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legsdiamond
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"Bad Kaarma: Montana man sentenced to 70 years. (swipe)"


          

http://news.yahoo.com/montana-man-killed-german-student-set-sentencing-065431013.html



MISSOULA, Mont. (AP) — A Montana homeowner was sentenced Thursday to 70 years in prison, with no parole for at least 20 years, in the shotgun killing of a German exchange student who was trespassing in his garage.

District Judge Ed McLean said Markus Kaarma was hunting, not safeguarding his home when he shot 17-year-old Diren Dede early one April morning.

"Here you have a 12-gauge shotgun, not to protect your family but to go after someone," the judge told Kaarma. "And go after someone you did."

A Missoula jury convicted Kaarma, 30, of deliberate homicide in the case that caused an outcry in Germany and brought scrutiny to Montana's law allowing the use of deadly force in some situations to protect home and family. Kaarma faced between 10 to 100 years in prison.

He shot Dede, who was unarmed, after being alerted by motion sensors in his garage. Witnesses said Kaarma fired at the teen four times, striking him twice.

Dede's father, Celal Dede, said of the sentence: "It is justice. I am not happy. My son is dead."

He and his wife attended the entire trial, and he flew back from Germany for Thursday's hearing.

Kaarma sat staring down during much of the proceeding, occasionally glancing around the crowded courtroom. He sported buzz-cut, dark hair and an orange jail suit.

"I'm sorry my actions caused the death of Mr. Dede," Kaarma told the judge.

Before handing down the sentence, McLean heard testimony from Kaarma's girlfriend, a detective, the teen's host parents in Missoula and others.

Kaarma's mother, Chong Kaarma, pleaded for leniency for the sake of her grandson, asking the judge to let the boy have his father as soon as possible.

She apologized to Celal Dede from the stand. He replied from his front-row seat: "Why did you wait? Too late."

Kaarma's girlfriend, Janelle Pflager, testified she has received death threats against her 19-month-old son with and Kaarma. She called Kaarma the "single-most misunderstood person I have ever met."

"He didn't want to kill anyone," she said. "He only wanted to make sure he and myself and son were alive at the end."

Missoula County Attorney Karla Painter later asked Pflager if she said during a phone call with Kaarma in jail that she and Kaarma wouldn't pay for the Dedes' "dirty rat son" to be sent back to Germany for burial.

Pflager said she didn't recall saying that.


ol girl called him a dirty rat son on a jail phone. smh...

  

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Was wondering why he was charged, then I saw Kaarma's pic.
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you thought you were a Montana Redneck too?
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uh, maybe save that for a guy who doesnt tell ppl he wants to kill someo...
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      No I think ill use it right here, white boy.
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teen was obviously a thief
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He was Turkish though
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      Kaarma looks 30+... 70 is life unless there is a miracle.
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           here you pretty much automatically serve half.
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As soon as I saw the name Kaarma, I had wondered if dude was another rac...
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      yep, I bet his boys told him to set up that trap
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He would have got much less time if he even feigned remorse/sadness
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8-bit
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1. "Was wondering why he was charged, then I saw Kaarma's pic."
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He looks Asian. I *knew* it had to be a catch.

And why the fuck was that teen in his garage?

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ShawndmeSlanted
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Fri Feb-13-15 01:08 PM

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2. "you thought you were a Montana Redneck too?"
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With your shotgun and your hunting license, and your right to protect your property.

NOPE!

They showed your ass real quick.

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cgonz00cc
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7. "uh, maybe save that for a guy who doesnt tell ppl he wants to kill someo..."
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Then shoots an unarmed teenager 4 times

  

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ShawndmeSlanted
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9. "No I think ill use it right here, white boy."
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Since the American Justice System has had a number of incidents in just the past 36 months where a white person was able to break laws, not comply with direction, and kill someone - all in the name of protecting himself.

I never once said what Kaarma did was okay. I said he thought he was one of them and quickly found out he wasnt.

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legsdiamond
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3. "teen was obviously a thief"
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the problem is Kaarma went around telling people he was setting a trap and wanted to catch a body.

The real story tho is this dude thought he was one of then and could kill a white person and get away with it.

  

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Atillah Moor
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4. "He was Turkish though "
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Would have been life if dude was straight up father land. I like the Dad's response though-- "too damn late".

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legsdiamond
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5. "Kaarma looks 30+... 70 is life unless there is a miracle. "
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ndibs
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11. "here you pretty much automatically serve half."
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so that would be 35....

  

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The Wordsmith
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6. "As soon as I saw the name Kaarma, I had wondered if dude was another rac..."
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He got a little too comfortable with his good ol' boys friends and thought he was one of them. The fact that it's known that he said he was gonna set a trap suggests that someone he knew had snitched. He found out real quick he ain't one of the good ol' boys after all.



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legsdiamond
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10. "yep, I bet his boys told him to set up that trap"
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Fri Feb-13-15 03:41 PM

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8. "He would have got much less time if he even feigned remorse/sadness"
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They monitored his jail phone calls with his girlfriend where he was pretty much proud of what he did.

The victim's family was trying to get money to send him back to Germany to be buried, and he said something like "I'm not going to pay to send that scum home"

Judge took that into account when coming up with the sentence

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