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"Poll question: Bobby Shmurda the day he signed to Epic Records"


  

          

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHFsciJcR1k

Poll result (18 votes)
The kid is just excited for the opportunity of a lifetime (1 votes)Vote
Too close to shuck and jive cooning (17 votes)Vote

  

  

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this made me sad.
Oct 27th 2014
1
It's hilarious but extremely awkward n ignorant
Oct 27th 2014
2
sad sad exploitation that he signed on for.
Oct 27th 2014
9
looks like he's performing *shrug*
Oct 27th 2014
3
I didn't watch it all but I ain't hear him spitting no bars B....
Oct 27th 2014
14
      he's doing what got him recognition in the first place
Oct 27th 2014
16
that made my soul shrink a little
Oct 27th 2014
4
it's bad when it's played on the radio, it's bad when performed live.
Oct 27th 2014
5
isn't this what happens at labels all the time?
Oct 27th 2014
6
they definitely applauded for him at the beginning
Oct 27th 2014
7
Yup. Lots of off the cuff performances
Oct 27th 2014
8
there's a lot here though
Oct 27th 2014
10
none of this changes that he's an artist performing for his label
Oct 27th 2014
69
people acting like they never heard blowjob in the limo stories
Oct 27th 2014
11
yep
Oct 27th 2014
38
underrated reply...
Oct 27th 2014
72
Right.
Oct 27th 2014
78
lol this gotdamb coon
Oct 27th 2014
12
aye someone loop the 1st 5 seconds
Oct 27th 2014
15
Pretty much all labels do this as I understand it......
Oct 27th 2014
13
imo its not so much about having the execs there
Oct 27th 2014
17
      umm... it's been that way for a while now.
Oct 27th 2014
83
the controversial thing to me is that these ppl are NOT his target
Oct 27th 2014
18
yep. it makes me wish (even if i don't get the music)
Oct 27th 2014
23
pretty much
Oct 27th 2014
56
It's cooning but he is too
Oct 27th 2014
19
^
Oct 27th 2014
34
i lasted 40 seconds and couldn't watch the rest
Oct 27th 2014
20
yes.
Oct 27th 2014
22
this.
Oct 27th 2014
24
dude signed to a major...it is what it is
Oct 27th 2014
70
^^^
Oct 27th 2014
85
pretty much
Oct 27th 2014
90
i just don't like the aping of drill music - niggas dying man.
Oct 27th 2014
21
why he lip syncing though?
Oct 27th 2014
25
As someone who sees a bunch of live shows, this shit is getting WORSE
Oct 27th 2014
26
      shole is.
Oct 27th 2014
29
           the only thing they really wntd to see were his niggerish rap hands.
Oct 27th 2014
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                and that dance.
Oct 27th 2014
39
NEWS FLASH
Oct 27th 2014
27
I'm so glad I'm not a black person.
Oct 27th 2014
28
LOL
Oct 27th 2014
30
FWIW I'm serious, but I mean that with no hate or ill will
Oct 27th 2014
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      ^ checked whiteness.
Oct 27th 2014
32
its pretty awesome
Oct 27th 2014
35
i'm pretty sure only a certain section of the black population
Oct 27th 2014
36
context is important.
Oct 27th 2014
45
^^
Oct 27th 2014
82
it would be kind of awesome if white people were this conscientious
Oct 27th 2014
41
being black isnt difficult for me
Oct 27th 2014
43
bro, you must've aced your 'race theory' class in undergrad.
Oct 27th 2014
59
My lord.
Oct 27th 2014
79
that sig works with every comment
Oct 27th 2014
80
lmao
Oct 27th 2014
110
Lol.. most non-black folks don't. Just wanna claim our creations
Oct 28th 2014
118
cringe
Oct 27th 2014
33
White folx laughing at our foolishness
Oct 27th 2014
40
i expect that the white pop starlet flavor of the month
Oct 27th 2014
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      agreed.
Oct 27th 2014
46
      i thikn the difference between him and a Taylor swift
Oct 27th 2014
47
      so the difference is w/us and not them.
Oct 27th 2014
52
           but (most) white acts are not similarly situated
Oct 27th 2014
57
                that's the baggage i mentioned, player.
Oct 27th 2014
60
                     is there something of an implied social contract at work?
Oct 27th 2014
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                     yeah. some ppl call acts like him sell outs.
Oct 27th 2014
63
                     i think "substantial segment" may be the problem
Oct 27th 2014
65
                     word. i took similarly situated too literally.
Oct 27th 2014
64
      Just sit this one out..
Oct 27th 2014
50
the shmoney is ruined for me, now. thanks again, okp.
Oct 27th 2014
44
Didnt Kanye dance & rap on a table for white ppl??....eww @ respectabili...
Oct 27th 2014
48
I think Bazaar Royale scream-sang to a room full of execs
Oct 27th 2014
49
1) respectability politics is the dumbest catchphrase in recent history
Oct 27th 2014
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1) It's not a catchphrase, it was an actual tactic in the modern CRM.
Oct 27th 2014
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      by catchphrase I mean people started using it and wont stop.
Oct 27th 2014
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facebook performance
Oct 27th 2014
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it's not even about the music itself
Oct 27th 2014
76
      if he was dancing and singing "kill yt"
Oct 27th 2014
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performing at Facebook =/= cooning at a record label
Oct 27th 2014
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RE: Bobby Shmurda the day he signed to Epic Records
Oct 27th 2014
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so it crossed over?
Oct 27th 2014
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      RE: so it crossed over?
Oct 27th 2014
107
i wonder what onyx's label signing looked like.
Oct 27th 2014
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RE: i wonder what onyx's label signing looked like.
Oct 27th 2014
55
here's an animated re-enactment:
Oct 27th 2014
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I made it through about a goo 10 random sec.. HECK NO!
Oct 27th 2014
67
man this shit hilarious
Oct 27th 2014
68
Industry rule #4080.....
Oct 27th 2014
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Looks like SXSW
Oct 27th 2014
74
...was he having a stroke?
Oct 27th 2014
75
LOFL
Oct 27th 2014
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I love it.
Oct 27th 2014
77
The optics of this looks all wrong IMHOP.
Oct 27th 2014
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This is typical
Oct 27th 2014
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lmao :(
Oct 27th 2014
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http://media0.giphy.com/media/CZcoGp0eXLCH6/giphy.gif
Oct 27th 2014
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This GIF is gold. LMAO.
Oct 27th 2014
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HAHAHAHAHAHHA
Oct 27th 2014
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GOAT gif!
Oct 27th 2014
93
A+ Posting
Oct 27th 2014
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LOL
Oct 27th 2014
96
LMA... damn
Oct 27th 2014
99
I tried watching again...the dynamics is just off in that room
Oct 27th 2014
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We didn't make it
Oct 27th 2014
95
really y'all beyond all the racial politics WTF he doin'
Oct 27th 2014
100
Why cant a black man be allowed to be an embarrassment infront of whites...
Oct 27th 2014
101
RE: Why cant a black man be allowed to be an embarrassment infront of wh...
Oct 27th 2014
102
fully shrugging shoulders over here bro
Oct 27th 2014
105
3 things...
Oct 27th 2014
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RE: 3 things...
Oct 27th 2014
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      personally...
Oct 27th 2014
109
           he did perform a song other than hot nigga
Oct 27th 2014
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                link?
Oct 27th 2014
112
                     its in the original post, breh.
Oct 27th 2014
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                          he shouldn't even have touched "hot nigga" at that juncture.
Oct 27th 2014
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                               his 15 minutes are winding down
Oct 27th 2014
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                               RE: his 15 minutes are winding down
Oct 28th 2014
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                                    soulja boy was also self made and produces his own stuff
Oct 28th 2014
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                                         RE: soulja boy was also self made and produces his own stuff
Oct 28th 2014
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                               why wouldn't he perform the song that got him there in the first place?
Oct 28th 2014
116
                                    I dont get it.
Oct 28th 2014
120
                                    its def a dont act up directly in front of white ppl thing
Oct 28th 2014
125
So uncomfortable watching this in portrait instead of landscape
Oct 27th 2014
106
I love it
Oct 28th 2014
119
The response really speaks to the state of mainstream rap music...
Oct 28th 2014
121
agreed.
Oct 28th 2014
123
what if you just like the beat?
Oct 28th 2014
124
it could be looked at as two separate issues tho...
Oct 28th 2014
126
looks like a scene from black-ish
Oct 28th 2014
127
Babyface just broke his keyboard
Oct 29th 2014
129
He was NINETEEN when he got signed
Dec 24th 2014
130
They probably had NO IDEA he was living his lyrics, like ZERO IDEA.
Dec 24th 2014
131
i'm sure they have a Ray Donovan on the team to vet their artist
Dec 24th 2014
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this post shows how much baggage
Dec 24th 2014
133
No talk abt him/GS9 getting arrested...abt a week ago?
Dec 25th 2014
134
RE: No talk abt him/GS9 getting arrested...abt a week ago?
Dec 25th 2014
135
      Thanks. Got links to your thoughts on Black Measiah? Lol
Dec 26th 2014
136
           maxxx said 'Another Life' is a jam.
Dec 26th 2014
137

dapitts08
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1. "this made me sad."
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the key to happiness is not being rich;
it's doing something arduous and
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2. "It's hilarious but extremely awkward n ignorant"
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I laughed at most of it, especially when he jumped on the table. And you can tell the audience was judging the FUCK outta him the while time.

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9. "sad sad exploitation that he signed on for."
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Hope he's saving money and/or following 50's example.

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3. "looks like he's performing *shrug*"
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Mon Oct-27-14 08:55 AM by SHAstayhighalways

  

          

i got the shit on mute cuz i'm listening to music

watched/listened off mute. apparently he WAS performing and i honestly don't get why people's souls are cringing or whatever.

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14. "I didn't watch it all but I ain't hear him spitting no bars B...."
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that lil dude was literally just jumping around just now :-/


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16. "he's doing what got him recognition in the first place"
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he's not really rapping but he's dancing and acting the shit out
some of the verses being played are actually rowdy rebel rapping and not him.
but yea i don't see the issue *shrug*

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4. "that made my soul shrink a little"
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i couldn't make it through the whole thing.

  

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5. "it's bad when it's played on the radio, it's bad when performed live."
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no difference here.

how can you cringe at this, but rock-out with no abandon every other time?

  

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6. "isn't this what happens at labels all the time?"
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Mon Oct-27-14 08:57 AM by gumz

  

          

like when they're listening to the record an artist handed in or whatever...dont they basically perform the songs to board rooms? 'least that's how i thought it went down. he's just doing what he would do on stage. would be weird if he was just sitting there listening to it with them.

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7. "they definitely applauded for him at the beginning"
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they're all definitely seated in a way that suggests they asked him to perform
he got on the table big fucking deal

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8. "Yup. Lots of off the cuff performances"
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you're trying to sell yourself to a bunch of assholes who are going to have to spend cash/actually give a fuck who you are or else you end up in the major label graveyard where too many dope artists reside.

GA-RUN-TEE there's been artists who've done MUCH worse trying to win record label exec's over. There's been so many infamous stories outside of rap; rock etc...of the shenanigans they pull trying to get signed and impress motherfuckers.

  

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10. "there's a lot here though"
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- "ignorant" kid gets famous off of Vine

- signed arguably because he dances, not for his musical talent

- leaked video after his buzz has probably maxed out, with him doing even more animated dancing to prove his worth to fitewolks

  

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69. "none of this changes that he's an artist performing for his label"
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it's part of being in the music industry. if he was playing acoustic guitar and singing would it still be cooning? this is what he does. he raps and dances.

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11. "people acting like they never heard blowjob in the limo stories"
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I'm talking about execs lol

  

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38. "yep"
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This is why I like making music I'd be proud of and not sell my soul to get a deal.

This is also why I'm not signed yet.
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72. "underrated reply..."
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78. "Right."
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12. "lol this gotdamb coon"
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but im banned tho.
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15. "aye someone loop the 1st 5 seconds"
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to this song

http://youtu.be/4kj6wZR6ouU



but im banned tho.
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13. "Pretty much all labels do this as I understand it......"
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I mean, there's a story of L.A. Reid having Usher perform for the label, and he brought all of the women that worked there into the board room to watch him.

Still..........

I couldn't watch that.

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17. "imo its not so much about having the execs there"
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which is pretty normal

for me it was more about looking at their reactions

you could tell most were silently judging him

for me it was a visual of how much the major labels no longer care about the actual music

the key to happiness is not being rich;
it's doing something arduous and
creating something of value and then
being able to reflect on the fruits of your labor

  

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83. "umm... it's been that way for a while now. "
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execs only care about the money...

if they cared about the music we would see more live acts and more sangers instead of lip syncing

  

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18. "the controversial thing to me is that these ppl are NOT his target"
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audience... these white ppls aint gonna be ridin around pumpin bobby shmurda in the ride. they applaudin this nigga because they think he gonna make them some bread, which remains to be seen. but to hear all the n-word and gun raps bein thrown around in front of THIS group of ppl is whats bugged out...its like a visualization of the pimp game.

  

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23. "yep. it makes me wish (even if i don't get the music)"
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>its like a visualization of the pimp game.

that him and chief kief created a collective and put out their sh*t independently

even if i am not a fan of the music

the tools are out there to do it now

the key to happiness is not being rich;
it's doing something arduous and
creating something of value and then
being able to reflect on the fruits of your labor

  

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56. "pretty much"
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19. "It's cooning but he is too"
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Young to know that. I'm more sad at the adults making excuses.

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34. "^"
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20. "i lasted 40 seconds and couldn't watch the rest"
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Mon Oct-27-14 09:19 AM by woe.is.me.

  

          

it's not so much the way he's behaving, nothing wrong with that.
it's that the people around him clearly had no actual enthusiasm/interest in him as a performer/artist.
(not entirely accurate, since he got signed...but you can tell they didn't FEEL him)
it makes the whole thing just look embarrassing for everyone involved.

he is just a commodity to them and very happy to be one.

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22. "yes."
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fuck you.

  

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24. "this."
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the key to happiness is not being rich;
it's doing something arduous and
creating something of value and then
being able to reflect on the fruits of your labor

  

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70. "dude signed to a major...it is what it is"
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all your favorite rappers/singers/rockers...etc are doing the same thing to get those major label checks

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85. "^^^"
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90. "pretty much"
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21. "i just don't like the aping of drill music - niggas dying man."
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screamin' mothafuck a 12 /
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25. "why he lip syncing though?"
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they couldn't find an instrumental and a mic for homie to rock that shit live?

fuck you.

  

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26. "As someone who sees a bunch of live shows, this shit is getting WORSE"
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>they couldn't find an instrumental and a mic for homie to
>rock that shit live?

I saw at least a half dozen different hip-hop acts in the last few weeks, not one were rapping over instrumentals.

  

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29. "shole is."
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and like...this is the record label's office. if they couldn't cue up a promotional/instrumental edit of that track then can't nobody do it.

damn.

fuck you.

  

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37. "the only thing they really wntd to see were his niggerish rap hands."
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39. "and that dance."
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fuck you.

  

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27. "NEWS FLASH"
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record labels ain't shit.

www.royallegacy.org

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28. "I'm so glad I'm not a black person."
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Am I too black? Am I not black enough? Am I being too black around white people? Am I not being black enough around white people? Are these white people viewing my blackness as a novelty? Am I embracing these white people viewing my blackness as a novelty because I'm getting paid for it? Does that make me less black? Am I a sellout?

All of these questions would make it hard as fuck to get out of bed day in and day out, and that's without consideration of systemic racism, police brutality, pay gaps, and the myriad of other concerns.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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30. "LOL"
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fuck you.

  

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31. "FWIW I'm serious, but I mean that with no hate or ill will"
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whatsoever.

Even still, maybe that's a racist sentiment. So it goes.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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32. "^ checked whiteness."
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J/K

i saw no racism, just comedy. and truth.

fuck you.

  

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35. "its pretty awesome"
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+ for all the reasons you've mentioned

esp. when you look back at all the shit folks (relatives / community) before you have been able to endure and accomplish in spite of it all.

you don't have to look very far for strength. at all.

but i feel u. white privilege do be workin'.

would be nice to see the cops & tip my hat instead of hyperventilating.

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36. "i'm pretty sure only a certain section of the black population"
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deals with these questions. most black people could give a shit less about how their 'blackness' may or may not offend others. that makes a lot of blacks within that
'certain section' uncomfortable at times.

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45. "context is important."
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thanks, i didn't really consider that as much as i should have.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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82. "^^"
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***
I'm tryna be better off, not better than...

  

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41. "it would be kind of awesome if white people were this conscientious"
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about their whiteness

but by and large they don't have to be, so they're not

  

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43. "being black isnt difficult for me"
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sure I may not get a job or I'll feel the whiteness from a few looks at my local supermarket (my neighborhood is mostly white/asian)

but I've been made to feel "black" maybe once or twice a year (being stopped by police for jaywalking/random white woman at SXSW asking if I was selling weed)

  

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59. "bro, you must've aced your 'race theory' class in undergrad."
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79. "My lord."
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i'm out.
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80. "that sig works with every comment"
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November 8th, 2005 The greatest night in the history of GD!

  

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110. "lmao"
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http://youtu.be/5o37GORoKUQ

#htpw

  

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118. "Lol.. most non-black folks don't. Just wanna claim our creations"
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See: Rock music, the light bulb, the cotton gin, the phonetic alphabet, etc

If they can't claim it, it's deemed evil or the blame for ills of the world until they CAN claim it
(refer to the White Citizens Council's warning to stay away from rock music and your own sig, even).



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33. "cringe"
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______________________________

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40. "White folx laughing at our foolishness"
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Get paid off his ass and drop him like they did the rest.

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42. "i expect that the white pop starlet flavor of the month"
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gets very similar treatment.

and the people in the room have about the same level of bored dismissiveness.

from my knowledge of the entertainment business (and by that i mean watching entourage) i imagine just about all of them have work they'd rather be doing, but have to be in that room to put on a show for the flavor of the day client signing.

i'm not saying the people in that room aren't racist exploitationists, but i don't think this video alone is very good evidence of that.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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46. "agreed."
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fuck you.

  

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47. "i thikn the difference between him and a Taylor swift"
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in the same situation, is that her content does not explicitly denigrate white culture, or make light of real/serious issues that affect lives in the white community.

not saying you're wrong, just saying there are layers to this shit where (some) black entertainers are involved.

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52. "so the difference is w/us and not them."
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the difference is we carry baggage that makes us view their reaction to Shmurda through a different lens than we'd view their reaction to a similarly-situated white act.

fuck you.

  

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57. "but (most) white acts are not similarly situated"
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the crack epidemic didn't affect the white community, by and large,
so a white starlet singing about crack selling (fictional or otherwise) doesn't hit home in the same ways.

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60. "that's the baggage i mentioned, player."
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so you agree - we'd view a similarly-situated white pop act (one who rose to stardom via Vine while displaying questionable talent and is clearly to be marketed as a flash-in-the-pan to take advantage of a current fad in popular music) differently b/c of what we bring w/us to the viewing (knowledge about the happenings in our community and hand-wringing about entertainment's impact on it).

fuck you.

  

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62. "is there something of an implied social contract at work?"
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to where at least some substantial segment of "the black community" finds that Bobby Shmurda (and most black entertainers at large) trade on "the black experience" and take advantage of (if not exploit) that experience, and in doing so obligate themselves to a certain standard for that experience?

Is that too simplistic?

I'm asking all this stuff in earnest, I find the differences in the pressures black entertainers face from white people/black people confusing and fascinating.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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63. "yeah. some ppl call acts like him sell outs."
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fuck you.

  

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65. "i think "substantial segment" may be the problem"
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based on popular culture/radio, the vast majority of black people DON'T seem to care about this. but your larger point stands, yeah.

if black people as a whole cared about holding the radio accountable for its depiction of the black experience, pop music wouldn't be what it is today.
but that's another post for another bitter old man.

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64. "word. i took similarly situated too literally."
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50. "Just sit this one out.."
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There's really nothing for u to gain in arguing this on here.




but im banned tho.
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44. "the shmoney is ruined for me, now. thanks again, okp."
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48. "Didnt Kanye dance & rap on a table for white ppl??....eww @ respectabili..."
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nm

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49. "I think Bazaar Royale scream-sang to a room full of execs"
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54. "1) respectability politics is the dumbest catchphrase in recent history"
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2) kanye has always exercised control over his own career and made his feelings clear on corporate interests clashing with his art

  

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61. "1) It's not a catchphrase, it was an actual tactic in the modern CRM."
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2) How much control does he have when he is very vocal about white elites keeping him out of spaces he wishes to be a participant in??

3) Did Kanye dance & rap on a table in front of whites & was he called a coon for it?...This was years ago so my recollection could be off.

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66. "by catchphrase I mean people started using it and wont stop."
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you cant wear a doorag to work, get reprimanded and blame it on respectability politics. there's a way we have to conduct ourselves to get ahead in this society, but I digress

as for Kanye, his dancing on tables was a part of his "passionate" character. there's a difference between that and an Amos & Andy routine

  

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73. "facebook performance"
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but he was also rapping lyrics to "I am a God" and "New Slaves"

lil different but it's not that serious.

All these rappers have to "perform" for execs and if the music is shitty (to us) we will scream coon train.

  

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76. "it's not even about the music itself"
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>All these rappers have to "perform" for execs and if the music
>is shitty (to us) we will scream coon train.

Take Stalley for example, I havent heard a song of his that's blown me away. he could get on a conference table doing his thing and it wouldnt be near cooning

it's very much a kid (him being dark doesnt help matters) dancing for white people's affection that people find troubling, if you dont get it then so be it

  

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87. "if he was dancing and singing "kill yt" "
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you wouldn't have a problem...

it's the song...

singers and dancers... well, they tend to.... you know, sing and dance.

  

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104. "performing at Facebook =/= cooning at a record label"
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Try again

  

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51. "RE: Bobby Shmurda the day he signed to Epic Records"
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It's typical to do performances.. all the time..

Label

Print

MTV

Your often in an office "selling your wares"

If he was selling a fucking "foreman grill" he'd be doing the same thing. If he had a guitar and talent you wouldn't be saying this.. That said... someone needs to get a hold of this kid and give him a safer hit or drop him

I hate playing his record out btw... such a cringeworthy tune for multicultural hip hop crowds..

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97. "so it crossed over?"
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I was at mostly older Black and Latino spot a while ago in Hollywood and "it fit", but I could def see that record being mad awkward in a multirace (read mostly white crowd)

by the way where do you spin in LA bro (and what do you spin)

  

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107. "RE: so it crossed over?"
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Lock & Key.. The Virgil.. No Vacancy.. smaller shit that turns up llke the bigger clubs but more bar-ish.. cooler college vibes I guess

it is mad awkward to play any record that says nigga that much amongst any majority non black crowd.

The other werid thing is .. its not like a "hit song" with memorable parts.. people basically awkwardly dance until the "lopped vine" drops then they go crazy then they are done..

I might make a like 1.5 min version of it.. starting closer to that part

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53. "i wonder what onyx's label signing looked like. "
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55. "RE: i wonder what onyx's label signing looked like. "
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Probably so. Glad I didn't have to witness it.

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58. "here's an animated re-enactment:"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZI_aEalijE

fuck you.

  

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67. "I made it through about a goo 10 random sec.. HECK NO!"
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68. "man this shit hilarious"
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71. "Industry rule #4080....."
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74. "Looks like SXSW"
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The performer going all out for a dead audience.

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75. "...was he having a stroke?"
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98. "LOFL"
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77. "I love it."
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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81. "The optics of this looks all wrong IMHOP. "
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>Leaked video
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHFsciJcR1k


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84. "This is typical"
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Funny my cousin managed an artist that he got signed to you guessed it Epic records back in the late 90s. He told me about how much he got into the performance in this conference room and hopped on the table. He got signed but got dropped before he ever put out an album. Wonder if there's any correlation...

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86. "lmao :("
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88. "http://media0.giphy.com/media/CZcoGp0eXLCH6/giphy.gif"
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http://media0.giphy.com/media/CZcoGp0eXLCH6/giphy.gif

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91. "This GIF is gold. LMAO."
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men are so simple, and so subject to present necessities, that he who seeks to deceive will always find someone who will allow himself to be deceived. (c)Niccol Machiavelli

  

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92. "HAHAHAHAHAHHA"
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Hilarious!

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93. "GOAT gif!"
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Dude, I have been looking for that gif forever!

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94. "A+ Posting "
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99. "LMA... damn"
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89. "I tried watching again...the dynamics is just off in that room"
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the whole setup is too bizarre.
i am sure they did not set out to do a step and fetch routine.
but i'll be damned if that did not come off coony.

if he threw a watermelon slice in the air and caught it with his mouth, it would flow with the energy in that room.

at least hand him a mic and let him pretend he's doing something.
eff it, hand him a hair brush or a bottle of water. anything to make it real.

p.s. the boardroom looks a little low budget too.

  

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95. "We didn't make it "
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100. "really y'all beyond all the racial politics WTF he doin'"
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i mean, i can't stop laughin at how ridiculous the "performance is"

  

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101. "Why cant a black man be allowed to be an embarrassment infront of whites..."
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Something about a black man embarrassing themselves infront of whites makes us feel some type of way. If we changed up any of the variables, we wouldn't care. If it was a Hispanic rapper, so what. If the group of people were black, we wouldn't care.

Why cant we shrug our shoulders to this?

  

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102. "RE: Why cant a black man be allowed to be an embarrassment infront of wh..."
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>Why cant we shrug our shoulders to this?
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'cause some of us know they ain't looking for the next D'angelo or Erykah - they looking to promote........sad diminishing returns of past caricatures

  

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105. "fully shrugging shoulders over here bro"
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I thought this was gonna be way worse from reading the replies


Just looks like a teenager doing his high school lunch period performance

And ppl sitting around the table acting oblivious/disconnected/like bloodsuckers, which is not unlike the reactions I see in fitewolks in general


My blackness is not impacted in any way by a Bobby shmurda conf room audition





But in general I don't claim foolishness anyway.
I celebrate "our" wins
But if u fail, that's on u. No such thing as 1 person's actions "making us look bad"
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103. "3 things..."
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1) it will be interesting to see if this video ever finds it's way to WSHH as some of the people who decide what gets posted on WSHH and what doesn't are in that room.

2) i highly suspect this video's original upload will be pulled with-in the next 72 hours.

3) bobby schmurda won't be signed to epic as soon as 2016.

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108. "RE: 3 things..."
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this is also what happens when people hear years of.. yo he "JUMPED ON THE TABLE" then everyone loved him..

Like he was somehow thinking that if he just put effort into lip syncing that he could somehow connect his "star power" over his murder "kill-a-nigga" raps

People gotta realize when Kanye did that shit... he had JESUS WALKS!!

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109. "personally..."
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i would have advised him to perform a song OTHER than "hot nigga".

between the lip-syncing/dancing/performing of his one hit that was popular LAST QUARTER - i would hope that some of the people in that room were smart enough to have buyers remorse.

congratulations, you just signed an act that doesn't have half the following/material/cachet of chief keef (who was a major label failure and was dropped from his deal the very day this video was uploaded).

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111. "he did perform a song other than hot nigga"
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112. "link?"
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<-- never forget the 2000's.

  

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113. "its in the original post, breh. "
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after hot nigga goes off he performs rowdy rebel's 'computers' on which he has a feature
but he lip syncs rowdy rebels verses as well

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114. "he shouldn't even have touched "hot nigga" at that juncture."
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they're already looking at him like a one hit wonder.

the fact the other song he performed wasn't even his song is just pathetic.

i wonder if his "deal" is only for a 14 day pay period or something.

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115. "his 15 minutes are winding down"
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hopefully once the clock runs out everyone will calm down.

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117. "RE: his 15 minutes are winding down"
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Souljah boy had one record when he did his deal as well... yes it was WAY more accessible (also arguably way more subversive) as pop songs go.. but it was one..

He was able to get in there and make souljah girl for radio and donk for the hood...

Shmurda''s success is gonna be based on whether Sha money can find a hit to plug verses in...

Would be crazy if they got Meghan trainor to give him one.. (she isnt ruining her rep like that tho)

Soujah signed to certified hit makers when he did his deal... mr collipark.. 3h (a&r) was coming off daddy yankee.. and polow da don gave him one...

thats the kinda help he needs

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122. "soulja boy was also self made and produces his own stuff "
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im not saying bobby shmurda cant find a way to survive
but i don't see him being everywhere like he is right now for long
and i actually like hot nigga
rowdy rebel might be the one to save them
but i dont see bobby shmurda doing superman numbers
hes already complaining about money his second single bobby bitch
isnt catching
at most he will go the way of uncle murda
signed yet relegated to putting out mixtapes.
soulja boy had like 3 songs popping without a label
before super man hit.
i wouldnt compare the two
both youtube sensations but one went viral off one vid
while another had built up an audience for a few years then
blew up.

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128. "RE: soulja boy was also self made and produces his own stuff "
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Agreed..

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116. "why wouldn't he perform the song that got him there in the first place?"
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Yall acting like he's at the Apollo or something lol

I always assumed that stuff like this happened all the time at record labels. It's that whole "don't act up in front of white people" thing again I guess

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120. "I dont get it. "
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I dont like the music but this is what rappers do for majors

  

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125. "its def a dont act up directly in front of white ppl thing"
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everything he did in that boardroom we have all seen him do already lol

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106. "So uncomfortable watching this in portrait instead of landscape"
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Obama has to do something about this.

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119. "I love it"
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dude is about to get rich of the fact that he wasn't too cool to bust out the old uncle dance in a moment of joy.

He wasn't doing anything in that room he wouldn't do in front of his boys.
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121. "The response really speaks to the state of mainstream rap music..."
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Some of us hate ALL this mainstream stuff they push and market to our children,
but there are those of us who think it's ok as long as it's not in front of nicely dresssed
white folks.

Either it's some bullshit or it's not.

If you're accepting of it, at all, then be fully accepting of it. If it's bullshit in front of white folks,
then it's bullshit all the time, no?
For instance, I say things about how white supremacy functions as system in america,
and alotta folks don't want me to say this in front of white people, because it makes them
uncomfortable. But to hell with that, because it's the truth. It's something I believe in,
and facts that I stand on.

However, you look at the themes in this music, and ask yourself if these are themes
that you wish to stand by. Should we be standing by the will to talk about destroying
ourselves, our communities, devaluing ourselves and our women, etc?
THIS is why it's considered cooning, and it's cooning whether he does it for us or for white folks.
The real problem is that some of yall are fine with this in any space at all.
And miss me with that "it's fiction" crap, because like I always say, too many kids are
living by and emulating these words to rely on that cop-out. Throughout that lil period
where Chiraq was all in the news, the main theme running through the music was that
they're REAL and don't just rap about it... and that "realness" has been a thing is rap
for some time now, since the late 80s, even.


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123. "agreed."
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I like the song but if you feel weird playing it as a dj in front of "multi cultural" audiences...maybe that's saying something

  

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MiracleRic
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124. "what if you just like the beat?"
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bc i agree with a lot of what you said...but it's very all or nothing and i don't think most people are like that

but

a.) i cant understand that nigga

b.) i think he's garbage

c.) the beat, the dance, and "about a week ago" are the only likable things about it

but with all that being said...the visual in the OP is jarring...it shouldn't be but it is...u don't get more awkward than all of that

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126. "it could be looked at as two separate issues tho..."
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I don't want that shit played in front young black kids because its a bad influence and nothing good can really come of it

I don't want it played in front of white ppl because it puts our ignorance on full display and I don't want our dirty laundry dissected by the man.

I kinda equate it to the whole n-word issue. me personally, I say nigga sometimes. but I don't say it in front of white folks, because its something that I use around my ppl and not even all of black people, just those im comfortable with. is using "nigga" around blacks controversial and questionable? certainly...but using it around whites raises a whole different set of issues and questions.

  

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127. "looks like a scene from black-ish"
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129. "Babyface just broke his keyboard"
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<==Hawtastic.

  

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130. "He was NINETEEN when he got signed"
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a very immature 19
cut him some slack

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131. "They probably had NO IDEA he was living his lyrics, like ZERO IDEA."
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132. "i'm sure they have a Ray Donovan on the team to vet their artist"
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can't have no chomos signed to your label

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MiracleRic
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133. "this post shows how much baggage"
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and shame some of us carry around

and how much we really want the rest of nigga town to carry it around the same way we do

this is one of those times where being aware of shit only further restricts us...

we want certain things to be weeded out the culture...and maybe some of it should be...

it's like a small group of "enlightened" niggas and sympathetic others with too little cultural or capital influence stuck between racist/apathetic others and "uncooperative" niggas

some of us blame yt for both (their racist, privileged, or apathetic selves and for crippling the uncooperative blacks systemically)

some of us blame us for not policing our own culture is if that's enough to change that other piece of bread in this shitty sandwich

all this shit is crazy

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134. "No talk abt him/GS9 getting arrested...abt a week ago?"
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One source said NYPD recovered 20 guns at a studio session, another said 2 guns plus crack in a car he was riding in. They been setting his ass up from the get.

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135. "RE: No talk abt him/GS9 getting arrested...abt a week ago?"
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136. "Thanks. Got links to your thoughts on Black Measiah? Lol"
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Or even maxx's thoughts on Black Messiah.

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137. "maxxx said 'Another Life' is a jam."
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I agree with him.

Beyond that..... I have no comment (for now lol)


Seriously, though.... There's only 4 tracks I listen to with any consistency, though that is not to take anything away from the rest of it. It's a really good album but my mind is not blown.

But if nothing else, I appreciate that a work of such ambition exists in the current cynical, facile music climate.

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