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legsdiamond
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"Jihadi John: Islamic State killer identified as Londoner Mohammed Emwazi..."


          

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/jihadi-john-the-islamic-state-killer-behind-the-mask-is-a-young-londoner/2015/02/25/d6dbab16-bc43-11e4-bdfa-b8e8f594e6ee_story.html

LONDON — The world knows him as “Jihadi John,” the masked man with a British accent who has beheaded several hostages held by the Islamic State and who taunts audiences in videos circulated widely online.

But his real name, according to friends and others familiar with his case, is Mohammed Emwazi, a Briton from a well-to-do family who grew up in West London and graduated from college with a degree in computer programming. He is believed to have traveled to Syria around 2012 and to have later joined the Islamic State, the group whose barbarity he has come to symbolize.



“I have no doubt that Mohammed is Jihadi John,” said one of Emwazi’s close friends who identified him in an interview with The Washington Post. “He was like a brother to me. . . . I am sure it is him.”

A representative of a British human rights group who had been in contact with Emwazi before he left for Syria also said he believed Emwazi was Jihadi John, a moniker given to him by some of the hostages he once held.

“There was an extremely strong resemblance,” Asim Qureshi, research director at the rights group, CAGE, said when shown one of the videos and asked to confirm whether Emwazi could be “Jihadi John.”

  

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real life is a tv show.
Feb 26th 2015
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may he rest in hell
Feb 26th 2015
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RE: Jihadi John: Islamic State killer identified as Londoner Mohammed Em...
Feb 26th 2015
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This is the key:
Feb 27th 2015
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      Then most black people should be doing this type of thing right?
Feb 27th 2015
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           yes and no
Feb 27th 2015
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                The U.S. detains niggas every day, sometimes twice a day on Fridays
Feb 27th 2015
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                Cuba already has a number of militants from the US
Feb 27th 2015
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The CIA just trolled the hell outta dude.
Feb 26th 2015
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photo of Jihadi John...
Feb 27th 2015
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Terrible press for the Pittsburgh Pirates... n/m
Feb 27th 2015
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      fuck him... this is our year!!!
Feb 27th 2015
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           LMAO!
Feb 27th 2015
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I'm mad that they have a silly ass name for this guy
Feb 27th 2015
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probably by intention
Feb 27th 2015
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Have any of you ever watched the Jihadist propoganda videos?
Feb 27th 2015
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SHAstayhighalways
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1. "real life is a tv show."
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www.royallegacy.org

For Real (Official Video):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBRoCPO8esE

  

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initiationofplato
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2. "may he rest in hell"
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~Experience is the currency of the soul.

  

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Sarah_Bellum
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3. "RE: Jihadi John: Islamic State killer identified as Londoner Mohammed Em..."
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I really don't get it... You go from popping round the pub for bangers and mash to cutting off heads. I can see if you're young, poor, and disenfranchised idiots stuck in Syria get caught up because shit is bad and ain't nothing to do in a war zone but war.....
but this fool left London to do this?!?!

I guess he's no different than the fuck wads that signed up for Iraq just to fill some Iraqis with bullet holes without consequences... It just this guy was raised watching the real world and road rules so he thinks he's a reality tv celeb/jihadi.

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ShawndmeSlanted
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8. "This is the key:"
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Fri Feb-27-15 01:15 PM by ShawndmeSlanted

  

          

For western countries, the danger of treating people like suspects is that in can increase the likelihood of people getting fed up and becoming what you were trying to prevent.

Who knows this story could be BS, or he coulda radicalized anyways-- but I think if past transgressions to people of color were made in today's social media/globalization age, we may have fought back in similar ways.



He was raised in a middle­class neighborhood in London and on occasion prayed at a
mosque in Greenwich.

The friends, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the
investigation, believe that Emwazi started to radicalize after a planned safari in Tanzania
following his graduation from the University of Westminster.

Emwazi and two friends — a German convert to Islam named Omar and another man,
Abu Talib — never made it on the trip. Once they landed in Dar es Salaam, in May 2009,
they were detained by police and held overnight. It’s unclear whether the reason for the
detention was made clear to the three, but they were eventually deported.
Emwazi flew to Amsterdam, where he claimed that an officer from MI5, Britain’s domestic
security agency, accused him of trying to reach Somalia, where the militant group alShabab
operates in the southern part of the country, according to e­mails that he sent to
Qureshi and that were provided to The Post.


Emwazi denied the accusation and claimed that MI5 representatives had tried to recruit
him. But a former hostage said Jihadi John was obsessed with Somalia and made his
captives watch videos about al­Shabab, which is allied with al­Qaeda.
The episode was described in the Independent, a British newspaper, which identifiedEmwazi as Muhammad ibn Muazzam.

Emwazi and his friends were allowed to return to Britain, where he met with Qureshi in
the fall of 2009 to discuss what had happened. “Mohammed was quite incensed by his
treatment, that he had been very unfairly treated,” Qureshi said.
Shortly afterward, Emwazi decided to move to his birthplace, Kuwait, where he landed a
job working for a computer company, according to the e­mails he wrote to Qureshi. He
came back to London twice, the second time to finalize his wedding plans to a woman in
Kuwait.

In June 2010, however, counterterrorism officials in Britain detained him again — this
time fingerprinting him and searching his belongings. When he tried to fly back to Kuwait
the next day, he was prevented from doing so.

“I had a job waiting for me and marriage to get started,” he wrote in a June 2010 e­mail to
Qureshi. But now “I feel like a prisoner, only not in a cage, in London. A person
imprisoned & controlled by security service men, stopping me from living my new life in
my birthplace & country, Kuwait.”

Nearly four months later, when a court in New York sentenced Aafia Siddiqui, an alQaeda
operative convicted for the attempted murder of U.S. personnel in Afghanistan,
Emwazi expressed sympathy for her, saying he had “heard the upsetting news regarding
our sister. . . . This should only keep us firmer towards fighting for freedom and justice!!!”
In the interview, Qureshi said he last heard from Emwazi in January 2012, when Emwazi
sent him an e­mail seeking advice.

“This is a young man who was ready to exhaust every single kind of avenue within themachinery of the state to bring a change for his personal situation,” Qureshi said. In the
end, he felt “actions were taken to criminalize him and he had no way to do something
against these actions.”

Close friends of Emwazi’s also said his situation in London had made him desperate to
leave the country. It’s unclear exactly when he reached Syria or how.
One friend said he believed Emwazi wanted to travel to Saudi Arabia to teach English in
2012 but was unsuccessful. Soon afterward, the friend said, he was gone.
“He was upset and wanted to start a life elsewhere,” one of the friends said. “He at some
stage reached the point where he was really just trying to find another way to get out.”
Once in Syria, Emwazi contacted his family and at least one of his friends. It’s unclear
what he told them about his activities there.

A former hostage who was debriefed by officials upon release said that Jihadi John was
part of a team guarding Western captives at a prison in Idlib, Syria, in 2013. The hostages
nicknamed the facility “the box.” Emwazi was joined by two other men with British
accents, including one who was dubbed “George.” A former hostage said Emwazi
participated in the waterboarding of four Western hostages.


Former hostages described George as the leader of the trio. Jihadi John, they said, was
quiet and intelligent. “He was the most deliberate,” a former hostage said.
Beginning in early 2014, the hostages were moved to a prison in the Syrian city of Raqqa,
the Islamic State’s de facto capital, where they were visited often by the trio. They appeared to have taken on more powerful roles within the Islamic State.
About the same time, Qureshi said, he sent an e­mail to Emwazi.
“I was wondering if you could send me your number,” he wrote. “Inshallah it
will be good to catch up.”
There was no respons

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"though time has passed, im still the future" (c) black thought

  

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Atillah Moor
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10. "Then most black people should be doing this type of thing right?"
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or even Latinos, but it's usually white dudes that go terrorist and they don't face that kind of suspicion. McVeigh(sp?), Kazinsky, the Boston Bombers, the kkk, etc.

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11. "yes and no"
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>or even Latinos, but it's usually white dudes that go
>terrorist and they don't face that kind of suspicion.
>McVeigh(sp?), Kazinsky, the Boston Bombers, the kkk, etc.

Ill have a longer reply when i get back from the doc


But, Remember this isnt MOST Muslims joining IS either. That type of treatment of people does lead to cases of this too. We see it all the time even on this site. A call stop fucking with traditional forms of govt. To fuck the system and turn it upside down. Im looking at several posts from my facebook feed in the past 48 hours talking bout the Devil and Babylon here--and wanting to get the fuck outta dodge.

Difference is we dont have a state or a place to go to. If there were a real place like that you don't think some: Black, Latinos, Asians,Native Americans, etc--even middle class raised ones wouldnt go= wouldnt go? Shiiiiit.

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Sarah_Bellum
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14. "The U.S. detains niggas every day, sometimes twice a day on Fridays "
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Fri Feb-27-15 04:40 PM by Sarah_Bellum

  

          

Keeps them from from jobs, family and the whole nine. If getting stopped at airports and spending a night in jail unjustly caused people to go around lopping off heads then there would be legions of black head hunters in every city.
There are dudes out in Iraq and Syria that have been living the horrors of war for several decades. After living under cruel dictators or under U.S. occupation or having 3 generations of family blown up by a drone at a wedding party, they welcome war and death. Add crushing poverty, and a dash of religious extremism, a failed state and tada.... you get head cutters. I get that.
But this dude did not experience any of that!

There is something individually wrong with this specific guy, if really he is even real. This individual picked a path that several million Muslims who are living under far worse conditions would never even fathom.


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16. "Cuba already has a number of militants from the US"
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and this is the recognized list -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_citizens_granted_political_asylum_in_Cuba

  

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4. "The CIA just trolled the hell outta dude. "
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Womp womp

Dude is about to be put in the dirt ASAP

  

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legsdiamond
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5. "photo of Jihadi John..."
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http://news.sky.com/story/1435642/first-photo-of-jihadi-john-as-adult-revealed

this dude rocking a fitted Pirate hat looking like your average 90's rapper.

  

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6. "Terrible press for the Pittsburgh Pirates... n/m"
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7. "fuck him... this is our year!!! "
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12. "LMAO!"
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9. "I'm mad that they have a silly ass name for this guy"
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15. "probably by intention"
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~Experience is the currency of the soul.

  

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13. "Have any of you ever watched the Jihadist propoganda videos?"
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Fri Feb-27-15 02:47 PM by guru0509

  

          

Its all over the internet (in various languages but mostly from the UK, France & Germany) and its fascinating.

i remember thrill being a big fan of them as well.

careful tho, watchin them will prob get u on a list

edit, link, i have more bookmarked at home.


https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-Y0P1AEkBcENGPkXj4qqRw

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the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

  

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