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double negative
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"Would it be moral if the police tested potential officers for subconscio..."


  

          

Kind of a stoner thought I've been having recently

like

what if the police tested potential hires for subconscious racial bias?
(or gender bias, or orientation bias)

What if they only hired people who scored above a certain amount?

What would change if this were the case?


If you are wondering it is possible to test for subconscious bias, Harvard has been on it for sometime with the Implicit Associate test


See them here: https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/selectatest.html

take a few

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so black ppl would never be police...
Jan 09th 2015
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im playing dumb; how do you figure?
Jan 09th 2015
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      #2
Jan 09th 2015
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considering we live in a America.... everyone has some modicum
Jan 09th 2015
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true
Jan 09th 2015
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      well considering they're always describing the stress and adrenaline
Jan 09th 2015
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           maybe being a cop shouldn't just be a career for everybody.....
Jan 09th 2015
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           soooo once again you just wanna shoot down everything??
Jan 09th 2015
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                yeah i never understood why we dont make the police more military-ish
Jan 09th 2015
10
                     because of it's roots in slavery and breaking up organizations
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                          So are you saying we should or shouldn't militarize our police force?
Jan 09th 2015
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           good idea, however the first hole I see is....
Jan 09th 2015
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not immoral, but not practical either
Jan 09th 2015
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Nobody passes that test in the US - Implicit Association Test
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RE: Would it be moral if the police tested potential officers for subcon...
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deejboram
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1. "so black ppl would never be police..."
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>Kind of a stoner thought I've been having recently
>
>like
>
>what if the police tested potential hires for subconscious
>racial bias?
>(or gender bias, or orientation bias)
>
>What if they only hired people who scored above a certain
>amount?
>
>What would change if this were the case?
>
>
>If you are wondering it is possible to test for subconscious
>bias, Harvard has been on it for sometime with the Implicit
>Associate test
>
>
>See them here:
>https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/selectatest.html
>
>take a few

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4. "im playing dumb; how do you figure?"
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5. "#2"
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what she said>

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bonitaapplebaum71481
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2. "considering we live in a America.... everyone has some modicum"
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of prejudice.

what would be considered a safe amount? who's conducting the research? would there be regular tests in the event such a variable can increase?

One thought I had was what if being a police officer was more like serving a tour in combat?



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3. "true "
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>of prejudice.
>
>what would be considered a safe amount?

to be determined

who's conducting the
>research?

good question. i can see how number can be massaged a bit to make it so its a non issue

would there be regular tests in the event such a
>variable can increase?
>
>One thought I had was what if being a police officer was more
>like serving a tour in combat?


go on...

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bonitaapplebaum71481
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6. "well considering they're always describing the stress and adrenaline"
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maybe being a cop shouldn't just be a career for everybody...

you'd have large numbers of qualified young people serving their community for maybe a span of two years, then there'd a be a reintegration process, live like a citizen for a while

Maybe based on your past performance, you're eligible to sign back up for another tour, and so on and so forth... depending on your success, you could move up in the hierarchy or have fond memories of fighting crime.

Perhaps that way, passionate, successful, and morally motivated individuals protect our streets and our people.


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deejboram
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7. "maybe being a cop shouldn't just be a career for everybody....."
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Fri Jan-09-15 09:33 AM by deejboram

  

          

yeah that's what i was thinking too

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bonitaapplebaum71481
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8. "soooo once again you just wanna shoot down everything??"
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not like I'm sending any proposal to anyone *shrug*

but keep doing you pimp and worry about your own shit


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deejboram
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10. "yeah i never understood why we dont make the police more military-ish"
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like a quasi national guard
they'd have better training
better weaponry
maybe the criminals would be more fearful of the police force too which would deter crime

i dont care about most "crime" like selling weed or writing bad checks

but murderers and rapists gots ta GO!

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13. "because of it's roots in slavery and breaking up organizations"
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Bitter roots means bitter fruit. it can't be anything other than what it is.

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15. "So are you saying we should or shouldn't militarize our police force?"
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9. "good idea, however the first hole I see is...."
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how do you counter the thought that people think of themselves as lifetime officers of the law? i like your idea but then it would be doing direct battle with culture and culture is a bit of a tough thing to challenge

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Atillah Moor
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11. "not immoral, but not practical either"
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you'd have no viable candidates (which maybe isn't a bad thing). Routine psych evals, therapy sessions,better training, higher standards, and better pay and rewards for outstanding achievement would probably be more effective.

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12. "Nobody passes that test in the US - Implicit Association Test"
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https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/uk/selectatest.jsp

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14. "RE: Would it be moral if the police tested potential officers for subcon..."
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