3 part documentary series with each episode about an hour. Focusing on Telenova star Kate Del Castillo and her meeting with El Chapo along with Sean Penn, the media rumors of an alleged relationship between her El Chapo, and her actual relationship with Penn
Penn tried to keep it from coming out saying the doc implies he helped lead to El Chapo's capture. I see what he means to some degree, but I think if the cartel thinks it was his fault, they don't need this doc to tell them that. After watching it, it mostly seems like Penn didn't want to to drop because it makes him look like a dick. and a liar.
it needs my full attention because I have to read the subtitles...
You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.
2. "Penn with the smooth white savior game *spoiler*" In response to Reply # 0
SPOILER
Kate was horrified after the meeting, damm near having a nervous breakdown Sean kicks that hollywood liberal white savior game when she's at her most vulnerable: "check out these photos of me in Haiti, Venezuela, all these misery stricken places. Am I not awesome, and not your typical celebrity?" *cue panties coming off*
After the article comes out, he swiftly kicks her to the curb
If the CDS even thought he had something to do with Chapo's capture, Penn wouldn't be breathing today. I think they charged it to the game
>Kate was horrified after the meeting, damm near having a >nervous breakdown >Sean kicks that hollywood liberal white savior game when she's >at her most vulnerable: >"check out these photos of me in Haiti, Venezuela, all these >misery stricken places. >Am I not awesome, and not your typical celebrity?" >*cue panties coming off*
LOL she said he showed her videos. I'd LOVE to know he introduced this.
"Hey let's get our minds off Chapo and watch a silly comedy" *fumbles and drops Only Sean Penn Saved Haiti video* "What's that, Sean?" "Oh oh geez i forgot there was a video" *goes into Serious Sean Penn mode*
>After the article comes out, he swiftly kicks her to the curb > >If the CDS even thought he had something to do with Chapo's >capture, Penn wouldn't be breathing today. >I think they charged it to the game
Yeah, Chapo's lawyer seems to acknowledge Chapo was careless by allowing this meeting. The most damming accusation was her lawyer's speculation that Sean's lawyer being a former US attorney contacted the govt. I can't blame him for being pissed about that. But the idea that the cartel would learn this info through the documentary/that they don't already have that information, is silly.
GriftyMcgrift Member since May 22nd 2002 20414 posts
Mon Oct-23-17 02:26 PM
4. "IMO the CDS is only as powerful as the feds (mexico) allow them" In response to Reply # 0
to be
and the mexican feds knew about everything that was happening so that leads me to believe there are several people on both sides (mexican feds and cds) that "allowed" this to happen
5. "Do you think they allowed it so they could put it on Kate/Sean?" In response to Reply # 4 Mon Oct-23-17 04:51 PM by Mynoriti
or specifically kate to get some payback for speaking out
they clocked them at the airport. even with decoys they went in right afterwords.
knowing the meeting would go pulbic, they'd have to try and save face rather than let it seem like actors can find El Chapo but the govt cant.
>and the mexican feds knew about everything that was happening >so that leads me to believe there are several people on both >sides (mexican feds and cds) that "allowed" this to happen
the reason i recommend that one in particular is because it is one of the few ive seen that really delves into the crazy levels of corruption in mexico and how any real investigation into anything really never goes anywhere and even when it does, that part is by design as well
ok back to the topic at hand
honestly i believe chapo was "given" to the US in some way
Possibly an agreement between El Mayo and the Mexican Feds
Chapo from an operational standpoint was extraneous at this point
the rest of CDS can and has operated for sometime without him
the real big dog in CDS is El Mayo, he's the guy with the legit connections to the government and all the power
So most likely any coordination from the journalist and mexico was probably facilitated by the Mexican Government
how much the US government was involved hard to say tbh, but gut says both sides were playing ball
>honestly i believe chapo was "given" to the US in some way
dunno of you watched this yet, it doesn't really mention El Mayo, or get too deep into the CDS. They do assumee El Chapo was extradited to the us the day before inauguration day as an offering to Trump
I don't know much about El Mayo. I'll probably have to hit that rabbit hole soon lol
dont know if i will tbh i may check it out seems like mostly fluff tbh
i read several articles about the whole thing when it happened and after and i think i saw some of the actual interviews with el chapo so not sure how much more there is to it
el chapo's story to me in the grand scheme of things is one of the least interesting aspects other than his prison escapes
which really arent surprising when you learn about how corrupt the prison system is in mexico but the way they go about covering up the real story with patsys and fake witnesses and this and that is interesting
if you want to know a little about el mayo look up articles about the conflict between him, el mencho and the chaparitos that happened soon after chapo's capture