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"FERGUSON GRAND JURY ANNOUNCEMENT POST"


          

NPR says they're prepping a news conference right now.

  

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I have zero faith in the process or institutions. PROVE ME WRONG, GUYS.
Nov 21st 2014
1
*Grabs a cup of coffee* How you been man?
Nov 21st 2014
2
Man this ain't the place
Nov 21st 2014
13
      FB
Nov 21st 2014
21
You all know how this is gonna go down.
Nov 21st 2014
3
so what do we do after?
Nov 21st 2014
4
      This has been my question form the jump
Nov 21st 2014
6
      Theres organizations in your town that are protesting.
Nov 21st 2014
7
           not in my area bruh
Nov 21st 2014
8
           Yeah stopping traffic and getting arrested for nothing. Nah.
Nov 21st 2014
10
                how is that nothing?
Nov 21st 2014
16
                     I'm looking for something more substantive to help changes laws
Nov 21st 2014
22
                          the first response will be protest
Nov 21st 2014
25
                               I hear you. But that's not my thing.
Nov 21st 2014
27
                                    yep. the protests need to be targeted to where change actually happens.
Nov 21st 2014
40
                                         a protest rally in front of a public building
Nov 22nd 2014
49
      RE: so what do we do after?
Nov 24th 2014
73
no charges. people march on the sidewalk in orderly rows
Nov 21st 2014
5
don't forget the wonton destruction
Nov 21st 2014
9
smh...
Nov 21st 2014
11
Them Chinese spots getting fucked up first.
Nov 21st 2014
12
*Cuba Gooding air punches*
Nov 21st 2014
15
      LMFAO! damn, this aint even appropriate but lulz.
Nov 21st 2014
35
thanks. Glad you got my point tho...
Nov 21st 2014
29
If they destroy all the wontons, the Chinese restaurants will be pissed!...
Nov 21st 2014
19
RE: don't forget the wonton destruction
Nov 21st 2014
20
can you motherfuckers just let shit happen first?
Nov 21st 2014
14
      i would urge you to take my dick out your mouth but its so warm.
Nov 21st 2014
17
           oh hell! niggas back. nm
Nov 21st 2014
18
                lol
Nov 21st 2014
23
and so it begins
Nov 21st 2014
24
FBI Sends 100 Agents to Ferguson Ahead of Grand Jury Decision
Nov 21st 2014
26
There wont be any/much destruction either way.
Nov 21st 2014
28
not even WONTON
Nov 21st 2014
30
      Nope. No Egg Foo Young, either.
Nov 21st 2014
31
           I'm a pack my egg rolls up and bounce Gee...
Nov 21st 2014
32
urrbody chill.
Nov 21st 2014
33
I'm guessing they announce it during or near Thanksgiving proper
Nov 21st 2014
34
This Ferguson case alone has shown me how f - ed up black people are tre...
Nov 21st 2014
36
did you just start watching the news?
Nov 21st 2014
37
Did you half way read my post?
Nov 21st 2014
42
      that wasnt snark, police been killing us for years... why is this case t...
Nov 22nd 2014
50
           this case isn't the final straw
Nov 22nd 2014
52
...and LA, Philly, Florida, NY and everywhere else. We're all linked.
Nov 21st 2014
38
That shit would not happen in my part of va dog.
Nov 21st 2014
43
      lol, how so?
Nov 21st 2014
45
      I doubt it would. But that is my opinion.
Nov 21st 2014
46
           In your opinion, why couldn't that happen in your part of VA?
Nov 21st 2014
48
      it happened in Oakland, NYC, Miami, Charlotte, LA, etc... VA aint specia...
Nov 22nd 2014
51
      you aren't special, or funny
Nov 22nd 2014
53
           I'm not trying to be funny. I lived in VA for 6 years, it can happen any...
Nov 22nd 2014
54
                I don't blame Ferguson for anything
Nov 22nd 2014
56
      I moved to Teaneck NJ in 89
Nov 24th 2014
63
           it can happen anywhere.
Nov 24th 2014
69
I bet their solidarity is through the roof
Nov 21st 2014
39
http://youtu.be/yp5sAQSYyYs
Nov 21st 2014
41
true.
Nov 21st 2014
44
A lot of people are noticing it now
Nov 21st 2014
47
America and the KKK are one and the same.
Nov 22nd 2014
55
Open your eyes to the world around you
Nov 25th 2014
156
BREAKING NEWS: ANNOUNCEMENT LATER TODAY per CNN
Nov 24th 2014
57
!!!
Nov 24th 2014
59
or is more like:
Nov 24th 2014
60
Presumably after school let's out.
Nov 24th 2014
62
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3Hxqx4okFE <==placeholder nm
Nov 24th 2014
58
not quite.
Nov 24th 2014
61
The boys are excited and cleaning their guns as we speak.
Nov 24th 2014
64
At first I was sure there wasn't gonna be an indictment, now Im not so -
Nov 24th 2014
65
I see involuntary manslaughter
Nov 24th 2014
66
indictment to satisfy the people but exonerated at trial bc c'mon.
Nov 24th 2014
67
^^^Yep, just like Trayvon
Nov 24th 2014
68
he wont be charged
Nov 24th 2014
71
Probably
Nov 24th 2014
72
RE: indictment to satisfy the people but exonerated at trial bc c'mon.
Nov 24th 2014
74
announcement will come at 8 PM ET
Nov 24th 2014
70
Wow. Wilson got married while being investigated and actions protested
Nov 24th 2014
75
Just save Lam's Garden Chop Suey on Olive in U City. And that Imo's too.
Nov 24th 2014
76
^ LOL'ed at this so hard. forgive me, lord.
Nov 24th 2014
78
      no St Paul, no peace!
Nov 24th 2014
79
6:43 EST - CNN News Conference
Nov 24th 2014
77
I don't like how this is being hyped up....
Nov 24th 2014
80
they want a riot bc of the pretty pictures.
Nov 24th 2014
81
basically.
Nov 24th 2014
86
yep, thats exactly how it feels. Like their on some Don King shit.
Nov 24th 2014
93
RE: I don't like how this is being hyped up....
Nov 24th 2014
82
i hope people cause gatdamn havoc in the streets personally
Nov 24th 2014
84
      And that's where I'm a little unsure.....
Nov 24th 2014
85
      basically you want everyone BUT the guilty party to pay
Nov 24th 2014
92
I'll be sleep by 8:00. I just need to know if I am expected to be at wor...
Nov 24th 2014
83
This some BS! Ferguson is a trash hole.
Nov 24th 2014
87
The heell are they waiting on? Did they have the press conf
Nov 24th 2014
88
heavy police presence in ferguson to ensure residents adequately provoke...
Nov 24th 2014
89
Lol
Nov 24th 2014
98
It's looking like no indictment is coming
Nov 24th 2014
90
No good reason to wait this long to make an announcement.
Nov 24th 2014
91
who has it live?
Nov 24th 2014
94
didn't they say 5 minutes to go 15 minutes ago?
Nov 24th 2014
95
they should kill every CNN reporter once they make the announcement
Nov 24th 2014
96
wtf?
Nov 24th 2014
100
      their coverage is solely based on their hope that there is chaos
Nov 24th 2014
101
HERE IT COMES
Nov 24th 2014
97
Here We Go!
Nov 24th 2014
99
This is like OJ 2.0...
Nov 24th 2014
102
Listening now.....sittin here prayin for this situation
Nov 24th 2014
103
i like how NBC is just rolling w/ the voice
Nov 24th 2014
104
not here in stl! news been broadcasting none stop since at least 4pm
Nov 24th 2014
111
      i wish fox here just went with it. i was watching sleepy hollow
Nov 24th 2014
112
No indictment in Ferguson case (USAToday)
Nov 24th 2014
105
he's explaining why they're not going to indict right now
Nov 24th 2014
106
We all know how this story ends ppl
Nov 24th 2014
107
Yeah this is going to be no billed. He's trying to soften the blow
Nov 24th 2014
108
damn shame.
Nov 24th 2014
109
So the prosecuter is going to discredit all witnesses via the media
Nov 24th 2014
110
basically. with no rebuttal.
Nov 24th 2014
114
This so sad. This man is creating a narrative for justification.
Nov 24th 2014
115
      Motherfucker.
Nov 24th 2014
120
he's also tainting the federal juries.
Nov 24th 2014
138
no charges
Nov 24th 2014
113
this dude likes to hear himself talk
Nov 24th 2014
116
I'm up in STL right now, visiting in-laws.
Nov 24th 2014
117
All this investigating and there is no real consistency ?
Nov 24th 2014
118
damn.
Nov 24th 2014
119
This punk mutherfucker just said Black men ARE NOT being killed
Nov 24th 2014
121
S/o to these British reporters?
Nov 24th 2014
122
yooo...thats what i was thinking
Nov 24th 2014
123
from a legal standpoint, the problem i have with all this
Nov 24th 2014
124
my, goodness you articulated this so much better...
Nov 24th 2014
126
^^^^^
Nov 24th 2014
129
Yeah. From what I understand, grand juries are a slam dunk for indictmen...
Nov 24th 2014
135
      check the indictment rate for police officers
Nov 24th 2014
142
      It’s Incredibly Rare For A Grand Jury To Do What Ferguson’s Just Did
Nov 24th 2014
149
what was the vote breakdown?
Nov 24th 2014
125
he said they cant let that out.
Nov 24th 2014
128
He said he didn't know and wasn't allowed to know.
Nov 24th 2014
131
and as the President speaks...
Nov 24th 2014
127
MAN!
Nov 24th 2014
132
      It looks like EVERY school in North County is closed tomorrow
Nov 24th 2014
133
They are gassing the hell of those people.
Nov 24th 2014
130
CNN itching for some drama in the streets
Nov 24th 2014
134
Gotta Here Both Sides
Nov 24th 2014
136
i think i saw Don Lemon throw a trash can through a store window.
Nov 24th 2014
139
McCullough gave a wonderful closing argument for the defense.
Nov 24th 2014
137
thanks. b/c i keep hearing the ol 'you can indict a ham sandwich"
Nov 24th 2014
147
Darren Wilson's 'wounds' are pathetic
Nov 24th 2014
140
Is that his fractured orbital bone we heard so much about?
Nov 24th 2014
144
      Motherfucker just popped an ingrown pimple
Nov 25th 2014
172
Don Le'mon: "Obviously, there's a smell of marijuana in the air"
Nov 24th 2014
141
protestor shaming ...
Nov 24th 2014
143
probably the only thing keeping the peace
Nov 25th 2014
157
I 44 in St. Louis being blocked by a hundred or so protestors
Nov 24th 2014
145
white people never got over OJ yo
Nov 24th 2014
146
Coon Train comin! Steve Brown!
Nov 24th 2014
148
Powerful Ferguson protest song just dropped
Nov 24th 2014
150
RE: Powerful Ferguson protest song just dropped
Nov 25th 2014
152
i wanna see some actual lawyer(s) prosecute Wilson using
Nov 25th 2014
151
right? WTF at having the grand jury be the trial...
Nov 25th 2014
178
      the prosecutors put on a trial w/no judge & no adversary.
Nov 25th 2014
190
Bin, they burning shit down, you happy? Are you burning shit down in...
Nov 25th 2014
153
okay! fuckers who dont even live here talking about 'burn it down'
Nov 25th 2014
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Right? Those niggas sound ignorant and stupid as hell.
Nov 25th 2014
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2 police cars, dude? no im not happy.
Nov 25th 2014
171
So are you burning up YOUR neighborhood?
Nov 25th 2014
191
He is burning some ribs as we speak
Nov 25th 2014
233
      LMAO
Dec 07th 2014
290
St. Louis County Police Scanner stream
Nov 25th 2014
154
CNN reporter gets clocked by a rock (vine)
Nov 25th 2014
155
lol.
Nov 25th 2014
160
Fuck CNN (c) - protester
Nov 25th 2014
167
This gravity of this situation has not set in yet...
Nov 25th 2014
158
where is dorian johnson?-
Nov 25th 2014
159
This is all so frustrating and I'm so torn...
Nov 25th 2014
163
I'm with you to an extent...
Nov 25th 2014
164
yeah
Nov 25th 2014
166
What a stupid thing to say. They'd be shot before the Bic was flicked.
Nov 25th 2014
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      fools watch too many movies
Nov 25th 2014
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      It's called being willing to die for the cause.
Nov 25th 2014
222
           Well you go right ahead and get started, I'll be right behind you buddy.
Nov 25th 2014
229
                Nope, because I don't condone these so called frustrated niggas....
Nov 25th 2014
248
                     i couldn't have said it better.
Nov 25th 2014
249
who pays for the police cars? The taxpayers, smh, the police don't...
Nov 25th 2014
168
they're literally burning Ferguson/Florissant to the ground....
Nov 25th 2014
169
the burning will only vent ppl's frustration.
Nov 25th 2014
174
There's nothing to be torn about. It was bitch made.
Nov 25th 2014
179
      they were @ the FPD last night. It was heavily protected and didn't burn...
Nov 25th 2014
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           it doesn't matter if some were or if it was one of several stops. Either
Nov 25th 2014
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Bob McCullough gotta go.
Nov 25th 2014
165
how many of those "protesters" do you think voted?
Nov 25th 2014
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      no idea. This dude just needs to be gone.
Nov 25th 2014
240
      I don't think anyone ran against him
Nov 25th 2014
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           nope
Nov 25th 2014
275
knowing it would happen didn't help
Nov 25th 2014
170
Keep denying everything I say about America's relationship to Black folk
Nov 25th 2014
173
so, you're suggesting an all-out race war?
Nov 25th 2014
184
      Come again?
Nov 25th 2014
265
..and this is why God created 42 US Code Section 1983.
Nov 25th 2014
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lets hope theyre successful
Nov 25th 2014
177
      similar situation to OJ
Nov 25th 2014
227
Reading the testimony and seeing the evidence...what I don't understand
Nov 25th 2014
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it is not clear that Wilson reasonably feared for his life
Nov 25th 2014
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      And that's what I don't get, especially since Wilson admits to
Nov 25th 2014
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      RE: And that's what I don't get, especially since Wilson admits to
Nov 25th 2014
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      right - an indictment is a very low bar: probable cause
Nov 25th 2014
187
      exactly.
Nov 25th 2014
189
      an indictment for a police officer is completely different from regular....
Nov 25th 2014
194
      I thought police have the right to shoot until the threat is down.
Nov 25th 2014
195
      it doesn't have to be clear to you, as long as he *thought* his life was...
Nov 25th 2014
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           why is this defense not acceptable for Brown then?
Nov 25th 2014
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                it isn't okay if the opponent is a police officer.
Nov 25th 2014
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                that's wholly contingent upon legal interpretation
Nov 25th 2014
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                     Not necessarily.
Nov 25th 2014
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                     yea that was persuasive.
Nov 25th 2014
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                          Sorry, let me be clear in saying I don't care if you agree.
Nov 25th 2014
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                               thanks for your expert legal opinion.
Nov 25th 2014
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                     fleeing felon rule could also apply
Nov 25th 2014
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                          true, but Wilson claims that what while he had knowledge
Nov 25th 2014
210
                               the felony part would come in at the assault
Nov 25th 2014
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                                    Wilson's interview the day after is laughable
Nov 25th 2014
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                                         it really is, also the part Brown punching him with his right hand while...
Nov 25th 2014
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                                              not to mention
Nov 25th 2014
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                because he's not a police officer, not saying its right, that's the way....
Nov 25th 2014
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                no, that's the way the laws are misinterpreted.
Nov 25th 2014
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                     RE: no, that's the way the laws are misinterpreted.
Nov 25th 2014
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                          thanks - but the Constitution is a better source.
Nov 25th 2014
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                               Do tell.
Nov 25th 2014
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                STOP LYING ABOUT THE LAW, BIN.
Nov 25th 2014
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                resisting arrest when police use excessive force:
Nov 25th 2014
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                     the very first line in this is its rare for this shit to work
Nov 25th 2014
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                          complain about the application of the law.
Nov 25th 2014
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                               kinda hard to do when im dead, dog.
Nov 25th 2014
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                                    we'll be lynched as soon as they find enough rope.
Nov 25th 2014
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I thought Van Jones was going to PPUNCH Don Lemon in the face
Nov 25th 2014
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why what happened
Nov 25th 2014
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brhy8iF7Qjs <=what happened
Nov 25th 2014
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      Don was mad EMO and Van handled it like a man.
Nov 25th 2014
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MAN
Nov 25th 2014
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They both made good points and just saw different things around them.
Nov 25th 2014
276
Why Darren Wilson was never going to be indicted for killing Mike Brown....
Nov 25th 2014
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St Louis County Prosecutor release all grand jusry evidence
Nov 25th 2014
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there are enough inconsistencies in Wilson's own statements that show...
Nov 25th 2014
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when black people riot over injustice they're savages
Nov 25th 2014
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i have nothing to say here.
Nov 25th 2014
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I Just felt like leaving this OLD School Rap gem. Heal Yourself!
Nov 25th 2014
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RE: I Just felt like leaving this OLD School Rap gem. Heal Yourself!
Nov 25th 2014
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No one better say shit about the troops protecting my freedoms
Nov 25th 2014
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Absolutely agree
Nov 25th 2014
221
Rand Paul is
Nov 25th 2014
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you mean the guy who objected to the Civil Rights Act multiples times?
Nov 25th 2014
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I'm not disputing that Rand Paul isn't a douche-bag at times
Nov 25th 2014
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Rand Paul can go to hell.
Nov 25th 2014
270
If all the people that "protested" actually voted things would be...
Nov 25th 2014
264
I'm just curious how much accountability you guys attribute to Mike Brow...
Nov 25th 2014
224
From the evidence of Wilson's injuries
Nov 25th 2014
225
he was on one that day.
Nov 25th 2014
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Never said that the boy deserved to die. I don't think that at all.
Nov 25th 2014
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i said that this morning..All he had to do was get out the street.
Nov 25th 2014
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he probably initiated the fight w/Wilson by reaching into the SUV.
Nov 25th 2014
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the other dude's account made more sense, with the cop hitting
Nov 25th 2014
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      I think DW tried to get out of the car and MB blocked him.
Nov 25th 2014
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      or that.
Nov 25th 2014
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           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Nov 25th 2014
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           interesting how this is my position in the case of Tamir Rice...
Nov 25th 2014
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                Armed vs unarmed.
Nov 25th 2014
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                     Perceived threat vs. Perceived threat.
Nov 25th 2014
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                          NOT THE SAME FUCKING CASE.
Nov 25th 2014
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                               Great, since this is the end for you, I can go on and tell you how...
Nov 25th 2014
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LOL. funny seeing you here.
Nov 25th 2014
242
your trolling aside...
Nov 25th 2014
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      no, you just have a shitty barometer for logic and common sense
Nov 25th 2014
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           you have a childish, black or white, this or that, view of the world...
Nov 25th 2014
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                that doesn't put the truth in the middle
Nov 25th 2014
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                     like I said, childish. It's cute.
Nov 25th 2014
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I don't think he was this "gentle giant" that wouldn't hurt a fly but I....
Nov 25th 2014
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      shhhh.. don't use phrases like "somewhere in between".. Rjcc doesn't
Nov 25th 2014
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           ^^a dumbass
Nov 25th 2014
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Mike Brown fucked up and thought
Nov 25th 2014
239
Tim Wise as usual just ethered everything
Nov 25th 2014
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He is usually problematic (privilege lens)
Nov 25th 2014
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Here's what I want ...
Nov 25th 2014
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nice
Nov 25th 2014
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I'm glad others see that Wilson's story doesn't add up
Nov 25th 2014
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Darren Wilson: His conscience is clear and he'd do it again (link)
Nov 25th 2014
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he feels justified
Nov 25th 2014
283
http://www.livememe.com/t339d8h.jpg
Nov 25th 2014
280
I'm so glad to see other states protesting as well
Nov 25th 2014
282
Killer Mike's powerful speech after hearing the verdict !
Nov 26th 2014
286
"What does justice look like?" -St. Louis City Treasurer Tishaura Jones
Nov 26th 2014
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Lawmaker wants Ferguson police force dissolved (swipe)
Dec 04th 2014
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RE: FERGUSON GRAND JURY ANNOUNCEMENT POST
Dec 07th 2014
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Mongo
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1. "I have zero faith in the process or institutions. PROVE ME WRONG, GUYS."
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2. "*Grabs a cup of coffee* How you been man?"
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Got a shitty part time job, trying to find another.

Has the store moved yet?

How are you and the girls?

  

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13. "Man this ain't the place"
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but I'll hit you up. FB or Gmail?

  

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21. "FB"
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"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard

  

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3. "You all know how this is gonna go down. "
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4. "so what do we do after?"
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6. "This has been my question form the jump"
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7. "Theres organizations in your town that are protesting."
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they are ABSOLUTELY doing something...again...in your town...this wknd

if you wanted to get down w/ them...you could

id imagine they plan on stopping traffic in some busy part of your city & raising hell

get amongst it


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8. "not in my area bruh"
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10. "Yeah stopping traffic and getting arrested for nothing. Nah."
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Mike and Travon ain't die for that nonsense


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16. "how is that nothing?"
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i want to unpack that mentality here.

people were murdered in cold blood.

people who look like those people demand justice, which isnt served.

the victims people stop traffic, stop commerce, put their bodies on the line, risk their freedom literally to symbolize their anger at the situation

thats nothing?

i think its exceptionally brave. you are unwilling to go to jail for a cause thats fine & your right but dismissing the actions of others who are...is like...terrible.

so explain your rationale, what am i missing?


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22. "I'm looking for something more substantive to help changes laws "
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>i want to unpack that mentality here.
>
>people were murdered in cold blood.
>
>people who look like those people demand justice, which isnt
>served.
>
>the victims people stop traffic, stop commerce, put their
>bodies on the line, risk their freedom literally to symbolize
>their anger at the situation
>
>thats nothing?
>
>i think its exceptionally brave. you are unwilling to go to
>jail for a cause thats fine & your right but dismissing the
>actions of others who are...is like...terrible.
>
>so explain your rationale, what am i missing?
>
>
>does it really matter?


I agree with that there was a travesty. But now, what is going to be done going forward? Standing in the street and getting locked up with no clear agenda is not my cup of tea.

But since you have some much passion for the tactic, are you going to do the same in your city? No SNARK..





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25. "the first response will be protest"
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thats where the stopping traffic thing comes in

the aspect i am involved in is building a grassroots 3rd party that really represents the people & what people want

so in 2016 we have real progressives to choose from on a local/state level

& build THAT up


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27. "I hear you. But that's not my thing. "
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>thats where the stopping traffic thing comes in
>
>the aspect i am involved in is building a grassroots 3rd party
>that really represents the people & what people want
>
>so in 2016 we have real progressives to choose from on a
>local/state level
>
>& build THAT up
>


I say protest in front of the capital building where the laws are passed.


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40. "yep. the protests need to be targeted to where change actually happens."
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that stopping traffic thing that happened here a while ago did nothing but piss motorists off and make the movement seem wacky.

i don't see much coming from those kinds of stunts.

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49. "a protest rally in front of a public building"
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will by definition be VERY regulated.

ie you march here to there. you can mill around in this place only. the march is accepteable from this time to that time.

etc

IOW, a protest against authority that is defined BY authority isnt really much of a protest...and in order to get the masses involved the imagery has to be the authority doesnt run this shit. we run it

stopping traffic, halting commerce is HELLA annoying for motorists i cant begin to describe my anger @ being stuck in traffic by a protest & god forbid if im trying to get my kids before 6:30 or something but thats collateral damage that has to unfortunately happen

because this shit HAS to stop


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73. "RE: so what do we do after?"
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Vote every single freaking time. And shame everyone you know into doing the same.

  

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5. "no charges. people march on the sidewalk in orderly rows"
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a few get arrested. most scream & holler from the curb.

by monday something else would have happened & the media will have moved on & would be safely ignoring the ppl who are determined to holler still

binlahab keeps working towards 2016


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9. "don't forget the wonton destruction"
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11. "smh..."
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wonton: a type of dumpling commonly found in a number of Chinese cuisines.

wanton: (of a cruel or violent action) deliberate and unprovoked.
"sheer wanton vandalism"


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12. "Them Chinese spots getting fucked up first."
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He right.

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15. "*Cuba Gooding air punches*"
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goddammit you people...


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35. "LMFAO! damn, this aint even appropriate but lulz."
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29. "thanks. Glad you got my point tho... "
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19. "If they destroy all the wontons, the Chinese restaurants will be pissed!..."
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20. "RE: don't forget the wonton destruction"
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http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs8/i/2005/304/7/e/WonTon_Destruction_by_Cheswick.jpg

  

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14. "can you motherfuckers just let shit happen first?"
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Seriously. Speculation for weeks. Rightfully so. But now it's day-of, and you're setting the shit off with speculation.

Sitcho CNN ass down for a sec and wait for info.

  

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17. "i would urge you to take my dick out your mouth but its so warm."
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please dont think just because we cant type nigga now that all of a sudden shit is all peachy keen


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18. "oh hell! niggas back. nm"
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23. "lol"
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24. "and so it begins"
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26. "FBI Sends 100 Agents to Ferguson Ahead of Grand Jury Decision"
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http://abcnews.go.com/US/fbi-sends-100-agents-ferguson-ahead-grand-jury/story?id=27084669


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28. "There wont be any/much destruction either way."
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Just a hunch

  

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30. "not even WONTON"
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DESTRUCTION?

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31. "Nope. No Egg Foo Young, either."
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32. "I'm a pack my egg rolls up and bounce Gee..."
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cops is outside...

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33. "urrbody chill."
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it seems the news conference was about security measures to be used when the decision is announced. LOL

http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/local/2014/11/21/charlie-dooley-security-news-conference/19349087/

fuck you.

  

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34. "I'm guessing they announce it during or near Thanksgiving proper"
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Make it so people are at home with their families or pre-occupied by shopping.

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36. "This Ferguson case alone has shown me how f - ed up black people are tre..."
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I didn't believe it before. But now, I do. From the way they released the officers name by showing a video of Mike brown before, the way they treated the protesters, and this vague ass cloudy warning of the indictment and the National Guard bull ish.

I'm just done.

I'm sure Ferguson doesn't feel a part of America. I feel sorry for anyone who lives there.
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37. "did you just start watching the news?"
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42. "Did you half way read my post?"
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Predictable ass reply regardless.

step your snark up.
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50. "that wasnt snark, police been killing us for years... why is this case t..."
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52. "this case isn't the final straw"
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But it showed me that I wasn't lied to when I was told how black people and poor people are treated harshly and how the system justifies it. I kinda saw it with katrina. But this Ferguson thing is really opening my eyes. The long and dragged out process, the excessive force on the innocent protestors, shows me that we still have a long way to go in receiving justice.

  

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38. "...and LA, Philly, Florida, NY and everywhere else. We're all linked."
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whether we realize it or not.

>
>I'm sure Ferguson doesn't feel a part of America. I feel sorry
>for anyone who lives there.
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43. "That shit would not happen in my part of va dog."
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But I know what u are saying.
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45. "lol, how so?"
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46. "I doubt it would. But that is my opinion."
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48. "In your opinion, why couldn't that happen in your part of VA?"
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51. "it happened in Oakland, NYC, Miami, Charlotte, LA, etc... VA aint specia..."
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53. "you aren't special, or funny "
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54. "I'm not trying to be funny. I lived in VA for 6 years, it can happen any..."
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I'm sure some people in Fergusan watched Rodney King, Katrina, Oakland, NYC and said the same thing.

It can happen anywhere in America.

VA aint special.

I think its a little insensitive to act like Feguson let this happen or your hood is so trill that it couldnt happen in your part of VA.

  

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56. "I don't blame Ferguson for anything"
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63. "I moved to Teaneck NJ in 89"
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it was the corniest lil suburban town in North Jerz. I was thinking "Growing Pains" and "Family Ties" type steeze mixed with a lil Different World.
That was until a police officer shot and killed a teenage boy of 16. The cop shot him in the back and the little town turned into a reace-fueled dangerzone. THe town rioted... buildings burned. We prostested. Sharpton and J Jack came to my school... etc.


It can happen anywhere, trust.

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69. "it can happen anywhere. "
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39. "I bet their solidarity is through the roof "
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If anything they probably feel more American than ever before.

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41. " http://youtu.be/yp5sAQSYyYs"
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44. "true."
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47. "A lot of people are noticing it now"
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55. "America and the KKK are one and the same."
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"Justice" used to be hanging and burning niggers over accusations and any Black person
who opposed said torture.
Now, they shoot niggers and torture the protesters. Same story line, different time
and (form of) execution, pun intended.

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156. "Open your eyes to the world around you "
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what makes VA any different?


it's no different.

we have to move through the
world like a thief in a night,
trying to survive day to day,
hour to hour...

  

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57. "BREAKING NEWS: ANNOUNCEMENT LATER TODAY per CNN"
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59. "!!!"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy8dUJEOqos

fuck you.

  

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60. "or is more like:"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G4jnaznUoQ

fuck you.

  

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62. "Presumably after school let's out."
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58. "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3Hxqx4okFE <==placeholder nm"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3Hxqx4okFE

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61. "not quite."
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fuck you.

  

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64. "The boys are excited and cleaning their guns as we speak."
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They've dreamed of this day.

  

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65. "At first I was sure there wasn't gonna be an indictment, now Im not so -"
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sure.

  

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66. "I see involuntary manslaughter "
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67. "indictment to satisfy the people but exonerated at trial bc c'mon."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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68. "^^^Yep, just like Trayvon"
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71. "he wont be charged"
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________________________________________
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72. "Probably"
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74. "RE: indictment to satisfy the people but exonerated at trial bc c'mon."
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No way this dude gets indicted. Not a chance.

  

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70. "announcement will come at 8 PM ET"
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https://twitter.com/ABC/status/536979606188728320

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75. "Wow. Wilson got married while being investigated and actions protested"
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#relationshipgoals?

  

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76. "Just save Lam's Garden Chop Suey on Olive in U City. And that Imo's too."
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The one on Olive near Woodson.

And I need a 60 something inch tv. Curved if it's not too much to ask. I can pick it up @ Xmas.

fuck you.

  

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78. "^ LOL'ed at this so hard. forgive me, lord."
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♚♚♚♚

#BYLUG >>> https://goo.gl/1ooFp6

♚♚♚♚

screamin' mothafuck a 12 /
bitches ain't shit /
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♚♚♚♚

  

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79. "no St Paul, no peace!"
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fuck you.

  

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77. "6:43 EST - CNN News Conference"
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They're talking like World War Z is about to jump off. Straight up fait accompli.

"The world is watching how we handle our DISAGREEMENTS" etc... They know the block is too hot. SMH.

  

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80. "I don't like how this is being hyped up...."
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almost as if the media outlets want an actual riot to break out. I think it's fair to assume that the mayor expects the jury to let Darren Wilson go.

  

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81. "they want a riot bc of the pretty pictures. "
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And so they can say they were there. First.

I hate cable news.

fuck you.

  

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86. "basically. "
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www.royallegacy.org

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93. "yep, thats exactly how it feels. Like their on some Don King shit."
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82. "RE: I don't like how this is being hyped up...."
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That's what I am saying. They are telegraphing all kinds of stuff and turning it into a self fulfilling prophecy where violence of some sort is inevitable. This whole thing, the timing of the release is crazy suspect. Like it's palpable how F-ed up this is.

  

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84. "i hope people cause gatdamn havoc in the streets personally"
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stop traffic, stop commerce, stop taking this bullshit


does it really matter?

for all my fans who keep my name in their mouth: http://i.imgur.com/v2xNOpS.jpg

  

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85. "And that's where I'm a little unsure....."
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because on one hand I want people to stand up against these fuckers but at the same time....I don't want to see a bunch of black people lose their life out there either.

But something's got to give...if the national media didn't run with the Trayvon Martin case (most Melissa Harris-Perry on MSNBC) that wouldn't have been a big deal. And there have been a bunch of cases like this across the country that continue to not be a big deal. Hell...out here in NC, a boy was lynched and no one's forcing SBI to launch an investigation into that. They're allowing that shit to be ruled as a suicide.

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92. "basically you want everyone BUT the guilty party to pay"
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If cats REALLY mean it about ballzing up and taking a stand, descend squarely on the police department.

But if some mom and pop shop trying to make ends meet has to be looted for cats to "not take it anymore", or someone's daddy can't get to the ER in time, then fuck everyone.

  

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83. "I'll be sleep by 8:00. I just need to know if I am expected to be at wor..."
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work tomorrow. Tried to get outta there early today but the VP was like "eh - no"
No time off - No peace!

♥ Inescapably Me ♥

"Love is never any better than the lover" Toni Morrison (The Bluest Eye)

  

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87. "This some BS! Ferguson is a trash hole. "
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"In God's Kingdom, your greatness isn't measured by how much you gain and keep. No, true Kingdom greatness is measured by how much you give way."

  

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88. "The heell are they waiting on? Did they have the press conf"
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earlier today like they said they would?

  

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89. "heavy police presence in ferguson to ensure residents adequately provoke..."
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http://www.theonion.com/articles/heavy-police-presence-in-ferguson-to-ensure-reside,37528/


FERGUSON, MO—Ahead of a grand jury’s decision over whether to indict officer Darren Wilson in the shooting death of unarmed black teenager Michael Brown, police in the city of Ferguson have reportedly heavily increased their presence this week to ensure residents are adequately provoked. “We’ve deployed additional officers throughout Ferguson in order to make absolutely certain that residents feel sufficiently harassed and intimidated,” said St. Louis County police chief Jon Belmar, assuring locals that officers in full riot gear will be on hand to inflame members of the community for as long as is necessary. “It’s absolutely essential that the people of Ferguson have full confidence that law enforcement is committed to antagonizing them every step of the way.” At press time, the Missouri National Guard was on standby with tanks and urban assault vehicles in case Ferguson residents required additional incitement.

  

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98. "Lol"
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90. "It's looking like no indictment is coming"
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shouldn't be surprised, but I am.

Hope the early reports are wrong.

--

"You can't beat white people. You can only knock them out."

  

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91. "No good reason to wait this long to make an announcement."
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They created this build up and are therefore accountable for any incidents that may occur as a result.

This is ridiculous.

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94. "who has it live?"
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okay it's on the networks now. i thought hey weren't showing it.... took them so long after 8 to get on tv.

  

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95. "didn't they say 5 minutes to go 15 minutes ago?"
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96. "they should kill every CNN reporter once they make the announcement"
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*******************************************************
i will not let finite disappointment undermine infinite hope
- Cory Booker

Football is a simple game; 22 men chase a ball for 90 minutes, and at the end the Germans always win
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100. "wtf?"
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101. "their coverage is solely based on their hope that there is chaos"
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give them what they want

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i will not let finite disappointment undermine infinite hope
- Cory Booker

Football is a simple game; 22 men chase a ball for 90 minutes, and at the end the Germans always win
- Gary Lineker

  

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97. "HERE IT COMES"
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!!

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99. "Here We Go! "
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"In God's Kingdom, your greatness isn't measured by how much you gain and keep. No, true Kingdom greatness is measured by how much you give way."

  

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102. "This is like OJ 2.0..."
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>NPR says they're prepping a news conference right now.

  

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103. "Listening now.....sittin here prayin for this situation"
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and allllllll involved

  

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104. "i like how NBC is just rolling w/ the voice"
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instead of wasting our time showing us what we already know is going to happen.

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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111. "not here in stl! news been broadcasting none stop since at least 4pm"
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And telling people to watch the voice on nbc.com tomorrow
Abc moved forward with scheduled programming though

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112. "i wish fox here just went with it. i was watching sleepy hollow"
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this is boring unless they're gonna swerve us and indict him.

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105. "No indictment in Ferguson case (USAToday)"
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/11/24/ferguson-grand-jury-deliberations/19474907/

  

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106. "he's explaining why they're not going to indict right now"
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>NPR says they're prepping a news conference right now.


  

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107. "We all know how this story ends ppl "
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__________________
boys to the yard

  

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108. "Yeah this is going to be no billed. He's trying to soften the blow"
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109. "damn shame."
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♚♚♚♚

#BYLUG >>> https://goo.gl/1ooFp6

♚♚♚♚

screamin' mothafuck a 12 /
bitches ain't shit /
cops ain't neither /
they huntin' my people /

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110. "So the prosecuter is going to discredit all witnesses via the media "
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that he claims has created the sensational atmosphere.


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114. "basically. with no rebuttal. "
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115. "This so sad. This man is creating a narrative for justification. "
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120. "Motherfucker."
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>you gain and keep. No, true Kingdom greatness is measured by
>how much you give way."

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138. "he's also tainting the federal juries."
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fuck you.

  

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113. "no charges"
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u.s. is the best place for blacks!!!!!!

  

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116. "this dude likes to hear himself talk"
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117. "I'm up in STL right now, visiting in-laws."
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I gotta find a clear, safe route back to my wife's friend's house where we are staying.



Since 1976

  

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118. "All this investigating and there is no real consistency ? "
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__________________
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119. "damn."
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121. "This punk mutherfucker just said Black men ARE NOT being killed"
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with impunity.

Fuck you.

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122. "S/o to these British reporters?"
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They're not scared.

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123. "yooo...thats what i was thinking"
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Navem nu, cuando sol
Tutu nu, vondo nos nu
Vita em, no continous non
Nos nu ekta nos sepe ta, amen

When the sun shades the ship
We sweat and life is not safe
To swim or to touch not
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124. "from a legal standpoint, the problem i have with all this"
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is that the prosecutor essentially conducted a full blown trial with witnesses (including officer wilson), and none of them were cross examined.

in short, the grand jury's job should have only have been to evaluate whether enough evidence was available to charge. they went like 3 steps further (with the prosecutors help) and actually evaluated the weight of the evidence and credibility of witnesses and decided on their own that darren wilson was innocent. truly disgusting.

  

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126. "my, goodness you articulated this so much better..."
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than I could have ever dreamed to. Thank you.

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129. "^^^^^"
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135. "Yeah. From what I understand, grand juries are a slam dunk for indictmen..."
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since the prosecutor simply presents evidence against the accused with no chance of rebuttal. Isn't the saying "a good prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich"

Just a quick google search got some numbers. 99.6% indictment rate for federal grand juries, 94.1% in New York, 98-99% in Kentucky.

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142. "check the indictment rate for police officers"
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149. "It’s Incredibly Rare For A Grand Jury To Do What Ferguson’s Just Did"
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(swipe)

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/ferguson-michael-brown-indictment-darren-wilson/

It’s Incredibly Rare For A Grand Jury To Do What Ferguson’s Just Did

9:30 PM By BEN CASSELMAN

A St. Louis County grand jury on Monday decided not to indict Ferguson, Missouri, police Officer Darren Wilson in the August killing of teenager Michael Brown. The decision wasn’t a surprise — leaks from the grand jury had led most observers to conclude an indictment was unlikely — but it was unusual. Grand juries nearly always decide to indict.

Or at least, they nearly always do so in cases that don’t involve police officers.

Former New York state Chief Judge Sol Wachtler famously remarked that a prosecutor could persuade a grand jury to “indict a ham sandwich.” The data suggests he was barely exaggerating: According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. attorneys prosecuted 162,000 federal cases in 2010, the most recent year for which we have data. Grand juries declined to return an indictment in 11 of them.

Wilson’s case was heard in state court, not federal, so the numbers aren’t directly comparable. Unlike in federal court, most states, including Missouri, allow prosecutors to bring charges via a preliminary hearing in front of a judge instead of through a grand jury indictment. That means many routine cases never go before a grand jury. Still, legal experts agree that, at any level, it is extremely rare for prosecutors to fail to win an indictment.

“If the prosecutor wants an indictment and doesn’t get one, something has gone horribly wrong,” said Andrew D. Leipold, a University of Illinois law professor who has written critically about grand juries. “It just doesn’t happen.”

Cases involving police shootings, however, appear to be an exception. As my colleague Reuben Fischer-Baum has written, we don’t have good data on officer-involved killings. But newspaper accounts suggest, grand juries frequently decline to indict law-enforcement officials. A recent Houston Chronicle investigation found that “police have been nearly immune from criminal charges in shootings” in Houston and other large cities in recent years. In Harris County, Texas, for example, grand juries haven’t indicted a Houston police officer since 2004; in Dallas, grand juries reviewed 81 shootings between 2008 and 2012 and returned just one indictment. Separate research by Bowling Green State University criminologist Philip Stinson has found that officers are rarely charged in on-duty killings, although it didn’t look at grand jury indictments specifically.

There are at least three possible explanations as to why grand juries are so much less likely to indict police officers. The first is juror bias: Perhaps jurors tend to trust police officer and believe their decisions to use violence are justified, even when the evidence says otherwise. The second is prosecutorial bias: Perhaps prosecutors, who depend on police as they work on criminal cases, tend to present a less compelling case against officers, whether consciously or unconsciously.

The third possible explanation is more benign. Ordinarily, prosecutors only bring a case if they think they can get an indictment. But in high-profile cases such as police shootings, they may feel public pressure to bring charges even if they think they have a weak case.

“The prosecutor in this case didn’t really have a choice about whether he would bring this to a grand jury,” Ben Trachtenberg, a University of Missouri law professor, said of the Brown case. “It’s almost impossible to imagine a prosecutor saying the evidence is so scanty that I’m not even going to bring this before a grand jury.”

The explanations aren’t mutually exclusive. It’s possible, for example, that the evidence against Wilson was relatively weak, but that jurors were also more likely than normal to give him the benefit of the doubt. St. Louis County prosecutor Robert McCulloch has said he plans to release the evidence collected in the case, which would give the public a chance to evaluate whether justice was served here. But beyond Ferguson, we won’t know without better data why grand juries are so reluctant to indict police officers.

  

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125. "what was the vote breakdown?"
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128. "he said they cant let that out."
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131. "He said he didn't know and wasn't allowed to know."
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127. "and as the President speaks..."
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it's jumping off in front of the FPD. It's gonna be a long night out there.

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132. "MAN!"
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♥ Inescapably Me ♥

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133. "It looks like EVERY school in North County is closed tomorrow"
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130. "They are gassing the hell of those people. "
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134. "CNN itching for some drama in the streets"
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That's their main focus.

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136. "Gotta Here Both Sides"
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"America, stop turning our Court Houses of Justice into Dens for Justified Murderers."

  

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139. "i think i saw Don Lemon throw a trash can through a store window."
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j/k

but if more drama doesn't jump off soon we might see the reporters for the various news agencies fight each other and the police just so they have something to report.

fuck you.

  

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137. "McCullough gave a wonderful closing argument for the defense."
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wow.

as a defense lawyer that's exactly how i would've defended Wilson.

spot on.

well done.

FOR THE FUCKING DEFENSE.

as he talked about the various credibility problems of certain eyewitnesses i figured he had a real weak case. but then when he talked about the physical evidence i couldn't understand how the grand jury would've failed to indict if he'd only presented 1 or 2 witnesses whose stories best fit the physical facts. and had recommended a charge or charges that best fit the good evidence presented. b/c, you know, that's what prosecutors do at the grand jury. and he could've. and clearly didn't b/c he wanted to pass the buck to this grand jury. and protect Wilson.

i wish one of those reporters had asked homeboy if it's now his office's policy to present grand juries w/all of the evidence in EVERY case. and if not, why'd he do it in this case?

i mean, i know why he did it but i want to hear him lie about that.

fuck you.

  

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147. "thanks. b/c i keep hearing the ol 'you can indict a ham sandwich""
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canard regarding prosecutors and indictments, and i hear this motherfucker sounding like a high powered defense lawyer.

CLEARLY his main objective is protecting cops. fuck the citizenry. fuck reasonable doubt. fuck the rule of law. fuck disclosure. and pretty much fuck all black people.

meanwhile, this is the same area where the cops charged a dude who got his ass beat by the cops for damaging their uniforms with his blood.

the entire fuck outta here.


peace & blessings,

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140. "Darren Wilson's 'wounds' are pathetic"
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These are supposed to support his story?

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/537091624481091585/photo/1
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3QfxKdIcAEBQi6.jpg

  

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144. "Is that his fractured orbital bone we heard so much about?"
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Dude looks like he was just out in the sun 15 minutes too long.

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172. "Motherfucker just popped an ingrown pimple"
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141. "Don Le'mon: "Obviously, there's a smell of marijuana in the air""
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lol

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143. "protestor shaming ..."
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157. "probably the only thing keeping the peace"
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145. "I 44 in St. Louis being blocked by a hundred or so protestors"
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146. "white people never got over OJ yo"
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i mean gotdamn. that nigga went to jail anyways. i've rather he be found guilty to get Trayvon and Mike back. i mean gotdamn.
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it's true what they say...people are strange, when you're strangers.

not compassionate....only polite.

I am not like you at all and i cannot pretend.

  

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148. "Coon Train comin! Steve Brown! "
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He's my frat & all but I had to respond to this dumb shit

https://twitter.com/comicstevebrown/status/537083114137591809

https://twitter.com/comicstevebrown/status/537087151880822785

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81 DUN
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150. "Powerful Ferguson protest song just dropped"
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5T0utQ-XWGY

  

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152. "RE: Powerful Ferguson protest song just dropped"
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Corny as fuck

  

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151. "i wanna see some actual lawyer(s) prosecute Wilson using"
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the St. Louis County state's attorney case file. the one released right after the GJ decision announcement.

i wanna read/see a mock grand jury presentation in State v. Darren Wilson.

fuck you.

  

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178. "right? WTF at having the grand jury be the trial..."
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i've never heard of this...

  

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190. "the prosecutors put on a trial w/no judge & no adversary."
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they impeached their own eyewitnesses. they presented multiple autopsy results - including a private autopsy result. the defendant testified w/o cross examination. the grand jury was instructed about the defendant's self defense. and the prosecutors made no recommendation about any particular criminal charge(s).

it's fucking absurd.

fuck you.

  

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153. "Bin, they burning shit down, you happy? Are you burning shit down in..."
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your neighborhood?

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161. "okay! fuckers who dont even live here talking about 'burn it down'"
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♥ Inescapably Me ♥

"Love is never any better than the lover" Toni Morrison (The Bluest Eye)

  

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162. "Right? Those niggas sound ignorant and stupid as hell."
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Since 1976

  

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171. "2 police cars, dude? no im not happy."
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ill be happy when its happening nationwide tho.


does it really matter?

for all my fans who keep my name in their mouth: http://i.imgur.com/v2xNOpS.jpg

  

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191. "So are you burning up YOUR neighborhood?"
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233. "He is burning some ribs as we speak"
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http://soundcloud.com/djshinobishaw
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290. "LMAO"
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Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

  

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154. "St. Louis County Police Scanner stream"
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http://m.ustream.tv/channel/st-louis-county-police-scanner

  

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155. "CNN reporter gets clocked by a rock (vine)"
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https://vine.co/v/O1HgFnqilFA

shit sound like an aluminum bat

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160. "lol."
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_____________
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Rjcc is code for "bitch-ass troll"

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167. "Fuck CNN (c) - protester "
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http://gawker.com/ferguson-protestor-says-what-were-all-thinking-fuck-c-1663036879

..|.,

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158. "This gravity of this situation has not set in yet..."
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..

But it will in the coming days and weeks.

I knew this was coming but I'm still stunned. I'm in this weird phase where I'm shocked and sad at the same time. They couldn't put him on trial at all. No one in that community should trust police officers at all. Best believe Mike Brown's family is suing the police department.

Being a black male in America is hard enough but now i have to deal with this shit. They can kill me and then use the "aggressive black male" excuse to get off.

The more I type the more messed up I feel. Conservative media outlets are going to make me hate humanity.

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159. "where is dorian johnson?-"
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_____________
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Rjcc is code for "bitch-ass troll"

DROkayplayer™

  

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163. "This is all so frustrating and I'm so torn..."
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back in August, I felt like protest, but don't riot, burn and loot. Looting and burning helps nothing and reinforces stereotypes.

Now, I still hold to my earlier sentiments, but I understand better the lawlessness.

I stand with suite lady and other Missourians who are fearful of what is happening to their city. But I also say burn the fucking police cars.

Fuck 'em.

Peaceful isn't working.

BUT, let's not burn our own. BURN THEIRS

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164. "I'm with you to an extent..."
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....

but I'll lose my shit if Fox News or CNN broadcast a sea of black people getting gunned down by armed police officers live on television over rioting. I think that moment could push some people over the edge and make things harder than they need to be. As sad as I am now, I would feel a million times worse after seeing that.

It's not for me to tell them what to do or how to feel but hope they're safe. Those cops brought out the 9/11 army gear like they're ready to fight the enemy.

  

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166. "yeah"
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fuck all that burning our shit, go right after the motherfuckers who caused the shit. Molotov the Prosecutor's Office right up.

  

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176. "What a stupid thing to say. They'd be shot before the Bic was flicked."
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What the hell is on some of yall's brains?

>fuck all that burning our shit, go right after the
>motherfuckers who caused the shit. Molotov the Prosecutor's
>Office right up.

  

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192. "fools watch too many movies"
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222. "It's called being willing to die for the cause."
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A number of folks who were a part of major social movements for justice were willing to put their lives on the line. If youre doing all of this rioting because justice wasn't served, take that frustration to the enemy themselves. Oh, you're scared you're gonna get shot. I guess you aren't as revolutionary as you try to portray yourself to be. That's why all of this rioting is disingenuous.



Since 1976

  

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229. "Well you go right ahead and get started, I'll be right behind you buddy."
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fuckouttahere

  

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248. "Nope, because I don't condone these so called frustrated niggas...."
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..tearing up the neighborhood. My point is, if you're so full of righteous indignation that you think you're doing something revolutionary by tearing up your own neighborhood, then do something that takes real risk for change. Don't go the easy route and burn down Lil' Caesar's on the block. Take the fight to those whom you deem as the enemy. If you're not willing to do that, then you aren't as revolutionary as you thought you were. You're a coward.

I always say that we need to take a more strategic approach instead of throwing tantrums. Personally, I don't think going up to fight cops is the answer either but if you're gonna wild out, don't do it to the folks who have nothing to do with the issue and who more than likely are on your side for the most part. Take the fight to the folks who are a part of the issue.




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249. "i couldn't have said it better. "
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168. "who pays for the police cars? The taxpayers, smh, the police don't..."
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give a damn about burning cars, they'll just get new ones and send the taxpayers the bill.

Burning shit and stealing hair weave and car mats ain't gonna resolve shit.

Dumb niggas out here doing exactly what they want them to do.

PD and FD are for the most part sitting back laughing and allowing them to burn shit down.



>back in August, I felt like protest, but don't riot, burn and
>loot. Looting and burning helps nothing and reinforces
>stereotypes.
>
>Now, I still hold to my earlier sentiments, but I understand
>better the lawlessness.
>
>I stand with suite lady and other Missourians who are fearful
>of what is happening to their city. But I also say burn the
>fucking police cars.
>
>Fuck 'em.
>
>Peaceful isn't working.
>
>BUT, let's not burn our own. BURN THEIRS

________________________________________
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169. "they're literally burning Ferguson/Florissant to the ground...."
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a lot of folk gonna wake up without a job to go to.

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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174. "the burning will only vent ppl's frustration."
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but the laws in the state of Missouri won't be amended b/c ppl burned police cars.

the civil rights investigation by the fedz won't result in federal criminal charges b/c ppl burned down a restaurant.

the family's police misconduct/brutality case won't result in a favorable verdict b/c ppl burned down a gas station.

but frustration w/the GJ decision and the local prosecutor's handling of the process will be expressed. as it's being expressed in other methods that don't result in the loss of services for ppl who live in the area where the shooting happened.

fuck you.

  

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179. "There's nothing to be torn about. It was bitch made. "
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Did those fuckups descend on the police department? No.

They descended on a community they don't give a shit about, to use an atmosphere of righteous anger as cover to wild out and take shit from innocent people, destroying said community and undermining the cries of actual protesters.

  

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181. "they were @ the FPD last night. It was heavily protected and didn't burn..."
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But police cars were burned.

fuck you.

  

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274. "it doesn't matter if some were or if it was one of several stops. Either"
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Focus all rage on the "bad guys" or fall back. Attacking innocent people is pansy dickwad shit. What if Darren Wilson was justifiably enraged at his cousin's boyfriend, so he just had to shoot an innocent kid after punching the boyfriend? Fuck no

I don't think going to war with the FPD is a great idea either (would just worsen the situation, not to mention some cops are good ppl), but my point is they're the ONLY cats to attack if you absolutely can't control yourself.

  

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165. "Bob McCullough gotta go."
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I can only wish that man's career ends in a Bill Cosby-level tainting.
or better yet, a Jimmy Saville-level tainting.


  

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193. "how many of those "protesters" do you think voted?"
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240. "no idea. This dude just needs to be gone."
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258. "I don't think anyone ran against him"
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♥ Inescapably Me ♥

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275. "nope"
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170. "knowing it would happen didn't help"
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173. "Keep denying everything I say about America's relationship to Black folk"
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It will be clear to every single one of yall soon enough.
Keep buying the multicultural melting pot post-racial bullSHIT if you want.
How long have negros been believing in equality in America? Over a century now?
When will we ever wake up?

Just know that your reality is different from non-Black folks.
And that is NOT changing. You tryna keep begging white folks not to shoot you? Really?
You tryna write "dear white people" letters and let them know you ain't threatening?
They don't CARE.
And it's time you stopped caring about acceptance into their society.
Separatism is the only way. We don't have NO friends. Yeah some white folks wanna
help blah blah blah, but if it really goes down, they're protecting their own first, and so
should you.
Motherfuckers go harder over abortion and animal cruelty than they go for slain Black folks

Fuck 'em.



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184. "so, you're suggesting an all-out race war?"
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>Separatism is the only way.


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265. "Come again?"
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175. "..and this is why God created 42 US Code Section 1983."
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http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/1983

Every person who, under color of any statute, ordinance, regulation, custom, or usage, of any State or Territory or the District of Columbia, subjects, or causes to be subjected, any citizen of the United States or other person within the jurisdiction thereof to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured by the Constitution and laws, shall be liable to the party injured in an action at law, suit in equity, or other proper proceeding for redress, except that in any action brought against a judicial officer for an act or omission taken in such officer’s judicial capacity, injunctive relief shall not be granted unless a declaratory decree was violated or declaratory relief was unavailable. For the purposes of this section, any Act of Congress applicable exclusively to the District of Columbia shall be considered to be a statute of the District of Columbia.

^ the family will use this federal law as the basis for a civil suit in federal court, likely in downtown St. Louis @ the federal court house there. i think they have several claims to bring for 4th and 14th Amendment violations against the officer, the department, and the city of Ferguson. plus they'll be able to bring suit under Missouri state law w/in the same case.

fuck you.

  

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177. "lets hope theyre successful"
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What kind of effect will the non indictment of Wilson have on the civil suit if any?

  

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227. "similar situation to OJ"
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OJ was found not guilty in his criminal trial but found guilty in the civil suit.

  

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180. "Reading the testimony and seeing the evidence...what I don't understand"
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The truth is likely somewhere in between the "Brown was standing with his hands up" and "Brown was trying to run through a hail of bullets to strangle the innocent cop", but why the shit does the cop get out of his SUV, especially if you've never fired your weapon before and were wanting to just keep an eye on Brown until other police arrived? What part of the supposed struggle at the SUV equates to getting out and shooting at Brown? What part of police training is that? Those bruises don't indicate the level of beating Wilson was reportedly enduring. If anything, if you believe the County's medical examiner, Brown has been shot in the hand and is fleeing from the vehicle. You, as a soft and scared cop, leave and wait for it to play it out on his own (suspect reporting to a local ER with a gunshot wound to the hand). The attitude that "gun trumps all" and should be used in that situation is really screwed up.

And looting and burning your own city is still stupid as hell.

  

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183. "it is not clear that Wilson reasonably feared for his life "
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after a shot and bleeding MB ran away from the SUV and then turned back to Wilson. Even if he charged - he was bleeding from at least one gunshot wound and was unarmed. That right there is PROBABLE CAUSE for trial. That's all they had to present for an indictment.

fuck you.

  

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186. "And that's what I don't get, especially since Wilson admits to "
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firing more shots at Brown as he was running away and then continuing to fire shots as he (supposedly) turned back towards him. What? How is that not good enough for a full trial? What is the profile of this jury?

  

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188. "RE: And that's what I don't get, especially since Wilson admits to "
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<What is the profile of this jury?

7 men
5 women

9 whites
3 blacks

They vary by age, socioeconomic status and live in various parts of St. Louis County.

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187. "right - an indictment is a very low bar: probable cause"
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but of course, when the prosecutor is acting as the defense attorney...well, yea.

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189. "exactly. "
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fuck you.

  

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194. "an indictment for a police officer is completely different from regular...."
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citizens

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195. "I thought police have the right to shoot until the threat is down."
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---
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198. "it doesn't have to be clear to you, as long as he *thought* his life was..."
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in danger then the shooting is justified.

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199. "why is this defense not acceptable for Brown then?"
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He thought his life was in danger and attacked.

If its OK for police to feel that way why is that not OK for me or you to use that defense?

  

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200. "it isn't okay if the opponent is a police officer."
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>He thought his life was in danger and attacked.
>
>If its OK for police to feel that way why is that not OK for
>me or you to use that defense?
>
>

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201. "that's wholly contingent upon legal interpretation"
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The Supreme Court is littered with prosecutors who
have wholesale acquiesced to police authority, but that's
an inappropriate legal interpretation.

Wilson had to be justified and reasonable in his belief that
his life was in danger in firing every single shot at unarmed Brown,
whether he's a police officer or not.

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202. "Not necessarily."
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>Wilson had to be justified and reasonable in his belief that
>his life was in danger in firing every single shot at unarmed
>Brown,
>whether he's a police officer or not.
>

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203. "yea that was persuasive. "
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205. "Sorry, let me be clear in saying I don't care if you agree."
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206. "thanks for your expert legal opinion."
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207. "fleeing felon rule could also apply"
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It might be a stretch to make it stick, but it is a justification for the use of deadly force against a fleeing suspect.

  

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210. "true, but Wilson claims that what while he had knowledge"
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of the theft, he did not attribute Brown to the theft and was simply asking him and his friend to move to the sidewalk.

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217. "the felony part would come in at the assault"
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on an officer part of the story. that was actually my main concern out of this whole narrative, but it seems that not much attention was even paid to this fact.

probably because mcculloch was acting like wilson's defense attorney anyway.

  

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220. "Wilson's interview the day after is laughable"
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he was like "I feared for my life and could not fend him off and had no time to react...but then I thought about reaching for my mase, and then for the taser, and then i had time to reach for them both w/ my left hand while fending off the 'demon' with just my right-hand - oh, even though i felt like a 5-year old trying to control hulk hogan - oh, and then i realized i couldn't mase or tase him and i thought 'what if i mased myself? would i be disabled?' - the mase might not hit him either, and that's when he grabbed my gun and turned it to me taunting me, right at my pelvic region...and then miraculously, i overthrew the Incredible Hulk and got control of my gun, and shot him...then he began to walk away and i got out and told him to get down, then he charged at me w/ demonic intensity never seen before on the face of the earth! He charged at me w/ his hand reaching for his waistband numerous times yet there was no gun! it was like magic! I had no choice but to fire 6,7,8 shots into him!"

cool story bro.


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260. "it really is, also the part Brown punching him with his right hand while..."
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holding "several packs of cigarillos" in his right hand at the same time, lol

>he was like "I feared for my life and could not fend him off
>and had no time to react...but then I thought about reaching
>for my mase, and then for the taser, and then i had time to
>reach for them both w/ my left hand while fending off the
>'demon' with just my right-hand - oh, even though i felt like
>a 5-year old trying to control hulk hogan - oh, and then i
>realized i couldn't mase or tase him and i thought 'what if i
>mased myself? would i be disabled?' - the mase might not hit
>him either, and that's when he grabbed my gun and turned it to
>me taunting me, right at my pelvic region...and then
>miraculously, i overthrew the Incredible Hulk and got control
>of my gun, and shot him...then he began to walk away and i got
>out and told him to get down, then he charged at me w/ demonic
>intensity never seen before on the face of the earth! He
>charged at me w/ his hand reaching for his waistband numerous
>times yet there was no gun! it was like magic! I had no choice
>but to fire 6,7,8 shots into him!"
>
>cool story bro.
>
>
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272. "not to mention"
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>holding "several packs of cigarillos" in his right hand at
>the same time, lol
>

In the middle of whipping a cop's ass, he stops, hands the cigarillos to his friend, saying "here, hold these for a minute" and then resumes whipping the cop's ass

*Jews you*

"this is okp tho, reading is completely optional" (c) desus

Proceed with caution. I am overtly racist.

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212. "because he's not a police officer, not saying its right, that's the way...."
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the laws are set up. Burning down black neighborhoods won't change that.

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216. "no, that's the way the laws are misinterpreted. "
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238. "RE: no, that's the way the laws are misinterpreted. "
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http://www.thenation.com/article/190937/why-its-impossible-indict-cop#

http://www.statesman.com/news/news/crime-law/indictments-in-police-shooting-rare-convictions-ev/nftqK/

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241. "thanks - but the Constitution is a better source."
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259. "Do tell."
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213. "STOP LYING ABOUT THE LAW, BIN."
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http://www.constitution.org/uslaw/defunlaw.htm

Your Right of Defense Against Unlawful Arrest

“Citizens may resist unlawful arrest to the point of taking an arresting officer's life if necessary.” Plummer v. State, 136 Ind. 306. This premise was upheld by the Supreme Court of the United States in the case: John Bad Elk v. U.S., 177 U.S. 529. The Court stated: “Where the officer is killed in the course of the disorder which naturally accompanies an attempted arrest that is resisted, the law looks with very different eyes upon the transaction, when the officer had the right to make the arrest, from what it does if the officer had no right. What may be murder in the first case might be nothing more than manslaughter in the other, or the facts might show that no offense had been committed.”

“An arrest made with a defective warrant, or one issued without affidavit, or one that fails to allege a crime is within jurisdiction, and one who is being arrested, may resist arrest and break away. lf the arresting officer is killed by one who is so resisting, the killing will be no more than an involuntary manslaughter.” Housh v. People, 75 111. 491; reaffirmed and quoted in State v. Leach, 7 Conn. 452; State v. Gleason, 32 Kan. 245; Ballard v. State, 43 Ohio 349; State v Rousseau, 241 P. 2d 447; State v. Spaulding, 34 Minn. 3621.

“When a person, being without fault, is in a place where he has a right to be, is violently assaulted, he may, without retreating, repel by force, and if, in the reasonable exercise of his right of self defense, his assailant is killed, he is justified.” Runyan v. State, 57 Ind. 80; Miller v. State, 74 Ind. 1.

“These principles apply as well to an officer attempting to make an arrest, who abuses his authority and transcends the bounds thereof by the use of unnecessary force and violence, as they do to a private individual who unlawfully uses such force and violence.” Jones v. State, 26 Tex. App. I; Beaverts v. State, 4 Tex. App. 1 75; Skidmore v. State, 43 Tex. 93, 903.

“An illegal arrest is an assault and battery. The person so attempted to be restrained of his liberty has the same right to use force in defending himself as he would in repelling any other assault and battery.” (State v. Robinson, 145 ME. 77, 72 ATL. 260).

“Each person has the right to resist an unlawful arrest. In such a case, the person attempting the arrest stands in the position of a wrongdoer and may be resisted by the use of force, as in self- defense.” (State v. Mobley, 240 N.C. 476, 83 S.E. 2d 100).

“One may come to the aid of another being unlawfully arrested, just as he may where one is being assaulted, molested, raped or kidnapped. Thus it is not an offense to liberate one from the unlawful custody of an officer, even though he may have submitted to such custody, without resistance.” (Adams v. State, 121 Ga. 16, 48 S.E. 910).

“Story affirmed the right of self-defense by persons held illegally. In his own writings, he had admitted that ‘a situation could arise in which the checks-and-balances principle ceased to work and the various branches of government concurred in a gross usurpation.’ There would be no usual remedy by changing the law or passing an amendment to the Constitution, should the oppressed party be a minority. Story concluded, ‘If there be any remedy at all ... it is a remedy never provided for by human institutions.’ That was the ‘ultimate right of all human beings in extreme cases to resist oppression, and to apply force against ruinous injustice.’” (From Mutiny on the Amistad by Howard Jones, Oxford University Press, 1987, an account of the reading of the decision in the case by Justice Joseph Story of the Supreme Court.

As for grounds for arrest: “The carrying of arms in a quiet, peaceable, and orderly manner, concealed on or about the person, is not a breach of the peace. Nor does such an act of itself, lead to a breach of the peace.” (Wharton’s Criminal and Civil Procedure, 12th Ed., Vol.2: Judy v. Lashley, 5 W. Va. 628, 41 S.E. 197).

You are also within your rights not to answer any questions without a lawyer present, and if possible, to demand a video recording be made of the entire encounter that you or your lawyer keep as evidence, so that federal prosecutors can't get away with charging you with making false statements to a government investigator and testilying about what you said. See this article.

As a practical matter one should try to avoid relying on the above in an actual confrontation with law enforcement agents, who are likely not to know or care about any of it. Some recent courts have refused to follow these principles, and grand juries, controlled by prosecutors, have refused to indict officers who killed innocent people claiming the subject "resisted" or "looked like he might have a gun". Once dedicated to "protect and serve", far too many law enforcement officers have become brutal, lawless occupying military forces.

See also:

False arrest — Wikipedia article
The Common-Law Right to Resist, by "ExCop-LawStudent", May 5, 2013 — Makes some valid criticisms of the above article. He is correct that recent precedents and statutes do not support resistance to unlawful arrest, except where excessive force is used, but we regard those to themselves be unconstitutional, and thus null and void, as a matter of principle. Of course, people need to be aware that constitutional principle is not the practice in courts today, and perhaps be prudent about that.
The Right to Forcefully Resist Unlawful Arrest, John-Henry Hill, September 30, 2013.
The Right to Resist Unlawful Arrest, , Natural Resources Journal, Jan. 1967.
When the Right to Resist Becomes the "Duty to Submit", William N. Grigg, Pro Libertate, January 10, 2012

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214. "resisting arrest when police use excessive force:"
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http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/resisting-arrest-when-police-use-excessive-force.html



It’s rare that someone being placed under arrest has the right to forcefully resist. But in most states, if the arresting officer uses excessive force that could cause “great bodily harm,” the arrestee has the right to defend him or herself. That’s because most states hold that an officer’s use of excessive force amounts to assault or battery, which a victim has a right to defend against. (To learn about other scenarios in which defendants may be entitled to resist, see Resisting Arrest: Laws, Penalties, and Defense. Also see What to Do and Not Do When Arrested and Battery Against a Police Officer.)
Excessive Force

An officer’s use of force is “excessive” if it is likely to result in unjustifiable great bodily harm (serious injury). Most states consider whether a “reasonable person” under the circumstances would have believed that the officer’s use of force was likely to cause great physical harm (including death). If the answer is “yes”—if a reasonable person would have felt it necessary to resist in self-defense, and if that person used a reasonable degree of force when resisting, then the resistance is typically justified. But this is a very high standard to meet, such that courts hardly ever find that an arrestee’s forceful resistance was defensible.
How Much Force?

On the rare occasion that a court finds that an arrestee was entitled to resist excessive force, the determination shifts to whether the amount of force he or she used was appropriate. Although the precise rules vary by state, in general, the amount of force used to resist arrest must be proportional to the amount of excess force used by the arresting officer.
Exceptions to a Narrow Rule

The circumstances under which a person is justified in resisting excessively forceful arrest are rare, even rarer due to some important exceptions. States created these exceptions to discourage people from fighting with police. These exceptions include:

Abatement. If the officer stops using excessive force, then the arrestee must stop resisting.
Resistance that prolongs excessive force. If the person being arrested has reason to believe that, if he stops resisting, the officer will stop using excessive force, then he must stop resisting.
Resistance that causes excessive force. If the person being arrested did something to cause the officer to use excessive force in the first place, then she isn’t justified in resisting the arrest.

To illustrate how tricky the resistance issue can be, suppose that an officer pulls Jesse over for reckless driving. The officer gets out of his patrol car and orders Jesse to exit the vehicle and put his hands in the air. Jesse complies. The officer then tackles Jesse to the ground and repeatedly slams his head into the pavement. Under these circumstances, it would probably be reasonable for Jesse to resist the arrest—in some states, he may even be justified in using deadly force because of the threat to his life.

But if Jesse, rather than following the officer’s instructions, had charged at him, the analysis would be different. In that instance, he arguably provoked the officer’s violent response, in which case he wasn’t justified in resisting the unreasonably forceful arrest—he “caused” the officer’s use of force. However, if the officer had subdued Jesse but nevertheless continued to strike his head in the pavement, then Jesse may have been within his rights to resist.
Consult a Lawyer

The discussion above provides a general overview of the law on resisting arrest. Whether you are allowed to resist an arrest in any way depends on the facts of your case—and your jurisdiction. In some states, the fact that you used force and the amount of force you used might be justified, whereas in others one or both might not.

Ultimately, it’s rare that someone properly uses force in resisting arrest. If you face charges relating to an altercation with an officer, immediately seek the help of an experienced attorney. That lawyer should analyze any potential defenses and protect your rights.

by: Michael Tarleton

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250. "the very first line in this is its rare for this shit to work"
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So...what are you talking abt?

If police are afraid for their lives and kill...that defense is ac eotable consistently. Agreed?

If civilians killed police and were in fear for their lives, by your own little link, self defense rarely works

So what are you talking about?

  

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256. "complain about the application of the law."
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be outraged about the right thing.

fuck you.

  

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271. "kinda hard to do when im dead, dog."
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HEY COP STOP SHOOTIN MEEE rgghhhh xxxxxx


does it really matter?

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273. "we'll be lynched as soon as they find enough rope."
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so you only have a couple of weeks anyway.

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182. "I thought Van Jones was going to PPUNCH Don Lemon in the face"
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"America, stop turning our Court Houses of Justice into Dens for Justified Murderers."

  

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185. "why what happened"
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196. "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brhy8iF7Qjs <=what happened"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brhy8iF7Qjs

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209. "Don was mad EMO and Van handled it like a man."
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"America, stop turning our Court Houses of Justice into Dens for Justified Murderers."

  

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208. "MAN"
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i was thinking 'he got away with that shit with Kweli. Not today."

  

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276. "They both made good points and just saw different things around them."
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197. "Why Darren Wilson was never going to be indicted for killing Mike Brown...."
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http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2014/11/darren_wilson_was_never_going_to_be_indicted_for_killing_michael_brown_our.html

Justifying Homicide
Why Darren Wilson was never going to be indicted for killing Michael Brown.

By Jamelle Bouie

The first Ferguson protests had two slogans: “Hands up, don’t shoot”—referring to Michael Brown’s final actions before he was killed—and “Justice for Michael Brown.” And when you asked protesters what they meant by “justice,” they replied with a plea for accountability. In their minds, justice could only come with an indictment of Darren Wilson, the police officer who shot him. No, he probaby wouldn’t go to prison. But if nothing else, an indictment would show that Brown’s life mattered. That the lives of people like Brown matter. And that their communities deserve answers and explanations for police violence.

On Monday night, St. Louis County prosecutor Bob McCullough told Ferguson that after three months of deliberation, the 12 members of the grand jury had its decision: Darren Wilson would not be indicted. In his statement announcing the decision, McCullough explained that the grand jury considered five separate charges—ranging from manslaughter to first-degree murder—and that the jury was convinced by the available evidence that Wilson had reasonable grounds for shooting Brown, and wasn’t liable for a crime.

None of this was a surprise. It’s extremely rare for a police officer to face an indictment for a shooting, much less criminal punishment. “The FBI reported 410 justifiable homicides by law enforcement in 2012,” noted Talking Points Memo in an August story following the events in Ferguson, “The number of indictments appear to be minimal after a TPM review of available press reports.” And it’s not just shootings; earlier this year, Georgia police mistakenly raided a home and seriously injured a young child. Prosecutors convened a grand jury, and the grand jury voted against an indictment. “The drug investigation that led to these events was hurried, sloppy, and unfortunately not in accordance with the best practices and procedures,” wrote the grand jury in its decision. Still, no one from the police force was held accountable.


The simple fact is that the police can kill for almost any reason with little fear of criminal charges.
The truth is that the law gives wide berth to the police’s use of deadly force. Just two months before Brown was killed, the Supreme Court gave its ruling in Plumhoff v. Rickard, where the plaintiffs were suing after police officers ended a high speed chase by shooting 15 rounds into the car, killing the driver and a passenger. The court held that this wasn’t “excessive force” in violation of the Constitution, affirming years of deference to police departments. “It stands to reason,” wrote the justices in a 9–0 opinion, “that if police officers are justified in firing at a suspect in order to end a severe threat to public safety, the officers need not stop shooting until the threat has ended.”

Beyond this, there are the general standards for use of deadly force by police, which give wide latitude to officers who use their weapons. The Supreme Court allows police to use their weapons in two circumstances: To defend their lives and to stop an escaped felon. If Wilson believed that Brown was a felon—or committed a felonious offense—then he was justified under existing law. And if Wilson believed he was in danger of losing his life—a belief that only has to be “objectively reasonable,” not likely or even possible—then, again, he was justified under existing law.

When you add this climate of legal deference to the particular circumstances of the grand jury trial—including McCullough’s reputation for supporting police officers, and his decision to avoid a recommendation for charges—the non-indictment was almost inevitable. Barring something extraordinary, Wilson was going to walk free. The judicial system as we’ve constructed it just isn’t equipped—or even willing—to hold officers accountable for shootings and other offenses. Or put differently, the simple fact is that the police can kill for almost any reason with little fear of criminal charges.

Which is to say this: It would have been powerful to see charges filed against Darren Wilson. At the same time, actual justice for Michael Brown—a world in which young men like Michael Brown can’t be gunned down without consequences—won’t come from the criminal justice system. Our courts and juries aren’t impartial arbiters—they exist inside society, not outside of it—and they can only provide as much justice as society is willing to give.

Unfortunately, we don’t live in a society that gives dignity and respect to people like Michael Brown and John Crawford and Rekia Boyd. Instead, we’ve organized our country to deny it wherever possible, through negative stereotypes of criminality, through segregation and neglect, and through the spectacle we see in Ferguson and the greater St. Louis area, where police are empowered to terrorize without consequence, and residents are condemned and attacked when they try to resist.

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204. "St Louis County Prosecutor release all grand jusry evidence"
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http://qz.com/302421/see-for-yourself-this-is-the-evidence-the-ferguson-grand-jury-saw-before-making-its-decision/

A grand jury took three months to consider evidence in the shooting of Michael Brown, an unarmed black youth, in Ferguson, Missouri. They had to determine if there was probable cause to believe that Darren Wilson, a white police officer in the St. Louis suburb, had committed a crime when he shot and killed Brown during an altercation.

Ultimately, the grand jury decided not to indict Wilson. (Nine of 12 jurors would have had to charge him with a crime.) The evidence they considered was voluminous, and now that the trove has been released by the St. Louis County Prosecutor’s Office, you can see for yourself.

  

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236. "there are enough inconsistencies in Wilson's own statements that show..."
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he's definitely lying.

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211. "when black people riot over injustice they're savages "
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When white people riot over injustice they go down in the history books as martyrs and revolutionaries.

Revolts and riots sparked major pivitol points in American History. Nothing more American then fucking some shit up.

Not saying it's the solution... But I'm just saying.

  

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215. "i have nothing to say here. "
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218. "I Just felt like leaving this OLD School Rap gem. Heal Yourself! "
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6drAemArvM

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232. "RE: I Just felt like leaving this OLD School Rap gem. Heal Yourself! "
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>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6drAemArvM
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>"America, stop turning our Court Houses of Justice into Dens
>for Justified Murderers."

Wish current rappers would do something like this

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219. "No one better say shit about the troops protecting my freedoms"
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Unarmed Black people are hunted down in the streets in of America on a regular got damn basis, not just by police but by any white or off white person that wants to act a proxy for the police and there are no consequences. America is not interested in us as humans let alone Americans.

To all the people who think voting is the solution to state executions in committed in the streets, what are the people you voted for last election, midterm and the election before that doing now around this issue? Are they pushing legislation around the topic of police brutality and prosecutions locally or nationally? If not why did you vote for the ticket?
Everyone from the post master to the state senator should have to take a stance on black police murders before youll vote for them.

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221. "Absolutely agree "
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>Unarmed Black people are hunted down in the streets in of
>America on a regular got damn basis, not just by police but by
>any white or off white person that wants to act a proxy for
>the police and there are no consequences. America is not
>interested in us as humans let alone Americans.
>
>To all the people who think voting is the solution to state
>executions in committed in the streets, what are the people
>you voted for last election, midterm and the election before
>that doing now around this issue? Are they pushing legislation
>around the topic of police brutality and prosecutions locally
>or nationally? If not why did you vote for the ticket?
>Everyone from the post master to the state senator should have
>to take a stance on black police murders before youll vote for
>them.
>
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223. "Rand Paul is"
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> what are the people
>you voted for last election, midterm and the election before
>that doing now around this issue? Are they pushing legislation
>around the topic of police brutality and prosecutions locally
>or nationally?




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254. "you mean the guy who objected to the Civil Rights Act multiples times?"
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you mean the guy who hired Jack Hunter, who compared Lincoln to Hitler, as his media director?

you mean the guy who avoided a woman who was angry about the lack of immigration reform?

you mean the man who came to Howard University to talk about GOP ideas - from the 1800s - without mentioning the recent GOP history of stroking racial fears and stereotypes to win elections and disadvantage non-white people?

it's really easy to be pro-Rand Paul when you're not Black, Latino, or immigrant.

  

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281. "I'm not disputing that Rand Paul isn't a douche-bag at times"
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he is.

But he's also more in line w/ progressives than they'd like to admit - and in
terms of progressive politics (thwarting the military industrial complex, strengthening
civil liberties, addressing the drug on war and disproportionate criminalization/imprisonment
of black men, not allowing government to tell people who they should marry or what they can/can't smoke) - he's your guy.

so yea - he's a douche, but he happens to be a more progressive douche than the person you voted for.

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270. "Rand Paul can go to hell."
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264. "If all the people that "protested" actually voted things would be..."
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different.

Bob McCulloch has been St. Louis county prosecutor for 20 years and has a history of bias.

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224. "I'm just curious how much accountability you guys attribute to Mike Brow..."
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Personally, the travesty to me in all this is the way that it has been handled after the fact.

i.e.

Leaving his body in the street.
The actions/comments of the police chief.
Picking and choosing what "evidence" to release to the press
The DA being a wimp and not just making the decision on his own to not file charges.
The militarized response to the protests
The delay in making the grand jury announcement (waiting until 8pm CT)

But in terms of the actual incident itself, I was never convinced.

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225. "From the evidence of Wilson's injuries"
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there is not enough to prove he was in fear of his life. A man lay dead. That is enough for me. There is such thing as use of non-lethal force. It just seems that part is always forgotten in these instances...

so even if the young man was guilty of a crime, was the crime worth his life?

Aren't there courts and juries who are supposed to determine a death sentance?

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228. "he was on one that day."
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And the problem or issue was by the time he decided to surrender it was too late


Should it have been? Idk?
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231. "Never said that the boy deserved to die. I don't think that at all."
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But swinging on/tussling with a cop is a good way to escalate a situation. That's all.

He had opportunity to have it turn out differently and decided not to.

But no, he didn't deserve to lose his life.

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226. "i said that this morning..All he had to do was get out the street. "
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230. "he probably initiated the fight w/Wilson by reaching into the SUV."
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so he's accountable for that part.

and he may have stolen those cigarillos from the convenience store.

and he smoked weed.

so he's not a saint.

fuck you.

  

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234. "the other dude's account made more sense, with the cop hitting"
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mb with the door, getting pissed, and reaching out to yoke him up through the window, initiating the scuffle in the car.

the most baddass person i can conceive of would not instigate punching a cop in uniform, sitting inside of their cruiser. that shit is science fiction to me.

as is wilson's testimony which reads as hella cooked.


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235. "I think DW tried to get out of the car and MB blocked him."
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Ever since his friend made the statement that the door "ricocheted" of of MB, I was skeptical of how that went down.

Mike Brown didn't seem to be a stranger to throwing his weight around.

Looking at Darren Wilson, it's very possible MB wasn't intimidated (i.e. the reason why they didn't get out of the street to begin with).

I don't want to rehash the entire case, but like I said, I was skeptical from the start.

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237. "or that."
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honestly it doesn't matter to me even a little bit who started the altercation at the car and i shouldn't have entertained the question.

there's no lesson to be learned there that's not entirely obvious. but it makes some feel better if they can tell young niggers to stop fucking w/the police like that and then the police don't have to shoot them dead in the street like dogs. <-- i'm sure THAT is what McCullough meant when he repeated last night that we all need to take steps to prevent this kind of situation from reoccurring. i know he wasn't talking to the cops! that's for sure. anyway, if there's a lesson in that it's for the motherfucking police - b/c idiot teens will be idiot teens, they'll make bad decisions like getting aggy w/cops where they shouldn't. but the police are the PROFESSIONALS in those situations and they have the responsibility to act like professionals. we can lecture our kids about the 'right' thing to do all we want but everyday perfectly great kids and adults act against advice from their parents and others. it's to be expected. especially by police. and b/c they carry deadly weapons on them w/authorization they have a higher duty to ackrite - especially w/teens.

and that's why i don't give a damn what Mike Brown did to initiate the altercation w/Wilson. b/c whatever he did to start it, it was over after he ran from the SUV and b/c he was unarmed and Wilson was armed, i doubt i'd find it reasonable for Wilson to believe Brown posed a threat to his life or would cause great bodily harm to Wilson. i dunno if a trial jury would've found Wilson's belief reasonable but i believe there was enough there for the case to have gone to trial so a jury could make a finding on that issue.

  

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245. "^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^"
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the key to happiness is not being rich;
it's doing something arduous and
creating something of value and then
being able to reflect on the fruits of your labor

  

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246. "interesting how this is my position in the case of Tamir Rice..."
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and your position here.

I'm not saying you're wrong here.

Just saying.

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257. "Armed vs unarmed."
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fuck you.

  

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261. "Perceived threat vs. Perceived threat."
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262. "NOT THE SAME FUCKING CASE."
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back the fuck up.

and i'm not about to lay it out. if you don't see it, fuck it.

and let's make this our last communication.

at least it will be from my end.

fuck you.

  

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266. "Great, since this is the end for you, I can go on and tell you how..."
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this statement:

"but the police are the PROFESSIONALS in those situations and they have the responsibility to act like professionals. we can lecture our kids about the 'right' thing to do all we want but everyday perfectly great kids and adults act against advice from their parents and others. it's to be expected. especially by police. and b/c they carry deadly weapons on them w/authorization they have a higher duty to ackrite - especially w/teens."

makes you a hypocrite.

And you will have absolutely nothing to say in response.

Because yes, your'e right, there is a higher duty expected of the police as PROFESSIONALS. And part of that PROFESSIONALISM is acknowledging that you are dealing with a TWEEN CHILD and have the opportunity to influence a non-lethal outcome.

Because maybe, just maybe, it may not be necessary to KILL a TWEEN CHILD for making a move that is likely out of FEAR and NERVOUSNESS and lack of EXPERIENCE with dealing with police pointing GUNS at him.

So thank you, sit back, shut up, and accept that you just explained my point.

I appreciate it.


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242. "LOL. funny seeing you here."
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all other things aside.

if Darren Wilson's account is to be believed, we have to believe Mike Brown was suicidal.

reaching for a cops gun = suicide. no one does it.

running away from, then turning and rushing a cop from an incredible distance armed with nothing but your hands = suicide. no one does it.

being shot by, stopping, then continuing to charge the same cop who i shooting you = unquestionable suicide. there's no other explanation for this.

really, michael brown decided he wanted to die that day?

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244. "your trolling aside..."
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I never said I believed Darren Wilson wholeheartedly.

Most of the witness accounts provided have been biased on some level (including the officer).

So the truth is somewhere in the middle.

And part of that truth, I believe, is that Mike Brown was both flippant and aggressive towards the officer, which contributed to the escalation of the situation.

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251. "no, you just have a shitty barometer for logic and common sense"
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THE TRUTH IS SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE

no the truth is the truth.

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253. "you have a childish, black or white, this or that, view of the world..."
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which makes discussions with you worthless.

In the case of Mike Brown, not one witness reported 100% truth and not one reported 100% lie.

But you aren't mature enough to analyze information and gather accuracy vs. inaccuracy within an individual's statement.

So I will revert to treating you like the child that you are, cutie.

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255. "that doesn't put the truth in the middle"
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that's a stupid saying that has nothing to do with reality.

because you're a fucking idiot.

we can definitely tell who is lying.

but you can't interpret information

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263. "like I said, childish. It's cute."
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267. "I don't think he was this "gentle giant" that wouldn't hurt a fly but I...."
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also don't think he was a psycho with a deathwish that rushed a cop with a gun drawn on him.

I think the truth is somewhere in between, unfortunately we'll probably never know...

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268. "shhhh.. don't use phrases like "somewhere in between".. Rjcc doesn't"
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269. "^^a dumbass"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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239. "Mike Brown fucked up and thought"
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He could give in at the last minute and have rights.

We need to teach our kids they. Ant play with the law like that.

Go hard or go home.


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243. "Tim Wise as usual just ethered everything"
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http://www.alternet.org/most-white-people-america-are-completely-oblivious

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252. "He is usually problematic (privilege lens)"
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but he nailed it...indeed

"And while few of us would think to ridicule Jews for still harboring less than warm feelings for Germans some seventy years later—we would understand the lack of trust, the wariness, even the anger—we apparently find it hard to understand the same historically-embedded logic of black trepidation and contempt for law enforcement in this country."


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247. "Here's what I want ..."
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I want for any and all shootings of unarmed individuals and even armed police shootings on US soil to be handled solely by the Justice Department with federal grand juries and federal trials, not state. That would mean an expansion of the Justice department but there is no way that a state should be able to try itself in a court of law.
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277. "nice"
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but will that ever happen in my lifetime? when pigs fly.

  

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278. "I'm glad others see that Wilson's story doesn't add up"
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Officer Darren Wilson's story is unbelievable. Literally. http://www.vox.com/2014/11/25/7281165/darren-wilsons-story-side?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=vox&utm_content=article-share-top via @ezraklein

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279. "Darren Wilson: His conscience is clear and he'd do it again (link)"
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http://www.lovebscott.com/news/darren-wilson-says-his-conscience-is-clear-after-killing-mike-brown-that-hed-do-it-again-video

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283. "he feels justified"
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How can we dispute that?

I mean we do dispute it, but how can u change the mindset?
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280. "http://www.livememe.com/t339d8h.jpg"
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http://www.livememe.com/t339d8h.jpg

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282. "I'm so glad to see other states protesting as well"
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I've been emotional about last night, not sure why. I guess I feel that a lot of people have lost hope. And regardless of what happened with Mike Brown, the bigger issue is we are tired of hearing the same shirt as justification to take a life. Hopefully officers everywhere think harder before pulling the trigger on anyone. But we also have to be smart on how we deal with the police.

  

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286. "Killer Mike's powerful speech after hearing the verdict !"
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http://m.noisey.vice.com/en_uk/blog/killer-mike-interview-ferguson?utm_source=noiseytwitteruk



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287. ""What does justice look like?" -St. Louis City Treasurer Tishaura Jones"
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http://blkstlonline.com/opinions/what-does-justice-look-like%3F/

What does justice look like?
November 25, 2014
St. Louis City Treasurer Tishaura Jones

On November 24, 2014, St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Robert McCulloch announced that the grand jury voted not to indict Ferguson Police Office Darren Wilson in the shooting death of unarmed teenager Michael Brown. While the decision was surprising to some, to me, it was not.

While people close to the investigation told me that there wasn’t enough evidence to indict, I prayed for a glimmer of hope, that maybe the grand jury would see that there was probable cause (which is a low burden of proof) to indict. But, as we all know, police officers are held to a different standard when being investigated for cases that involve excessive force. According to Missouri Law section 563, officers are allowed to use deadly force “in effecting arrest or in preventing an escape from custody.” Simply put, it’s nearly impossible to indict a police officer, and there was never a chance in hell that Officer Wilson would have faced any criminal charges.

All along, I have reiterated the justice was not simply the indictment of Darren Wilson. Justice is more than that. Even if he were indicted, our community would have been subject to several additional months of trial proceedings, further pouring salt on our already open wound of racism and discrimination, wounds that never healed properly in the first place. Either way, the quest for justice does not end here.

So what does justice look like? Justice is dismantling and changing the systems that brought us to this moment. Justice is taking a serious look at the dysfunctional municipal court system that is funded on the backs of the poor, as revealed by the recent reports published by Arch City Defenders and Better Together. Justice is putting some teeth in the existing racial profiling law to hold police departments accountable for their years of dismal performance as revealed in the Missouri Attorney General’s annual report. Many municipal courts are the face of a government that many citizens no longer have faith in. State laws capping the amount of revenue municipal courts can bring into cities at 30 percent have been ignored. Justice is decreasing this to 10 percent and closing municipal courts that fail to respect citizens’ constitutional rights. Justice is wiping the slate clean for those who are victims of our municipal court system by forgiving the existing warrants and cases for misdemeanors that either causes people to lose their jobs or prevents them from seeking future employment.

Outside of municipal courts, we must also seek to improve the relationship between the police and all citizens. Justice is creating Civilian Review Boards that have power to hold police departments accountable to the citizens that they serve and protect. Justice is the possibility of bad officers losing their police certification for bad behavior instead of allowing them tojump from one department to the next. Justice is setting minimum standards for the existence of a municipality.

But justice should also be sought outside of the criminal justice system in our region. Justice is paying workers a living wage so they can take care of themselves and their families. Justice is safe and affordable housing. Justice is combining all 22 school districts into a single regional district so all children are given the same opportunity to succeed regardless of where they live. Justice is a new Metrolink line that connects residents in North and South Counties to the urban core. Justice is driving economic development to blighted areas north of Delmar. Justice is creating opportunities for families to build assets to save for the future of their children and emergencies instead of turning to predatory loan practices.

These suggestions merely scratch the surface. They are the low hanging fruit that we can address today to change our region for the better. They are the things that we must tackle today in order to keep history from repeating itself. These are the conditions that led to the unrest we have experienced since the tragic death of Michael Brown. Are we ready to change them?

Tishaura O. Jones is Treasurer of the City of St. Louis, formerAssistant Minority Floor Leader in the Missouri House of Representatives, and a founding member of Young Citizens Council of St. Louis.

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288. "Lawmaker wants Ferguson police force dissolved (swipe)"
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-lawmaker-ferguson-police-dissolved-20141204-story.html

Lawmaker wants Ferguson police force dissolved
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December 4, 2014, 9:34 PM

The U.S. congressman for Ferguson, Missouri, said on Thursday he hopes the Justice Department disbands the city's police department after the recent shooting of Michael Brown, and turns law enforcement duties over to St. Louis County Police.

Representative Lacy Clay, a Democrat, said he believes the Aug. 9 shooting of Brown by Ferguson officer Darren Wilson is only one example of the mostly white department's "oppressive" treatment of blacks.

The Justice Department is still conducting its own probes into Brown's death and the Ferguson police, despite a St. Louis County grand jury's decision not to prosecute Wilson.

"With the patterns and practice investigation, I would hope that the Ferguson Police Department would be dissolved and the duties and responsibilities of policing Ferguson would be turned over to the St. Louis County police," Clay said in an interview.

"They are working toward being a more diverse police force, St. Louis County is. And I think they have a little more professionalism, as well as training necessary to police diverse communities," Clay said.

The Congressional Black Caucus member whose district also includes St. Louis city, said county police have successfully taken over the duties of other troubled police forces in the region, including that of neighboring Jennings, Missouri, in 2011.

He said such small municipal forces are overly dependent on traffic ticket revenue and stop a high proportion of black motorists, adding: "They're balancing their budgets on the backs of poor people."

Clay had been highly critical of the "militarized" tactics of both St. Louis County and Ferguson police to protests that erupted in the days following Brown's shooting. Missouri Governor Jay Nixon later put the Missouri State Highway Patrol in charge of keeping the demonstrations peaceful.

In the wake of a New York grand jury's decision not to indict a white police officer in the choke-hold death of an unarmed black man, Clay called for changes to the way police-caused deaths are investigated.

Clay said he is "not comfortable" with prosecutors handling police shootings. "I am going to look into referring all police shootings to the U.S. Attorney."

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289. "RE: FERGUSON GRAND JURY ANNOUNCEMENT POST"
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