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"Mo'Nique blackballed after Oscar win (link)"


  

          

Mo'Nique: I'm 'difficult', 'tacky' and was blackballed after Oscar win

Precious star who won best supporting actress award five years ago says Hollywood has shunned her for being ‘tactless’ and that parts in subsequent Lee Daniels movies were offered to her then given to Oprah Winfrey

The Oscar-winning actor Mo’Nique has claimed she was “blackballed” by Hollywood following her victorious turn as an abusive mother in the harrowing 2009 Lee Daniels drama Precious.

In an essay to be published in the 27 February issue of the Hollywood Reporter, seen by E! News, the 47-year-old actor said she only found out a few months ago that she had been deemed persona non grata by studios.

“I got a phone call from Lee Daniels,” said the actor. “And he said to me, ‘Mo’Nique, you’ve been blackballed.’ I said, ‘Why?’ And he said, ‘Because you didn’t play the game.’”

The actor reminded her director that she famously did not campaign for her best supporting actress Oscar win in 2010.

Mo’Nique goes on to suggest that her absence from the screen - the actor has just a handful of relatively minor film and television credits between 2009 and last year’s Blackbird - is because she is “difficult,” “tactless” or “tacky”, adding: “That’s why I have my beautiful husband because he’s so full of tact. I’m just a girl from Baltimore. But being from that place, you learn not to let anybody take advantage of you.”

Mo’Nique cites two roles eventually taken by Oprah Winfrey, that of Forest Whitaker’s wife in Daniels’ The Butler and that of Richard Pryor’s grandmother in a forthcoming Daniels biopic, as examples of parts she was initially offered but later discovered she had lost. “They all just went away,” she said.

Daniels issued a statement to the Hollywood Reporter, which reads: “Mo’Nique is a creative force to be reckoned with. Her demands through Precious were not always in line with the campaign. This soured her relationship with the Hollywood community. I consider her a friend. I have and will always think of her for parts that we can collaborate on, however the consensus among the creative teams and powers thus far were to go another way with these roles.”

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/feb/19/monique-im-difficult-tacky-and-was-blackballed-after-oscar-win

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Mo'Nique seems like an asshole. I'm sure she's difficult
Feb 19th 2015
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BET MONEY she thinks Oprah "wanna be her"
Feb 19th 2015
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bad rep for a bad attitude doesn't really sound like 'black-balled'...
Feb 19th 2015
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Right? And guess what publishing this "essay" perpetuates,
Feb 20th 2015
112
*feigns shock*
Feb 19th 2015
4
She didn’t get blackballed, she got Heigled
Feb 19th 2015
5
She literally refused to do press for her film cuz they weren't paying h...
Feb 19th 2015
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Yep, ppl gotta realize they ain't as special as they think they are.
Feb 19th 2015
8
*cough* Terrance Howard *cough*
Feb 19th 2015
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      good example
Feb 19th 2015
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      VERY good.
Feb 19th 2015
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      and in that same breath Cheadle plays the game and does it well.
Feb 19th 2015
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      he also made more than RDJ for the first film
Feb 19th 2015
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           wat?! HOW SWAY?!
Feb 19th 2015
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                When they drew up the intitial contracts
Feb 19th 2015
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                     So did Hustle and Flow try to increase the salary or keep it unchanged?
Feb 20th 2015
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                          he was supposed to make 8 mill for the 2nd film, they offered him 1 mill
Feb 21st 2015
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                               Interesting-- Cheadle did play the role better though
Feb 21st 2015
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                               That's grimey...not mad at him for walking away if that's how it played ...
Feb 21st 2015
131
great post...
Feb 19th 2015
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now she has time to add sheryl underwood to the queens of comedy tour
Feb 19th 2015
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lol!
Feb 19th 2015
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yesssss!!!...lmao!!!
Feb 19th 2015
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Color me shocked. She seems so well mannered and quiet nm
Feb 19th 2015
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she always seemed like the type to think her shit don't stink
Feb 19th 2015
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i love yall sometimes....for the life of me i couldnt remember what she ...
Feb 19th 2015
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yep
Feb 19th 2015
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.
Feb 19th 2015
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lee Daniels hates Black women!!!!!!!!
Feb 19th 2015
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Meet the newest cast member of Hollywood Divas
Feb 19th 2015
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this...won't help.
Feb 19th 2015
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Yep, you can't effectively shame a mob.
Feb 19th 2015
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How the hell is this supposed to help her get off the list?
Feb 19th 2015
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Lol she's an idiot
Feb 19th 2015
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either her advisors aint shit or she's stubborn as hell. prolly both.
Feb 19th 2015
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I bet her advisors did all the right things...
Feb 19th 2015
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blacklisted, blackballed
Feb 19th 2015
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Dealing with a loud mouth, husky BMore chic is a task
Feb 19th 2015
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lol
Feb 19th 2015
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lls
Feb 19th 2015
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I take issue w/your framing.
Feb 19th 2015
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*eats shrimptoast*
Feb 19th 2015
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you just said it all... you just said it all.
Feb 19th 2015
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=)
Feb 19th 2015
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She still husky?
Feb 19th 2015
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^^^^^^^and there is this.
Feb 20th 2015
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Exactly... Its really that simple. Who wants to deal with that?
Feb 20th 2015
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there's not a day in hell where you're gonna get a role over Oprah.
Feb 19th 2015
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Like Beyonce and the Grammy's
Feb 19th 2015
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SOLID point. VERY solid.
Feb 19th 2015
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and there you have it...
Feb 19th 2015
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My industry thinks I'm difficult, so I'm going to publicly bash them. LM...
Feb 19th 2015
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Yes, but Daniels rubs me the wrong way too, here.
Feb 19th 2015
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also realize that the article itself is very poorly written.
Feb 19th 2015
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Right. Articles like this happen when
Feb 19th 2015
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      I had to read it atleast 3 times and even then I had to think hard that
Feb 19th 2015
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Good point.
Feb 19th 2015
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He playing the game...gotta keep the ball rolling or get rolled over...
Feb 19th 2015
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he's like: I want you, they don't...
Feb 19th 2015
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He's probably upset
Feb 19th 2015
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      Right
Feb 19th 2015
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      werd. "i said YOU blackballed. not WE blackballed!!!"
Feb 19th 2015
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           "YOU sick, nigga! WE ain't sick!"
Feb 19th 2015
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           HA!! This made me laugh. LOUD. Thank you.
Feb 20th 2015
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           lol
Feb 20th 2015
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i dont see no specifics here
Feb 19th 2015
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how can you piss everyone off and still win the Oscar?
Feb 19th 2015
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      Oscar voters for acting awards are actors
Feb 19th 2015
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           ok, that makes sense...
Feb 19th 2015
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Does she still do stand-up?
Feb 19th 2015
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Stop with all the conspiracy theorys
Feb 19th 2015
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*theories
Feb 19th 2015
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      I don't even know what conspiracy theorist means I just use it
Feb 19th 2015
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Yeah. She gets no sympathy from me.
Feb 19th 2015
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Yeah, it's included. That was part of the Kevin Hart / Sony Leak info
Feb 19th 2015
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shoulda kept the fat and dropped the attitude
Feb 19th 2015
58
lol
Feb 19th 2015
82
Aw fuck we ain't gonna get that Baps sequel we all wanted to see.
Feb 19th 2015
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Phat Girlz2: the Chinning is in development hell.
Feb 19th 2015
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*resists the urge to make a joke using the words "black" and "ball"*
Feb 19th 2015
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I'm just here so I won't get fined (c)
Feb 19th 2015
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Doint press and promoting a film
Feb 19th 2015
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Eh...That's pretty flimsy. I think they're equally related to the primar...
Feb 19th 2015
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      Actors' contracts generally explicitly
Feb 19th 2015
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           yup
Feb 19th 2015
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                Another thing to consider is the promotional window and scale
Feb 19th 2015
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                     Its actually a year
Feb 19th 2015
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                          Actors aren't doing heavy press for a year PER movie.
Feb 19th 2015
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                               you said promotional window and scale
Feb 19th 2015
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                               Awards season movies are different
Feb 19th 2015
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                                    and lets put this to rest
Feb 19th 2015
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                                         they probably would have expected/[referred for her to put the show on
Feb 20th 2015
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                                              looks like she did alot
Feb 20th 2015
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                                                   if "alot" isn't "everything" she was asked to do, it's not enough.
Feb 20th 2015
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                                                        true
Feb 20th 2015
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Beast Mode isn't paid to promote NFL games....
Feb 19th 2015
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Apparently Monique isn't paid to promote either
Feb 19th 2015
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      Correct again
Feb 19th 2015
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           how many of those people you just quoted are also seen as difficult to w...
Feb 20th 2015
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                hope you put in your two bits about marshawn
Feb 21st 2015
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                     you fell for the media spin...
Feb 21st 2015
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                          all of this^^^
Feb 22nd 2015
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He's not going to be traded or kicked out of the NFL for his antics.
Feb 19th 2015
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you would be correct
Feb 19th 2015
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Do you really not understand the difference?
Feb 20th 2015
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right now Seattle's GM is WAITING on Lynch's decision
Feb 20th 2015
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yea ppl aren't being consistent on this
Feb 20th 2015
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Much easier to replace Monique than Marshawn
Feb 20th 2015
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      and THAT is the difference.
Feb 20th 2015
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      Yup
Feb 22nd 2015
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      Yep. When you're highly valuable to the company....
Feb 21st 2015
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           Kinda like sales people in the day to day
Feb 22nd 2015
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Patrice O'Neal talked about this already.
Feb 19th 2015
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RE: Mo'Nique blackballed after Oscar win (link)
Feb 19th 2015
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Based in the leaked sony emails, Kevin hart needs to be careful
Feb 19th 2015
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yeah righ; how about nobody wants to see you in movies?
Feb 19th 2015
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i actually do want to see more of her
Feb 19th 2015
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I agree with the Empire fit
Feb 19th 2015
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nvmd
Feb 20th 2015
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guess you nobody then, I on the other hand
Feb 19th 2015
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      if she was in demand, she would be casted.
Feb 19th 2015
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           said every white person about minorities always
Feb 19th 2015
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                No, she's just totally forgettable.
Feb 20th 2015
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                     and now you're lying
Feb 20th 2015
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                          Most of her movie and television projects were borderline entertaining
Feb 20th 2015
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                               doesn't make her "forgettable"
Feb 20th 2015
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#teammonique
Feb 19th 2015
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I mean...
Feb 19th 2015
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props to Mo nique
Feb 20th 2015
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She was incredible in Precious. With that said...
Feb 20th 2015
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RE: She was incredible in Precious.
Feb 20th 2015
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"Whiteballed" is the better term
Feb 20th 2015
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oops
Feb 20th 2015
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This might have been a pretty smart move on her part.
Feb 20th 2015
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yup
Feb 21st 2015
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This seems to be common sense everywhere but OKP
Feb 22nd 2015
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we'll see.
Mar 02nd 2015
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so she was supposed to be Cookie? Actually I could see it but I don't th...
Mar 02nd 2015
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definitely not
Mar 02nd 2015
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she may have been thought of, but Taraji is far & away the better
Mar 02nd 2015
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yup plus she isnt fione as taraji
Mar 02nd 2015
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      i'd watch it just to see her kick Siddibe down the steps again.
Mar 02nd 2015
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was she supposed to be the female lead in EVERY Lee Daniels project?
Mar 02nd 2015
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1. "Mo'Nique seems like an asshole. I'm sure she's difficult"
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She wanted to be paid to do press for the film, and she's not a box-office draw. Why WOULD you cast her?

  

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2. "BET MONEY she thinks Oprah "wanna be her""
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3. "bad rep for a bad attitude doesn't really sound like 'black-balled'..."
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..sounds more like someone who wore out their welcome.


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112. "Right? And guess what publishing this "essay" perpetuates,"
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Way to rebuild that career by pouring gasoline on your pity party.

  

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4. "*feigns shock*"
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5. "She didn’t get blackballed, she got Heigled "
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Oh, you’re *that* person?

Cool. You’re replaceable. Bye.

It’s troubling how she confuses being ‘tactless’ with letting people take advantage of you.

I mean, shit, I get it. I’ve traditionally been the guy who said what he felt exactly how I felt it, or, at best, tempered shit that I wanted to say that was too awful to get away with into something that allowed me to speak my mind without going too far over the line.
Well, guess the fuck what? That shit didn’t help me all that much. Hell, it bit me in the ass at my current job not long ago and I had to really play that game to dig my way out. Sometimes the price of success can be as simple as either keeping your mouth shut or becoming a diplomat who works the angles.

If I’ve learned anything over the years is that winning the argument and making sure people know you’re right and they’re wrong usually doesn’t win much of anything. She doesn’t need to be a doormat in order to utilize a little more tact.

  

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6. "She literally refused to do press for her film cuz they weren't paying h..."
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dumbass

  

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8. "Yep, ppl gotta realize they ain't as special as they think they are."
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11. "*cough* Terrance Howard *cough* "
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Dude practically gave his Iron Man role to Cheadle.

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16. "good example"
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19. "VERY good."
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27. "and in that same breath Cheadle plays the game and does it well. "
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30. "he also made more than RDJ for the first film"
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74. "When they drew up the intitial contracts"
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#BasedMayne was a bigger box office draw and a more reliable actor than Robert Downey Jr - remember, this is when RDJ was JUST getting back in the saddle after his period of drug abuse and rehab.

So yeah, Terrence Howard was the highest-paid performer in that film.

When it came time to do Iron Man 2, Marvel intended to pay RDJ a LOT more money than on part 1, as he deserved it, and were looking to find ways to renegotiate Terrence Howard to a lower salary with less screen time (Howard had signed a three-picture deal - at a certain per-picture salary - with Marvel to appear in all the Iron Man films).

Howard and his people balked, and add to this that apparently director Jon Favreau didn't exactly enjoy working with #BasedMayne and he was eventually replaced.

  

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114. "So did Hustle and Flow try to increase the salary or keep it unchanged?"
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Was he just trying to stick to the contract or did he try to up the ante?

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129. "he was supposed to make 8 mill for the 2nd film, they offered him 1 mill"
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130. "Interesting-- Cheadle did play the role better though "
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I wonder if he did it for 1mil.

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131. "That's grimey...not mad at him for walking away if that's how it played ..."
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39. "great post..."
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7. "now she has time to add sheryl underwood to the queens of comedy tour"
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25. "lol!"
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86. "yesssss!!!...lmao!!!"
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9. "Color me shocked. She seems so well mannered and quiet nm"
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10. "she always seemed like the type to think her shit don't stink"
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being difficult to work with has deaded the careers of many an actor. She's no different.

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12. "i love yall sometimes....for the life of me i couldnt remember what she ..."
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at the time
but i knew she did SOMETHING not right
during the precious stuff

that was it
she would not do press
she is a dummy

doing junkets is part of the job.

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13. "yep"
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Did the small fish big pond thing
Thought since she's was a big fish in the small comedy pond she earned her stripes
...not so much
You kinda start again
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61. "."
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Thu Feb-19-15 04:56 PM by PimpTrickGangstaClik

  

          

.

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14. "lee Daniels hates Black women!!!!!!!!"
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*eye roll*


But on topic, I had forgotten all about Monique myself smh. That is sad to see someone go from Oscar winner to non existent and he career has definitely declined. I wonder if that's why he talk show got cancelled too

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15. "Meet the newest cast member of Hollywood Divas"
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sounds like some Paula Jai Parker bullshit...

http://soundcloud.com/deemack1

  

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17. "this...won't help."
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LOL

if she wants to get in w/Hollywood she's gotta at least pretend to be contrite. she's gotta go beg for their grace. if she can't and i understand if she can't then she needs to just do som'n else w/her life.

fuck you.

  

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35. "Yep, you can't effectively shame a mob."
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18. "How the hell is this supposed to help her get off the list?"
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20. "Lol she's an idiot"
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21. "either her advisors aint shit or she's stubborn as hell. prolly both."
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unfortunately, it sounds like she has no awareness of what exactly she did wrong
i'd love to read studio emails about her situation

  

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40. "I bet her advisors did all the right things..."
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she just fucks it up anytime a mic is live...

  

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22. "blacklisted, blackballed"
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why does doomsday-like shit need to be prefixed with 'black'
shit is so psychological man.

nique just needs to find another lane.

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23. "Dealing with a loud mouth, husky BMore chic is a task"
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It ain't for the weak. Luh y'all though

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24. "lol"
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34. "lls"
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Coolin...

  

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36. "I take issue w/your framing."
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You may be joking and I'll give you that. However, it has often been posited that dealing with surly, disrespectful, difficult women is a sign of strength (especially, but not exclusively in the black community, I'm looking at you Marilyn/Sheryl)

Nah - b

Adults gotta be adults. If you're an asshole, you're an asshole, stop placing the onus on others to 'deal with you' as a show of their strength.

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44. "*eats shrimptoast*"
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He ain't lyin!! (c) Morris the Barber

Streets won't let me chill.

  

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46. "you just said it all... you just said it all."
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47. "=)"
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49. "She still husky?"
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I remember she lost a ton of weight around the time she had that BET talk show. Did she gain it back?

All the other adjectives you mentioned fit her to a T though.

  

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100. "^^^^^^^and there is this."
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105. "Exactly... Its really that simple. Who wants to deal with that?"
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26. "there's not a day in hell where you're gonna get a role over Oprah. "
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and I don't mean that by saying O controls hollywood but who can demand a multicultural audience like Winfrey?


The prospect of middle aged white women attending a movie cant be beat.

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41. "Like Beyonce and the Grammy's"
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55. "SOLID point. VERY solid."
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63. "and there you have it..."
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28. "My industry thinks I'm difficult, so I'm going to publicly bash them. LM..."
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Like is she deranged, how is this the solution to your problem. This is literally the opposite of the things you should be doing. Being an asshole comes with consequences. Accept them or stop being an asshole.

men are so simple, and so subject to present necessities, that he who seeks to deceive will always find someone who will allow himself to be deceived. (c)Niccol Machiavelli

  

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29. "Yes, but Daniels rubs me the wrong way too, here. "
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I'm not understanding why he'd put out a statement, stating that while he considers her a friend, she did such and such wrong. Just seems like an odd thing to say so publicly. Why not say nothing at all?

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31. "also realize that the article itself is very poorly written. "
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33. "Right. Articles like this happen when "
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there's zero original reporting. If you're citing an outlet that cites yet another outlet, then the telling of the story stales. Like, what's the effing point?

Lazy journalism. It's been happening increasingly and it drives me crazy.

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53. "I had to read it atleast 3 times and even then I had to think hard that"
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maybe that wasn't exactly what Daniels said.

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37. "Good point."
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He might be trying to play both sides of the fence and hoping she ain't smart enough to catch on.

I think this was a bad calculation, on his part.

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38. "He playing the game...gotta keep the ball rolling or get rolled over..."
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42. "he's like: I want you, they don't... "
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and since "they" cut the checks....

  

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45. "He's probably upset"
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his private comments made to her were presented publically, much less in the context of her throwing dirt on Hollywood.

  

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51. "Right"
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She didn't have to say, "Lee Daniels told me". She could have left it at, "A producer in Hollywood told me...".

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65. "werd. "i said YOU blackballed. not WE blackballed!!!""
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she effing the game up.


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76. ""YOU sick, nigga! WE ain't sick!""
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111. "HA!! This made me laugh. LOUD. Thank you."
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121. "lol"
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Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

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32. "i dont see no specifics here"
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"demands were not in line with the campaign" uhmmm

lotta replies got it figured out tho

okay



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43. "how can you piss everyone off and still win the Oscar? "
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did she refuse press AFTER she won?

  

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50. "Oscar voters for acting awards are actors"
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They are a small subset of the Hollywood population. They will have less sway in decisions about productions and casting than producers/directors/writers/studios. Maybe?

Just spitballing here.

  

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57. "ok, that makes sense..."
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48. "Does she still do stand-up?"
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That could explain why she feels so free to write this article.

  

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52. "Stop with all the conspiracy theorys"
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54. "*theories"
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68. "I don't even know what conspiracy theorist means I just use it"
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because other people do when they want to write someone off.(pun intended).

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56. "Yeah. She gets no sympathy from me."
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Bigger and better have, and still do all the things she refused to do to support the film. Hell, Oprah was ALL UP AND THROUGH those press junkets for Selma.

It's cost of entry and, I believe, is included in contracts with the studios, but don't quote me on that.

Will
Tom
Julianne
Julia
Angelina

AWLADEM... make the requisite rounds to promote their films. I'm not sure why she thought she was special, but I hope her lesson is learned and that she's able to make her way back.

  

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67. "Yeah, it's included. That was part of the Kevin Hart / Sony Leak info"
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His pay for TLAM2 included him going to all the junkets, but they wanted to leverage his social media presence to get him to tweet about the movie. He asked for another $2MM. They called him a whore (in leaked emails).

*Jews you*

"this is okp tho, reading is completely optional" (c) desus

Proceed with caution. I am overtly racist.

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58. "shoulda kept the fat and dropped the attitude"
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82. "lol"
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59. "Aw fuck we ain't gonna get that Baps sequel we all wanted to see."
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89. "Phat Girlz2: the Chinning is in development hell."
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62. "I'm just here so I won't get fined (c)"
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Folks are saying she is in the wrong for not doing press for the movie.
She says she isn't getting paid to attend so she didn't go (I think that's the basic story?)

How is this different than the Marshawn situation?
I was pro-Beastmode, but this is making me think and reconsider a little.

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64. "Doint press and promoting a film"
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are more directly related to duties of an actor than a football player giving interviews. Actors have to promote their projects to the public. Either by giving interviews or appearing on talk shows. That's part of how the movie is marketed and makes money.

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69. "Eh...That's pretty flimsy. I think they're equally related to the primar..."
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It's debatable how much value NFL interviews vs movie interviews add to the company's profits.
I guess maybe the NFL is a stronger brand on it's own and thus doesn't live a die by the amount of media attention brought on any one individual.

But the key thing to focus on is that only other people are benefiting from their labor.
By doing interviews, Marshawn and Monique are not compensated at all. But their labor on the press circuit solely benefits the NFL and the movie.
They are exactly the same in that regard

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77. "Actors' contracts generally explicitly"
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require them to do some level of press for the film, like "yes, this is part of why we paid you and you have to do this." The NFL sort of has the same thing - hence "I'm just here so I won't get fined" - but with movie stars and movies it's a far more intense situation; depending on your contract, your ability to promote the film does directly affect an actor's earnings (if they are a producer o nthe film or have a deal that guarantees them backend pay). It also affects your ability to get your next job and the job after that - long term contracts are very, very rare in Hollywood in 2015.

Oscar campaigning - which is what Mo'Nique _didn't_ do for "Precious" - is a little bit different and a lot more intense, because "playing the game" means party, party, dinner, gathering, screening, party, gathering, etc. ad nauseum from November to March. It's technically above and beyond what the contract calls for,m but it's to the actor's benefit if they are the one nominated to go to all these things, press the flesh, and try to win all of these awards for both themselves and the movie.

It's all political, and not necessarily easy, but it comes with the territory of starring in a film that's going up for awards season.

  

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78. "yup"
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Lupita N played the game PERFECTLY. She wore stunning clothes at minor awards shows and was gracious in heartfelt interviews to build anticipation for the main event - the Oscars. We wanted to see what she'd wear and hear what she'd say in her acceptance speech. That is how to win the award AND set one's self up for future gigs.

Octavia Spencer did a good job too - and she's still working today in part bc of that. Monique fucked up the game.

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81. "Another thing to consider is the promotional window and scale"
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Marshawn has to do press on a weekly basis from August until January basically - after physically working his ass off at games and practice. You'd get tired of that shit too after six months.

An actor does press for maybe 1-2 weeks before their movie comes out and sporadically during awards season. And popular actors have MAYBE 3 films a year max.

6 months of press is a lot fucking more than 6 weeks of press.

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91. "Its actually a year"
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Leading up to the awards

Across cities and around the world first for film fests then for openings
Then comes the six weeks of awards

In a way many I ncluding fassbender for 12 yrs feel like they already did it put in promotional work for the film
And feel silly campaigning for themselves
And want to let the work speak
But it's really even more bullshit more intense on top of the wringer they already went through
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95. "Actors aren't doing heavy press for a year PER movie."
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That's just not true. They have a couple of red carpets for openings and the two weeks leading into the premier in each country. a smattering of appearances here whether other than that on a red carpet or two. It's no where near the amount of media availability required post game and during training camp for a 1st string nfl player.

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96. "you said promotional window and scale"
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That is the true window and scale
And one year is under scaling it for some movies
And yes many actors ride hard through the initial part
Esp actors in primary roles
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97. "Awards season movies are different"
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You're pretty much booked every day from November 1 to whichever day in Marc hthe Oscar actually are.

You're expected to attend every dinner, graciously accept every preliminary award, sit with THR, sit with Deadline, etc. It's for real.

  

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98. "and lets put this to rest"
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here are the awards and press she was present for that i could find with a quick search


frankly she did pretty damn good

heres a timeline going backwards starting from the awards season in 2010:
consider these from Mar to Jan 2010
Academy Awards
Independent Spirit Awards
D.I.V.A Awards
NAACP Awards
SAG
PGA
Golden Globes
Film Critics Awards
Critics Choice Awards

screenings/press
Nov 2009
general press portraits were available for publicity on the publicity circuit
AFI Fest

Sept 2009
BET Awards

Oct 2009
NY Time portraits

she skipped the NYFF she was in Atlanta
was on the phone doing press for a washington post article in May
while lee was at the TFF because she was filming the Mo’Nique show
odds are the NYFF was for the same reason


Jan 2009
Sundance

so...what are they complaining about?
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99. "they probably would have expected/[referred for her to put the show on"
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hiatus so that she could campaign, and she didn't want to because she needed to make money. I'm sure that is the key issue, because part of the issue is that she wanted to be paid to campaign.

Because skipping the NYFF probably isn't a good idea.

I also understand that she skipped a lot of the screenings, dinners, parties, etc. she was expected to attend.

  

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116. "looks like she did alot"
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sounds like its bullshit


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117. "if "alot" isn't "everything" she was asked to do, it's not enough."
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That's how those things go.

  

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119. "true"
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esp if you arent a favorite to begin with

we on the understand need to understand that this is very similar to Marshawn
it isnt right or fair
and proceed in the same manner that Marshawn was treated
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66. "Beast Mode isn't paid to promote NFL games...."
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and he is fined when he doesn't fulfill his obligations after games.

I could see if BM was on an indie squad trying to drum up a fan base to sell tickets but that isn't the case.

all that being said... if he gets cut and no one picks him up due to his stance on the press, I could see the similarities.

  

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70. "Apparently Monique isn't paid to promote either"
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And instead of getting fined, she is barred from future work.

Marshawn has an advantage since his services are in much higher demand than Monique's

>and he is fined when he doesn't fulfill his obligations after
>games.
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>I could see if BM was on an indie squad trying to drum up a
>fan base to sell tickets but that isn't the case.
>
>all that being said... if he gets cut and no one picks him up
>due to his stance on the press, I could see the similarities.
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92. "Correct again "
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"But, as I've previously noted on this blog, there's been a growing resentment of the Oscar campaign process by more and more Hollywood artists, who are "fed up with the parade of glad-handing that has come to define the fall-to-winter awards season," as GoldDerby.com put it 2 years ago, the last time I wrote about this; the countless events, appearances, interviews, and receptions that are apparently expected from those who hope to make the nominations short lists, as well as win the coveted statue.

For example, during the awards season last year, Michael Fassbender joined the chorus, stating firmly in a GQ interview that he wouldn’t be campaigning for an Oscar nomination for his much-ballyhooed performance in "12 Years A Slave."

You might recall similar previous statements from others before him, made during recent awards seasons:

- David Cronenberg: "Every year I try to be as disconnected as possible... The people who are releasing the movie get excited, they want you to do more, and you understand it because the awards can maybe get more people to see the film… However, it is all bullshit, it is all annoying and it is all very problematical."

- Joaquin Phoenix: "I think it's total, utter bullshit, and I don't want to be a part of it … It was one of the most uncomfortable periods of my life when 'Walk the Line' was going through all the awards stuff and all that. I never want to have that experience again."

- Anthony Hopkins called the process "disgusting."

- Matt Damon: "It's ridiculous … We had Harvey Weinstein with us for 'Good Will Hunting,' and he's the guy who really sees the matrix when it comes to this stuff and I think we did a cocktail party. That was it … It's been really shocking to me to see what's happened , and not all good."

And there's more... but you get the gist.

Maybe one obvious point to note is that these dissenters were all white and male. Could that be something worth considering in all this? The privilege to be able to make these kinds of statements publicly, and seemingly not be censured for doing so - at least, from where I'm sitting. Certainly not as much as Mo'Nique was in 2009/2010.

In response to Fassbender's refusal to play the Oscar campaign game, his "12 Years A Slave" director, Steve McQueen backed his actor, stating, “His campaign is on screen. That’s Michael Fassbender’s Oscar campaign. He’s done his thing. That’s it.”

Mo'Nique said pretty much the same thing when she was nominated, but that didn't help her cause very much"



Interesting how folks are changing their tune

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125. "how many of those people you just quoted are also seen as difficult to w..."
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..no one really wants to do press for films, but its a necessary evil in the business of entertainment.

if you sign on for the role, you should be signing on for the work before, during, and after the filming is completed (including the press/promo work needed). however, that's not always the case. since hollywood is largely a game of favors, its always in their best interest to play nicely.

last time i checked, there was nothing about monique's skills as an actress that put her in the a-list category (not even that oscar for supporting actress).

if she wants it, she can get it. she's just gonna have to put in the work.

if she doesn't want to play the game, that's fine. just stop complainin' about it.


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126. "hope you put in your two bits about marshawn"
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being "difficult to work with"


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127. "you fell for the media spin..."
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..marshawn lynch doesn't have a rep as bein' "difficult to work with."

while the media has exaggerated his reluctance to give interviews, his rep as a player (on the field & off) are stellar. he's the consummate team player, shows up for work on time & prepared, and all of his peers regard him as one of the best players in the league. even the media admits that while he's reluctant, their interaction with him is always professional & polite. he has never been a disruption to them or his peers/employers.

*anyone trying to compare his situation to mo'nique's clearly doesn't understand the significant differences & details involved with their particular line of work in entertainment. one of the major differences is that the media coverage for each is that while the media is always digging for dirt, press coverage for film isn't typically divisive & disruptive.

every nfl contract has a stipulation that requires a certain amount of time allotted for press. while both industries employ a considerable amount of pr/media to sell tickets, actors aren't always required to do so.

mo'nique, on the other hand, has never had a stellar rep. her personality hasn't endeared her to anyone (peers or media) outside of her inner circle. she's known as being difficult to work with for EVERYONE, including her fellow cast/directors/producers.

its one thing to have the press disappointed at being denied an opportunity to interview you with a ton of redundant questions, but its something entirely different when most of your peers dread having you on set because of the constant drama that comes along with working with you. mo'nique made a name for herself as bein' funny, yet difficult. unfortunately, she's become so difficult that most entertainment professionals avoid working with her because they don't think its worth it overall.

and this is in a business that has a long history of difficult characters & personalities (men AND women). so if she's not gettin' work because of her terrible attitude/demeanor, its far more likely that she's simply burned too many bridges or caused too many issues to be considered valuable to production.


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134. "all of this^^^"
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75. "He's not going to be traded or kicked out of the NFL for his antics."
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Bc his skill level is off the chart. Teams and the league put up with him bc he is a special talent. Monique is not as special in Hollywood as BM is in the NFL. She has learned the hard way.

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85. "you would be correct"
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They gonna hem and haw though
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101. "Do you really not understand the difference?"
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Mo'Nique is essentially an independent contractor.

Marshawn works for a company.

Big difference.

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109. "right now Seattle's GM is WAITING on Lynch's decision"
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on if he wants to come back.



  

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107. "yea ppl aren't being consistent on this"
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if it's true that doing press was in her contract then it's pretty much no difference
it's also weird that ppl are trying to argue that lynch/monique aren't being paid to do press when everything in your contract is a condition for compensation

of course lynch value to the seahawks/NFL >>>>>>>>>>>>> monique's value to lee daniels right now
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110. "Much easier to replace Monique than Marshawn"
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Top-10 talented athletes don't grow on trees. Best believe if Marshawn was a bum he'd have been cut and bounced out of the league. Actresses, on the other hand, are all over the place. Monique must have thought she was top ten, but got cut off the squad. Apparently she wasn't as good as she thought. She should have did the promo if she wanted to further her career.

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113. "and THAT is the difference. "
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Marshawn doesn't NEED Seattle
Seattle NEEDS him

He doesn't have to play that game.

Mo'Nique needs to play the game or else...

  

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132. "Yep. When you're highly valuable to the company.... "
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.... You have way more leeway. That's true even with everyday folks. My uncle was in a position where he wasn't easily replaceable due to being really good at his job, which happened to be a position not just anybody could do. He had enough leverage to where the company would cut him slack compared to the workers that could get replaced. He wasn't the type to abuse his situation but he did have them by the balls to where he could've if he wanted to.

The type of stunt Mo'nique pulled is the thing an A-lister whose starring roles are guaranteed to get butts into theater seats has a better chance of pulling. She must have thought that Oscar win was going to give her leverage. Unfortunately she didn't realize that making these studios even richer is the only way you can pull the diva moves and even then you don't want to go too overboard.



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136. "Kinda like sales people in the day to day "
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Folks that get the sales for the business usually do whatever they want. 3 hr lunches, feet on the desk, coming in late and leaving early. It's all good if you bring in the numbers.

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72. "Patrice O'Neal talked about this already. "
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The whole playing nice for hollywood thing. Not monique I mean.

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73. "RE: Mo'Nique blackballed after Oscar win (link)"
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So

She's being cut from Lee Daniels movies and Lee Daniels is like... IT AINT ME is THEEEMM..

and people believe that? believe that given any opportunity he is gonna NOT choose Oprah?

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79. "Based in the leaked sony emails, Kevin hart needs to be careful"
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He does the press but he tried to charge Sony for doing a social media post to support a movie he was in.

I think part of it is that studios need to wise up and include ALLL this shit in contract negotiations: a minimum number of press appearances, a minimum for tweets, etc. nix the "mutually agreed upon" language and make the actors sign off on a baseline of support. Anything else is bonus.

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80. "yeah righ; how about nobody wants to see you in movies?"
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83. "i actually do want to see more of her"
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just thinking, she would be a great fit for Empire but,
doesn't sound like that's going to happen anytime soon.


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87. "I agree with the Empire fit"
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>just thinking, she would be a great fit for Empire but,
>doesn't sound like that's going to happen anytime soon.
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123. "nvmd"
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84. "guess you nobody then, I on the other hand"
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Am somebody
Cast her Hollywood

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88. "if she was in demand, she would be casted."
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93. "said every white person about minorities always "
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Nice way to tow the line and up hold the great white way though
Keep doing you


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104. "No, she's just totally forgettable. "
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But you keep being you.

  

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115. "and now you're lying"
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but keep typing though

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118. "Most of her movie and television projects were borderline entertaining"
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She gave an outstanding performance in precious as an abusive mother but you really think she has range to do other stuff? Nope.

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120. "doesn't make her "forgettable""
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again thats just a lie
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90. "#teammonique"
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just because.

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94. "I mean..."
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I'm looking at pimptrick like word?
Cool

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102. "props to Mo nique"
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hollywood is wack and cornball and racist on top of it all. don't even give those jive sucker turkeys anything extra.

lee daniels is a decent director and thats all turkey ain't great.

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103. "She was incredible in Precious. With that said..."
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Hollywood - like any other industry - has a game you have to play.

Plenty of notable GREAT actors, from Terrance Howard, to Tom Sizemore, have been 'blackballed' for their actions and their ability to work with other people. Nobody wants to work with a shitty person, especially if at the end of the day that person doesn't exactly move tickets. Someone might put up with like, Mark Wahlberg or Jennifer Lopez (no idea if they are bad to work with - just saying box office numbers) because they sell tickets.

Mo'Nique doesn't.

She was a supporting actor with a great role and she played it amazingly.

Take a stroll through Wikipedia supporting actresses to see that's not a golden ticket to get a bunch of other movies.

She seems like a nightmare and she didn't play the game.

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108. "RE: She was incredible in Precious. "
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I hated her in Precious... that's how well she played that roll



  

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106. ""Whiteballed" is the better term"
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122. "oops"
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oop

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124. "This might have been a pretty smart move on her part."
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Lee Daniels is poppin right now because of Empire.

She isn't.

The story isn't as interesting without his name.

So here we are.

It makes rounds on social media.

She does a sit down interview with someone worth their weight.

May lead to a few things.

Who knows.

She doesn't have much to lose.

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128. "yup"
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133. "This seems to be common sense everywhere but OKP"
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If they're whiteballing her anyway, why not?

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143. "we'll see."
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i don't understand what she'll gain by throwing Lee Daniels and several execs @ various studios under the bus by saying they've denied her roles b/c she's allegedly difficult.

but maybe she and her ppl see it where i don't. maybe she'll get hired somewhere b/c of this.

fuck you.

  

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137. "so she was supposed to be Cookie? Actually I could see it but I don't th..."
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show would be as big of a hit...

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138. "definitely not"
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love her but nah


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139. "she may have been thought of, but Taraji is far & away the better"
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choice

  

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140. "yup plus she isnt fione as taraji"
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so half the scenes of the show wouldnt make sense
cookie is FLYYYY
monique wouldnt be able to pull that off

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141. "i'd watch it just to see her kick Siddibe down the steps again. "
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142. "was she supposed to be the female lead in EVERY Lee Daniels project?"
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GTFOHWTBS.

fuck you.

  

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