I always find these conversations interesting.

It's not the South.

fuck you.

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But up until maybe the mid 20th century, that was arguably the top of the South.

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fuck you.

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but niggas are way different in each city.

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limit.

DC is technically southWEST of Philly. Very much so, in fact. You can drive from DC to Harrisburg faster than Philly to Harrisburg. So the 4 hours between DC and Pittsburgh makes sense.

EDIT - I just remembered that when I did that drive with my father, he was doing 55 the whole way, which is why it took us that long.

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and yes, definitely speeding.

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they were some real bammas when we met up with my crew from Philly and East Orange.

I used to visit Brooklyn in the summer growing up. When I would come home it was obvious we were midwest.

Niggas still rocking Dickie outfits in Pittsburgh.

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look East Coast to you?

asking the dj to play some Texas shit and Pastor Troy during an east coast set and shit.

my mix tapes got no run at our house parties. Natives got no love.

They were on that midwest shit.

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.

fuck you.

fuck you.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4f/Map_of_USA_Midwest.svg/284px-Map_of_USA_Midwest.svg.png

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"You can't beat white people. You can only knock them out."

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Does that make it the South? It's almost that close to he Maryland border.

fuck you.

That Winters Bone

not the part in the panhandle squeezed between Pennsylvania and Ohio.

fuck you.

You're still in the eastern OH/western PA area, so it's midwest. But you're definitely in the Appalachian subregion. I don't think a lot of folks realize that Appalachia includes a large chunk of SE & eastern Ohio, western PA and most (if not all) of WV, including the part smashed between OH & PA.

fuck you.

so she walked me outside and told me to look up, we live on the side of Appalachian Mountains. The actual city is in a valley but most of the region resides on the sides of the northern tip of the mountains.

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Which is art of the east coast.

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since they're both wihin driiving of the coast and coastal cities and nowhere near the middle part of the country. 20 hours driving from places like witchita/omaha/kc (longer than omaha to vegas).

ohio and pittsburg are both smack dab in the middle of the the eastern time zone.

http://miami-water.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/USA-Time-Zones3.gif

only reason ohio is considered midwest is because it was the western frontier for 200 years before the us bought the real midwest from the french.

i couldn't follow your point in part b/c no one w/any sense would argue that LV = Midwest.

LV and Pittsburgh are both border cities as related to the point at issue in that they straddle a couple different regions. in LV's case those regions are SW and Rockies, but NOT MW. which is why you lost me w/that point.

i put LV in the SW, btw.

fuck you.

I guess Erie, Pennsylvania is also an East Coast city.

right on.

fuck you.

and no one considers Maryland the South.

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Look, it's an eastern city, period. It was part of the original 13 colonies. The midwest is is the first part of America's western expansion. Pittsburgh happens to border the fringe of the Midwest. The city is far more similar to Hartford or Baltimore than it is to Iowa City or Madison. It sits in the mountains. The midwest is flat as fuck.

I think you are taking this personal because you moved there but that shit isn't an east coast city.

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I think some of the country's most underrated cities are in the Midwest. Pittsburgh is just not the midwest. When you get out into Wisconsin, Michigan, Minnesota, and Iowa that becomes abundantly clear.

which is abundantly clear after having visited DC, Baltimore, Philly, and NYC along w/having lived in STL and Chicago and having visited Detroit, Cleveland, Indianapolis, Columbus and Cincinnati.

fuck you.

its almost a different state when you drive from Philly to Pittsburgh.

Shit is weird. I think the "Alabama in the middle" has a lot to do with it.

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fuck you.

Just like Buffalo and Rochester. I think the word "Coast" Is the sticking point for some people.

FWIW, the government doesn't consider it the Midwest: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/Census_Regions_and_Divisions.PNG


And as far as it being different from other parts of the state, you could say the same for California

it's the Midwest.

fuck you.

I can see how the map can be used in this argument but it's literally on the bottom left corner touching WV and Ohio.

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Because Pittsburgh isn't like NY, DC, Boston or Philly, it must be midwestern. In reality, if you look at lesser East Coast cities like Hartford, Springfield, MA or any of the Upstate NY cities, you'd see that Pittsburgh is far more similar to them than it is to Indianapolis, Des Moines or Kansas City.

ur in pittsburgh at a very different time that is kinda part and parcel of the standardization/blandification of american cities brought on by urban gentrifiers...thats not the soul of pittsburgh, if u ask most pittsburgh natives if they are from the east coast what do u think they will say

harrisburg has more in common with springfield mass and hartford IMO

but pittsburgh naw

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uh huh.

LOL

looking at your list i think Pittsburgh has much more in common w/Indianapolis than it does w/Hartford. considering Pittsburgh is the anchor of a metro area - ranked by population at #23. Indie is at #33. Hartford is at #47. Springfield is at #88.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Metropolitan_Statistical_Areas

fuck you.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/pittsburgh/1707149-what-pittsburgh-midwest-northeast-other.html

pittsburgh is with buffalo, hartford, northern new jersey, a northeast interior city.

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http://www.city-data.com/forum/35255136-post120.html

Destinations of the largest out-migration flows from the Pittsburgh Metro SA
between 2009 and 2010 included the Washington, DC (1,133 out-migrants),
Philadelphia (1,065 out-migrants), and New York City (1,024 out-migrants) Metro
SAs.

Regions that were the originations of the largest migration flows into the Pittsburgh
Metro SA between 2009 and 2010 were the New York City (1,050 in-migrants) ,
Philadelphia (956 in-migrants) and Washington DC (903 in-migrants) Metro SAs.

The largest gross flows of migration affecting the Pittsburgh Metro SA result from
exchanges of population with the Washington, DC, Philadelphia, and New York City Metro
SAs. Smaller but significant migration flows are generated between Pittsburgh and nearby
Micro SAs, including New Castle (Lawrence County), PA, Youngstown, OH, and Indiana,
PA.

Table 2 shows the CBSAs with the largest in-migration and out-migration flows impacting
the Pittsburgh Metro SA. The Philadelphia and New York Metro SAs and the Indiana, PA
Micro SA, respectively, were the originations of the largest flows of migration into the
Pittsburgh region between 2009 and 2010. The Washington, Philadelphia and New York
Metro SAs attracted the largest outflows of migrants leaving Pittsburgh between 2009 and
2010. Figures 4 and 5 show the pattern of these migration flows for all CBSAs across the
continental United States.

I won't even consider any other classification. Post as many articles as you want. Lol

fuck you.

While I disagree, it's something. But the "culturally midwestern" shit is bs. Population flows into and out of East Coast cities, not Midwestern cities.

Pittsburgh is just in a weird place on the map that its hard to convince anyone... including natives, that it's an East Coast City.

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Boston and Baltimore are twice as big. Philly as 4 times as big and NYC might as well be an order of magnitude larger. It has to be compared to second tier northeastern cities.

fuck you.

and that's only a smidge

and we were a steel manufacturer years ago...

other than that.... i don't see it

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I'd venture that Pittsbrgh has the same white ethnic breakdown as Bmore. Both cities' Black folk came from VA, The Carolinas, GA during The Great Migration, as opposed to the Midwest, which drew most of it's black population from the central south.

And then there's the archetecture:

http://bit.ly/1eHh4GX

A Black man could migrate from VA to Philly and another to Pittsburgh and a generation later you would have totally different mentalities, dialect, slang, etc

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while the Midwest technichally starts at Ohio, Pittsburgh is right up against it.

Growing up we got Ohio and WV TV stations. I'm sorry but that ain't Easy Coast at all.

As a youth I wanted to be Easy Coast but it was so obvious we weren't when I went to Philly, Jersey and Brooklyn. Shit was night and day.

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is just different...

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