https://twitter.com/big_business_/status/1689075399081316352

that's just embarrassing

>https://twitter.com/big_business_/status/1689075399081316352

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https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=17&topic_id=73312&mesg_id=73312&listing_type=search

R.I.P. Loud But Wrong Guy
Dec 29th 2009 - Dec 17th 2017

and Mel, clearly not understanding the joke, got mad and made a post about it…lolololol. I need to find that one, hopefully it was archived.

that was terrible.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

But that shit was garbage

-Sig-

“Why didn’t you do this in your own god damn country?"

-All Stah's view on undocumented immigrants wanting to be treated like human beings.

I'm just glad Mel didn't call him a "Jive Turkey Sucka"

R.I.P. Loud But Wrong Guy
Dec 29th 2009 - Dec 17th 2017

I am not one of those lol

-Sig-

“Why didn’t you do this in your own god damn country?"

-All Stah's view on undocumented immigrants wanting to be treated like human beings.

Because I busted Em’s dome with a 40 ounce of beer.

Although Melle was talking wild all throughout those Vlad interviews

R.I.P. Loud But Wrong Guy
Dec 29th 2009 - Dec 17th 2017

https://twitter.com/owkle/status/1689156752900603904?t=iZZwkv_pa560kW0ADKdfQA&s=19

Doot-doot-do-do-doot, do-doot-doot.

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Yes! She's on the drugs. (c) BoHagon

https://twitter.com/VictorySlap4700/status/1689149800456015873?t=fhpqd-l7wXW4dn6xhFoZuQ&s=19


>Doot-doot-do-do-doot, do-doot-doot.

Yeah, that was terrible but its still dope to me to see a 60 year old jump in the booth for a diss track.

that dude aint even attempt to change his flow once in the last 50 years???

Mad, sad, glad, bad.. lmao.

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in the 80's.

Chuck D tells a story of Mel in the audience at a PE show, booing them off stage and being louder than the music.

My only issue with this whole thing is folks thinking he's personally singling Eminem out. Mel probably dislikes 95% of the MC's who aren't in the Furious 5.

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Like, Mel wouldn’t even shake his hand.

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Yes! She's on the drugs. (c) BoHagon

Everyone is just clowning Muscles for his corny lyrics and 1985 ass ABC aesthetic

-Sig-

“Why didn’t you do this in your own god damn country?"

-All Stah's view on undocumented immigrants wanting to be treated like human beings.

Mel was downplaying a bunch of different rappers in those Vlad TV interviews and apparently has been disrespecting cats for a LONG time (LOL/SMH @ that story of him booing Public Enemy. He should have been the hater of the year for that)

R.I.P. Loud But Wrong Guy
Dec 29th 2009 - Dec 17th 2017

So that little snippet was well earned

-Sig-

“Why didn’t you do this in your own god damn country?"

-All Stah's view on undocumented immigrants wanting to be treated like human beings.

His ego is inflated as fuck relative to his actual body of work so I don’t feel a way about watching him get dragged.

-Sig-

“Why didn’t you do this in your own god damn country?"

-All Stah's view on undocumented immigrants wanting to be treated like human beings.

I must have heard this song like 15 times listening to multiple vids clowning Mel's weak lines.

If this "song" somehow ended up charting because of everyone talking about how bad it is, that would be hilarious

R.I.P. Loud But Wrong Guy
Dec 29th 2009 - Dec 17th 2017

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Yes! She's on the drugs. (c) BoHagon

But that was all the positives he could could find

https://youtube.com/shorts/twQCak8glPc?feature=share

-Sig-

“Why didn’t you do this in your own god damn country?"

-All Stah's view on undocumented immigrants wanting to be treated like human beings.

Talk about a self inflicted L.

I’m not even an Em fan, but he’s gone out of his way to show love and respect to the pioneers. This was so unnecessary.

"My skin color’s still working against me / ‘Cause second—I should be—to none / Bein’ white being why they put me at 5, nope, that’s why they can’t put me at 1.”

"I am a guest in this house, but I turned this bitch into a mansion.”


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Saying “I’m the best” isn’t exactly weird in rap lyrics.

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This goes beyond saying "I'm the best"

His white skin is holding him back from number 1 on rap list.

"I am a guest in this house, but I turned this bitch into a mansion"


Hip Hop was a shack before he arrived.

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or just him?

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

Eminem said he was the best or put the strawman away.


>or just him?


smh

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Eminem both benefitted from his skin color (mainstream acceptance, plays on white rock radio, etc) and got flack for it. People did not respect him as an MC because he was white, and at that time - the only notable solo white rapper was Vanilla Ice. Shit, a line in Mel’s song was “we let Pee Wee Herman in the Hall of Fame” - is that not a shot at his race? Cmon.

Also, he didn’t say “hip hop was a shack” - you invented that detail. Hip hop is unquestionably bigger than it was in ‘99. It’s global, it’s on the half time show, etc. it wasnt when his first major label album came out. Like it or not - he’s a big reason for it being in a much more mainstream place than it was before him.

And I’m not even an Em stan like that. To me, he’s always been an ultra talented MC who can’t really write songs and who picks terrible beats. But to question he’s a big reason hip hop moved forward is idiotic.

But sure. He’s being disrespectful.

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https://genius.com/Eminem-white-america-lyrics

"In “White America”, Eminem even acknowledges himself that the continuous positive reception he had received from consumers, and particularly critics and the media was primarily because of complexion, and not only his dexterity."


" It apprises the listeners with the United States Government’s contradictions and how Eminem, as a white male, was deliberately placed as a vanguard for hip hop; a music genre dominated and originated by African Americans, simply because of his white skin color and not only his artistry."

vs


"My skin color's still working against me/'Cause second, I should be, to none/Bein' white being why they put me at five (Nope)/That's why they can't put me at one,"

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The guest house he turned into a mansion

"Long-shot Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy slipped into his rapper alter ego “Da Vek” at the Iowa State Fair on Saturday, spitting bars from Eminem’s “Lose Yourself” on stage."


"His song of choice? “Lose Yourself,” which he also said at the fair was his favorite walk-out tune at campaign events. During his time on stage, Ramaswamy accompanied his rap with a rant about the “climate change agenda” and how he’d sign a “declaration of independence from Communist China” if elected president."

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Nah I'm laughing but since you want attention.

"You’re creating arguments where there are none."

I didn't create anything.

"Eminem both benefitted from his skin color (mainstream acceptance, plays on white rock radio, etc) and got flack for it. People did not respect him as an MC because he was white, and at that time - the only notable solo white rapper was Vanilla Ice."

When did Eminem get this flack that was so bad he had to address it now ? Before he signed with Dre ? After he signed with Dre ? Any flack he got was nothing compared to his white privilege.

"Shit, a line in Mel’s song was “we let Pee Wee Herman in the Hall of Fame” - is that not a shot at his race? Cmon."

So since Mel took shot at his race that was enough for him to use a line on the same level as the tiki torch cowards reverse racism argument ?


"Also, he didn’t say “hip hop was a shack” - you invented that detail. Hip hop is unquestionably bigger than it was in ‘99. It’s global, it’s on the half time show, etc. it wasnt when his first major label album came out. Like it or not - he’s a big reason for it being in a much more mainstream place than it was before him."

I didn't quote him when I said shack. Yes Hip Hop is bigger are you saying all of that is due to Eminem ? Hip Hop was not global when RUN DMC was taking it mainstream ? L.L. Cool J, Public Enemy and all the names in his HOF speech had nothing to do with Hip Hop getting bigger ?


"And I’m not even an Em stan like that. To me, he’s always been an ultra talented MC who can’t really write songs and who picks terrible beats. But to question he’s a big reason hip hop moved forward is idiotic."

It's stupid and ridiculous to act like nobody can question the person who said he is number one, after responded with a reverse racism line when his white privilege was called out.

"But sure. He’s being disrespectful."

Your whitesplain is a waste of time.

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Never once said Eminem is THE reason hip hop is as big as it is. So, since you’re in the business of inventing shit repeatedly and throwing out weird stories like a politician performing a 20 year old song…I think we’re done here.

Have a great rest of your day.

PS - "reverse racism" is a wildly stupid term that I thought only boomers used. Props for bringing it back!

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"Never once said Eminem is the reason hip hop is as big as it is."


Hip hop is unquestionably bigger than it was in ‘99. It’s global, it’s on the half time show, etc. it wasnt when his first major label album came out. Like it or not - he’s a big reason for it being in a much more mainstream place than it was before him. - Ryan Eminem stan


" So, since you’re in the business of inventing shit repeatedly and throwing out weird stories like a politician performing a 20 year old song" - Ryan Eminem stan

" his favorite walk-out tune at campaign events" - from the article

Yeah why should any white rap artist tell a rightwing nut to stop using his music, when can complain about his white skin keeping him
off number 1 hip hop list.

"I think we’re done here. Have a great rest of your day."

Again ? Don't make a promise you can't keep.

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https://youtu.be/BWNQTqMkezc

A lot of the original school legends are grumpy, grouchy, and kinda bitter (often understandably so). And of those legends, Melle Mel is grumpier, grouchier, and more bitter than most.

And he’s ALWAYS been like this. He used to go Public Enemy shows in the clubs and boo them. He battled KRS back in like 87/88, by all accounts get waxed, but refused to concede, walking out of the spot like he was the undisputed champ. Method Man has said that Melle Mel has even refused to shake his hand.

(Here’s that clip. Stuff about Mel starts at around 4:30, but the whole thing is pretty Germaine to the convo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=todsxR3Pk8s)

For emcees like Mel, hip-hop has always been about completion. So I’m sure he saw this whole thing as an extension of that.

This kinda reminds me of the whole Control Remix drama 10 years ago, where every emcee from the emcee from the East Coast got into their feelings over Kendrick’s verse. Or another instance 10 years ago, where Casual wrote a whole ass 10-minute dis track towards Eminem because Em made “Rap God.” Problem is, with the nature of the Internet and social media, everyone takes everything so fucking literal, so now Mel feels the pressure to apologize for something that would have just gone away in a few weeks.

So yeah, this is another example of how times change.

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Checkin' Our Style, Return To Zero:

https://www.mixcloud.com/returntozero/

its been over but dude had to finally admit to himself he doesn’t have it

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

I saw the netflix documentary on lady MCs (very good) but when Shante said this I knew he was going to be in trouble.

https://twitter.com/IceQuebe_/status/1690854903395045376


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