"Outside of Blackish...how many black couples are on TV?"
That Mindy Kaling thread has me wondering. How many times do you see black people on TV and they have a fully fleshed out significant other who is also black?
We can include other minorities, but lets be honest for a second...Asian men are not allowed to date on western TV.
I think BET or TVone might have some Original programming, but you'll have to enlighten me. Every black person I can think of on Network is dating a white person. Same goes for cable.
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2. "Are any of those shows still running?" In response to Reply # 1
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14. "that's why it's your opinion." In response to Reply # 7
the reason why many of these show are only found on these other networks is because of the dispersion and branching out of audiences due to the availability of cable and sub-channel networks.
It's not 1990 anymore. Broadcast TV isn't the 800-pound gorilla it used to be. That's why they're in such a hurry nowadays to cancel anything that only does OK and doesn't become an instant hit. A lot of these programs that would never make it on ABC, NBC, CBS, or FOX can make it on cable, and earn ratings that are good enough for cable but would have them canceled in a second on broadcast. That's a lot better of an outcome than waiting around for crumbs to be thrown from corporations already worried about shrinking audiences and a need to reach the biggest audiences possible in every programming block.
Cable TV counts. Now, Netflix, Amazon and Hulu are starting to count. If they're good enough for Emmy nominations, they're good enough for this topic.
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Mon Jan-12-15 12:26 PM
60. "nah.. they aren't good enough for this topic and you know it. " In response to Reply # 14
that's like saying Bollywood and the Korean TV on my Apple TV is proof there are Asian couples and Indian couples being represented on TV.
I have no idea if their is a Bollywood app on Apple TV but I know with the highest cable subscriptions can get you damn near any TV station in the world.
10. "Terry Crews is on two sitcoms and a game show? Does he sleep?" In response to Reply # 5
"All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players: They have their exits and their entrances; And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard
16. "Cable sitcoms have lower episode orders" In response to Reply # 10
and many of them tend to be shot without studio audiences, so their total shooting times are shorter, and everyone involved can go do something else the rest of the year.
21. "Well yeah I figured that...I'm just surprised he's on 3 TV shows." In response to Reply # 16 Mon Jan-12-15 11:05 AM by Lardlad95
Even if none of their filming schedules overlap it still seems unusual.
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3. "Viola's character on HTGAWM is having an affair" In response to Reply # 0 Mon Jan-12-15 10:51 AM by SoWhat
w/a brother. and she's not terribly attached to her white husband. i'd say the brother seems more 'significant' to her. he's definitely more relevant to her interests.
we don't know exactly why she married the white guy. we know their 'romance' began as an affair. i think we know that, at least. but we don't know their full story yet. it could be a marriage of convenience. the brother could be her true love.
12. "I love Shonda Rhimes, but I can't watch any of that pulpy shit lmao." In response to Reply # 3
I watched Gray's for half a season early in college but only because the cute girls in the dorm all watched that shit on the one big screen tv in Shoreland.
"All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players: They have their exits and their entrances; And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard
24. "i'm only down w/Scandal and HTGAWM. and i'm surprised by it." In response to Reply # 12
i can't stand Grey's Anatomy b/c i so hate Meredith Grey, the main character.
i shouldn't be surprised by my love for Scandal and Murder considering i've watched daytime soaps for like 25 yrs now. and i used to watch Dallas and Knots Landing way back in the wayback.
29. "I've gotten hooked on Prime time and Day time Soaps before..." In response to Reply # 24
And that's why I now avoid them at all costs.
"All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players: They have their exits and their entrances; And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard
42. "I agree with this 100%" In response to Reply # 24
>i can't stand Grey's Anatomy b/c i so hate Meredith Grey, the >main character.
I still watch Grey's but I can't stand her character. Never could. Nearly every other character has something redeeming about them that would allow me to root for them at one point.
88. "Sandra Oh stole grey's anatomy" In response to Reply # 42
>>i can't stand Grey's Anatomy b/c i so hate Meredith Grey, >the >>main character. > > I still watch Grey's but I can't stand her character. Never >could. Nearly every other character has something redeeming >about them that would allow me to root for them at one point. > > But not her. She's horrible.
9. "RE: Outside of Blackish...how many black couples are on TV?" In response to Reply # 0
>That Mindy Kaling thread has me wondering. How many times do >you see black people on TV and they have a fully fleshed out >significant other who is also black?
Assuming we're excluding "black shows", there aren't a lot of black leads, and we can't expect spouses of secondary characters to be fully fleshed-out.
>We can include other minorities, but lets be honest for a >second...Asian men are not allowed to date on western TV.
If an Asian man is portrayed as a sexual creature, 9 times out of 10, he's portrayed as a perv.
>I think BET or TVone might have some Original programming, but >you'll have to enlighten me. Every black person I can think of >on Network is dating a white person. Same goes for cable.
15. "Okay...not fleshed out...how about more permanent than an episode?" In response to Reply # 9
"All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players: They have their exits and their entrances; And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard
33. "I stopped on TWD after season 3, and my love for Taraji P. Henson is ete..." In response to Reply # 28
Unfortunately so is my hate for Terence Howard so Empire might be a wash for me.
"All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players: They have their exits and their entrances; And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard
18. "Nah, we HAD a decade of good black TV." In response to Reply # 11
"All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players: They have their exits and their entrances; And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard
25. "Right. I wasn't complaining back then. Now I am, because there is a reas..." In response to Reply # 20
I don't think we can go back to what we had, but that doesn't mean we have to satisfied with what we have.
"All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players: They have their exits and their entrances; And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard
27. "2 decades ago now." In response to Reply # 20
and that was back when cable was still rapidly growing, and before many of those networks were able to sustain professional quality original programming.
26. "exactly, the last show I can remember was "Are we there yet?"" In response to Reply # 17 Mon Jan-12-15 11:10 AM by GrumpySmurf
The dad was a big pussy and the mom was angry within the first 2 minutes over almost every episode. I didn't hate the show but the angry mom killed the vibe.
It could be done but just let black people be black people.
34. "while he's joking, networks would much, much rather make these" In response to Reply # 30
stupid reality shows: they're cheaper to produce, quicker to produce, there's no credited WGA writers to pay (generally speaking), there's clearly next to no standard of morality, and yet people still watch them.
35. "No Cartoon Characters." In response to Reply # 30
"All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players: They have their exits and their entrances; And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard
43. "What is it? What are you talking about." In response to Reply # 37
"All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players: They have their exits and their entrances; And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard
39. "honestly, i'd rather see an asian or latino couple" In response to Reply # 0
im kinda tired of everything being blk or white... there's TONS of folks of various ethnicities who r still waiting 2 have their version of the Cosby Show... meanwhile, as much as we complain, we've had plenty of blk sitcoms...
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44. "ABC has a whole line up of ethnic comedies." In response to Reply # 39
Goldbergs Blackish Modern Family Cristella Fresh off the Boat
Yeah I'm all for Asians and Latinos getting some spotlight. Like I said to start out, no one on TV is more undermined than Asian men.
That being said, I don't understand the logic of, "Well we had the Cosby show, so we're good for a while."
I want to live in a world where I can choose from black shows that run the gamut from HBO quality right down to Public Access.
"All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players: They have their exits and their entrances; And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard
49. "I wasn't trying to say you did." In response to Reply # 46 Mon Jan-12-15 12:06 PM by Lardlad95
I was just referring to how a few people have brought up the past as if that placates the present concerns.
I didn't mean that you were literally suggesting that black people stop for a while so Asians can have a turn.
"All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players: They have their exits and their entrances; And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard
>second...Asian men are not allowed to date on western TV.
i think they realized Selfie was a rom com for John Cho and not their lead and put the brakes on dammit that show was good =( ~~~~ When you are born, you cry, and the world rejoices. Live so that when you die, you rejoice, and the world cries. ~~~~ You cannot hate people for their own good.
52. "Dude has been in like 3 shows recently that went before their time." In response to Reply # 45
Who doesn't like John Cho?
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80. "A black woman and an Asian man on TV...romantically...you crazy?!?!" In response to Reply # 74
I remember that shit though. It was a better show than I thought it was going to be.
"All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players: They have their exits and their entrances; And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard
> > And was about to marry Gabrielle Union. The cat was >winning.
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50. "The CW briefly rebroadcast (S1) /simulcast (S2) "The LA Complex"" In response to Reply # 47 Mon Jan-12-15 12:09 PM by b.Touch
a Canadian cable show where Andra Fuller (now of "Rommieloverfriends" and "Black Jesus") played Kaldrick King, essentially a roman-a-clef of DMX who was also a closeted gay man.
Kaldrick had two relationships with men (and one with a woman) over the course of the show. All persons involved were black or mixed.
97. "lowest-rated drama in network history" In response to Reply # 59
but, at the same time, one of the best reviewed.
The show was poorly promoted (it was a show about 20-somethings struggling to "make it" - Kaldrick, who is clearly not in his 20s and may not even be in his 30s, came into the picture because he was the boyfriend of one of the 20-somethings who was a main character. The CW couldn't find a way to promote the show w/o making it sound cliche)
69. "oh that is interesting" In response to Reply # 50
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70. "might bring me back to watch" In response to Reply # 53
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54. "How about that show on HBO? Any ethnic guys there?" In response to Reply # 47
"All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players: They have their exits and their entrances; And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard
there was a random one at the end of Amazon's Mozart in the Jungle. Random in the sense that the character who was gay's only lines the whole show were in the last episode to his black boo saying thanks before a kiss. Kinda irked me in the, why wasn't this a storyline prior, but maybe they'll build on it if they get a second season.
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55. "Suits...Gina Torres is dating a brotha on the show now" In response to Reply # 0
I know she's Cuban but...
She's actually dated a couple but her current man works for the firm so he's become a minor character on the show. He was on there all last season and should return unless they randomly decide to fire him.
"All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players: They have their exits and their entrances; And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard
~~~~ When you are born, you cry, and the world rejoices. Live so that when you die, you rejoice, and the world cries. ~~~~ You cannot hate people for their own good.
81. "Man I was just thinking about that shit the other day. That and Jack of ..." In response to Reply # 79
My teenage brain made me sit through a shitty sci-fi show because of Gina Torres and then a shitty Bruce Campbell show for that British chick with the huge boobs.
Man what happened to Saturday action TV?
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~~~~ When you are born, you cry, and the world rejoices. Live so that when you die, you rejoice, and the world cries. ~~~~ You cannot hate people for their own good.
96. "Nope...Jack of All Trades. It was set in the colonial era. " In response to Reply # 89
"All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players: They have their exits and their entrances; And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard
83. "Lmao...it took like 80 replies but you're right. Network at that." In response to Reply # 82
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