There once was a time when people in New York City lived in Brooklyn because it was significantly cheaper than Manhattan. Now people move to Brooklyn because of its Urban Outfitters concept store. Where will all the Brooklynites go now?
Brooklyn used to be "cool." Now Brooklyn is expensive and horrible. Here, based on the latest figures out today, is a fun bar trivia game to play: ask someone, "Do you know what the median rent in Brooklyn is?" Then, as they're thinking about it, ostentatiously empty a container of cyanide into your beer.

The median monthly rent was $2,900, up 13 percent from a year earlier and the highest since appraiserMiller Samuel Inc. and brokerage Douglas Elliman Real Estate began tracking the market in January 2008... Last month's median rent was $300 cheaper than Manhattan's, compared with an average spread of about $1,100 in 2008, according to Miller Samuel and Douglas Elliman. Rental demand is also surging as the number of homes for sale in the borough tumbled to a six-year low.

Nothing screams "a welcoming place of refuge for young people and their artistic youthful energy" like a $2,900 a month median rent. Thank you for playing your part in getting the gentrification ball rolling, artistic young people. Your services are no longer needed. You will now be replaced by the unironically wealthy. (Needless to say, the services of the original residents of these neighborhoods has not been needed for some time now.)

The only question now is, where do all the "regular" people move? (Anyone suggesting "out of New York City" will be banned for trolling.) Sure, it's easy to say "Queens" or "The Bronx," or to suggest that everyone just move deeper into Brooklyn. But if you think that the gentrification wave will not soon wash over Sunnyside and Corona and start lapping at the shores of even East New York, you are far too optimistic. My theory is that we are primed for the pendulum to swing back to Manhattan—we are approximately 2 years away from a rash of trend stories declaring that "Manhattan Is the New Brooklyn," as people begin to realize that it's actually cheaper now to live in the East Village or Washington Heights or the Upper East Side than it is to live in fucking Williamsburg or Fort Greene or even fucking Bed-Stuy or Crown Heights, at this point, fuck everything.

You'll always have your "Brooklyn" t-shirt.

http://gawker.com/where-is-the-next-brooklyn-1561720542

but yeah, The People are losing NYC

but still a couple that I know that live in the UES still do the "oh I love brooklyn so much though" wistful thing whenever night life comes up

you can get a 1 bdr in a bldg w/ a doorman with a pool with a laundry room for like 300k.

and it's a damn shame.

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and judging but what I've been seeing pop up on my school listserv, UES is becoming an option again. It's so weird and I can't explain why it's happening, but I'm seeing it.

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but these are coworkers who prize that NY lifestyle
so stumbling home drunk is high priority
and they are willing to pay for a few years
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Absolutely none.

Never thought I'd be over Manhattan but I think that's where I'm at now.

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All the young 20-somethings in my office live there because it's affordable. I have ZERO desire to live there for any # of reasons but I can dig it...

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Same housing stock.

>There once was a time when people in New York City lived in
>Brooklyn because it was significantly cheaper than Manhattan.
>Now people move to Brooklyn because of its Urban Outfitters
>concept store. Where will all the Brooklynites go now?
>Brooklyn used to be "cool." Now Brooklyn is expensive and
>horrible. Here, based on the latest figures out today, is a
>fun bar trivia game to play: ask someone, "Do you know what
>the median rent in Brooklyn is?" Then, as they're thinking
>about it, ostentatiously empty a container of cyanide into
>your beer.
>
>The median monthly rent was $2,900, up 13 percent from a year
>earlier and the highest since appraiserMiller Samuel Inc. and
>brokerage Douglas Elliman Real Estate began tracking the
>market in January 2008... Last month's median rent was $300
>cheaper than Manhattan's, compared with an average spread of
>about $1,100 in 2008, according to Miller Samuel and Douglas
>Elliman. Rental demand is also surging as the number of homes
>for sale in the borough tumbled to a six-year low.
>
>Nothing screams "a welcoming place of refuge for young people
>and their artistic youthful energy" like a $2,900 a month
>median rent. Thank you for playing your part in getting the
>gentrification ball rolling, artistic young people. Your
>services are no longer needed. You will now be replaced by the
>unironically wealthy. (Needless to say, the services of the
>original residents of these neighborhoods has not been needed
>for some time now.)
>
>The only question now is, where do all the "regular" people
>move? (Anyone suggesting "out of New York City" will be banned
>for trolling.) Sure, it's easy to say "Queens" or "The Bronx,"
>or to suggest that everyone just move deeper into Brooklyn.
>But if you think that the gentrification wave will not soon
>wash over Sunnyside and Corona and start lapping at the shores
>of even East New York, you are far too optimistic. My theory
>is that we are primed for the pendulum to swing back to
>Manhattan—we are approximately 2 years away from a rash of
>trend stories declaring that "Manhattan Is the New Brooklyn,"
>as people begin to realize that it's actually cheaper now to
>live in the East Village or Washington Heights or the Upper
>East Side than it is to live in fucking Williamsburg or Fort
>Greene or even fucking Bed-Stuy or Crown Heights, at this
>point, fuck everything.
>
>You'll always have your "Brooklyn" t-shirt.
>
>http://gawker.com/where-is-the-next-brooklyn-1561720542
>

What does $2900 get me?

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

"root for everybody black haters say that's crazy, wow..."

http://www.equityapartments.com/new-york/new-york-city-apartments/brooklyn/the-brooklyner-apartments.aspx

those sites only cover half of bk..



jaded bs

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i just moved out of a 3 bedroom $2900 joint in WBG. was in middle of all the white peepo. if you look they're there.

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then it too will be done

when i saw harlem public for the first time, iono, i didnt even live there anymore, but the feeling was real and strong. then i realized people all around me BEEN feeling this way, it was just my turn, which, incidentally, didn't make me feel any better

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fairweather

...complaining about how shitty it was when they lived there but if they'd just held on after 2008, it would have been awesome because (quote) "It was SO almost there."

Those are my neighbors now.

*drinks arsenic*

brunch
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Queens:
Sunnyside, Flushing, Jackson Heights, Dutch Kills (basically the junction of Astoria, LIC, Queensbridge and Ravenswood), Ridgewood.

Bronx:
Kingsbridge between Heath and Broadway or even Kingsbridge Avenue, Riverdale between Johnson Ave and Riverdale Avenue (they overbuilt -- lots of inexpensive options but you might a well be in Flatlands for all the public transportation options), Pelham Parkway, Bedford Park, Norwood

Manhattan:
Inwood (eastside), Sugar Hill (don't look surprised), eastside of Washington Heights (Audubon in particular and around Highbridge), Spanish Harlem still has some spots but you have to know someone.

My neighborhood now has two Thai restaurants, a biergarten and Starbucks. So we're fucking doomed. BUT. You can still find spots east of Vermilyea. You just have to love bachata. Like... LOVE bachata.

take it down!
we have people queens is full!
the overflow from bush wick already began!
make them stop





...or i can install a toll bridge and charge folks...
nevermind
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"The only question now is, where do all the "regular" people move? (Anyone suggesting "out of New York City" will be banned for trolling.) Sure, it's easy to say "Queens" or "The Bronx," or to suggest that everyone just move deeper into Brooklyn. But if you think that the gentrification wave will not soon wash over Sunnyside and Corona and start lapping at the shores of even East New York, you are far too optimistic. My theory is that we are primed for the pendulum to swing back to Manhattan—we are approximately 2 years away from a rash of trend stories declaring that "Manhattan Is the New Brooklyn," as people begin to realize that it's actually cheaper now to live in the East Village or Washington Heights or the Upper East Side than it is to live in fucking Williamsburg or Fort Greene or even fucking Bed-Stuy or Crown Heights, at this point, fuck everything."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=146&v=rKRtyBB0Vho


Let me find out I moved to New York from VA only so that Brooklyn can move to VA.


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either way, i wish they wld find it and get the hell out of here.

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I know that it sounds silly, especially to okps living out of NYC(I just moved to cali like five minutes ago).....but I HATE people concentrating on Gentrified BK or "Bejewled BK" like its the only part. a lot of the hipsters are moving to the not so safe part of bedstuy already......but for affordable BK....why not beat people to the punch and go to east ny? It is already changing. Brownsville, which is right by the trendy weeksville heritage center is cheaper.......and then sunset park still has somewhat affordable corners. Flatbush is still not THAT expensive.

Yes, I know that you guys looking to live in BK are looking for the five minutes from Williamsburg, where are the young white people, where is the salvation army part of bk. but if you truly want the bk experience, stop worry about where 2 broke girls and girls hang out.

If you are a young professional and you want that decent neighborhood that you can walk around at night, go to bayside queens. go to corona. go to Jackson heights. These are truly ethnic parts of NYC that haven't been sucked dry of their culture ......yet.

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they are fixing trains
truly express trains are actually going express

they can't fix that with east NY on the L

but if they fix it with the A
they already started with the green and red lines
so...
yeah
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but I mentioned parts that are cheap for now.

There isn't a single part of NYC where there isn't a hipster looking out of place, or a "professional" making twice the neighborhood median, not realizing that they are driving up the rent with the quickness.

in 2012, I moved from Bayside to Flatbush on East 22nd between Flatbush and Ocean. evne though there were a fair amount of white people and we were a block from all those Victorian house and Boardwalk empire was shutting down streets every other weekend for taping......there were gun shots and loud noises at night every now and then. There were people in my building not paying rent on time. There were people letting their dogs shit in the stairwell. There are pockets out there still, but sometimes there is a cost.

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>but I mentioned parts that are cheap for now.
>
>There isn't a single part of NYC where there isn't a hipster
>looking out of place, or a "professional" making twice the
>neighborhood median, not realizing that they are driving up
>the rent with the quickness.
>

questions.
how does a pro go about not driving up the rent?
i mean, considering whats needed to get an apartment in the first place (credit report, earnings statement) is not possible to juke the system?

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there are some that come up now and then for "Affordable" properties in the navy yard and the newer buildings that they are putting in east new York to start the change that neighborhood. ironically, those announcements show up on pages like brooklnyer, brownstoner, brokelyn and all of those pages that drive artsts to BK and only show half of what BK is about.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/29/realestate/mott-haven-the-bronx-in-transition.html?_r=0

And you know how slow NYT is and even they're reporting it.

I keep on hearing rumblings about Hunt's Point, but I don't believe it (yet).

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my best friend is being forced out of Bed-Stuy
She's looking into Parkchester heavy
I told her to also look at the South Boogie since she's a creative type and I think she would love the vibe up there.

here for dis.

or Hunt's Point?

Oh man, here it gooooo.

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like
she's already from an outer borough (Queens)
and I make distinctions between NYC natives shuffling around and transplants moving in
or would she be still be considered a gentrifier?
#TheQuestions

here for dis.

I hate that term. its like Manhattan and everybody else.

Economically, you are a gentrifier if you are moving into a neighborhood where u make much more than the median income, regardless of your race.


visually, its basically, you don't look like the people who have been there for years.

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Hastings-On-Hudson OF COURSE!!

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/17/fashion/creating-hipsturbia-in-the-suburbs-of-new-york.html

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fulton and atlantic are filling up quick. never thought i'd seen the day. even up near macdougal and mother gaston near the projects and under that dark el.

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maybe Flatbush since you can still snag a studio for 1300.

opinions?

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