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deejboram
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"Top 5: Producers Edition"


  

          

Rappers wouldn't be anything without production.
Many times, production actually MAKES the rapper.
Got me to thinking who would be the Top 5 producers in hip hop.

I'd go with:

(in no particular order)

Primo
Battlecat
Daz
Dre
Quik


I can easily name 15 more that could easily take the spot of one of these five.
Shit,
Kanye
Timbaland
Dilla
Missy
Large P
Rza
Diamond D
Prince Paul
Neptunes/Pharell

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no honorable mention of Alchemist, DJ Scratch or even 9th Wonder?
Jan 03rd 2015
1
Alchemist, scratch, hit squad, Tony draper, beats by the pound
Jan 03rd 2015
3
Primo, Dilla, Mannie Fresh, Dre and Rza
Jan 03rd 2015
2
Ooo mannie! Dupree! I ain't include diddy cuz he dont produce to me
Jan 03rd 2015
4
      I never considered Diddy a producer either, I just mentioned him cuz
Jan 04th 2015
14
Pete rock, ali shaheed, scott storch
Jan 03rd 2015
5
Pete Rock, Large Professor, Primo, Manny Fresh, Karriem Riggins
Jan 03rd 2015
6
definitely Pete Rock. any list of producers without him mentioned is a d...
Jan 03rd 2015
10
      I feel the same about Extra P and Primo as well.
Jan 03rd 2015
12
No order
Jan 03rd 2015
7
And I thought *I* was West Coast leaning...haha
Jan 03rd 2015
8
forgot about Quik.
Jan 03rd 2015
9
Hmmmmm....
Jan 03rd 2015
11
I consider Bomb Squad, Beatminerz, Organized Noize & Beats By The Pound
Jan 04th 2015
16
Pete/Preem/RZA/Dre/Dilla
Jan 03rd 2015
13
hip hop only?
Jan 04th 2015
15
ONP, Timbaland, DJ Quik, The Neptunes, Kanye
Jan 04th 2015
17
Dr. Dre. Premo. Dilla. Larry Smith. Timbaland.
Jan 04th 2015
18
Not sure of old school but new school producers all use "help"
Jan 04th 2015
19
Dr. Dre, DJ Premier, RZA, Q-Tip, Kanye
Jan 04th 2015
20
Lmao @ daz
Jan 04th 2015
21
why you hatin on Dat Nygga...
Jan 04th 2015
22
      Name a classic beat Daz made after Dre & Quik left Death Row
Jan 04th 2015
25
      i take it you're saying Daz wouldn't be shit without Dre?
Jan 04th 2015
26
      It's pretty much a fact. Even his own cousin Snoop says so
Jan 04th 2015
27
      better yet.. name a beat daz did before death row
Jan 04th 2015
32
      just bcz you stated it means what?
Jan 04th 2015
28
           i know two niggas personally that was on Dre's payroll for beats
Jan 04th 2015
29
                and i interned at skip saylor and worked at echo sound
Jan 04th 2015
30
                     LOL wtf? that adds nothing to the convo
Jan 04th 2015
31
                          you knowing niggas that know niggas on dres payroll dont either
Jan 04th 2015
33
                               ok ok OK man. take Daz off the Top5 list
Jan 04th 2015
34
                                    warren g gets more credit for his beats than daz
Jan 04th 2015
35
                                         Warren G has made a lot of dope shit w/o any Dre involvement
Jan 04th 2015
36
                                              Yea I don't put Warren and Daz in the same category.
Jan 04th 2015
38
RZA, Primo, Dilla, Pete Rock and Alchemist.
Jan 04th 2015
23
Not Top5 but Top 20 I'll include DJ Pooh, Eswift, Madlib, Ant Banks
Jan 04th 2015
24
Madlib, RZA, DOOM, DJ Premier, Dilla
Jan 04th 2015
37
I would have Prince Paul, Exile and Black Milk...
Jan 04th 2015
39
First 5 off the top
Jan 04th 2015
40
I'm old school wit it...
Jan 04th 2015
41
De La (all of em), Bomb Squad, Dre, Preem, Dilla
Jan 04th 2015
42

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1. "no honorable mention of Alchemist, DJ Scratch or even 9th Wonder?"
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3. "Alchemist, scratch, hit squad, Tony draper, beats by the pound"
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I honestly don't know 9th's work off the top of my head
I know he do little brother shit but they too new for me and I know none of their music
To me, 9th could be dj mustard

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2. "Primo, Dilla, Mannie Fresh, Dre and Rza"
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Sat Jan-03-15 09:25 PM by homer_pimpson225

  

          

In no particular order of course!

BTW: Jermaine Dupri is hugely underrated! Niggas think it was Diddy, but I think JD ruled the Shiny Suit Era of Hip Hop.

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4. "Ooo mannie! Dupree! I ain't include diddy cuz he dont produce to me"
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Diddy hire all the best talent like chucky thompson

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14. "I never considered Diddy a producer either, I just mentioned him cuz"
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... whenever people mention the Shiny Suit Era his name is usually the first to come to mind.

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5. "Pete rock, ali shaheed, scott storch"
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There are many with a lot of talent
The thing is about quantity now.

Unlike rappers, you can't only make two nice albums and be consider top 5 (I see you biggie)

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6. "Pete Rock, Large Professor, Primo, Manny Fresh, Karriem Riggins"
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Edit: Honorable Mention

Q-Tip
Madlib
Diamond D

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10. "definitely Pete Rock. any list of producers without him mentioned is a d..."
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12. "I feel the same about Extra P and Primo as well. "
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I left Dilla off but his body of work is top 3 no question for me.

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7. "No order"
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Dilla
Organized Noize
Dre
Preem
Tunes

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8. "And I thought *I* was West Coast leaning...haha"
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Dre
Quik
Primo
Dilla
Neptunes

Honorable mention to No ID, Kanye and Organized Noize. Pete Rock and QTip too I suppose.

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9. "forgot about Quik. "
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11. "Hmmmmm...."
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No order

Premo
Dre
Pete
Large Pro
Marley Marl

I'd add The Bomb Squad in the top 5 if it weren't a collective (and bump Extra P or Marley, can't say which right now)

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16. "I consider Bomb Squad, Beatminerz, Organized Noize & Beats By The Pound"
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Sun Jan-04-15 12:28 AM by homer_pimpson225

  

          

... to be one solitary unit, so yes they should count as one.

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13. "Pete/Preem/RZA/Dre/Dilla"
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15. "hip hop only?"
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Organized Noize, Just Blaze, RZA, Neptunes, Prince Paul

  

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17. "ONP, Timbaland, DJ Quik, The Neptunes, Kanye"
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18. "Dr. Dre. Premo. Dilla. Larry Smith. Timbaland."
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And at least 3-4 of those spots are interchangeable...RZA, Q-Tip, Quik, Pete Rock, Marley Marl.

I personally just enjoy those fives beats more than Pete Rock...and I even prefer Larry over Marley, by a small small amount. That Whodini and DMC work was just....man.

I enjoy Dilla's overall sound more than Pete and even more than Premo's, but mainly the Jay Dee era...just that Soul-Funk feel and swing to it was sick.

Quik is a much better musician than Dre, but Dre is a way way better producer. And even with ghost producers...Quik surely had musicians like Kenneth Crouch, G-One, and Bacon in there on most of his best production...so it wasn't ALL on him either.

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19. "Not sure of old school but new school producers all use "help""
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>And even with ghost producers...Quik surely
>had musicians like Kenneth Crouch, G-One, and Bacon in there
>on most of his best production...so it wasn't ALL on him
>either.


Like, I know Kanye and Dre might use ghost producers to "start the beat off" but then they will come in and just add layer upon layer and fine tune all types of things/sounds in the beat to make it PERFECT

kinda like a sous chef to an executive chef.
yeah you may chop all the veggies and get the water boiling
but that executive chef will come in and add juuust the right amount o this spice or that
and flambay that meat juuuuust so perfectly that brings out things in the dish that no one knew was there

perfect pot o' gumbo

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20. "Dr. Dre, DJ Premier, RZA, Q-Tip, Kanye"
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21. "Lmao @ daz"
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nobody else laughed i will.... he was aiight as soon as the good doctor
gave up them secrets.. a. lot of his shit was still dre tho

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22. "why you hatin on Dat Nygga..."
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it's already been stated that Dre and Kanye don't create 100% of their beats themselves so why the hate?

Dat Nygga still carried Tha Row for quite some time.

Daz left his mark on "west coast" hip hop and his sound was the embodiment of west coast hip hop for quite a few summers.

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25. "Name a classic beat Daz made after Dre & Quik left Death Row"
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mind
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deejboram
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26. "i take it you're saying Daz wouldn't be shit without Dre?"
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27. "It's pretty much a fact. Even his own cousin Snoop says so"
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32. "better yet.. name a beat daz did before death row"
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lol

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28. "just bcz you stated it means what? "
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oh you believe that dre took credit for some shit he aint done for real?? lol... thats a rumor... this is funny now like it was back in 95 ...

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29. "i know two niggas personally that was on Dre's payroll for beats"
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>oh you believe that dre took credit for some shit he aint
>done for real?? lol... thats a rumor... this is funny now like
>it was back in 95 ...



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30. "and i interned at skip saylor and worked at echo sound"
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31. "LOL wtf? that adds nothing to the convo"
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33. "you knowing niggas that know niggas on dres payroll dont either"
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especially if they was on dres payroll getting short changed like all the niggas that started these rumors.. any dope beat daz made on death row best believe the doctor laid that foundation or sonically mastered that shit

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34. "ok ok OK man. take Daz off the Top5 list"
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>especially if they was on dres payroll getting short changed
>like all the niggas that started these rumors.. any dope beat
>daz made on death row best believe the doctor laid that
>foundation or sonically mastered that shit

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35. "warren g gets more credit for his beats than daz"
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but we know dre was in the room for a lot of his shit too

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36. "Warren G has made a lot of dope shit w/o any Dre involvement"
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38. "Yea I don't put Warren and Daz in the same category."
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I think Dre helped both but I think Warren was way more individually talented than Daz was. And this is coming from someone who loves both and think both Daz and Warren did great work with and without Dre. I just think Daz's work went way further downhill after Dre than Warren's did. Warren is STILL putting in good work on album cuts for several people, very unheralded.

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23. "RZA, Primo, Dilla, Pete Rock and Alchemist."
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24. "Not Top5 but Top 20 I'll include DJ Pooh, Eswift, Madlib, Ant Banks"
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Madlib is closer to a 5A than a Top 20

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37. "Madlib, RZA, DOOM, DJ Premier, Dilla"
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Though KRIT does rank higher than the others on his discography he hasn't had the chance to put out a real dud yet and it'd feel pretty wrong to throw him on a list before even mentioning Pimp C, but I do mark the fuck out for everything he does so I just felt it bore mentioning. I could have also included ?uestlove and Q-Tip if I were looking at things a little differently, and if it weren't for how much I disliked 808s at the time I reviewed it Kanye definitely would be in this list somewhere.


Top 5 lists stink man.


El-P
Prince Paul
DJ Paul & Juicy J
Kanye West
Exile

are the next five on my list, though Exile like KRIT doesn't really have the legs to warrant discussion, so after that Dr. Dre finally sneaks in with Black Milk right behind him.




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39. "I would have Prince Paul, Exile and Black Milk..."
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Near my top 5 as well. Honorable mentions for sure.

El-P, Madlib and Just Blaze deserve mention, too.

Like someone above said, top 5 lists suck cause you always feel like you're excluding so many important people. Let's just say hip-hop has had a fucking plethora of talent on the boards and we've been lucky to live through the really good stuff.

That said, I feel pretty confident in my top 5 list being pretty well set in stone as far as my ears are concerned.

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40. "First 5 off the top"
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Larry Smith
Marley Marl
Dr. Dre
Pete Rock
DJ Premier

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41. "I'm old school wit it..."
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Erick Sermon
Pete Rock
Primo
DJ Quik
Ant Banks

Gotta fit the RZA somewhere in there... but that would mean a top 6.

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42. "De La (all of em), Bomb Squad, Dre, Preem, Dilla "
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next 5:
Organized Noize
Questlove
DJ Quik
Pete Rock
Marley Marl

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