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Doronmonkflake
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"Stand your Ground defense fails. For Asian guy. (swipe)"
Thu Dec-18-14 05:35 AM by Doronmonkflake

  

          

After all, you can't just shoot people you think look like a threat.

Not if they're White.

http://news.yahoo.com/deliberations-resume-exchange-student-killing-062400337.html


Note how little it says about the young man's crime of breaking and entering. It never says what he was wearing. It doesn't mention what drugs he was on at the time or how many other houses he previously broke into. Just that the late Diren Dede was unarmed, a German exchange student and aged 17.

How interesting.

Da bayball, babeh. (c) Charlie Kelly.

  

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lol
Dec 18th 2014
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It really is unmistakable when you actually look at it.
Dec 18th 2014
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Problem was, it wasn't a black kid... Not that he was Asian..
Dec 18th 2014
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It's a joke. On us, as usual.
Dec 18th 2014
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sadly you are totally right.
Dec 18th 2014
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its both
Dec 18th 2014
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I'm starting to get disheartened with the people I like/identify with no...
Dec 18th 2014
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i'm with you on this one.
Dec 18th 2014
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I was shocked to see how fair they were to this victim.
Dec 18th 2014
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showed a nice clean cut pic of him and everything
Dec 18th 2014
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it was downright sympathetic. like maybe a kid died.
Dec 18th 2014
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that part i get. the disparity is disgusting.
Dec 18th 2014
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      The disparity is all any of my anger is about. this dude is awful.
Dec 18th 2014
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           word. glad you clarified and i share your sentiments.
Dec 18th 2014
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sadly we can not. Do not pass racism do not collect
Dec 18th 2014
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i imagine this niggas' Whitenes Counselor pulling him off to the
Dec 18th 2014
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This guy was seeing a hair stylist?
Dec 18th 2014
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Oh, and as far as I'm concerned, you take the bait? That's on you
Dec 18th 2014
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I don't feel sorry for the kid either. There are no good guys here.
Dec 18th 2014
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right, it's like people getting upset over bait cars.
Dec 18th 2014
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I think they got it right...
Dec 18th 2014
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I wonder how Asians feel about this case?
Dec 18th 2014
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Binlahab
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1. "lol"
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its...more then a little absurd but...at this point in american history nothing shocks me anymore


does it really matter?

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Doronmonkflake
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Thu Dec-18-14 05:39 AM

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2. "It really is unmistakable when you actually look at it. "
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The smear campaign against us even works on us on this board.

I see some of the Steven Candie thoughts that come out in these discussions and cringe.

Da bayball, babeh. (c) Charlie Kelly.

  

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ndibs
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Thu Dec-18-14 06:05 AM

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3. "Problem was, it wasn't a black kid... Not that he was Asian.."
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If it was a "thug" he shot it would be okay.

May have not even have been prosecuted.

You can't bait someone one but you had to go and talk to a bunch of neighbors to even find that out that he did the baiting.

Here once a month a burglar gets shot and killed by a homeowner - not even kidding - and no charges are ever filed.

  

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Doronmonkflake
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Thu Dec-18-14 06:14 AM

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4. "It's a joke. On us, as usual. "
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Da bayball, babeh. (c) Charlie Kelly.

  

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ConcreteCharlie
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Thu Dec-18-14 10:05 AM

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6. "sadly you are totally right."
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i still dgaf about this guy though, and it's good that he is going to jail

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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ShawndmeSlanted
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Thu Dec-18-14 10:13 AM

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10. "its both"
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This Asian cop in Brooklyn who shot the kid in the Pink Houses is gonna go down and take the fall for all these white cops-- and deservedly so.

But you put an asian man in front of a jury or grand jury of mostly white people and they still see us as outsiders too. There's no human element that they can relate to like when they see another white face - it's just ching chong ching .

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ConcreteCharlie
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Thu Dec-18-14 10:04 AM

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5. "I'm starting to get disheartened with the people I like/identify with no..."
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Can we not move past the race angle for two fucking seconds here?

We want this defense to protect someone who BAITS PEOPLE TO MURDER THEM? There was a similar case in Minnesota where two people were killed, and the homeowner was convicted there, too.

Let's not start calling for multiple wrongs to make a right.

Now, vis-a-vis Zimmerman, I find it interesting that so much emphasis is placed on this guy's hard on to kill someone and so little was placed on Zimmerman's. That's what I find repugnant and I'm glad it was punished here, people who want to turn self-defense into some sort of twisted, recreational pleasure.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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veritas
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Thu Dec-18-14 10:11 AM

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8. "i'm with you on this one."
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this dude purposely lured people into his house to try to murder them.

i'm sympathetic to the reality that the law is unevenly applied to different races, and that's fucked up, but if you want to bang that drum Trevor Dooley's a lot better comparison than this psychopath.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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Doronmonkflake
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Thu Dec-18-14 10:50 AM

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14. "I was shocked to see how fair they were to this victim. "
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They represented him as somebody who did something wrong in this instance and somebody with greater power killed him. They called the shooter a threat to the neighborhood. They didnt call him a thug. Or a demon. Or Hulk Hogan. Nobody made excuses. Nobody came in with corroborating lies. There was a trial. There was a sentence.

It was seeing how the trayvon case could have gone in a society that gave a damn.

That's why I'm mad. Not because this kid was white. Because they see him as a kid.

Da bayball, babeh. (c) Charlie Kelly.

  

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ShawndmeSlanted
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Thu Dec-18-14 11:07 AM

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15. "showed a nice clean cut pic of him and everything"
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Doronmonkflake
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Thu Dec-18-14 11:14 AM

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17. "it was downright sympathetic. like maybe a kid died."
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Da bayball, babeh. (c) Charlie Kelly.

  

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veritas
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Thu Dec-18-14 11:09 AM

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16. "that part i get. the disparity is disgusting."
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this dude is a piece of shit and i'm glad he's going to prison tho.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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Doronmonkflake
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Thu Dec-18-14 11:15 AM

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18. "The disparity is all any of my anger is about. this dude is awful."
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Da bayball, babeh. (c) Charlie Kelly.

  

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veritas
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Thu Dec-18-14 11:17 AM

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19. "word. glad you clarified and i share your sentiments."
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if a white kid who goes in someone's garage to steal can be treated with humanity, we ought to be able to stop with all the "perfect victim" bullshit.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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Thu Dec-18-14 11:28 AM

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20. "sadly we can not. Do not pass racism do not collect "
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40 acres and a mule.

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Thu Dec-18-14 10:08 AM

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7. "i imagine this niggas' Whitenes Counselor pulling him off to the "
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side, in hushed tones:

"No, no NO! You do not suspect or shoot WHITE kids! He was Germanic. C'mon, now, buddy. Read the fine print on your 2nd Amendment rights before you make us all look bad."


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Cold Truth
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Thu Dec-18-14 10:12 AM

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9. "This guy was seeing a hair stylist?"
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For what?

Did he actually pay for that flat ass haircut?

Yes, I'm asking the important questions here.

  

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Cold Truth
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11. "Oh, and as far as I'm concerned, you take the bait? That's on you "
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Let’s talk about “bait”.

If, for example, a pretty woman sits by you at the bar, strikes up a conversation, invites you back to her place, and you show up to get robbed/murdered/what have you?

No, that’s not on you. You (presumably) didn’t have malicious intent. Perhaps you should have been a bit more careful in your eagerness to bed a pretty girl, but outside of questionable judgment, that’s “bait” that wasn’t inviting you to do harm.

When the “bait” entails you doing something shady, well, sucks to be you. It could very well have been someone who wasn’t setting a trap, someone who was perfectly innocent and simply forgot to close the door or whatever, and if you decide to enter someone’s home uninvited? You get zero pity from me. None whatsoever. Anyone who does that shit deserves whatever they get, because yes... whoever lives there might be a psycho and that's the risk you run doing that kind of dirt.

Obviously, someone who wants to set a trap to *catch* a crook and someone who sets a trap as an excuse to kill are two different things. Someone trying to protect his family doesn’t run around bragging about how people will see it on the news, so fuck this guy two.

Still, please excuse me for not shedding any tears for the kid.

  

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Thu Dec-18-14 10:34 AM

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12. "I don't feel sorry for the kid either. There are no good guys here."
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And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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22. "right, it's like people getting upset over bait cars."
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If you had ZERO intention of stealing a car or making off with the contents of a car bait cars shouldn't bother you. I know people like to say they only put bait cars in the hood but that just ain't true. I worked in posh ass Scottsdale, AZ. Our cars were getting hit up in the parking lot during work hours (even me, got hit for my CD wallet full of classic shit and some PC parts I had just bought one day).

Scottsdale PD set up a bait car operation and our own security stepped up surveillance.

They ended up nabbing a bunch of Mexicans and white teens from the surrounding neighborhood.

Nobody got mad at having a bait car in the lot.
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legsdiamond
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Thu Dec-18-14 10:35 AM

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13. "I think they got it right... "
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hell, dude said they would see him on the news...

and why the fuck are people acting like this German kid wasn't a thief?

  

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21. "I wonder how Asians feel about this case? "
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