Other than the 2 big movies.

He got the SNL gig @ age 19. Then starred in big budget comedies and action movies. He recorded a comedy album, I think. He made Delirious and Raw during the time.

When was he a touring stand up comic though? Is his whole stand up career that one album and those 2 movies?? Is his rep as a comic based only on THAT?

fuck you.

He started @ SNL @ 19.

fuck you.

>He started @ SNL @ 19.

fuck you.

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even during the season
i've seen sasheer zamata, michael che, and brooks whelan at clubs doing sets. michael che does them pretty regularly

he probably wasn't touring or doing big dates but he was likely still doing standup sets

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Just assumptions.

fuck you.

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Perhaps stand up is not what he does best. He's a comedic actor and not really a stand up comedian.

fuck you.

>Perhaps stand up is not what he does best. He's a comedic
>actor and not really a stand up comedian.


There's a natural talent required for all kinds of comedy, including standup, but performing a good standup routine takes alot of skill (delivery, pacing, reading the mood of the crowd. etc), which can involve years worth of practice.

Some standup comedians turned actors still do some standup to maintain their skills but Murphy has been completely out of standup for decades now. Him trying to pick it back up during the SNL's 40th IS just like Jordan trying his hand at baseball in his 30's. He likely still has the natural talent but it would take awhile for him to redevelop the skills he'd need.

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fuck you.

>Other than the 2 big movies.
>
>He got the SNL gig @ age 19. Then starred in big budget
>comedies and action movies. He recorded a comedy album, I
>think. He made Delirious and Raw during the time.
>
>When was he a touring stand up comic though? Is his whole
>stand up career that one album and those 2 movies?? Is his rep
>as a comic based only on THAT?

What else does it need to be based on?
His spot was the Comic Strip on Second Ave
That was his work out club
also appeared on Carson a couple times

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his opening monologue was self-deprecating

because of 'Self-Defense' and thinking he was on a cold streak

but he said something crazy, that he had previous that year done 48hrs and Trading Places...

...and then Beverly Hills Cop

the audience reaction made me think they had already seen these movies

so I guess we're talking about a 2 year span

and even when you think about what Chris Rock said

Eddie's characters, for the most part, weren't re-occuring, they were one and dones...

His rep as a comic is, IMO, based on that run starting with SNL to Boomerang

with alot of classic, genius material in between.

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He's working out material that eventually became delirious in this clip. But like others stated, he started out really young in NYC.

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i think him and Colin Quinn waited tables during that time

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The Comic Strip has more footage of his early work there that they haven't put up yet - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snV_tfey4vE

In that clip you see images of several sets of Eddies there.

Talking about recording his first album at the Strip - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9OuqmGdX5Q

From their website - http://www.comicstriplive.com/index.php/about-us/

"Originally the Comic Strip featured comics, singers, magicians and novelty acts. Soon they realized that stand up comedy was the only way to go and the Comic Strip has been a showcase club ever since. The first big star was box office legend Eddie Murphy. The first time Eddie came into the club, he was only 18 and had a lot of swagger...almost too much! Saturday Night Live soon followed and the rest is show biz history. Eddie in turn discovered Chris Rock at The Comic Strip."

The Carson set - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1TKGtai7og

Kinda obvious from the vids, what Eddie has said about his start in stand up and what other comics say, that dude put in work.

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PROOF.

fuck you.

i didn't realize he was so young in Raw and Delirious until i heard someone say that recently
he was basically done with SNL and basic stand up by 22-23
i'm trying think of some one who had a similar career trajectory in comedy.....

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In trying to figure out if he's likely to do it again. I don't think he will bc he hasn't done it enough. He's not a comic - he's a comedic actor.

fuck you.

> He's not a
>comic - he's a comedic actor.

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fuck you.

i don't think he could do it again NOW
cause it's been too long
he stopped doing stand up on his own volition though
every great comic transitions to the less work/more money phase of doing movies
eddie just got there REAL quick cause he was so good

we have to assume if he kept doing stand up he would have had comparably quality for the next decade
i think that's fair given the evidence we have

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niggas doin stand up can't really skip paying dues in the clubs
even if the public hears about em late
you can assume 90% of all comics who blow up did at least 4-8 years in the club, almost every night
most take longer than that and spend years on the road too
but eddie was a beast and he was in NY
and if you count raw and delirious as albums, he did 4 in like 6 years
20 years before comics started doing a special a year.

fuck you.

he was on SNL in 1980, which was before his first stand up album was released.
having done no other tv.
so it would basically mean that he got an agent/rep at a major industry talent agency (of which there are about 4 now, not sure how many in 1980)
who saw him do a showcase show at a big club in NY (the comic strip, catch a rising star, don't think carolines or the cellar were around yet)
which would mean the talent manager at one of those clubs put him on a showcase that got him that agent
having only seen him a few times at open mics, where the talent managers usually watch like 3 guys unless a comic they like with pedigree says to watch somebody specific.
and immediately decided to put him on a showcase show with no rep ahead of prolly a couple hundred other comics who come to the club all the time and are paid regulars (which he couldn't be if he didn't work the club for a while)
who've been in the running to get a showcase spot for a few years and haven't gotten one
it's certainly possible he leap frogged all that by calling people faggots and talking about putting gi joes up his butt.
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there are plenty SNL cast members w/o stand up comedy experience. and some have had limited stand up experience. and some had more.

but my question is beyond his time before SNL.

i want to know how much experience the man has as a stand up.

it's okay if you don't know. your guesses are reasonable and i can come up w/those on my own. again, it's okay if you don't know.

fuck you.

1. Raw and Delirious were pretty seminal as standup shows. folks copied and outright bit those for YEARS (to this day actually). the pacing, the clothes, all that ish

2. if you look, both Raw and Delirious were in huge venues. they look pretty sold out. he obviously had enough clout for folks to come out in droves - especially tight-pocketed black folks who if he was wack wouln't have been shy to let him know

3. as stated elsewhere dude was doing standup shows as a TEENAGER. that is pretty awesome

4. his albums are recordings of his shows. he wouldn't have gotten the deals to have those put out if he wasn't worth the trouble

point being: he earned his rep

>2. if you look, both Raw and Delirious were in huge venues.
>they look pretty sold out. he obviously had enough clout for
>folks to come out in droves

But not 'Girl, I saw him him at Zanie's in Elmhurst last year and he KILLED! We gotta go see his stand up movie!'

fuck you.

w/o Eddie having performed in comedy clubs nationwide.

b/c i wasn't sure that Eddie had done any or very many comedy tours.

now i have learned that he did at least one (Pieces of My Mind Tour 1986).

fuck you.

He didn't spend yrs touring. He's not that comic. His experience is relatively limited. He doesn't have scores of performances from which to draw inspiration/motivation. He's not that comic.

fuck you.

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Again - in my mind he is primarily an actor (and singer). The comic thing was a brief flirtation, it seems.

fuck you.

because it was a flirtation why even do the standup specials?

especialy Raw in 87 at the height of his 80's run

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we all thought it was weird that Eddie didn't use that opportunity to tell at least one or 2 jokes. we wondered why he didn't. it was proposed that maybe he's not funny any more. or maybe HE doesn't think he's funny. i brought up his long career as a comedic actor and his seemingly short career as a stand up comic. i realized i haven't heard of him doing any stand up since Raw in 1987. that's almost 30 yrs. i then figured that stand up is like any other talent - it must be used or it can be lost. if Eddie hasn't done any stand up in nearly 30 yrs i'm not sure he can still do it.

then i made this post asking about his stand up experience. b/c i wonder if when Eddie considers doing stand up if he has a memory bank of performances from which to draw. and if so, how much data is in that bank? so i made this post.

fuck you.

it is a skill that if you step away from it is really hard to get back
like really hard
but for eddie i think he wasnt having fun with it anymore
by 88 there was nothing unique about his comedy
the comic explosion of the late 80's had an effect on him for sure
could eddie do a set today....to be determined
but i honestly think from 87 on he wouldnt really want to talk about his life

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i'm accepting that the man is extremely unlikely to ever work as a stand up again.

b/c where is he going to develop new material? in the smart phone era? where can he go and bomb while he works on his stuff w/o it blowing up the Internet? then again, Seinfeld manages to do it. Rock has done it. Kevin Hart does it. so there are probably places in the world where Eddie could work on his act in relative secrecy. but then again...he's bigger than all of those comics i just listed. so i dunno. and even their stuff has leaked. so i dunno.

still...the more i think about it and look into it the more i'm convinced he won't do stand up again.

fuck you.

Not sure I can call that a "brief flirtation." Dude put in work. It's just his career as a comic actor lasted much longer and was huge so it overshadows his early stand up work.

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fuck you.

i don't see the issue with that

fuck you.

*shrug*

Thanks for your input.

fuck you.

fuck you.

>He didn't spend yrs touring. He's not that comic. His
>experience is relatively limited. He doesn't have scores of
>performances from which to draw inspiration/motivation. He's
>not that comic.

Joan Rivers did the damned thing for like 40 yrs? That's seasoning.

fuck you.

>Joan Rivers did the damned thing for like 40 yrs? That's
>seasoning.

i'm not disputing that Eddie used to be real funny when he made those 2 movies in the 80s.

i'm not even disputing his legend as a comic (though it's kinda a house of cards).

the question i'm asking here is literally - how much stand up experience does the man have?

so far conjectures have been made. reasonable ones, sure. but that's all.

it's okay if you don't know how much experience he has.

fuck you.

>i'm not disputing that Eddie used to be real funny when he
>made those 2 movies in the 80s.
>
>i'm not even disputing his legend as a comic (though it's
>kinda a house of cards).
>
>the question i'm asking here is literally - how much stand up
>experience does the man have?
>
>so far conjectures have been made. reasonable ones, sure.
>but that's all.
>
>it's okay if you don't know how much experience he has.

fuck you.