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Atillah Moor
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"Cocaine Cowboys 1 and 2 are on Netflix"


  

          

Part One focuses on the Miami trade and PArt Two focuses on LA. Both were good watches, but Part One seemed to present a better picture of the overall trade. They almost touched on Iran Contra and the CIA in Part One and made absolutely no mention of "Freeway" Ricky Ross in Part Two which I found odd/interesting.

Also Part One kind of shed some light on perhaps why Florida has such infamous laws such as "Stand your ground". Seems like they are left overs from when things got pretty serious for the locals down there.

Anyway check em' out if you're so inclined.

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1 is great. 2 is an abomination.
Jan 15th 2015
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^^ This. Part 2 was forced .
Jan 15th 2015
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Two is definitwly not as strong as One
Jan 15th 2015
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Yep.
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I'm in this line.
Jan 15th 2015
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Charles Cosby wasn't compelling. his described relationship with Blanco
Jan 16th 2015
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They been on there. Charles Cosby. Real Nigga.
Jan 15th 2015
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That real nigga shit bothered me though
Jan 15th 2015
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      yeah i didn't feel that. I do admire his determination though
Jan 15th 2015
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Number one is my favorite doc of all times.
Jan 15th 2015
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"you have to understand..."
Jan 15th 2015
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You have to watch 'Cocaine Cowboys 1' to really appreciate 'CC 2'
Jan 15th 2015
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yo they were going to kidnap Kennedy Jr!!
Jan 15th 2015
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RE: And they almost pulled it off, too!!!
Jan 15th 2015
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Sir, it's C-o-l-o-m-b-i-a
Jan 16th 2015
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No. 1 left me with a shocking disgust
Jan 15th 2015
10
A former coworker told me about when he tried to join the DEA.
Jan 15th 2015
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      yeah its pure insanity
Jan 15th 2015
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u got that right re: 25-30 years ago in FL
Jan 15th 2015
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2 felt too much like a docu-drama to me
Jan 15th 2015
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RE: Cocaine Cowboys 1 and 2 are on Netflix
Jan 15th 2015
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according to Wikipedia (I really need to start donating)
Jan 15th 2015
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There's a third one called Cocaine Cowboys: Reloaded
Jan 15th 2015
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To my knowledge, stand your ground didn't have shit to do with that
Jan 15th 2015
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This is the law that I thought was a factor
Jan 15th 2015
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I couldn't sit through 2 it was really bad
Jan 16th 2015
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bignick
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1. "1 is great. 2 is an abomination."
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2. "^^ This. Part 2 was forced ."
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Atillah Moor
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3. "Two is definitwly not as strong as One"
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but I thought it filled in some things left out of One. Also it made me curious about what (if anything) "Freeway" was doing around that time. The way the focus of Part Two tells it-- he was the biggest game in town. That wouldn't add up if Ricky was in business then.

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5. "Yep."
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2 was clearly a money grab after such a positive response to the original.

Honestly, I'm kinda surprised we're still talking about Cocaine Cowboys 7 years later...

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The Wordsmith
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19. "I'm in this line."
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Since 1976

  

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25. "Charles Cosby wasn't compelling. his described relationship with Blanco"
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seemed weird to me...


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4. "They been on there. Charles Cosby. Real Nigga. "
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@geahuwine

  

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Atillah Moor
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7. "That real nigga shit bothered me though "
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Thu Jan-15-15 11:52 AM by Atillah Moor

  

          

Dude referred to himself as such in the same breath as saying some sort of self destructive dribble about what a real nigga does/is. Shit made me think "if that's the definition of real nigga then that's the last thing I'd want to be". Now I gotta find that quote lol.

They just showed up in my queue like two weeks ago.

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11. "yeah i didn't feel that. I do admire his determination though"
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Like if he didn't have the shit on video, letters and Rafi vouching i would not have believed this shit.

Like CC1 had Roberts just laying it out there...u believed him because he was just like fuck it i'll tell it all. Mickey was the same. They taught me in that doc

CC2 I was like This dude aint know her then he had shit on camera and i was like wow. Who would have thought to do that shit in the 80s like that. He had a muthafuckin PLAN.

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6. "Number one is my favorite doc of all times. "
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it absolutely is that good to me

so good to a lot of people that they completely write off number two

number 2 is very good to me

tied up a lot of loose ends. Told a totally different story and opened me up to some shit i did not even imagine could go down.

I enjoy them both

i have them both on my comp, my usb, my external hd and on disc

lol i aint losing these docs at all.

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8. ""you have to understand...""
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"You're not gonna tell a Colombian how to do anything..."

Realest shit John Roberts ever spoke.

here for dis.

  

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vee-lover
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9. "You have to watch 'Cocaine Cowboys 1' to really appreciate 'CC 2'"
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Thu Jan-15-15 12:15 PM by vee-lover

  

          

I agree that the first documentary was more compelling but I also thought the 2nd one was solid, too.

Just the whole idea of how this guy Charles Cosby got involved w/the Griselda Blanco cartel in the first place. That ish took hella patience to keep writing her and she not responding back for like a year I think it was. The drug trade at that time was exploding because of the Griselda Blanco and other Columbian cartels...and right in the midst of this is this improbable blk dude from Oakland somehow mixed up in the middle of it all...

(That's a great a compelling story)

The whole Kennedy kidnapping plot that was accidentally foiled. He was right in the mix of all of that. That was kinda funny to me that he wasn't afraid and had no qualms w/getting involved w/this very dangerous underworld of drug trafficking but when it came to kidnapping a Kennedy he was like nah that's where I draw the line lol.

And

He was really the survivor out of that whole sordid world who kept his bread and didn't get killed or sent to prison.



>Part One focuses on the Miami trade and PArt Two focuses on
>LA. Both were good watches, but Part One seemed to present a
>better picture of the overall trade. They almost touched on
>Iran Contra and the CIA in Part One and made absolutely no
>mention of "Freeway" Ricky Ross in Part Two which I found
>odd/interesting.
>
>Also Part One kind of shed some light on perhaps why Florida
>has such infamous laws such as "Stand your ground". Seems like
>they are left overs from when things got pretty serious for
>the locals down there.
>
>Anyway check em' out if you're so inclined.

grassrootsphilosopher

  

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Atillah Moor
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15. "yo they were going to kidnap Kennedy Jr!!"
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Thu Jan-15-15 01:36 PM by Atillah Moor

  

          

when it got to that part I was like "woah! This chick was crayzeee"

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17. "RE: And they almost pulled it off, too!!!"
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>when it got to that part I was like "woah! This chick was
>crayzeee"

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24. "Sir, it's C-o-l-o-m-b-i-a"
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>I agree that the first documentary was more compelling but I
>also thought the 2nd one was solid, too.
>
>Just the whole idea of how this guy Charles Cosby got involved
>w/the Griselda Blanco cartel in the first place. That ish took
>hella patience to keep writing her and she not responding back
>for like a year I think it was. The drug trade at that time
>was exploding because of the Griselda Blanco and other
>Columbian cartels...and right in the midst of this is this
>improbable blk dude from Oakland somehow mixed up in the
>middle of it all...
>
>(That's a great a compelling story)
>
>The whole Kennedy kidnapping plot that was accidentally
>foiled. He was right in the mix of all of that. That was kinda
>funny to me that he wasn't afraid and had no qualms w/getting
>involved w/this very dangerous underworld of drug trafficking
>but when it came to kidnapping a Kennedy he was like nah
>that's where I draw the line lol.
>
>And
>
>He was really the survivor out of that whole sordid world who
>kept his bread and didn't get killed or sent to prison.
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>>Part One focuses on the Miami trade and PArt Two focuses on
>>LA. Both were good watches, but Part One seemed to present a
>>better picture of the overall trade. They almost touched on
>>Iran Contra and the CIA in Part One and made absolutely no
>>mention of "Freeway" Ricky Ross in Part Two which I found
>>odd/interesting.
>>
>>Also Part One kind of shed some light on perhaps why Florida
>>has such infamous laws such as "Stand your ground". Seems
>like
>>they are left overs from when things got pretty serious for
>>the locals down there.
>>
>>Anyway check em' out if you're so inclined.
>

here for dis.

  

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10. "No. 1 left me with a shocking disgust"
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at the length's people will go to for power, drugs, and money, so it was a great doc. no.2 was forced and weak.

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20. "A former coworker told me about when he tried to join the DEA."
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Said the folks interviewing him told him that you REALLY see the dark side of humanity working in that field. They told him stories (from their experiences) about things such as folks using children as shields during shootouts and what have you.


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23. "yeah its pure insanity"
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unfathomable even

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12. "u got that right re: 25-30 years ago in FL"
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13. "2 felt too much like a docu-drama to me"
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it was kinda outlandish

*spoiler*

definitely would have been ok if i never learned about a dude eating ol girls organs.

  

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14. "RE: Cocaine Cowboys 1 and 2 are on Netflix"
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>Part One focuses on the Miami trade and PArt Two focuses on
>LA. Both were good watches, but Part One seemed to present a
>better picture of the overall trade. They almost touched on
>Iran Contra and the CIA in Part One and made absolutely no
>mention of "Freeway" Ricky Ross in Part Two which I found
>odd/interesting.

I'll make sure to watch these this weekend.

Pardon my ignorance, but did Ricky Ross pump weight outside of California? My memories from Dark Alliances are foggy, but I don't remember that book referencing him branching out of Cali too tough, but I could be wrong because it's been a while since I read that book and theres a ton of names in there as well.

  

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16. "according to Wikipedia (I really need to start donating)"
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Ross has said he operated drug sales not only in Los Angeles but in places across the country including St. Louis, New Orleans, Texas, Kansas City, Oklahoma, Indiana, Cincinnati, North Carolina, South Carolina, Baltimore, Cleveland, and Seattle. He has said that his most lucrative sales came from the Ohio area.

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18. "There's a third one called Cocaine Cowboys: Reloaded"
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It came out last year. It's basically an extended version of the first one. They tell more stories and go into more graphic detail.

  

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21. "To my knowledge, stand your ground didn't have shit to do with that"
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This article explains much of its origins in Florida, and ALEC and the NRA have done most of the lifting elsewhere:

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/floridas-stand-your-ground-law-was-born-of-2004-case-but-story-has-been/1225164

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22. "This is the law that I thought was a factor"
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In 1987, however, Florida enacted a uniform concealed-carry law which mandates that county authorities issue a permit to anyone who satisfies certain objective criteria.
-2nd paragraph of "The Florida Experience"

Your article is more directly connected though.

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26. "I couldn't sit through 2 it was really bad "
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Might try to prep again
But it just was wack to me

  

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