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"Michael Sam spills tea on gay nyggas playing in the NFL on Oprah"


  

          

Not like this Mike
Not like thiiiiiis

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Nobody cares
Dec 27th 2014
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Yet u were the first to reply.
Dec 27th 2014
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      lol
Dec 29th 2014
67
I hate the way u bite sev with that nygga shit. It's corny to begin with...
Dec 27th 2014
2
I love you bae!!!
Dec 27th 2014
4
If he was about his Biz like he was about his tea
Dec 28th 2014
5
I don't think it was cause he didn't have the talent
Dec 28th 2014
6
He came in the league kissing niggaz in the mouth
Dec 28th 2014
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      I agree with this actually. Not the part about the kiss but about him
Dec 28th 2014
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      he should have come out AFTER he got his million dollar payday
Dec 28th 2014
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      RE: He came in the league kissing niggaz in the mouth
Dec 28th 2014
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           RE: He came in the niggaz mouth
Dec 28th 2014
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true statement
Dec 28th 2014
9
pretty much
Dec 28th 2014
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damn this mighta been what they were afraid of
Dec 28th 2014
12
It's part of it, I'm sure there are some within the NFL that feel valida...
Dec 28th 2014
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It confirms what we knew - Sam was not the first gay NFL player.
Dec 28th 2014
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      NNN
Dec 28th 2014
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      Uh huh
Dec 28th 2014
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           just like i thought
Dec 28th 2014
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                Uh huh.
Dec 28th 2014
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                     LOL oh shit i missed the call. hmb
Dec 28th 2014
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      If that's true then maybe it's more about a rook making a spectacle
Dec 28th 2014
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      See also: RGIII, Johnny Football and a list of other rookies
Dec 28th 2014
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           you're talking about two HEISMAN WINNERS
Dec 28th 2014
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           ...who hadn't proved themselves in the **NFL** b4 participating in
Dec 28th 2014
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                Sam never proved himself in COLLEGE.
Dec 28th 2014
36
                k.
Dec 28th 2014
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                lmao i was laughing before but this is outta pocket
Dec 28th 2014
61
                     let's see where Nate Orchard ends up...
Dec 29th 2014
69
                and both of those players are being shitted on by the media
Dec 28th 2014
52
                     Try to keep up.
Dec 28th 2014
53
                          he had a first time spectacle that involves his sexuality...
Dec 28th 2014
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                          When was Michael Sam ever a QB?
Dec 29th 2014
70
                               J'Daveon Clowney, Mario Williams played same pos and had hooplah
Dec 29th 2014
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                               Better....cuz if Clowney wanted a tv show I'd tell him to STFU too.
Dec 29th 2014
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                                    ppl are mad at Cam Newtown and Manziel for their marketing contracts
Dec 29th 2014
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                                         but these guys were drafted early as shit...
Dec 29th 2014
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                               who gives a fuck?
Dec 29th 2014
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           If you've followed football you'd be aware of the backlash those two guy...
Dec 28th 2014
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                I know hunting forums where YT haaaate Manziel HATE HATE HATE
Dec 28th 2014
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                hate for the manzel family runs deep in east texas
Dec 28th 2014
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                     East Texas but all over Houston as well
Dec 28th 2014
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                          you gotta read this if you havent
Dec 28th 2014
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                               yeah i read that a year or two ago
Dec 29th 2014
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                I agree - if Sam was better he'd be playing.
Dec 28th 2014
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      of course he isn't. but in living without fear of being outed
Dec 29th 2014
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Football players show a great deal of camaraderie, more than a lot of ot...
Dec 28th 2014
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No he didn't. No persons' or teams' names were named.
Dec 28th 2014
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who has a job where they can pick whether 2 have a gay coworker or not?
Dec 28th 2014
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They're already doing it.
Dec 28th 2014
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indeed
Dec 28th 2014
20
he got fired because of lack of competency. not sexual orientation.
Dec 28th 2014
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lol there are high school footballers who'd beat shit down your leg.
Dec 28th 2014
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      ikr?
Dec 28th 2014
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      if ur unable 2 perform a task because ur coworker is gay...
Dec 28th 2014
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           the OWNERS are saying no. it is not the players.
Dec 28th 2014
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                u know what ur problem is? ur putting the pussies on a pedestal
Dec 28th 2014
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                     im explaining to you that the players have ZERO voice in this matter
Dec 28th 2014
42
SWIPEY
Dec 28th 2014
34
Glove-in-hand fit for the CFL
Dec 28th 2014
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his "childhood" abuse is typical sibling rivlary. FOH with dre...
Dec 28th 2014
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      I hate when people get in TV and start shitting on family
Dec 29th 2014
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           what if?
Dec 29th 2014
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           its obvious he doesn't... but I believe in that Kanye Family Business.....
Dec 29th 2014
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           I don't like that either but i wasn't raised in a shitty family so maybe
Dec 29th 2014
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                I agree
Dec 29th 2014
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Michael Sam aint that good. it takes talent to make it as far as he
Dec 28th 2014
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its a lot of ppl in the league right now 'that aren't that good' or ones
Dec 28th 2014
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      MS is a linebacker. not a qb or a punter or a kicker or some other
Dec 28th 2014
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      ok I see what u mean and I agree mostly except this part:
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           fair enough. i see what'chu sayin...
Dec 28th 2014
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                first 50% lack of talent then 30% spectacle last 20% he gay
Dec 28th 2014
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                     Sam's problem is his lack of speed and stiff hips...
Dec 28th 2014
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                          May??? you know no coach is gonna deal with his sassy ass.
Dec 28th 2014
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                               True... the OC for the Bears leaked info
Dec 28th 2014
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                               disrespecting the locker room rules is enough to label you a cancer
Dec 28th 2014
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      he's a slow ass LB who apparently isn't good on STs. THATS
Dec 28th 2014
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Dry Snitching at it's best.
Dec 28th 2014
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yeah, um, thats not what dry snitching means
Dec 28th 2014
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      yeah, um, yes it does and is.
Dec 29th 2014
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           you have no idea wtf you are talking about
Dec 29th 2014
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                You're wrong. Let it go (c) Frozen
Dec 29th 2014
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                LOL, you two probably use 'throwing under the bus' wrong too
Dec 29th 2014
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                I can tell that you don't know these streets...
Dec 29th 2014
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                dont save him bruh
Dec 29th 2014
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                loud and wrong... again.
Dec 29th 2014
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                Dry snitching doesn't have to be unintentional.
Dec 29th 2014
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                     ^^^ why you have to spell it out for him??? he had enough rope already.
Dec 29th 2014
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dude is a better gay personality than he is football player
Dec 29th 2014
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gay niggas be betty mcpetty. they can never just move on.
Dec 29th 2014
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its a reason coaches who become analysts but want to coach
Dec 29th 2014
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this is what I'm kinda confused about, seems like doing this interview
Dec 29th 2014
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Musa
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1. "Nobody cares"
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3. "Yet u were the first to reply. "
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2. "I hate the way u bite sev with that nygga shit. It's corny to begin with..."
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Then ur wrong ass makes it just exponentially bad

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4. "I love you bae!!!"
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5. "If he was about his Biz like he was about his tea"
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he'd still have a spot on someone's practice squad.

I'm sleep tho.

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6. "I don't think it was cause he didn't have the talent"
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Shit, case Keenum is back in the pocket, SORRY!
My relative is on the ACTIVE roster for the Broncos now, I'm not going to call him "sorry" but I think Mike Sam is just as talented as my relly. I won't say talented but I guess just as "athletic".

Many of these guys get by on size/gentics moreso than talent/skill.

So yeah, I think Sam could be on some team's practice squad right today or hell, even play on special teams.

You really can't fuck up too much on special teams.

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7. "He came in the league kissing niggaz in the mouth"
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setting up Oprah specials....

Not to say that isn't his RIGHT....but he should have done a whole lot of research on Jackie Robinson...

Come in....do your job....keep your head down....SHUN media attention....then when you've CEMENTED your status so that others can come in after you....open up.

These e-niggaz, yo....

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8. "I agree with this actually. Not the part about the kiss but about him"
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Wanting too much media attention. He shoulda definitely shunned the media instead he dove head long into all the off the field attention

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11. "he should have come out AFTER he got his million dollar payday"
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he fuct his own money up
we are seeing how the NFL picks and chooses which social outkasts they "tolerate" and those they just let burn in hell.


>Wanting too much media attention. He shoulda definitely
>shunned the media instead he dove head long into all the off
>the field attention

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10. "RE: He came in the league kissing niggaz in the mouth"
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>setting up Oprah specials....
>
>Not to say that isn't his RIGHT....but he should have done a
>whole lot of research on Jackie Robinson...
>
>Come in....do your job....keep your head down....SHUN media
>attention....then when you've CEMENTED your status so that
>others can come in after you....open up.
>
>These e-niggaz, yo....
>
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13. "RE: He came in the niggaz mouth"
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at least thats how i read it

>>setting up Oprah specials....
>>
>>Not to say that isn't his RIGHT....but he should have done a
>>whole lot of research on Jackie Robinson...
>>
>>Come in....do your job....keep your head down....SHUN media
>>attention....then when you've CEMENTED your status so that
>>others can come in after you....open up.
>>
>>These e-niggaz, yo....
>>
>>D
>

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37. "pretty much"
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12. "damn this mighta been what they were afraid of"
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15. "It's part of it, I'm sure there are some within the NFL that feel valida..."
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>

by stuff like this.

4 Better or 4 Worse

  

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17. "It confirms what we knew - Sam was not the first gay NFL player."
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He was only the first to come out publicly. We already knew there were gays playing - and some are out to their team. Which is why all of the pearl clutching and hand wringing about a queer ruining team chemistry is and was asinine.

fuck you.

  

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21. "NNN"
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>We already knew
>there were gays playing - and some are out to their team.

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23. "Uh huh"
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fuck you.

  

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24. "just like i thought"
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26. "Uh huh."
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fuck you.

  

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28. "LOL oh shit i missed the call. hmb"
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29. "If that's true then maybe it's more about a rook making a spectacle"
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>He was only the first to come out publicly. We already knew
>there were gays playing - and some are out to their team.
>Which is why all of the pearl clutching and hand wringing
>about a queer ruining team chemistry is and was asinine.

Prove you belong in the league first.

4 Better or 4 Worse

  

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31. "See also: RGIII, Johnny Football and a list of other rookies "
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who participated in media spectacle b4 they proved themselves.

It wasn't just about the spectacle. It was good old fashioned homophobia from journalists, execs, coaches and some players. That's it. That's all.

fuck you.

  

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32. "you're talking about two HEISMAN WINNERS"
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furthermore,
Neither one had a REALITY TV SHOW following them

y0u're comparing apples to diesel fuel here


>who participated in media spectacle b4 they proved
>themselves.
>
>It wasn't just about the spectacle.

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35. "...who hadn't proved themselves in the **NFL** b4 participating in "
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media spectacle as rookies. And to date both have laid eggs as NFL quarterbacks.

fuck you.

  

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36. "Sam never proved himself in COLLEGE."
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>media spectacle as rookies. And to date both have laid eggs
>as NFL quarterbacks.


He was "decent" but he was no CLOWNEY, RG3, MANZIEL, MARIOTTA or FAMOUS JAMEIS.
them dudes put ASSES IN SEATS and JERSEYS ON BACKS
that's all this NFL shit boils down too
ASSES IN SEATS
SEASON TIX sold
Beers sold at games

enough of this respectability polictics shit

RG3 is garbage
Manziel needs work
Clowney got hurt after like twenty snaps

other spectacles I remember coming outta college is Neion Deon
and he showed and proved

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39. "k."
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fuck you.

  

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61. "lmao i was laughing before but this is outta pocket"
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uh, sam was very distinguished at the college level, i just think the doubts were about his transition to the pros. relative to his position he had a lot of accolades. no DE is winning the fuckin heisman.

on top of that, yeah, lots of players have said they played with gay teammates and that the guys on the team knew about it. warren sapp and charles barkley both said it. shit barkley said it fifteen fuckin years ago.

was there any legitimate reason to fear of this guy and what he might do or say? no.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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69. "let's see where Nate Orchard ends up..."
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why aint Justin Houston name ringing no bells for MVP?
but half the announcers is pushing for JJ Watt?
who got more sacks?
but who is sexier?

Sam was beating up on bums.
And we know it.
They was playing teams like Arkansas Pine Bluff and Rolla College when he racked up like 7 sacks between those two games

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52. "and both of those players are being shitted on by the media"
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and by teammates.

so I'm not sure that is a good example. LOL

  

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53. "Try to keep up."
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My point there is simply that Sam was not cut bc he participated in media spectacle b4 he'd proved himself in the NFL as those 2 players did the same (and more) and weren't cut for it. Sam must've been cut for some other reason(s).

fuck you.

  

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57. "he had a first time spectacle that involves his sexuality..."
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I think it definitely contributed to him being cut.

Sam isn't that good but he was definitely practice squad material.

  

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70. "When was Michael Sam ever a QB?"
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In general I agree with you but you're twisting to make this shit happen.

We all know QBs get waaaaaay more freedom to bask in the limelight than other players.

Try comparing Michael Sam's media attention to someone who played his position.

Was there homophobia? Yeah, but bringing up two media focal points who happen to play the rockstar position isn't that great of a comparison.


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They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard

  

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71. "J'Daveon Clowney, Mario Williams played same pos and had hooplah"
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>Try comparing Michael Sam's media attention to someone who
>played his position.

they both were drafted #1
both by the Texans

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72. "Better....cuz if Clowney wanted a tv show I'd tell him to STFU too."
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I mean not to his face...I'm pretty sure he's 1/4 bison on his father's side.

"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard

  

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73. "ppl are mad at Cam Newtown and Manziel for their marketing contracts"
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they are like "PLAY A GAME FIRST" before you go out and get hundred millino dollar marketing contracts and be on every other commericial on my tv
subway sandwiches, gatorade, nike

them dudes is everywhere and aint played game the first

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79. "but these guys were drafted early as shit..."
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Manzeil was a little different. He wasn't the Browns first pick and well, its the Browns. They always fuck up their QB picks.

Sam was barely drafted and what other 7th rounder got 1st rd rockstar press???

This is also why Tebow fell out with his teams. When a 3rd string QB is getting media attention like Joe Montana after a SB victory it fucks up a locker room.

  

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85. "who gives a fuck?"
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LOL

it was a small point in a larger conversation.

damn.

next it'll be 'But, but...you gotta compare another DB who came out of the SEC' or 'You gotta compare another DB who came from Mizzou'...

the point stands.

fuck you.

  

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40. "If you've followed football you'd be aware of the backlash those two guy..."
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>who participated in media spectacle b4 they proved
>themselves.
>
>It wasn't just about the spectacle. It was good old fashioned
>homophobia from journalists, execs, coaches and some players.
>That's it. That's all.

are getting. RGIII was okay during his stellar rookie season, but once he started playing close to the median, we began to hear a lot of talk about how he wasn't respected in the locker room. Manziel has all of 35 pass attempts and it appears his franchise has already lost faith in him.
Of course a lot of homophobic blowhards had a lot to say about Michael Sam's NFL entrance & exit, but if he was capable of making an NFL team markedly better I believe he would be playing right now.

4 Better or 4 Worse

  

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41. "I know hunting forums where YT haaaate Manziel HATE HATE HATE"
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>>who participated in media spectacle b4 they proved
>>themselves.
>>
>>It wasn't just about the spectacle. It was good old
>fashioned
>>homophobia from journalists, execs, coaches and some
>players.
>>That's it. That's all.
>
>are getting. RGIII was okay during his stellar rookie season,
>but once he started playing close to the median, we began to
>hear a lot of talk about how he wasn't respected in the locker
>room. Manziel has all of 35 pass attempts and it appears his
>franchise has already lost faith in him.
>Of course a lot of homophobic blowhards had a lot to say about
>Michael Sam's NFL entrance & exit, but if he was capable of
>making an NFL team markedly better I believe he would be
>playing right now.
>
>4 Better or 4 Worse

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46. "hate for the manzel family runs deep in east texas"
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47. "East Texas but all over Houston as well"
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Some of it is that A&M - UT rivalry/bias
but then MUCH of it is do to him being too "Hollywood"
these good ol boys dont like his "money signs" or this big spectacle he has before he even reached the NFL

like, they seriously HATE this dude

but then others hate mcnair for not drafting him

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56. "you gotta read this if you havent"
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http://deadspin.com/the-long-con-how-the-manziels-conquered-america-1040593220

  

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68. "yeah i read that a year or two ago"
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back when folks was saying he was getting paid to play because he was sitting courtside at nba games

he was like, "i BEEEN had money!!!"

which is true

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44. "I agree - if Sam was better he'd be playing."
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He was cut bc he wasn't good enough. He was not cut bc of the media spectacle or just bc he's out and gay.

I'll ignore the bit about me following football bc I have nothing to prove to you on that. Lol

fuck you.

  

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88. "of course he isn't. but in living without fear of being outed"
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he doesn't have a stake in the Mutually Assured Destruction that I imagine helps keep other players living in secret

i doubt he outs people, but i can see folks being uncomfortable with the possibility of him knowing their business when he's looser with his than they'd like.

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14. "Football players show a great deal of camaraderie, more than a lot of ot..."
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sports. Michael Sam showed early on that he wasn't looking to be a part of that. There are people with more football talent than him, that aren't getting opportunities because their mere presence would be seen as disruptive to team chemistry.

  

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16. "No he didn't. No persons' or teams' names were named. "
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fuck you.

  

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18. "who has a job where they can pick whether 2 have a gay coworker or not?"
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these multimilionaire professional jocks r straight pussies if they think they cant do their job with a gay male in their locker room

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19. "They're already doing it."
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fuck you.

  

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20. "indeed"
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*******************************************************
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- Cory Booker

Football is a simple game; 22 men chase a ball for 90 minutes, and at the end the Germans always win
- Gary Lineker

  

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22. "he got fired because of lack of competency. not sexual orientation."
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>these multimilionaire professional jocks r straight pussies
>if they think they cant do their job with a gay male in their
>locker room

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25. "lol there are high school footballers who'd beat shit down your leg."
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>these multimilionaire professional jocks r straight pussies
>if they think they cant do their job with a gay male in their
>locker room

Let's not get too excited with these online personas.

  

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27. "ikr?"
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>Let's not get too excited with these online personas.

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30. "if ur unable 2 perform a task because ur coworker is gay..."
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even though u r paid millions of dollars.....u r a pussy in my book... and at the very least, u r the direct opposite of what being a professional is

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33. "the OWNERS are saying no. it is not the players."
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get ya facks straight hunty.

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38. "u know what ur problem is? ur putting the pussies on a pedestal"
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42. "im explaining to you that the players have ZERO voice in this matter"
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it's get down or lay down for them
these owners be trying to force these players to the owners own "moral code"
owners just dont (publicly) like gays
but we suspect more than a few owners have "wide stances"

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34. "SWIPEY"
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Michael Sam, the first openly gay player drafted by an NFL team, told Oprah Winfrey that he still dreams of playing in a regular season game and that he is not the only homosexual in pro football.

In his first interview since disclosing his homosexuality early this year, Sam described childhood abuse by his two brothers, and expressed surprise that other players in the National Football League were not inspired to come out as gay after his announcement.

"There's a lot of us out there," the defensive end said in the interview, part of an Oprah Winfrey Network documentary that aired Saturday. "I'm not the only one. I'm just the only one who's open."

Sam was the Southeastern Conference Defensive Player of the Year as a senior at the University of Missouri before graduating in December 2013.

The following February, before the NFL Draft, he announced he was gay. In May he was picked up by the St. Louis Rams in a late round of the draft.

The Rams cut him in August, but he was immediately picked up by the Dallas Cowboys practice team, only to be cut in October.

"There was nothing I could do," he said Saturday. "The roster was full already and I had to go."

After he came out, Sam heard from "a few" gay players who privately thanked him for his disclosure and said they wished they had that courage, he said.

Sam also reflected on a childhood filled with turmoil, bullied by two brothers whom he believes he will eventually forgive. "I was abused daily," he told Winfrey.

He recalled one incident in seventh grade, when his older brother broke his Most Valuable Player trophies out of jealousy.

Upon graduating college, he said, his mother handed him a letter from one of his brothers, but he chose not to read it.

"They made my life very difficult growing up," he said.

Sam said he would hold on to his dream of playing in the NFL during the regular season "as long as I can."

Asked whether he believes he's not on a team right now because of his homosexuality, Sam said, "I don't like to think that way."

"I believe good things are on the horizon."

  

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62. "Glove-in-hand fit for the CFL"
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Lower expectations, still a pretty high level of competition and a liberal atmosphere.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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65. "his &quot;childhood&quot; abuse is typical sibling rivlary. FOH with dre..."
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it abuse.

Phuck yo broke trophy.

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80. "I hate when people get in TV and start shitting on family"
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What if that letter he never read is an attempt at a sincere apology?

  

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89. "what if?"
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And what if Michael Sam doesn't care about their guilt and bullshit apology. If family is doing u wrong tell them to fuck off, it does wonders for the soul......

  

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92. "its obvious he doesn't... but I believe in that Kanye Family Business....."
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I feel like that family shit shouldnt be on TV.... its hoe shit.

Its also an Oprah staple. Everyone always goes on that show and cries about some family shit.

  

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90. "I don't like that either but i wasn't raised in a shitty family so maybe"
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I (and maybe you too) can't really relate becuz i never had a family member do me dirty or abuse me or make me feel abuse

Maybe if I had went thru something like that I would understand airing shitty family members out. I have empathy for anyone who says they were tormented and respect their right to handle the way they see fit

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93. "I agree"
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43. "Michael Sam aint that good. it takes talent to make it as far as he"
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did but it takes another level of talent to stay and compete at that highest level.

and he don't have it.

if he was more talented, the gay part of the story wouldn't be that much of a story.

if jadaveon clowney had come out the closet before being drafted, you woulda had EVERY nfl team dying to get his ass on their team. you would have every nfl fan hoping their team had a chance to get him. cuz THAT guy is just that good.

michael sam ain't that good...

  

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45. "its a lot of ppl in the league right now 'that aren't that good' or ones"
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That weren't that good that made it further than Sam. I think Sam was given a fair shot ( although I do think teams not wanting to deal with the added attention of a gay player lead to him being drafted lower than he should have and probably some anti-gay sentiment in there as well) but he didn't show and prove enuff to make the Rams squad or move from the Cowboys PS plus the fact that he was going out of his way to soak up all the media attention I'm sure didn't help his case

But to insinuate hes worst than some of the other duds in the league is a bit off the mark

He sealed his own fate yes but a lot of other duds got further

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48. "MS is a linebacker. not a qb or a punter or a kicker or some other"
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position that is rare. if you have marginal talent, but you play a position where it's not that many of you, you got a good chance of earning a check for a while.

but he's a linebacker. and LBs are plentiful. and he's way too slow to be an effective LB on a pro level.

all i'm saying is that's why he's not playing. him being gay has nothing to do with it.

i been a Cowboys fan since '79. he never got off our practice squad for good reason. you can't name A SINGLE PLAYER ahead of him that he was better than.

like you said, he had his shot. he was given a fair chance and he competed but he didn't get it done.

so now he's done.

him being gay had nothing to do with it.

i challenge you to name an NFL LB currently active on a roster that MS is better than.

what people need to know is that very few football fans are gonna turn down a guy that can help their ball club just cuz he gay. if JJ Watt said he was gay, the texans wouldnt get rid of him and if they did, every other team in the league would be lining up to get him.

MS not playing in the NFL aint about gay. it's about talent/skill...


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49. "ok I see what u mean and I agree mostly except this part: "
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>him being gay had nothing to do with it.

This is really naive, and I'm not saying him being gay was even close to being the primary reason but to say it has NOTHING to do with it doesn't recognize reality. There are still plenty of str8 men who don't feel comfortable being around gay men, let alone sharing a locker room with them. when u think about team chemistry versus what a player is bringing to the team on the field, teams are constantly looking at pros and cons. Look at the Redskins and Browns this season and the convos are rgIII, josh Gordon and Percy harvin getting bounced from the Seahawks or front offices feeling like certain players are too much of a distraction
>
>
>what people need to know is that very few football fans are
>gonna turn down a guy that can help their ball club just cuz
>he gay. if JJ Watt said he was gay, the texans wouldnt get rid
>of him and if they did, every other team in the league would
>be lining up to get him.

He'd still have a spot but some teams wouldn't want to deal with an openly gay player, for various reasons. I mean just about two years ago Chris culliver was making his feelings known about having a gay teammate on a national platform
>
>MS not playing in the NFL aint about gay. it's about
>talent/skill...
>

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50. "fair enough. i see what'chu sayin..."
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51. "first 50% lack of talent then 30% spectacle last 20% he gay"
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they will hide behind the first 80%

but as we all been sayin
if he was as good as Mnaziel or Clowney was in college
they'd be having ballon ppl make dildo swords in the stands and selling them

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legsdiamond
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54. "Sam's problem is his lack of speed and stiff hips..."
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he can't play ST's and he can't drop into coverage.

no one is going to keep a roster spot for a tweeter who can't contribute on ST's.

Only way he sticks with a team is if he bulks up and turns into a sack artist.

But this interview may have sealed his fate. I hope he was paid well for it because he may never get a call from another team.

  

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55. "May??? you know no coach is gonna deal with his sassy ass."
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>But this interview may have sealed his fate. I hope he was
>paid well for it because he may never get a call from another
>team.


that locker room shit be SACRED
and if you go running your mouth to the media about what goes on behind them closed doors you gonna be blackballed in ANY league
coaches want and like to have that confidentiality in their homes (locker rooms)

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58. "True... the OC for the Bears leaked info"
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and that dude cried in front of the team and I bet the whole coaching staff is fired over that shit.

  

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59. "disrespecting the locker room rules is enough to label you a cancer"
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and hurt your chances of getting picked up.

take sexual orientation off the table and you can take his loose lips (no pun intended) and his lack of NFL level speed and make a case for his unemployment...

  

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60. "he's a slow ass LB who apparently isn't good on STs. THATS"
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the thing that kills his ability to make a team. if you are a light in the ass defensive end, you can maybe play STs and get some burn as a situational pass rusher.

but if you are too small to play on the line. and too slow to play linebacker. wtf are teams gonna do with you? an aging slow ass linebacker may play on 1st and 2nd down because they've demonstrated savvy or leadership or some intangible shit that mitigates their physical shortcomings.

but a bottom of the roster type cat has GOT to be able to play special teams. there aren't too many slow players who are not linemen who stick around with marginal skills.

>That weren't that good that made it further than Sam. I think
>Sam was given a fair shot ( although I do think teams not
>wanting to deal with the added attention of a gay player lead
>to him being drafted lower than he should have and probably
>some anti-gay sentiment in there as well) but he didn't show
>and prove enuff to make the Rams squad or move from the
>Cowboys PS plus the fact that he was going out of his way to
>soak up all the media attention I'm sure didn't help his case

the circus shit certainly ain't help him. i think his shot w/ dallas was prolly fair. nobody was really talking about him like that on them. their defense was decimated. but they just got finished starting a rookie in their last game at MLB.

>But to insinuate hes worst than some of the other duds in the
>league is a bit off the mark

its some bum ass mfers in the league, true. i should have mentioned that backup qbs are the other position where you can be slow as fuck and not contribute on ST.

>He sealed his own fate yes but a lot of other duds got further

the media did concoct a lot of this nonsense. like they did with tebow. granted, very different situations, but it wasn't too long ago where fans (largely evangelicals who has 'annointed the broncos') were demanding that tebow start and causing mad headaches.

the risks were nowhere near what the media made them out to be (players don't give a fuck, they'll have your back if you winning and they all getting money). but the rewards were really miniscule, too.

this is why damn near everyone but the most dysfunctional nfl franchises decline to host Hard Knocks. the league is hard enough w/o no unnecessary bullshit.



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63. "Dry Snitching at it's best. "
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64. "yeah, um, thats not what dry snitching means"
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66. "yeah, um, yes it does and is."
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"America, stop turning our Court Houses of Justice into Dens for Justified Murderers."

  

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74. "you have no idea wtf you are talking about"
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DRY snitching is indirectly telling something unintentionally

how the fuck can someone agree to do an interview unintentionally?

what is he saying that we already dont know?

people like you need to stop trying to sound cool and stick to the words/phrases you know.

  

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75. "You're wrong. Let it go (c) Frozen"
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>DRY snitching is indirectly telling something
>unintentionally
>
>how the fuck can someone agree to do an interview
>unintentionally?
>
>what is he saying that we already dont know?
>
>people like you need to stop trying to sound cool and stick to
>the words/phrases you know.

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77. "LOL, you two probably use 'throwing under the bus' wrong too"
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81. "I can tell that you don't know these streets..."
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>DRY snitching is indirectly telling something
>unintentionally
>
>how the fuck can someone agree to do an interview
>unintentionally?
>
>what is he saying that we already dont know?
>
>people like you need to stop trying to sound cool and stick to
>the words/phrases you know.




And example of Dry Snitching is when Kobe snitched on Shaq.

OR

When someone gets caught doing something and work by a manager and they respond with "Well, if So-and-So can do it why can't I do it too."









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83. "dont save him bruh"
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82. "loud and wrong... again. "
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84. "Dry snitching doesn't have to be unintentional. "
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http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dry+snitching

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86. "^^^ why you have to spell it out for him??? he had enough rope already."
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76. "dude is a better gay personality than he is football player"
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he need to try to get on some sport focused andy cohen shit maybe iono

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78. "gay niggas be betty mcpetty. they can never just move on."
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87. "its a reason coaches who become analysts but want to coach"
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again tread lightly when they talk about teams, they eventually want back in the league and never know who may want them.

he will never be back in the league.

he should have just focused on becoming a better player, possibly changing position and becoming just another teammate, not the gay teammate.

Tebow found out. The spectacle coupled with limited talent will lead you right out the league.


let it shine through!!!!!!

  

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91. "this is what I'm kinda confused about, seems like doing this interview "
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Was him just saying I want the fame and not to be in the nfl even tho he says he still wants too

He knows the politics of a locker room and team so unless he's just on some fuck the nfl shit in truth I don't get why he did this interview

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