My brother use to say that the homeless guy in NYC would probably be a small business owner in any other city. Of course that's an extreme but I have heard a lot of people voice the idea that folks who would be struggling in NY would be killing it in any other city.

Think that's true? Any real world examples? Share your story. (*Paging John Forte*)

I have some classmates who I thought wouldn't be able to hack in NYC but seem to be doing their thing practicing law in ATL.

I think this post may be inspired by that 3 degree temperature yesterday.

IDk. Maybe I should go open up a restaurant in Santa Fe (yes I did just drop a reference to my favorite song from Rent).

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b/c i don't see anything about NYC survival that requires a special skill set unique to that particular city as opposed to Tokyo. or London. or Detroit. or Shanghai.

fuck you.

Let me give you an example. Look at this job listing.

http://soundcloud.com/jobs/2014-12-12-head-of-music-rights-berlin-london-new-york-city-germany

Dope looking job right? There is no use for me even bothering to apply. I'd never get it because they will find someone with that exact experience.

Now imagine if that job was in Richmond, VA. I might apply then because you never know. It's unlikely they would find someone with that sort of experience so in Richmond you'd take what you can get. Heck the job description in Richmond would just be "Lawyer". But because it's in NYC, they can be so specific with the description.




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>Let me give you an example. Look at this job listing.
>
>http://soundcloud.com/jobs/2014-12-12-head-of-music-rights-berlin-london-new-york-city-germany
>
>Dope looking job right? There is no use for me even bothering
>to apply. I'd never get it because they will find someone
>with that exact experience.
>
>Now imagine if that job was in Richmond, VA. I might apply
>then because you never know. It's unlikely they would find
>someone with that sort of experience so in Richmond you'd take
>what you can get. Heck the job description in Richmond would
>just be "Lawyer". But because it's in NYC, they can be so
>specific with the description.

fuck you.

of other places to live.

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to NYC.

fuck you.

There are alot of people here working in a variety of industries making all those jobs highly competitive to get.


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If you're discussing hyper-competitive fields with limited opportunities clustered specifically in that city, then yes, it's going to be hyper-competitive.

fuck you.

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like i said below - it's like me stunting that if i can make it Chicago, Illinois i can OBVIOUSLY make it in Rockford. and that ppl from Decatur, Illinois just can't understand what it takes to make it here.

but i'd sound kinda silly saying that about Sydney, Australia. so i don't.

it makes sense.

fuck you.

"If I can make it in New York, I can make it in Chicago, though the inverse may not be true"

Not necessarily comparing NY to podunk towns, but saying that it reigns supreme among US cities.

*Jews you*

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still - i think you're right.

fuck you.

i'll rule out madrid and london for the special (un?)spoken class system thing i heard about

not that we dont have a class system here

but its (used to be?) penetrable here
LA...
how the houses are built and the car culture
its harder
or...different?

but the i've had friend move there and um...they seem to be doing their thing


we really do have the rich and famous walking around here
accessible on a regular basis
so thats one thing i guess

it puts the hustle on a totally different level i think
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her level of hustle is redonkulous
moving from a country where her destiny as mistress/servant was predetermined

and seeing her sister who stayed with just as much hustle
with less in the end

she helps her out frankly

shes like its NYC and you have a college degree
why arent you president!?
i would be president
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and has ZERO hustle
such a waste. all she needs to do is pick a field and things could work so well for her

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>and has ZERO hustle
>such a waste. all she needs to do is pick a field and things
>could work so well for her


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and even though you are fat now there are men who love fat women
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now compare it to Tokyo.

then do London.

then do Beijing.

and Hong Kong.

fuck you.

The idea is why not go to Ft Lauderdale and be a BAWSE?


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but again educated here

SVP of a bank
which apparently is a dime a dozen title?
dunno

Hong Kong though?
man...


but thats a make it here make it anywhere thing

tokyo
had another friend went to japan
height of the hiphop craze late 90s

he lived off a woman

so i dunno dude i dunno
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for MOST industries NY is more competitive than anywhere else
besides the sheer NUMBER of people here, this city also attracts the best and brightest, unlike other big cities that are just...big.

i don't think people who fail out here would nec. "make it" other places
but if you can make it here, most other cities should be a cakewalk for you

Sticking to the entertainment biz for the purposes of this...

NYC is a center of the entertainment business along with London, L.A and a handful of other cities worldwide. If you "make it" outside of these places, you're likely to only be big on a local scale... I'd argue that doesn't actually constitute "making it" on anywhere near the same level.

Competition is higher, but standards are higher too. The person who became a local hero in Greensboro doesn't necessarily have the quality to become a hero nationally or globally... but a person that becomes a local hero in NYC probably does.



>Let me give you an example. Look at this job listing.
>
>http://soundcloud.com/jobs/2014-12-12-head-of-music-rights-berlin-london-new-york-city-germany
>
>Dope looking job right? There is no use for me even bothering
>to apply. I'd never get it because they will find someone
>with that exact experience.
>
>Now imagine if that job was in Richmond, VA. I might apply
>then because you never know. It's unlikely they would find
>someone with that sort of experience so in Richmond you'd take
>what you can get. Heck the job description in Richmond would
>just be "Lawyer". But because it's in NYC, they can be so
>specific with the description.
>
>
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If you're an executive at Capital One, you've made it in banking. In Richmond.

You can earn and live well anywhere; I don't think that's in dispute. I thought the OP was asking if you can get to the top of the pile in NYC, does that qualify you for top of the pile elsewhere and does the reverse work too?

I've worked for major banks in London for the last 10 years and 'breaking in' was the most difficult bit when I moved from Bristol despite having worked in financial services there too (equiv Richmond > NYC move, I guess) - if I were to go back to Bristol, I'm pretty confident I'd walk straight into any financial services organisation and, within reason, pick my salary just because of the 'glamorous' and 'trusted' companies that are now on my resume.

My take is that if you're an executive at Goldman Sachs on Wall Street you can send your CV to any other bank in the world and your foot is already in the door.

If you're an executive at Capital One in Richmond, you're going to have to prove yourself a bit further if you want that job at Goldman.

The "NYC homeless dude = another town's business owner" is sensationalist bull though.


>If you're an executive at Capital One, you've made it in
>banking. In Richmond.

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If you're a VP at the Martin Agency you can go anywhere you want in Advertising. Ditto, being a VP at Altria. Finance is different because the ALL of the top firms are NY (or London, or Hong Kong or whatever)

Yeah, there are places you can be wildly successful in a lot of cities, but not on the scale of NYC, London or Tokyo.

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but not to places like Mexico City? Johannesburg? Tokyo?

fuck you.

There are more opportunities in NYC than most other cities. It's easier to meet people who are in a position to help you because "influencers" are more accessible.

NYC also has CUNY which is an INVALUABLE resource...low cost, non-selective institutions that actually provide a quality education. CUNY is a big part of the reason that NYC has such high upward mobility.

Mexico City?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Autonomous_University_of_Mexico

fuck you.

I'm not talking about elite schools. I'm talking about good schools that accept almost everybody. Peasants aren't going to National Autonomous University of Mexico unless they're exceptional. Any nigga who gets a hs diploma or GED has a shot at a decent education at a CUNY school and it won't cost them much.

i understand that Pittsburgh doesn't have one. and i bet Portland doesn't.

but what about Barcelona? Tokyo?

let's compare apples and apples instead of comparing apples and pebbles.

fuck you.

it's easier for a person of humble beginnings to move up a class or two without being exceptional in NYC than in most other American cities. Easier than in London or Seoul too. Can't speak on the rest of the world.

vs. making it in Springfield, Illinois.

i get it.

fuck you.

I'm arguing that it's EASIER to make it in NYC than Topeka, but you seem to be arguing with me for the sake of arguing with me.

fuck you.

as many pegs as possible

he is very tortured by the NYC attitude that this place is unique, which it is, as all places are, but since New Yorkers also take this uniqueness to be superior, it fuels SoWhat's desire to come into posts like this and beat everyone into submission that NYC is not all that

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here for dis.

but it's shit. and there's shit all over the world, not just in NYC.

fuck you.

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although I don't recall a proverb with a mail-room

so many folks i know who street-teamed are music journos, a&rs, manage their own successful artists

but you also have a lot of old heads that need to let go and move on. lol

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