I'm so sick of this.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2245074/Walmart-security-guard-shoots-shoplifting-mother-dead-parking-lot-tries-escape-young-children.html

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If you have a gun you have to use it during a confrontation - or you risk losing your gun and having it used on you.

The answer for a lot of the is: less guns.

(Doesn't stop chokeholds.)

I understand why Walmart security is armed. People literally die there sometimes at sales.


But the moment you see a suspect fleeing with merchandise, your training should not be "pursue that person to the death".

It should be "that's an acceptable loss, we're a multibillion dollar corporation."

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Why should they accept a loss just because some person's too cheap to pay for it like everyone else?

Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

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you are talking about.

Like it's clear that you know nothing about guns, police work, police training, etc.

>If you have a gun you have to use it during a confrontation -
>or you risk losing your gun and having it used on you.
>
>The answer for a lot of the is: less guns.
>
>(Doesn't stop chokeholds.)


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It's like we don't care that this woman lost her life and these children lost their mother
or that another mother lost her daughter simply because it happened 2 years ago.

I realize you posted it under the assumption that it happened a few days ago, but it
actually bothers me that this kind of stuff happens and these lives are forgotten about
by the majority of us a yr later.

It still matters, and her name should be mentioned right along with Trayvon, Mike Brown,
Eric Garner, John Crawford III, Amadou Diallo, Sean Bell, etc.

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It just bolstered what we already knew.

Our lives amount to less than Walmart merchandise.

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Apparently nothing. All I found was a zoominfo.com page that says he got moved from security to the pharmacy counter. That's it.

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of their own choices such as this.

Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

Which is what any human does. You think about the possible ramifications of your actions. In no logical train of thought could she have predicted shoplifting from walmart would end in being chased outside and shot in the neck in front of her kids. Because at that point in time, that wasn't the way of the nation. But now we know we can't sneeze near a badge without hitting the pavement because somebody is "afraid for his life".

Which is utter bullshit. Shoplifting is not a capital offense. Not even in third world hand chop countries. So don't act like this was her fault for stealing.

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We all made some dumb decisions in our youth

The cop overreacted and should be prosecuted

But you can't participate in wrong behavior and be surprised when things take a tragic turn, all parties need to own up to their part in this tragedy.

dude

Yes, she could have made better choices.

When did that make him justified in killing her?

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From ehow.com:

The Law

For force to be considered justifiable, the threat itself must be unavoidable and immediate. For example, if a person has a knife at your throat, the use of force on your part is justified. However, justified force must stop once the threat ends. Also, the amount of force you use must be at an appropriate level under the circumstance. If you defend yourself by knocking an attacker down, you may not legally continue to harm the attacker when he is no longer putting up a fight.

So when you see somebody pay for some shit, steal some other shit and leave, where's the threat?

Louis Campbell said he felt threatened when he tried to get into the woman's car as she pulled off. His own words. He was trying to force her out. So after he wasn't run over by the car, he decides "this group of people and THEIR CHILDREN are too dangerous. I have to open fire to save the world from this shoplifter." And he killed her. So you tell me who made more bad decisions. The woman who stole some shit or the rented cop who tried to get in her car over said shit and killed her in front of her kids?

If you have any argument that she precipitated this end, you may be Simple Jack.

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>Louis Campbell said he felt threatened when he tried to get
>into the woman's car as she pulled off. His own words. He was
>trying to force her out. So after he wasn't run over by the
>car, he decides "this group of people and THEIR CHILDREN are
>too dangerous. I have to open fire to save the world from this
>shoplifter." And he killed her. So you tell me who made more
>bad decisions. The woman who stole some shit or the rented cop
>who tried to get in her car over said shit and killed her in
>front of her kids?
>

He was in between the open car door and the driver seat, and the car was put in reverse. *if that is true* that's not an imagined threat of getting run over, that is a very real possibility.

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>He was in between the open car door and the driver seat, and
>the car was put in reverse. *if that is true* that's not an
>imagined threat of getting run over, that is a very real
>possibility.

How did he come to be between her seat and the open car door?

Did she drag him out? She hit him with her purse and ran. He chased her and tried to get in her car. Use logic. He was standing in her open car door trying to get her out and she put it in reverse. Who's the idiot tryin to pull a shoplifter out of their car?

And when he was out of danger, because he was NOT run over, he fired his weapon at a car full of women and children.

Never correct.

And not over fucking walmart merchandise.

Evaluate the full picture and stop believing these police reports.

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>>He was in between the open car door and the driver seat, and
>>the car was put in reverse. *if that is true* that's not an
>>imagined threat of getting run over, that is a very real
>>possibility.
>
>How did he come to be between her seat and the open car door?
>

he is a sherriff's deputy working off duty as a security guard. As a deputy, he is able to arrest people even when off-duty, and was attempting to arrest them for shoplifting.

>Did she drag him out? She hit him with her purse and ran. He
>chased her and tried to get in her car. Use logic. He was
>standing in her open car door trying to get her out and she
>put it in reverse. Who's the idiot tryin to pull a shoplifter
>out of their car?
>

He was at the driver side door, and when she put it in reverse and tried to run him over, he fired his gun, and hit the passenger.

>And when he was out of danger, because he was NOT run over, he
>fired his weapon at a car full of women and children.

he wasn't out of danger, if the report is true. he didn't back away from the car and fire, he fired while he was in between the door and the driver, and still in danger of being run over.

I'm not saying that the police report is definitely true, because there's way too many examples of police lying, but the things that YOU are saying aren't even the things that are in the police report.

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Ok. Regardless.

She was leaving. You call it in.

End of story. You overlook the ego of the officer. There was no need to escalate it past mace or baton. She had a purse. Wheres the threat that requires a gun?

If he felt butthurt that he got hit with a purse, press charges.

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>Ok. Regardless.
>
>She was leaving. You call it in.
>

he should've called it in. he shouldn't have shot.

>End of story. You overlook the ego of the officer. There was
>no need to escalate it past mace or baton. She had a purse.
>Wheres the threat that requires a gun?
>

this is misleading. yes she had a purse. but there was also the 2000 pound vehicle that was backing up at him, with him stuck between the door, making him possibly unable to get out of the way. that is a threat beyond a purse.

>If he felt butthurt that he got hit with a purse, press
>charges.

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She hit ME with a purse.

She lifted from MY store.

And she bought some stuff.

I'm goin out there to handle this. Alone. I'm supercop Louis Campbell.

Fuck that. Fuck him. It's called law. And a police department.

Call it in. Get a warrant. Get over yourself and do the job we pay you for.

Nobody should ever die for stealing. Not even hammurabi would allow that. It's inexcusable.

He went to that car of his own volition.

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between those two things, he's obligated to attempt to arrest the shoplifters. that's not ego, that's responsibility.

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It was not incumbent upon him to chase down and subdue the shoplifter. She fled. That's a chase. Call the people with squad cars. Explain the situation.

"She stole some stuff from walmart, hit me with her purse and left."

Hold for laughter. Then go on with your day keepin walmart safe because theres a possibility a white dude may come in with a gun. Like John Gillane, 46, who shot multiple people in the store but is alive to give you his side of the story.



http://m.newstribune.com/news/2010/nov/02/gunman-saw-nv-walmart-goliath-shooting/?templates=mobile#.VIy0bqNOnJs

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their whole job is to catch bad guys and u want him to not pursue bc she's not THAT bad a guy?

that doesn't make a whole lot of sense

it makes more sense to take the shoplifting charge than to get arrested for that AND resisting arrest AND assualt...

im not saying things shouldn't be reevaluated but yea...this aint a bruce willis thing...dude was doing his job, got assaulted, found himself in danger and let off a shot...

definitely questionable...but not a case i'm ready to hold up as a reason for cop criminal behavior

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>Yes, she could have made better choices.
>
>When did that make him justified in killing her?

where did I say he was justified ( I said he should be prosecuted)

And it's probably not a good idea to get sloppy drunk, but I'm not saying that excuses rape

dude

Or not, you suggested that her minor (as in misdemeanor) crimes would somehow predictably conclude this way.

They should not. Ever.

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>Or not, you suggested that her minor (as in misdemeanor)
>crimes would somehow predictably conclude this way.
>
>They should not. Ever.
>
>

No I blame the cop, he claimed to feel threaten shot but didn't hit the driver and was ok so his claim is suspect to me

But she didn't only shop lift she also resisted arrest which lends itself to a heighten situation, of course the cop is much more to blame though.

All I'm saying is that there are consequences to actions, I wish to consequences were always proportional to the action but that's not the reality of our world so it's best to encourage people to make better decisions

dude

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