11. "I think regionalism is actually making a resurgence" In response to Reply # 0
People are realizing they don't need to go national/get a major deal to make money. So they're not forced to impersonate what's "hot". New York still seems to be trying to impersonate the south, but I think the music coming out of, for example, ATL, Houston, N.O each have their own very unique sound
12. "Gotta see both sides (c) Desus" In response to Reply # 0
On one hand it is weird to hear NYC artists sounding like they are from the south. There are regional sounds that I miss due to nostalgia. That regional sound hasn't gone anywhere but isn't on the radio as much as the past. Another question would be, is regionalism dead or are mainstream fans flocking to people from other regions because radio doesn't play that regional sound?
However, the absence of regional sounds is the natural progression of hip-hop thanks in part to the internet. This was going to happen anyway at some point but it's still weird to see it. At some point those classic albums are looked at as ancient as the new era carves out their own niche. It's hip-hop so go make something new. If ASAP Rocky sounded like Cam'Ron, someone could make the argument he was biting Cam and needs to find his own identity.
-DJ R-Tistic- Member since Nov 06th 2008 51986 posts
Wed Jan-21-15 05:52 AM
15. "it's not dead in the club. Not at all. " In response to Reply # 0
I DJ'd in DC, NY, Philly, Tampa, Tally, and of course L.A. last year....and each city still has their local flavors that make it different.
I would say that the L.A. Mustard sound and then the 60 BPM ATL Trap sound are most dominant, but you can hit a L.A hood spot and only hear 5-6 Trap sounding ATL songs. And then go to an ATL club and not hear a SINGLE L.A. or East Coast track aside of a Shmurda Hot nigga.
Now, I def agree that artists are making music that sounds identical to other regions. Coco dude is from L.A...while Fight night and plenty ATL songs sounded West Coast. But it's still differences for sure. And even NY has a lotta regional songs that only get play there...All about the money got a small amount of play everywhere else, but not much. Fabulous new songs are all more local to NY than being nationwide hits. "Run Ricky Run" surely sounds Down South, but hasn't blown up anywhere outside NY yet.
Even with all the nationwide love L.A gets now, nobody outside here is really playing Run me my money, BPT, Pull up, Where yo money at, or even Bay songs like Panoramic or Only that real.
-DJ R-Tistic- Member since Nov 06th 2008 51986 posts
Wed Jan-21-15 07:27 AM
18. "Yup, you would think it's different now. I understood in 2007" In response to Reply # 17
when L.A. had ZERO club hits, barely any that even got play in L.A. But ATL, especially the non mainstream clubs like Compound? Man they don't play SHIT BUT ATL! You don't even hear any Texas or Memphis music, and only limited Florida and Louisiana!
21. "this is larger black culture. (prolly white, too, but idgafat). " In response to Reply # 0
i remember walt wolfram (linguist at ncsu and head of the linguistics assoc for the US, whatever the name is) wrote a book a few years ago on aave / ebonics and basing his studies in eastern shore, nc.
and what he found was that regional identifiers in aave were vanishing.
i THINK he pointed out a cause, but if not, it was my .02, but culture, in general, is more nationalized due to the proliferation and pervasiveness of media.
so when you have BET (and all the other channels, and now, youtube and all the other sites and social media), there is a nationalization of culture.
young kids in the chi identifying more with youngins from ATL or from NY more than the old heads from the chi. and vice versa.
and then you got the corporate entities holding up what's representative (and southern rap crushed the buildings and flipped the decades long script of southern and western and midwestern rappers tryna sound new yorkish)... the homogenization of rap as a marker for homogenization of culture is unsurprising.
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