I've had three political revelations in the last week I need to share.
1. The GOP is down to cultural wars. That's all they got. If they aren't talking about Dr. Suesss and other Culture War touch points, they have literally nothing else to talk about.
2. If all the GOP has is cultural wars, then why fight them on the one topic that they feel good about and probably have the more popular opinion regarding? If they argue that Dr. Suess is being cancelled, I don't think the right response is listing all the reasons why Dr. Suess deserves to be cancelled. Why let them frame the discussion? Its more like, "No he's not/Who gives a sh*t/Is this really the most important thing to you"?"
3. And then ONLY yesterday I learned that the Stimmy Bill is being described as "the most significant piece of legislation to benefit working people in the modern history of this country" (c) Bernie. Why? Because it basically includes UBI for children. How did I miss all that? Oh yeah, I missed all that because in social media folks was arguing over Dr. Suess. That got me thinking maybe GOPers cultural war strategy is finally no longer working and maybe even its a GOOD idea to argue over culture wars so fox news gets its ratings and legislatures can get busy passing more progressive bills.
Anyway, I may be late to the party but if you like me and haven't heard about these hidden pieces of the stimmy bill check out:
4. My other thing is less a revelation but more of a reminder is that all political takes on twitter are always wrong because they can never capture the long view.
I was telling my homie about the Child tax credit but he said that sounds nice but what about the 2000 checks that were promised instead of the 1400 checks they sent? SMH.
********** "Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
1. "im glad im not on twitter" In response to Reply # 0
i have not seen one person defend or even talk about cancelling dr. seuss except for headlines saying that GOP senators are complaining about it.
no one seems to care. cool.
the stimulus bill has a lot of good stuff in it. i havent seen much reporting on a lot of details until the last few days. medicaid is also being pushed to be expanded with it. people are getting help with ACA premiums. it really is a pretty good bill.
i want to ask people that are complaining about the checks not being 2000 if they would still had voted if they specifically ran on 1400 amount. i think the answer would be, oh well i dont live in georgia/didnt vote or uh yeah i still would have.
4. "idk man, the patreon I subscribe to that tells me I'm really smart" In response to Reply # 0
says that the democrats literally bent me over and fucked me
so there's no possibility any good thing is in the stimulus package, but I won't actually name bernie sanders even though he's a part of it because I'm going to later pretend he's the reason I oppose it
5. "We started a post about the child UBI here on OKP, hardly anyone " In response to Reply # 0
participated in it.
Vox has had a few articles up about the child UBI. I actually like Romney’s child UBI plan better but both will help parents and help reduce child poverty.
3. true dat > >4. My other thing is less a revelation but more of a reminder >is that all political takes on twitter are always wrong >because they can never capture the long view.
nope. threads.
there is actually alot of excellent, well thought out, long view political takes on twitter. you might not be following the right folks.
Is being unified in losing opposition that important? I would think some of them would want to go home to their constituents and take credit for getting them help.
I guess they did the math and realized their chances are better being the anti party no matter what
9. "RE: I didn't get the GOP's strategy on the stimulus" In response to Reply # 8
>Is being unified in losing opposition that important? I would >think some of them would want to go home to their constituents >and take credit for getting them help.
They're gonna try to take credit despite voting against it.
11. "The GOP base is baseless....." In response to Reply # 0 Thu Mar-11-21 04:05 PM by blueeclipse
No foundation in fact. Period.
That means the GOP can act anyway they want and circle back to these people with whatever bullshit they want.
Politically this is a huge joker card. HUGE.
They can come back in 2022 and say that even though they did not vote for this stimulus that the one they passed under Trump gave checks to more people "technically" even though they gave zero support to this and wouldn't have even with more checks.
That's what were dealing with here.
Democrats on the other hand are still trying to conduct business as if this isn't the case on the other side. You have "moderate" Dems watering down bills and holding the filibuster vote hostage.
They have to be grounded. They have to vote on shit they don't want to when they are in the minority in the House or Senate for PR purposes.
Their messaging is bad. They will let the Republicans continue to get away with this.
They had a 60 vote majority in 2009 and still fumbled the ball at the 1 on the ACA. That shit was supposed to be single payer and then Ted Kennedy died and they had to pass that very Republican bill.
Then they let Republicans tear them apart so bad over it that they got decimated in the midterms. Then the Governor who's bill they based the ACA off of, Mitt Romney, ran for President by shitting on the same bill.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 80055 posts
Thu Mar-11-21 04:12 PM
13. "All GOP voters care about is sticking it to Dems" In response to Reply # 0
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
15. "Re: the checks " In response to Reply # 0 Thu Mar-11-21 04:25 PM by Amritsar
The hyper focus on the checks makes sense given the base. It’s the only tangible part of the stimulus that wealthy online faux journalist influencer bros would ever see. The fuck is SNAP of TANF lol
Very diff story for actual working families though. Apparently the bill has more than one bullet point
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
24. "RE: Culture Wars/Dr. Seuss/Child Tax Credit" In response to Reply # 0
It seems like after the tax cuts in 2018, the Republicans have pretty much accomplished all they were looking to accomplish legislatively on the federal level. They're wasting no time passing anti-voting laws in the states though, so I think a lot of the culture wars stuff is red meat for their "moral" constituency and subterfuge for everyone else to keep their eyes off their real goal of shrinking the electorate so they can get back in power and continue to put conservatives into judgeships. Because, let's be real, the true power in this country is in the courts.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 80055 posts
Tue Mar-16-21 08:37 AM
27. "they have a monthly newsletter with talking points" In response to Reply # 25
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
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