Furthermore, most of the exceptions are cities like Sacramento that have large Hispanic or Asian populations. Cities with substantial black populations tend to be highly segregated
48. "It's counterintuition at work." In response to Reply # 42
The idea is: there's lots of black people in NYC ---->>> every non-black person must know some black people in NYC.
Sometimes when I'm walking around lower Manhattan, I realize I'm the only black person on the sidewalk. Certain trains running through Manhattan, I'll look around and not see any Black people.
we may ride public transport together and flock to some of the same services and stuff but we don't live around each other for the most part. that's nationwide too.
7. "Popped in for a weekend a few weeks ago and I felt the same thing" In response to Reply # 0
Went to the generic tourst-trappy places (Gino's deep dish!, Goose Island Brewery! Hipster shit in Logan Square!) and was struck how little black faces I saw. Negros should enjoy played out generic nights out in their city too.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 80140 posts
Thu May-07-15 01:33 PM
18. "surprised people are surprised by this.. " In response to Reply # 0
but I guess it makes sense because when you think large city you automatically think diversity.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
20. "It all goes back to ethnic enclaves" In response to Reply # 0
If you have traditional Black, Irish, Russian, Polish, Italian, Chinese neighborhoods, your city is going to be pretty segregated.
I do think that a few of these "highly segregated" cities have a very high level of social integration. Multiracial social circles seem more common in these more diverse, yet more segregated cities.
23. "it's about about niggers, really." In response to Reply # 20
"Furthermore, most of the exceptions are cities like Sacramento that have large Hispanic or Asian populations. Cities with substantial black populations tend to be highly segregated."
^ the last sentence right there.
plus look @ that list of the most-integrated cities. none of them are particularly chocolate.
>I do think that a few of these "highly segregated" cities have >a very high level of social integration.
what do you mean 'social integration'?
see also: Big Reg's reply.
here in Chicago i don't experience much social integration. meaning the various races ain't partying together here for the most part. we don't eat together. we don't shop together. we don't see movies together.
we don't even ride the same public transportation. when i first moved here i was tripped the fuck out seeing the racial divide on the L platforms in the Loop. i was @ Jackson on the Red Line waiting for a southbound train for my trip to Hyde Park and noticed that almost all of the ppl waiting for that train were black and Asian (Chinese). and almost all of the ppl waiting to go north were white. it was shocking. b/c upstairs at the street level i saw us all sharing the same sidewalks and going into the same buildings. then on the train i noticed that all of the Asian folks got off at Cermak/Chinatown. after that the train was full of nothing but us blacks. i'm used to it now - to the point where when i see a race outlier on the train i can predict at which stop they'll exit.
Multiracial social >circles seem more common in these more diverse, yet more >segregated cities.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 80140 posts
Thu May-07-15 01:53 PM
24. "as soon as I saw Sacramento I knew it was Hispanics..." In response to Reply # 23 Thu May-07-15 01:58 PM by legsdiamond
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**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 80140 posts
Thu May-07-15 01:59 PM
26. "my first thought was Messicans" In response to Reply # 25
I'm sure those other groups rep but I bet hispanics make up the largest group
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 80140 posts
Thu May-07-15 02:53 PM
34. "more niggas yo... plus a shit load of military niggas in tidewater" In response to Reply # 31
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
35. "You're right. It's probably military" In response to Reply # 34
Those neighborhoods are just filled with GIs who have no attachment to the communities they inhabit. Te apt complex I lived in when I was in the army is probably the most diverse 3 sq blocks I've ever called home.
28. "Yup. However there's cultural bleedover" In response to Reply # 27 Thu May-07-15 02:10 PM by BigReg
Like John Forte was saying above. Like the It 'white' restaurant is playing hip-hop w/ a couple of dudes from the bronx trying to show out and take their boos on a date.
Traditionally outside of stereotypical shit like hockey games it was hard to find truly strictly white places even in white neighborhoods.*
This is obviously changing with gentrification; there's some bars ive gone into in bed stuy and everyone inside is white, lol.
>when i look @ it on the dot map i see more clock blocks than >various dots all next to each other.
*Im talking Manhattan, the outer boroughs were a different story. RIP Yusef Hawkins
29. "RE: Yup. However there's cultural bleedover" In response to Reply # 28
>Like John Forte was saying above. Like the It 'white' >restaurant is playing hip-hop w/ a couple of dudes from the >bronx trying to show out and take their boos on a date.
that's not much for 'social integration'. Hip-Hop stopped being a Black thing more than a dozen years ago. and one or two negros in a joint does not make for 'social integration'.
>Traditionally outside of stereotypical shit like hockey games >it was hard to find truly strictly white places even in white >neighborhoods.
1 or 5 negros among 100 ain't 'social integration'.
45. "Do YOU want integration?" In response to Reply # 0 Mon May-11-15 03:49 PM by astralblak
as an individual and terms of your racial group.
second Q, since many of the posters in here seem to be upwardly mobile people of color, do you live in a neighborhood with your own racial group or are you the brown face in the white area?
third Q, when you are looking for a place to live apartment or house, what do you value most in the area you are looking to stay?
I ask because these are def structural and systemic inequalities that shape and map these communities, but on a personal level you value or desire intergration
46. "I'll take a crack" In response to Reply # 45 Mon May-11-15 04:11 PM by John Forte
>as an individual and terms of your racial group.
I have a multi-racial family so, yes.
>second Q, since many of the posters in here seem to be >upwardly mobile people of color, do you live in a neighborhood >with your own racial group or are you the brown face in the >white area?
There aren't a lot of black people in my neighborhood, BUT it borders a predominantly Black neighborhood so I see black people all the time. My daughter is in a black dance school. I walk 4 blocks to my black barbershop. Our neighborhood is actually 30% Asian. We walk my daughter to the Korean church where she takes Korean class on Saturdays. She plays with kids of all races at the playground
>third Q, when you are looking for a place to live apartment or >house, what do you value most in the area you are looking to >stay?
Walkability, amenities. There is nothing I need that I can't get on foot.
If you were to enter my exact address, the walkscore would go up to 93.
>I ask because these are def structural and systemic >inequalities that shape and map these communities, but on a >personal level you value or desire intergration
I do value integration, but I need to ability to retreat into blackness.
i don't want to live in an all-Black neighborhood. my favorite nabes have actual racial diversity - blacks, non-white Latinos, whites, Asians, et al.
>second Q, since many of the posters in here seem to be >upwardly mobile people of color, do you live in a neighborhood >with your own racial group or are you the brown face in the >white area?
it's actually diverse - one of the few in Chicago. so there are plenty blacks, non-white Latinos, whites and even Asians in my neighborhood.
>third Q, when you are looking for a place to live apartment or >house, what do you value most in the area you are looking to >stay?
relatively safe, conveniently located (for work and play).
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