"The University has determined that recent governmental sanctions pose a significant challenge to its ability to provide a full program of education and research for Iranian students in certain disciplines and programs. Because we must ensure compliance with applicable laws and regulations, the University has determined that it will no longer admit Iranian national students to specific programs in the College of Engineering (i.e., Chemical Engineering, Electrical & Computer Engineering, Mechanical & Industrial Engineering) and in the College of Natural Sciences (i.e., Physics, Chemistry, Microbiology, and Polymer Science & Engineering) effective February 1, 2015."
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5. "fine, still not cool. " In response to Reply # 4
i just dont see what Iran has done to warrant that action.
Has there been any evidence of them developing their uranium enrichment program for hostile purposes (if we ignore the usual israeli moans of displeasure)
and even if they are, so what? i almost believe nuclear balancing would bring stability, crazy as it sounds...
" According to recent reports from the IMF and World Bank, Iran has nearly halved its 40 percent plus inflation rate, is stabilizing its previously plummeting currency, and is projected for positive growth after losing 6-7 percent in GDP between 2012 and 2014,” Dubowitz wrote."
Iran isnt *that much* of a rogue state as much as the media wants us to believe
is UMASS prohibiting Saudi's from doing the same? Pakistanis? Egyptians?
i think its suspect, big bro.
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7. "i was just pointing out that your beef is w/ the policy and with" In response to Reply # 5
UMass' decisions on how to comply w/ said policy.
>i just dont see what Iran has done to warrant that action.
don't make a difference. US sanctions vs iraq were bullshit. US sanctions vs cuba are UBER bullshit. but it is what it is.
company i work for cannot ship or sell certain things to certain countries b/c that is the law.
it's not my company's doing. somebody eff around and sell the wrong hardware or software to one of these countries they going to JAIL.
>Has there been any evidence of them developing their uranium >enrichment program for hostile purposes (if we ignore the >usual israeli moans of displeasure)
eff israel (as a political entity and distorter of foreign and domestic policy). but it is what it is. they can spy on us and do all kinds of shit. fact is they not on a prohibited list because there is no law to that effect.
>and even if they are, so what? i almost believe nuclear >balancing would bring stability, crazy as it sounds...
meh. i think so, too but it ain't happening. no time soon.
>" According to recent reports from the IMF and World Bank, >Iran has nearly halved its 40 percent plus inflation rate, is >stabilizing its previously plummeting currency, and is >projected for positive growth after losing 6-7 percent in GDP >between 2012 and 2014,” Dubowitz wrote."
>Iran isnt *that much* of a rogue state as much as the media >wants us to believe > >is UMASS prohibiting Saudi's from doing the same? Pakistanis? >Egyptians?
all that is immaterial. the law singles out iran (and, i assume, NK). and there's another shit list that china is on for encryption and supercomputers.
egypt and pakistan were allies.
pakistan got the bomba (c) adventure time while the US was busy using them as a front in the war v. afghanistan.
>i think its suspect, big bro.
to play blue eyed devil's advocate, if you have defined xyz country as a mortal enemy, you probably do NOT want them going to school in YOUR country and studying nuclear engineering.
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9. "RE: i was just pointing out that your beef is w/ the policy and with" In response to Reply # 7
>don't make a difference. US sanctions vs iraq were bullshit. >US sanctions vs cuba are UBER bullshit. but it is what it is.
true. this is just residual effects of a bigger issue i have re: our treatment of iran i guess lol.
> >>Has there been any evidence of them developing their >uranium >>enrichment program for hostile purposes (if we ignore the >>usual israeli moans of displeasure) > >eff israel (as a political entity and distorter of foreign and >domestic policy). but it is what it is. they can spy on us and >do all kinds of shit. fact is they not on a prohibited list >because there is no law to that effect. > >>and even if they are, so what? i almost believe nuclear >>balancing would bring stability, crazy as it sounds... > >meh. i think so, too but it ain't happening. no time soon. >
>>is UMASS prohibiting Saudi's from doing the same? >Pakistanis? >>Egyptians? > >all that is immaterial. the law singles out iran (and, i >assume, NK). and there's another shit list that china is on >for encryption and supercomputers. > >egypt and pakistan were allies. > >pakistan got the bomba (c) adventure time while the US was >busy using them as a front in the war v. afghanistan.
all facts, i just used those examples bc we have far more evidence of those countries being implicitly involved in funding/aiding terrorism.
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12. "RE: fine, still not cool. " In response to Reply # 5
and even if they are, so what? i almost believe nuclear balancing would bring stability, crazy as it sounds...
Yeah it sounds crazy but actually isn't, when I recall Kruschev's rhetoric. It was as bad as what we hear today but we made it through. We would have never gotten Purple Rain without the tension though in retrospect.
Taking shots in the dark/that's a bad call Going straight for your head/ gotta saw it off
11. "neither are/do most of the citizens of Iran" In response to Reply # 10 Tue Feb-17-15 09:12 PM by woe.is.me.
"these kids aren't policy makers & have little or no part their government's actions."
or the citizens of Russia. nevertheless, sanctions are intended to indirectly and directly pressure foreign governments into action.
this certainly seems egregious, but i understand the logic of it. I'm curious whether there has been an explicit directive from the government in this regard, to make a private actor treat foreign students this way.
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