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Af-1
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"Any creative writers here with time for story advice?"


  

          

I've actually asked for story help here before and received invaluable advice from people last time so hopefully people will be equally generous with their time and ideas.

I'm currently writing a book and there's a female character who's leaving her work place (where she works with the book's central character and is his potential love interest). She's told everyone she's leaving for a really cool job overseas but I want the story she's telling people to be a lie. What I can't think of is what the truth should be...

I've been through a long list of ideas like she has a child that she doesn't want anyone to know about, illness (which I haven't yet completely written out but am not too keen about using), I considered there being something about her family that she doesn't want shared(?), witness protection program (no, no)...

The book is a sorta crime/thriller so I guess it's welcome to be a little dark. I intend this to be three books in total and have completed the first (where she introduces the lie) and am in the planning stages of the second book where I need her to come clean basically.

Any help or ideas would be welcome. Thanks!

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what are her motivations for this lie
Jan 28th 2015
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Depends on why she’s lying and how it ties into her overall arc.
Jan 28th 2015
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Thanks for replies #1 and #2...
Jan 28th 2015
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She's being groomed by Asata in Cuba to be the next great Black leader.....
Jan 28th 2015
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Erm... yup, that's definitely a unique idea :)
Jan 29th 2015
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she could actually be headed to rehab
Jan 28th 2015
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I like all of these
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The pilgrimage is a fascinating idea...
Jan 29th 2015
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she has an alt origin story:
Jan 29th 2015
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      RE: she has an alt origin story:
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a stalker's being released from prison...
Jan 29th 2015
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Hmm, that's a great idea...
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if you use an idea presented here
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RE: if you use an idea presented here
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someone posted anais nin's lovers obit yest
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RE: someone posted anais nin's lovers obit yest
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ideas
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RE: ideas
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ThaAnthology
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1. "what are her motivations for this lie"
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and how does it correspond to the love interest/protaganist?

is her integrity or lack thereof a vehicle that moves the other parts of the story?

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Cold Truth
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2. "Depends on why she’s lying and how it ties into her overall arc. "
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Wed Jan-28-15 11:25 AM by Cold Truth

  

          

Ask yourself:

-Who am I lying to?
-Why am I lying?
-What type of person am I?
-What’s the consequence if this lie is uncovered?

Then ask your character the same questions and factor the following:

If the lie is set to be exposed, then I assume there is some consequence.

If there’s a consequence, then there was a really good reason or excuse (depending on the character) for the lie.

If the lie is that she’s going to a cool job, is she trying to impress the people she’s lying to? Is she trying to throw someone some scent they’ve picked up on? Is she protecting someone?

My assumption is that he’s leaving and she wants a good reason to leave that won’t lead people toward what she’s really doing.

Thing is, without out a little more in the way of specifics there’s not much in the way of specifics I can offer as a suggestion. I can only offer a thought process to help lead you to your answer until then.

Best of luck.

  

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Af-1
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Wed Jan-28-15 12:06 PM

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3. "Thanks for replies #1 and #2..."
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Just to provide a little bit of background: as I say, the first book is complete and the fact that she's lying about her reasons for leaving is only alluded to in book 1; book 2 has her reveal what the lie actually is, and then it can be further explored in book 3. She's by no means a central character - the story doesn't revolve around the relationship between the lead and her - and the lie actually only serves to develop *her* character as opposed to impacting the overall story. (Naturally, if the lie turns out to be an amazing thread, then it would lead on to impact book 3 way more than I thought it could.)

There's already been lots of great questions posed here so it's plenty for me to be thinking about, so thanks again for the replies!

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4. "She's being groomed by Asata in Cuba to be the next great Black leader....."
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8. "Erm... yup, that's definitely a unique idea :)"
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5. "she could actually be headed to rehab"
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or

headed to do some kind of jail time (the kind where she has to give herself up)

or

maybe she signed up to be a surrogate for someone

or

there's a pilgrimage that she feels she needs to be on

or

maybe a relative is dying of some slow illness and she has to take care of them

lemme know if you need anymore

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6. "I like all of these"
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7. "The pilgrimage is a fascinating idea..."
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So many possibilities stem from that - really interesting.

Poorly family member is interesting as well. Might be a good way to explore some of her family secrets and maybe reasons why she's the only one who can help them, etc.

Erm, if you have a couple more ideas I'd love to hear them?

Thanks so much for your replies!

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9. "she has an alt origin story: "
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- finds out she was adopted

- or Knew she was adopted, but never that her adoptive family knew more than they let on about her birth family

- something (fill in the foreshadowing word) about her birth family or newly discovered blood relations

-- this one can really be used to move your book 2 and 3, as these newly discovered connections set up potential conflict w/ the main protagonist, his s.o., or the company.

-- e.g., they work at a law firm and the new found brother, cousin, aunt or whatever has evidence that the law firm was shady and everythng there is built on a lie. so you get a lie as a plot device exposing a much bigger lie.

and of COURSE she couldn't tell her job (especially if there was some ruthless ish afoot) that she's leaving to go look into a story that could threaten the very existence of the firm.

the above would work for tech (snowden ish, espionage, treason), law firms, really any number of companies.

and you could have a lot of fun with it.

you make it seem like a small thread.

and then tease a couple of updates of her connecting w/ long lost fam.


and then draw the connection in time to add suspense to the main plot.

that's my .02.


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14. "RE: she has an alt origin story: "
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The overall idea that what she reveals in book 2 being something that plays a way bigger part to book 3 and the protagonist is actually perfect!

Thanks so much - these are great suggestions and lots to try and think about and piece together.

Hey, hope you're no longer pissed/upset.

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10. "a stalker's being released from prison..."
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maybe she was in collusion with a crime before they went in.

  

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15. "Hmm, that's a great idea..."
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It ties in pretty well to the theme in many ways. Hmm...

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11. "if you use an idea presented here"
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will you be crediting the poster who gave it to you?

here for dis.

  

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16. "RE: if you use an idea presented here"
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Oh absolutely.

Alternatively, we could collude and when the book(s) become a giant success, the person could make public declarations about bits & pieces coming from them and then we could settle out of court. It's perfect exposure for both parties.

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12. "someone posted anais nin's lovers obit yest"
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anais was living a double life with two husbands

so theres that


she could be a con artist (time to move on another day another sucker to fleece)

she could be joining a cult

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17. "RE: someone posted anais nin's lovers obit yest"
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Con artist as well is intriguing.

Man, I'm going to have to insert a whole bunch of new characters as some of these suggestions that you and everyone are contributing are incredible.

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13. "ideas"
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she's reluctantly joining her family's thriving marijuana business in a weed-friendly state, doesn't want to but the money's too good, and she's worried her wonky family will get themselves in trouble without her level headed guidance

or

she's joining a fringe religious sect, or some type of "taboo" community

or

she's committing herself

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18. "RE: ideas"
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Being committed is kinda cool (within the context of the book I mean) - or maybe she was previously but feels compelled to move on because of it, or something like that? Hmm...

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