I've been thinking abt this for the last several weeks in light of the recent shootings/killing of blk youth/men at the hands of the police

I've heard a lot of ppl say that we need more blk police on the force for the purposes of better interactions w/(poor) urban communities they patrol

Historically, blk ppl have been distrustful of police for the most part and we've directly or indirectly taught our kids to be distrustful of police as well

HipHop music which is the voice of the youth has always had this "us-against-them" approach when it comes to the police and many young ppl do take their cues from HipHop

Most ppl I know have never encouraged their kids to be policemen

Situations like Ferguson highlight the racial disparities throughout most police departments but I also don't believe that having more blk cops would necessarily change the relationship w/the police and the ppl they're supposed to "protect and serve"

From my own experiences, blk cops have tended to be harder on their own than white cops

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Policing is as we know it inherently problematic.
Putting black people in a position that functions the way it does isn't going to change the system.

What we need is black people (who are on our side) in command and setting the agenda.

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>Policing is as we know it inherently problematic.
>Putting black people in a position that functions the way it
>does isn't going to change the system.

This is a very good point because I'm not sure if a lot ppl understand there needs to be an institutional change first moreso than a personnel change
>
>What we need is black people (who are on our side) in command
>and setting the agenda.

Yes, that's true but you can't serve two masters

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and be something black kids can aspire to. that would require them to earn the respect of their community, just like all cops should.

i don't want to say that black kids should be encouraged to go into law enforcement, but i don't think they should be discouraged either.

abiding by the institutional demands of the job which is to enforce (I believe) a lot of heavy-handed policing tactics that we're seeing take place around the country


>and be something black kids can aspire to. that would require
>them to earn the respect of their community, just like all
>cops should.
>
>i don't want to say that black kids should be encouraged to go
>into law enforcement, but i don't think they should be
>discouraged either.

I agree with this

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Who know everybody aunt and uncle. Recognize who's the one with mental problems, and knows who's responsible for em. Knows where people work. Can call up a kids parent. Might even get invited to dinner every now and then.

Only way that'll happen is if we're raising community aware kids, and community aware kids would recognize the police as part of the community. Right now the police are coming in to police the community rather than be a part of it.

It's an ingrained process at this point and I"m not sure anything can counter it with out perhaps legislation requiring a percentage of the force comes from the community, forced community service for officers sans weapons, and perhaps some other things. But the police as it is right now, you send your child there and they will be indoctrinated into the culture, or get forced out.

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"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

>Who know everybody aunt and uncle. Recognize who's the one
>with mental problems, and knows who's responsible for em.
>Knows where people work. Can call up a kids parent. Might
>even get invited to dinner every now and then.

That's true but this might be a by-gone era when it comes to police/community
>
>Only way that'll happen is if we're raising community aware
>kids, and community aware kids would recognize the police as
>part of the community. Right now the police are coming in to
>police the community rather than be a part of it.

^^^very very true
>
>It's an ingrained process at this point and I"m not sure
>anything can counter it with out perhaps legislation requiring
>a percentage of the force comes from the community, forced
>community service for officers sans weapons, and perhaps some
>other things. But the police as it is right now, you send
>your child there and they will be indoctrinated into the
>culture, or get forced out.

This is where I'm at for the most part
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>"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

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And cannot be bought off with tidbits. the camera shit was a cookie. We can't just eat that shit up and act like it's going to solve the problems. There needs a publicly backed push to effectively change the culture of police so that they can be reintigrated into or communities. You go to small rural towns and that's exactly what's happening. Proof positive it works. You see those cops talking down white folk with guns it's because old if not they unle is someone just like em and they wouldn't just shoot they uncle. It works. And if there were a strong push for it, there literally is no grounds to pushback. It's a five year process at least to imlement, but it can happen and IMO would work.


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It would be an absolute waste of time without the aforementioned measures in place. Better to teach your kids to police themselves and avoid the cops at all costs. Easier plan of action.

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but with the way the system is set up the police force hires people based on certain attributes
like blind loyalty
so for the most part even the 'nicest' never laid an excessive hand on anybody black police officer can't (or won't) really do much for the relationship between the black community and law enforcement.

in nyc we have (had? they've been terribly silent as of late) 100 blacks in law enforcement who care

i always wondered why they stopped their number at 100 when i know its more than 100 black cops in nyc.

but that gives us a clue into the type of difference black cops really make. not much.

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In certain areas of NJ for example-- if you aren't Italian you aren't a police officer. The wholes system is beyond corrupt.

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officers at patrol level can cause no change in a machine that protects itself from real oversight.


what is the benefit for that officer, the department, or civilians besides photo ops


black folks higher up in the food chain may help, but why hasnt it already

join the force around age 22 & be retired by the time you 47. you're still of working age so you go get a job in your field where you'll command top dollar so you got that PLUS your pension.

and during your 25 year career in law enforcement, you make a difference. do your job well & help get rid of those you see that don't.

i'm a fan...


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Sort of like blk politicians who naively believe they can change political process from within only to find that after awhile they too have been corrupted by the system over time

I think the change in this particular situation has to come from top down to make a real difference


>join the force around age 22 & be retired by the time you 47.
>you're still of working age so you go get a job in your field
>where you'll command top dollar so you got that PLUS your
>pension.
>
>and during your 25 year career in law enforcement, you make a
>difference. do your job well & help get rid of those you see
>that don't.
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>i'm a fan...
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any person black or otherwise that goes into policing comes out corrupt. Period.

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but i also recognize that that's not the end-all, be-all

Atlanta has one of the smallest racial gaps in the country wrt to black population vs. the racial composition of the police force

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/09/03/us/the-race-gap-in-americas-police-departments.html?_r=0

yet...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathryn_Johnston_shooting

the blue line is a powerful force that's ultra resistant to cooptation. demographics won't change anything if LE agencies continue to operate in silos far removed from the civic process.

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>but i also recognize that that's not the end-all, be-all
>
>Atlanta has one of the smallest racial gaps in the country wrt
>to black population vs. the racial composition of the police
>force
>
>http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/09/03/us/the-race-gap-in-americas-police-departments.html?_r=0
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>yet...
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathryn_Johnston_shooting
>
>the blue line is a powerful force that's ultra resistant to
>cooptation. demographics won't change anything if LE agencies
>continue to operate in silos far removed from the civic
>process.

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I was going to be one, until I injured my leg a month before I graduated the Academy. Had a buch of folk telling me no, but I felt like I could do some good, not just work a job. I ended up joining the Army 3 months later.

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uncommon for kids who excel academically - I seriously doubt most parents would encourage their kid(s) to be cops if they had better career options

The profession has typically attracted those who are less educated

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we're incapable of changing/solving from within

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review boards or federal involvement. The way things are now with a cop in trouble being investigated by his own department is a joke.

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>The way things are now
>with a cop in trouble being investigated by his own department
>is a joke.

Very much so - I'm always amazed at the number of ppl who really think some sort of justice is going to come abt from those internal police investigations

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There needs to be a massive shift in culture and policy, because that thin blue line cuts both ways. I’m sure there are some good people that are trapped and hindered by it, as I imagine relation to be the rule and not the exception. At that point, it’s dog eat dog, kill or be killed, either get with the program or become a pariah.

I can’t think of a single reason to encourage any good person to join, because this notion of “change from within” is fucking preposterous unless it occurs within the established order from the top down. Heads need to roll. Until these animals start getting indictments and convictions for their many misdeeds and greater overall accountability is established, it’s the second to last place I’d encourage my child- or any child, friend, what have you- to turn to for employment. The first being the military, but that’s another discussion.

On the surface, there’s a noble idealism attached to becoming a police officer, but it’s the byproduct of propaganda at this point because “to protect and serve” is not an apt description. I’m not sure it ever was.

racist, murderous psychopaths.

Most of the them are just regular people trying to do a VERY difficult job and go home to their families at night.

It's like any other profession. You got some people that excel at their job, some that are average and some that suck.

Unfortunately when sucky cops are put in bad situations people can die unnecessarily.

I think a key the thing that needs to happen is a more aggressive weeding out process to get rid of the shitty cops and have measures to insure that they can't be cops anywhere and not just go to the next town.

The other side of that is aggressively recruiting quality individuals to take their place.

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whether shooting someone or bringing in traffic tickets for revenue, there's always the threat of violence from their direction.


Not every cop is a psychopath, but how many of these good cops stand for whats right in court, or against their buddies?


sometimes what you dont do makes you a coward, and there are plenty of those on the force that have never pulled a gun or physically harmed someone.

like I said above its a VERY tough job. The truth is being a cop is not that dissimilar from the streets in that it's a bad look to be known as a "snitch". As a cop you are putting yourself at odds with people you now have to go out and work with on the street and trust them to have your back. Also usually cops that are whistleblowers usually get shit on by their superiors administratively and eventually fired now they're out a career with no way to support their family and the police department continues on business as usual. A cop that gets fired for something illegal can usually get a job in a another dept the next day but a cop that gets fired for snitch on other cops is done in law enforcement forever.

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>A cop
>that gets fired for something illegal can usually get a job in
>a another dept the next day but a cop that gets fired for
>snitch on other cops is done in law enforcement forever.

FBI, CIA, Secret Service, and a few other agencies might be interested in you.

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>FBI, CIA, Secret Service, and a few other agencies might be
>interested in you.

All those organizations are 10 times dirtier than any municipal police force, they wouldn't touch a snitch with a 10-foot pole

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nobody better to take a job like that than someone already accustomed blowing the whistle.

Besides, having talked at length with three letter agency cats during the course of my former positions I get the impression that neither the FBI nor the CIA have much love for local cops. They're pretty much viewed as thoroughly inept and only good for directing traffic away from one of their ops.

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>Besides, having talked at length with three letter agency cats
>during the course of my former positions I get the impression
>that neither the FBI nor the CIA have much love for local
>cops. They're pretty much viewed as thoroughly inept and only
>good for directing traffic away from one of their ops.
>

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The fact that cops are intimidated into turning a blind eye is disgusting. I think it proves that the head officers-- the chiefs and the captains are the worst of the bunch because they don't set the example of what it means to stand up for what's right and probably never have. To be honest I feel like most are probably on the take or otherwise profiting from confiscated goods or what have you.

For example-- how come police never bust the people supplying illegal weapons? They're more than happy to kill and or put a guy away who's in possession of an illegal firearm, but they rarely follow the chain to the providers. Why? Why don't they actually try to cap off the flow of these things-- wouldn't that make their jobs a little safer? The history of the organization proves it was corrupt and immoral from the start. There can be no change.

The job is tough, but so what. Don't sign up if you can't hang or are afraid to loose your life.

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You'd hope a black officer would be more sensitive to black folks but I think the conditions under which the police do their job eventually corrupts alot of them.

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that's working out real well and has since plantation times...

in other words, Black cops.

Black cops kicked my ass. One incident left my jaw swollen for a week.
Black cops have held me at gunpoint for traffic stops
Black cops have threatened me with bodily harm
Black cops were the cats that left marks on my wrists by overtightening the cuffs for a traffic stop.
Black cop held a shotgun to my head and threatened to blow my shit off if I moved while his white partner searched my boy ("but don't let it be a black and a white one...")

Black cops have done more fucked up shit to me than any other.

We SHOULD encourage our kids to become cops because they SHOULD be better at policing our neighborhoods than white cops. However, when this happens, they usually turn out to be as abusive if not far more abusive than their white counterparts.
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collective treat our children better?

no.

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That means getting the right racial balance, the right socio-economic balance, even the right personality, understanding of and attitude toward various types of crime appropriate for any given district.

The dehumanisation of street Police, no matter where they're from, into military style drones fighting "wars" on the front lines and allowed little room for nuance and subtlety only alienates the people in the long run, inevitably descending into "them and us" on both sides of the fence.

Cops get jaded and frustrated that no matter how many state-imposed beatdowns they hand out, no matter how many vans they fill with 'youths', no matter how many they leave in pools of blood and brain there is always an endless queue of the same "problems" in front of them... the people get jaded and frustrated that even though the local cops were educated at the local school their understanding and connection with the people pale in comparison to teachers and social workers to such an extent that they spend their days pushing at-risk kids further and further towards the "wrong side" of a "war" that's been invented for them.

The entire enterprise needs to be rebuilt from the ground up, globally with "Protect and Serve" truly at its core.

tl;dr Yes, but alone it would be nothing more than a sticking plaster.

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>From my own experiences, blk cops have tended to be harder on
>their own than white cops



I think any member of a community should have an opportunity to represent in many facets of everyday life.

the challenge is your above quote. Officers of color tend to be harder based on my own experience as well.
-they have something to prove to themselves
-Something to prove to their Anglo counterparts

This tend to be a very dangerous mix.


But I think we should provide this option to youth of color for many reasons.

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You cant go into an old established institution like a Police Department and effect change as much as you'd like.

In theory its great to have people from the community come in and serve. I was thinking about all the educators I know - who in theory would make good community policemen/women.

The problem is once they're in this current system of police unions and old school establishment - its hard not to get sucked in at some point. Im not saying there arent good officers that try and do good work - but when youre a part of a fucked up racist system thats long established that's bigger than you--at some point(s) in your career you become a part of that system.

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>You cant go into an old established institution like a Police
>Department and effect change as much as you'd like.
>
>In theory its great to have people from the community come in
>and serve. I was thinking about all the educators I know - who
>in theory would make good community policemen/women.
>
>The problem is once they're in this current system of police
>unions and old school establishment - its hard not to get
>sucked in at some point. Im not saying there arent good
>officers that try and do good work - but when youre a part of
>a fucked up racist system thats long established that's bigger
>than you--at some point(s) in your career you become a part of
>that system.

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Honestly, as it stands, we should steer our children AWAY from LE for their sake.

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many of us sometimes feel that's the only option after high school. no matter how well intentioned you are, you may get pulled into some war overseas. and now you may be at war with US citizens.

everybody's circumstances are different, but when folks ask me about them joining, I typically say nah.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

I think I know where you are going with this.


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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

However, I gotta worry about me and mine 1st. I believe Black folk are done more harm participating in the system at this level than the good they do being SEEN by us in those roles.

Is that where you thought I was going ?

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>However, I gotta worry about me and mine 1st.

Because I worry about me and mind with two boys in the city, I want more community based black cops. I think my children odds fair better with them.

I believe Black
>folk are done more harm participating in the system at this
>level than the good they do being SEEN by us in those roles.

I do think black cops make a difference. Shoot I have a black lady cop who I KNOW save my butt from getting arrested.

>Is that where you thought I was going ?

I think its a short jump from no black cops to no cops at all.

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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

all the systematic issues and eradicate racism in policing?

No, not at all.

Do I think there are benefits to having a police force that actually looks like and comes from the community it serves? Yeah probably.
But a lot of those benefits aren't going to be things the greater public will actually hear about.

It depends on WHICH Black people (and overall) are getting into Policing.

Historically more conservative/power hungry types are more likely to get into law enforcement than others.

The idea that the Police should only be compromised of White and non Black people doesn't seem like it would give a better result.

I don't even have kids so what do I know?

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We need Blacks in law enforcement just as we need Black scientist, lawyers, doctors, journalists, creatives, engineers, car makers, astrophysicist, teachers, politicians, judges, store owners, managers, farmers, entertainers, military, mechanics, techies, fashion models, athletes, gas station owners etc etc etc.

And dare I say reviving a Black mafia wouldn’t be bad either.

>We need Blacks in law enforcement just as we need Black
>scientist, lawyers, doctors, journalists, creatives,
>engineers, car makers, astrophysicist, teachers, politicians,
>judges, store owners, managers, farmers, entertainers,
>military, mechanics, techies, fashion models, athletes, gas
>station owners etc etc etc.
>
>And dare I say reviving a Black mafia wouldn’t be bad
>either.

Personally I don't think paranoia & distrust regarding law enforcement has served us very well. The same folks complaining aren't actively involved in protecting their community, so I just tune them out.

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Indeed it is.

I think some of us are so jaded against law enforcement that we forget the reaches of systemic racism in EVERY US based business and institution.

Also it sounds very bandwagonish like when some of us were declaring ‘its better to rent than own, cause you never really own your home’. Just nonsense.

Clarence and Tim Scott and them..

but we have to keep raising the numbers

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

Black Cop could treat you worst than some white cops. But in my life experiences (and probably stats if available), your chances are better with a black cop.


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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

>And dare I say reviving a Black mafia wouldn’t be bad
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Nah that's bad

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Or perhaps I’m thinking more of a strong arm to make outsiders think twice, network to “encourage” politics in our favor, and double as militia.

We all need a strong arm. Getting by on intelligence and expecting the same of all is a fallacy. Would rather it be organized than these splinter groups with no direction, no pull, no clout, and just havoc.

I see your point.

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you may be able to "help" them in some way. IYKYK
So although you cannot implement much change in how things operate, your immediate family stands to benefit.

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I don't know what the solution is and am not really in a position to take a stand on the OP's question but this is something I've long been saying to white ppl in my orbit who sympathize with police or who are outright republican idiots/racist assholes. You know the type, "just follow the law" and all that thinly-veiled, racially-coded bullshit. It's easy for us to say; even when we *don't* follow the law, we have people in positions to get us out of it. Etc.

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and they would prolly pull me over if they saw my Black ass driving through town

One of them pulled a friend over and it started some beef between my friend and my cousin.

They are half white and identify as white. Somehow she sucked more melanin out of each one to the point he joked the last one was adopted.

so while its nice to have family in law enforcement if they identify as Black.. it aint much help if they mixed and identify as white and fuck with Black people just like the rest of them.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

But to my point above, he also got me out of multiple speeding tickets when I was in HS/college, as well as a potential drunk driving situation when I was 19. White priv.

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How did their Black half not bother to instill Black love? Guess its hard to do when as a black person you really dont care for Black people.

always on house arrest and then one day he got a job working for the borough and next thing you know he is a constable serving warrants to people.

so his kids grew up around law enforcement.

He had a keg at his son’s graduation party.. AT THE POLICE/FIRESTATION.

but yeah, his kids all identify as white and his grandson looks so white if he went out of town with him he might get reported for kidnapping.

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And brought to life through his offspring and grandlings.

Whole lot of jobs in law enforcement aside from beat cops.

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There’s so many areas of law enforcement that we are consistently needed in.

>Whole lot of jobs in law enforcement aside from beat cops.

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one person at a time even if you're up against a grand system

practice prejudice. If I profile people as a Black civilian who wants to keep my family safe, cops are doing worse because they are basing decisions of off crime statistics. There is no doubt that can make the job more uncomfortable for Black people.

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Good/Bad, we will never be 100% in anything. Also there’s no race that is 100% on board with everything concerning their culture or race. This is why various forms of govt systems exist.

We need to be in every facet of the rotten govt were in.

Good/Bad, we will never be 100% in anything. Also there’s no race that is 100% on board with everything concerning their culture or race. This is why various forms of govt systems exist.

We need to be in every facet of the rotten govt were in.

take that fwiw

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To purposely exclude ourselves from any occupation that governs us is suicide. If you consider the make-up of Blacks who are police officers there’s a range. Yeah there’s the nerds turned bullies, the generational cops, the ex-gangbanger turned cop, the when ‘I grow up’ cop, the I need to a survive for the next 30yrs til retirement cop, the stepping stone to detective or lawyer cop and the to better my life&community cop. All are capable of dirt but not all are capable of corruption, murder etc and not all roll 100% or even 60 with the system.

In order to prevent Black children from becoming future corrupt cops we’ll have to develop them with a pride and love for themselves and their people so when they are faced with the issues of other dirty cops they can nip and chip away at that system from the inside vs going along w/the bs.

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

I'm currently reading a book titled An Inconvenient Cop. It's written by an Haitian-American named Edwin Raymond and delves into the problems he faced becoming a police officer in the NYPD. It came out in 2023, so it's somewhat recent.

I just started the book and if folks are interested, I'll report back on his conclusions as it pertains to this thread.

To answer the original post, I personally have no interest in becoming a police officer for a variety of reasons, but in theory, I'd prefer to see black and brown faces serve as police officers, fire fighters, etc, etc as I think folks should serve and represent the neighborhoods they reside in. I imagine that's an opinion that's already been shared in this thread.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

It would seem the majority of share the sentiment of seeing Black cops, esp in our neighborhoods over non-Black.