Atillah Moor Member since Sep 05th 2013 13825 posts
Thu Jan-15-15 10:02 AM
"Cocaine Cowboys 1 and 2 are on Netflix"
Part One focuses on the Miami trade and PArt Two focuses on LA. Both were good watches, but Part One seemed to present a better picture of the overall trade. They almost touched on Iran Contra and the CIA in Part One and made absolutely no mention of "Freeway" Ricky Ross in Part Two which I found odd/interesting.
Also Part One kind of shed some light on perhaps why Florida has such infamous laws such as "Stand your ground". Seems like they are left overs from when things got pretty serious for the locals down there.
Anyway check em' out if you're so inclined.
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Atillah Moor Member since Sep 05th 2013 13825 posts
Thu Jan-15-15 10:59 AM
3. "Two is definitwly not as strong as One" In response to Reply # 1 Thu Jan-15-15 11:00 AM by Atillah Moor
but I thought it filled in some things left out of One. Also it made me curious about what (if anything) "Freeway" was doing around that time. The way the focus of Part Two tells it-- he was the biggest game in town. That wouldn't add up if Ricky was in business then.
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Atillah Moor Member since Sep 05th 2013 13825 posts
Thu Jan-15-15 11:52 AM
7. "That real nigga shit bothered me though " In response to Reply # 4 Thu Jan-15-15 11:52 AM by Atillah Moor
Dude referred to himself as such in the same breath as saying some sort of self destructive dribble about what a real nigga does/is. Shit made me think "if that's the definition of real nigga then that's the last thing I'd want to be". Now I gotta find that quote lol.
They just showed up in my queue like two weeks ago.
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11. "yeah i didn't feel that. I do admire his determination though" In response to Reply # 7
Like if he didn't have the shit on video, letters and Rafi vouching i would not have believed this shit.
Like CC1 had Roberts just laying it out there...u believed him because he was just like fuck it i'll tell it all. Mickey was the same. They taught me in that doc
CC2 I was like This dude aint know her then he had shit on camera and i was like wow. Who would have thought to do that shit in the 80s like that. He had a muthafuckin PLAN.
9. "You have to watch 'Cocaine Cowboys 1' to really appreciate 'CC 2'" In response to Reply # 0 Thu Jan-15-15 12:15 PM by vee-lover
I agree that the first documentary was more compelling but I also thought the 2nd one was solid, too.
Just the whole idea of how this guy Charles Cosby got involved w/the Griselda Blanco cartel in the first place. That ish took hella patience to keep writing her and she not responding back for like a year I think it was. The drug trade at that time was exploding because of the Griselda Blanco and other Columbian cartels...and right in the midst of this is this improbable blk dude from Oakland somehow mixed up in the middle of it all...
(That's a great a compelling story)
The whole Kennedy kidnapping plot that was accidentally foiled. He was right in the mix of all of that. That was kinda funny to me that he wasn't afraid and had no qualms w/getting involved w/this very dangerous underworld of drug trafficking but when it came to kidnapping a Kennedy he was like nah that's where I draw the line lol.
And
He was really the survivor out of that whole sordid world who kept his bread and didn't get killed or sent to prison.
>Part One focuses on the Miami trade and PArt Two focuses on >LA. Both were good watches, but Part One seemed to present a >better picture of the overall trade. They almost touched on >Iran Contra and the CIA in Part One and made absolutely no >mention of "Freeway" Ricky Ross in Part Two which I found >odd/interesting. > >Also Part One kind of shed some light on perhaps why Florida >has such infamous laws such as "Stand your ground". Seems like >they are left overs from when things got pretty serious for >the locals down there. > >Anyway check em' out if you're so inclined.
24. "Sir, it's C-o-l-o-m-b-i-a" In response to Reply # 9
>I agree that the first documentary was more compelling but I >also thought the 2nd one was solid, too. > >Just the whole idea of how this guy Charles Cosby got involved >w/the Griselda Blanco cartel in the first place. That ish took >hella patience to keep writing her and she not responding back >for like a year I think it was. The drug trade at that time >was exploding because of the Griselda Blanco and other >Columbian cartels...and right in the midst of this is this >improbable blk dude from Oakland somehow mixed up in the >middle of it all... > >(That's a great a compelling story) > >The whole Kennedy kidnapping plot that was accidentally >foiled. He was right in the mix of all of that. That was kinda >funny to me that he wasn't afraid and had no qualms w/getting >involved w/this very dangerous underworld of drug trafficking >but when it came to kidnapping a Kennedy he was like nah >that's where I draw the line lol. > >And > >He was really the survivor out of that whole sordid world who >kept his bread and didn't get killed or sent to prison. > > > >>Part One focuses on the Miami trade and PArt Two focuses on >>LA. Both were good watches, but Part One seemed to present a >>better picture of the overall trade. They almost touched on >>Iran Contra and the CIA in Part One and made absolutely no >>mention of "Freeway" Ricky Ross in Part Two which I found >>odd/interesting. >> >>Also Part One kind of shed some light on perhaps why Florida >>has such infamous laws such as "Stand your ground". Seems >like >>they are left overs from when things got pretty serious for >>the locals down there. >> >>Anyway check em' out if you're so inclined. >
The Wordsmith Member since Aug 13th 2002 17070 posts
Thu Jan-15-15 07:12 PM
20. "A former coworker told me about when he tried to join the DEA." In response to Reply # 10
Said the folks interviewing him told him that you REALLY see the dark side of humanity working in that field. They told him stories (from their experiences) about things such as folks using children as shields during shootouts and what have you.
14. "RE: Cocaine Cowboys 1 and 2 are on Netflix" In response to Reply # 0
>Part One focuses on the Miami trade and PArt Two focuses on >LA. Both were good watches, but Part One seemed to present a >better picture of the overall trade. They almost touched on >Iran Contra and the CIA in Part One and made absolutely no >mention of "Freeway" Ricky Ross in Part Two which I found >odd/interesting.
I'll make sure to watch these this weekend.
Pardon my ignorance, but did Ricky Ross pump weight outside of California? My memories from Dark Alliances are foggy, but I don't remember that book referencing him branching out of Cali too tough, but I could be wrong because it's been a while since I read that book and theres a ton of names in there as well.
Atillah Moor Member since Sep 05th 2013 13825 posts
Thu Jan-15-15 01:41 PM
16. "according to Wikipedia (I really need to start donating)" In response to Reply # 14
Ross has said he operated drug sales not only in Los Angeles but in places across the country including St. Louis, New Orleans, Texas, Kansas City, Oklahoma, Indiana, Cincinnati, North Carolina, South Carolina, Baltimore, Cleveland, and Seattle. He has said that his most lucrative sales came from the Ohio area.
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Atillah Moor Member since Sep 05th 2013 13825 posts
Thu Jan-15-15 10:53 PM
22. "This is the law that I thought was a factor" In response to Reply # 21
In 1987, however, Florida enacted a uniform concealed-carry law which mandates that county authorities issue a permit to anyone who satisfies certain objective criteria. -2nd paragraph of "The Florida Experience"
Your article is more directly connected though.
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