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jesustrauss
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"Bay Area police protests are going HARD (and winning?)"


  

          

There's been intense protests sparked by the non-indictments in Michael Brown and Eric Garner's cases EVERY DAY in the Bay (between SF, Oakland and Berkeley).

Between different reports, the protests are costing the city more than $100,000 daily, and that's not including any damage that's done (broken windows, protester medical bills, etc). Many hundreds have been arrested (at least 450, but probably more). Cops have shot tear gas, rubber bullets, flashbang grenades, and are bringing in cops from agencies around the region for support (Oakland cops now working 13 hour days every day, with no days off). Cops are arresting young people of color and charging them with heinous shit only to have charges not filed at arraignment (ex: 4 felonies including assault on an officer and assault w/ deadly weapon, etc). Last night, an undercover cop who was wearing a mask during the protest was outed, and pulled a gun on protesters. At least a dozen, maybe a couple dozen businesses have been mildly looted. Freeways have been stopped about a dozen times. The subway system (BART) has had multiple station closures every day. The community college cancelled classes last night... it goes on and on and...

This article basically says we're winning: http://www.contracostatimes.com/my-town/ci_27103750/protests-bring-hardship-cops-police-departments.

Meanwhile cops have been involved in the deaths of two people in Oakland in the past week.

Crazy times we live in.

Peace to Oscar Grant and his family.
to Gary King and his family.
to Raheim Brown and his family.
to Andrew Moppin and his family.
to Deedee Jones and his family.
to Alan Blueford and his family.

  

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to see the force used in LA at protests, compared to what I'm seeing in
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Agreed
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The news showed a guy in a mask breaking a window
Dec 11th 2014
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DEF not all those folks are cops...
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it's shady for a cop to go undercover to help incite a riot..
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hella true.
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Insurgents
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'We'll burn this bitch down get us pissed'
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      u ain't going to do a gotdamb thing
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           How are the protests going in TX?
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just saw something on the elevator screen
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haha
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I'm sure both these cases only reminded them of Oscar Grant
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you forgot this
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oh yeah
Dec 11th 2014
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^^^ yall should really check this out don't sleep
Dec 11th 2014
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Let's not forget Amadou Diallo
Dec 11th 2014
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Very true (link)
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Undercover officers are apparently marching w/protestors & inciting riot...
Dec 11th 2014
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so cops are basically getting major overtime pay?
Dec 11th 2014
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bentagain
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1. "to see the force used in LA at protests, compared to what I'm seeing in"
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Thu Dec-11-14 02:01 PM by bentagain

  

          

NY

is F'N frightening

100s of cops in full riot gear

actively engaging peaceful protesters

and using military tactics

w/military grade equipment/vehicles

while the media keeps labeling the protests as violent

WTF?

cops are so F'N dumb

the protests start to die down

and then they kill somebody else

protests start up again

you want the protests to stop

STOP KILLING US!

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lfresh
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Thu Dec-11-14 02:45 PM

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4. "Agreed"
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its pretty clear where the antagonism is coming from and people really arent seeing/understanding that police are under cover in the midst

its a damn set up


dammnit my paranoid is acting up again
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legsdiamond
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Thu Dec-11-14 02:09 PM

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2. "The news showed a guy in a mask breaking a window"
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first thing I said was "I bet the cops infiltrated some of these protest and are starting the rioting"

Pac was right tho...

In Cali where they riot not rally.

  

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jesustrauss
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Thu Dec-11-14 02:23 PM

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3. "DEF not all those folks are cops..."
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it may be happening, but there's a lot of righteous rage and anger being expressed, perhaps without specificity in targets, but it's sending the message that folks won't stand for it anymore. And it's not pushing people away from the protests either...

  

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legsdiamond
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8. "it's shady for a cop to go undercover to help incite a riot.. "
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jesustrauss
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9. "hella true."
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and its shady for a cop to exist. cuz Black lives matter.
so, yeah.

  

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bentagain
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Thu Dec-11-14 03:17 PM

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10. "Insurgents"
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the movement now has sites

and some 'professional' demonstrators are going to flock to these areas

I think there is some agitation coming from them

AND planted agents

I'm just waiting for protestors to be labeled 'terrorists'

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Amritsar
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6. "'We'll burn this bitch down get us pissed' "
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SeV
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14. "u ain't going to do a gotdamb thing"
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but im banned tho.
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Amritsar
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20. "How are the protests going in TX?"
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Is the klan marching with u guys down there?

  

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lfresh
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5. "just saw something on the elevator screen"
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Thu Dec-11-14 02:47 PM by lfresh

  

          

meant to go look
something about its not the 60s anymore and protests in berkley
something or nother


let me see if i can find it

found it
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/10/us/berkeley-protests.html?_r=0

lemme read now
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jesustrauss
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Thu Dec-11-14 02:58 PM

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7. "haha"
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the lady on the right side of that top pic is the mother of my first gf... a dozen years ago or something.

  

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vee-lover
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11. "I'm sure both these cases only reminded them of Oscar Grant"
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grassrootsphilosopher

  

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12. "you forgot this"
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https://againsthiredguns.wordpress.com/

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fairweather

  

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jesustrauss
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16. "oh yeah"
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click that link for more background history of these kinds of struggles in response to killings by police and some strategy (that I and others worked on).

There's also this transcript of testimony from family members of folks who've been killed by cops (and more): The transcript was submitted to the UN's committee on racism as well as the Oakland City Council (neither did anything with it, but it's important documentation).
--> Here is the link to the transcript (which I'd recommend reading through the index and only reading the parts your interested in, particularly Cathy King's voice): http://peopleshearing.wordpress.com/2013/01/22/full-transcription/
--> Here is the link to the video from that event. http://peopleshearing.wordpress.com/2011/02/25/video/

  

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dba_BAD
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17. "^^^ yall should really check this out don't sleep"
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n/m

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Atillah Moor
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13. "Let's not forget Amadou Diallo"
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Thu Dec-11-14 04:59 PM by Atillah Moor

  

          

If shit is true about a masked undercover cop being in the crowd then that's way messed up and it's a shame he wasn't rended right there in the spot.

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Everything looks like Oprah kissing Harvey Weinstein these days

  

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jesustrauss
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15. "Very true (link)"
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and yeah. Peace to Amadou Diallo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlRKwJdvdO4

Here's the link to the article about the undercover. With gun drawn sideways cuz he thinks he's in a fucking movie: http://m.eastbayexpress.com/SevenDays/archives/2014/12/11/undercover-cop-apparently-from-the-chp-points-gun-at-journalists-and-protesters-in-oakland

  

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PimpTrickGangstaClik
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18. "Undercover officers are apparently marching w/protestors & inciting riot..."
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http://www.ktvu.com/story/27606016/undercover-cop-pulls-gun-on-demonstrators

https://storify.com/CourtneyPFB/undercover-cops-outed-and-pull-gun-on-crowd

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AZ
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19. "so cops are basically getting major overtime pay? "
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seems police should be all for this kind of thing

  

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