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shamus
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"Low-Income Boys Fare Worse in Wealthier Neighborhoods (Duke study)"


  

          

Thoughts?

The findings are a bit troubling considering this:
"Many policymakers in England and the U.S. have viewed mixed-income neighborhoods as a potential remedy for the toxic effects of poverty, such as increased risks of crime and delinquency. But the new research suggests that this theory be viewed with caution."

Since the study was done in England and Wales, does that mean that it has application over here?


http://today.duke.edu/2015/01/low-incomeboys

Low-income boys fare worse, not better, when they grow up alongside more affluent neighbors, according to new findings from Duke University. In fact, the greater the economic gap between the boys and their neighbors, the worse the effects, says the new article based on 12 years of research.

“Our hope was that we would find economically mixed communities that allowed low-income children access to greater resources and the opportunity to thrive,” said Candice Odgers, associate director of the Duke Center for Child and Family Policy. “Instead, we found what appears to be the opposite effect.”

The findings appear online January 22 in the Journal of Child Psychology and Psychiatry: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jcpp.12380/abstract.

Odgers and her colleagues followed 1,600 children in urban and suburban areas of England and Wales from birth to age 12. The research team conducted intensive home assessments, surveyed teachers and neighbors and collected additional data including census information and parent reports.

The team also used Google Street View images to gauge neighborhood conditions within a half-mile radius of each child’s home. The virtual survey yielded data about housing conditions, parks, the presence of graffiti and more.

The authors found that in economically mixed settings, low-income boys engaged in more antisocial behavior, including delinquent behavior such as lying, cheating and swearing, and aggressive behavior such as fighting.

The effect seems limited to boys, however. For low-income girls, growing up among more affluent neighbors had no discernible effect on behavior. Previous research in the U.S. has also suggested that neighborhood surroundings play a smaller role in girls’ development than in boys’, perhaps because many parents monitor their daughters more closely and keep them closer to home.

Among the low-income boys, those living in neighborhoods classified as “hard-pressed,” where 75 percent or more of the local area was poor, had the lowest rates of antisocial behavior. Poor boys’ behavior was worse in middle-income neighborhoods, and worse still in the wealthiest neighborhoods studied, said Odgers, a psychologist who is an associate professor at Duke’s Sanford School of Public Policy. She said the findings held true from ages 5 through 12.

Something called the “relative position hypothesis” may help explain the findings, Odgers said. Previous studies have suggested that children often evaluate their social rank and self-worth based on comparisons with those around them. Simply put, being poor may be more distressing to a child when he is surrounded by others who are better off.

Many policymakers in England and the U.S. have viewed mixed-income neighborhoods as a potential remedy for poverty’s toxic effects, which include increased risks of crime and delinquency. But the new research sounds a cautionary note about a policy direction that many have viewed with hope.

Mixed-income neighborhoods are relatively uncommon in the U.S. but are an emerging policy direction. In Britain, by contrast, mixed neighborhoods enjoy broad support and represent a long-standing policy priority, reflecting a belief that they are socially just and will help struggling families. However, very little research to date has tested that belief. Mixed-income neighborhoods may address some social ills, Odgers said. But the new research suggests mixed-income housing may not be a panacea.

“We are not saying that economically mixed communities are universally harmful,” Odgers said. “However, additional care may need to be taken to ensure these communities achieve their intended outcomes for children.”

While the study focused on low-income children, the authors also gathered data on working class, middle class and more affluent children, and found that they fared worse when they grew up alongside poverty. As the amount of poverty in their neighborhoods rose, their levels of antisocial behavior rose.

The research draws upon data from the Environmental Risk Longitudinal Twin Study, which tracks the development of a group of 2,232 British children born in 1994 and 1995. Odgers’ colleagues on the E-Risk study include Terrie Moffitt and Avshalom Caspi, also of Duke University.

In future studies, the authors plan to examine mixed-income neighborhoods’ effects in other spheres, such as educational achievement.

“These findings are troubling given the growing divide between rich and poor,” Odgers said. “They suggest that additional supports may be needed for low-income children who are growing up in the shadow of wealth.“

The E-Risk Study is funded by the Medical Research Council. Additional support was provided by ESRC grant RES-177-25-0013, NICHD grant HD061298 and by funds from the Jacobs Foundation, the British Academy and the Nuffield Foundation. Further support was provided by the William T. Grant Foundation, the U.S. National Science Foundation and by Google.


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numerous studies show parenting is much more crucial
Jan 25th 2015
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Has anyone here observed what this study is saying first-hand?
Jan 25th 2015
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Yes.. but I don't agree with this 100%..
Jan 26th 2015
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seems to be not many such neighborhoods in the us.
Jan 25th 2015
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i can relate
Jan 25th 2015
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Reuben
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1. "numerous studies show parenting is much more crucial"
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To boys than girls anyway

(Always makes me laugh when people say boys are easier to raise than girls)

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Meadow
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2. "Has anyone here observed what this study is saying first-hand?"
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Any guys here personally experience this?

  

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legsdiamond
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5. "Yes.. but I don't agree with this 100%.. "
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it's real easy to feel inferior when you see white kids living in mansions and shrugging it off like it's nothing.

However, my town also had a rich Black history so there was balance. We are home to the largest Tuskegee Airmen Memorial because most of them came from Western PA. http://www.post-gazette.com/local/north/2013/09/16/Largest-outdoor-monument-to-Tuskegee-Airmen-unveiled-in-Sewickley/stories/201309160139

One thing that was frustrating is kids from Homewood or Braddock with 2 parent households coming down trying to clown us for being "rich" when they were doing much better than we were.

I saw the difference on how it affected kids without a strong parent in the household. Our school would toss a kid in a remedial class in a heartbeat.. they tried to do it with me at an early age but my mom came down and turned that place out. She was from the hood (Aliquippa) and my dad was from the nice town (Sewickley). My Dad's fam was poor tho (after the Steel Mills closed) and my grandmother was a maid.

Shit like this made me angry... my grandmother probably worked for one of my friends grandparents.


  

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3. "seems to be not many such neighborhoods in the us. "
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But another study pointed out problems of black kids when their parents move into wealthier neighborhoods


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BigJazz
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i lived in the projects and i felt comfortable cuz everybody around me was in the same boat.

but being the smarty-art young nigga that i was, i went to school and took honors classes with an entirely different demographic. these were kids that grew up privileged and it was obvious from the very beginning that their experience was drastically different from mine.

and for a while, i hated that.

and then i started hating them.

but i got older and i developed an understanding of my different environments and my place in them.

that gave me perspective.

and the differences stopped being a problem...

  

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