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"Bieber leaving his "thug life" behind and entering apology tour mode"
Fri Jan-30-15 09:24 AM by GameTheory

          

Justin Bieber releases apology video: I'm 'not who I was pretending to be'

Video of apology:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0anNXXrIpxM


Video of Ellen Visit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuA_pseE4R8

Justin Bieber released a video Wednesday night via Facebook, apologizing for his "arrogant" behavior during the last year and a half.


"Just being young and growing up in this business is hard," the pop star said. "I really want people to know how much I care about people."

He said his behavior was largely an act to cover up his feelings: "When I say pretending, often we pretend to be something we’re not as a cover-up of what we’re truly feeling inside... And there was a lot of feelings going on in there. Just being young and growing up in this business is hard. Just growing up in general is hard."


The full, dimly-lit video runs about one minute, 40 seconds. A heads up to young Bieber fans out there: His language gets a bit graphic at times.

The singer filmed the video after appearing on "The Ellen DeGeneres Show," which the singer said he was nervous about. “I was really nervous. And I think I was nervous because I’m just, I was afraid of what people are thinking about me right now,” Bieber said on Facebook.


On "Ellen," the singer brought DeGeneres flowers and Calvin Klein underwear for her birthday, and discussed his recent decision to be the subject of a Comedy Central roast.

"I think it's cool to be able to laugh at yourself," he said. "I just want to own up to some of the things ."

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funny how he can't just say sorry I was acting like a punk kid
Jan 30th 2015
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RE: funny how he can't just say sorry I was acting like a punk kid
Jan 30th 2015
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I think Tupac might differ with him on the meaning
Jan 30th 2015
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      Not every body acting thuggish is going to be a carbon copy of Pac
Jan 30th 2015
5
           True so was Paris Hilton living the thug life?
Jan 30th 2015
6
                who did she have altercations with?
Jan 30th 2015
7
                     KK and the Richie girl? Ionno..
Jan 30th 2015
9
                     the law, she went to jail remember?
Jan 30th 2015
10
RE: funny how he can't just say sorry I was acting like a punk kid
Jan 30th 2015
11
      To me it seems to carry a bit more weight than just being a brat
Jan 30th 2015
12
      He's respectfully referring to Pac's redefining...
Jan 30th 2015
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           I respect Pac's work and most of his message
Jan 30th 2015
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                Ok well I'M referring to that then...
Jan 30th 2015
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                     so
Jan 30th 2015
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                          RE: so
Jan 30th 2015
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                               yeah i'm still feeling lost
Jan 30th 2015
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                                    I'll cut the fat
Jan 30th 2015
42
can apologizing make you a different person?
Jan 30th 2015
4
too late Beibs.. they hate you.
Jan 30th 2015
8
Everyone deserves a 1st, 3rd, 39th, and 100th chance.
Jan 30th 2015
13
Oh Biebs.
Jan 30th 2015
14
Paul Petersen finally snatched him up by the collar?
Jan 30th 2015
15
Will he cry while singing "Man In the Mirror" like Chris Brown?
Jan 30th 2015
17
ha!
Jan 30th 2015
22
why is he cosplaying as ellen
Jan 30th 2015
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He's white again. They always come back around.
Jan 30th 2015
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^^
Jan 30th 2015
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^^^^^incredibly underrated post
Jan 30th 2015
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^^playin black aint fun ALL the time lol
Jan 30th 2015
36
!!!
Jan 30th 2015
33
Ted Danson was a nigga for 2 hrs and looka how much trouble he got in!
Jan 30th 2015
40
this needs a spinoff - boomerang celebrities
Jan 31st 2015
46
Ha!
Jan 30th 2015
25
that dude was sitn on 100M+ as a teen. i most ppl in that position
Jan 30th 2015
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i know I would have
Jan 30th 2015
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      and not just little millions either. true wealth. i would like to thk
Jan 30th 2015
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on a related note. what happened to that actor who was trying to
Jan 30th 2015
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joaquin phoenix?
Jan 30th 2015
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that was a bit
Jan 30th 2015
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      yeah big time charade
Jan 30th 2015
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So, no more hanging out with da brothas for him?
Jan 30th 2015
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Pharell can be his new black friend
Jan 30th 2015
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      Jaden is too deep for beiber.
Jan 30th 2015
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           but think of how much fun they could have playing dress up
Jan 31st 2015
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                HA! they did a song together
Jan 31st 2015
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Tariq Nasheed predicted this EXACTLY and how they use Black people
Jan 31st 2015
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Atillah Moor
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1. "funny how he can't just say sorry I was acting like a punk kid"
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the phrase "thug life" makes it weird because whatever thug life is it surely isn't how that kid was/is living his life.

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2. "RE: funny how he can't just say sorry I was acting like a punk kid"
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>the phrase "thug life" makes it weird because whatever thug
>life is it surely isn't how that kid was/is living his life.

he was going at paparazzi and was having altercations with a neighbor while his friend had some kind of drug in Beib's mansion.

  

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3. "I think Tupac might differ with him on the meaning"
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Maybe it's semantics, but nothing about Beiber's lifestyle says thug. To me it just says over-privileged brat.

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c71
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5. "Not every body acting thuggish is going to be a carbon copy of Pac"
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...but if a person keeps going to court over altercations....uh...that's something

  

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6. "True so was Paris Hilton living the thug life?"
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c71
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7. "who did she have altercations with?"
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?

  

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9. "KK and the Richie girl? Ionno.."
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10. "the law, she went to jail remember? "
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Ended up in court, etc. Seems similar to JB to me.

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11. "RE: funny how he can't just say sorry I was acting like a punk kid"
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and...what do you think thug life is?


acting like a mature adult?

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12. "To me it seems to carry a bit more weight than just being a brat"
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Fri Jan-30-15 10:42 AM by Atillah Moor

  

          

IMO "Thug Life" would be Sid Vicious, Big L, Suge Knight, Ben Rothl-whatever, Mickey Fucking Rourke, etc. Hell-- you could even add Sean Penn to that list.

Some kid softer than baby thighs-- not so sure.

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16. "He's respectfully referring to Pac's redefining..."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=128ao5Xl_VY#t=3m34s

"When I'm saying "thug", I mean not criminal or someone that beat you over the head.
I mean the underdog. The person that had nothing and succeeds, he's a thug, because
he overcame all obstacles. It doesn't have anything to do with the dictionary's version
of thug. To me, "thug" is my pride. Not being someone that goes against the law,
someone that takes, but being someone that has nothing, but even though I have nothing
and there's no home for me to go to, my head is up high. My chest is out. I walk tall.
I talk loud. I being strong."

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18. " I respect Pac's work and most of his message "
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Fri Jan-30-15 11:11 AM by Atillah Moor

  

          

But he (Pac) doesn't get to redefine the meaning or origin of the word. It has way too much history rooted in pretty much all the things we associate with thuggish behavior.

He was at point in his life the definition of such and that's ok. He also grew and learned from that behavior but the nature of that behavior is still what it has always been-- it can't really be redefined as something relatively benign.

I guess what I'm saying is Bieber may have at times acted thug-like but never led a thug life.

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20. "Ok well I'M referring to that then..."
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especially when they insist on calling us "thugs" when they really mean to call us "niggers"
when we don't cow tow to white supremacy and their idea of how we should conduct
ourselves (such as Richard Sherman or Marshawn Lynch).
I'm with Pac. If they insist on calling us that, then we're changing the definition.
Let them keep finding new words to express their racism.
Bieber was being IRRESPONSIBLE. He's not a thug, never acted LIKE a thug.
He is and acted like an irresponsible spoiled rich white kid.

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21. "so"
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being a thug is responsible?


rich white kid aside


when did we turn thug into a positive word somewhere
and suddenly refuse to attribute what is a negative word
to this kid?

am i lost in here?

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24. "RE: so"
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>being a thug is responsible?


"To me, "thug" is my pride. Not being someone that goes against the law, someone
that takes, but being someone that has nothing, but even though I have nothing
and there's no home for me to go to, my head is up high. My chest is out. I walk tall.
I talk loud. I being strong."



>rich white kid aside


Under my boot, preferably



>when did we turn thug into a positive word somewhere


I'm not sure what year Pac said that, but whenever that was. Cemented for me when
white supremacists insist on calling us "thugs" for the very same characteristics
that get white guys called "awesome" or "asshole".


>and suddenly refuse to attribute what is a negative word
>to this kid?


Call him any negative word. "Thug life" definitely isn't the term to associate with him.
And (this is probably my most important point here) as long as EYE get called "thug" for being outspoken,
he doesn't get to be a "thug" for actually breaking the law.
It's not ME who changed the meaning. White folks did that.


>am i lost in here?


A little, but not that lost.


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34. "yeah i'm still feeling lost"
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>>being a thug is responsible?
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>"To me, "thug" is my pride. Not being someone that goes
>against the law, someone
>that takes, but being someone that has nothing, but even
>though I have nothing
>and there's no home for me to go to, my head is up high. My
>chest is out. I walk tall.
>I talk loud. I being strong."


but i think i also didn't pay tupac no mind for the most part


>>rich white kid aside
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>Under my boot, preferably
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>>when did we turn thug into a positive word somewhere
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>I'm not sure what year Pac said that, but whenever that was.
>Cemented for me when
>white supremacists insist on calling us "thugs" for the very
>same characteristics
>that get white guys called "awesome" or "asshole".

this thug thing as a media consistent microagression popped up recently for me in the past ten years

i feel like folks were more direct in the 90s
just just said black (in a not nice way)
i figured something happened we noticed um...they way yall say it
yal racist
they searched around
and started using thug incessantly...but yes like terrorist
pretty targeted and deliberately

i kinda get it
in other words if he "cleans up his act"
yet still pulls some bullshit
i'd rather we stay consistent and call him a thug

to me the police act like thugs
wall street dudes also act like thugs


i guess i see what you are saying if what you are saying that they are only calling him a thug because he is "acting black"

then yeah
nah

hes a thug because hes a dumbass
wearing docksiders and a polo shirt tucked in makes him no less thugish


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42. "I'll cut the fat"
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"As long as EYE get called "thug" for being outspoken,
he doesn't get to be a "thug" for actually breaking the law.
It's not ME who changed the meaning. White folks did that."

There are two meanings of "thug" being used here:

1) The dictionary definition that Bieber fits... violent, law breaker, criminal
2)Black and outspoken

As long white folks are using #2 like that, then #1 is invalid.
You can't call me a criminal and law-breaker for being outspoken.
I refuse to allow that, and have no problem reminding them of this every time they use the dictionary definition.
As soon as they insist that the label fits US for being outspoken, they have changed the meaning.
If they aren't trying to change the meaning, they need to figure out how to speak English.

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4. "can apologizing make you a different person?"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emsLrZg160s

i realize he's implying "i don't wanna be black no mo!"
he hasn't had a hit record in 3 years.
but apologizing can't make you a different person and the person in that video is the most hated celebrity in america.

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8. "too late Beibs.. they hate you. "
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That Confidence song is still fire tho...

  

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13. "Everyone deserves a 1st, 3rd, 39th, and 100th chance. "
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"Today is your day to have a better life -- it's your right."

  

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14. "Oh Biebs."
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Crazy kid.

~Experience is the currency of the soul.

  

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15. "Paul Petersen finally snatched him up by the collar?"
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17. "Will he cry while singing "Man In the Mirror" like Chris Brown?"
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22. "ha!"
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19. "why is he cosplaying as ellen"
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23. "He's white again. They always come back around. "
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time to stop playing dress up thug and get back on his money

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31. "^^^^^incredibly underrated post"
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>time to stop playing dress up thug and get back on his money
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grassrootsphilosopher

  

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36. "^^playin black aint fun ALL the time lol"
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gotta go back

  

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33. "!!!"
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!!!

  

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40. "Ted Danson was a nigga for 2 hrs and looka how much trouble he got in!"
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46. "this needs a spinoff - boomerang celebrities"
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25. "Ha!"
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Sounds like rich white people problems to me....

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26. "that dude was sitn on 100M+ as a teen. i most ppl in that position"
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would wild out alil bit before realizing they were alil outta control

  

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30. "i know I would have "
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I didn't have any money at that age and I was still an idiot. If I had millions I would have been doing some crazy shit I can tell you that much.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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35. "and not just little millions either. true wealth. i would like to thk"
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that quite a few of us would have been alil rambunctious and hard to deal with at times.

  

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27. "on a related note. what happened to that actor who was trying to"
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be a rapper
and he kept showing up with a beard and sunglasses on
i forget his name but i think it's the dude that was in Her

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28. "joaquin phoenix?"
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Pretty sure that was some meta performance art shit
but yeah he's a brilliant actor, so he just got back on his grind
the master, Her, inherent vice, etc.
he's good

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32. "that was a bit"
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hes always doing stuff like that

  

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37. "yeah big time charade"
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Everything looks like Oprah kissing Harvey Weinstein these days

  

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38. "So, no more hanging out with da brothas for him?"
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Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

  

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39. "Pharell can be his new black friend "
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Or Jayden maybe?

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41. "Jaden is too deep for beiber. "
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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43. "but think of how much fun they could have playing dress up"
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44. "HA! they did a song together"
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45. "Tariq Nasheed predicted this EXACTLY and how they use Black people"
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as a scapegoat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnNMm68cxX0#t=26m45s

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