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ConcreteCharlie
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"Poll question: Who was in the wrong?"
Tue Mar-07-23 12:04 AM by ConcreteCharlie

  

          

OK, so here is the situation. Two friends are going to a game, they'd planned loosely for a while. It's also close to one of their birthdays. The birthday guy buys two tickets for the game. The other person invites him to dinner as a birthday gift after that. The birthday guy thanks his friend, buys him a beer, all goes well. The next day, he hits him up for the price of one ticket. The friend who bought dinner gets offended thinking, hey, I spent money on a nice dinner, how come you're hitting me up at all?


Poll result (15 votes)
Person 1 (birthday) (5 votes)Vote
Person 2 (gift giver) (3 votes)Vote
Y'all triflin'! (both) (7 votes)Vote

  

  

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Bad communication all the way around. But this is on the friend.
Mar 07th 2023
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why does someone think they deserve a free ticket?
Mar 07th 2023
2
because they laid out money for the dinner and gift
Mar 07th 2023
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this BBS
Mar 07th 2023
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^
Mar 07th 2023
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^^ yup.
Mar 07th 2023
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everyone broke
Mar 07th 2023
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the hilarious thing is that they are not
Mar 07th 2023
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      The wealthiest people I know are also the cheapest.
Mar 08th 2023
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My big sis and I are kinda in the same situation...
Mar 07th 2023
5
100
Mar 07th 2023
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What's this sending someone a bill after the fact?!!?
Mar 07th 2023
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Had this happen over a coffee
Mar 07th 2023
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Haha c'mon !
Mar 07th 2023
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I think what problem was the amalgamation
Mar 07th 2023
12
that’s some passive aggressive shit
Mar 07th 2023
16
Birthday boy's wrong... on some passive-aggressive shit
Mar 07th 2023
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My exact sentiment...
Mar 07th 2023
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I assumed planned loosely meant they had a convo about seats/prices
Mar 07th 2023
21
other dude requested he took care of the tix bc he didnt have time
Mar 07th 2023
26
      Since he asked the birthday guy to get the tickets, he could've at least...
Mar 07th 2023
27
Whomever got angry before talking it out
Mar 07th 2023
14
Non b-day guy just went silent for 2 months
Mar 07th 2023
28
"Hey I got the tickets, it comes out to $XXX/person"
Mar 07th 2023
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Same.
Mar 07th 2023
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Did BG make explicit beforehand that he'd request reimbursement?
Mar 07th 2023
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my understanding is this
Mar 07th 2023
25
Your friend is an asshole
Mar 07th 2023
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which one? lol. maybe both, hence the triflin option
Mar 07th 2023
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      lol. i initially thought you were one of the people in the situation
Mar 08th 2023
29

Cold Truth
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1. "Bad communication all the way around. But this is on the friend. "
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They discussed going to the game, so the friend should have expected to pay their way.

Unless there was some reason to expect birthday guy to foot the bill, there's no justification to assume they didn't have to pay their way.

  

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2. "why does someone think they deserve a free ticket? "
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22. "because they laid out money for the dinner and gift"
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as someone who's bought plenty of gifts and dinners, i never expected anything back, in some ways a favor in return kind of cheapens it. but i get that not everyone has that mentality and i'm not sure if either of these people do.

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3. "this BBS"
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7. "^"
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9. "^^ yup."
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4. "everyone broke"
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23. "the hilarious thing is that they are not"
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one is comfortable, the other is very wealthy. which makes this even more absurd to me.

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30. "The wealthiest people I know are also the cheapest."
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Meanwhile the people who could really use that $30 they spent on you are either too afraid or too nice (or both) to ask. Real mindfuck.

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5. "My big sis and I are kinda in the same situation..."
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minus the "beef" over money. She lives in San Fran and she's a big hoop head. She LOVES Luka. She hit me up earlier this year like...lil bro, the Mavericks play the Grizzlies on a Saturday in March...how bout I fly out, you drive down the highway and we catch the game. Tix on me. I'm like, say less...I got us for food and drinks at the game and on Beale Street. Done. Complete understanding. I didn't even hesitate to pick up ALL the food and drinks as I know my sis and how she spends. She makes WAAAAY more money than me, evident by the fact that she lives in San Francisco...very comfortably. I think the sich in the OP just comes down to shitty communication. A 45 second text exchange before the event could have prevented all this, IMO. TLDR, though...birthday boy is buggin. LOL.

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10. "100"
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That's my thing like damn this is a very minor thing to have any sort of funk over. Two minute convo clears it up. But it has been a few months now and they're just now approaching it.

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6. "What's this sending someone a bill after the fact?!!?"
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I've seen this argument a few times amongst friends. Someone invites them out to something. They have a good time. Next day (or sometime later) the person sends them a bill for their share.

I know its a common practice (especially among younger people) but I am old school enough that if you want me to split costs of something, you need to let that be known upfront and let me know what the costs are.

The reason this is such a big issue because most of my friends operating under, "you treat this time, I treat next time, it will all be a wash in the end". If that's not how we are operating, just say, "these tickets are X, I'll buy them and you can pay me back later?"

This recently became a big thing within one of my friend groups because one of the dudes invited everyone to an expensive dinner for his birthday. People went and then after the fact he started sending people venmo requests. Dude is baller enough he should have been able to treat. If he wasn't going to treat, he should have told people in advance (or allow people to get separate checks).

But sending a venmo request with no prior discussion is tacky AF.


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8. "Had this happen over a coffee"
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Dude went up and bought, smallest bill I had was a 20, 'don't worry about it, next time', 4hrs later...venmo request for 5. Huh? Petty petty

  

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11. "Haha c'mon !"
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12. "I think what problem was the amalgamation "
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Tue Mar-07-23 11:53 AM by ConcreteCharlie

  

          

Like the plans for the game, in a general sense, was each person pays their own way. But then it got lumped in with the b-day dinner. Either way seems like minor difference of opinion that could be resolved in seconds, not months.

I had a slightly similar thing happen with a concert. A friend hit me up said he wanted to go but not solo. I said ok sure. Rode an hour, paid my 50 to park, caught the show with him. Next day he says can you shoot me 94 bucks or whatever. I said ok and sent it to him. I went to the show, I enjoyed it, we were never super specific about it so I was like yeah, sure, and sent it over.

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16. "that’s some passive aggressive shit"
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yeah, we announce that shot beforehand

“how we paying for this?”

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13. "Birthday boy's wrong... on some passive-aggressive shit"
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Why didn't he ask for the money up-front or when he bought the tickets?

  

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15. "My exact sentiment..."
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If I tell my mans, yo lets hit up a game....I'm either going to: cop the tix and enjoy OR talk to him about seats/prices and get his input...then say something like...I'll cop and you can cashapp me your part. Either way, he won't find out after the game that he owes me money.

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21. "I assumed planned loosely meant they had a convo about seats/prices"
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but i could be wrong.

<they'd planned loosely for a while

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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26. "other dude requested he took care of the tix bc he didnt have time"
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to me this could go either way in terms of how the bill was split. either person gets both or pay your own way. i get both arguments and that's why i was curious to see what people thought.

that said, the guy who's birthday it wasn't got mad about the situation, whereas the other dude was like "if you'd just said i don't think that's fair, i'd have been cool with that." the counterargument i imagine is that why should i even be in a position to say that? but that seems a little odd, i mean it's not a huge amount of money or a fierce argument, the whole thing could have been solved in a minute or two.

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27. "Since he asked the birthday guy to get the tickets, he could've at least..."
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...offered to pay for his.

I gotta take back some wrong from the birthday boy and put it on the other friend. Seems like poor communication on both sides.

  

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14. "Whomever got angry before talking it out"
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Then whomever got defensive as a result instead of working to find a resolution

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28. "Non b-day guy just went silent for 2 months"
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Tue Mar-07-23 11:34 PM by ConcreteCharlie

  

          

Then returned with the reason why, and that's what started the pseudo beef

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17. ""Hey I got the tickets, it comes out to $XXX/person""
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avoids this whole shit.

Though, it is also nice when a person says "Hey how much do I owe you?"

I really try to be both of those people in these kinds of situations.

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19. "Same."
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>I really try to be both of those people in these kinds of
>situations.

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18. "Did BG make explicit beforehand that he'd request reimbursement?"
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Tue Mar-07-23 02:07 PM by Frank Longo

  

          

Because if a buddy says to me, "Hey, wanna come to the game with me?", unless he says, "btw tickets at $80" or whatever," then I'm assuming it's on him.

Now, I think the friend should've said to Birthday Guy, "Cool, would love to come! How much are the tickets?" Would've cleared things up from the jump. So definite communication issues between the boys here...

... but if I get invited to a thing and they don't tell me "tickets cost X" beforehand? I assume I'm along for the ride and I'll just get my guy dinner or drinks later. So if we *had* to assign someone with making the first mistake, I'd say it's Birthday Guy for not establishing ahead of time that this was a ticket he was looking for someone to buy off him.

But I think it's subpar communication all around-- and unless the tickets were insanely expensive, if you're in a friendship where you're going to games and you're buying dinners/drinks for each other, I don't think it's worth getting angry about tbh.

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25. "my understanding is this"
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They were planning to go to a game for a couple months. Not explicitly but in the way that any two grown people doing something together likely would, they were each going to pay their own way. Once they settled on the game the friend said "cool, you can look for the tickets, right?" or something like that. But no discussion of either person ultimately paying for both tickets.

Then it got linked to the bday. Friend wanted to go big for the bday, did, and then figured bday guy would reciprocate by getting the tix (not stated either). He got upset about that, and when he later told the other dude (bday), the dude was hurt that he didn't just say something because there was kind of a weird distance/pause in a longstanding friendship.

Too much drama for me.

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20. "Your friend is an asshole"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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24. "which one? lol. maybe both, hence the triflin option"
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29. "lol. i initially thought you were one of the people in the situation"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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