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""The DUFF" bothers me. "
Tue Feb-10-15 05:23 PM by Buddy_Gilapagos

  

          

I am sure there will be a hollywood feel good ending where everyone learns to not be superficial but it just seems wrong to put out into the ether the notion of "Designated Ugly Fat Friend".

Seems to me alot of girls will be walking out that movie filling like a DUFF.

Always felt bad for actors who end up always playing the "not cute" character in movies.

I guess Mae Whitman is going the Melissa McCarthy route and just embracing the ish out of being that girl.



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anyone else have to google this to know what the hell he was talking abo...
Feb 10th 2015
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I've been seeing the trailer on tv. Trailer alone can cause hurt feelin...
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Shit been in the ether. I wonder if there is a male version of this
Feb 10th 2015
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Not just women but I feel you/agree
Feb 10th 2015
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Lena Dunham flipped the DUFF paradigm
Feb 10th 2015
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Damn you just dropped some deep poo on my head.
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No, but she's self important enough to think she did.
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yep
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I thought the same, BG also think Hilary Duff should sue LOL j/k n/m
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i know a family with the last name Duff
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that movie ain't gonna tell them anything they don't already know
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i remind myself that the actors who take those roles
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Her "ugly" is probably cuter than alot of viewers regular
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Her?
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^^Underrated Reply
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Steve Holt.
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      I've made a huge mistake
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Way to plant, Ann
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Mae is cute as hell though
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RE: Mae is cute as hell though
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Back of the knee is the weak point if she ever run up on you.
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I'm in lesbians with her
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shes adorable
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      I think that's part of what bothers me. She is a cute kid. why is she he...
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           Because it's Hollywood
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           the point of casting a 'cute' actress to play the ugly duckling
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           The formula usually involves a nerdy uncool girl. Can't think of a movi...
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           right, in what world is Rachel Leigh Cook hideous?
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           it's a movie.
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           Movies shape opinion. We still trying to shake off Birth of a Nation.
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                lulzoos.
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           because they have to be good looking enough to shockingly reveal as
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Thought this was about beer.
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Woo Hoo!!!!!
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#TeamDUFF n/m
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Thought this was about Duff Beer. *Abe Simpson*
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i dont know about all that but im sure DUFF will become a thing
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I already claimed it LOL n/m
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This chick is 26
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i was surprised when i saw that she was playing a HS student
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Women celebrities tend to get infantilized on OKP
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I've got t-shirts older than her.
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you not wrong
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naw.
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      Yes
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      Becuase the Moral of the story prevails. That's why Scarface isn't a
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      Becuase the Moral of the story prevails. That's why Scarface isn't a
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Who?
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1. "anyone else have to google this to know what the hell he was talking abo..."
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I outta the loop I guess

  

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4. "I've been seeing the trailer on tv. Trailer alone can cause hurt feelin..."
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2. "Shit been in the ether. I wonder if there is a male version of this"
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"designated corny nigga", perhaps?

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3. "Not just women but I feel you/agree"
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5. "Lena Dunham flipped the DUFF paradigm"
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She's a trailblazer.

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6. "Damn you just dropped some deep poo on my head. "
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The thing is, if they made a Lena Dunham bio movie, hollywood would cast Mae Whitman as her.


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13. "No, but she's self important enough to think she did."
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Ain't nobody castin Lena Dunham in romantic leads.

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44. "yep"
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folks still mad as fuck too
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7. "I thought the same, BG also think Hilary Duff should sue LOL j/k n/m"
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8. "i know a family with the last name Duff"
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and everyone was excited about the title until we found out what they were talking about. after that we were like....not so much.
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9. "that movie ain't gonna tell them anything they don't already know"
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10. "i remind myself that the actors who take those roles"
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are costumed and made up to appear 'ugly' usually for the first 2 acts of the movie and are often made up to appear 'beautiful' in the final act. classic 'Ugly Duckling' storyline. we all remember that story - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ugly_Duckling. i expect this DUFF movie is yet another re-telling of The Ugly Duckling w/some twist added.

and i also know that actors who play 'beauty' generally are also made up and costumed just like actors are made up to play 'ugly'.

so i don't trip.

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16. "Her "ugly" is probably cuter than alot of viewers regular"
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which I think will leave folks walking out feeling bad.

But yeah, it's usually easier to watch when they use extreme makeup to make the ugly character ugly.

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Funny they made her hot in the 3rd season of Arrested Development too...



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*protip*

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21. "I think that's part of what bothers me. She is a cute kid. why is she he..."
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up as a DUFF?

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34. "the point of casting a 'cute' actress to play the ugly duckling"
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is that the whole time WE KNOW she's not ugly. it's the idiots in the movie who can't see her beauty. and then when she's revealed as a beauty in the final act the idiots in the movie finally catch up and see what we the audience saw the whole time.

this movie has been made dozens of times.

note: i'm assuming DUFF is a re-telling of the Ugly Duckling story.

fuck you.

  

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46. "The formula usually involves a nerdy uncool girl. Can't think of a movi..."
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in which that character was labeled and described as Fat and Ugly.


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36. "right, in what world is Rachel Leigh Cook hideous?"
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29. " it's a movie."
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it is not biographical as far as i know. it's fictional.

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30. "Movies shape opinion. We still trying to shake off Birth of a Nation. "
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good looking later on. and nobody likes looking at actually ugly people for two straight hours.

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23. "#TeamDUFF n/m"
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26. "Thought this was about Duff Beer. *Abe Simpson*"
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31. "i dont know about all that but im sure DUFF will become a thing"
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like MILF did after it was intro'd in american pie

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believe in love, prepare urself for love, remove the negativity from ur life, and accept the love u kno u deserve

  

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33. "I already claimed it LOL n/m"
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35. "This chick is 26"
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why are we talking about her like she's a little girl?

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38. "i was surprised when i saw that she was playing a HS student"
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her character was even at least 21,22 on this last season of Parenthood.

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39. "Women celebrities tend to get infantilized on OKP"
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Not by a huge amount, but it happens often enough. I've seen a 25yo single mother singer on here get referred to as a young girl just having fun (taking selfies). A 14yo is a "young girl" in reality.

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47. "I've got t-shirts older than her. "
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She's a kid to me. It's a relative age thing.


My dad calls obama a kid *shrugs*

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why are we talking about her like she's a little girl?


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40. "you not wrong"
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i dont know what to tell you


but you are right to be concerned

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41. "naw."
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he'd be right if the woman cast in this movie had never played a beautiful woman in some other role.

but she has.

and, again, the point with castings like this is for the audience to be able to see that the woman being called 'ugly' by the fools in the movie is NOT actually ugly b/c we can see how beautiful she is. in this movie the fools call this woman fat and ugly and we know she's neither b/c we can see her. we know their labeling of her isn't fair.

fuck you.

  

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42. "Yes"
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>he'd be right if the woman cast in this movie had never
>played a beautiful woman in some other role.
>
>but she has.
>
>and, again, the point with castings like this is for the
>audience to be able to see that the woman being called 'ugly'
>by the fools in the movie is NOT actually ugly b/c we can see
>how beautiful she is. in this movie the fools call this woman
>fat and ugly and we know she's neither b/c we can see her. we
>know their labeling of her isn't fair.

^^^^^


none of that matters

it might actually be worse

what matters is the effect the movie will have on the person seeing it
and no matter what people tell themselves about 'this is a movie' 'only a movie'
'its not real'
it has an effect
an effect that is multiplied by what girls are bombarded with everyday
the message of they are not good enough

hopefully hes right and the ending does the happy ending thing
odds are this movies message is really screwy


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"Becuase the Moral of the story prevails. That's why Scarface isn't a "


  

          

an icon or role model to anyone.

You describe what Hollywood intends to convey. I think there could be many unintended consequences of a movie like this.

But if the Mean Girls in the film think this girl is FAT. I think it might make some of the many girls bigger than this girl get an idea what the mean girls at their school must think of them.

>he'd be right if the woman cast in this movie had never
>played a beautiful woman in some other role.

That's assuming that the viewers in question have seen the other roles. I have seen here in maybe three things and she has always played the not cute girl (Arrested Development, Scott Pilgrim & This)

>but she has.
>
>and, again, the point with castings like this is for the
>audience to be able to see that the woman being called 'ugly'
>by the fools in the movie is NOT actually ugly b/c we can see
>how beautiful she is. in this movie the fools call this woman
>fat and ugly and we know she's neither b/c we can see her. we
>know their labeling of her isn't fair.

Fair ain't got nothing to do with anything. The hollywood way that this chick will have to show everyone that the mean girls were being unfair to her probably won't be an option for most girls watching this movie.

Maybe frugly girls will walk away feeling better about themselves after seeing this movie. I doubt it.



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45. "Becuase the Moral of the story prevails. That's why Scarface isn't a "
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an icon or role model to anyone.

You describe what Hollywood intends to convey. I think there could be many unintended consequences of a movie like this.

But if the Mean Girls in the film think this girl is FAT. I think it might make some of the many girls bigger than this girl get an idea what the mean girls at their school must think of them.

>he'd be right if the woman cast in this movie had never
>played a beautiful woman in some other role.

That's assuming that the viewers in question have seen the other roles. I have seen here in maybe three things and she has always played the not cute girl (Arrested Development, Scott Pilgrim & This)

>but she has.
>
>and, again, the point with castings like this is for the
>audience to be able to see that the woman being called 'ugly'
>by the fools in the movie is NOT actually ugly b/c we can see
>how beautiful she is. in this movie the fools call this woman
>fat and ugly and we know she's neither b/c we can see her. we
>know their labeling of her isn't fair.

Fair ain't got nothing to do with anything. The hollywood way that this chick will have to show everyone that the mean girls were being unfair to her probably won't be an option for most girls watching this movie.

Maybe frugly girls will walk away feeling better about themselves after seeing this movie. I doubt it.



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43. "Who?"
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>I guess Mae Whitman is going the Melissa McCarthy route and
>just embracing the ish out of being that girl.
>
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