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The Wordsmith
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"Howard University president proposes tuition free HBCUs."


  

          

I wanna see what y'all think about this proposal:


http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Howard-University-President-Proposes-Tuition-Free-HBCUs-290852691.html


Howard University President Dr. Wayne Frederick wants the White House to take its free community college proposal a step further and include historically black colleges and universities.
Howard senior Kevin Peterman, who is the first in his family to go to college, wants to see others get the same benefits of higher education.

“It wasn’t supposed to happen, if you really look at the finances of my family and what we had to offer,” Peterman said.
Frederick believes President Barack Obama's plan to lower the cost of two years of community college to zero should include historically black colleges and universities.

"The students who come to Howard represent those from the lower socio-economic status in our undergrad population," he said.
At Howard, graduation rates increase by 10 percent among students who receive full rides, Frederick said.

"If we don't have the historically black colleges and universities as places these students can be taken in, we certainly will be educating less people of color," he said.
Obama's plan would cost the federal government and states $60 billion over 10 years. Adding tuition to attend the country's 100 HBCUs would send that number skyrocketing.


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THIS IS REPARATIONS!!! have i not been telling yall this for yrs?!
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It sure is
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^^
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Sounds like a step towards reparations to me
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Sounds great in theory
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Black people dont let it happen
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this is a great idea.
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Maybe public HBCUs.
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wont know until you try
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Yeah..Public HBCUs is the first step...sorry Howard
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sounds good.
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RE: Howard University president proposes tuition free HBCUs.
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Sounds like a winner if it happens.
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Its talk right now. Let's see this as a proposal in writing
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lol @ them trying to get out being a business
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What do you propose in regards of regulations?
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First of all there needs to be one accrediting body
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#1, hbcus consistently turn out the most Ba, Bs, MD, phd etc
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Ignore that part of his reply. He's hating
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      great! regulated by who? niggas you are FREE! FREE i say
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           That's how they been running Howard too, free and unaccountable
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                sir, Howard has been & will continue to be doing excellently
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what are you basing this on?
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interesting.
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Great idea
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Isn't Howard like 30K a year??!!!???!!!!
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a private uni operating at a deficit every yr wants full payment for
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i have to agree
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How long would a free Howard, Morehouse or Hampton stay Black?
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not long
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First thing that popped into my head
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this is a pitiful ass shame. can yall come up w/ reasons to go FOR this
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the benefit though?
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      you know, I never considered that
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we got money for war but cant teach the poor!
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just read Wayne Frederick's bio a couple weeks ago holy shit
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we first need to fix what we typically choose to goto school for
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Business degrees?
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separate but equal?
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1. "THIS IS REPARATIONS!!! have i not been telling yall this for yrs?!"
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DAMNIT

but i wanna take it further but this is a GREAT step & start


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9. "It sure is"
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I'm excited about it!

  

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34. "^^"
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i finally agree with bin!
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2. "Sounds like a step towards reparations to me"
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3. "Sounds great in theory"
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But as soon as a new president decides they want to cut the program, what happens to HBCUs then?

  

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4. "Black people dont let it happen"
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when obama announced he was gonna tax 529s, middle class rose up & said no sir...& he back pedaled

we HAVE to start being politically committed to something as a unit otherwise it will just keep rolling over us


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5. "this is a great idea. "
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6. "Maybe public HBCUs."
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It's one thing to sell the taxpayers on a plan that covers 2 years of community college at $6000 (most of which they're already paying for since a high percentage of CC students receive PELL). You could probably sell the taxpayer on waiving in-state tuition at FAMU or Norfolk State. Convincing the taxpayer to pay 160k to put some buppie's kid through Morehouse is an entirely different beast.

  

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8. "wont know until you try"
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we have never tried


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23. "Yeah..Public HBCUs is the first step...sorry Howard"
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Funding the private ones gets a little expensive...

  

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7. "sounds good."
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fuck you.

  

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10. "RE: Howard University president proposes tuition free HBCUs."
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I'm all for it....

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11. "Sounds like a winner if it happens. "
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12. "Its talk right now. Let's see this as a proposal in writing"
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then I will be more excited. But for what it is, it sounds like a good idea.

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13. "lol @ them trying to get out being a business"
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This is a good idea but this should be uber regulated. This is just the thing that would allow these institutions to offer even more sub-standard education

  

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15. "What do you propose in regards of regulations?"
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Things such as the schools have to have a certain number of graduates and/or a certain number of students with at least a decent GPA to receive gov't funding?


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19. "First of all there needs to be one accrediting body "
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Not 16 per district or whatever, one standard to step up to...

And lets not get past the fact that underneath all this they are still trying to pimp these online classes as a substitute for real teaching

Online classes should be for continuing education only, now they are used as gen ed replacements

All of this needs to be regulated through emprical data, not some regional authority

  

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16. "#1, hbcus consistently turn out the most Ba, Bs, MD, phd etc"
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So what sub standard education are you referring to?

Also what is the standard...and who made it the standard?

Finally, why do you think hbcu is substandard...could it have anything to do with (guess?)


Not having enough money?

So, gee...wouldn't a grant to make all hbcus tuition free be a boon to those schools, who educate more Black people across the country both currently and historically?

Smh. Your conditioning has been conditioned

  

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17. "Ignore that part of his reply. He's hating"
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the first part is on point though.

  

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26. "great! regulated by who? niggas you are FREE! FREE i say"
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nobody gotta tell yall what to do now! damnit! BE FREE


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29. "That's how they been running Howard too, free and unaccountable"
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These schools are ours. OUR treasures, and the administrations stay fucking up. Giving them unlimited fed money is not the answer.

  

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30. "sir, Howard has been & will continue to be doing excellently"
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please dont believe the bullshit propaganda you hear abt The Mecca

and w/ that i bid you adieu


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35. "what are you basing this on?"
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>This is a good idea but this should be uber regulated. This
>is just the thing that would allow these institutions to offer
>even more sub-standard education

i ask because SUNY and CUNY school are (were) really good
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18. "Great idea"
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20. "Isn't Howard like 30K a year??!!!???!!!!"
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dont see how this would be accomplished.

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21. "a private uni operating at a deficit every yr wants full payment for"
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every student?
and want it funded by the government?
nah
i rather get real reparations instead of rewarding an under performing administration and caking up their endowment

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38. "i have to agree"
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>every student?
>and want it funded by the government?
>nah
>i rather get real reparations instead of rewarding an under
>performing administration and caking up their endowment


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22. "How long would a free Howard, Morehouse or Hampton stay Black?"
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24. "not long"
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can't do it for the private institutions...gets too expensive...

  

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27. "this is a pitiful ass shame. can yall come up w/ reasons to go FOR this"
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do you not see what youre doing?!

its not even a damn proposal yet! ONE HBCU prez floated the idea & here you clowns go w/ every reason under the sun why it wont work, why it shouldnt happen etc!

STOP that shit! we cant get the shit off the ground with you asshats killing the shit in its cradle!


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36. "the benefit though?"
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and enforced curriculum that would tell our story

alot of the students that come from there who arent black
i be loving those folks
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37. "you know, I never considered that"
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28. "we got money for war but cant teach the poor!"
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are you clowns SERIOUS?! so make alabama A&M tuition free...but not the cream of the crop...let THEM wither & die on the vine...thats really intelligent


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31. "just read Wayne Frederick's bio a couple weeks ago holy shit"
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HU does the poorest job of marketing/fundraising ever. There really is no reason they can't double their endowment in ten years if they stopped bullshitting.

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32. "we first need to fix what we typically choose to goto school for"
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a free education of a degree that dont pay shit wont help things at all

  

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33. "separate but equal?"
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