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Deadzombie
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" 'testing' people's principles with the dropped-money test?"


          

when meeting someone new, and for whatever reason you're on the fence about the 'type' of person they are, how likely are you to put it to the test by 'accidentally' dropping a $20 bill and seeing if they give it back to you.

i got a buddy who is a contractor. he hires and fires his crew based on the $20 test.

he accidentally drops the bill, walks by and back around. if the guy(s) doesn't get his attention, and try to return it - he fires the guy the following week.

he's fired three people with this test. two black on mexican.

i thought the shit was genius and could be applied to so many things people and situations.

what do you think of his behavior? is it a set-up?

are his morals fucked up for testing people like this?

im still on the fence. what do you think?

  

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Do they see him drop it? If so yeah that's good
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and this is the problem with the test
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money on the table or desk is up for grabs. they're usually on a site.
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they see him drop it. he showed me the move. it's believable.
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      i don't know how he's able to tell for certain the person sees.
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That's some paranoid shit to do. Sounds like homey has issues.
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pretty much...i already know not to drop a $20 around THAT dude
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i agree. but it's not really crime to not have faith in people.
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I don't think you can principle check strangers like that.
Feb 13th 2015
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background check on a mutha fucka you picked up from home depot?
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      You can only trust so much someone you picked up from home depot.
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           lol i was about to say, who is stealing $20 at work at anyway
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                but it's not quite a steal. it's a character test.
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                     It's more like a stupidity / desperation test
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                          there are different levels to stealing.
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I'd be looking for a new job if I found out my boss did that
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      pretty much. Potential employees prolly wanna run a principle test on th...
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      whats the issue if you'd get his attention and give the money?
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      I might not notice. Is it my job to sit and watch the boss?
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           no foul for not noticing. the only foul is picking up the money
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                if i found a $20 on a floor in an empty home with me and another dude
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      plus, your work may be great, but you're stealing supplies and
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           Then he can do his job as a boss and regularly check the inventory
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                hmm. wife testing. interesting.
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                lmao you seen that movie extract?
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No different then Zappos alleged hiring practice
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      actually that's understandable and not as fucked up as this...
Feb 13th 2015
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      thats basic stuff, like asking a receptionist how you treated them, thei...
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           Good point
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fuck that guy...
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you'd keep the money, too?
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      if I don't see him drop it... yup
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NYDP was first!
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why am i not surprised.
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NYPD are douchebags. This shit is doesn't even seem legal
Feb 13th 2015
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sounds like a maniac...wouldn't want to work for someone like this
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dude probably makes one hell of a bf/husband
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(working for) the feds been doing this forever
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I'd prefer to just not work for him
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Binlahab
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1. "Do they see him drop it? If so yeah that's good"
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If they don't see him drop it and it could be considered anyone's then no it's not


does it really matter?

wonder what bin's doing?
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John Forte
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2. "and this is the problem with the test"
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It would have to be more overt like leaving it in the chair he was sitting in, or right on the table or desk.

  

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Deadzombie
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4. "money on the table or desk is up for grabs. they're usually on a site."
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3. "they see him drop it. he showed me the move. it's believable."
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he hurriedly walks past the man and puts the hand in and out of the pocket while letting the bill fall as he passes.

some real magician man-shit, but the shit was believable.

  

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6. "i don't know how he's able to tell for certain the person sees."
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unless its being recorded.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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5. "That's some paranoid shit to do. Sounds like homey has issues."
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If he has to go around plotting ways to "test" people, then dude is the one with trust issues. Like someone else said, dude assumes that people actually saw him drop the $20, but everyone isn't paying attention like that. He might have fired someone that just saw a $20 on the ground and had no idea where it came from.

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7. "pretty much...i already know not to drop a $20 around THAT dude"
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Fri Feb-13-15 11:16 AM by Cenario

  

          

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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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Deadzombie
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8. "i agree. but it's not really crime to not have faith in people."
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and contract work is full of suspect characters.

so you gotta keep them on point.

how do you propose people principle-check a stranger they have to work with?

you have a lot of faith in people?

  

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9. "I don't think you can principle check strangers like that. "
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Run a background check. If they pass that, what more can you do.

I mean is dude firing people that actually work with money?


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12. "background check on a mutha fucka you picked up from home depot?"
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15. "You can only trust so much someone you picked up from home depot."
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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"One of the most important things in life is what Judge Learned Hand described as 'that ever-gnawing inner doubt as to whether you're r

  

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Cenario
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17. "lol i was about to say, who is stealing $20 at work at anyway"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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18. "but it's not quite a steal. it's a character test."
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24. "It's more like a stupidity / desperation test "
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The crook will give the money back smoke in your face and steal thousands of equity from you or have a team rob your house. I'm convinced most burglaries are ppl that are "friends".

  

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27. "there are different levels to stealing. "
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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10. "I'd be looking for a new job if I found out my boss did that"
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Test me by evaluating my work. Period.

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11. "pretty much. Potential employees prolly wanna run a principle test on th..."
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boss lol

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Deadzombie
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13. "whats the issue if you'd get his attention and give the money?"
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and you was hanging out in a parking lot all day waiting to get picked up for a job.

im thinking times is kinda hard for you and based on the test, you gonna leave the site?

  

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20. "I might not notice. Is it my job to sit and watch the boss? "
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Or work. Is it a secure room or site? No wind no other people?

  

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22. "no foul for not noticing. the only foul is picking up the money"
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without telling him.

it could be just them two on the specific site.

indoors, no wind.

empty home.

  

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25. "if i found a $20 on a floor in an empty home with me and another dude"
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working there all day i wouldn't even assume it was his. At the same time, it wouldn't necessarily be that big of a deal. I might mention to the dude i found a $20 and i might stuff it in my pocket and forget about it.

Point being there are so many variables involved for thaat to be the reason you fire someone.

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14. "plus, your work may be great, but you're stealing supplies and"
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building yourself an addition to your own house with them.

that's not okay.

  

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21. "Then he can do his job as a boss and regularly check the inventory"
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I just have no other way to explain why I think intentionally "testing" someone just shows that the person doing the testing has a lack of trust.

I could see if I worked for the CIA or FBI, but a contract job doing some sort of labor? Nah. Dude has issues. The type to give their kids a lie detector test, or have some dude holler at his wife just to see how she responds.

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23. "hmm. wife testing. interesting."
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39. "lmao you seen that movie extract?"
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26. "No different then Zappos alleged hiring practice"
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They drive you to the interview site in a hired car. Later the boss or whoever asks the driver how they were treated by the potential employee-- if the driver says they were treated poorly then dude or dudette doesn't get the gig.

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29. "actually that's understandable and not as fucked up as this..."
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its'also not prone to as many mistakes or mishaps.

With the zappos hiring thing, they are judging how you'd treat potential customers/business by how you test other strangers you don't know...i see no issue with this.

but with dropping money...unless he sees them see him drop the money, and then he sees them take the money...how can he assume that they took it and were dishonest? someone else might have been around, saw it and took it. Maybe the person thought it was paper, maybe the person doesn't have sharp eyesight...it's so many factors on how this is fucked up.

not comparable to zappos at all.

  

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31. "thats basic stuff, like asking a receptionist how you treated them, thei..."
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opinion etc...unless they tell the driver to do extra stuff to see how you respond.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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38. "Good point"
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16. "fuck that guy... "
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19. "you'd keep the money, too?"
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34. "if I don't see him drop it... yup"
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I sat next to a girl on the chinatown bus to NYC and she left her purse. I hopped off the bus and waved her down because I would hate for that shit to happen to me.



  

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28. "NYDP was first!"
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http://gothamist.com/2013/05/21/nypds_operation_lucky_bag_target_of.php

  

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32. "why am i not surprised."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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37. "NYPD are douchebags. This shit is doesn't even seem legal"
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Folks literally FINDING a bag on the ground (no person around) and before they can even walk off with it (to, you know, maybe call some of the numbers on the phone, or google the name on the license) they lock them up.

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30. "sounds like a maniac...wouldn't want to work for someone like this"
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i don't have time for all those mind games

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33. "dude probably makes one hell of a bf/husband"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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35. "(working for) the feds been doing this forever"
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Coolin...

  

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36. "I'd prefer to just not work for him"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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