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"I have a real hard time believing Baby is a gifted businessman. "
Thu Apr-17-14 10:55 AM by Buddy_Gilapagos

  

          

The Forbes Five: Hip-Hop's Wealthiest Artists 2014 list is out and its the usual suspects.

Diddy, Jay, Dre, 50 and Baby.

Diddy and Jay, I get. Them dudes are hustlers to the core in the biggest hustle town in the world.

Dre and 50 I have always figured they got lucky with their outside of music hustles and/or paired with great businessman.

It wa Jimmy Iovine who crafted the Dre Beats deal that made them both filthy and almost drove beats bankrupt. Was it Steve Stoute or Chris Lighty that did the Vitamin Water deals? Either way I see both these cats one lucky endorsement deal from NOT being on this list.

Finally Baby. I hear him talk, I see the tattoos, and I just have a heard time believing dude is a business mastermind. Only folks on this list whose fortune seems largely made from selling music and I can't help but wonder if Cash Money lucked on remaining relevant by snagging Drake off of a mixtape. Without a Drake I am thinking Baby wouldn't surpass a Masta P or a James Prince.

Does my anti-Baby bias make me a regionalist, elitist or racist?


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Maybe mack Maine is the stringer bell to his Avon barksdale
Apr 17th 2014
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he signed the best distibution deal in the history of music
Apr 17th 2014
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better than Master P's?
Apr 17th 2014
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how so?
Apr 17th 2014
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RE: how so?
Apr 17th 2014
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RE: he signed the best distibution deal in the history of music
Apr 18th 2014
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sunno... but I heard Russell Simmons in and interview....
Apr 17th 2014
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Yeah I have heard that a couple of times
Apr 17th 2014
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      there is a lot of luck in anyone self made becoming rich
Apr 17th 2014
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      did you just call the creator of def jam, lucky?
Apr 18th 2014
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      and Phat Farm, and the entire pre-paid debit sector
Apr 18th 2014
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      RE: Yeah I have heard that a couple of times
Apr 18th 2014
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yes,
Apr 17th 2014
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Baby's business model = having itchy palms
Apr 17th 2014
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I don't believe anyone is stupid or smart
Apr 17th 2014
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Naw there are definitely smart and dumb niggas
Apr 17th 2014
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kinda like when someone self-proclaims to be intelligent,
Apr 17th 2014
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3 things that if you self-describe as such, your not. Smart, Classy and
Apr 17th 2014
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      my uncle says he's intelligent all the time
Apr 17th 2014
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      RE: my uncle says he's intelligent all the time
Apr 17th 2014
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           Yeah but he just has certain interests
Apr 17th 2014
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      add Funny and Introverted to that list
Apr 17th 2014
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huh?
Feb 13th 2015
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not sure what more dude has to do to prove he's a good business man
Apr 17th 2014
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Clearly he is doing something right. Definitely the problem is me
Apr 17th 2014
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I would watch the old videos like "No way they can keep this up"
Apr 17th 2014
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I give him more cred than anybody on that list. Here's why:
Apr 17th 2014
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as far as running a label is concerned, Baby is Diddy
Apr 17th 2014
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not just the first wave. I feel like Bangladesh sues them once a year
Apr 17th 2014
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ditto......
Apr 17th 2014
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RE: I give him more cred than anybody on that list. Here's why:
Apr 17th 2014
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I lol'd @ "talent raper"
Apr 17th 2014
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Baby is a hustler from New Orleans
Apr 17th 2014
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remember his oil well/oil drilling venture?
Apr 17th 2014
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this is all I could find on it
Apr 17th 2014
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      that's actually all that exists except for a online video where he
Apr 17th 2014
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He also gets a piece of a piece of a whole bunch of people
Apr 17th 2014
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been curious to research who ACTUALLY is signed to Cash Money
Apr 17th 2014
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Drake coulda signed anywhere, he chose Cash Money
Apr 17th 2014
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Jay z interview @ the breakfast club
Apr 17th 2014
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wayne said the same in interviews
Apr 17th 2014
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wendy day did that
Apr 17th 2014
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Baby and Diddy the same person
Apr 17th 2014
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I guess I was half way expecting him to pull a Dame Dash
Apr 17th 2014
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Dame and Suge thought that Jay and Dre were disposable
Apr 17th 2014
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      not sure about that...
Apr 17th 2014
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           Jay stabbed him in the back?
Apr 17th 2014
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                I believe he did
Apr 18th 2014
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                the back, the front and the side
Apr 18th 2014
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                yeah but he kinda had to
Apr 18th 2014
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                No blame for Dame still I see. Shits hilarious.
Apr 18th 2014
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                who said Dame is innocent? LOL...
Apr 18th 2014
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                only on OKP is losing toxic baggage backstabbing
Feb 13th 2015
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it's all about perception
Apr 17th 2014
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50s bread largely comes from 50 water.
Apr 17th 2014
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do u actually read up on the facts of his business ventures
Apr 17th 2014
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I am relying on forbes, Bloomberg Businessweek and other
Apr 17th 2014
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      so u do kno hes basically been a mascot for these 'partnerships' right?
Apr 17th 2014
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           precisely
Apr 18th 2014
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lionsgate movie deal. 200m SK energy drink #2 in mkt share
Apr 17th 2014
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are you crazy?
Apr 17th 2014
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      yea jay z is good at being ahead of the curve
Apr 17th 2014
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      lol.
Apr 18th 2014
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obviously the Birdman Lugz did it
Apr 17th 2014
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he has 3 of the most popular acts in music on his label
Apr 17th 2014
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I mean so did Suge Knight
Apr 17th 2014
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      momentarily?
Apr 17th 2014
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           Yeah, do you see all 3 maintaining their current status indefinitely?
Apr 17th 2014
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                Baby's been hot nationally since 1998
Apr 17th 2014
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                Nobody maintains a current status indefinitely.
Apr 17th 2014
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                     Alright for the next 5 years then?!?
Apr 17th 2014
50
they called him BIRDMAN for a reason
Apr 17th 2014
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He's been lawyered up from the jump. That should count for something
Apr 17th 2014
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^^^ This will be a very overlooked piece in this post but it's crucial. ...
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1. I am sooooooo glad they stepped in and made No Limit a non factor.
Apr 17th 2014
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lol Excellent point. I wouldn't dare try to get him to sign off on a
Apr 17th 2014
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      to me he's like the prototype of the nigga u don't want to share
Apr 17th 2014
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      Share a cell? I'd probably be too shook to be his correctional officer....
Apr 17th 2014
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           lmfao
Apr 18th 2014
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      Baby looks like a respectable gentleman next to that dude
Feb 13th 2015
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Some details on how the Universal Deal came to be.
Apr 17th 2014
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I don't get it either. But he has to be doing something right
Apr 17th 2014
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Hold up, 50's still got Vitamin Water money?
Apr 17th 2014
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The Vitamin Water deal netted him 300 mil
Apr 17th 2014
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Yo say that again NET 300M (I think its 200M but whatever).
Apr 17th 2014
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      has anyone seen the check/transfer? is this like jayz owning the nets?
Apr 17th 2014
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           50 made about Fifty on that Vitamin water deal (SWIPE)
Apr 17th 2014
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The Vitamin Water Deal and the Beats Deal are the biggest deals
Apr 17th 2014
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      How much is Puffy making off of Ciroc?
Apr 17th 2014
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           Yeah I think Puff makes more off Ciroc then he ever did from music
Apr 17th 2014
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He is a hustler
Apr 17th 2014
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Birdman is the most believable one of those 5.
Apr 17th 2014
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No he's not. Diddy's name has been ringing off for 20 years.
Apr 17th 2014
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      i haven't purchased anything diddy's sold in years
Apr 18th 2014
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           mind giving some examples, other than CDs
Apr 18th 2014
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           ^^^ Has a closet full of Birdman Lugz
Apr 18th 2014
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           Man, I thought you were joking, until I googled...
Feb 13th 2015
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           If you say so. Don't let Diddy catch you talking all that cool shit tho
Apr 18th 2014
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Baby, Puffy, Master P and Suge Knight are bizmen. Jay'z is lucky
Apr 17th 2014
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y'all realize Forbes whole process is guesstimates, right
Apr 18th 2014
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Fair enough, but that's true for everybody on Forbes 500
Apr 18th 2014
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Lol @ "50 got lucky with outside music business ventures"
Apr 18th 2014
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yea, but his levels of success on those ventures
Apr 18th 2014
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      RE: yea, but his levels of success on those ventures
Apr 18th 2014
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      thank you. i mentioned it up top
Apr 18th 2014
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      Lol. Yall really don't know 'bout 50.
Apr 18th 2014
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i believe him and Slim really DO have bodies. like...for real
Apr 18th 2014
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TL;DR ... Southerners are stupid
Apr 18th 2014
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luck doesnt last 15-20 years...the guy obviously knows what he's doing
Apr 18th 2014
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people love questioning the legitimacy of a black businessman
Apr 18th 2014
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Thank you.
Apr 18th 2014
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I question the business acumen of all men with tattoos on their eyelids
Dec 04th 2014
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Al Sharp went Fed, and he's as black biz as they come
Feb 13th 2015
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some street niggas are real good with business and money
Apr 18th 2014
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I love how only folks from NY can be "smart"
Apr 18th 2014
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Timely topic.
Dec 04th 2014
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I am pretty sure we will find out in the next few months he is NOT
Feb 13th 2015
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It ain't Baby, it's Slim making all the moves...
Feb 13th 2015
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because of the way he talks? Ever hear of Willie Gary? compare his...
Feb 13th 2015
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I think the results speak for themselves....
Feb 13th 2015
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was this discussed anywhere? (NSFW language)
Feb 16th 2015
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that's young thug? u sure about that?
Feb 16th 2015
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      edited.
Feb 16th 2015
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1. "Maybe mack Maine is the stringer bell to his Avon barksdale"
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Or maybe baby's a genius
And you just don't know

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2. "he signed the best distibution deal in the history of music"
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that has to count for something

  

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28. "better than Master P's?"
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39. "how so?"
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61. "RE: how so?"
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he did a deal with universal that gave cash money something like 80 percent royalties, more than half of it's publishing and ownership of its masters. my numbers might be slightly off, but that kind of deal was unheard of for what was pretty much a local label.

  

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97. "RE: he signed the best distibution deal in the history of music"
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yeah I remember that deal....kind of amazing when you think about it.

  

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3. "sunno... but I heard Russell Simmons in and interview...."
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recently say that Baby is one of the most intelligent & genuinely nice dudes that he knows. So... *shrug*

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6. "Yeah I have heard that a couple of times"
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There has got to be some truth to it, I am just admitting I have a hard time believing it.

Also Russell Simmons is another cat who just seems MAD lucky to me from being in the right place at the right time (but I know that's a more controversial opinion).


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9. "there is a lot of luck in anyone self made becoming rich"
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this doesn't cheapen their hard work or intelligence, but a lot of things need to come together to self generate wealth.

  

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87. "did you just call the creator of def jam, lucky?"
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>There has got to be some truth to it, I am just admitting I
>have a hard time believing it.
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>Also Russell Simmons is another cat who just seems MAD lucky
>to me from being in the right place at the right time (but I
>know that's a more controversial opinion).
>


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103. "and Phat Farm, and the entire pre-paid debit sector"
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98. "RE: Yeah I have heard that a couple of times"
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I'm not a big fan of Russ...but read his Autobiography....that ninja worked.

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4. "yes, "
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>Does my anti-Baby bias make me a regionalist, elitist or
>racist?

but I feel the same. its just hard to SEE him like that.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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5. "Baby's business model = having itchy palms"
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means money is coming

  

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7. "I don't believe anyone is stupid or smart"
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Just that some ppl are more adept at certain things

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16. "Naw there are definitely smart and dumb niggas"
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I actually don't believe it can measured to the degree people try (like is there really a difference between a person with a 120 and a 122 IQ?), you can definitely see some people get things quicker than others or see meaningful relationships between seemingly disparate things.

I know a few cats who are way less educated than me but I can tell that they are working with more raw intellect.



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18. "kinda like when someone self-proclaims to be intelligent,"
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or when a person like, say, Oprah strokes a person's ego about how much of a "smart businessman they are".
The rest of us really must be some dumb-dumbs.

  

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22. "3 things that if you self-describe as such, your not. Smart, Classy and"
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humble.

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26. "my uncle says he's intelligent all the time"
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It's true

He's not as smart as he thinks he is but he's smart

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44. "RE: my uncle says he's intelligent all the time"
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>He's not as smart as he thinks he is but he's smart

I think this is my main point.

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52. "Yeah but he just has certain interests"
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And took advantage of unique opportunities

I actually saw down and had a convo to see how he ended up where he did with no degree

I think certain ppl see certain things differently
Can break shit down

But stupid is an extreme word
it's more about mentality than ability imo

But some ppl have a mental headstart

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33. "add Funny and Introverted to that list"
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119. "huh?"
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so the whole idea of intelligence is a myth?
do you mean this in a nature/nurture kind of way?

  

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8. "not sure what more dude has to do to prove he's a good business man"
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i'd certainly put him over jay z who is basically caking off of live nation deals and has jimmy iovine style guidance with the sports agent stuff
baby basically has no talent and until recently..... mostly only had 1 star on his roster yet he comes out of every deal showing he had all the leverage some how
baby and to an extent floyd mayweather (if he pays his taxes) have basically destroyed the gaudy nigga trope

  

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19. "Clearly he is doing something right. Definitely the problem is me"
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not seeing it, not him not doing it.


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10. "I would watch the old videos like "No way they can keep this up""
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low and behold.

I guess it was true because they didn't ALL keep it up, but baby still stunting so it counts for something

  

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11. "I give him more cred than anybody on that list. Here's why:"
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Jay, Dre, and 50 were/are talent. They struck while the iron was hot and were able to build off that, and that's worth plenty, but...

Diddy was/is a talent raper for lack of (me wanting to come up with) a better term. He brings in cats who already have something to offer and sucks the well dry, then drops them. I don't begrudge him, thats his hustle, but...

But Baby? He took a dude who was just a neighborhood kid (and by kid I mean child), and turned him into the most popular rapper in the world for an extended period of time. Plus he (seemingly) doesn't have to shit on his artists to get his riches.

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17. "as far as running a label is concerned, Baby is Diddy"
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the whole first wave of CM artists were/are b*tching about money owed to them

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31. "not just the first wave. I feel like Bangladesh sues them once a year"
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over royalties and then comes crawling back for another placement.


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23. "ditto......"
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cept like GN said....he got a lil puff like wit the handling of thehotboys


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57. "RE: I give him more cred than anybody on that list. Here's why:"
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baby is talent as well. he did the same as jay and 50, only with lackluster results.

all of diddy's artist self-destructed. ludicrous to claim he sucked da band dry. but it could be argued that baby does that.

wayne turned himself into the most popular rapper. if baby had done that he could do it again or at least do it for himself.

and he shits on artists harder than anyone: the fact that drake has to break his cake down 4 times is insane, then there's manipulating wayne to stay with cash money when he was in limbo and had gone to the roc

  

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76. "I lol'd @ "talent raper""
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>Diddy was/is a talent raper for lack of (me wanting to come up
>with) a better term. He brings in cats who already have
>something to offer and sucks the well dry, then drops them. I
>don't begrudge him, thats his hustle, but...

  

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12. "Baby is a hustler from New Orleans"
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How you luv that?

mind
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13. "remember his oil well/oil drilling venture? "
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24. "this is all I could find on it"
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http://www.ballerstatus.com/2010/02/18/cash-moneys-oil-business-questioned-by-bloomberg/

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34. "that's actually all that exists except for a online video where he"
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mentions it...

oh and the oil drill tattoo on his head.

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14. "He also gets a piece of a piece of a whole bunch of people"
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And unlike other dudes that have had artists of their own go off and do their own imprints, often in unceremonious and heated fashion, he has sat back and been okay with getting a piece of a piece of what Wayne or whoever are doing. Retirement is a long game.

  

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32. "been curious to research who ACTUALLY is signed to Cash Money"
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it seems like their whole roster is Young Money at this point.

(I get that they're all technically signed to Cash Money, I'm just curious who ISN'T on Young Money as well).

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15. "Drake coulda signed anywhere, he chose Cash Money"
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honestly, the smartest thing Baby ever did (other than founding the label) was not letting Wayne get away when he started his ascent.

dude has to have a decent amount of business acumen bc the deal he got w/ Universal was incredible at the at the time. and at the very least, dude knew/knows to bring in talented artists and leverage their talent to the fullest (commercially, at least).

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20. "Jay z interview @ the breakfast club"
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He told him he wanted to sign weepy then got sent a cease and desist

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56. "wayne said the same in interviews "
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that the only reason he stayed instead of going to ROC was Baby giving him the Young Money label

also outside of music Baby owns oil rigs, diamond mines, all types of shit. he's a savvy and heavy investor.

  

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59. "wendy day did that"
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21. "Baby and Diddy the same person"
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25. "I guess I was half way expecting him to pull a Dame Dash"
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Remember everyone thought he was such a great businessman until shit fell apart?

I guess I was expecting that from most of these rap moguls. I guess at some point you make so much money it really is hard to go broke.




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30. "Dame and Suge thought that Jay and Dre were disposable"
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that was both of their downfalls. they had good business acumen and hustle(and in Suge's case every criminal business practice in existence) but they didn't realize their product was what got them there.

  

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37. "not sure about that..."
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I think Dame thought Jay wouldn't stab in him in the back.

  

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46. "Jay stabbed him in the back?"
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82. "I believe he did"
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91. "the back, the front and the side"
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92. "yeah but he kinda had to"
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Dame was burning too many bridges. People like to think that if they stuck together Dame would be with Jay at the top but it's more likely that Jay would be with Dame at the *bottom.


*relative to where he was. Dame is doing okay but still.

  

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95. "No blame for Dame still I see. Shits hilarious."
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We all know Dame played his part in the bullshit.

Everybody's got opinions on the way you're living but see they can't fill your shoes... Life is made of half-illusions... forty percent confusion, whatever's left I'm using... to keep myself from losing, yeah.

  

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107. "who said Dame is innocent? LOL..."
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120. "only on OKP is losing toxic baggage backstabbing"
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27. "it's all about perception"
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because i don't see how jay-z is that much of a better businessman than 50 cent aside from the fact that he reminds us he's a businessman on record.

baby is not getting those type of product or co-branding deals because he is not as marketable as those new york dudes. but it's not like any of them are building a business from scratch outside of a label. the fact that baby still has shit together all these years has to speak to some type of business acumen. luck will get your foot in the door but i suspect it takes more than that to sustain success.

  

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35. "50s bread largely comes from 50 water. "
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He has tried to repeat that success and it hasn't really worked for him. That's why I say one lucky deal.

Jay seems to have had a run of successful forays into business: Roca Wear, 40/40, Live Nation Deal, His run at Def Jam, Sports Agent, Barclays...

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42. "do u actually read up on the facts of his business ventures"
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or do u just go off what he tells us on his records?


im thinking the latter





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58. "I am relying on forbes, Bloomberg Businessweek and other"
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business news sources that I read daily.


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77. "so u do kno hes basically been a mascot for these 'partnerships' right? "
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hes the cool black face they put out front to make em look hip

ain't knocking him

but it doesn't take much business acumen for that


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89. "precisely"
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>hes the cool black face they put out front to make em look
>hip
>
>ain't knocking him
>
>but it doesn't take much business acumen for that

what he brings to the table is his celebrity and his cool cosign.
you don't need to be great at business to do that.

  

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78. "lionsgate movie deal. 200m SK energy drink #2 in mkt share"
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sms audio: star wars headphones ahead of the new movies

  

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62. "are you crazy?"
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i'm convinced most of you know nothing about business and are just talking out your ass

rocawear
reebok
livenation
rocsports
budweiser/made in america
samsung

and these are just the deals he made that set precedence

  

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75. "yea jay z is good at being ahead of the curve"
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When it comes to business

That live nation deal alone has opened up a lot of doors for him.

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88. "lol. "
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>i'm convinced most of you know nothing about business and are
>just talking out your ass
as a 15 yr serial entrepreneur who has a post graduate degree in marketing and business strategy, i think i know a thing or two about business so chill with that tone.

i was going to get into the specifics but realized that type of analysis might be lost on you. i am not knocking jay-z but he does the type of deals that most big entertainers have access to. meaning companies want to associate with him because he's a popular musician (a black mascot as sev called it above) . there's nothing wrong with that but it does not take a special "business acumen" that Fiddy has not shown in the past with:
energy drink
g-unit label
g-unit clothing
movie production company

which part of my post are you opposed to exactly?
50 might no longer be as successful as jay-z but they are the same type of "business man".

bottom line is these type of deals might impress fan boys like you but in the world of business, it's just glorified celebrity endorsement deals. the minute his music star stops shining, less of these deals will be brought to the table. and this is the real reason why he keeps on dropping albums instead of retiring like he wanted to.

p.s. why did you leave off his barclays/brooklyn nets deal? lol



>rocawear
>reebok
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>budweiser/made in america
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29. "obviously the Birdman Lugz did it"
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36. "he has 3 of the most popular acts in music on his label"
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Wayne
Drake
Nicki

...as was said b4, YM basically IS CM....and he always seemed like the kind of dude to start smart ventures behind the scenes....

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38. "I mean so did Suge Knight"
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Being momentarily hot doesn't really make the case.

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40. "momentarily?"
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43. "Yeah, do you see all 3 maintaining their current status indefinitely?"
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Heck Lil' Wayne has falling off considerably since the height of his fame.


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45. "Baby's been hot nationally since 1998"
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mind
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49. "Nobody maintains a current status indefinitely."
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What are you talking about?

You been posting real dumb lately man. I'ma need you to stop.

i'm out.
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50. "Alright for the next 5 years then?!?"
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41. "they called him BIRDMAN for a reason"
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you cant sell weight and NOT be business savvy

  

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47. "He's been lawyered up from the jump. That should count for something"
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A huge piece of the rap money puzzle is knowing how to broker deals, understand how contracts work etc.. right?
So after that, what is in question? His ability to spot talent? His ability to put a good promotional team together?
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111. "^^^ This will be a very overlooked piece in this post but it's crucial. ..."
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48. "1. I am sooooooo glad they stepped in and made No Limit a non factor."
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Still goin at it.

2. You all are forgetting about Slim.

  

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51. "lol Excellent point. I wouldn't dare try to get him to sign off on a "
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>Still goin at it.
>
>2. You all are forgetting about Slim.
>

shitty deal. Dude is like a Black Frankenstein, that negro look like he has goons in HELL.
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54. "to me he's like the prototype of the nigga u don't want to share"
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a cell with.

Always thought he was a scary looking fucker

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60. "Share a cell? I'd probably be too shook to be his correctional officer...."
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>a cell with.
>
>Always thought he was a scary looking fucker

Dude looks like he's halfway dead. What I look like trying to give him any type of orders?
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80. "lmfao"
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>Dude looks like he's halfway dead. What I look like trying to
>give him any type of orders?
>

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117. "Baby looks like a respectable gentleman next to that dude"
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face tatts and all.

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53. "Some details on how the Universal Deal came to be. "
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http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.14979/title.dino-delvaille-recalls-inking-cash-money-records-30-million-distribution-deal

I mean the most important line isn't Baby pulling a gun but "Delvaille added that an established sales record and a roster of up and coming acts led to Cash Money getting such a lucrative deal."


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55. "I don't get it either. But he has to be doing something right"
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have some brains and hardwork and ambition

no fucking way its all "luck"
or rather its the "luck" that comes from grinding and hustling and busting your fucking ass for a long, long time

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63. "Hold up, 50's still got Vitamin Water money?"
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I know I'm getting off topic but that shit was years ago, is he still getting money from that? Everybody else on that list has active projects, a roster of signed artists, current endorsement deals. The fuck has 50 Cent been doing?

  

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64. "The Vitamin Water deal netted him 300 mil"
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all he had to do was not piss that money away

  

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69. "Yo say that again NET 300M (I think its 200M but whatever)."
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Jay-Z brags about 300M Live Nation deals but that 150M has to pay for tours and music production.

Yo they wrote 50 cent a straight check for 200M when they sold the company. that's straight cash money (as my pops says).

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71. "has anyone seen the check/transfer? is this like jayz owning the nets?"
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>Jay-Z brags about 300M Live Nation deals but that 150M has to
>pay for tours and music production.
>
>Yo they wrote 50 cent a straight check for 200M when they sold
>the company. that's straight cash money (as my pops says).
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>they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
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73. "50 made about Fifty on that Vitamin water deal (SWIPE)"
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In the media, initial reports put 50 Centís cashout at $400 million, calculated by dividing the purchase amount by 50 Centís reputed 10 percent share. But in reality, 50 Centís take was much less. Another stakeholder needed to be paid off first Ė the diversified Indian conglomerate Tata had invested $677 million for 30 percent of Glaceau in 2006, and got $1.2 billion when Coca-Cola bought them out. When all the other costs had been deducted, 50 Cent was thought to have walked away with a figure somewhere between $60 million and $100 million, putting his net worth at nearly a half billion dollars.

Full Story: Washington Post (From ďThe Big PaybackĒ by Dan Charnas)



Read more: http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2010/12/topic/topic/news/a-closer-look-at-50-cents-vitamin-water-deal-he-did-not-get-400-million/#ixzz2zBNCSQ11

  

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65. "The Vitamin Water Deal and the Beats Deal are the biggest deals"
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ever for any rapper. I am trying to think of any other none athletic endorsement deals that are bigger and drawing a blank.

Remember the baby universal deals everyone is talking about here was "only" worth 30 million. Puffy sold bad boy for like 30M. Rocafella sold for a mere 10M. Berry Gordy sold Motown for like 60M (though not adjusted for inflation).

Music alone doesn't give artist fuck you money (though I think Russell Simmons sold Def Jam for like 100M).

Dre and 50 each made 100s of millions of dollars on deals that turned out to be way bigger than the endorsee thought they they would be.

That's enough money to keep them on this list for YEARS even if they spending crazy dough.

That's why I am saying Dre and 50 are lucky. Because they each had one big deal that put them in the stratosphere while Diddy and Jay have a string of successful deals that are the source of their cake.


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66. "How much is Puffy making off of Ciroc?"
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This Forbes article says "may make more than $100MM"
http://www.forbes.com/2007/10/25/diddy-diageo-vodka-face-markets-cx_ll_1025autofacescanmarkets02.html


Also, I did not know 50 got $300MM from Vitamin Water. I always assumed that it was 1/10 of that.

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67. "Yeah I think Puff makes more off Ciroc then he ever did from music"
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/zackomalleygreenburg/2011/03/16/why-diddy-will-be-hip-hops-first-billionaire/

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68. "He is a hustler "
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He saw an opportunity and took advantage of it
Some of it is luck and more of it is skill
Doesn't he have some land with oil on it too?

I got a good life man

  

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70. "Birdman is the most believable one of those 5."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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72. "No he's not. Diddy's name has been ringing off for 20 years. "
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94. "i haven't purchased anything diddy's sold in years"
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i've purchased things baby is selling pretty regularly since i was in high school in the late 90s.

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96. "mind giving some examples, other than CDs"
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>i've purchased things baby is selling pretty regularly since
>i was in high school in the late 90s.

  

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99. "^^^ Has a closet full of Birdman Lugz"
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116. "Man, I thought you were joking, until I googled..."
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http://lugz.com/footwear-tags/birdman-collection/

Fuck, lol.

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104. "If you say so. Don't let Diddy catch you talking all that cool shit tho"
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>i've purchased things baby is selling pretty regularly since
>i was in high school in the late 90s.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeuVwn78MTc

  

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74. "Baby, Puffy, Master P and Suge Knight are bizmen. Jay'z is lucky"
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Big Meech is a bizman too

  

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79. "y'all realize Forbes whole process is guesstimates, right"
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when they talking Buffett gates etc


They getting them birdman numbers from the same Wendy day xxl interviews and Wayne endorsement press releases we reading





Point being, 1-they should have their breakdown on where they think the figures are coming from. Fwiw baby is on like a 15 yr run of having multiple artists in top 10 radio. That beats the other 4 guys



And 2- they really got no idea if j Prince owns 200 car dealerships, if eminem owns part of lions or anything else if it doesn't make it on their radar #grainofsalt



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83. "Fair enough, but that's true for everybody on Forbes 500"
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All guesstimates and probably wildly off.

Also wealth in general is hard to calculate. You can say someone is worth 500 Million because they have a 10% stake in a %B business, but if they can't sell that stake or that valuation is subject to volatility what does it all mean. Its not the same as having cash money in the bank.

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81. "Lol @ "50 got lucky with outside music business ventures""
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50's first 2 records sold a LOT. Add that to the fact that he's smart as fuck about
keeping money and that the fact that he keeps busy with little ventures here
and there.
Stuff like the Vitamin Water, of course... then the 50 Law book, the headphones,
currently has a workout DVD out, lol. He's also released hella music lately, and
under every vevo/youtube link, there's an itunes link. He stays doing something
to get money. He's definitely a hustler.

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85. "yea, but his levels of success on those ventures"
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independent of dre and em have drastically gone to shit if you don't include that 50 water deal

compared to the others...he definitely benefited from luck more than some of the others

Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

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100. "RE: yea, but his levels of success on those ventures"
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No clue the money involved.. but this is as big a deal as the Vitamin Water sale imo

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102. "thank you. i mentioned it up top"
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he has a distribution deal with lucasfilm for star wars headphones ahead of the new batch of movies.

do you understand what kinda bread that is?

plus if that includes the disney characters?

shiiiit.

  

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105. "Lol. Yall really don't know 'bout 50."
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This dude got an international patent for his brand before he ever even toured
the world, so his apparel and shit couldn't get bootlegged like alotta artists
before him, including Wu tang. He made all his money, because he's a smart
hustler who plans and thinks ahead of the game more than your average hustler.

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84. "i believe him and Slim really DO have bodies. like...for real"
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i dont bleieve 50, Jay, diddy really DID shoot & kill folks. i get 50 was a dopeman but thats a far cry from a killer

baby however? SLIM for DAMN sure, that motherfucker looks like the grim reaper in a hoodie


does it really matter?

  

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86. "TL;DR ... Southerners are stupid "
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90. "luck doesnt last 15-20 years...the guy obviously knows what he's doing"
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whether he did when he came in or not is one thing but he definitely does now. his empire has continued to grow and evolve...his success speaks for itself...hell, all of theirs does.

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93. "people love questioning the legitimacy of a black businessman"
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smh

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106. "Thank you."
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110. "I question the business acumen of all men with tattoos on their eyelids"
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118. "Al Sharp went Fed, and he's as black biz as they come"
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so your point

  

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101. "some street niggas are real good with business and money"
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he's one of them...when u come from the dope game the record game is eerily similar

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108. "I love how only folks from NY can be "smart""
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Absolute hicks and bammas can find a way to make a dollar. You don't have to be a nebbish or a boho ( or whatever y'all worship) to be smart in business.

I'm sure Leah Dunham is an absolute tycoon with her brilliant self

Some of you should stay where you live and not comment on anything outside of it

  

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109. "Timely topic. "
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112. "I am pretty sure we will find out in the next few months he is NOT "
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a gifted businessman.


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"One of the most important things in life is what Judge Learned Hand described as 'that ever-gnawing inner doubt as to whether you're r

  

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113. "It ain't Baby, it's Slim making all the moves... "
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Read up on him and you'll understand.


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my hustle: http://SupaSoulSounds.com

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114. "because of the way he talks? Ever hear of Willie Gary? compare his... "
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bank account to yours.

"when I was growin' up if we wanted a jacuzzi we had to fart in the tub!"

  

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115. "I think the results speak for themselves...."
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obviously he is doing something right.

I used to clown Master P and all them country dudes until I realized they had the game mastered already. Most NY rappers were crying about A&R's and being broke after selling a million units while these country niggas were making bank off of selling 50K units and touring.

  

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121. "was this discussed anywhere? (NSFW language)"
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Mon Feb-16-15 08:53 AM by KiloMcG

  

          

http://instagram.com/p/zIrQzmr-aB/?modal=true

for those who can't click, some dude in Rich Gang is high as gas and states Birdman fucked him in the ass and he sucked Birdman's dick for his record deal.

  

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MiracleRic
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122. "that's young thug? u sure about that?"
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Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

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KiloMcG
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123. "edited. "
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Mon Feb-16-15 08:57 AM by KiloMcG

  

          

my bad, i'm not up on these young dudes.

apparently his name is Starship God or something like that. obviously i'm not here to vouch for it's validity, i just saw it on IG and wondered if it had been mentioned here.

  

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