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RobOne4
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"boy lied about going to heaven, publisher pulling book"


  

          

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http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2015/01/15/377589757/boy-says-he-didn-t-go-to-heaven-publisher-says-it-will-pull-book

Nearly five years after it hit bestseller lists, a book that purported to be a six-year-old boy's story of visiting angels and heaven after suffering a bad car crash is being pulled from shelves. The young man at the center of The Boy Who Came Back from Heaven, Alex Malarkey, said this week that the story was all made up.

The book's publisher, Tyndale House, had promoted it as "a supernatural encounter that will give you new insights on Heaven, angels, and hearing the voice of God."

But Thursday, Tyndale House confirmed to NPR that it is taking "the book and all ancillary products out of print."

The decision to pull the book comes after Alex Malarkey wrote an open letter to retailer LifeWay and others who sell Christian books and religious materials. It was published this week on the Pulpit and Pen website.

"I did not die. I did not go to Heaven," Alex wrote. He continued, "I said I went to heaven because I thought it would get me attention. When I made the claims that I did, I had never read the Bible. People have profited from lies, and continue to. They should read the Bible, which is enough. The Bible is the only source of truth. Anything written by man cannot be infallible."

He concluded, "Those who market these materials must be called to repent and hold the Bible as enough."

Here are a few key background details of the story: Alex Malarkey was paralyzed at the age of 6 when he was in a car wreck. He then spent two months in a coma. He's now a teenager. The book lists him as a co-author along with his father, Kevin Malarkey.

Calling the book a "spiritual memoir," The Washington Post notes that it "became part of a popular genre of 'heavenly tourism,' which has been controversial among orthodox Christians."

Alex's parents are now divorced; he and his siblings live with his mother, Beth Malarkey, who has previously spoken out against the book (and last year, a movie) featuring her son. She has also said that profits from the book haven't been going to Alex.

Last spring, Beth Malarkey wrote a blog post stating, "Alex's name and identity are being used against his wishes (I have spoken before and posted about it that Alex has tried to publicly speak out against the book), on something that he is opposed to and knows to be in error according to the Bible."

She added, "I am fully aware of what it feels like to be pulled in. There are many who are scamming and using the Word of God to do it. They are good, especially if you are not digging into your Bible and truly studying it. They study their audience and even read 'success' books to try to build better and bigger ... 'ministries/businesses.' "

Thanks to NPR editor Susan Vavrick for flagging this story.

November 8th, 2005 The greatest night in the history of GD!

  

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lol @ saying Anything written by man cannot be infallible
Jan 16th 2015
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RE: lol @ saying Anything written by man cannot be infallible
Jan 16th 2015
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I literally heard a record scratch when I read that line.
Jan 16th 2015
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so, it was all just a bunch of uh *ahem*.... malarkey?
Jan 16th 2015
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RE: so, it was all just a bunch of uh *ahem*.... malarkey?
Jan 25th 2015
105
He was LYING about HEAVEN?
Jan 16th 2015
4
Is Buzz Aldrin lying about the light that followed their ship?
Jan 16th 2015
34
      RE: Is Buzz Aldrin lying about the light that followed their ship?
Jan 16th 2015
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      Obviously it says more than that, but it's not up to us
Jan 16th 2015
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      Why invoke Buzz seeing the light and then...
Jan 16th 2015
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this has to be satire
Jan 16th 2015
5
with a last name of malarkey, what did people expect.
Jan 16th 2015
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the jokes write themselves lol.
Jan 16th 2015
13
that is exactly where my eyes stopped looking at words. LOL.
Jan 16th 2015
72
people believed a 6 year old went to heaven and came back?
Jan 16th 2015
7
Ppl believe in heaven?!
Jan 16th 2015
8
yup...
Jan 16th 2015
50
they also worship a zombie god.
Jan 16th 2015
9
I find this talk disrespectful and would like you to stop.
Jan 16th 2015
15
*Cocks AK*
Jan 16th 2015
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Sorry Bro, but AK's don't Cock. SMH
Jan 16th 2015
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      There goes his battleship
Jan 16th 2015
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      actually the bolt is gas powered lol
Jan 16th 2015
26
      Err maybe the submarine then? With the three pegs?
Jan 16th 2015
27
      Pardon me homes, but true in part only
Jan 16th 2015
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           Thank you.
Jan 17th 2015
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      Genuinely glad I don't know this.
Jan 16th 2015
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i won't b/c i have the right to say what i want.
Jan 16th 2015
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So why are you demeaning this man's faith?
Jan 16th 2015
30
i wasn't even talking to him, homie.
Jan 16th 2015
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      But he was offended. That's how it works around here.
Jan 16th 2015
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           thanks, rev.
Jan 16th 2015
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Lot's of exceptions, caveats and conditions. LOL.
Jan 16th 2015
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      b/c that's not the truth.
Jan 16th 2015
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oh jesus. are we gonna do this for next month?
Jan 16th 2015
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God of the living not the dead
Jan 16th 2015
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It's not even the first book written from this perspective.
Jan 16th 2015
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we was pose to believe that dude was in heaven flying with angles for 2 ...
Jan 16th 2015
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people are so obtuse
Jan 16th 2015
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      That was kinda acute.
Jan 16th 2015
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           You are right.
Jan 17th 2015
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can't wait until adults stop believing in fairytales
Jan 16th 2015
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Jan 16th 2015
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Neil DeGrasse Tyson will save us all with science
Jan 16th 2015
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      fam, part of the fairy tale is the idea of being "saved"
Jan 16th 2015
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           Fair enough, but isn't part of this discussion about that 'what' ?
Jan 16th 2015
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           saved from other dumb ass adults
Jan 16th 2015
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                That too
Jan 16th 2015
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Pretty awful article to have to write.
Jan 16th 2015
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This article is not about the book, it's really about the Boy and
Jan 16th 2015
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so you're saying the boy lied... but the contents of the book are true?
Jan 16th 2015
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How you arrived at that question, only you know.
Jan 16th 2015
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      "It has nothing to do with heaven or the content of his lie."
Jan 16th 2015
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           Wow. Eyes, but can't see. Ears, but can't hear.
Jan 16th 2015
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                we're talking about the boy's book right?
Jan 16th 2015
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                     Man. You're just trying too hard. Stop.
Jan 16th 2015
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                          I keep asking direct questions to understand, but you won't answer
Jan 16th 2015
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                               Well Old Chap, it's not my problem if you can't keep up.
Jan 16th 2015
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                                    Still confused - Did the boy go to heaven? Yes or no answer please.
Jan 16th 2015
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                                         Can you read? Yes or No?
Jan 16th 2015
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I think what's interesting is why adults would believe a lie
Jan 16th 2015
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      Maybe you could ask Jesus for yourself.
Jan 16th 2015
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      I did, he told me you weren't on his team
Jan 16th 2015
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           So you agree that Jesus is real?
Jan 16th 2015
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                you're fake, Jesus is my homeboy.
Jan 16th 2015
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                     I bet you'd never say that to a man's face.
Jan 17th 2015
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                          all threats and YOU WOULDN'T
Jan 20th 2015
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                               You ignorance of the word knows no bound.
Jan 21st 2015
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                                    LOL. you make threats on the internet.
Jan 21st 2015
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                                         the hypocrisy is astounding
Jan 24th 2015
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                                         I haven't threatened you in this post.
Jan 24th 2015
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                                              did I say you did?
Jan 25th 2015
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      He did-- at least twice
Jan 16th 2015
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      and yet they don't listen!
Jan 16th 2015
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      people read that book and believed it.
Jan 17th 2015
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           People read Mein Kampf and believed it
Jan 21st 2015
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                Good point, well made.
Jan 24th 2015
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The bible makes it pretty clear death is a dirt nap
Jan 16th 2015
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lol @ his name being "Malarkey"
Jan 16th 2015
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Talk about Old English name definitions..LOL
Jan 16th 2015
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i'm like......helloooo...malarkey....is it not obvious lol???
Jan 16th 2015
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Hahahahah
Jan 16th 2015
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I can't get past "The Bible is the only source of truth," followed by
Jan 16th 2015
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right? but to be fair,
Jan 16th 2015
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i read it over and over, worried i was reading a typo
Jan 16th 2015
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these posts always remind me of "dogpile on the rabbit!"
Jan 16th 2015
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DOGPILE ON THE RABBIT! DOGPILE ON THE RABBIT!
Jan 25th 2015
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they should continue to sell it just like james frey's million little pi...
Jan 16th 2015
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yeah.
Jan 16th 2015
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Well shit, plenty of us could have told you that a long time ago.
Jan 16th 2015
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Yep.
Jan 24th 2015
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the people who believed it should have their company pulled
Jan 16th 2015
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The book was based on what he said about going to heaven
Jan 16th 2015
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or his mom forced him to say it due to not getting paid.
Jan 16th 2015
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or, after reading the bible, he is repenting for the sin of lying
Jan 16th 2015
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so he made up a fairy tale
Jan 17th 2015
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RE: boy lied about going to heaven, publisher pulling book
Jan 17th 2015
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this is why religion is jacked up
Jan 17th 2015
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Another failure by church leaders to call this out earlier
Jan 18th 2015
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Whelp I see that the Devil's son has arrived, this post is not complete.
Jan 21st 2015
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why would a church leader call somebody names in any instance?
Jan 24th 2015
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      Jesus did the same when describing bad behavior.
Jan 24th 2015
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           yes but Jesus was omniscient, you are not.
Jan 24th 2015
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                LOL...
Jan 24th 2015
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                let the dear boy cook
Jan 24th 2015
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                     true, anyone can see this for what it is
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1. "lol @ saying Anything written by man cannot be infallible"
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& then saying believe in the bible as the only truth

uh HELLO, kid...who wrote the bible? aliens? whales? cmon


does it really matter?

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3. "RE: lol @ saying Anything written by man cannot be infallible"
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>& then saying believe in the bible as the only truth
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>uh HELLO, kid...who wrote the bible? aliens? whales? cmon
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Yup basically.. A lot of people don't grasp that men wrote the bible.

I've got friends who see conspiracy and scepticism everywhere, doubting media outlets, 9/11, moon landings, JFK etc. But if you suggest the bible may have been subject to the same sort of manipulation.. Nah they don't wanna hear or consider that.

  

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76. "I literally heard a record scratch when I read that line. "
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2. "so, it was all just a bunch of uh *ahem*.... malarkey?"
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*Muttley laugh*

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105. "RE: so, it was all just a bunch of uh *ahem*.... malarkey?"
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LOL

  

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4. "He was LYING about HEAVEN?"
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Next you'll be suggesting my friend at primary school was lying when he said he'd been to The Moon during the summer holidays.

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34. "Is Buzz Aldrin lying about the light that followed their ship?"
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Which he states on camera?

What about Neil Armstrong's cryptic comments on the 25th anniversary of the lunar landing? Folks can't seem to understand that when boiled down all the bible is saying is that there is something "up there" that has come "down here".

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74. "RE: Is Buzz Aldrin lying about the light that followed their ship?"
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if all the bible says was something was up there and it came down there then it would have said that. One fucking page one fucking sentence. Not endless fairytales and stories.

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78. "Obviously it says more than that, but it's not up to us "
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to decide how the events or the encounters it describes unfold or resonate through the human experience. All we have to do is question it and ourselves. That can be said for just about all belief systems I guess.

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80. "Why invoke Buzz seeing the light and then..."
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...completely abandon his testimony that it was a UFO, but most likely part of their kit reflecting the Sun? You just decided to transplant a bit of ancient superstition into a really rather rational sounding story. Talk about desire to believe in fairy stories overtaking critical thought...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/10959526/Buzz-Aldrin-saw-UFO-during-1969-Apollo-11-flight.html

“There were many explanations of what that could be, other than another spacecraft from another country or another world – it was either the rocket we had separated from, or the four panels that moved away when we extracted the lander from the rocket and we were nose to nose with the two spacecraft.

“So in the close vicinity, moving away, were four panels. And I feel absolutely convinced that we were looking at the sun reflected off of one of these panels.

“Which one? I don't know. So technically, the definition could be ‘unidentified’,’’ he said.

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5. "this has to be satire"
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6. "with a last name of malarkey, what did people expect."
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now go runtelldat, ho.

  

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13. "the jokes write themselves lol."
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72. "that is exactly where my eyes stopped looking at words. LOL."
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7. "people believed a 6 year old went to heaven and came back? "
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8. "Ppl believe in heaven?!"
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50. "yup... "
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9. "they also worship a zombie god."
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fuck you.

  

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15. "I find this talk disrespectful and would like you to stop. "
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16. "*Cocks AK*"
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>"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then
>they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
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>http://blackpeopleonlocalnews.tumblr.com/

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20. "Sorry Bro, but AK's don't Cock. SMH"
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You have to pull the bold back. SMH


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24. "There goes his battleship"
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26. "actually the bolt is gas powered lol"
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One does have to pull back, or cock, the charging handle.

You are mistaken.

  

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27. "Err maybe the submarine then? With the three pegs?"
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I'm still in your corner Case!

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29. "Pardon me homes, but true in part only"
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You only pull back a charging handle. You never Cock one. And the when you pull back the charging handle it slides the bolt back. Hence you are mistaken.


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84. "Thank you."
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38. "Genuinely glad I don't know this."
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I hope to never see an assault rifle in the metal tbh.

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18. "i won't b/c i have the right to say what i want."
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Fri Jan-16-15 10:33 AM by SoWhat

  

          

i'd act differently if Xtians were a persecuted minority in our society and especially if my ppl were involved in your ppl's persecution. b/c i believe in punching UP and not punching down (http://thoughtcatalog.com/liz-labacz/2014/07/punching-up-and-the-rules-of-comedy/). but that is very much not the case and so i'm comfortable w/what i've said. i punched up, not down so it's fine, IMO.

if you're bothered i suggest you pray on it.

if you feel the need to act violently against me of course you're in the wrong however i've said something somewhat provocative and downright insulting to your faith so i understand your violent reaction though it is not tolerable in our society. still, i understand that risk and given this circumstance i'm willing to accept it.

fuck you.

  

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30. "So why are you demeaning this man's faith? "
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Has he ever done anything to you?

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31. "i wasn't even talking to him, homie."
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Fri Jan-16-15 10:57 AM by SoWhat

  

          

it wasn't about him. it was about the zombie god, Jesus, that ppl who believe in heaven and who believed this boy's story worship.

try to keep up.

but if you wanna know why i referred to Jesus as a 'zombie god' - i did it for the lulz.

fuck you.

  

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33. "But he was offended. That's how it works around here. "
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Don't get brand new.

>it wasn't about him. it was about the zombie god, Jesus,
>that ppl who believe in heaven and who believed this boy's
>story worship.
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>try to keep up.

Try to keep off your knees, because we know that you ain't praying.



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37. "thanks, rev."
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fuck you.

  

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61. "Lot's of exceptions, caveats and conditions. LOL."
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Wouldn't it be easier to just say "when I do it, it's okay, when others do it in ways I don't like, it's not cool"?

Not trying to spark, I saw the opening and went for it.

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63. "b/c that's not the truth."
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i wrote the truth.

fuck you.

  

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21. "oh jesus. are we gonna do this for next month?"
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Where people who had particular disagreements re: CH now trip over themselves to catch ppl in logic traps?

This is not like that.

  

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51. "God of the living not the dead"
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Or so they say. Ah well better to be angry at God than to be ambivalent IMO.

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66. "It's not even the first book written from this perspective."
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Word to the Burpos. "Heaven is For Real" ("written" by a four year old and his father) was a huge hit on the Christian inspirational book circuit and turned into a pretty successful movie.

Shoot, "Heaven Tourism" is pretty popular and money-making genre pf religious books in general. Wouldn't be surprised if the parents manipulated this poor kid in order to make some money off of his tragedy.

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10. "we was pose to believe that dude was in heaven flying with angles for 2 ..."
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months and came back to earth and couldnt' walk and he was okay with that??

I be salty after i got to come back to work after a weekend vacation.

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12. "people are so obtuse"
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November 8th, 2005 The greatest night in the history of GD!

  

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75. "That was kinda acute. "
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81. "You are right."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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11. "can't wait until adults stop believing in fairytales"
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think how much we could accomplish

  

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22. "^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^"
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS

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53. "Neil DeGrasse Tyson will save us all with science"
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"He saved my soul-- with SCIENCE!!"

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64. "fam, part of the fairy tale is the idea of being "saved""
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saved from what. yes, some of us, don't believe their is anything to be saved from...

  

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71. "Fair enough, but isn't part of this discussion about that 'what' ?"
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i.e. the state of oblivion that we call death.

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77. "saved from other dumb ass adults"
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79. "That too"
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14. "Pretty awful article to have to write."
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"Alex's parents are now divorced; he and his siblings live with his mother, Beth Malarkey, who has previously spoken out against the book (and last year, a movie) featuring her son. She has also said that profits from the book haven't been going to Alex."

He lives with the parent who never supported what he said and is now repeating what she says using a very adult tone. He's in a very vulnerable position, moreso than most because of his paralysis. I would not be so quick to jump on this story either. I don't know what happened to him, nor does it affect me in anyway, but it does sound like he has been subject to a lot of pressures in his home for a very long time. This doesn't sound like the truth either, it sounds like he fumbled a prepared statement given to him. I feel for the kid and hope he'll get some peace eventually.

I don't know what happened to him but having one's mother intimate that they're a liar for the majority of their life can't be the best thing for one's growth and development. Adults can be pretty awful that way.



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17. "This article is not about the book, it's really about the Boy and "
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why he lied. It has nothing to do with heaven or the content of his lie. But I'm sure that people will choose to look past the deeper meaning that caused this kid to make up a story.

Carry on.

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28. "so you're saying the boy lied... but the contents of the book are true?"
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32. "How you arrived at that question, only you know."
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But for the sake of helping you, I'll respond. I haven't addressed the content of the book, so your question is not valid. My focus is on the "Why". Why did the boy (a kid, a child) lie about this situation. There is a deeper reason that caused him to lie and the content of the book has no bearing on that reason.


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39. ""It has nothing to do with heaven or the content of his lie.""
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if the boy lied about going to heaven, and the contents of the book detail his experiences in heaven, the his lie negates all of that no?

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41. "Wow. Eyes, but can't see. Ears, but can't hear. "
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>if the boy lied about going to heaven, and the contents of
>the book detail his experiences in heaven, the his lie negates
>all of that no?


Again, the book has nothing to do with the reason for his lie. But if you want to parlay and politic about the symptom then that your choice. I choose to address the cause, so that the disease can be cured.

And you have a nerve to challenge my intellect on the regular. SMH



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44. "we're talking about the boy's book right?"
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or are you talking about the bible? cause i'm not. i'm talking about the book the boy (via his father) wrote which the boy is now saying is a lie.

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47. "Man. You're just trying too hard. Stop."
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If you're having a hard time understanding then just raise your hand and say so.

>or are you talking about the bible? cause i'm not. i'm
>talking about the book the boy (via his father) wrote which
>the boy is now saying is a lie.

AND Did you read the part where he said he lied to get attention? Or are you just whistling between the gaps in your conversation.


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49. "I keep asking direct questions to understand, but you won't answer"
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The boy lied to get attention. So you're focusing on why he lied - to get attention. And so does the fact that it was to get attention somehow negates the fact that he lied? ARe you implying somehow the scope of the lie doesn't extend to the detailed events of his experiences in heaven?

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54. "Well Old Chap, it's not my problem if you can't keep up."
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>The boy lied to get attention. So you're focusing on why he
>lied - to get attention. And so does the fact that it was to
>get attention somehow negates the fact that he lied? ARe you
>implying somehow the scope of the lie doesn't extend to the
>detailed events of his experiences in heaven?



So let me SLOW IT DOWN for you. The Lie precipitated the book. The book is only a visual manifestation of the Lie, which was caused by the need to seek attention. And the attention was needed because there is a deep issue that the child has with his life and family.

Thus, I chose to make a statement about the root that caused the Lie, hence I don't care about the book, because it really doesn't matter when it comes to the deeper need of the child.

Now, if you have a hard time understanding what I just said, then you need to log off.




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55. "Still confused - Did the boy go to heaven? Yes or no answer please."
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59. "Can you read? Yes or No?"
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57. "I think what's interesting is why adults would believe a lie"
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why didn't jesus tell them it wasn't true?

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60. "Maybe you could ask Jesus for yourself. "
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62. "I did, he told me you weren't on his team"
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68. "So you agree that Jesus is real?"
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70. "you're fake, Jesus is my homeboy."
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83. "I bet you'd never say that to a man's face. "
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You talk a lot of crap over this internet, but well know that you're pure sweetness. So I'm gonna let you cook slow like a lil kid.

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89. "all threats and YOU WOULDN'T"
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I mean, either you'd turn the other cheek, or your fake ass would try to do something.

it's really not a problem to me either way, but it is about you being a fake bully.

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91. "You ignorance of the word knows no bound."
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>I mean, either you'd turn the other cheek, or your fake ass
>would try to do something.
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Turning the other cheek has nothing to do with passivity or letting someone insult or beat you. But you wouldn't know that.

>it's really not a problem to me either way, but it is about
>you being a fake bully.
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You are the epitome of bing a Fake Bully. You talk a bunch of crap because you're able to hide behind the distance of the internet.


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93. "LOL. you make threats on the internet."
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you are the lowest kind of person

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96. "the hypocrisy is astounding"
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As is the assertion that people keeping civility in social situations distinct from the tone of internet discussions is somehow a victory for him (again as if he's any different).

That's the route of a bully though.

Just IMO though.

  

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98. "I haven't threatened you in this post."
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But I do know that you'd never utter the kind of things that you say on this Site to people's face, because you know that there'd be consequences.

But like a bully and the Devil and his offspring you're just all talk.



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106. "did I say you did?"
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you've threatened me, and others, repeatedly.

that's the fact.

so tell me again how you're not a shitty human being.

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67. "He did-- at least twice"
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And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven

Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Do your googles if you want the verse numbers and such

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69. "and yet they don't listen!"
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82. "people read that book and believed it."
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it's pretty funny.

  

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90. "People read Mein Kampf and believed it"
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They watched Birth of a Nation and believed it

They read the Willie Lynch Letter and believed that too

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94. "Good point, well made."
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People who believe fairy tales like the Bible are basically nazis.

  

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19. "The bible makes it pretty clear death is a dirt nap"
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Until the resurrection. Now does the time from death to resurrection pass in an instant for the deceased? I'd argue yes, but you won't be coming back to tell the tale.

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23. "lol @ his name being "Malarkey""
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lol @ the book being pulled because "the story was all made up"

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36. "Talk about Old English name definitions..LOL "
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45. "i'm like......helloooo...malarkey....is it not obvious lol???"
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initiationofplato
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46. "Hahahahah"
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~Experience is the currency of the soul.

  

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25. "I can't get past "The Bible is the only source of truth," followed by"
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"Anything written by man cannot be infallible."

LOL

  

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35. "right? but to be fair, "
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the boy or whomever wrote that statement likely believes the Bible was written by God where ppl took dictation.

and yes, i too lol'd @ that part. b/c, you know. LOL

fuck you.

  

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65. "i read it over and over, worried i was reading a typo"
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or suffering from dyslexia

  

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40. "these posts always remind me of "dogpile on the rabbit!""
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...anyway, i don't know why people believe any of these books about the afterlife or really would want to read them....but i'm different...

"yes, sometimes my rhymes are sexist, but you lovely bitches and hos should know i'm tryin to correct it"- hiphopopotamus

  

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103. "DOGPILE ON THE RABBIT! DOGPILE ON THE RABBIT!"
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http://www.ulozto.net/live/xGZX7MW/bugs-bunny-a-hare-grows-in-manhatten-1947-avi

  

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42. "they should continue to sell it just like james frey's million little pi..."
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still sold. some of that was a lie and he's still making money off of it.

now go runtelldat, ho.

  

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43. "yeah."
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the boy's story could still be powerful even if it's not based in 'truth'.

i'll cast aside the obvious.

fuck you.

  

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48. "Well shit, plenty of us could have told you that a long time ago."
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95. "Yep. "
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But the usual suspects need something to fall for.

Just IMO though.

  

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52. "the people who believed it should have their company pulled"
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56. "The book was based on what he said about going to heaven"
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He read the bible and realized that he did not go to heaven because no one other than Jesus himself has entered the heavenly realm and returned to earth.

And when jesus returned he did not return with a physical body.

The scriptures are clear about heaven and earth.





Some of yall are too lazy to read the bible on your own....

you would rather have someone feed you the word with a spoon that has a hole in it...

  

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58. "or his mom forced him to say it due to not getting paid. "
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73. "or, after reading the bible, he is repenting for the sin of lying"
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*Jews you*

"this is okp tho, reading is completely optional" (c) desus

Proceed with caution. I am overtly racist.

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85. "so he made up a fairy tale"
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based on a fairy tale
cute.

  

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86. "RE: boy lied about going to heaven, publisher pulling book"
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All this "heaven tourism" talk reminds me of the movie martyr

  

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87. "this is why religion is jacked up"
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dude said he lied, and then still is advocating another lie (smh)

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88. "Another failure by church leaders to call this out earlier"
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Can even see the fence riding in this post. Folks who claim they can see the devil in others couldn't see this for what it was until too late.

This is what makes so many Christians vulnerable to false prophets and it seems folk of this kind wouldn't have it any other way.

Just IMO though.

  

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92. "Whelp I see that the Devil's son has arrived, this post is not complete."
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97. "why would a church leader call somebody names in any instance?"
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like really, calling somebody the devils son is really something you give yourself a pass to do, in front of your own god?

  

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99. "Jesus did the same when describing bad behavior."
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I mean y'all should really read the Bible.


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100. "yes but Jesus was omniscient, you are not."
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He knew the character of those he called fools and hypocrites, you know that man not.

I stay away from the dogpiles, but it's beyond bogus to call someone in your faith, a fellow child of God, a title like that.

  

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101. "LOL... "
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>He knew the character of those he called fools and
>hypocrites, you know that man not.
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In this case I do and I make no apologies about out. Just like to can know the heart of a person by the good or bad that they do, whelp, so can I.


>I stay away from the dogpiles, but it's beyond bogus to call
>someone in your faith, a fellow child of God, a title like
>that.


If I call someone a Devil, they are just that and we don't share the same Christian faith.



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102. "let the dear boy cook"
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>He knew the character of those he called fools and
>hypocrites, you know that man not.
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>I stay away from the dogpiles, but it's beyond bogus to call
>someone in your faith, a fellow child of God, a title like
>that.

It's important to give a person the opportunity to respond with an intelligent idea, or reveal they have none by engaging in unsubstantiated name calling. For some it's better to stump for serial adulterer Bill Cosby and Under Armour pxt bandit Eddie Long. When money and power drive priorties more greatly than love and spirit let them speak and reveal themselves so that they can be dealt with.

Just IMO though.

  

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104. "true, anyone can see this for what it is"
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and the simple fact that most so called 'hard core atheist' can converse with you on a real level proves that this dude is just caught up in his own fraudulent narcissism and false relationship with his god...he thinks no one can see his bullshit yet he feels that no one cosigns his superficial words.


i for one am glad to speak to a person of faith like ted gee that can actual understand and engage a faithless person like myself rather than a transparent coward that wants proof for one thing and no proof for another


then again i aint sayin nothin that no one knows, i just feel sorry for his son, like no snark, REALLY feel for a kid that has a father who is scared of his own 'truth'

glad the black atheist movement seems to be catching serious steam

  

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