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"$7500 for a 2br spot in San Francisco "


  

          

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/apa/4844716806.html




when I lived in SF this place was RIGHT next to my old house.

NYC is expensive but this shit is on another level. This is not in the fancy part of town, its not the hood part but its been on the come up for the past 15 years.



I had to share this fuckery.

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that view tho. nm
Jan 14th 2015
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$7500 the view better be of a Caribbean Beach. A nude one.
Jan 14th 2015
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is only from the roof. IN the apartment you are looking at street.
Jan 14th 2015
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wow.
Jan 14th 2015
3
i sent a nasty email. Lol
Jan 14th 2015
5
nice
Jan 14th 2015
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*applause
Jan 14th 2015
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i hope the $7500 is an error.
Jan 14th 2015
13
      nope! no error, thats the new Vida complex.
Jan 14th 2015
16
What did you say?
Jan 14th 2015
18
RE: What did you say?
Jan 14th 2015
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      They're going to add you to their mailing list
Jan 15th 2015
113
=)
Jan 14th 2015
50
That's not an outlandish rent in NYC
Jan 14th 2015
8
Everything is bigger in Texas
Jan 14th 2015
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RE: Everything is bigger in Texas
Jan 14th 2015
12
my friend in SF pays $8500 for a studio.
Jan 14th 2015
10
whoa...which means this friend pulls 250k annually.
Jan 14th 2015
14
. . .
Jan 14th 2015
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      totally serious. using the 40% rule thats the ideal amount earned
Jan 14th 2015
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           15 square feet he said.
Jan 14th 2015
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                hyperbole for comedic affect
Jan 14th 2015
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                lol
Jan 14th 2015
24
I'm a simple guy when it comes to lodging and I don't need much but
Jan 14th 2015
82
FOH, it's outlandish in any city...
Jan 14th 2015
35
you're buggin' out, you're buggin' out (c) tribe
Jan 14th 2015
61
      look how much she pays for rent... LOL
Jan 14th 2015
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      LoL ikr they got 2br in 650sq ft? Way day do dat doe?
Jan 14th 2015
77
           550!
Jan 14th 2015
84
           sounds like they ran game on her...
Jan 15th 2015
112
It's funny how people will come in saying,"That's not a lot per mo."
Jan 14th 2015
11
lol
Jan 14th 2015
15
Bruh, I'm hurt over this $180 cable bill and $110 cell phone plan
Jan 14th 2015
20
I swear some of these folks still live with their momma.
Jan 14th 2015
34
thats my cable bill!
Jan 14th 2015
42
      I tried to cut it off on Monday by my wife tried to cut me
Jan 14th 2015
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           I feel sick paying over 300 a month for tv and cell phones
Jan 14th 2015
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                Thats what I'm trying to figure out
Jan 14th 2015
95
                     If you fight tooth and nail you can keep telecom down. Cell phone ...
Jan 14th 2015
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                          I had to pay $300 to watch the game on Monday. $300 college PPV
Jan 15th 2015
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                          *salutes*
Jan 15th 2015
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It's not a lot tho
Jan 14th 2015
22
Baller Alert!!!
Jan 14th 2015
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dog, it's a fucking lot
Jan 14th 2015
27
You saw my response to him
Jan 14th 2015
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and if you are pulling 350k would you really want to be there?
Jan 14th 2015
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      Word! If I'm pulling 350k I'm not living in that closet.
Jan 14th 2015
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      wrong you would live in that closet so you can make 350k
Jan 15th 2015
116
      you will not make 350k yr living elsewhere
Jan 15th 2015
115
MY DUDE! I Love it!!!
Jan 14th 2015
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What you're getting is not worth $7000 at all...
Jan 14th 2015
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6qk1AFH9Y4
Jan 14th 2015
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everybody is in the top 5%... vicariously
Jan 14th 2015
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LOL.. Right. We'er all Wolves of Wall Street.
Jan 14th 2015
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      LOL.. people in $700 apartments in flyover country
Jan 14th 2015
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it's not a lot for new york. that's why i don't live there
Jan 14th 2015
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      It IS a lot for NYC.. it isn't a lot for Wall St/Hedge Fund
Jan 15th 2015
118
reason why I will never move back home
Jan 14th 2015
25
In NYC its estimated as much as 25% of Manhattan apartments are 'vacant'
Jan 14th 2015
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this is what pisses me off
Jan 14th 2015
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      renters laws prevent you from letting short term renters in your unit
Jan 14th 2015
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over priced trash city
Jan 14th 2015
31
Kinda feel you on this
Jan 14th 2015
38
it might be though
Jan 14th 2015
46
lol not just the dogs
Jan 14th 2015
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no way, our summers are amazing.
Jan 14th 2015
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      NY summers are the next worse
Jan 14th 2015
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           lol i love that weather...feels like home.
Jan 15th 2015
125
def overrated. wouldn't live there unless had to for work
Jan 14th 2015
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SF is underwhelming and overhyped
Jan 14th 2015
100
a friend of mine just moved to SF. He is a preacher
Jan 14th 2015
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So he has a parsonage. That's great!
Jan 14th 2015
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      yup.. they make 150K a year and live rent free
Jan 14th 2015
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           I wish him and the congregation all the best.
Jan 14th 2015
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*mind blown* that's more than 3 times my mortgage
Jan 14th 2015
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6X my mortgage... insane
Jan 14th 2015
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but for that??
Jan 14th 2015
43
that hallway made me chuckle
Jan 14th 2015
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THIS.
Jan 14th 2015
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*puts on 'broke with expensive taste'*
Jan 14th 2015
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is the roof even private?
Jan 14th 2015
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      for 7500 it should be.. but since it wasn't in the floor plans
Jan 14th 2015
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           i can confirm that it is not private
Jan 14th 2015
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                I didn't think about it
Jan 14th 2015
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lol wtf are the walls lined with gold or something?
Jan 14th 2015
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that area is a dump
Jan 14th 2015
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What It's Like To Get Kicked Out Of Your Neighborhood (video)
Jan 14th 2015
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great piece, thanks! looks like he did the (sick) beats too.
Jan 14th 2015
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IN THE MISSSION??????
Jan 14th 2015
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exactly. you get it.
Jan 14th 2015
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      when i was there in 2013
Jan 14th 2015
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           new money
Jan 14th 2015
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RE: $7500 for a 2br spot in San Francisco
Jan 14th 2015
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Fuck this listing
Jan 14th 2015
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how many roommates do you have bro
Jan 14th 2015
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lofl.
Jan 14th 2015
101
The entire Bay is expensive as shit
Jan 15th 2015
121
what up! former bartlett resident for 8 years
Jan 14th 2015
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probably geared towards corp housing
Jan 14th 2015
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hell naw
Jan 14th 2015
78
there's a part of my that romanticized moving to the south...
Jan 14th 2015
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yeah it had to be either cold as shit or hick as shit
Jan 14th 2015
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You guys are destroying my living in SF dreams. Should I move to Japan?
Jan 14th 2015
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I hear real estate and space are abundant there LMAO
Jan 14th 2015
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Post #48
Jan 14th 2015
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move to france. my friend has 3-4brs for $800
Jan 14th 2015
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suburbs of luxembourg in france, belgium, germany are all = OMAHA
Jan 15th 2015
110
It was easier for me to get a decent place in Japan
Jan 15th 2015
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$7,500 mortgage...You can afford a house up to $1,177,834
Jan 14th 2015
85
Fuck that ugly ass building.
Jan 14th 2015
90
flagged for removal?
Jan 14th 2015
93
Ha!
Jan 14th 2015
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fatality!
Jan 14th 2015
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hahah
Jan 14th 2015
102
what are working people to do when Cities
Jan 14th 2015
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truly what sf has been struggling with for years now
Jan 15th 2015
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What about Oakland? Isn't it close enough and more affordable?
Jan 15th 2015
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      oakland is not getting cheap. it's expensive now too
Jan 15th 2015
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           damn
Jan 15th 2015
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           yeah a cab is like 30 bucks to oakland
Jan 15th 2015
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           the gotdamn bart is so fucking expensive compared to the subway
Jan 15th 2015
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its apparently our imagination
Jan 15th 2015
124
Trulia listing in case anyone missed it
Jan 14th 2015
104
other comps on Trulia are all in the 3500 to 5500 range
Jan 15th 2015
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apartment? FOH in 72pt bold font.
Jan 15th 2015
108

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1. "that view tho. nm"
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2. "$7500 the view better be of a Caribbean Beach. A nude one. "
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And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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4. "is only from the roof. IN the apartment you are looking at street."
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3. "wow."
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fuck you.

  

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5. "i sent a nasty email. Lol"
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Fuck this listing.

fuck you.

  

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6. "nice"
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7. "*applause "
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13. "i hope the $7500 is an error."
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b/c...really.

fuck you.

  

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16. "nope! no error, thats the new Vida complex. "
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18. "What did you say?"
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79. "RE: What did you say?"
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that they should be ashamed of themselves as listing this apartment at such a ridiculous price represents everything that is currently wrong w/SF.

fuck you.

  

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113. "They're going to add you to their mailing list"
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and send you ridiculously priced apt listing ...lmao
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50. "=)"
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8. "That's not an outlandish rent in NYC "
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A friend was paying 13k for 3 bedrooms yrs ago. Now 10k. That's reportedly around what the hedge fund mgr who was killed by his son was paying for their rental. So that's pretty typical. I'm sure there are 30k-100k a month spots in New York and Cali. There's enough competition that that landlord will have his pick of renters to choose from.

Also, 1100 sq feet is huge and they could create 2 apts out of that. I have 2brs in 650sq feet and I get charged basically the 1br rate for my hood bc that's basically what the sq footage is.

  

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9. "Everything is bigger in Texas"
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>Also, 1100 sq feet is huge and they could create 2 apts out of
>that. I have 2brs in 650sq feet and I get charged basically
>the 1br rate for my hood bc that's basically what the sq
>footage is.


We have 1200 sq ft 2br and feel squished
Before we had a 750 sq ft one bedroom and lived on top of one another.

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12. "RE: Everything is bigger in Texas"
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>>Also, 1100 sq feet is huge and they could create 2 apts out
>of
>>that. I have 2brs in 650sq feet and I get charged basically
>>the 1br rate for my hood bc that's basically what the sq
>>footage is.
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>We have 1200 sq ft 2br and feel squished
>Before we had a 750 sq ft one bedroom and lived on top of one
>another.

Well do the math. I have 650 to myself. You're 1200 divided by 3 or 750 divided by 2.

  

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10. "my friend in SF pays $8500 for a studio."
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it's 15 sq ft.

he works for Google though.

fuck you.

  

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14. "whoa...which means this friend pulls 250k annually. "
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goddamn.

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17. ". . ."
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http://i.bittwiddlers.org/K7G.gif

fuck you.

  

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19. "totally serious. using the 40% rule thats the ideal amount earned "
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21. "15 square feet he said."
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23. "hyperbole for comedic affect"
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is what I thought was happening

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24. "lol"
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82. "I'm a simple guy when it comes to lodging and I don't need much but"
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35. "FOH, it's outlandish in any city... "
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61. "you're buggin' out, you're buggin' out (c) tribe"
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there are probably 250K a month rents somewhere but they are way out on the outskirts. you're talking about this cat who has millions and manages a hedge fund like he is some normal dude.

probably what i took issue with most was describing 1100 sq feet as "huge."

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67. "look how much she pays for rent... LOL"
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she is renting on the cheap while shrugging off 10K a month...

  

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77. "LoL ikr they got 2br in 650sq ft? Way day do dat doe?"
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84. "550!"
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112. "sounds like they ran game on her..."
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it's 2BR's but we are only going to charge you for 1.

  

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11. "It's funny how people will come in saying,"That's not a lot per mo.""
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Like they spend $7000 a month on anything..

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15. "lol"
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20. "Bruh, I'm hurt over this $180 cable bill and $110 cell phone plan"
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Comcast and tmobile out here caking

We spend $3,600 on phone and tv when twenty years ago you could spend $10 a month only on a landline and watch regular tv and be fine

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34. "I swear some of these folks still live with their momma."
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42. "thats my cable bill!"
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and i'm trying to ditch that bitch
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71. "I tried to cut it off on Monday by my wife tried to cut me"
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We pay $6 per day for tv
We don't even watch it everyday

She says she wants to keep her hbo

I need internet for work

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deejboram
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72. "I feel sick paying over 300 a month for tv and cell phones"
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Like when did the game get like this where it is normal to pay $600 out 100hrs of minimum wage for a phone?

$600 for a Iphone or Galaxy

I can't
I just can't

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95. "Thats what I'm trying to figure out"
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smart phone I get
Because it eliminated me carrying CDs,books magazine and I have TV and movies
I use it for everything but verbal communication
Social media IM and texting is a plus
Actually having to talk is a minus lol
I figure they caught on and that's what I'm paying for

But with that what the fuck I need a digital phone bundle they stay forcing on me


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98. "If you fight tooth and nail you can keep telecom down. Cell phone ..."
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I was paying nearly $200 a month with Verizon and it was rising, then I switched to Sprint and that really didn't help matters that much, though it was cheaper.

Now I went to one of those old fart plans with Consumer Cellular. I make a shitload of international calls, plus a lot of work calls (interviews) and normal shit. For both of us it's under $100 a month. They are AT&T's network, it works surprisingly decent.

Cable/Internet/Home Phone I pay about $140 a month but that's with some extra services and shit. It's very hard to keep that number from rising. You have to call every six months or so and when they sweat you, ask for "the retention department." If you're still in Philly, Comcast has one, too. Be ruthless. They are.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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deejboram
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109. "I had to pay $300 to watch the game on Monday. $300 college PPV"
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on monday i get home from work at 7:13 ready for the game to start at 7:30
turn the tube on at 7:28 and I get a
"You service has been interrupted. Please call 1-800-XFINITY to resolve any issues"

Then I start cussin "bae! you pay the cable bill!?!?!?"

call Comcast and it is the past due bills dept

the recording said I needed to pay $150 IMMEDIATELY
i said fuck that and got a person on the phone
the CSR said I needed to pay $370!!!!!!
I'm like WHOOOOAAAAA

long story short, i paid that shit
five seconds after he got my CC info my tv INSTANTLY came back on
and check it, my "regular" bill should be $180 a month
$140 for triple play pack, hbo, showtime and some other premium channels then $35.99 for two cable boxes

soon as i got off the phone i told my wife she better go buy some rabbit ears tomorrow cause we can't be paying $6 a day for cable tv that she dont even watch
"well you watch football!!!!"
im like fuck that, i'll figure out a way online


funny shit is, i called my sister in san diego who has cox and her shit zonked out in the middle of the 1st quarter!!!
she paid her lil $150 past due amount
but before she could enter the 3 digit code on the back of her card her TV came back on!!!
she called tuesday cussin and fussin and they credited her like $150 for some BS she made up
im gonig to do the same with comcast today


all i know is im going to invest in cable companies
$2000 per year per household???
these mofos CAKING

but i need a tmobile or spirit air type cable company
tmobile killed the game with no contracts
spirit air killed the game with "pay as you go" airfares

i lie to you not i remember when our Pacific Bell bill was like $11.95 a month
no call waiting
no three way calling
no *69
just a got damn PHONE!!!
we had four or five channels on TV
channel 51 KUSI
channel 6 was fox
channel 8 was CBS
channel 10 was ABC
channel 39 was NBC
channel 13 was PBS

that was IT!!!




>I was paying nearly $200 a month with Verizon and it was
>rising, then I switched to Sprint and that really didn't help
>matters that much, though it was cheaper.
>
>Now I went to one of those old fart plans with Consumer
>Cellular. I make a shitload of international calls, plus a lot
>of work calls (interviews) and normal shit. For both of us
>it's under $100 a month. They are AT&T's network, it works
>surprisingly decent.
>
>Cable/Internet/Home Phone I pay about $140 a month but that's
>with some extra services and shit. It's very hard to keep that
>number from rising. You have to call every six months or so
>and when they sweat you, ask for "the retention department."
>If you're still in Philly, Comcast has one, too. Be ruthless.
>They are.
>
>

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123. "*salutes*"
In response to Reply # 98


  

          


>Cable/Internet/Home Phone I pay about $140 a month but that's
>with some extra services and shit. It's very hard to keep that
>number from rising. You have to call every six months or so
>and when they sweat you, ask for "the retention department."
>If you're still in Philly, Comcast has one, too. Be ruthless.
>They are.



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22. "It's not a lot tho"
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Gotta pay up if you wanna live in one of the world's most beautiful cities

I personally would never do it but for some it's worth it

  

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deejboram
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26. "Baller Alert!!!"
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>Gotta pay up if you wanna live in one of the world's most
>beautiful cities
>
>I personally would never do it but for some it's worth it
>


So you can spend $85,000 a year on rent and not flinch?
You doing it like that?
You want a boyfriend?
I'm not gay but I can still be your boyfriend.

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27. "dog, it's a fucking lot"
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and the vast majority of people living in that city don't pay nearly that much. You motherfuckers are so dumb when it comes to cost of living. The median HOUSEHOLD income in San Francisco is $75k. That's gross. The rent of that apartment is 172% of the monthly net income of a median-earning household. Just the rent.

  

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deejboram
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28. "You saw my response to him"
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Most ppl don't gross $85k per year let alone can spend that much on housing every year
Add in other incidentals and you're liking at spending $130k per year in bills.

So you need to be grossing like $350k at least to make that pop.

Amritsar got it like that tho

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30. "and if you are pulling 350k would you really want to be there?"
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Case_One
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33. "Word! If I'm pulling 350k I'm not living in that closet."
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"America, stop turning our Court Houses of Justice into Dens for Justified Murderers."

  

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116. "wrong you would live in that closet so you can make 350k"
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115. "you will not make 350k yr living elsewhere"
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lol.

the only people making that kind of money in omaha are doctors and business owners. there are no jobs that pay that in most of the country.

  

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Case_One
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32. "MY DUDE! I Love it!!! "
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>and the vast majority of people living in that city don't pay
>nearly that much. You motherfuckers are so dumb when it comes
>to cost of living. The median HOUSEHOLD income in San
>Francisco is $75k. That's gross. The rent of that apartment is
>172% of the monthly net income of a median-earning household.
>Just the rent.


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StephBMore
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47. "What you're getting is not worth $7000 at all..."
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i won't deny that it's a nice place with nice amenities but it's not worth $7000...at the most I'd say $5000 but shit...that's still alot. even if you have a roommate and split it, it's $3500 per person which breaks down to $30K a year...if the avg income is $85K, after taxes that's $55K...that's still over half of your take home income a year...not including the other bills a person would pay.

maybe you're wealthy and if that's true, then you should recognize your privilege to say that's not a lot when for the majority of america, it's ridiculous.

  

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54. "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6qk1AFH9Y4"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6qk1AFH9Y4

________________________________________
"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

  

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37. "everybody is in the top 5%... vicariously"
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Wed Jan-14-15 10:55 AM by Cocobrotha2

          

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<-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->
<-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->

  

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Case_One
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39. "LOL.. Right. We'er all Wolves of Wall Street. "
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>.


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"America, stop turning our Court Houses of Justice into Dens for Justified Murderers."

  

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66. "LOL.. people in $700 apartments in flyover country"
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talking about it ain't expensive...LOL.

  

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91. "it's not a lot for new york. that's why i don't live there"
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anymore. i never said it wasn't a lot of money. all nyc rents are a lot of money to me.

  

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118. "It IS a lot for NYC.. it isn't a lot for Wall St/Hedge Fund"
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but it's still a lot of money for rent in ANY city.

  

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25. "reason why I will never move back home"
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I can't imagine paying $90k a year to rent any apartment, shit is ridiculous. Even when I considered moving back home over 10 years ago and was looking at apartments in the east bay, a decent studio started at $1700-2000 and one bedrooms were like $2500 & up, I couldn't do it.

I don't believe in luck, I believe in Jesus...(c)Farnsworth Bentley

  

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29. "In NYC its estimated as much as 25% of Manhattan apartments are 'vacant'"
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Because you figure that it's either brought as corporate investments, part time places for the uber rich, or on the flipside if you're a regular person with a good deal on an apartment you realize it's worth gold and you don't give it up, even if you don't really live in the city. (which is apparently part of the problem in SF since you guys have stronger rent regulation laws), thus making the problem exponentially worse.

These high prices are making things wacky in more ways then you gotta be rich to live there.

>http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/apa/4844716806.html
>
>
>
>
>when I lived in SF this place was RIGHT next to my old house.
>
>NYC is expensive but this shit is on another level. This is
>not in the fancy part of town, its not the hood part but its
>been on the come up for the past 15 years.
>
>
>
>I had to share this fuckery.

  

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lfresh
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45. "this is what pisses me off"
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it january folks are freezing in the streets
but hey investment and summer properties

*pops finger in cheek and twirls it in the air*
assholes
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89. "renters laws prevent you from letting short term renters in your unit"
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>it january folks are freezing in the streets
>but hey investment and summer properties
>
>*pops finger in cheek and twirls it in the air*
>assholes


if you got a $500,000 piece of equipment would you entrust it to a random stranger with no financial benefit in mind?
and if they fuck it up your $500,000 can go "poof" in the wind?

then you have the whole "squatters rights" laws and bs crap like that
someone could trip walking up your stairs and sue you for negligence
no thanks,
i'll pass
let them freeze
or go to a shelter

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31. "over priced trash city"
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Lol at anyone thinking its comparable to NYC

that nocal weather is dogshit too. They dont even have a real summer

the BART sucks.

nightlife is zzzzzzzz

nah.

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38. "Kinda feel you on this"
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I liked SF, but I thought it had that "dirty, divey, beach town" charm certainly not worth what it costs to live there. Never mind it could sink into the sea, burst into flame, or both at the drop of a hat.

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lfresh
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46. "it might be though"
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our summers are stinky and dirty
our winters are cold ...and dirty


fall and spring are where we shine
and that first snow day you have about 1.5 sec to look at clean snow
...i wouldnt roll around in it though folks still love to let theor dogs shit everywhere
=(

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49. "lol not just the dogs"
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I saw at least 3 human turds on the sidewalk when I was there.

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81. "no way, our summers are amazing."
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>our summers are stinky and dirty
>our winters are cold ...and dirty
>
>
>fall and spring are where we shine
>

i love fall and spring too.

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94. "NY summers are the next worse"
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To summer down south
Nasty ass humid heat
It's disgusting
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125. "lol i love that weather...feels like home."
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the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

  

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48. "def overrated. wouldn't live there unless had to for work"
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any transplant living in that region not making 150k+ is playing themselves



>nightlife is zzzzzzzz

compared to nyc yea
in general? nah

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100. "SF is underwhelming and overhyped"
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Traveled there many times, so this isn't from a resident's perspective. But, as a black woman, that city was sooooo boring.

There was nothing to do at night that didn't involve a dive bar. No dancing, no night clubs. The nature in Napa, traveling to Yosemite, Big Sur and Oakland was fun.

But I couldn't see the appeal.

I did so much to find a good groove and a guy on the bus told me, this is the wrong city for you. He could tell that I wasn't from SF immediately.

Rise & Shine
Thrive & Grind
Heart & Mind

  

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legsdiamond
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36. "a friend of mine just moved to SF. He is a preacher"
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so he pays NO RENT.

I know he knows how good he has it but seriously, I still wonder if he truly knows how good he has it.

  

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41. "So he has a parsonage. That's great! "
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"America, stop turning our Court Houses of Justice into Dens for Justified Murderers."

  

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51. "yup.. they make 150K a year and live rent free"
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Talk about being blessed. It all came together in a matter of weeks and he really wanted to move out west to be closer to his son.


  

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53. "I wish him and the congregation all the best."
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"America, stop turning our Court Houses of Justice into Dens for Justified Murderers."

  

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40. "*mind blown* that's more than 3 times my mortgage"
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I'd have to be making over 500k to justify this to myself...and single with no kids

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52. "6X my mortgage... insane"
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43. "but for that??"
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the roof deck is nice true

but the kitchen looks laminated
the bathroom mainly bathtub looks plastic


is it me or does that apt look like cheap upgrades?
maybe i dont know what i'm looking at
ive seen this kind of work in NY and i =(
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55. "that hallway made me chuckle"
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58. "THIS."
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Like $7500 is insane any way you slice it but it should AT LEAST look like it's worth it.

This shit looks hella cheap and small with builder's grade fixtures and finishes...

  

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60. "*puts on 'broke with expensive taste'*"
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*cries*
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59. "is the roof even private?"
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man fuck all that

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64. "for 7500 it should be.. but since it wasn't in the floor plans"
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I doubt it

  

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73. "i can confirm that it is not private"
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96. "I didn't think about it"
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But for that amount that's that bullshit
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44. "lol wtf are the walls lined with gold or something?"
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56. "that area is a dump"
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im all for living in the city and walking to work but doesnt there have to come a point where you say "fuck that, im buying a house and a new subaru"
and you can easily do that in the sf bay area. pick a direction.

  

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57. "What It's Like To Get Kicked Out Of Your Neighborhood (video)"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYNuR1oaQts

that kid who was in the soccer video a few months ago getting hit up for stories
funny how its buzzfeed doing the story. they probably have an office around the corner.

  

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105. "great piece, thanks! looks like he did the (sick) beats too."
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62. "IN THE MISSSION?????? "
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wow

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63. "exactly. you get it. "
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65. "when i was there in 2013"
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i went to a spot that had $16 drinks
not to say you don't have that in nyc because you do
but it was a regular ass restaurant
i haven't been in even a new resto in NYC with $16 drinks on the menu

those prices are reserved for the fancy cocktail spots

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75. "new money"
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68. "RE: $7500 for a 2br spot in San Francisco "
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That's just dumb...

You can be in a brownstone in BK for cheaper or a house in the hills in LA for cheaper..

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69. "Fuck this listing"
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I live 3 blocks from this place and pay $2700 for 2BD 2BA w/ 1200 SqFt

  

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70. "how many roommates do you have bro"
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101. "lofl. "
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i mean shit 2700... shit man

  

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121. "The entire Bay is expensive as shit"
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But we got Silicon Valley salaries, so that helps.

  

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74. "what up! former bartlett resident for 8 years"
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76. "probably geared towards corp housing"
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my friend has a similar type place in hayes valley and company pays 3-4k of it. he pays like a 1.5 for his share.

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78. "hell naw"
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im paying 1400 for 2500 sq ft.
and it looks better than that shit.
im never leaving the south.


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80. "there's a part of my that romanticized moving to the south..."
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when i see shit like this.

i mean, a 3000 sq ft. home for less than i pay for rent sounds awesome.

then i remember that it's the South. i couldn't do it.

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86. "yeah it had to be either cold as shit or hick as shit"
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i will say though that during the recession there were great deals to be had on b-grade suburbs of real cities. GREAT deals.

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83. "You guys are destroying my living in SF dreams. Should I move to Japan?"
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87. "I hear real estate and space are abundant there LMAO"
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88. "Post #48"
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92. "move to france. my friend has 3-4brs for $800"
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or whatever 650 euro is.

the suburbs of luxembourg in france, belgium, germany are all cheap.

  

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110. "suburbs of luxembourg in france, belgium, germany are all = OMAHA"
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nobody wanna live there that's why it's so damn cheap
45 mins outside of paris is fuckin farmland
and luxembourg?
denver colorado is bigger than that entire country

albeit it is a very pretty city at xmas time

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107. "It was easier for me to get a decent place in Japan"
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Than it ever was here. 45 minutes outside of Tokyo and maybe a 12 minute walk to the train. If it's something you're about doing you should do it.

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85. "$7,500 mortgage...You can afford a house up to $1,177,834"
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http://www.zillow.com/mortgage-calculator/house-affordability/

That's with ZERO downpayment

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90. "Fuck that ugly ass building."
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Catch me at the Alamo Drafthouse when it opens though

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93. "flagged for removal?"
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LOL

fuck you.

  

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97. "Ha!"
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99. "fatality! "
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102. "hahah"
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103. "what are working people to do when Cities "
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are becoming playgrounds for the rich and upper middle class.

I mean fucn young teachers, and instructors / professors BETTER have a significant other that is also pulling 30-75k in order to live DECENTLY in LA, SF, NYC etc.

what the fuck are cities when the creative and intellectual class are priced out. when the ever rare working class / blue collar family is forced to periphery suburbs for quality housing

rents are insane man

  

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106. "truly what sf has been struggling with for years now"
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city is so small, only enough room for certain people to move here.
feels so big but its 1/10th the size of nyc.
nyc and la still has places outside downtown thats somewhat affordable.
nowhere to go in sf. especially by public transportation.

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111. "What about Oakland? Isn't it close enough and more affordable?"
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teefiveten
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114. "oakland is not getting cheap. it's expensive now too"
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not $7500 but still pricey
also its not really that accessible to SF in off hours. a car is ideal. bart isn't cheap and doesn't run 24-7. you have to rely on the bus

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117. "damn"
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teefiveten
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120. "yeah a cab is like 30 bucks to oakland"
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ppl always say oakland is san fran's brooklyn but it doesnt cost 30 bucks to get home from manhattan. you'd have to live in the boonies of bk for a cab to cost that much.

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122. "the gotdamn bart is so fucking expensive compared to the subway"
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124. "its apparently our imagination"
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SoWhat we might need you to write another stern letter


http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/01/the_gentrification_myth_it_s_rare_and_not_as_bad_for_the_poor_as_people.html

The Myth of Gentrification


t started in Soho, then moved to Chelsea and the East Village. Riots in Tompkins Square in 1988 earned it some headlines but didn’t stop its creeping advance. It moved on to lower Harlem, then jumped the river to Park Slope. Williamsburg and Fort Greene followed; today, it threatens even Bedford-Stuyvesant. New York isn’t the only city where it spreads. San Francisco, Washington, and Boston have arguably been even more affected by it. Seattle, Atlanta, and Chicago have experienced it on a large scale, too.

The “it,” as you may have guessed, is gentrification. If you live in one of these cities, you probably think you know how it works. Artists, bohemians, and gay couples come first. They move into run-down—but charming and historic—homes and loft spaces close to the urban core. Houses are restored. Funky coffee shops appear. Public safety improves. Then rents and home prices start to go up. The open-minded, diversity-loving creative types who were the first wave of gentrifiers give way to lawyers, bankers, and techies. As rents and home prices continue to rise, the earlier residents—often lower-income people of color—are forced out.

That’s the story, at least. Read the Atlantic’s City Lab, and you regularly encounter titles such as “Why Gentrification Is So Hard to Stop” and “There’s Basically No Way Not to Be a Gentrifier.” Liberals and conservatives alike agree that it is bad (although liberals blame developers, and conservatives blame onerous regulations that limit development). Even Jezebel has joined in. It recently chided Taylor Swift (who earlier this year traded her comparatively affordable $2 million apartment in Nashville for a $20 million penthouse in Tribeca) for including an “obtuse” “gentrification anthem” in her latest album.

Economists found no evidence that poor people moved out of gentrifying neighborhoods at a higher than normal rate.
That gentrification displaces poor people of color by well-off white people is a claim so commonplace that most people accept it as a widespread fact of urban life. It’s not. Gentrification of this sort is actually exceedingly rare. The socio-economic status of most neighborhoods is strikingly stable over time. When the ethnic compositions of low-income black neighborhoods do change, it’s typically because Latinos and other immigrants move into a neighborhood—and such in-migration is probably more beneficial than harmful. As for displacement—the most objectionable feature of gentrification—there’s actually very little evidence it happens. In fact, so-called gentrifying neighborhoods appear to experience less displacement than nongentrifying neighborhoods.

It’s time to retire the term gentrification altogether. Fourteen years ago, Maureen Kennedy and Paul Leonard of the Brookings Institution wrote that gentrification “is a politically loaded concept that generally has not been useful in resolving growth and community change debates because its meaning is unclear.” That’s even truer today. Some U.S. cities do have serious affordability problems, but they’re not the problems critics of gentrification think they are. Worse, the media focus on gentrification has obscured problems that actually are serious: the increasing isolation of poor, minority neighborhoods and the startling spread of extreme poverty.

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Gentrification, as it is commonly understood, is about more than rising housing prices. It’s about neighborhoods changing from lower-income, predominantly black or Latino neighborhoods to high-income, predominantly white neighborhoods. Demographers and sociologists have identified neighborhoods where this kind of displacement has occurred. Wicker Park in Chicago, Harlem and Chelsea in Manhattan, Williamsburg in Brooklyn—these places really did gentrify. Sociologists and demographers captured these changes in case studies and ethnographies. But starting a decade ago, economists began to ask more nuanced questions about the displacement the other social sciences were documenting. Simply documenting that low-income people were being forced out of a neighborhood whose housing prices were rising didn’t mean in and of itself that gentrification was causing displacement, they noted. Poor people often move away from nongentrifying neighborhoods, too. Indeed, low-income people move frequently for a variety of reasons. The real question was whether low-income residents moved away from “gentrifying” neighborhoods at a higher rate than they did from nongentrifying neighborhoods.

One of the first people to explore this question in a sophisticated way was University of Washington economist Jacob Vigdor. In 2002, Vigdor examined what had happened in Boston between 1974 and 1997, a period of supposedly intense gentrification. But Vigdor found no evidence that poor people moved out of gentrifying neighborhoods at a higher than normal rate. In fact, rates of departure from gentrifying neighborhoods were actually lower.

It wasn’t just Boston. In 2004, Columbia University economists Lance Freeman and Frank Braconi conducted a similar study of gentrification in New York City in the 1990s. They too found that low-income residents of “gentrifying” neighborhoods were less likely to move out of the neighborhood than low-income residents of neighborhoods that had none of the typical hallmarks of gentrification.

Of course, displacement is not the only way in which gentrification could harm the poor. Residents of gentrifying neighborhoods might stay put but suffer from rising rents. Freeman and Braconi found that rents did rise in gentrifying neighborhoods in New York. But rising rents had an unexpected effect: As rents rose, residents moved less.

“The most plausible interpretation,” the authors concluded, “may be the simplest: As neighborhoods gentrify, they also improve in many ways that may be as appreciated by their disadvantaged residents as by their more affluent ones.”

In 2010, University of Colorado–Boulder economist Terra McKinnish, along with Randall Walsh and Kirk White, examined gentrification across the nation as a whole over the course of the 1990s. McKinnish and her colleagues found that gentrification created neighborhoods that were attractive to minority households, particularly households with children or elderly homeowners. They found no evidence of displacement or harm. While most of the income gains in these neighborhoods went to white college graduates under the age of 40 (the archetypical gentrifiers), black high school graduates also saw their incomes rise. They also were more likely to stay put. In short, black households with high school degrees seemed to benefit from gentrification.

McKinnish, White, and Walsh aren’t the only researchers whose work suggests that blacks often benefit from gentrification. In his book, Stuck in Place: Urban Neighborhoods and the End of Progress Toward Racial Equality, sociologist Patrick Sharkey took a close look at black neighborhoods that saw significant changes to their ethnic composition between 1970 and 1990. He found that when the composition of black neighborhoods changed, it wasn’t because whites moved in. That rarely happens. For black communities, neighborhood change happens when Latinos begin to arrive. Sometimes these changes can be difficult, resulting as they often do in new political leaders and changes to the character of the communities. But Sharkey’s research suggests they also bring real benefits. Black residents, particularly black youth, living in more diverse neighborhoods find significantly better jobs than peers with the same skill sets who live in less diverse neighborhoods. In short, writes Sharkey, “There is strong evidence that when neighborhood disadvantage declines, the economic fortunes of black youth improve, and improve rather substantially.”

In other words, the problem isn’t so much that gentrification hurts black neighborhoods; it’s that it too often bypasses them. Harvard sociologists Robert Sampson and Jackelyn Hwang have shown that neighborhoods that are more than 40 percent black gentrify much more slowly than other neighborhoods. The apparent unwillingness of other ethnic groups to move into and invest in predominantly black communities in turn perpetuates segregation and inequality in American society.

While critics of gentrification decry a process that is largely imaginary, they’ve missed a far more serious problem—the spread of extreme poverty. Last year, economists Joseph Cortright of the Portland, Oregon–based Impresa Consulting and Dillon Mahmoudi of Portland State University set out to examine how America’s poorest urban neighborhoods had changed over time. They started by going back to 1970 and identifying 1,100 census tracts—the county subregions that demographers use as a basic unit of analysis—located within 10 miles of the central business districts in the 51 largest cities with high levels of poverty. They then asked a simple question: How did the socio-economic status of these places change during the next 40 years?

The answer: Most had not. Two-thirds of high-poverty neighborhoods in 1970 were still high-poverty neighborhoods in 2010. Only about 100 neighborhoods saw their poverty rates decline to below the national average. The typical metropolitan area had one or two high-poverty neighborhoods that could conceivably be described as gentrifying. However, Cortright and Mahmoudi did find another, more significant change. Whereas in 1970, 1,100 census tracts within 10 miles of central business districts had poverty rates of 30 percent or higher, by 2010, the number of poor census tracts had jumped to 3,100. In other words, the number of high-poverty areas close to central business districts had nearly tripled. To make matters worse, the number of people living in extreme poverty in those areas had doubled. The residents of these neighborhoods are disproportionately black.

If gentrification occurs so infrequently—and if it may help rather than hurt existing residents—why are so many people so upset about it? There are at least a couple of reasons. The first has to do with where it happens. According to Cortright and Mahmoudi, just three cities—New York, Chicago, and Washington—accounted for one-third of all census tracts that saw poverty rates decline from above 30 percent in 1970 to below 15 percent in 2010. Half of all the areas in the nation that “gentrified” (if we still want to call it that) were located in those three cities. No wonder New Yorkers and Washingtonians think gentrification is a big deal.

The other reason we continue to talk about gentrification probably has more to do with middle-class fears. Housing prices in America’s most expensive coastal cities have risen sharply since the end of the Great Depression. Expressing concern about “gentrification” in those cities may simply be another way of expressing concern about rising housing prices. But in fact, different types of cities have very different kinds of affordability problems. In coastal cities, the cost of housing is often far higher than the cost of construction. That is primarily because supply is constrained. Builders in Washington can’t turn Adams Morgan’s row houses into a high-rise apartment district, so row house prices rise. High demand plays a role too, of course. Some of that demand reflects a preference for older, close-in housing stock. The fact that global cities deliver high wages to the most skilled workers is almost certainly more important though. Gentrification isn’t the cause of these cities’ affordable housing problem. It’s a symptom.

There’s a large group of cities with a very different affordability problem. These are Rust Belt cities such as Detroit where housing sells at or below the cost of construction. These are cities with an income problem. Cities where the cost of housing is far higher than the cost of construction require different policy solutions than cities where the situation is reversed. Coastal cities can benefit from requirements that developers set aside a portion of new units as affordable housing, although some economists argue that such zoning requirements can actually backfire by raising the cost of new housing even more, and all agree that the effect of such set-asides will be minimal. It certainly won’t reverse the transformation of these cities into enclaves for the rich.

In contrast, many residents of Rust Belt cities would benefit from rent subsidies (or cash subsidies, period), not set-asides. Yet policymakers all too often fail to fit remedies to the circumstances. Rust Belt cities require set-asides just like San Francisco, while Bay Area institutions such as Stanford hand out generous housing subsidies to new faculty, a measure that only serves to drive housing prices up, instead of searching for ways to increase supply.

Retiring the term gentrification won’t do anything to address these problems, of course. But it will remove a distraction. Let’s examine how neighborhoods really change and why some don’t. Let’s debate supply constraints (in addition to providing affordable housing) in the San Franciscos of America and figure out how to provide rent subsidies in the Rust Belt. It won’t be as fun as decrying or defending gentrification, but at least it will be directed at problems that are real.
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gusto
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104. "Trulia listing in case anyone missed it"
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http://www.trulia.com/rental/3185690499-2540-Mission-St-305-San-Francisco-CA-94110

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119. "other comps on Trulia are all in the 3500 to 5500 range"
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which is still insane.

That bastard has the nerve to ask for a deposit as well. 15K before you can step foot in that shit.



  

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108. "apartment? FOH in 72pt bold font."
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