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"I feel like she smells like patchouli oil. (c) Giuliana Rancic"
Tue Feb-24-15 09:06 AM by Airbreed

  

          

Or weed. (c) Kelli Osbourne

Maybe weed (c) Giuliana Rancic

lol @ these bitches. **cues I Am Not My Hair**

http://www.complex.com/style/2015/02/zendaya-responds

During E!'s Fashion Police Oscars special Monday night, co-host Giuliana Rancic made a wildly offensive comment about actress Zendaya Coleman’s hair. Apparently, Giuliana thought the 18-year-old’s decision to rock locs on the red carpet made her look like she smelled of patchouli oil and weed. No, really. She actually said that.

Of course, it wasn't long before people took to social media to call out the ignorant commentary. Even Zendaya, who says she typical ignores negative remarks, thought Giuliana’s words so distasteful that she felt obligated to post a letter defending her locs and pointing out the blatant racism within the co-host’s “joke.”

Take a look below to see the clip of Giuliana making those remarks, as well as the justifiably pissed-off Twitter responses. You can also read the letter Zendaya posted Monday evening, in which she drops some much-needed education on Giuliana.

https://vine.co/v/OQPwPeLLurz/embed/simple via @vineapp

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
Aren't mean comments part of Joan Rivers legacy?
Feb 24th 2015
1
*sets up chair and waits for the usual suspects to defend this*
Feb 24th 2015
2
Yep. It's already happening. And right on time.
Feb 24th 2015
27
The problem with shows like this is that Joan Rivers was a comedian
Feb 24th 2015
3
they're right.
Feb 24th 2015
4
Nothing hippie about her well-manicured, trendy twists
Feb 24th 2015
13
      they're obviously fake
Feb 24th 2015
15
           Yeah, just edited a little.
Feb 24th 2015
20
*awaits caped crusaders*
Feb 24th 2015
5
so... we aren't supposed to be annoyed by that?
Feb 24th 2015
99
      RE: so... we aren't supposed to be annoyed by that?
Feb 24th 2015
126
now this is worth derision
Feb 24th 2015
6
Zendaya's hair reminded me of white kids who wear braids
Feb 24th 2015
7
      yea, i aint mad at the patchouli part
Feb 24th 2015
8
           the white college kids they meant to reference DO smoke and smell
Feb 24th 2015
9
                i know...
Feb 24th 2015
10
                pretty much all of the outraged need to have seats.
Feb 24th 2015
12
                me either
Feb 24th 2015
17
                     right. unless black ppl are known to smell of patchouli and weed...
Feb 24th 2015
18
                          projection of bigotry
Feb 24th 2015
19
                               naw, it was fine.
Feb 24th 2015
21
                                    even when we agree u wont let me get the last word
Feb 24th 2015
22
                                         LOL
Feb 24th 2015
24
                It's not its only cause she is white
Feb 24th 2015
14
                agree
Feb 24th 2015
85
Nice response by Zendaya.
Feb 24th 2015
11
does Kazembe wear a weave too?
Feb 24th 2015
16
      Let the mixed kids cook bro
Feb 24th 2015
23
           that too is very Berkeley.
Feb 24th 2015
25
           pretty much
Feb 24th 2015
28
                when did Giuliana or Kelly compliment Kylie for wearing badly-done fake ...
Feb 24th 2015
33
                     would it be better that they said nothing at all?
Feb 24th 2015
36
                          the Kylie thing is of no moment
Feb 24th 2015
38
                               wrong
Feb 24th 2015
40
                                    lol
Feb 24th 2015
42
                                         right.
Feb 24th 2015
44
                                              you see it.
Feb 24th 2015
48
                                                   if it makes you feel better
Feb 24th 2015
49
                                                        i feel fine either way.
Feb 24th 2015
51
                                                             its clear you dont
Feb 24th 2015
55
                                                                  you're right. i'm VERY bothered.
Feb 24th 2015
57
                                                                       at least you admit it!
Feb 24th 2015
59
                                                                            yup. i'm very bothered that whitey's tricknology is so thick
Feb 24th 2015
61
                                                                                 oh no its clear you MUST correct the wrong black folk
Feb 24th 2015
64
                                                                                      k.
Feb 24th 2015
67
                                                                                           RE: k.
Feb 24th 2015
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                                                                                           I swear, it's HILARIOUS how conversations trickle down to one letter.
Feb 26th 2015
172
I think it's racist to associate patchouli oil & weed with black folks
Feb 24th 2015
26
i'm mad this had to be said
Feb 24th 2015
29
Yup. We never had a monopoly on it, despite our neo-soul moments
Feb 24th 2015
30
aint had that to say about Kylie Jenner
Feb 24th 2015
31
is stereotyping racism?
Feb 24th 2015
32
only if Blacks are stereotyped to smell like patchouli and weed.
Feb 24th 2015
34
      word.
Feb 24th 2015
63
It's a silly E! show.
Feb 24th 2015
35
about as seriously as sport commentators
Feb 24th 2015
37
      no, it doesn't.
Feb 24th 2015
39
      yes there is
Feb 24th 2015
41
           no.
Feb 24th 2015
43
                k
Feb 24th 2015
45
                     exactly.
Feb 24th 2015
46
      Have you smelled patchouli before?
Feb 24th 2015
76
           lets try for common sense then
Feb 24th 2015
93
                You have a point too. She looks very put together/proper/stylish.
Feb 24th 2015
108
                nope insulting hippies was her goal
Feb 24th 2015
117
                All I see are t... wait... nvrmnd.
Feb 24th 2015
118
SoWhat is wrong, mostly eveyone else is right
Feb 24th 2015
47
white ppl also know that patchouli + weed = dirty hippie.
Feb 24th 2015
50
RE: hmmm
Feb 24th 2015
52
in the white gaze? not really.
Feb 24th 2015
56
You have a point, patchouli = white hippy with locks.
Feb 24th 2015
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      agreed. maybe not 'dirty'.
Feb 24th 2015
74
      hippies are almost always associated with being dirty
Feb 24th 2015
120
i would given benefit of the doubt
Feb 24th 2015
54
it's like:
Feb 24th 2015
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      LMFAO
Feb 24th 2015
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      lol
Feb 24th 2015
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      AHA! PATCHOULI
Feb 24th 2015
65
      yep, it was well used racism camo
Feb 24th 2015
66
           yes...much like guiliani
Feb 24th 2015
69
                haha, yeah those 2 are exactly the same thing.
Feb 24th 2015
70
                     yes... of course... Zendaya is half white too!
Feb 24th 2015
91
      Not for nothing, I burn the heck out of these:
Feb 24th 2015
82
           yup
Feb 24th 2015
84
      Girl in the background though?
Feb 24th 2015
113
as a member of the "they" group, pachouli and weed is definitely
Feb 24th 2015
68
      yeah, I think SoWhat won me over with his two replies above
Feb 24th 2015
72
      i say the locs were badly done b/c of the visible plats on her scalp.
Feb 24th 2015
73
      except she didn't say "and" she said "or"
Feb 24th 2015
88
           both are associated with hippies.
Feb 24th 2015
89
                it's not clear to the person it was aimed at
Feb 24th 2015
104
                     Her hair is okay. There was no race problem with the comment.
Feb 24th 2015
109
                          disagree - she's a (bi)racialized pop figure
Feb 24th 2015
112
                               that's great.
Feb 24th 2015
116
                                    I feel you
Feb 25th 2015
158
                                         right?
Feb 25th 2015
162
Speaking of patchouli oil, verdict on the smell/effect?
Feb 24th 2015
71
I hate the smell of patchouli
Feb 24th 2015
77
People wear it because they fear toxic contaminants in deodrant
Feb 24th 2015
78
One jawn smelled like bubblegum when she wore it
Feb 24th 2015
103
so you liked it?
Feb 24th 2015
130
How about a verdict on vetiver?
Feb 24th 2015
121
I don't like vetiver either
Feb 24th 2015
134
love it..Balenciaga, Like a Prayer cassette
Feb 25th 2015
152
      Balenciaga Pour Homme?
Feb 26th 2015
171
           yup
Feb 26th 2015
179
ugh.
Feb 24th 2015
75
yea the statement was about her hair
Feb 24th 2015
79
couldn't agree more.
Feb 24th 2015
81
I said badly done but not dirty.
Feb 24th 2015
83
word.
Feb 24th 2015
86
oh no just someone else calling them dirty
Feb 24th 2015
94
pretty sure i can do a quick search on this site and find the same joke
Feb 24th 2015
80
please do.
Feb 24th 2015
131
      RE: please do.
Feb 25th 2015
136
           flawless mandate...
Feb 25th 2015
141
                you know? i'm impressed lol
Feb 25th 2015
163
                Smooove
Feb 25th 2015
164
Same people defending her went in on her last year for the Aaliyah movie
Feb 24th 2015
87
SoWhat more patient than me.
Feb 24th 2015
90
i think he actually enjoys it!
Feb 24th 2015
95
      he loves it.
Feb 24th 2015
106
           He did it for #72. As a professional arguer, getting an about face
Feb 24th 2015
115
yall getting to be on some cry wolf ish about cism.
Feb 24th 2015
96
what is Zendaya, racially?
Feb 24th 2015
98
      Homo sapien with a slight percentage of Neanderthal I'm guessing
Feb 24th 2015
114
      Lol there wouldnt have be a comment if she was white, asian, brown
Feb 24th 2015
119
She needs to shut the fuck up and eat a sandwich
Feb 24th 2015
97
nope nope not the end
Feb 24th 2015
100
If they don't understand how this is inherently racist then oh well
Feb 24th 2015
101
      pretty much
Feb 24th 2015
102
She does need several sandwiches.
Feb 24th 2015
111
agreed
Feb 24th 2015
124
really wonder if Joan Rivers would have said this if anyone bats an eye.
Feb 24th 2015
105
Joan Rivers is dead
Feb 25th 2015
140
      fixed it.
Feb 26th 2015
169
meanwhile.. actual fashion ppl are saying Zendaya killed it
Feb 24th 2015
107
the dress is fine.
Feb 24th 2015
110
Am I the only one who didn't know what patchouli oil was???
Feb 24th 2015
122
nope
Feb 24th 2015
125
you guys never watched High Fidelity?
Feb 25th 2015
145
      Nah I haven't seen it
Feb 26th 2015
167
It sounds like an MF Doom Special Herb
Feb 24th 2015
128
its an oil dirty white hippies love to wear...
Feb 24th 2015
132
#digyourselfout
Feb 24th 2015
123
what'd she say about Ava's look?
Feb 24th 2015
127
      i don't like that black girl's ethnic hairstyle
Feb 24th 2015
129
           you're not familiar w/patchouli, i take it.
Feb 25th 2015
143
                you're not familiar w/weed, i take it.
Feb 25th 2015
159
                     if she'd just said 'weed' i'd be w/you.
Feb 25th 2015
161
                          so you're okay with white women critiquing black hair
Feb 25th 2015
165
                               I gotta believe y'all playing dumb.
Feb 25th 2015
166
                               what's dumb is y'all pretending like you can't understand
Feb 26th 2015
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                                    bc people got offended
Feb 26th 2015
177
                                    Y'all really be believing these fake ass apologies.
Feb 26th 2015
178
                               i don't think the comment in this case was racist.
Feb 26th 2015
168
Making this about race is stupid
Feb 24th 2015
133
Pretty much.
Feb 25th 2015
135
fine lets make it about age
Feb 25th 2015
137
      its ridiculous.
Feb 25th 2015
138
      like its SO damn hard to go
Feb 25th 2015
147
      nah, let these people continue to trip over their capes...
Feb 25th 2015
139
           what capes?
Feb 25th 2015
142
                TO YOU
Feb 25th 2015
146
                glad u found your outrage
Feb 26th 2015
174
                yup. they do.
Feb 25th 2015
148
Oooooh I though patchouli oil what the stuff used in natural hair
Feb 25th 2015
Oooooh I though patchouli oil what the stuff used in natural hair
Feb 25th 2015
144
FOH, ol Paper Mario and The Thousand Year Door lookin' ass
Feb 25th 2015
149
I have no idea who Zendaya is or what patchouli is.
Feb 25th 2015
150
Where I come from: dreads + patchouli + weed = hippies
Feb 25th 2015
151
thank u for having sense, *hugs*
Feb 26th 2015
175
She Apologized [VIDEO]
Feb 25th 2015
153
she did the right thing.
Feb 25th 2015
154
Twitter got people apologizing everyday. It's unnecessary.
Feb 25th 2015
155
i agree but sometimes it's better to just apologize
Feb 25th 2015
156
I don't thnk she even understood what she was apologizing for
Feb 25th 2015
157
      i agree.
Feb 25th 2015
160
ugh apologies make it worse
Feb 26th 2015
170
as apologies go...this was one of the better ones I've seen
Feb 26th 2015
173
to the people who say its dumb to be mad about this:
Feb 26th 2015
180

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1. "Aren't mean comments part of Joan Rivers legacy?"
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I kinda always thought it was part of the event. Poor girl lost by writing an "I'm hurt" letter. That's exactly what the commentators wanted. Why black folks even go to this stuff is beyond me.

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2. "*sets up chair and waits for the usual suspects to defend this*"
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27. "Yep. It's already happening. And right on time. "
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3. "The problem with shows like this is that Joan Rivers was a comedian "
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These people who try to do it now they can't get away with saying shit like this the way she could and they have no clue why it doesn't work for them lol idiots

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4. "they're right. "
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the clearly fake locs looked ridiculous on Zendaya - like they'd swallow her.

and she did look like a dirty hippie (who'd been cleaned up for the red carpet).

i dunno if Zendaya's family also wears weave. i doubt Ava, Terry or Ledisi wear weave, but maybe.

Zendaya needs a seat.

fuck you.

  

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13. "Nothing hippie about her well-manicured, trendy twists"
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>and she did look like a dirty hippie (who'd been cleaned up
>for the red carpet).


Edit: At least nothing black hippie/boho. I just saw your post below and agree that she looks like a white hippie rasta that just adopted that style a week or so ago.

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15. "they're obviously fake"
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and not done particularly well (all of those visible plats - WTF?).

the FP comment referenced others who are known to wear fake locs - hippies.

fuck you.

  

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20. "Yeah, just edited a little."
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Kinda bugs me that nowadays a lot of hairstyles that people used to catch hell for are now normal, trendy and mainstream. I love that folks have adopted a lot of styles, but it does irk me a little that some folks still want the bravery points that comes along with bucking trends, without actually having to be brave and buck any trends (like the black women wearing locs in the 90s).

Kinda like suburban hipsters moving to gentrified parts of Brooklyn, then talking about how rough the streets are where they live. Maybe in 1995.

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5. "*awaits caped crusaders*"
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99. "so... we aren't supposed to be annoyed by that? "
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folk should just let that go?

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126. "RE: so... we aren't supposed to be annoyed by that? "
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Annoyed by what? Zendaya's hairstyle or the YT poppin' ingnorant shit? I see more than a few capes in here defending YT

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6. "now this is worth derision"
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that jiggaboo shit nah

this is blatant as shit...and screams of lack of any racial sensitivity

moreso the weed part though

but even so...it's still pretty low on the scale...

they coulda used just about any hippie stereotype to at least make this joke land on the right fucking demo

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7. "Zendaya's hair reminded me of white kids who wear braids"
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more than it reminded me of actual locs.

which is why i LOL'd when they said she looked like she smelled of patchouli. b/c to me her braids screamed 'college kid' more than 'dreadloc'd rasta'.

fuck you.

  

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8. "yea, i aint mad at the patchouli part"
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it was the weed that signaled the "Tread Lightly" Nigga alert

if they had added some birkenstocks to it...it would have been less insensitive to us bigoted niggas who think weed is a black drug

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9. "the white college kids they meant to reference DO smoke and smell"
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like weed.

the 'weed' thing wasn't at all a dig at the Blacks, IMO. it followed from the 'patchouli' comment.

fuck you.

  

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10. "i know..."
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but it's toeing a weird line

some might argue hippies are just white people who stole 70s black culture

and black bigots think any reference to dreads and weed is tread lightly territory

i think this is one of those "the jokes on all of us" type of outrages

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12. "pretty much all of the outraged need to have seats."
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the girl wore obviously weaved/fake locs and Kelly and Giuliana made a snarky comment about them, saying her look reminded them of other ppl who wear fake locs - hippies.

i don't see the race-based outrage.

fuck you.

  

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17. "me either"
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>i don't see the race-based outrage.


they were trying to make fun of hippies, not black people.

  

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18. "right. unless black ppl are known to smell of patchouli and weed..."
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fuck you.

  

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19. "projection of bigotry"
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but u should always be careful of black hairstyles lol

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21. "naw, it was fine."
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the twitter outrage will pass.

fuck you.

  

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22. "even when we agree u wont let me get the last word"
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asshole

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24. "LOL"
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fuck you.

  

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14. "It's not its only cause she is white "
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White people talking about any culture always comes off weird to people and rightfully so because of history. But it wasn't racist it's just a weird comment coming from a white girl. She didn't say anything you wouldn't have said yourself or read on here lol
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85. "agree"
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11. "Nice response by Zendaya. "
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by the way her dad's name is Kazembe

And she's from Oakland

I feel like she and Marshawn Lynch should to do a fuck the media day, Town style.

  

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16. "does Kazembe wear a weave too?"
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LOL

Zendaya's weave looks more like Berkeley than Kingstown. and that was the point of the joke about patchouli and weed.

fuck you.

  

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23. "Let the mixed kids cook bro"
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Don't mixed kids turn more radical when they go away to college?

Zendaya is that age.

She can write well-worded response pieces to unpack her feelings all day as far as I'm concerned

  

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25. "that too is very Berkeley."
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LOL

sho you right.

fuck you.

  

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28. "pretty much"
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>Don't mixed kids turn more radical when they go away to
>college?
>
>Zendaya is that age.
>
>She can write well-worded response pieces to unpack her
>feelings all day as far as I'm concerned


skeletor is no Joan Rivers
and even Joan would get the side eye
and had the nerve to compliment Kim K sis on the same damn look
fuck no
have a damn seat
*gives Zendaya the mic*
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33. "when did Giuliana or Kelly compliment Kylie for wearing badly-done fake ..."
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fuck you.

  

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36. "would it be better that they said nothing at all?"
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i cant find it

but yes you're right
their absolute silence when kylie did hers yep way better

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38. "the Kylie thing is of no moment"
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the point is the 'patchouli and weed' comment wasn't about race it was about Zendaya's fake locs making her look like a hippie. and they did.

fuck you.

  

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40. "wrong"
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>the point is the 'patchouli and weed' comment wasn't about
>race it was about Zendaya's fake locs making her look like a
>hippie. and they did.

its another "thing that broke the internet'

and if you had seen or known about Kylie's locks
and its okay to admit that you didnt
you AND they would see what white hippie locks truly look like
and they look NOTHING like Zedaya's hairstyle

so yes its ignorance
and the fact that its locks on a light skinned black woman
and she has the nerve to not know
its not the same damn thing?
again sit the fuck down
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42. "lol"
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>and if you had seen or known about Kylie's locks
>and its okay to admit that you didnt

yeah, i don't follow the Kardashians. i'm not ashamed. LOL

>so yes its ignorance
>and the fact that its locks on a light skinned black woman

obviously fake locs on a light skinned black woman, yes.

you know who else wears obviously fake locs? white hippies.

fuck you.

  

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44. "right."
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48. "you see it."
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fuck you.

  

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49. "if it makes you feel better"
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51. "i feel fine either way."
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fuck you.

  

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55. "its clear you dont"
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57. "you're right. i'm VERY bothered."
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fuck you.

  

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59. "at least you admit it!"
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good first step!
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61. "yup. i'm very bothered that whitey's tricknology is so thick"
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it's got you caught up in outrage over nothing. b/c i want you save that outrage for a proper target.

fuck you.

  

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64. "oh no its clear you MUST correct the wrong black folk"
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oh so outrage
is so wrong
i MUST correct
i Am SoWhat
alway right
except when i'm wrong
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67. "k."
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fuck you.

  

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92. "RE: k."
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172. "I swear, it's HILARIOUS how conversations trickle down to one letter."
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LOL

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26. "I think it's racist to associate patchouli oil & weed with black folks"
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instead of dirty hippies.


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29. "i'm mad this had to be said"
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way more straightforward than me joking and hinting around it

Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

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30. "Yup. We never had a monopoly on it, despite our neo-soul moments"
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Yeah, hippies culturally approprited Bob Marley (and his dreads) but that lifestyle pre-dates us, LOL.

Biggest sin is that it wasn't funny, not that it was offensive. Joan (RIP) Rivers could have worked it into a better, and probably more vicious, joke.

  

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31. "aint had that to say about Kylie Jenner"
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matter o fact she praised that shit

giant NOPE
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32. "is stereotyping racism?"
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cause if it is, than this was racist.

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34. "only if Blacks are stereotyped to smell like patchouli and weed."
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that stereotype (along w/wearing obviously fake dreds) belongs to hippies.

G & K snarked on Zendaya saying her hair made her look like a hippie.

fuck you.

  

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63. "word."
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~Experience is the currency of the soul.

  

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35. "It's a silly E! show."
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They basically critique award show outfits. No one should take their comments seriously.

  

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37. "about as seriously as sport commentators"
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its unchecked whiteness (c) SoWhat

it needs to be checked
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39. "no, it doesn't."
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b/c there was no race problem w/the comment.

if she'd said Zendaya looked like she smelled of collard greens or callaloo or watermelon...then there'd be a need for checking.

they said Zendaya looked like a stereotypical white hippie.

'patchouli and weed' = white hippie, not Black anything.

the 'patchouli' is the key there. that's the tip-off that the joke is about hippies. and Giuliana's response to Zendaya backs this up - she said the comment addressed Zendaya's 'bohemian chic' look and wasn't about race.

fuck you.

  

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41. "yes there is"
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yes its clear that that idiot got her signals mixed
and
associates all things dreaded with black folk
which to that dumb ass includes patchouli and weed
she doesn't get that benefit of the doubt

WE may know that
its pretty clear
that dumbass is clueless in general

and ONCE AGAIN needs to have a damn seat

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43. "no."
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>yes its clear that that idiot got her signals mixed
>and
>associates all things dreaded with black folk

no.

>which to that dumb ass includes patchouli and weed
>she doesn't get that benefit of the doubt

yeah...no.

>WE may know that
>its pretty clear
>that dumbass is clueless in general
>
>and ONCE AGAIN needs to have a damn seat

naw, she's fine.

fuck you.

  

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45. "k"
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46. "exactly."
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fuck you.

  

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76. "Have you smelled patchouli before?"
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>its unchecked whiteness (c) SoWhat
>
>it needs to be checked
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>that when you die, you rejoice, and the world cries.
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93. "lets try for common sense then"
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this
http://cdn03.cdn.justjaredjr.com/wp-content/uploads/headlines/2015/02/zendaya-oscars-red-carpet.jpg



oh SO clearly looks like

http://41.media.tumblr.com/0f7038612119df1646aab3617fe104ec/tumblr_njexfwO5Nz1tkfnwho1_500.jpg

http://www.hippiedreads.co.nz/pics/large-1398947175.jpg

http://www.hippiedreads.co.nz/pics/small-1396958179.jpg

http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7v47uy2F51r42b10o1_250.jpg

because...because...

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108. "You have a point too. She looks very put together/proper/stylish."
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Hippies are generally disheveled.

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117. "nope insulting hippies was her goal"
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i have no point
outraged black person typing
nothing to see here
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118. "All I see are t... wait... nvrmnd."
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>http://41.media.tumblr.com/0f7038612119df1646aab3617fe104ec/tumblr_njexfwO5Nz1tkfnwho1_500.jpg

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47. "SoWhat is wrong, mostly eveyone else is right"
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they def wouldn't associated weed and tha pach with a white girl rocking dreds or locs, that's something "we" do when we see white hippies.

their comment def was coded with race, Zendaya had a nice response

that should be the end

  

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50. "white ppl also know that patchouli + weed = dirty hippie."
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>they def wouldn't associated weed and tha pach with a white
>girl rocking dreds or locs, that's something "we" do when we
>see white hippies.

they do it too.

>their comment def was coded with race, Zendaya had a nice
>response

it had no race codes in it for the Blacks though. b/c Blacks aren't associated w/patchouli. if she'd said watermelon or green apple or moscato or greens or a government yard in Trenchtown then i'd agree. but b/c i have not ever known patchouli to be stereotypically associated w/white hippies i don't agree that there was any black race coding going on w/the comment.

i think the comment was that Zendaya's locs are obviously fake and poorly done which made her look like other ppl who are known to wear obviously fake locs - hippies. white ones.

fuck you.

  

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52. "RE: hmmm"
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i am thinking now, some of these things you write, are truthy

question are Blacks (in your opinion), in terms of the white gaze, ever seen as hippies

  

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56. "in the white gaze? not really. "
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and they're typically associated w/the Jimi Hendrix look.

https://blackgirlvintagedress.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/brenda-sykes.jpg

http://25.media.tumblr.com/20a439cc9cfcbb549381558d2e0ee75a/tumblr_mf53la5wbg1rlbhxjo1_500.gif

fuck you.

  

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53. "You have a point, patchouli = white hippy with locks."
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Maybe not "dirty" though.

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74. "agreed. maybe not 'dirty'."
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fuck you.

  

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120. "hippies are almost always associated with being dirty"
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54. "i would given benefit of the doubt"
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but after that jiggaboo newcaster fiasco
all i know is enough white folks be aiming and have no clue what the fuck they aiming at

and for a show that is supposed to take aim
and the plea copping Joan did
i get and dont agree with her stance
guess what Joan is dead
and this dumbass as no idea what the fuck shes talking about

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58. "it's like:"
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http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/poetic_pixie_13/4781816/9777/9777_original.jpg

...all the time.

i get it.

fuck you.

  

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60. "LMFAO"
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smell the outrage...

breathe the outrage...

did somebody say dreadlocks? did somebody say weed?

DAS RACIST!!!

*ignores patchouli*

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62. "lol"
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fuck you.

  

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65. "AHA! PATCHOULI"
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see? no racism
lets go home folks



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66. "yep, it was well used racism camo"
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it hid the racial insensitivity so well

white hippies are like boho blacks

u get it???

and guess which group whites are most familiar u with?

u get it???

no, let's outrage all the way out

bc u can't mention weed and dreadlocks without disparaging blacks...how unracist of us to try and monopolize all dreads and weed jokes

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69. "yes...much like guiliani"
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wasnt being racist because obama's half white

right.
okay.
sure.
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70. "haha, yeah those 2 are exactly the same thing."
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91. "yes... of course... Zendaya is half white too!"
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thats what she meant
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82. "Not for nothing, I burn the heck out of these:"
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http://cyberincense.com/ebay_images/incense/nag_champa/100g/patchouli_1.jpg

>*ignores patchouli*


I feel what you're saying, but this equation:

White Woman * (Black Woman + Negative Hair Comments)

is pretty much ALWAYS gonna be interpreted as racist. At least in our current society.

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84. "yup"
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fuck you.

  

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113. "Girl in the background though?"
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Where can I find her!?

______________________________________

Everything looks like Oprah kissing Harvey Weinstein these days

  

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68. "as a member of the "they" group, pachouli and weed is definitely"
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associated with hippies. they may be white, black or otherwise. but those things are associated with hippies and not exclusively to black people.

in this case (and honestly most cases) SoWhat is again right. i don't see the race angle. they were simply trying to make fun of hippies.

  

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72. "yeah, I think SoWhat won me over with his two replies above"
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but I still think Rancic and Osborn should've been more clever or at least in the current social climate, known not to got that route

though unlike SW, I don't think her braids/locs looked cheap

  

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73. "i say the locs were badly done b/c of the visible plats on her scalp."
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but the more i look at them i'm not sure i think they're badly done. they're obviously fake (as in that hair didn't grow from her head) but i think i put too much on it saying they're badly done.

fuck you.

  

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88. "except she didn't say "and" she said "or" "
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and since z clearly identifies as a biracial woman

it seems more like
they were trying to make sure they fully insulted every part of what she identifies with racially
by adding on the weed comment

and since that's the way she identifies, i see no problem with her or anyone taking offense to it that way




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89. "both are associated with hippies."
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And it's clear that's where she was aiming with the comment.

fuck you.

  

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104. "it's not clear to the person it was aimed at"
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probably because she identifies as biracial

and given that she is
well
it's not far-fetched that it was meant that way
and certainly fair for her to interpret it that way

which it seems she did
given her response
which references both
people wearing locs irrespective of race
and stereotypes of black folks wearing them
because she's biracial

it's really fine for her to take offense at both stereotypes and address the racial aspect

and her hair is just fine too

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109. "Her hair is okay. There was no race problem with the comment."
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fuck you.

  

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112. "disagree - she's a (bi)racialized pop figure"
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from coverage of her dad who wears locs
to the aaliyah biopic and scrutiny re: her skin tone
to self-identifying in the media as half-black
to the comparison in the media to the actual white "celebrity" with hippie dreads you keep referencing which z is not wearing
just like what a week ago

they made sure to get it all in
there's definitely a racial aspect
it's just due to her being mediatized as biracial and not solely black




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116. "that's great."
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i'm all out of outrage or care about this fuckshit.
i'm saving my outrage for shit that actually matters.

CPD has a fucking black site in the middle of my city.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/24/chicago-police-detain-americans-black-site

THAT shit is appalling. that the police feel they would get away w/such heinousness. in the middle of the city. and they DID 'get away' w/it for yrs.

now i want to know what the highers up knew and when they knew it. the standard questions - i wanna know if there's a cover up going on. especially if it involved the mayor who's facing re-election today.

it's insanely disturbing that this is going on right here where i live.

i can't believe it.

fuck you.

  

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158. "I feel you"
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And glad to see the runoff is happening

insane but not surprising

During the past 6 months, the micro level crAziness I've encountered just focusing on community level issues.... I don't put anything past city government.... Progressive means nothing.

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162. "right?"
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like...wtf, Rahm???

what.

in the fuck?

i wanna know what he knew and when he knew it.

fuck you.

  

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71. "Speaking of patchouli oil, verdict on the smell/effect?"
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I used to think it was revolting. I have since associated the smell with careless, spirit free loafting and pot smoking, which sounds awesome so the smell is not as bad anymore.

~Experience is the currency of the soul.

  

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77. "I hate the smell of patchouli"
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>I used to think it was revolting. I have since associated the
>smell with careless, spirit free loafting and pot smoking,
>which sounds awesome so the smell is not as bad anymore.

It's huge in the niche fragrance industry. I don't get the appeal though.

  

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78. "People wear it because they fear toxic contaminants in deodrant"
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~Experience is the currency of the soul.

  

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103. "One jawn smelled like bubblegum when she wore it"
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I've been told it smells different on different people

but my brother always wore alot of it

so I had a bias to the smell

but this one jawn I dated smelled like f'n candy

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130. "so you liked it? "
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that's cool haha

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121. "How about a verdict on vetiver?"
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I was at a storeshopping for oils for a diffuser and I was looking at the vetiver among others and this chick looked over my shoulder and told me she hates vetiver because it smells like pachouli to her.

  

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134. "I don't like vetiver either"
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>I was at a storeshopping for oils for a diffuser and I was
>looking at the vetiver among others and this chick looked over
>my shoulder and told me she hates vetiver because it smells
>like pachouli to her.

Smells like burning trees/wood. A fresh/clean version of vetiver is amazing however.

  

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152. "love it..Balenciaga, Like a Prayer cassette"
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>I used to think it was revolting. I have since associated the
>smell with careless, spirit free loafting and pot smoking,
>which sounds awesome so the smell is not as bad anymore.

  

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171. "Balenciaga Pour Homme?"
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>>I used to think it was revolting. I have since associated
>the
>>smell with careless, spirit free loafting and pot smoking,
>>which sounds awesome so the smell is not as bad anymore.
>


http://fimgs.net/images/perfume/nd.13517.jpg


^^^ This??

  

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179. "yup"
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>>>I used to think it was revolting. I have since associated
>>the
>>>smell with careless, spirit free loafting and pot smoking,
>>>which sounds awesome so the smell is not as bad anymore.
>>
>
>
>http://fimgs.net/images/perfume/nd.13517.jpg
>
>
>^^^ This??

  

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75. "ugh. "
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yall are really calling some locs the girl clearly felt were dressy and pretty some 'dirty' locs?

sometimes yall dudes disgust me.


  

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79. "yea the statement was about her hair"
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not really trying to make fun of hippies
she didn't look like one

they were trying to make fun of a hairstyle that she explicitly wore to highlight proudly as a style that can be acceptable anywhere, on the red carpet or wherever
the joke was stupid and fell flat for most people
mainly because well she's not a white person that looks like this

http://www.hippiedreads.co.nz/pics/large-1405118125.jpg

black people, biracial people have surely worn loc extensions before
her hairstyle is associated nowhere with white hippies
and lots of every ethnicities wear all kinds of clearly fake extensions to award shows (as she does) without a mention

she clearly articulated her offense for people of all races who wear locs but specifically pointed out
why should they be associated with weed esp since black people primarily wear this style and the pride she associated with locs was why she was wearing them as a person of color

i don't see what the problem is

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81. "couldn't agree more."
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>yall are really calling some locs the girl clearly felt were
>dressy and pretty some 'dirty' locs?
>
>sometimes yall dudes disgust me.
>
>
>

  

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83. "I said badly done but not dirty."
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And I said that bc of the visible plats. But now I'm not sure I think they're badly done. They're obviously fake though.

fuck you.

  

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86. "word."
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~Experience is the currency of the soul.

  

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94. "oh no just someone else calling them dirty"
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which isnt about race
nope

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80. "pretty sure i can do a quick search on this site and find the same joke"
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with no outrage directed at the person who posted it

  

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131. "please do."
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the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

  

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136. "RE: please do."
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=12406810&mesg_id=12406810&listing_type=search#12407325

  

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141. "flawless mandate..."
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Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

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163. "you know? i'm impressed lol"
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164. "Smooove"
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87. "Same people defending her went in on her last year for the Aaliyah movie"
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She should be defended though.

It was a stupid thing to say.

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95. "i think he actually enjoys it!"
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106. "he loves it."
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115. "He did it for #72. As a professional arguer, getting an about face"
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is a good feeling.

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96. "yall getting to be on some cry wolf ish about cism."
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98. "what is Zendaya, racially?"
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IDK, I don't think it's much of a stretch to assume this wouldn't have been the comment had it been a white celeb

but, also, as has been pointed out

if Joan was alive, and said it

I'm sure it would have been funny

and not much controversy

hard to say if it's racism, or ol' girl stealing Joan's shtick

just wondering what Zendaya self indentifies as

I also remember her being on the show

you'd think they be kinder to a celeb that actually took the time to sit down with them for a taping

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Please don't bring white games into the mix. Thanks.

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119. "Lol there wouldnt have be a comment if she was white, asian, brown"
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with fake dreads? I'm pretty sure there would be a lot of comments about that lol a lot of hilarious ones lol


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97. "She needs to shut the fuck up and eat a sandwich "
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If those locs were on a white chick she wouldn't have made that statement, they would have been " trendy and cool. " The end.

  

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100. "nope nope not the end"
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clearly this was about insulting white hippies

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101. "If they don't understand how this is inherently racist then oh well"
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Meanwhile she got the dragging that she deserved on Twitter. Fuck her.

  

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111. "She does need several sandwiches."
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Several!

And the comment wasn't about race. It was about those obviously fake locs making her look like other ppl who wear obviously fake locs - like hippies. Who also smell like patchouli and weed. If she'd said homegirl looks like she smells like coconuts or jerk sauce or now-and-laters or any black stereotypes then I'd agree that the comment has a race problem.

fuck you.

  

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124. "agreed"
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why is she famous again? because she married that dude from
apprentice? lol i always ask myself that question every time
that i see her. definition of an opportunist.


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105. "really wonder if Joan Rivers would have said this if anyone bats an eye."
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140. "Joan Rivers is dead"
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some people have enough equity to say shitty things and get away with it...



  

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169. "fixed it."
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>some people have enough influence to say shitty things and get
>away with it...

  

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107. "meanwhile.. actual fashion ppl are saying Zendaya killed it"
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http://www.vogue.com/11595337/zendaya-oscars-2015-dress-vivienne-westwood/

  

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110. "the dress is fine."
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>http://www.vogue.com/11595337/zendaya-oscars-2015-dress-vivienne-westwood/

Maybe too bridal but otherwise fine.

I'm not a fan of the fake locs but they're okay. I disagree that they're dirty or unkempt. I think they almost swallow her and I might like the hair more if it were shorter.

Note: Jessica Williams' braid extensions bother me. As do Kylie K's fake locs. But I like Mya's vacation hair.

fuck you.

  

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122. "Am I the only one who didn't know what patchouli oil was???"
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125. "nope"
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first time that i've heard of the shit.

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145. "you guys never watched High Fidelity?"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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128. "It sounds like an MF Doom Special Herb"
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132. "its an oil dirty white hippies love to wear... "
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you prolly smelled it at farmers markets.

if Joan Rivers said it we definitely would laugh it off but this ant life skelator hoe aint Joan Rivers..

she apologized already.

  

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123. "#digyourselfout"
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lol at everyone in here caping up for becky rancic. at ABSOLUTE BEST, it was racially insensitive. and let's be really really super real, it was way worse than that. she basically said dreads don't belong on the red carpet. anyone lining up to defend that should find another website to post on immediately.

i wouldn't even hand her a shovel. dig yourself out, G.

"i smack clowns with nouns, punch herbs with verbs..."

  

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127. "what'd she say about Ava's look?"
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http://www.essence.com/sites/default/files/images/2015/02/22/steve_granitz_ava_duvrnay.jpg

if homegirl has a problem w/locs on the red carpet, i'd think she'd have made that point w/Ava too. b/c Ava also wore locs on the red carpet.

i'm not defending Giuliana (who needs several sammiches) i just can't stand seeing my ppl get all incensed about nothing and play the 'race card' inappropriately. like here.

fuck you.

  

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129. "i don't like that black girl's ethnic hairstyle"
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because it looks like it smells like drugs.

lol. i appreciate the effort you're making in here to make the post go poast, my G, but there's no defending that.

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143. "you're not familiar w/patchouli, i take it."
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right on.

fuck you.

  

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159. "you're not familiar w/weed, i take it."
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everyone else got critiqued on their look. the black girl with dreads got critiqued on what they thought she probably smelled like. and their conclusion was drugs.

you can't defend this. no one can.

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161. "if she'd just said 'weed' i'd be w/you."
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but the patchouli part is the key for me.

patchouli + weed = hippies.

fuck you.

  

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165. "so you're okay with white women critiquing black hair"
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based on which drugs they think it smells like. gotcha.

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166. "I gotta believe y'all playing dumb."
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176. "what's dumb is y'all pretending like you can't understand"
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how people could possibly be offended by it, when everyone involved is able to grasp that point. becky rancic herself called her comments "a large stereotype" and "outrageously offensive." kelly osbourne threatened to quit the show.

this is not about people taking things the wrong way and it's definitely not about hippies. people don't apologize like that or threaten to quit over statements made about offensive hippie stereotypes. it's about white women coming at black hair in an ignorant and disrespectful way. everyone sees it. stop pretending you can't.

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177. "bc people got offended"
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it was a failed joke...

race was not a part of her stereotype at all

but yes stereotypes were used

if anything, this stereotyped whites...poorly

she's mostly guilty of missing the joke mark...

i understand why people are offended...doesn't make it any less stupid

stupidity is common

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178. "Y'all really be believing these fake ass apologies."
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168. "i don't think the comment in this case was racist."
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b/c IMO homegirl was going @ Zendaya for looking like a hippie not b/c she looked too black w/that hair. if she were getting at Z for looking too stereotypically black then i'd think the comment is racist.

as is i have other problems w/the comment/joke. it being racist isn't one of them b/c it wasn't racist.

fuck you.

  

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133. "Making this about race is stupid"
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135. "Pretty much."
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137. "fine lets make it about age"
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shes 17
now
sit the fuck down
i'm tired of yall but this aint about race... blind ass mofos
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138. "its ridiculous. "
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>shes 17
>now
>sit the fuck down
>i'm tired of yall but this aint about race... blind ass mofos

People are trying way too hard to minimize this shit.

  

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147. "like its SO damn hard to go"
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>>shes 17
>>now
>>sit the fuck down
>>i'm tired of yall but this aint about race... blind ass
>mofos
>
>People are trying way too hard to minimize this shit.
>

"damn that was wrong"

but hey we arent ALLOWED to
its "outrage" or "outrage machine"


the MORE they fight against this so called outrage machine
the clearer it becomes
and
the BIGGER the damn deal it became
sit the fuck down then
yes we get it YOU dont give a fuck about this
see your way out of it then
the exit door is fucking open

but its pretty clear
we only get to be outraged when certain folk allow us to be
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139. "nah, let these people continue to trip over their capes... "
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142. "what capes?"
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this shit is a complete non-issue

these idiots get paid to make fun of people red carpet looks...

and while ol girl did look adorable...

her "dreads" did look fake as fuck...

making this about race is SEARCHING for something to be upset about

the worst thing about the joke is that it missed...aka wasn't funny

but anybody with half a brain could figure out this wasn't exactly worth slamming the race card down like it was a domino

niggas really want racial (hyper)sensitivity in shitty insults? really niggas?

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146. "TO YOU"
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listen we get it

the fact that a young black womans hair was insulted

dont make nary a damn difference TO YOU
because hey you aint like her hairstyle anyways


so
sit the fuck down
and LET the REST of US who deemed this something WE DID NOT LIKE
do OUR damn thing

get your ass to the damn "i dont care this isnt a big deal side line"

with this paternalistic imma tell folks whats fucking important and whats racist
crap

MAN yall killing me right about now
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174. "glad u found your outrage"
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but since u have a hard time with nuance...

be mad at whatever part u want to be mad at...just realize it's pretty fucking low on the racial insensitivity scale

that's the whole point of this argument...not that what she said was cool or in good fun..

nope...it was a weak/flat joke that bonked...

bc the it really came down to them looking fake...

yall want people to care about yall baggage...and that's nice...but that forum isn't the one for it...

jesus christ yall are some eggheads

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148. "yup. they do."
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the comment was rude, the joke fell flat, it was insensitive, it was mean-spirited...we can heap on the fair criticisms of the comment.

but it just wasn't racist and to call it that is unfair. plus the ppl doing it lose credibility. and i'd prefer it if we were more careful w/our playing of the race card so that when it's played it has more impact. but if we keep playing it inappropriately it will lose that impact.

we know the story of the Boy Who Cried Wolf. this is that.

plenty other ways to get at Giuliana and defend Zendaya. but saying the comment is racist ain't one of them. or, it's not a good one, at least.

fuck you.

  

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"Oooooh I though patchouli oil what the stuff used in natural hair"


          

I had no idea what it was.
I no longer see this as a racist thing.

  

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144. "Oooooh I though patchouli oil what the stuff used in natural hair"
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I had no idea what it was.
I no longer see this as a racist thing.

  

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149. "FOH, ol Paper Mario and The Thousand Year Door lookin' ass"
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150. "I have no idea who Zendaya is or what patchouli is."
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Patchouli oil sounds like something you'd drizzle over ciabatta rolls while waiting for your pasta to come.

  

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151. "Where I come from: dreads + patchouli + weed = hippies"
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http://www.hippiedreads.co.nz/pics/small-1396958179.jpg

you occasionally find hippie's of color around here, but mostly its dread-having, patchouli, weed, sweat and wet-dog smelling white folks that match that description to a T.

it was incredibly contextually stupid to make those references regarding a young actress at the oscars but i wouldn't automatically assume it was racial.

but it was really corny.


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175. "thank u for having sense, *hugs*"
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Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

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153. "She Apologized [VIDEO]"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zS7U4Dz58O4

Yall feel stuff like this is necessary?

  

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154. "she did the right thing."
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though there was nothing racist about what she said and the stereotype she used wasn't about race (at least not the black race), it's good she apologized to put a lid on the turmoil and 'outrage'.

fuck you.

  

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155. "Twitter got people apologizing everyday. It's unnecessary."
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>though there was nothing racist about what she said and the
>stereotype she used wasn't about race (at least not the black
>race), it's good she apologized to put a lid on the turmoil
>and 'outrage'.

It's trolling at this point.

  

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156. "i agree but sometimes it's better to just apologize"
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to shut up the clucking on twitter.

fuck you.

  

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157. "I don't thnk she even understood what she was apologizing for"
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What is the stereotype that she perpetuated?
That black folks smell like weed and patchouli? Is that really a thing?

She's apologizing because people are offended, especially the lady she made the comment about.

They insulted plenty of people on that show (that's kind of the point of the show).
If that's the reason for the apology, she needs to make quite a few more videos.

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160. "i agree."
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but it's over.

fuck you.

  

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170. "ugh apologies make it worse"
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she's not sorry.

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173. "as apologies go...this was one of the better ones I've seen"
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I don't get people hating on it.

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180. "to the people who say its dumb to be mad about this:"
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How dumb is it to be mad that someone else is mad about something you ain't mad about, lol?

BTW, yeah, I think that shit was racist and ignorant as fuck. That's some incredibly dumb and tone deaf shit to say about a woman of color in a context that already has issues with lack of diversity and is on front street about its portrayal of women of color.

BTW, i also think that there is definitely a regional thing going on too. In places that lack a lot of black folks, dreads may be more associated with hippie white folks. In other parts of the country, clean, professional middle class black people rock dreads and oils, like patchouli.

Either way, she was stupid as fuck, and racially ignorant

  

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