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"Christian wife rips up yoga pants for husband, war ensues on youtube. "
Mon Jan-26-15 01:48 PM by select_from_where

  

          

Thoughts?

Her blog post:

DISCLAIMER: Let me just start off by saying, I am in NO WAY trying to tell people what they can and cannot wear. What you wear is entirely your own choice. I am just sharing my personal story on why I chose to no longer wear yoga pants or leggings in public.

For the past several months, I have been having a conviction weighing heavy on my heart. I tried ignoring it for as long as I could until one day a conversation came up amongst myself and a few others (both men and women). The conversation was about leggings and how when women wear them it creates a stronger attraction for a man to look at a woman’s body and may cause them to think lustful thoughts. God really changed my heart in the midst of that conversation and instead of ignoring my convictions, I figured it was time I start listening to them and take action.

I went home later that day and shared the convictions I was having with my husband. Was it possible my wearing leggings could cause a man, other than my husband, to think lustfully about my body? I asked my husband his thoughts on the matter when he got home. I appreciated his honesty when he told me, “yeah, when I walk into a place and there are women wearing yoga pants everywhere, it’s hard to not look. I try not to, but it’s not easy.”

I instantly felt conviction come over me even stronger. Not that I wasn’t feeling it earlier, or else I wouldn’t have thought twice about the conversation, but after talking to Dale, it hit me a lot harder. If it is difficult for my husband who loves, honors, and respects me to keep his eyes focused ahead, then how much more difficult could it be for a man that may not have the same self-control? Sure, if a man wants to look, they are going to look, but why entice them? Is it possible that the thin, form-fitting yoga pants or leggings could make a married (or single) man look at a woman in a way he should only look at his wife?

And at that moment, I made a personal vow to myself and to my husband. I will no longer wear thin, form-fitting yoga pants or leggings in public. The only time I feel (for myself) it is acceptable to wear them, is if I am in the comfort of my own home or if I am wearing a shirt long enough to cover my rear end. I also want to set the best example of how to dress for my daughter. I want her to know, her value is not in the way her body looks or how she dresses, but in the character and personality God has given her. I have been following the vow I made to myself for the past couple of weeks now and though it may be difficult to find an outfit at times, my conscience is clear and I feel I am honoring God and my husband in the way I dress.

http://veronicapartridge.com/why-i-chose-to-no-longer-wear-leggings/#disqus_thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv98lj24Ks4

  

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please don't stop wearing them.
Jan 26th 2015
1
^^^^^^^
Jan 28th 2015
139
freelance onion article
Jan 26th 2015
2
good for her & her husband. its abt what shes comfy with
Jan 26th 2015
3
I think the beef is because her comfort was based off of her husbands...
Jan 26th 2015
4
      nah, she felt the heat on them cheeks
Jan 26th 2015
13
      Umm.. ain't that commonly known as "compromise"?
Jan 27th 2015
90
           but on OKP that's a bad word
Jan 27th 2015
95
                lol
Jan 27th 2015
118
Veronica must be holding in the cakes department
Jan 26th 2015
5
Doesn't this feel almost surreal as a news story?
Jan 26th 2015
6
Why I chose to no longer wear trucker hats
Jan 26th 2015
8
Sounds like that man has a good wife
Jan 26th 2015
11
1. Why is this a story? 2. WGAF what her and her husband think or do?
Jan 26th 2015
7
It's a story because every white woman in America wheres them
Jan 26th 2015
12
I see more black and latina women rocking them than anything.
Jan 26th 2015
15
      more white women in yoga pants...
Jan 26th 2015
18
           Not where I'm at. At all. Straight black leggings more than anything
Jan 26th 2015
40
Answers: 1. Conservative pandering. 2. Conservative pandering.
Jan 26th 2015
14
      As a man I love them...
Jan 26th 2015
20
Women (including single women) do this everyday...
Jan 26th 2015
9
this has been a thing for a couple of years
Jan 26th 2015
10
the theology of yoga pants.
Jan 26th 2015
17
can we discuss this "Submit to your husband" thing
Jan 26th 2015
16
are you the head of your household?
Jan 26th 2015
21
My household doesn't have a head. It's run by partners
Jan 26th 2015
23
      I feel you, but I still think there comes a time when you will have
Jan 26th 2015
31
           Do you think the wife is often that head of the household?
Jan 26th 2015
35
                I would say they are gaining on us...
Jan 26th 2015
38
                     Not every man is a leader, though.
Jan 26th 2015
62
That would be Ephesians 5
Jan 26th 2015
22
I can pluck a ton of anachronistic quotes from the bible
Jan 26th 2015
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      You said it was new to you.
Jan 26th 2015
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           It being a THING is new to me
Jan 26th 2015
27
                How could it not be?
Jan 26th 2015
32
                It's huge and gets tied into black women being "too" independent
Jan 27th 2015
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If u a live nygga shyt just comes naturally
Jan 26th 2015
30
i think this is true 95% of the time
Jan 26th 2015
33
lmao...pretty much...and get treated as such off the bat
Jan 27th 2015
76
The average woman has no issue "submitting" to a man that she respects,
Jan 26th 2015
36
Would you be okay with your sister or daughter submitting?
Jan 26th 2015
45
      To a man whom she respects, is confident has her best interest at heart,
Jan 26th 2015
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      I find it hard to believe a man who respects a woman wants submission
Jan 26th 2015
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           That's because you don't like the word submission. By definition, it is...
Jan 26th 2015
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           all of this ^^^
Jan 26th 2015
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           why not?
Jan 26th 2015
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                If my daughter grows up and things she should submit to a man
Jan 27th 2015
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                You're looking at it on the surface, which makes the discussion pointles...
Jan 27th 2015
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                     LOFL
Jan 27th 2015
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                          and you obviously don't have enough balls for a real..
Jan 27th 2015
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                               questions masculinity too boot
Jan 27th 2015
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                                    ^^overthinks basic leadership principles to appear intelligent.
Jan 27th 2015
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                                         i'm not trying to impress any one who thinks like you
Jan 27th 2015
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                                              that's good.
Jan 27th 2015
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                you guys are on that Coming to America whatever you like steez
Jan 27th 2015
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                     that's exactly what I see.
Jan 27th 2015
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           RE: >This is her expectation as well. <-- Always been my experience
Jan 28th 2015
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           ^
Jan 27th 2015
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      I pray to God one day they will.. to a good man of course.
Jan 26th 2015
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Folks only focus on that half of the deal.
Jan 26th 2015
51
yep.. but most successful marriages have a man
Jan 26th 2015
54
      i love how often u make up things as u go
Jan 27th 2015
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           thank you... you guys are too serious on here
Jan 27th 2015
89
What yall mean when you say lead anyways
Jan 28th 2015
130
they're saying when it comes down to the come down he outranks her
Jan 28th 2015
132
It isn't a dictatorship. There's always discussion, compromise, consult...
Jan 28th 2015
137
As a Christian I hate seeing that passage misinterpreted.....
Jan 28th 2015
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She's easy to get to cheat.
Jan 26th 2015
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are they lusting or just looking??
Jan 26th 2015
25
Some dude is gonna come in here agreeing with her... just watch.
Jan 26th 2015
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see: avatar
Jan 26th 2015
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LMAO
Jan 26th 2015
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yo, what kind of leggings did she have? them shits are expensive
Jan 26th 2015
34
they really are ridiculously expensive...bae got me a bunch of nike gear
Jan 26th 2015
41
LOL I got my girl a few for christmas and she said the exact same thing
Jan 26th 2015
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So, you've got a few pair for yourself huh?
Jan 26th 2015
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I know what you like bro
Jan 26th 2015
      Funny how his thoughts went there instead of reply 58
Jan 26th 2015
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           dat unconscious preference
Jan 26th 2015
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                I just figured you do a lot of running outside in the winter.
Jan 27th 2015
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                     you were thinking about my booty in that spandex bro
Jan 27th 2015
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                          LOFL
Jan 27th 2015
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                          hahahaha
Jan 28th 2015
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                          damn reb'n aint like that one lol
Jan 28th 2015
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                          STUPID SEXY RJCC
Jan 28th 2015
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                          Zing.
Jan 28th 2015
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lol
Jan 26th 2015
49
Light skinned girls in Yoga pants....
Jan 26th 2015
39
any girls with nice bodies in yoga pants
Jan 26th 2015
50
lol.
Jan 26th 2015
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If this post is so Playery
Jan 26th 2015
44
if she likes it i love it.
Jan 26th 2015
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RE: if she likes it i love it.
Jan 26th 2015
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i don't think this woman has the power to set a general rule for women.
Jan 26th 2015
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Basically
Jan 26th 2015
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This is where i'm at
Jan 27th 2015
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next step: burqa
Jan 26th 2015
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plenty women choose the burqa for themselves.
Jan 26th 2015
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looking at chicks and having the desire to fuck is why we're
Jan 26th 2015
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japan apparently has a childbearing demographic problem
Jan 28th 2015
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I don't like yoga pants
Jan 26th 2015
67
"two people can't lead" LOFL.
Jan 26th 2015
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that nigga just be making shit up
Jan 27th 2015
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OLDSCHOOOOOOL!!!
Jan 27th 2015
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the shit so goofy I can't discuss it
Jan 27th 2015
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honestly, I'm glad we're losing their type of life recipes
Jan 27th 2015
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      ^^getting marrying to his own damn self next week ^^
Jan 27th 2015
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           really bad joke brah
Jan 27th 2015
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it really does come down to a lack of respect for women
Jan 27th 2015
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      so if a woman expects her husband to act as the leader within the family...
Jan 27th 2015
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           you dont respect women
Jan 27th 2015
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                You mean this comment?
Jan 27th 2015
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                lol k
Jan 27th 2015
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                     yeah exactly.
Jan 27th 2015
108
                          you put her in her place.
Jan 27th 2015
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                               oh, so we're interacting again, I guess.
Jan 27th 2015
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                               no. we're not.
Jan 27th 2015
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                                    yeah. exactly.
Jan 27th 2015
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                                         right.
Jan 27th 2015
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                                              word.
Jan 27th 2015
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                               :-)
Jan 27th 2015
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                               bwhahahaha
Jan 27th 2015
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                and many women are conditioned this way too.
Jan 27th 2015
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                look at you reading things into this MAN's relationship
Jan 27th 2015
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                     oh silly me..
Jan 28th 2015
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                     I can't know what I'm talking about bc I'm not married to a woman.
Jan 28th 2015
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                          As a rich white person who has studied poor black people....
Jan 28th 2015
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                               Yup. It's exactly like that, homie.
Jan 28th 2015
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                you didn't answer the question
Jan 28th 2015
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how can you look at this and not have a religious experience?
Jan 27th 2015
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these are the hidden gems that make me keep coming by OKP...
Jan 27th 2015
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most under ratede reply in the whole thing
Jan 28th 2015
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This woman needs a fucking thesaurus
Jan 27th 2015
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I like the part where the onus is on the women
Jan 27th 2015
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Feel conviction come over your conviction to not be convicted
Jan 27th 2015
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You're wearing tight yoga pants with a nice ass
Jan 27th 2015
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if she doesn't feel comfortable in leggings, she shouldn't wear them
Jan 27th 2015
101
we're talking about daily clothing and not workout wear but
Jan 27th 2015
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trust me..nobody looking at THAT bidge
Jan 28th 2015
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real world= men lead families....okp= you dont respect women
Jan 28th 2015
125
being a leader and having someone submit to you
Jan 28th 2015
129
yea like someone said before maybe u have a problem with the word
Jan 28th 2015
136
      Yall still havent answered me LEAD THEM TO WHAT? n/m
Jan 28th 2015
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      stability
Jan 28th 2015
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           Hmm I need to process this
Jan 28th 2015
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                this is what i need answered
Jan 28th 2015
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                It doesn't. It's preference.
Jan 28th 2015
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                it ain't for everybody.
Jan 28th 2015
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                     *nods*
Jan 28th 2015
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                          yup. and then they trot out that Bible.
Jan 28th 2015
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                          hate myself for taking this bait
Jan 28th 2015
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                               if you wanna live by the Bible that's fine.
Jan 28th 2015
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                          who said that?
Jan 28th 2015
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                               Are you trying to lawyer me LOL
Jan 28th 2015
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                                    I honestly didn't pay that any attention. I responded directly to John ...
Jan 28th 2015
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                men and women bring two different things to the relationship right?
Jan 28th 2015
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      But leaders shouldn't have to demand submission
Jan 28th 2015
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           you lead by example, no one is demanding anything
Jan 28th 2015
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           Yes some cats out here DEMANDING it
Jan 28th 2015
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           I don't see anyone "demanding" or "pointing" to anything.
Jan 28th 2015
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                and they say EYE make shit up...lol
Jan 28th 2015
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                Saying "That's the way it is" is an appeal to authority
Jan 28th 2015
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                     That's the way it is in MY house, fam.
Jan 28th 2015
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                          That's great
Jan 28th 2015
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                               ok got it.
Jan 28th 2015
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pretty much.
Jan 28th 2015
135
this.
Jan 28th 2015
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exactly...
Jan 28th 2015
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it's funny how leading families seems to correlate with
Jan 28th 2015
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      There is both covert cism and covert xism
Jan 28th 2015
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folks arguing about some stretch pants ? lolz
Jan 28th 2015
128

Stevie Lee
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1. "please don't stop wearing them."
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139. "^^^^^^^"
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2. "freelance onion article"
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just sayin

  

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3. "good for her & her husband. its abt what shes comfy with"
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if she doesnt wanna wear something she doesnt think is cool...dont.


does it really matter?

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4. "I think the beef is because her comfort was based off of her husbands..."
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not her's

Just playing devil's advocate.

  

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13. "nah, she felt the heat on them cheeks"
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most women LOVE the attention...



  

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90. "Umm.. ain't that commonly known as "compromise"?"
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Plenty of the stuff you do in partnerships is about the comfort of the other person.


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95. "but on OKP that's a bad word"
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118. "lol"
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5. "Veronica must be holding in the cakes department"
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mind
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6. "Doesn't this feel almost surreal as a news story?"
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I mean GMA decided to do a story on a ladies decision to stop wearing a type of clothes?


Anyway, why does anyone give a sh*t that another person decides to stop wearing a type of clothes?

Another note. She kinda bad. I watched the segment hoping they would show a before shot of her in yoga pants.


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8. "Why I chose to no longer wear trucker hats"
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Mon Jan-26-15 01:59 PM by PimpTrickGangstaClik

          

Why I chose to no longer wear plaid
Why I chose to no longer wear white BEFORE Labor Day

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11. "Sounds like that man has a good wife"
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she will still wear them in private.

My wife is the same way. She won't wear leggings or yoga pants with her ass out in public.

and it isn't for religious purposes, she just doesn't like wearing tight stuff in public.





  

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7. "1. Why is this a story? 2. WGAF what her and her husband think or do?"
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12. "It's a story because every white woman in America wheres them"
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3 times a week.

It's an obsession.

Imagine 80% of men wearing those under armor tight shirts EVERYDAY for the last 3 years?



  

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15. "I see more black and latina women rocking them than anything. "
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Basically, they’re just really common and the demographics shift according to where I’m at.

  

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18. "more white women in yoga pants..."
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Blacks and Latina's in more leopard and crazy printed leggings but these white women LOVE some yoga pants.

  

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40. "Not where I'm at. At all. Straight black leggings more than anything "
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And Blacks and Latinas rock 'em far more.

  

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14. "Answers: 1. Conservative pandering. 2. Conservative pandering. "
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This is very basic shit that anyone who has sat in a men’s or women’s group at church (or even attended church) has heard discussed in one form or another at least twenty-million times.

-For men, it’s about making that so-called covenant with their eyes so as not to gaze lecherously at his sisters.

-For women, it’s about being vigilant toward the image they portray and deciding not to dress in a way that will lead their brothers into lustful temptation,
It’s a news story because it will strike a chord in conservatives and eye rolls from liberals will get views/hits/etc and people will discuss it fervently, leading to more views/hits/etc, more passionate discussion, more views, and eventually someone gets paid because of it.

Truth be told, cutting religion out of the discussion still yields worthwhile discussion. I think leggings are tacky and a bit trashy personally as part of an actual wardrobe, but her husband speaketh the truth. It’s still sexy as hell.

As a husband/father/brother/son/friend, I don’t need religion to tell me “hey, you really shouldn’t be looking at these women like pieces of meat when wearing those”. Far be it from me to suggest women should or shouldn’t wear them, but I also think it’s laughable to expect men to view women in leggings the way they would view them in a moo-moo. Likewise, if she’s making her personal choice based on how she believes in her religion, far be it from anyone else to say she’s wrong for that choice. It’s really not as simple as RABBLERABBLERABBLE!!!!! PATRIARCHY! RABBLERABBLERABBLE!!!! RELIGION IS EVIL!!! RABBLERABBLERABBLE!!!

So, it's a story because people will talk about it, it will put eyes on their product, and someone will ultimately get paid.

  

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legsdiamond
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20. "As a man I love them..."
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but yes, they are also tacky as shit and while I admire what I see...

ain't no way in hell I would want my wife showing the world her goods.

even if I wanted her to wear them, she wouldn't have her ass out because she doesn't like to dress like that.

  

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9. "Women (including single women) do this everyday..."
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she just wrote a blog about it.

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10. "this has been a thing for a couple of years"
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Mon Jan-26-15 02:13 PM by SouthernGul

          

among white conservative christians
a bunch of blogs about it

one of the early adopters:
http://phyliciadelta.com/that-day-i-wore-yoga-pants-5-myths-about-modesty/

https://pastorrickhermann.wordpress.com/2014/03/26/the-theology-of-yoga-pants/

  

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17. "the theology of yoga pants."
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16. "can we discuss this "Submit to your husband" thing"
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I'm just learning about this...not that some people thing that women should be submissive, but that it's viewed as a Christian value. I can't wrap my head around this. One of my boys is newly religious, and he's on this shit. Today I saw a FB post asking if a woman should submit to her man before marriage.

  

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21. "are you the head of your household? "
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23. "My household doesn't have a head. It's run by partners"
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31. "I feel you, but I still think there comes a time when you will have"
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to answer that question.

I think you know the answer too.

There can't be 2 people running a company. Someone has to take the lead. This doesn't mean she is less than or you are less than. However, I think successful marriages always have a head of household.

I also think this is the reason women are marrying themselves.



  

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35. "Do you think the wife is often that head of the household?"
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Nowadays, anyway?

  

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38. "I would say they are gaining on us..."
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a lot of women are making more money... and making sure they marry soft ass dudes who will let them use that financial statement as some sort of power trip.

I also think it's why a lot of women aren't married. They want a good man who will be a simp or no man at all.


I wont say it's more common but a lot of women are raised to believe that "submit" means more than it does...

one other thing, being that my mom raised us as a single mother I see why some women think they need to be the head. They watched guys dip and don't want to be in the same position.. and that fear leads them to believe they have to wear the pants





  

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62. "Not every man is a leader, though."
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I know more than a couple of men who need what I call mother-wives.

And I think, if she is fine with being the leader and he's willing to
accept her leadership, that arrangement is the right one.



I'm not fine with being a mother-wife. However, I'm also used to the final word usually being mine. -_-

  

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22. "That would be Ephesians 5"
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And to add further context, it's a letter from (thought to be) Paul,
written while imprisoned, to the Ephesians about how the Church is to behave.


21 Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.

22 Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord.
23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior.
24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her
26 to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word,
27and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless.
28 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself.
29 After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church—
30 for we are members of his body.
31 “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.”
32 This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church.
33 However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.

  

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24. "I can pluck a ton of anachronistic quotes from the bible"
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I just didn't realize people still rocked with submission as a value.

  

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26. "You said it was new to you."
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I'm just giving you the actual scripture that people who think this way use to back up their ideas.


  

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27. "It being a THING is new to me"
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Like something that Christians actually discuss and aspire to in modern times.

  

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32. "How could it not be?"
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People have been using religious dogma to oppress and suppress for a very, very long time.

As rampant as sexism and misogyny are, how could this scripture not be touted incessantly?
My response is always to finish the scripture for them and remind them
that Jesus loved the church so much, he died for it. I ask them if they are
loving their wives, or are prepared to love their future wives, more than themselves.

We never get past this part to even begin discussing it deeper, lol. *shrug*

  

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74. "It's huge and gets tied into black women being "too" independent"
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>Like something that Christians actually discuss and aspire to
>in modern times.

I see this pop up any time there's a discussion about why black people aren't getting married.

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30. "If u a live nygga shyt just comes naturally"
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#uliteskintho

but im banned tho.
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33. "i think this is true 95% of the time"
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the other 5% of the time are live niggas playing the stedman position
it's not even about patriarchy with in the home either
just the way society is set up, it's going end up working out that way if you're handling biz

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76. "lmao...pretty much...and get treated as such off the bat"
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Coolin...

  

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36. "The average woman has no issue "submitting" to a man that she respects,"
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confidently feels has her best interest at heart, and will put her before himself when it comes to care, safety, etc.

That being said, this doesn't even seem to be about that because she brought the issue to him, not the other way around.

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45. "Would you be okay with your sister or daughter submitting?"
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46. "To a man whom she respects, is confident has her best interest at heart,"
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and puts her before himself when it comes to her care, safety etc.

My father-in-law has said to my wife in front of me that she needs to honor me in that way, and that's because he respects that I care for her in the way he expects a man to.

It isn't a dirty concept.

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47. "I find it hard to believe a man who respects a woman wants submission"
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48. "That's because you don't like the word submission. By definition, it is..."
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"accept or yield to a superior force or to the authority or will of another person."

Basically treat a man like the man.

In my household, I consult my wife on most things (which is the respect you speak of), but when it comes down to it, especially the big shit, it mostly comes down to my call.

This is her expectation as well.

It isn't to say that she can't do it, or couldn't do it if I wasn't around, but as the man I'm the head. I'm the leader.

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53. "all of this ^^^ "
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2 people can't lead... one has to fall back just a little bit or there will be chaos.

  

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55. "why not?"
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and why must one partner be leading the other?
I am not saying the submit thing can't work.

But I don't see how chaos is the LIKELY result
if neither partner thinks one has any kind of authority over the other.

I don't even think I'd want my kids to show that kind of deference to me.

that's me though.



>2 people can't lead... one has to fall back just a little bit
>or there will be chaos.

  

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79. "If my daughter grows up and things she should submit to a man"
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I've fucked up somewhere along the way.

  

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81. "You're looking at it on the surface, which makes the discussion pointles..."
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84. "LOFL"
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86. "and you obviously don't have enough balls for a real.."
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contribution to the discussion.

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91. "questions masculinity too boot"
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when some one laughs at his troglodyte social constructions

  

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92. "^^overthinks basic leadership principles to appear intelligent."
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I'm not impressed.

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97. "i'm not trying to impress any one who thinks like you"
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ever

understand that

  

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98. "that's good."
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for you.

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94. "you guys are on that Coming to America whatever you like steez"
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this isn't about 10 paces back, speak when spoken too...

it's moreso about who makes the final decision when shit gets serious.







  

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96. "that's exactly what I see."
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They act as if it's some sort of bow-down-kiss-the-ring-the-royal-penis-is-clean-your-highness stuff.

No.

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126. "RE: >This is her expectation as well. <-- Always been my experience"
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I don't think I've ever dated a woman who didn't WANT me to lead.
Hell I've even known women to outright SAY that.
Even if they don't though, it just seems obvious to me.

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102. "^"
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i mean i give a fck but i don't give that much of a fck

  

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52. "I pray to God one day they will.. to a good man of course. "
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my oldest sister is old school like shit. She won't be voting for Hillary because she doesn't want a woman running the country.

You are too hung up on the word submit like it's some caveman shit.

All it means is when it comes gut check time.... the man of the house will step up and lead the way.



  

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51. "Folks only focus on that half of the deal."
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And leave out the '...treat your wife like Christ treated the church' part.

Christ took his shirt off, got on his knees and washed his followers' feet. So that part of the bible calls for humility in both directions.

That conveniently gets ignored by controlling niggas, though.

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54. "yep.. but most successful marriages have a man "
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who will do anything for his wife...within reason of course.

If you love your wife and treat her as your equal she will submit because she loves you just as much and knows you have her best interest at heart.

This doesn't mean she can't make decisions on her own or the man makes major decisions without consulting his wife.

  

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71. "i love how often u make up things as u go"
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Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

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89. "thank you... you guys are too serious on here "
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130. "What yall mean when you say lead anyways"
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I am not being funny.

What big decisions on a household that aren't made by compromise and consensus? No one is going to get all he or she needs/wants every time.

Unless this is related to the stereotype of women being scatterbrained hand-wringing ninnies that cant make a decision.


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132. "they're saying when it comes down to the come down he outranks her"
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and that's being generous to them.

  

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131. "As a Christian I hate seeing that passage misinterpreted....."
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because a lot of guys read and think that women are supposed to just do what they say and that's not what the Bible says.

Basically, a man is supposed to be submissive to God before any woman follows suit. A man should be holding the house as a provider to his wife and children. He also should be living a life that's spiritually fruitful meaning that he brings out the better traits of his family instead of provoking the worst.

But a lot of guys just see the word 'submit' and act as if their wife is supposed to sit and stay like a dog. smh

All the Bible is really asking a woman to do is to let her man be the man as long as he's doing what he supposed to do.


As far as the OP goes....it seems more that the blogger got rid of yoga pants out of respect for her husband and her marriage. I can respect that.

  

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25. "are they lusting or just looking??"
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...if you fine, i'ma look and enjoy the visual, doesn't mean i'm thinking bout gettin AT you...

..sounds overboard, but i agree with the "if u happy, i'm happy" sentiment...

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37. "LMAO"
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34. "yo, what kind of leggings did she have? them shits are expensive"
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you get em from nike or lululemon that's some cash right there

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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R A i n
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41. "they really are ridiculously expensive...bae got me a bunch of nike gear"
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for xmas...i was like wtf...i could get 5 shirts at pretty girl for what you paid for one...lmao. they feel so comfy though. :-/

...
we understand you can easily come back and we're not impressed. how about getting a life first. okpdan

  

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58. "LOL I got my girl a few for christmas and she said the exact same thing"
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she runs real early in the morning sometimes so I got her some 3M joints

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42. "So, you've got a few pair for yourself huh?"
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"Today is your day to have a better life -- it's your right."

  

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"I know what you like bro"


          


www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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Ted Gee Seal
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59. "Funny how his thoughts went there instead of reply 58"
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Which would be the normal person's assumption.

Just IMO though.

  

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68. "dat unconscious preference"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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87. "I just figured you do a lot of running outside in the winter."
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Since you like to run your mouth the way you do.

DJ needs some attention.

  

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99. "you were thinking about my booty in that spandex bro"
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and for good reason, it looks juicy just like you like it.

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121. "LOFL"
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159. "hahahaha"
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167. "damn reb'n aint like that one lol"
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169. "STUPID SEXY RJCC"
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_____________________________________________________________

DROkayplayer 2004: I forgot to change my sig.

  

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170. "Zing."
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>and for good reason, it looks juicy just like you like it.
>

His mind just keeps going back there for some reason.

Just IMO though.

  

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49. "lol"
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39. "Light skinned girls in Yoga pants.... "
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proof that God is a man....


You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.

  

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50. "any girls with nice bodies in yoga pants"
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R A i n
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43. "lol. "
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we understand you can easily come back and we're not impressed. how about getting a life first. okpdan

  

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44. "If this post is so Playery"
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"Today is your day to have a better life -- it's your right."

  

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56. "if she likes it i love it."
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nothing wrong w/her wanting to keep her body to herself and her husband. many women around the world do this of their own volition and not b/c their husband forces it on them. it's called modesty - there's nothing wrong w/it. as long as it's HER choice.

if she chooses to dress in ways that don't have her body on display for men other than her husband that's great. she should do that shit.

fuck you.

  

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60. "RE: if she likes it i love it."
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>nothing wrong w/her wanting to keep her body to herself and
>her husband. many women around the world do this of their own
>volition and not b/c their husband forces it on them. it's
>called modesty - there's nothing wrong w/it. as long as it's
>HER choice.
>
>if she chooses to dress in ways that don't have her body on
>display for men other than her husband that's great. she
>should do that shit.

If it's a personal choice, yeah, if it's part of a plan to try to shame other women into acting the same way, I'm less enthused. My wife wears them because she finds them genuinely comfortable. She'll wear them casually at home. I don't like the idea that a man's inability to control his own thoughts leads to a burden for a woman as a general rule. That's unfortunately how these things go sometimes in Christian circles. Burning leggings instead of books or records.

Just IMO though.

  

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63. "i don't think this woman has the power to set a general rule for women."
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so i'm not worried about that.

it's her choice for herself and that's fine w/me. if other women hear about this and make the same choice for themselves that's great too.

i'd be worried if governments here in the USA were talking about mandating this. but that's not the case so it's all good as far as i'm concerned.

fuck you.

  

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66. "Basically"
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73. "This is where i'm at"
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i'm not mad at all

im also not that much of a fan of the yoga pants trend...my mind and my eyes are at odds

Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

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61. "next step: burqa"
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not the very next step, but it's on the same road. wear what you want, lady. don't let a book or a man pick out your clothes for you.

"i smack clowns with nouns, punch herbs with verbs..."

  

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64. "plenty women choose the burqa for themselves."
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and that's great for them. and for any other woman who chooses it herself.

it's not cool if women are forced to cover up against their will. but if it's their choice...fine by me.

fuck you.

  

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65. "looking at chicks and having the desire to fuck is why we're"
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here right now having silly discussions on the internet, simple biology.

  

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162. "japan apparently has a childbearing demographic problem"
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maybe japanese women need to rock them across the country.

  

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67. "I don't like yoga pants "
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Leggings are cool for around the house or the gym, I wouldn't wear them out of the house.

BUT them american apparel unitards are my shit, I have them in all the colors that they offer except white

  

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69. ""two people can't lead" LOFL. "
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"of course I want my sister, daughter, female cousin to submit to a good man"

"you're upset about the word submit which means bow to a superior force"

no wonder you neanderthals lost your shit when you entered R-tistic's post today...

I really don't know why this is a story

  

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72. "that nigga just be making shit up"
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Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

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88. "OLDSCHOOOOOOL!!! "
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77. "the shit so goofy I can't discuss it "
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83. "honestly, I'm glad we're losing their type of life recipes"
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it's so steeped in western patriarchal anti-science logic of control, I understand there is no need to debate it.

  

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93. "^^getting marrying to his own damn self next week ^^"
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100. "really bad joke brah"
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try harder

  

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103. "it really does come down to a lack of respect for women"
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i mean i give a fck but i don't give that much of a fck

  

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104. "so if a woman expects her husband to act as the leader within the family..."
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she doesn't respect....herself?

C'mon with this.

Really.

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105. "you dont respect women"
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you dont respect your wife's decision making capabilities either, judging from comment #48

i mean i give a fck but i don't give that much of a fck

  

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106. "You mean this comment?"
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"In my household, I consult my wife on most things (which is the respect you speak of), but when it comes down to it, especially the big shit, it mostly comes down to my call.

This is her expectation as well.

It isn't to say that she can't do it, or couldn't do it if I wasn't around, but as the man I'm the head. I'm the leader."

If so, what I don't respect is your reading comprehension.

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107. "lol k"
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>"In my household, I consult my wife on most things (which is
>the respect you speak of), but when it comes down to it,
>especially the big shit, it mostly comes down to my call.
>
>This is her expectation as well.
>
>It isn't to say that she can't do it, or couldn't do it if I
>wasn't around, but as the man I'm the head. I'm the leader."
>
>If so, what I don't respect is your reading comprehension.
>

i mean i give a fck but i don't give that much of a fck

  

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108. "yeah exactly. "
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110. "you put her in her place."
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hopefully she'll learn to stay in a woman's place when she's talking to a man.

she may not be used to talking to a Real Man like yourself.

but she learned today!

fuck you.

  

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111. "oh, so we're interacting again, I guess."
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112. "no. we're not."
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fuck you.

  

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113. "yeah. exactly."
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114. "right."
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fuck you.

  

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115. "word."
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117. ":-)"
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i mean i give a fck but i don't give that much of a fck

  

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astralblak
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119. "bwhahahaha"
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babality

  

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109. "and many women are conditioned this way too."
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they want their man to 'be the man' and make the hard decisions on certain issues. they don't know that they can make those decisions on their own.

it's a problem when these women lose their man to death or divorce. and then have to figure out the ways of the world after yrs of having been sheltered from making the hard decisions on the big issues b/c she allowed him to make them. some women do this simply b/c they don't know another way. i think some do it b/c it's easy. of course some do it b/c they've been bullied.

the smart ones who choose that life and are really about it make sure they know what's going on and are ready in case they need to step into that role themselves after he's gone. or if he's away temporarily due to illness or military service or incarceration or a host of other possibilities.

i had an aunt like that - her husband made all the decisions and treated her like a queen. and after he was gone she was a mess. she couldn't even write a check! let alone balance a check book. she barely knew how many bank accounts they had. it was sad. it took years for her to get her affairs in order. many women like her end up remarrying just b/c they can't function w/o a man to 'lead them'. thankfully this happens less frequently these days. b/c women are smarter about these issues, generally.

fuck you.

  

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120. "look at you reading things into this MAN's relationship"
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and basic principles of power and leadership

typical of a gay, over thinking things, just like a woman

learn your biologically determined social position SoWhat

I did in replies 86-98. you can too, if you just listen and learn to be a real man

  

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123. "oh silly me.."
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I'm discussing something I actually have first hand experience in.

I forgot this is the land of OKP.

Where single people are marital experts.

Hundredaires are experts on millionaires

Those without child are experts on raising children.

Etc.

Qualification should never get in the way of perfectly good entertainment.

Lol!

Let me sit back and enjoy this rather than participate.

Enjoy your day!

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127. "I can't know what I'm talking about bc I'm not married to a woman."
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Having studied the subject, having interviewed women who live this life and having observed several others - it doesn't matter as much as the experience of one person basing their statements solely on their limited experience. I get it.

fuck you.

  

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133. "As a rich white person who has studied poor black people...."
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and have interviewed and observed many black people who live in destitute conditions, I am so much more qualified to speak on the topic than actual black people who live in those neighborhoods, grew up poor, and whose family and friends grew up in the same living conditions.

It's only right.

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134. "Yup. It's exactly like that, homie."
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One hundred percent.

fuck you.

  

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124. "you didn't answer the question"
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70. "how can you look at this and not have a religious experience?"
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http://i.imgur.com/2RqGDuN.gifv
http://i.imgur.com/v5JC0zT.gifv

That is purely a gift from da lawud! I know when I first seent this, had a nigga speaking in tongues like somebody mama coming on a Honda and shit!

This bitch batty as shit!

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75. "these are the hidden gems that make me keep coming by OKP..."
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...random ass post... and yet... Glory can be found within.

Bless you.

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message brought to you by...

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148. "most under ratede reply in the whole thing"
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78. "This woman needs a fucking thesaurus "
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80. "I like the part where the onus is on the women"
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to keep other man from lusting.


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huh

  

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82. "Feel conviction come over your conviction to not be convicted"
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85. "You're wearing tight yoga pants with a nice ass"
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And I'm not suppose to look? Really

And as long as I don't stare or say anything inappropriate to you what difference does it make if I fantasize about having sex with you

I mean as long as you aren't a friend or having sex with a friend.

dude

  

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101. "if she doesn't feel comfortable in leggings, she shouldn't wear them"
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--
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-Ben (Reaper)

If you need any help, don't. Hesitate to ask.

  

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116. "we're talking about daily clothing and not workout wear but"
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Yoga pants ain't shit as far as sexy workout clothes go. Chicks in the 90s had the standard uniform of a thong back leotard over bicycle shorts or full length tights, or a full body unitard with a thong thrown over the top of it. Shit was bananas. I remember moms coming to the gym with their teenage daughters both dressed like that.

everyone always likes to act like things are getting more extreme, when they just aren't. disco chicks in the 70's were wearing those shiny full body spandex suits.

  

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122. "trust me..nobody looking at THAT bidge"
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------------------------------------
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be about it or be without it

RIP GOATs

  

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125. "real world= men lead families....okp= you dont respect women"
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you gotta love this place
never change guys

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129. "being a leader and having someone submit to you"
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are two different things.

  

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136. "yea like someone said before maybe u have a problem with the word"
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because when someone is leading you
you submit to their leadership
it has nothing to do with "keeping a woman in her place"
hey im not married
but every girl ive dated seriously
has said they want their man to lead them
i date regular black girls

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140. "Yall still havent answered me LEAD THEM TO WHAT? n/m"
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huh

  

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decaturpsalm
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142. "stability"
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im not joking either
whether that is financial, or emotional, or spiritual
whatever it may be
the women I have dealt with want a man she
can entrust the task of building the kind
of life she wants for herself and her family

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145. "Hmm I need to process this"
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because if someone needs another person to "lead" them into stability my first thought is what happened along the way that you didn't learn this from parents or what have you?

And why does having a penis make a person more apt at leadership?

I may be struggling with why arent you(general) stable or something before you enter a relationship. I’m not talking about perfection, but wholeness. If you bring an unhealthy YOU into a relationship with another unhealthy person, you have already put your relationship in jeopardy and then comes that STRUGGLE.




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146. "this is what i need answered"
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>And why does having a penis make a person more apt at
>leadership?

i mean i give a fck but i don't give that much of a fck

  

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149. "It doesn't. It's preference."
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I'm not saying that men in all situations should lead and that such is required for ALL marriages to be "successful".

There are many situations where I don't lead.

It's just a preferential default.

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150. "it ain't for everybody."
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i think if there are women out there who choose this life and are aware that it doesn't HAVE TO be that way and they choose to submit to a man they respect and are comfortable w/his leadership then it's all good.

as long as women know they don't have to live that way. that there's nothing wrong w/them choosing another way of being.

that's where i disagree w/the mindset these dudes are advocating - that idea that that life is the 'natural order of things' is bullshit. it's fine if some men and women choose it for themselves but those of us who don't choose it haven't made an error. we're not living wrong b/c we don't live as they choose. but...that works both ways. so if those women choose that life for themselves it's fine by me.

fuck you.

  

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153. "*nods*"
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it's fine if some men and women choose
>it for themselves but those of us who don't choose it haven't
>made an error. we're not living wrong b/c we don't live as
>they choose. but...that works both ways. so if those women
>choose that life for themselves it's fine by me.

I think this is what gets stuck in my craw. Folks are saying thats why _____women are NOT married because they WONT submit.
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huh

  

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154. "yup. and then they trot out that Bible."
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as the fuck if.

fuck you.

  

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157. "hate myself for taking this bait"
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but yall go so hard on here about respecting ppls
beliefs and lifestyle choices
but as soon as any mention of something biblical comes up
its all "fuck that shit!!!!!111"
lol hypocrisy is funny

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158. "if you wanna live by the Bible that's fine."
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but there's nothing wrong w/my choice not to.

most ppl who choose the Bible life would tell me i'm wrong not to make the same choice. i disagree about that. and that's what i was referring to when i brought that up, player.

do your thing. i'll do mine.

fuck you.

  

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155. "who said that?"
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>I think this is what gets stuck in my craw. Folks are saying
>thats why _____women are NOT married because they WONT
>submit.

I must have missed it. Not trying to be sarcastic either. I genuinely don't see where this was stated.

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161. "Are you trying to lawyer me LOL"
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One of the first derails of this post was:

"are you the head of your household" asked of a man because he questioned the whole submission thing

Then
You cant have two people running a company someone has to lead and the default is the penis possessor.

So now its a preference instead of woven throughout the history of marital relations OKAY??

The underlining theme of this ENTIRE conversation is basically men are the best decision makers because penis.

But now its a preference *kisses teeth*
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164. "I honestly didn't pay that any attention. I responded directly to John ..."
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But with regard to this:

>So now its a preference instead of woven throughout the
>history of marital relations OKAY??

from the gate, I have never stated that it's a requirement of all women. So for me to state that it's a preference isn't a contradiction of anything I've said.

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147. "men and women bring two different things to the relationship right?"
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how men and women process emotions and information and see the world
is totally different
this is all opinion on my part of course
but I dont think women are "unstable"
or in "need" of leadership but when it comes to making
a family and progressing in life, they have shown
that they want a man that can take control of situations
where a man's pov and decision making will impact them positively.

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141. "But leaders shouldn't have to demand submission"
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>because when someone is leading you
>you submit to their leadership
>it has nothing to do with "keeping a woman in her place"
>hey im not married
>but every girl ive dated seriously
>has said they want their man to lead them
>i date regular black girls


I think part of the controversy here is some men demanding submission as a birthright... due to their gender and title... i.e. "I'm the man, therefore I'm the head of household, therefore you, woman, should submit to me".

That's a weak way of getting a women to follow. A man's actions, decision making and general wisdom should be self evident and inspire the woman to follow. A good leader also knows when to cede control and let others lead as well.

Pointing to your title is, in general, a weak way of projecting power and suggests insecurity rather than authority.

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143. "you lead by example, no one is demanding anything"
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If a woman knows you cant hold down a job
you suck with kids
and you cant read her emotions
then she knows you cant lead her
its really simple
You cant appoint yourself a leader just because you got a dick
some niggas cant lead

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156. "Yes some cats out here DEMANDING it"
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by virtue of being born with a penis
You may not do it but its enough of it going around that make people say HUH??
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144. "I don't see anyone "demanding" or "pointing" to anything."
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>I think part of the controversy here is some men demanding
>submission as a birthright... due to their gender and title...
>i.e. "I'm the man, therefore I'm the head of household,
>therefore you, woman, should submit to me".
>
>That's a weak way of getting a women to follow. A man's
>actions, decision making and general wisdom should be self
>evident and inspire the woman to follow. A good leader also
>knows when to cede control and let others lead as well.
>
>Pointing to your title is, in general, a weak way of
>projecting power and suggests insecurity rather than
>authority.

Most are just saying that's the way that it is, partially because the woman desires it from the man she deems worthy of such respect.

Also, we have said that it isn't as you say "You, woman, should submit to me".

All we have said is that we assume lead.

That's it.

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152. "and they say EYE make shit up...lol"
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no one said a word about demanding submission.

  

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160. "Saying "That's the way it is" is an appeal to authority"
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>
>>I think part of the controversy here is some men demanding
>>submission as a birthright... due to their gender and
>title...
>>i.e. "I'm the man, therefore I'm the head of household,
>>therefore you, woman, should submit to me".
>>
>>That's a weak way of getting a women to follow. A man's
>>actions, decision making and general wisdom should be self
>>evident and inspire the woman to follow. A good leader also
>>knows when to cede control and let others lead as well.
>>
>>Pointing to your title is, in general, a weak way of
>>projecting power and suggests insecurity rather than
>>authority.
>
>Most are just saying that's the way that it is, partially
>because the woman desires it from the man she deems worthy of
>such respect.
>
>Also, we have said that it isn't as you say "You, woman,
>should submit to me".
>
>All we have said is that we assume lead.
>
>That's it.


"that's what most women want" = another appeal to authority

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-authority

You're just finding different ways of saying that you should lead because you are the man in the relationship.

I'm saying that argument isn't persuasive when people are asking "WHY?"


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163. "That's the way it is in MY house, fam."
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And yes, in MY experience most women are fine with allowing their HUSBAND to be the lead in their family if the husband is COMPETENT.

My argument doesn't need to be persuasive to YOU.

I'm stating facts based on my experience and arguing not that this should be the structure for everyone, but that it isn't somehow disrespectful or degrading to the women who choose to live this way.

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165. "That's great"
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>And yes, in MY experience most women are fine with allowing
>their HUSBAND to be the lead in their family if the husband is
>COMPETENT.

After reading some of your other posts, I see you've mentioned the competence part before. I think that's key so we're not far off in opinon. I just think this often overlooked when people are discussing this topic.

I was not attacking you, just addressing why your general position doesn't always translate.

>My argument doesn't need to be persuasive to YOU.

Didn't ask you to persuade me.

>I'm stating facts based on my experience and arguing not that
>this should be the structure for everyone, but that it isn't
>somehow disrespectful or degrading to the women who choose to
>live this way.

Ok.

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166. "ok got it."
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135. "pretty much."
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138. "this."
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http://instagram.com/hoodlogic

  

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151. "exactly... "
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this place is unreal at times...

  

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168. "it's funny how leading families seems to correlate with"
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"I'm not sure if those dozens of rape victims really got raped"

it's almost like some people consistently put the statements of women at a lower level, throughout their daily life.

hmm.

weird shit.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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Ted Gee Seal
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171. "There is both covert cism and covert xism"
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>"I'm not sure if those dozens of rape victims really got
>raped"
>
>it's almost like some people consistently put the statements
>of women at a lower level, throughout their daily life.
>
>hmm.
>
>weird shit.
>
>www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

Just IMO though.

  

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neuro_OSX
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128. "folks arguing about some stretch pants ? lolz"
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"You used to be so cool, but now, you know you're so cold"

  

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