6. "John Byrne, Mark Waid, and Ed Brubaker wrote Doom GREAT" In response to Reply # 2
Lots of character development, especially by Byrne and Waid.
Given much of the appeal of Joker as a character is that he doesn't "develop". His motivations and history don't really matter. But Doom motivations and history are what make him such a great character.
10. "Can you recommend some trades?" In response to Reply # 6
>Lots of character development, especially by Byrne and Waid. > >Given much of the appeal of Joker as a character is that he >doesn't "develop". His motivations and history don't really >matter. But Doom motivations and history are what make him >such a great character.
21. "Recommendations for both of y'all:" In response to Reply # 10
"The Book of Doom" by Ed Brubaker. This one comes after the Byrne/Waid stuff, but it's a re-telling of Doom's origin, through his own eyes.
Picking trades for Byrne's stuff is kind of difficult as it's sprinkled throughout his six year run on the title. There's a huge and expensive omnibus of all of it, and there's individual trades. I can't pick out which off the top right now. But it's key in it's interpretation of Doom as a villain, but one with a code and honor.
You can find Waid's best/defining stuff on Doom in the "Unthinkable" trade. He plays up Doom's magical background and transforms him from a "honorable" villain to kind of a sadist obsessed with Reed Richards. Even though it's pretty different than what I listed above, it's still really good stuff.
There's also "Emperor Doom," which I have an affinity for because I read it back when I was 12/13. It shows what would happen if Doom actually succeeded in taking over the world. Not deep or anything, but good fun.
4. "Doom and its not even close" In response to Reply # 0
Doom has a bigger bank account Doom has a whole country with an army at his disposal Doom is the smartest human (next to Reed Richards) on Marvel or DC earth. Doom's armor looks cool Doom's armor has technology on par with Ironman Doom aims higher and tries to do things like steal the Infinity Gauntlet, take Silver Surfer's power cosmic, and go to hell to tell Mesphisto to fuck off.
9. "Thaddeus Sivana is probably smarter than Reed or Doom" In response to Reply # 4
his intellect is so vast he's on par with any of the Brainiacs (all 12th level intellects-the combined intellect of Earth is about a 8th level intellect) and his creations are so advanced they appear to be magical.
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12. "that's definitely a given" In response to Reply # 11
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13. "Meh, not really. Joker swag>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doom swag. " In response to Reply # 4
We know who's more powerful and has more resources, but Joker has consistently been better written over the life of his character than Doom.
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23. "He WAS the villain of Marvel Earth for late '70s, all the '80s..." In response to Reply # 16
...and some of the '90s. And even some of the '00s. Marvel writers seem more interested in going the cosmic route now. And using characters that they "own" for their films.
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