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Lardlad95
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"Did we lose a war or something? Single Men don't qualify for shit. "


  

          

Also known as the "I finally got health insurance through your reptilian puppet master Soviet Premiere Barack HUSSEIN Obama" post.

Next time I see a little kid eating some generic cheese or drinking some WIC milk I'm slapping it out of their hands.

  

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The ACA = Bachelor tax.
Feb 14th 2015
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Bachelor tax actually sounds better.
Feb 14th 2015
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Huh? That's 100% FALSE. Absolutely wrong. It's entirely based on income....
Feb 15th 2015
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Bite your tongue SINGLE PEOPLE PAY FOR EVERYTHING n/m
Feb 15th 2015
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This has nothing to do with you being a man.
Feb 15th 2015
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try being a full time single dad
Feb 15th 2015
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Huh? Waiting list for what? Where is this?
Feb 15th 2015
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Shaun Tha Don
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Sat Feb-14-15 06:28 PM

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1. "The ACA = Bachelor tax."
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Besides, ain't no way they were gonna make single women pay for it without some backlash.

Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

  

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Lardlad95
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Sat Feb-14-15 06:32 PM

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2. "Bachelor tax actually sounds better."
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"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard

  

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Cold Truth
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Sun Feb-15-15 10:54 AM

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3. "Huh? That's 100% FALSE. Absolutely wrong. It's entirely based on income...."
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Sun Feb-15-15 11:12 AM by Cold Truth

  

          

This is a federal program. If you're under 138% of the poverty level for the number of people in your tax household, you get *free* medical coverage. A tax household basically consists of the number of people claimed as a tax dependent. So if you're one of those people who claim your sisters 4th and 5th kids as tax dependents, congratulations, you're actually responsible for their health care.

In fact, that threshold for single people without children- REGARDLESS OF GENDER- is actually HIGHER than it is for people with children. Again, this is federal. There's a somewhat separate set of rules than Medicaid and state run equivalents, but the eligibility requirements generally change to include property, disability status, age, etc for those. If you have no children, no disability, and are under age 65, MAGI is your only shot a time free medical. If you're over income for MAGI, then it's on to the APTC.

In California, if you have children, that provides potential linkage to regular Medi-Cal, though again, I can't speak for eligibility requirements for Medicaid and equivalent state run programs, but MAGI and the APTC (advanced premium tax credit) are both federal, income based programs and if you have kids in your tax household, your income threshold is actually lower than it is if you're single.

Gender had nothing to do with federal MAGI (modified adjusted gross income) based medical coverage or the APTC, which is the tax credit you're allotted based on income for your household size if you are over income for MAGI and have no linkage to Medicaid and state run equivalents.

Gender also has nothing to do with cash aid or food stamp requirements. I have no idea where you guys are getting your information from but it's completely incorrect.


  

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DaHeathenOne76
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Sun Feb-15-15 11:13 AM

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6. "Bite your tongue SINGLE PEOPLE PAY FOR EVERYTHING n/m"
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huh

  

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Cold Truth
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Sun Feb-15-15 11:03 AM

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4. "This has nothing to do with you being a man."
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It's got everything to do with your income being over the threshold.

Trust me. This is not the issue to use for the 'poor discriminated male' approach.

  

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LAbeathustla
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Sun Feb-15-15 11:07 AM

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5. "try being a full time single dad"
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zero programs.. oh they have some for single mothers..try to get in in that act .. slapped on some waiting list... single mothers get priority for emergency cases

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Cold Truth
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7. "Huh? Waiting list for what? Where is this? "
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Sun Feb-15-15 11:33 AM by Cold Truth

  

          

I know different regions can operate differently, shit even in my county different offices do some things differently, but food stamps are federal and much of the medical coverage is federal, and those rules don't change. If you're getting lower priority due to your gender, you need to call your county board of supervisors.

>zero programs.. oh they have some for single mothers..try to
>get in in that act .. slapped on some waiting list... single
>mothers get priority for emergency cases

Food stamps? Cash Aid? Medi-Cal?

None of these programs have a 'waiting' list. Section 8 has a waiting list to my understanding, but not for the other three programs. Food stamps is a federal program and those rules are federal.

In fact, the rules are simple:

Cash Aid and Medi-Cal (I assume you're in Cali) have a 45 day processing time frame. CalFresh (the stupid state name for food stamps) is 30 days.

That's it. No 'waiting list'. No 'single mom' provision.

You apply, get assigned an intake worker, and they have to process your case within those time frames. Further, this should definitely have been given to you in writing if you applied for any of these programs. Cash Aid has some different circumstances, such as a maximum family grant child, time limits, work requirements.

If you're really getting placed on some sort of priority list using gender-based criteria, you seriously need to contact the board of supervisors for your county.

Most people who get denied choose to believe that it's some nefarious scheme by The Man when it's really just a matter of not meeting the requirement. We had a man flip out on Friday because he was told he could not get food stamps because he received an SSP allotment with his SSI. SSP is a federally issued portion of the SSI cash award that's designated as food stamps. Well, according to this guy, we were telling him know because he was a black man, not because he received SSP and the rules clearly state that SSP recipients are ineligible. An awful lot of people either fail to comply with a requirement, don't complete their paperwork, or flat out don't meet the minimum requirements. Gender isn't a requirement and if you're being told that your gender is a factor, that's discrimination and you need to contact your county board of supervisors and then the state, if you fail to get results. I'll help you with that if you need it.

  

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