note on
>a picture of Rock at the Today show.
>
>"You ain't shit even to this day," says another. "Who are you?
>And why are you 70 still being called a kid?"
>
>Rock recently released his 10th studio album, First Kiss. As
>noted in the profile, Rock received a controversial NAACP
>award in 2011. The Detroit chapter honored him with the Great
>Expectations award while many members protested the singer for
>his heavy use of Confederate flag imagery.
>
>http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/beyonce-fans-attack-kid-rock-online-after-derogatory-comments-20150227
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30. "Sure they can have an opinion, and can be criticized for it."
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Thats life.

  

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245. "I don't disagree"
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I don't side with the masses just because they are bigger. Some may, I dont.

  

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9. "Not a fan of Bey...."
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Never have been so I can't say that he's wrong. Probably dumb for expressing it THAT passionately but he is entitled to hate on shit too. We do it ALL the time here!





















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11. "RE: No Kid Rock v.....my fault. Kid Rock vs. Beyonce"
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He's right... was a little crass about it..

But Beyonce doesnt have a classic album or have a truly timeless song..

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12. "She ain't got not one single classic song. "
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15. "You see my Twitter today? Not too many folks wanted to debate it"
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but those that did were mainly saying Single ladies. I admit, I never realized it sold that damn much and was #1 for that long, BUT......that still don't mean classic to me. And people on her side ALLLL say the same shit..."it's unfair to compare it to a song from the 70's, you gotta judge it in 20-30 years" and the fact that the numbers "back up their claim" makes it harder to debate.

But nah, I really don't think she has a standout. I even said "Uptown funk" and "Happy" are much bigger than anything she's ever made.

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23. "Nah, Single Ladies is played at almost every wedding during the bouquet...."
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toss.

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35. "RE: You see my Twitter today? Not too many folks wanted to debate it"
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I caught a piece of the twitter convo...

I definitely think the argument can be made for Single Ladies. In fact I'll concede she has 1...

also

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_singles_in_the_United_States

When it comes to single sales she still is in direct competition with Katy, Rihanna, Gaga.. so its not like Single Ladies has some runaway single sales either..

Not like the fucking Black Eyed Peas.. jeez..

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151. "wow. that list suggests beyonce' music is actually not pop enough"
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folk talkin about her not having classic/timeless songs
which i would mostly agree with, career-wise




but 85% of that list of what is moving units is not classic/timeless AT ALL

beyonce would actually need to try being LESS soulful and more mindlessly catchy, if she wanted that # 1 sales slot


i would guess her still making the top 10 selling artists overall, comes from totaling up more individual songs than any of the other artists listed


that list is also another reminder how many fitewolks are in america
300M total and like 70% white = 210 million ppl. thats a lotta mofoes, whether they R buying albums, making dane cook a star, or anything else

posted up in the northeast u forget that sometimes



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157. "RE: wow. that list suggests beyonce' music is actually not pop enough"
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Yea there are some songs that definitely wouldn't be considered timeless higher up on that list than Single ladies...

I dont think it's a soul or repetition thing. I mean Crazy In Love and Single Ladies arent exactly "soulful' and are pretty repetitive as opposed to like a Someone Like You or Somebody that I used to know..

What is also crazy about this list is the damn legacy of Motown (LMFAO) came in real quick and SMASHED the game..

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65. "'Single Ladies' is it."
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play it today at a wedding and watch what happens.

fuck you.

  

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95. "that's the one...that song will live on like them Bon Jovi hits"
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that get a reaction no matter where, when or how they get played

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16. "I was thinking the same thing"
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21. "you're tripping. She has more album cuts than a few"
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>He's right... was a little crass about it..
>
>But Beyonce doesnt have a classic album or have a truly
>timeless song..


B Day alone has 5, arguably 6 songs that continue to define her career and that album came out 8+ years ago

but yeah she has tons of non singles from her first album to today that her fans live and die for

if your bar for timeless is Thriller, Purple Rain or Stevie Wonder you're being unreasonable

because anyone who isn't a D'Angelo fan could argue Voodoo isn't timeless so it's all subjective

  

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43. "RE: you're tripping. She has more album cuts than a few"
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I think the argument is..

Simply.. Beyonce is one of the biggest artists in the world. Across the board.. age.. gender country etc..

But if you compare her to the canon of people who got THAT big. There isn't a defining album

I don't think anything outside of Single Ladies can really be placed in the pantheon..



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"I doubt anyone can name Elvis Presley's big album"


  

          

but I know how big he was

she means everything to her audience: blackish women age 18-38 and a great number of gay dudes

she shut down everything dropping an album out of thin air with songs her fans will be singing forever, I dont get the determination to discredit her

(not you but) I think some people really hate the idea of a powerful black woman

  

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68. "RE: I doubt anyone can name Elvis Presley's big album"
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Beyonce is an ICON..

no one should argue that.. Not even Mike Huckabee can.

But the artist in me wants her to commit herself to a great piece of work. Like really dig deep and see what comes out..

I don't think she could before because her upbringing was so focused on a success goal not an artistic one..

but now..

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77. "I dont think she's looking to change the world with her music."
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she's an entertainer who makes songs about love and performs her ass off

  

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80. "RE: I dont think she's looking to change the world with her music."
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I mean great for her.. not some Bill & Ted's excellent adventure save the world music shit..

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195. "same could be said for Jay ..."
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... I feel if he dug deep and really made the album he wanted to artistically, it would be his magnum opus. Even at his current age. But one could argue that he has classic albums, Beyonce not so much.

  

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97. "Elvis' classic period was before coherent albums were important."
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People can rattle off a dozen Elvis classic songs, though.

  

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14. "the rabid fanaticism is hilarious, fascinating and....disturbing"
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if you like skinny white chicks with big tits
then you already know why you dont like her look
i'm sure they asked other questions
but he's so irrelevant the only responses that seem to have gotten traction are his comments about her

never did fk with kid rock, tho
white jason in high school LOVED him some kid rock (the rapper)

i will say that picture is my shit, word to sheryl crow

  

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19. "so irrelevant that RS did a longform interview with him? lol"
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44. "RE: ehh he is, no?"
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i mean are folk really checking for him like that in 2015?

his full blown rock and roll right wing swing odd too

and that i like skinny blonds with big tits was corny

  

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58. "maybe to our demographic. but thats not representative of everyone"
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If this new album of his doeant go platinum it will be the first time thats happened since 1998

People arent irrelevant just bc they arent relevant to us

  

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75. "that's true. I did't even know he got that big"
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with his new demo

  

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135. "irrelevant??? HOOOOOOOOOOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO!!!"
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You're talking about a cat that TOURED WITH ICE CUBE for his first album back in '90, at a time when Cube was still "The nigga you love to hate". Duke had a break dancin crew, DJ'ed, did Graf (IIRC), AND could rhyme. Kid Rock is more hip hop than 99.9999999996% of the cats rappin on the radio right now.

He's still sellin albums at a time when artists still buy their own records on the sly just to inflate their own sales.

He has die hard fanbases for both types of music he's done and somehow you think he's irrelevant???

That just shows more about how much you don't know about Kid Rock than anything.

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152. "yoooo yall funny"
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didnt know there was so much investment in him as an artist
i knoow alllll about him, trust that poppageorge...since 1990
and i dont fk with him which is MY RIGHT & i see it offended you
bboy crew, cube cosign, up on all elements of hip hop, white boy gelled up flat top....I DONT GIVE A FUCK...i'm not feeling him & never have

i used the word irrelevant because he had this LONG INTERVIEW
and his views on this woman that he doesn't even fk with as an artist or a sex object are what ppl clung to
that.is.funny.to.me.



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162. "you have to see how this proves him right, dont you?"
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>i used the word irrelevant because he had this LONG INTERVIEW
>and his views on this woman that he doesn't even fk with as an
>artist or a sex object are what ppl clung to
>that.is.funny.to.me.

  

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181. "irrevelant is a matter of opinion is it not? "
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i have no problem with anyone seeing him as relevant
shit, i dont even have a problem with what he said about her



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182. "i meant proving KRs original statement correct. and yes, to a point."
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Relevant to you and relevant in the larger sense of the word are two diffetent things.

The former is entirely subjective, but the latter has datapoints to objectively show that he is in fact relevant to the world at large.

  

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18. "AT LEAST BEY STUCK WITH HER ORIGINAL GENRE"
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We haven't forgotten about your hip-hop past Kid. Yes, he's talented but his genre switch disqualifies his opinion. KR has hits for days but why he's shitting on Bey again? Go at a male like Eminem or Jay but leave his wife alone because that's asexual shit.

  

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20. "^^^Keeping It Ridiculous Always"
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22. "saying that she doesnt have a Purple Rain is shitting on her?"
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78. "Why is he picking on Beyonce?"
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Pick on someone in your own gender. Women are easy targets to some people but this is overboard and he's pandering to his target audience.

  

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88. "lol"
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48. "KR has hits for days? lol "
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>We haven't forgotten about your hip-hop past Kid. Yes, he's
>talented but his genre switch disqualifies his opinion. KR has
>hits for days but why he's shitting on Bey again? Go at a male
>like Eminem or Jay but leave his wife alone because that's
>asexual shit.

  

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56. "OMG... LOL"
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212. "nah, Bey switched up too... "
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she didn't change genres but she went gutter.

15 years ago no one would have ever thought Beyonce would curse or say nigga.

  

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24. "kid rock has had a weird transition"
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this the same dude who used to hang in the projects
and make underground rap records
and talk abt how much he love blk ppl...blk women in particular

now his music has the same content as toby keith's

odd

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32. "Makes sense if you consider he's always been a poser. "
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He is neither eminem or tobey keith, he is gets in where he fits in.

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40. "thats doubtful. he still gets love from Detroit rappers."
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And the grind he was on in his early days would have worn a poser down to nothing

  

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154. "he grew up on old rock but loved hip hop"
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and dude got down and did his around Tha D. You don't grind as hard as he did if you're a poseur. Dude's legit, but I think he got to a point where his side project (Twisted Brown trucker) got him noticed more and he just went with it.


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191. "u dont know what youre talking about"
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and thats ok

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25. "The Bey STANS are like the boy that cried....."
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wolf....They look delusional and certified wack jobs when they attack people for giving constructive criticism or point out that their girl can be on some bully, diva shit (that Grammy fiasco)....

But if it wasn't for their past doing-too-much behavior, I would ride with them on this Kid Rock shit....

Forget what he said about B not having a Purple Rain (that's more than true....)....Dude didn't have to come out of his face on some white chicks >>>>>>> black chicks shit...Especially when you got a black baby mama and u came out on some hip-hop shit...

He's been hanging out with Ted Nugent way too long...He needs to chill on that tip considering he came in on the backs of black folk....

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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61. "the Black baby moms is what's killing me"
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motherfucker used to have a flat top and freestyle outside the chin tiki, and now he's a nra redneck team nugent tea party republican?

i know it's a money move, but come on

i useta think he was trolling like glen beck but now iono

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105. "What he said about Beysus is probably the least questionable thing "
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in that article.

Folks are more upset about that than him shooting a pig point blank in the face with a gun and videotaping it for lulz. Madder than him calling Obama "Obummer". Madder than having all these crazy, right wing sensibilities.

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26. "i'm not big Bey fan but she has classics whether you like or not"
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Classic Singles:
Get Me Bodied
Crazy in Love
Single Ladies
Flawless


I would say Beyonce is her classic album too. Kid Rock needs to shut up and go on somewhere else.

  

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33. "Crazy In Love & Single Ladies, yes. The other two, nah."
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>Classic Singles:
>Get Me Bodied
>Crazy in Love
>Single Ladies
>Flawless
>
>
>I would say Beyonce is her classic album too. Kid Rock needs
>to shut up and go on somewhere else.

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63. "Them joint ain't classics... lol"
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187. "I don't even know what Get Me Bodied and Flawless are"
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I bet most of the music listening public don't know either. It's a stretch to say that most know what Crazy in Love is.
They may be "urban" classics (I was going to say R&B, but I don't think it it fits the category. Sounds more like pop)

I think a lot of people severely over-estimate how widespread Yonce's reach is.

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27. "http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/kid-rock-puts-his-obama-hating-right-..."
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http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/kid-rock-puts-his-obama-hating-right-wing-jackassery-on-full-display-ahead-of-new-album/

In a wide-ranging interview with Rolling Stone, timed before the release of his new album, singer-musician Kid Rock talked about buying guns before “Obummer” banned them, pop diva Beyoncé, and called 2012 Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney “the most decent motherf*cker I’ve ever met in my life.”

Rock, whose real name is Bob Ritchie, invited Rolling Stone writer Patrick Doyle out to his 500-acre Alabama estate — situated right near a property owned by Hank Williams Jr. — where he discussed his career and his ‘Red State’ values.

Prior to traversing the property where Rock had trapped three wild pigs he intended to shoot (“We’re about to do some murderous shit”), he showed off his gun collection, including a .22 rifle, two custom .45 pistols with ivory handles displayed in a case reading “American Badass Set,” and a semiautomatic with a silencer. According to Rock, the semiautomatic is similar to the ones the Secret Service carries and he purchased it using a loophole after President Obama came into office.
You have to get these pre-1985 with a silencer. I bought it when Obummer came into office, because I’m thinking, ‘What if he f*ckin’ bans guns?’ ,” he explained.

Showing the writer the three wild pigs he had trapped in a pen — explaining that they are not native to the area and over-reproduce — Rock and his girlfriend Audrey proceeded to shoot the penned animals, with Rock exclaiming, “His ass is done,” after shooting one.

Turning to the music scene, Rock related how his father, – a owned a Lincoln-Mercury dealership in his native Michigan — didn’t approve of his son’s career choice, asking him, “‘Why would you want to be a n****r?”

Rock admitted that has last album, Rebel Soul, was a flop, and seemed bewildered by the popularity of Beyoncé.

“Beyoncé, to me, doesn’t have a f*cking ‘Purple Rain,’ but she’s the biggest thing on Earth. How can you be that big without at least one ‘Sweet Home Alabama’ or ‘Old Time Rock & Roll’?” he said. “People are like, ‘Beyoncé’s hot. Got a nice f*cking ass.’ I’m like, ‘Cool, I like skinny white chicks with big tits.’ Doesn’t really f*cking do much for me.”

The rocker, who is now 43 with a son in college, admits that he has settled down from his hard partying days when he admits, “I’d be driving the field trip Monday after I banged, like, four hookers. Well, not hookers, but, you know, four nice girls on Saturday night in Cincinnati.”

Now he hobnobs with conservative politicians; describing Mitt Romney as “the most decent motherf*cker I’ve ever met in my life,” and texting with former Alaska governor Sarah Palin.

Rock even admitted he has a membership at golfer Jack Nicklaus’ private Bear’s Club, near Palm Beach, Florida, saying, “If you told me five years ago I’d have to take my hat off and tuck my shirt in, I’d have slapped the taste out of your mouth. Now I’m like, ‘Look at me, hair slicked back, shirt tucked in.’ I’m like, ‘What a fag!’”

Rock intends to go out on the road promoting his new album, First Kiss, saying he plans to keep ticket prices down — blaming Ticketmaster and calling them “F*ckin’ whores” — and saying he is fully aware who his audience is these days.

“45-50-year-old girls wearing extra-large T-shirts — they’re my bread and butter,” He said. ” They know how to f*cking party — ‘I don’t give a f*ck, I’m making a T-shirt and putting sequins on it. I’m saving my money for beer and having a good time.’”


  

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38. "called 2012 Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney “the most dece..."
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71. "so?"
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i didn't really like romney either until i watched the documentary mitt (it's probably still on netflix). decent is exactly the word that i would describe romney as. there are a lot more low down and loathsome politicians. agree with his politics or not, he seems genuinely nice even if you're not from michigan or a celebrity.

  

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137. "so that says a lot"
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>i didn't really like romney either until i watched the
>documentary mitt (it's probably still on netflix). decent is
>exactly the word that i would describe romney as. there are a
>lot more low down and loathsome politicians. agree with his
>politics or not, he seems genuinely nice even if you're not
>from michigan or a celebrity.

  

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47. "RE: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/kid-rock-puts-his-obama-hating-ri..."
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Focused posting^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^....Yep....

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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62. "lol naw chief-- you meant hookers."
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Everything looks like Oprah kissing Harvey Weinstein these days

  

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74. "lol yup"
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89. "he knows that you know that"
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121. "^^^^exactly why the iggy's & youtube cover bands get called out"
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and deservedly so, for the most part


foh at a "black phase"



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36. "She seems to have a very distinct audience"
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he voiced his opinion in a coarse (nobody cares what type of women you like) manner, but yeah I couldn't tell you many Bey hits and it's just his opinion. At least he didn't go full John Mayer with it. Let the man treat his STD's and keep trying to save the war zone formerly known as Detroit.

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66. "It was shade"
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And he's getting the response from her fans that he deserves.

  

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39. "Nobody in the Beyhive has a good job AND relationship"
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49. "Beyhive fanatics > Men with no facial hair "
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50. "Beyhive fanatics = women with facial hair "
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55. "Men with no facial hair = women"
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67. "Women + facial hair - men = Beyhive"
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180. "^^^^^^ Ratchet Math Problem Sheet"
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------------------
One Hundred.

  

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221. "LOL!"
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There's a "two trains leave" analogue in there somewhere

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184. "Ultra combo (C) Killer Instinct "
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

<----

Soundcloud.com/aquil84

(HIP HOP)
http://aquil.bandcamp.com

  

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206. "oh my! - killer mike "
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211. "she doesn't have a Sweet Home Alabama... lol"
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KR is on that Palin...

Fuck the past, he knows who his target audience is now and he is giving them what they want.

  

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283. "lmao"
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http://instagram.com/hoodlogic

  

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284. "LMAO!"
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Dope.

  

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76. "lol"
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57. "ROTFL"
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.
.
.
"Today is your day to have a better life -- it's your right."

  

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70. "That bible keeping you warm at night or nah?"
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125. "HA! Don't be mad."
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.
.
.
"Today is your day to have a better life -- it's your right."

  

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52. "this is mind-numbingly stupid."
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but that's the Beyhive for you.

mind-numbingly stupid and way too turnt up.

fuck you.

  

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53. "."
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.

fuck you.

  

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73. "Lol this won't hurt him"
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whoever was gonna buy his album or go to his shows are still do both. its not like hes a new artist on the come up.




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79. "so basically, Kid Rock is not allowed to have opinions & preferences."
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83. "not on a Friday"
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>

  

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84. "Yea he is, and people are allowed to have their opinions about them."
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Freedom of speech. Aint that what they love to yell about?

  

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85. "but you said he need to "stfu.""
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so.......

  

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87. "he does"
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91. "why?"
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i thought we just discussed freedom of speech, his right to his opinions.

are y'all being obtuse on purpose?

  

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94. "he's a cracka, thats why lol"
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>i thought we just discussed freedom of speech, his right to
>his opinions.
>
>are y'all being obtuse on purpose?

  

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93. "and that's my opinion."
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It's dumb when that people that criticize feel that they should be exempt from criticism themselves. Not to say that he feels that way, but to the folks caping for him.

  

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99. "i cape for truth, not for either of these bozos"
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101. "if he shut up, as you suggest, then you'd be prohibiting..."
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his free speech.

let that man not think Bey has a "Purple Rain" (she don't) and let him smash his porno chicks.

this ain't even newsworthy, and it's definitely not outrage-worthy.

  

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90. "he is not allowed to express a negative opinion about Yonce."
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NO ONE is allowed to express a negative opinion about Yonce.

fuck you.

  

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96. "ive always wondered "Yahntz" or "Yahntzay""
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158. "the latter"
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fuck you.

  

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104. "I'm no huge Beyonce fan either"
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and he's allowed his opinions in regards to her music, but the stuff regarding her shape and figure was pretty sexist.

  

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186. "How?"
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>and he's allowed his opinions in regards to her music, but
>the stuff regarding her shape and figure was pretty sexist.

Is it also sexist when a woman says she likes tall men?

  

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226. "RE: How?"
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>>and he's allowed his opinions in regards to her music, but
>>the stuff regarding her shape and figure was pretty sexist.
>
>Is it also sexist when a woman says she likes tall men?


What does her figure have to do with the merit of her musical ability?

  

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263. "I haven't read the full article"
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>>>and he's allowed his opinions in regards to her music, but
>>>the stuff regarding her shape and figure was pretty sexist.
>>
>>Is it also sexist when a woman says she likes tall men?
>
>
>What does her figure have to do with the merit of her musical
>ability?

And thus demonstrates the danger of taking short quotes out of context.

  

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92. "he didn't lie tho."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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103. "^^he really didn't tho - I was just saying to someone that although"
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Beyonce's album moved units and was in heavy rotation for the last year and a half, it wasn't a *great* album imo

And I didn't think it was worthy of being the Grammy's "album of the year"


And to Kid Rock's point, for someone who's as big a star as Beyoncé is, there's no great album in her discography

grassrootsphilosopher

  

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100. "they're wasting their time...he gives zero fucks"
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he's probably laughing at all this shit and loving the publicity.

he also wasn't all that wrong...it's just his opinion.

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102. "RE: they're wasting their time...he gives zero fucks"
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90 % of folks probably agree with him too lol

>he's probably laughing at all this shit and loving the
>publicity.
>
>he also wasn't all that wrong...it's just his opinion.

  

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200. "RE: they're wasting their time...he gives zero fucks"
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very true

  

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106. "When Yeezus does it he's an asshole but Kid Rock skirts....."
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.... 'CISM

Anyone co-signing Kid Rock has forever lost the ground to demean Sir Yeezus from Chicago.

At least Yeezus did it to make a point. Kid Rock is just pandering to his demo.

  

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113. "That's apples and oranges, fam"
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>.... 'CISM
>
>Anyone co-signing Kid Rock has forever lost the ground to
>demean Sir Yeezus from Chicago.
>
>At least Yeezus did it to make a point. Kid Rock is just
>pandering to his demo.

grassrootsphilosopher

  

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116. "In most respects yes, but the fact remains KR is picking on Beyonce."
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When Yeezus picks on insert blonde white female he's an asshole but KR picks on a Superstar and media lets him get away with it.

  

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136. "he actually didn't pick on her at all..."
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but sure, it's exactly like saying someone's so dirty you need 30 showers to move on from them.

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156. "cmon...when speakin on another artists theyre typically respectful"
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>but sure, it's exactly like saying someone's so dirty you
>need 30 showers to move on from them.

  

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161. "So being brutally honest is now synonymous w/disrespect?"
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>>but sure, it's exactly like saying someone's so dirty you
>>need 30 showers to move on from them.
>

grassrootsphilosopher

  

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166. "this wasnt any of that..it was something different/bait"
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>
>
>>>but sure, it's exactly like saying someone's so dirty you
>>>need 30 showers to move on from them.
>>
>

  

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204. "Yes it can be."
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But you knew that.

  

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107. "I suspect many Beyhive types know deep down that her output lacks that "
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oomph. And it bothers them, which is why they react this way. I don't remember any of this kind of talk during Mariah's heyday.

  

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108. "any chance okp (mostly men these days anyhow) has a chance to shit on a"
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black woman, they will.

i really think a lot of men on this site dislike black women.

  

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109. "plays Ice Cube higher learning bitch black queen scene"
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>black woman, they will.
>
>i really think a lot of men on this site dislike black women.

  

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110. "People are just anti Beyonce in general "
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Especially on here so im not surprised with the Kid Rock caping.

  

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111. "Lol"
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There's a mismatch between her larger than life status and the level of her output.

There was no such mismatch with Whitney, or Mariah. And in the case of Janet and TLC, it was the other way around - the quality of the songs far surpassed their talent.

Beyonce has maybe 3 songs that I'd ever want to play on a guitar or piano, whereas those other artists each has at least 6 otlr 7 (maybe not TLC.)

  

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119. "I say this in every 'yonce post. "
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She doesn't have the hits to justify her stature. Rihanna, Katy Perry and Gaga all have way more umber 1's, but Beyonce's status is as close as it gets to Michael/Madonna levels.

  

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124. "Yup. In fact, I'd gladly take Rihanna's run since"
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2009 over Beyonces. No question.

  

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192. "The good old days, when the music industry was a meritocracy"
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Come on, this shit isn't brand new, and neither is the criticism of it.

Besides, it's not like Kid Rock went out of his way to mention some female artists he thought were more deserving of the accolades.

Or maybe he did, I don't give enough of a fuck about Kid Rock to read about his opinions.

"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard

  

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114. "oh jesus christ"
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126. "Facepalm! "
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115. "Beyonce has hits. Been had hits since Destiny's Child"
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So Kid Rock is wrong saying she isn't living up to "sweet home alabama" and "old time rock N roll" standards.

I won't name the Destiny's Child hits because nit-pickers will say those hits shouldn't qualify now (yeah......eh...)


But

Upgrade
Crazy in love
Irreplaceable
check on it
Deja Vu

were hits


along with songs I wish weren't hits like:

single ladies
drunk in love
get me bodied


plus Beyonce got album cuts that I'm sure her band can please an audience with (in between the hits)

video phone
freakum dress
me myself and I
partition
ring the alarm (heh heh....just seeing if you're awake...nah, it growed on me)

  

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Teknontheou
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118. "MM&I, Irreplaceable and Single Ladies are her only "
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true play-this-for-the-aliens level "masterworks".

That's what Kid Rock is talking about and he's right.

Funny thing is alot of the big DC hits are superior to most of her solo hits.

  

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120. "nope, I luv upgrade, crazy in love, deja vu and check on it plus the DC..."
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that's quite a lot

  

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127. "A hit and a classic are two different things. "
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133. "to my ears "sweet home alabama" and "old time rock N roll" are weak"
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classics (those were Kid Rock's mentioned "standards for deserving fame")


So Beyonce hits make her deserve fame.


Maybe if Kid Rock said: "Beyonce needs music and good as the Beatles to be considered "classic".....but "sweet home alabama" and "old time rock N roll"? B matches those with her hits

  

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183. "what makes them weak?"
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i hate that the standard measure of the timelessness of a song is the record sales or chart position, so i won't resort to those, but those songs are ubiquitous and obviously very well loved. they are both overplayed *to me,* and "old time rock & roll" grates on *my* ears, but they are very much classics that have stood the test of time. we will see if beyonce has songs like that, that will be perennial favorites in popular culture for decades. based on the longevity of her music so far, there don't seem to be many candidates in her catalog that will be that universal and long lasting. that was what i got out of that statement.

  

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185. "the reason why I said "to my ears" is that both songs seem to"
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just appeal to a narrow demographic. The songs don't have the "sophistication" to "spread out" to a more broad audience.

"Strong" to me is when a song can go "far" beyond a set limit.


ex: the song "A hard day's night" is a "weak" Beatles classic to me because that song just seems to me to be able to just reach die hard Beatles fans.


"Strawberry Fields forever" is a "strong" Beatles classic to me because it has the ability to reach a broader audience due to the "more sophisticated" artistic qualities of that song.

  

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189. "RE: the reason why I said "to my ears" is that both songs seem to"
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>just appeal to a narrow demographic. The songs don't have the
>"sophistication" to "spread out" to a more broad audience.

i think this is a pretty romantic view. the two songs in question get played whether we want to hear them or not. they are played at the grocery store and on tv commercials. the demographic spreads because enough people genuinely think they are good pieces of music/catchy songs and keep playing them and to more and more people. people outside of the usual demographic of those bands hear the songs and find the appeal, even if it's not on the first listen. to me those songs are classics because they never really went away and still get played now when the music of the day is a lot more like beyonce's music. will the same be said of beyonce's music in the future when the dominant style of music may sound very different from now? we start to answer that question by listing how many of beyonce's songs never went out of style and have continued to be played by a wide audience, not just personal favorites or songs we as music fans find of particularly high artistic merit.


>ex: the song "A hard day's night" is a "weak" Beatles classic
>to me because that song just seems to me to be able to just
>reach die hard Beatles fans.
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>"Strawberry Fields forever" is a "strong" Beatles classic to
>me because it has the ability to reach a broader audience due
>to the "more sophisticated" artistic qualities of that song.

i would counter that by saying i disagree with your assessment that it reaches only a smaller faction of fans of the beatles specifically and that "hard day's night" does more in some ways than "strawberry fields forever" because it actually is more accessible and conventional and attached to the still very popular, beloved movie. it doesn't matter to me that SFF is the finer song or that the beatles have literally dozens of amazing pieces of music that can still be enjoyed and dissected 50 years later. i can look at it objectively and say both songs are classics and in some ways "hard day's night" has the edge even though it wouldn't be my choice except as the catchier song. i think there is a tendency among beatles fans to downplay how popular and immediate those early hits were and continue to be.

  

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193. "RE: the reason why I said "to my ears" is that both songs seem to"
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>>just appeal to a narrow demographic. The songs don't have
>the
>>"sophistication" to "spread out" to a more broad audience.
>
>i think this is a pretty romantic view. the two songs in
>question get played whether we want to hear them or not. they
>are played at the grocery store and on tv commercials. the
>demographic spreads because enough people genuinely think they
>are good pieces of music/catchy songs and keep playing them
>and to more and more people.


As a black person, I don't think "alabama" and "old time R&R" reach far beyond the "white" demographic. Yeah, those songs get played a lot in public because lot's of public places are geared towards white people.

I'm not saying appealing to white people is bad, but it seems narrow to me in many cases. There's enough white music that can and does appeal to various races that makes those widely appealing classics "stronger" to me than "alabama" and "old time R&R".




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>>ex: the song "A hard day's night" is a "weak" Beatles
>classic
>>to me because that song just seems to me to be able to just
>>reach die hard Beatles fans.
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>>"Strawberry Fields forever" is a "strong" Beatles classic to
>>me because it has the ability to reach a broader audience
>due
>>to the "more sophisticated" artistic qualities of that song.
>
>i would counter that by saying i disagree with your assessment
>that it reaches only a smaller faction of fans of the beatles
>specifically and that "hard day's night" does more in some
>ways than "strawberry fields forever" because it actually is
>more accessible and conventional and attached to the still
>very popular, beloved movie.


I knew this would be murkier because there is the argument that "simple" is "accessible" but to me there is stages where simplicity seems limited then more sophistication seems "impressive" then there seems to be a stage where the sophistication "blands out" and "works against" the artist.

I know the Beatles early hits have something (some definitely more than others) but by "Strawberry Fields" the sophistication was at a point of strength (far from "blanding out").

To me, I'll always give an artist the "edge" when the sophistication is strong (that seemingly usual middle stage). It's a fascinating topic but I'm sure it is recognizable in a lot of artists.

  

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122. "had no idea somr OKPs rode this hard for Kid Rock Lmao"
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130. "I think you're looking at that horse backwards. "
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People ain't riding for Kid Rock as much as they are pointing out the lack of real range and talent for Beyoncé.

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131. "and to end Black History Month like this smh"
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123. "didn't know there was an OKP beyhive"
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real question is why doesn't Yonce tell them to settle down, every now and then

shit is weird

  

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129. "$$$"
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128. "Kanye on Swift- Ppl say 'Taylors hot, got a nice rack'. Cool i like bigb..."
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armenians. Doesn't really fucking do much for me."


yall think that would fly?



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132. "Snoop on Azelia- Ppl say 'Iggy's hot, got a nice ass'. Cool i like black"
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chicks with big tits.' Doesn't really fucking do much for me."



how bout that version?



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159. "why is that a problem? ppl say some variant of that here all the time"
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163. "wasnt a rhetorical question. im not sure either way. "
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snoop on IA, i could prolly see it
snoop/kanye mentioning taylor swift or katy perry's tits, yea i think
some mag writers and/or fellow artists would have something to say




what random ppl say on msg boards doesnt apply



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167. "i may have misunderstood"
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Are you talking about ethics of the statement or professional consequences?

  

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178. "either/both"
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tho i doubt anyone has any ethical standards they hold KR to




which is how nugent gets away with all his nonsense



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179. "well ted is in the wrong most of the time. KR, no. not here at least."
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I guess thats what i meant. i dont think he is in the wrong for anything he says here and i dont think your examples would be either.

The fallout tho could be different for each. Kid Rock isnt a social media trend in and of himself the way those others are

  

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134. "sooo.......basically he's saying about her"
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what Black people been saying about White superstar artists forever?

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138. "BEY-SICALLY"
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139. "Because it's Friday and we gotta talk about something to kill time"
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That's the only reason I can see to explain why this bulls hit has so many posts.

  

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142. "#83 lol"
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>That's the only reason I can see to explain why this bulls
>hit has so many posts.

  

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143. "plus the op is ''vs'',,,,,,,,its a get in the ring post on Friday lol"
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144. "As far as I can remember Beyonce posts ALWAYS do numbers"
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yes

  

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147. "= she's good"
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>yes

  

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153. "Beyonce has hits. Her posts ALWAYS doing numbers aren't necessarily"
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the reason.


But there has to be some reason.


Probably just 'cause she is a star who withstood Rih Rih's rise and is still drawing attention.

  

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"Jazz Sullivan post went styrofoam"


  

          

>the reason.
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>But there has to be some reason.
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>Probably just 'cause she is a star who withstood Rih Rih's
>rise and is still drawing attention.

  

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155. "Jazz Sullivan post went styrofoam"
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>the reason.
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>But there has to be some reason.
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>Probably just 'cause she is a star who withstood Rih Rih's
>rise and is still drawing attention.

  

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145. "Don't you drop dat alchahol.."
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146. "SimplyHannah is part of BeyHive?"
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149. "no, she'll just be damned of she let trashy KR talk shit"
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160. "when you say "let"..."
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165. "you know wtf I mean"
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168. "tbh i rarely know wtf you mean"
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170. "yet here u are jumpin in to respond to me lol"
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171. "RE: yet here i am seeking clarification. fixed that for you."
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174. "go to dinner, cog"
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175. "burger or burrito?"
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176. "its Friday...burger"
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177. "shit you just reminded me. Catholic school fish fry here i come!"
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164. "no I just dont have time for shade from this trashy bastard"
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In regards to one of the most influential artists of this generation. It's in poor taste and he needs to stfu.

  

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169. "holy shit lol"
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173. "YOU JUST GOT STUNG BY THE BEYHIVE"
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251. "BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ"
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290. "LMAO"
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Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

  

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148. "RE: No Kid Rock v.....my fault. Kid Rock vs. Beyonce"
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The whole article does seem a bit like HEAVY pandering

Hangin' with Hank Williams Jr. - Check
Sara Palin mention - Check
Guns - Check
Double-Wide fucking TRAILER!!! - Check
Supporting the troops - Check
Walmart - Check

Roger Ailes coulda wrote this shit..

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150. "#141"
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>The whole article does seem a bit like HEAVY pandering
>
>Hangin' with Hank Williams Jr. - Check
>Sara Palin mention - Check
>Guns - Check
>Double-Wide fucking TRAILER!!! - Check
>Supporting the troops - Check
>Walmart - Check
>
>Roger Ailes coulda wrote this shit..
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197. "RE: No Kid Rock v.....my fault. Kid Rock vs. Beyonce"
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>The whole article does seem a bit like HEAVY pandering
>
>Hangin' with Hank Williams Jr. - Check
>Sara Palin mention - Check
>Guns - Check
>Double-Wide fucking TRAILER!!! - Check
>Supporting the troops - Check
>Walmart - Check
>
>Roger Ailes coulda wrote this shit..



^^^^^sees the ENTIRE GAME......

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172. "he really thought he was stuntin w/ that ''skinny yt chicks w/ big tits'..."
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190. "So Rolling Stone posts an interview with the comments, and then"
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posts a story about the social media reaction to an interview most people wouldn't have given two squirts of piss about anyway. Go ahead and list all of Kid Rock's musical talents, bet you didn't give a fuck about that interview until this post.

We're all winners here. This was stupider than the dress thing. At least that was tangentially connected to some interesting science.

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194. "I'm sayin'. can't we equally dislike all involved here?"
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>We're all winners here. This was stupider than the dress
>thing. At least that was tangentially connected to some
>interesting science.

fuck that "vs." shit, I don't ride with either side
I'm ambivalent to them both

  

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196. "Kid Rock is a genius....."
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He got ya'll niggas arguing about Beyonce's hits when the real issue is the way he used black culture like it was dental floss...lol

That full RS interview coupled with his bio comes off like a CLOUD full of side-eye inducing code words....

Former hip-hop MC + Obummer + Romney is swell + Hank Williams Jr. + down with Palin + his old man letting out that N WORD + I got a black baby mama and publicly dated Midori, but on my blond broads > black chicks = VERY suspect...

Dan, RD and a few others are the only folks that seems to get IT....But I'm going to let y'all ROCK (see what I did there?)

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199. "I haven't forgot at all"
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>He got ya'll niggas arguing about Beyonce's hits when the
>real issue is the way he used black culture like it was dental
>floss...lol
>
>That full RS interview coupled with his bio comes off like a
>CLOUD full of side-eye inducing code words....
>
>Former hip-hop MC + Obummer + Romney is swell + Hank Williams
>Jr. + down with Palin + his old man letting out that N WORD +
>I got a black baby mama and publicly dated Midori, but on my
>blond broads > black chicks = VERY suspect...
>
>Dan, RD and a few others are the only folks that seems to get
>IT....But I'm going to let y'all ROCK (see what I did there?)

There's a point in his career where he decided to court the tea party crowd to success. He'll always sell records just off the strength of his background. I'm interested to see how people he came up with view him now.

  

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198. "Give Drunk In Love more time. "
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That's one I hear girls reach for at every karaoke night, scream for every time it comes on at a bar, etc.

Crazy in Love and Single Ladies are absolutely both classics. He's out of his fucking mind.

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214. "have we changed the definition of CLASSIC?"
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cause ain't no fucking way those songs are classics.

  

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201. "he told the truth about her wack butt songs"
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and corn ball cheerleaders and they need to sit down as she does.

these corn ball mush room head turkeys like to make her out to be like Michael Jackson, however her music career is more like Marlon Jackson's.

she ain't done much of nothing despite all the hype

Crazy in love comes as close to a money track as she got and that still isn't gonna be enough to be remembered.

i ain't that big on Kid Rock per se though he has some talent, however he told no lies here and the Kayne cheerleading backlash is in full effect.

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202. "If the reverse happened it would be just as dumb though."
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Kid Rock doesn't have any classics. He's PWT who exploited black culture only to reveal his true colors by playing up to the worst instincts of working class and rural whites.

But if Beyonce said that in a magazine, I'd say, well she isn't lying. But why is she even entertaining this shit? The fuck does Kid Rock have to do with Beyonce's next project?


It isn't so much that I want to defend Beyonce, as much as I think Kid Rock is a jackass.



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203. "Id say he has one classic "
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That joint with Cheryl Crow. But honestly that song could have had any male country artist on it, and it wouId have still done numbers.

But the comment is just in poor taste. It's in very poor taste to criticize a peer that is more accomplished than you are. To criticize her for the same things he lacks? Nah not here for it. But mofos will jump on the anti Beyonce bandwagon just b/c its Beyonce and they dont agree with or understand her appeal.

If that's the case folks must not care for 85% of these popstars because theyre making the same type of " substance-less " music. Besides like lady GaGa, who else is doing what Beyonce does on that level? None of em.


  

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205. "I don't even like her music, and this shit irks me."
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I mean that genuinely. I like 1 song by Destiny's Child ("Say My Name", what can I say, it's a nice catchy pop song) and after that I wouldn't listen to Beyonce sing unless she was giving me the Marilyn Monroe birthday special.

However, just because I don't like her music, that doesn't mean I find it necessary to go out of my way to denigrate her career. It just feels like those losers ranting about Justin Beiber on youtube. Unless you're an 11 year old girl, why would you waste energy on that either way?

Beyonce isn't making music for Kid Rock, his key demo, or to make revolutionary, thought provoking songs that push the sonic boundary. She's making pop music for a diverse group of women and, let's be honest, gay men. If you're expecting more than that from her you are either unfamiliar with her career to date, or you're just being an asshole.

It would be like me getting mad at U2 for never making a good jazz song.


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276. "This is the crux of the issue for me"
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>I mean that genuinely. I like 1 song by Destiny's Child ("Say
>My Name", what can I say, it's a nice catchy pop song) and
>after that I wouldn't listen to Beyonce sing unless she was
>giving me the Marilyn Monroe birthday special.
>
>However, just because I don't like her music, that doesn't
>mean I find it necessary to go out of my way to denigrate her
>career. It just feels like those losers ranting about Justin
>Beiber on youtube. Unless you're an 11 year old girl, why
>would you waste energy on that either way?
>
>Beyonce isn't making music for Kid Rock, his key demo, or to
>make revolutionary, thought provoking songs that push the
>sonic boundary. She's making pop music for a diverse group of
>women and, let's be honest, gay men. If you're expecting more
>than that from her you are either unfamiliar with her career
>to date, or you're just being an asshole.
>
>It would be like me getting mad at U2 for never making a good
>jazz song.
>

That and the glee that some 'men' appear to be taking in getting behind someone who is obviously coming at this with racial overtones in his comments.

Just IMO though.

  

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289. "yeah, he's doubling down for his "new" demo"
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random as hell, but kinda predictable tho

  

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255. "Beyonce is to politically correct to diss another artist"
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and it ain't like she got a strong catelog or is known as a credible songwriter per se.

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229. "Except he would probably say worse about R Kelly. n/m"
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254. "FYI He colloborated with R.Kelly and Ludacris on the song"
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Rock Star off kellz double Up album back in 08.

He respects musicianship.

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208. "The fact is that Kid Rock told the truth about Beyonce. End of Post."
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209. "RE: The fact is that Kid Rock told his opinion about Beyonce. End of Pos..."
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Fixed it for you.

  

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210. "Give it up Hannah. White chicks with tits and Bob Seger > Bey."
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I mean that's just fucking math.


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215. "Turn the Page is better than any Beyonce song though. "
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I think you know what I'm getting at, and not to over state the point but, I can't name more than 2 songs by Beyonce and I can't get behind this shit.


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213. "I don't like the way he did that shit and I'm not a Bey fan at all"
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well, I'm a fan of her thighs and Me, Myself and I...

but this dude used every Fox News meta keyword available. You are from Detroit but now you are a hillbilly on a farm in Alabama who likes skinny white girls with big tits.

kudos for not biting the hand that feeds you but c'mon...

  

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217. "What? What hand is he biting? "
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>well, I'm a fan of her thighs and Me, Myself and I...
>
>but this dude used every Fox News meta keyword available. You
>are from Detroit but now you are a hillbilly on a farm in
>Alabama who likes skinny white girls with big tits.
>
>kudos for not biting the hand that feeds you but c'mon...
>
>


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219. "I said kudos for NOT biting the hand that feeds him"
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He knows white country rock pays the bills. He is catering to that audience instead of going back to hip hop or embracing Beyonce's impact on pop music.

You wouldnt expect KR's son to look like this:

http://assets-s3.usmagazine.com/uploads/assets/article_photos/kid-rock-grandpa-son-inline.jpg

Not sure why I need to explain the obvious...

  

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220. "You sure did. My Bad. "
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But KR is his own man and can have his own opinion.


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224. "yup"
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225. "RE: You sure did. My Bad. "
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>But KR is his own man and can have his own opinion.


Sure...but not when dude went from being immersed in black culture to having Ted Nugent (who called hip-hop artists niggers) on speed dial....

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230. "He's a Creative Artist, so I give him a pass."
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232. "RE: He's a Creative Artist, so I give him a pass."
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lol...

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218. "RE: The fact is that Kid Rock told the truth about Beyonce. End of Post."
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Rev....I'm astounded by how u and many others in this post are falling for this shit....lol

U guys are so amped to dance on Beyonce (and believe me, that's NOT the issue here...people should be allowed to criticize Yonce....I did so just weeks ago when I started that Beyonce-Selma Grammy post), that u r burying the lede...

While y'all r shaking them pom-poms, Rock is skating on the fact that dude is a classic culture vulture who has basically turned into a new age Ted Nugent....

This dude is a walking Zebra (movie reference) to an even more negative degree who discarded hip-hop when it no longer served its use....

But even more disturbing, Rock has become the new mascot for the Obama hating Far Right beyond the politics...Dude is giving dap to Palin, Nugent and Hank Williams Jr, talks about how he loves white chicks over black chicks (no harm in that) BUT has a black baby mama and dated black chicks when he became famous....

Connect 'dem dots, Y'all....Fuck Kid Rock.....

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222. "I went to party he DJ'd during fashion week in 2008 where he kept scream..."
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Kiss my Black Ass...

Fuck that dude. Then again, I can only get so mad at a person who makes an honest and conscious decision to get paid!

He isnt much different than Beyonce when she does pop trash but pulls a "my daddy sang this song" to steal that Selma shine.

Reminds me of Palin when she was talking about admiring Obama's rise before she was picked to be VP.

  

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228. "RE: I went to party he DJ'd during fashion week in 2008 where he kept sc..."
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>Kiss my Black Ass...
>
>Fuck that dude. Then again, I can only get so mad at a person
>who makes an honest and conscious decision to get paid!
>
>He isnt much different than Beyonce when she does pop trash
>but pulls a "my daddy sang this song" to steal that Selma
>shine.
>
>Reminds me of Palin when she was talking about admiring
>Obama's rise before she was picked to be VP.


What 'Yonce did was more on some Prom Queen GREEDY ASS, Selfish CHICK shit....That cannot be connected to the stunt Rock is pulling...

Basically, dude's true nature has come out....His pop would routinely use the N word around him and criticize why he was doing this black hip-hop shit since he raised him on Nugent, "Sweet Home Alabama" and the like....

Rock is now on his Uncle Cracker shit (clever, right?)

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227. "now THIS is real/true preachin'"
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>Rev....I'm astounded by how u and many others in this post
>are falling for this shit....lol
>
>U guys are so amped to dance on Beyonce (and believe me,
>that's NOT the issue here...people should be allowed to
>criticize Yonce....I did so just weeks ago when I started that
>Beyonce-Selma Grammy post), that u r burying the lede...
>
>While y'all r shaking them pom-poms, Rock is skating on the
>fact that dude is a classic culture vulture who has basically
>turned into a new age Ted Nugent....
>
>This dude is a walking Zebra (movie reference) to an even more
>negative degree who discarded hip-hop when it no longer served
>its use....
>
>But even more disturbing, Rock has become the new mascot for
>the Obama hating Far Right beyond the politics...Dude is
>giving dap to Palin, Nugent and Hank Williams Jr, talks about
>how he loves white chicks over black chicks (no harm in that)
>BUT has a black baby mama and dated black chicks when he
>became famous....
>
>Connect 'dem dots, Y'all....Fuck Kid Rock.....
>
>

  

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231. "Come on Murph. You calling the man a classic culture vulture?"
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>Rev....I'm astounded by how u and many others in this post
>are falling for this shit....lol
>
>U guys are so amped to dance on Beyonce (and believe me,
>that's NOT the issue here...people should be allowed to
>criticize Yonce....I did so just weeks ago when I started that
>Beyonce-Selma Grammy post), that u r burying the lede...
>
>While y'all r shaking them pom-poms, Rock is skating on the
>fact that dude is a classic culture vulture who has basically
>turned into a new age Ted Nugent....
>
>This dude is a walking Zebra (movie reference) to an even more
>negative degree who discarded hip-hop when it no longer served
>its use....
>
>But even more disturbing, Rock has become the new mascot for
>the Obama hating Far Right beyond the politics...Dude is
>giving dap to Palin, Nugent and Hank Williams Jr, talks about
>how he loves white chicks over black chicks (no harm in that)
>BUT has a black baby mama and dated black chicks when he
>became famous....
>
>Connect 'dem dots, Y'all....Fuck Kid Rock.....
>
>



Why can the dude have his own political views and position? Who said that a person has to stay in the same lane their whole life?


And when did his opinion about a basic talent R&B singer turn into a political and personal inditement against his character?




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233. "RE: Come on Murph. You calling the man a classic culture vulture?"
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>Why can the dude have his own political views and position?
>Who said that a person has to stay in the same lane their
>whole life?

U serious, dog?....lol

We all evolve....As I've gotten older I'm a lot more conservative in various aspects of my life...

But me thinking that kids should pull their pants up does not mean I'm going to be on some Dr. Ben Carson is right! shit....It's not going to compel me to say that the Affordable Care Act, which I'm sure some politically minded folks have REAL beef with, is as bad as slavery...

So yeah, when I hear a white boy who came in the music industry worshiping black culture, HAS A BLACK BABY MAMA, DJ'd black parties in Detroit, has black co-signs galore, was rolling with Too Short, and just nearly a decade ago was onstage with Jay Z rocking out on '99 Problems has now transformed into Ted Nugent, yeah, his politics matter....

Ted Nugent is not OUR friend. Ted Nugent would call u a nigger to your face and then strum a couple of licks of "Scratch Cat Fever"....


>And when did his opinion about a basic talent R&B singer turn
>into a political and personal inditement against his
>character?

Ahhh....u fell for that trap. U harping on Rock talking about B's MUSIC....And I'm talking about the fact that the same dude that had his nose wide open on black chicks, hip-hop culture, ect and felt compelled to say that he dug white chicks more than black women, which is hilarious given his past with black chicks...

Nah dog. The code words are all there. Hell, even him name checking "Sweet Home Alabama" is dog whistling like a mug...lol

But like I said I'm going to let u stay stuck on a few words on what Rock thinks about a peer's music and continue to let the contents of that entire interview go over your head....

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238. "I respect all of what you said, but -"
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you are reading too much into the matter.

KR made a comment about Beyonce's discography and you along with other's are turning the matter into a cultural, political, semi-racial issue.

The only thing missing is religion.. This is crazy how wrapped-up into this people have become.

It's not that serious.



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240. "Not being a serious matter =/= devoid of political and racial overtones"
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Kid Rock doesn't put food on my table. Beyonce has never put gas in my car.

You're right, it isn't THAT serious.

But not being a life and death issue, and Kid Rock being innocent of using racially coded language aren't the same thing.


"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard

  

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242. "RE: Not being a serious matter =/= devoid of political and racial overto..."
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>Kid Rock doesn't put food on my table. Beyonce has never put
>gas in my car.
>
>You're right, it isn't THAT serious.
>
>But not being a life and death issue, and Kid Rock being
>innocent of using racially coded language aren't the same
>thing.


True.....

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235. "His opinions on her didn't turn into anything..."
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It's just another marker in his turn towards right wing asshole.

Mike Huckabee talked shit about her too, and while I don't really care about his opinion, that shit did go into system storage as another example of the ways white media love to denigrate black people.

Kid Rock is a mediocre artist. Beyonce is a mediocre artist. So neither one of them are special, but at least Beyonce didn't ape country music to get famous and then turn around and shit on rural white people once she got famous singing R&B, the way Kid Rock got famous off of hip-hop and the turned towards trashy rock and redneck culture complete with veiled racism.

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And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard

  

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236. "RE: His opinions on her didn't turn into anything..."
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>It's just another marker in his turn towards right wing
>asshole.
>
>Mike Huckabee talked shit about her too, and while I don't
>really care about his opinion, that shit did go into system
>storage as another example of the ways white media love to
>denigrate black people.
>
>Kid Rock is a mediocre artist. Beyonce is a mediocre artist.
>So neither one of them are special, but at least Beyonce
>didn't ape country music to get famous and then turn around
>and shit on rural white people once she got famous singing
>R&B, the way Kid Rock got famous off of hip-hop and the turned
>towards trashy rock and redneck culture complete with veiled
>racism.


Doesn't fall for the Okey Doke^^^^^^^^^^

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239. "See post #238"
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>It's just another marker in his turn towards right wing
>asshole.
>
>Mike Huckabee talked shit about her too, and while I don't
>really care about his opinion, that shit did go into system
>storage as another example of the ways white media love to
>denigrate black people.
>
>Kid Rock is a mediocre artist. Beyonce is a mediocre artist.
>So neither one of them are special, but at least Beyonce
>didn't ape country music to get famous and then turn around
>and shit on rural white people once she got famous singing
>R&B, the way Kid Rock got famous off of hip-hop and the turned
>towards trashy rock and redneck culture complete with veiled
>racism.
>
>"All the world's a stage,
>And all the men and women merely players:
>They have their exits and their entrances;
>And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard


BTW Kid Rock is not a mediocre artist, but Beyonce is a mediocre artist.


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241. "RE: See post #238"
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>BTW Kid Rock is not a mediocre artist, but Beyonce is a
>mediocre artist.


lol....


Nah...Kid is quite mediocre.......He is the essence of mediocrity....At least with Beyonce u can say she sings A LOT better than a lot of R&B/Pop chicks beyond some of her "mediocre" material....

Rock?...dude was always a marginal rapper, DJ, and guitarist who got by because he was "down"...Dude was all gimmick....

In fact, Rock was on that VERY mediocre Nickleback status before he ran into the arms of the Good 'Ol Boy country music circuit (which BTW, go hand in hand with his politics...)

But all this^^^is moot since it takes away from the real issues with Kid Rock....

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243. "I've seen him live, he's very mediocre. "
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They have their exits and their entrances;
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244. "He's had twice as many albums and still hadnt sold half of what she has"
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All whilst being a singer, rapper, producer, multi instrumentalist, and trashy bastard.

  

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247. "Kid wins."
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246. "so no amount of thankless grind can help him avoid the vulture label eh?"
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248. "RE: so no amount of thankless grind can help him avoid the vulture label..."
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Not when he used black culture like toilet tissue and then flipped the script on some card carrying ultra Right Wing, fuck-this-hip-hop-shit-I'm-rolling-with-Hank-Williams-III-now shit.....

Fuck his thankless grind. Kid Rock was just out on safari...

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"was just out on safari...lol thats the new phrase!"


  

          

>
>
>
>Not when he used black culture like toilet tissue and then
>flipped the script on some card carrying ultra Right Wing,
>fuck-this-hip-hop-shit-I'm-rolling-with-Hank-Williams-III-now
>shit.....
>
>Fuck his thankless grind. Kid Rock was just out on safari...

  

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249. "was just out on safari...lol thats the new phrase!"
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>
>
>
>Not when he used black culture like toilet tissue and then
>flipped the script on some card carrying ultra Right Wing,
>fuck-this-hip-hop-shit-I'm-rolling-with-Hank-Williams-III-now
>shit.....
>
>Fuck his thankless grind. Kid Rock was just out on safari...

  

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256. "you seem to have remarkable insight on his personal motivations "
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Especially considering the 25 year time period in question

  

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258. "RE: you seem to have remarkable insight on his personal motivations "
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>Especially considering the 25 year time period in question


Shit...I wish I had that insight.....lol

I'm just connecting them dots....He seems to have become his father's son all the way....

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260. "it seems like there are people in here that know more about him tho"
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And not just me

PoppaGeorge is black and has strong knowledge of Detroit's black music underground, and has said the exact opposite of what you are saying

This is like that kevin durant post where i tried to share my extensive experience with orthopedic surgery but you were so entrenched in your own ideas that you just disregarded what me and la2philly were telling you.

Im an argumentative motherfucker but i try to stick to what i know firsthand, and to defer to experience on the other stuff. You seem unwilling to do that.

  

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261. "RE: it seems like there are people in here that know more about him tho"
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>And not just me
>
>PoppaGeorge is black and has strong knowledge of Detroit's
>black music underground, and has said the exact opposite of
>what you are saying


I think u have me confused with someone else.....

The reason u didn't see me respond to PoppaGeorge is because I didn't want to get into some discussion about how far Kid Rock's ghetto pass goes back....

In fact, I made it a point to say that his views on Beyonce's MUSIC is not the problem....I could care less that he thinks she's an overrated artist....

I think I've been pretty consistent with my underlining point and I don't have to have Rock's personal data in front of me to make any connection....

Whether Rock was or wasn't DJing in the 'hood and has a Trick Trick co-sign was never part of any point I've been making....

All I know is you can learn a lot from a person from their own words AND the company they keep....

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252. "What does his music have to do with his political views? "
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259. "RE: What does his music have to do with his political views? "
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Everything and nothing....

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266. "RE: What does his music have to do with his political views? "
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>
>
>Everything and nothing....

ROTFL


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292. "RE: What does his music have to do with his political views? "
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>>
>>
>>Everything and nothing....
>
>ROTFL


Hey...I gave a silly answer to a silly question, Rev.......

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223. "this post is fucking hilarious..."
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*add to list of okayplayers to not pay attention to*

  

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234. "why did the argument turned towards her physical appearance?"
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the interviewer could have brought up just her accomplishment along, and that can shut his disagreement down.

let me shut the fuck up because i can give a shit about beyonce and kid rock

  

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237. "He got an NAACP award tho? I knew they were a joke but damn."
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Haven't kept up with anything they've done in ages.

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250. "pre hick reveal I'm sure"
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>Haven't kept up with anything they've done in ages.
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253. "From a man who used Radiohead toilet paper in a video"
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I disagree with more than these comments. That being said the "American Badass" is entitled to an opinion.

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264. "Radiohead needs to be taken down a peg, just like any of us"
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>I disagree with more than these comments. That being said the
>"American Badass" is entitled to an opinion.

  

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271. "is Radiohead some sacred cow or something? lol"
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273. "The most sacredest non okay artist on here"
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275. "RE: is Radiohead some sacred cow or something? lol"
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I think you misconstrued my comment. It's not like I was offended by the video lol. My point is I'm not mad at Kid Rock's opinion on Radiohead or Beyoncé.

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278. "And yes I celebrate Radiohead's entire catalogue"
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257. "i ain't never been into Kid Rock to me is a broke Neil Young"
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he has some talent and he been around a minute still he does nothing for me as a artist though he will try his hand in different styles from time to time.

and ones poltiics etc... is a seperate issue from there music, etc.

as for Beyonce she is one of the ten most overrated artists ever and while she has talent, she sings about the most wackest things.

her voice is wasted on alot of subpar material and she does have that "IT" and I will say she has been the most important Black cross over Artist over the past decade and change,however ain't much been memorable IMO.

Beyonce needs a Candi Station "young hearts RIde Free" type of cut in her catelog and then i might sorta understand half the hype.

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265. "Who gives a fuck about any of this"
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Except for, well, those of you who spent all that time arguing over it.

A 40 year + white male who writes middle America songs called "Born Free" and supported Mitt Romney doesn't like Beyonce? OMFG, LET RIOT!!!!

I can't think of a more irrelevant topic of discussion and you should all be ashamed of yourselves for discussing this nonsense.

  

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267. "RE: Who gives a fuck about any of this"
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>Except for, well, those of you who spent all that time
>arguing over it.
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>A 40 year + white male who writes middle America songs called
>"Born Free" and supported Mitt Romney doesn't like Beyonce?
>OMFG, LET RIOT!!!!
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>I can't think of a more irrelevant topic of discussion and you
>should all be ashamed of yourselves for discussing this
>nonsense.

Yo Truth...chill homie......

There's been A LOT more irrelevant stuff discussed on this board....lol...Like A LOT....

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269. "imho he shoulda went after Madonna."
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She's even more flagrant given his standards stated.

Not nearly as talented as Beyonce as a singer or performer, and her titty game is lack compared to Bey.

.......or pick ANY White artist that got to ascend to "ICON" status via pairing mediocrity with marketing.

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270. "oh good grief lol. "
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> Madonna
>Not nearly as talented as Beyonce as a singer or performer

  

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291. "That part is true as hell tho."
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I especially don't know how anyone can deny the "singer" part, and I'm not even a
Beyonce fan.

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272. "nigga what???"
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274. "You should edit a "RIGHT TODAY" at the end of the sentence...."
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287. "yea. smh @ ppl who dedicated their weekend to arguing this shit"
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268. "But his kid's mom...nvm."
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279. "he's right about the criticism on her music"
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but he definitely on some bullshit

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281. "Kid Rock has always been a redneck, racist bigoted piece of shit."
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he probably had to think real long and slow to make sure he didnt say any racist shit. im surprised at how he managed to give that answer without showing his hand.

anyone who flies that confed flag is a racist who minimizes slavery (IMO)

never liked him or his "music"...even when he had that little midget sidekick...always came across like some white trash rap that river rats were into, along with ICP.

i could give two fucks if he can beat box, play instruments,pop lock on a piece of cardboard, or if he knows what to do with an aerosol can.

i hate that he somehow still gets to represent the D (when ESPN let him narrate that Bad Boys 30 for 30? *CRINGE*)

...if he lost the ability to speak/sing/rap, i would smile and light one up in celebration.

I enjoy Destiny's Child and Beyonce's music faaaaaar more.

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282. "Her Voice is an Instrument."
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Patti labelle

Sam Cooke

Donny Hathaway

Luther Vandross

Ledesi

Jill Scott

These are some of my favorite singers...

and you cannot discount them because they dont play more than one instrument.

Just because you can play the harmonica and the cowbell and a banjo..

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285. "Add the man who forever changed music... James Brown"
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People go way overboard these days with that "they don't play an instrument" bullshit.

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286. "James played piano and organ"
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his close collaborator Bobby Byrd (a more skilled keyboard player) said James was tone terrible on the organ (because the way he put his hands all over various keys in an - uh - sloppy way) but...Bobby had to admit that "nobody sounded like him (James)".

  

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288. "RE: put his hands all over the keys in a sloppy way"
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I guess everyone plays organ in this case
His drumming on Watermelon Man is a time-keeping exercise with the non-stop kick-drum.
We can all do that with basic rhythm.
I guess I should say he didn't play any instrument "well".
U right tho, he had the balls to get behind one.

I'd say the point here is that Kid Rock would be talking shit about James Brown too,
in regards to instruments, if they were contemporaries, so the criticism is silly.



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293. "yea, but james changed music"
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she's mostly changed the industry and music marketing

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