-DJ R-Tistic- Member since Nov 06th 2008 51986 posts
Sat Jan-11-14 06:07 PM
7. "Yup, it's sad. But I remember hearing that even when that album" In response to Reply # 6
dropped, they would do shows and perform their older songs and get ZERO reaction. I even think their accidental selling out may have lead to their break(-up)....a lot of folks became fans for the Bombs over Baghdad, Ghetto Muzik, Hey ya type novelty songs, and weren't into their first three albums as much as they wanted them to be.
-DJ R-Tistic- Member since Nov 06th 2008 51986 posts
Sat Jan-11-14 06:22 PM
9. "It makes them great artists, because to be 100%? Only a FEW Rap" In response to Reply # 8
acts are skilled/talented enough to actually "sell out" and become bigger....and an even lesser number can actually do this AND keep most of their original fanbase.
Black Eyed Peas get the most shit for selling out, but they're a better Pop act than they were as a Rap act, meaning..compared to the late 90's Underground type Rap, they weren't Top Tier. Yet, in Pop, they were like Top 3, maybe even #1 for a while.
So with Outkast...them being able to make these novelty type hits, expand their base with them, and still keep their original fans happy with their material? That's an extremely difficult task to manage.
Now...what happened after may have been hard to really analyze. Maybe they realized they didn't wanna keep making those types of songs? Or even, maybe Dre wanted to, while Big Boi didn't? Even since then, Big Boi is on waaaay more "Trap" type Atlanta songs, which hints that he wanted to keep it more in that lane, although his own albums are still way more experimental than the average ATL rapper.
10. "are people too retarded and/or lazy to know how to google?" In response to Reply # 0
I mean, obviously all those people are either really young, or not hip hop fans. If you wonder why someone is supposed to be a big deal, you can't just google it? Instead of saying dumb shit?
they are the first (night) headliner. the hypothetical i said earlier applies to any headliner, there should be name and music recognition. muse have a string of mainstream hits from the last decade that is probably going to continue for years to come, and arcade fire have been steadily bubbling the last few years to the point where they can be a coachella headliner. what they lack in truly crossover hits they make up for in album of the year grammys (more recent than outkast's), #1 billboard debuts, sold out concerts at madison square garden, and high-profile collaborations and appearances on shows like SNL. as crazy as it may seem to some of us, outkast doesn't have or at least no longer has these things.
Speakerboxx/Love Below came out in 2003 - Kid is 10
Idlewild was 2006 - Kid is 13
For a 20 year old who may not be that into music, its not ridiculous for them to not know who Outkast is besides "Oh yeah, they made Hey Ya!" that song came out when they were 10
18. "That's irrelevant. The Stankonia-Speakerboxxx combo was unescapable" In response to Reply # 13
If you ever heard the radio 2000-2005, you've heard outkast.
"Hey Ya", "So Fresh, So Clean", "Ms.Jackson", all dat. Everywhere.
Nigga, I went to a high school located in a small town in Tennessee. The graduating class under me's (class of 2013) theme song was "So Fresh, So Clean". It don't even matter if you don't like rap. Mofuckas know Outkast.
Fat teenage white chicks stay quoting Andre's verse on "Pink Matter", you know exactly which part I'm talking about.
Age ain't a factor in this, that website is just full of lost niggas.
The Wordsmith Member since Aug 13th 2002 17070 posts
Sun Jan-12-14 01:38 AM
25. "For real. Even I had known of songs and acts before my time...." In response to Reply # 23
....when I was a kid; and I'm not talking about just the ones that got play around the house either. Plus that's without the aid of the internet. It's not like 'Kast was some obscure, low selling group prior to Stankonia. These dudes were always platinum artists. I can't buy the too young to remember excuse; especially with the internet being so prevalent nowadays.
The Wordsmith Member since Aug 13th 2002 17070 posts
Sun Jan-12-14 12:18 PM
34. "I get what you're saying but...." In response to Reply # 26
....I'm talking about artists/songs I wasn't actively persuing. I'm not saying these young folks should know 'Kasts whole catalog but to never have heard of a consistently platinum and better group is weird to me. I can see if it's an artist like Tech Nine who, despite sales, isn't well known to the masses because radio and video play tends to elude him. That's not the case with OutKast. They had both. Can't use the 'the youngsters more than likely didn't watch BET' angle either since MTV played their videos as well.
36. "RE: I get what you're saying but...." In response to Reply # 34
it speaks to the state of ignorance embraced by this generation and a type of people coachella attracts in particular. be glad we are wired differently.
32. " but that was prolly because of your parents " In response to Reply # 23 Sun Jan-12-14 11:10 AM by Mahogany
A lot of parents dont play rap like that around their kids...and even if they do olaying outkast just seems random unless you were a huge fan.
hey ya and miss jackson are the songs that took them to the next level and that was towards the end of their career. I wouldnt expect for most kids to kno them..and if they do its more than likely gonna be because of those two song.
16. "whats the big deal about an outdoor music festival?" In response to Reply # 0
is it because of everything except the music? im surprised ppl on here get hyped to go to it outdoor shows suck and the coachella crowd looks obnoxious
17. "I remember seeing them at Columbia during Stankonia years" In response to Reply # 0
Before going into older songs they said "for those of you that don't know this isn't our first album"...there was no laughter. That was over 13 years ago...the kids in this tumblr were in first grade then.
They really didn't crossover until Ms. Jackson...then Hey Ya popped off a few years later. That's all most of these kids know about. They are just young, if Kast kills it they may convert some new fans.
46. "this kinda broke my heart" In response to Reply # 0 Mon Jan-13-14 12:55 AM by mermaidbuddha
i always say that Atlanta or the South in general is the Africa of modern american music, everything from the snap music crank dat foolishness to the hyper progressive space age vibe, to booty bass to the kuntry pimp shit to the trap rap cadence everyone is riding now. If Black music was the world, The South is Egypt and Andre & Big Boi were Pharaohs. So much came from them.
Aside from Scarface, it could be argued that Outkast singlehandedly got the rest of the country, at least the east coast, paying attention to Southern rappers first. It was Southernplayalisticcaddillacfunkymusic that had the country taking Southern rappers seriously, now see how the entire industry has not only taken note but followed suit. Outkast was the mainstream trajectory of Dungeon Family. The same way everyone everywhere knows what Wu-Tang's C.R.E.A.M. stands for, but might not be able to identify Masta Killa on a verse, anyone who appreciates music has been affected by Dungeon Family's influence and it's a bit tragic to see its own leading harbingers gone uncredited and forgotten.
but alas. white people. and the youth. and internet.
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