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"Boardwalk Empire Season Four"
Sun Sep-08-13 02:12 PM by ZooTown74

          

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Looks dope, as always
Jul 15th 2013
1
Luther back. BB in August. BE in September. I'm ready
Jul 15th 2013
2
my cousins in England send me texts about the new season all the time
Jul 16th 2013
6
looks like Dunn Peerrrrnsley about to get his shine finally
Jul 15th 2013
3
Damn..I still havent watched season 3 or
Jul 16th 2013
4
You got a lot of Couch Sundays ahead of you.
Jul 17th 2013
7
My favorite show on TV. CAN'T WAIT!
Jul 16th 2013
5
Well alright alRIGHT ALRIGHT!
Jul 17th 2013
8
Can't wait
Aug 26th 2013
9
I have hope this could be the best season yet
Aug 26th 2013
10
Dr. Valentin Narcisse i'm ready for ya!
Aug 27th 2013
11
I don't want another season of "Nucky almost loses control of...
Aug 27th 2013
12
I think you are right about, Purnsley.
Aug 28th 2013
14
Hyped.
Aug 28th 2013
13
tonight!
Sep 08th 2013
15
I have to wait for the wifey to get home from work
Sep 08th 2013
16
I'm full blown eggs for this season
Sep 08th 2013
17
Dunn Purnsley FTW...
Sep 08th 2013
18
look like he took a loss to me
Sep 09th 2013
19
Chalky better watch out talking to him like that
Sep 09th 2013
20
      speaking of which...who was Chalkie's original right hand
Sep 09th 2013
25
is his eye worse?
Sep 09th 2013
21
      I noticed that too.
Sep 09th 2013
23
Herc!
Sep 09th 2013
22
word its nice to see him again
Sep 09th 2013
24
Great start. No Margaret
Sep 09th 2013
26
no clue...i thought he was on a mission but he went home
Sep 09th 2013
28
I was confused about Harrow's killings too
Sep 09th 2013
29
Word
Sep 10th 2013
30
oh shit, good call
Sep 10th 2013
32
Ahhh ok
Sep 10th 2013
34
you may be on to something there...
Sep 11th 2013
36
      They gave a REALLY oblique clue
Sep 11th 2013
38
           i like the theory though...it makes sense to me
Sep 13th 2013
40
RE: No Margaret
Sep 10th 2013
31
yeah i was pretty bored by the Gillian scenes
Sep 10th 2013
33
agreed...as great as Mol has been in this series
Sep 11th 2013
35
So damn sick of her character
Sep 25th 2013
104
They just gotta let that nigga kill somebody in an episode.
Sep 11th 2013
37
For some reason, horrible acts of inhumanity sound so pleasant
Sep 09th 2013
27
LOL @ that couple thinking it's a game
Sep 13th 2013
39
they probably pulled that shit all the time with performers
Sep 13th 2013
41
      Yup.
Sep 16th 2013
48
remarkable hour of TV,....superb first episode
Sep 13th 2013
42
no Valentin yet? *kicks post and walks away*
Sep 14th 2013
43
Jeffery Wright is a beast...
Sep 15th 2013
44
I've never been so happy to see a bitch die in all my life.
Sep 16th 2013
45
RIGHT?!
Sep 16th 2013
49
There's been a couple times I have, but I'm with u
Sep 16th 2013
54
YEP
Sep 17th 2013
64
the dr. is IN...
Sep 16th 2013
46
that last scene with him and Chalky....
Sep 16th 2013
47
Yo, REALTALK: I hate that dude.
Sep 16th 2013
50
LoL @ that mixed things are diluted talk & being Trini tho.
Sep 16th 2013
51
Part of me thinks the Trini and the speech....
Sep 16th 2013
52
RE: LoL @ that mixed things are diluted talk & being Trini tho.
Sep 16th 2013
55
The accent is decent. Not great, but not bad.
Sep 16th 2013
57
      RE: The accent is decent. Not great, but not bad.
Sep 17th 2013
63
           It ain't really sound Jamaican, to me. Kinda generic Caribbean at times.
Sep 17th 2013
66
                RE: It ain't really sound Jamaican, to me. Kinda generic Caribbean at ti...
Sep 17th 2013
68
                     Lol. If enough people say it, it's gotta be true.
Sep 17th 2013
69
I always love those eyes in the rearview mirror shots
Sep 16th 2013
53
i'm kinda torn on the Richard thing
Sep 17th 2013
70
      Did you see the preview for next week?
Sep 18th 2013
71
           nope
Sep 18th 2013
72
Was Stephen Root's character lying
Sep 16th 2013
56
Means just said Knox was from where he said he was, which was true
Sep 17th 2013
58
      This is what I thought
Sep 17th 2013
59
The rise of Eddie
Sep 17th 2013
60
another mistake...
Sep 17th 2013
61
      EXACTLY, what I was thinking.
Sep 17th 2013
62
           perhaps this is the introduction...
Sep 17th 2013
65
                I feel like Nucky's interfaith/interracial/interethnic relationships are
Sep 17th 2013
67
Chalky is either not as smart or as cold as i gave him credit for
Sep 19th 2013
73
I found that a lil' odd too.
Sep 20th 2013
74
it was
Sep 24th 2013
91
That's assuming
Sep 20th 2013
75
chalky's smarter than that...
Sep 20th 2013
76
^^ this is what I was thinking...
Sep 20th 2013
77
you dont need clearance to take out a black man
Sep 24th 2013
92
      this is inaccurate...
Sep 25th 2013
100
           Thing is he didn't check him out
Oct 07th 2013
141
                you wait for the tell...
Oct 14th 2013
186
he's a somebody. Chalky can't just kill him
Sep 20th 2013
78
he realized he needed to check dude out first
Sep 23rd 2013
82
*acres of diamonds*
Sep 23rd 2013
79
Pitching that Talented Tenth logic....
Sep 23rd 2013
80
I read this in Dr. Narcisse's voice
Sep 23rd 2013
81
I could be wrong, but I have a feeling that Chalky and Dunn....
Sep 23rd 2013
83
      there are plenty scenarios there...
Sep 23rd 2013
85
      Y'know, that's a good point too.
Sep 23rd 2013
86
           he gon lose something
Sep 24th 2013
95
                covering all bases...
Sep 24th 2013
96
      I think Purnsley is genuinely looking to get over on Chalky
Sep 24th 2013
99
that "moth to a flame" shot was a little too much.
Sep 23rd 2013
84
Narsisse wiping his hands
Sep 23rd 2013
87
they making his character too uppity which leads one to think that he's
Sep 24th 2013
89
It was a huge part of the dialogue back....
Sep 24th 2013
90
definitely a set up
Sep 24th 2013
93
I actually liked that tho.
Sep 25th 2013
102
purnsleys eye?--
Sep 24th 2013
88
ptosis?
Sep 25th 2013
101
Where they put the bodies?
Sep 24th 2013
94
I recall one scene where Richard's sister walks from behind the barn
Sep 24th 2013
97
      i saw that
Oct 16th 2013
203
*google image search* Margot Bingham
Sep 24th 2013
98
lol
Sep 25th 2013
103
RE: *google image search* Margot Bingham
Oct 02nd 2013
121
CAPONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MEYER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...
Sep 30th 2013
105
That was such a good episode
Sep 30th 2013
106
This is precisely what I said when this ep ended.
Sep 30th 2013
108
Allow me to reintroduce myself....
Oct 01st 2013
112
we're all just dying for them to play a more focal role
Oct 02nd 2013
117
Very very minor point
Sep 30th 2013
107
I thought a duppy was a ghost/curse too
Oct 01st 2013
115
Kind of unnerving to see Rothstein take L's like this
Oct 01st 2013
109
Yea ... I thought it was *really* interesting ...
Oct 01st 2013
110
I actually liked it. It showed the character's arrogance.
Oct 01st 2013
111
      Yup. And he did it again at the card table
Oct 01st 2013
113
      Oh, I liked it, too
Oct 01st 2013
114
      Exactly
Oct 02nd 2013
116
      true it's just bugged out cause we never saw him like this
Oct 02nd 2013
118
Man, I wish I spoke Yiddish
Oct 02nd 2013
119
so eli's son is gunna end up dropping out of school
Oct 02nd 2013
120
either that or he's..
Oct 02nd 2013
123
really dope episode--
Oct 02nd 2013
122
I like Eli's kid storyline.
Oct 06th 2013
124
:-( :-( :-(
Oct 06th 2013
125
man, this ep was sad as shit
Oct 06th 2013
126
My mom was a heroin addict and that shit was too close to home
Oct 07th 2013
131
everyone wants a piece of the action...
Oct 06th 2013
127
the info Eddie gave up seems harmless though
Oct 07th 2013
129
knowledge is power...
Oct 07th 2013
130
come on now...it wasn't even a testimony
Oct 07th 2013
143
      you couldn't be more wrong...
Oct 07th 2013
146
           agree to disagree...they thought they had an informant and now they dont
Oct 07th 2013
147
                not really a disagreement...
Oct 07th 2013
150
                     you saying i couldn't be more wrong = disagreement
Oct 07th 2013
152
                          its simple...
Oct 07th 2013
153
                               what'd i tell you...Hoover aint trying to hear none of that shit
Oct 14th 2013
189
                                    i think you missed my point...
Oct 15th 2013
196
seemed to be mindficking him.. contrasting how giving up tidbits of info
Oct 07th 2013
132
interrogation as we know it in it's infancy
Oct 07th 2013
133
It was
Oct 07th 2013
138
As others said, he knows that's going to be his future
Oct 07th 2013
134
agreed but they have to find a new weak link now...
Oct 07th 2013
145
the letter was in german, likely to his sons
Oct 08th 2013
155
That's the point. It is seemingly harmless
Oct 07th 2013
136
      you're missing my point...
Oct 07th 2013
144
           Oh, I see what you're saying.
Oct 07th 2013
149
You know
Oct 07th 2013
142
Best ep of the season by far
Oct 07th 2013
128
It was very good, but I preferred last week's
Oct 07th 2013
135
see, last week's was nothing special to me
Oct 07th 2013
137
"He thought he was better than me. But he wasn't."
Oct 07th 2013
140
      yeah, that's def when Nuck saw it in him. plus not having kids is
Oct 07th 2013
148
love these little tidbits
Oct 07th 2013
139
Chalky has to know Pernsely is dealing.
Oct 07th 2013
151
good point
Oct 08th 2013
154
RE: good point
Oct 08th 2013
158
Not necessarily
Oct 08th 2013
156
      RE: Not necessarily
Oct 08th 2013
163
           The mystery surrounding who told her is intriguing...
Oct 08th 2013
164
how are they going to kill two great characters
Oct 08th 2013
157
She's just boring at this point
Oct 08th 2013
159
HELL no.
Oct 08th 2013
160
lol... patience...
Oct 08th 2013
161
^^^^
Oct 08th 2013
162
you and Brew act like i'm gonna stop watching the show over it
Oct 08th 2013
169
      Word.
Oct 09th 2013
170
this show seems to keep getting better, but im done with Gillian
Oct 08th 2013
166
I agree re: the show getting better...
Oct 08th 2013
167
Frank had to die for Al to change/grow/step up
Oct 08th 2013
168
      And also...the "coke" thing is a problem
Oct 09th 2013
172
           I got a lot of shades of Scarface from that episode.
Oct 17th 2013
207
I just wanted to voice my approval for the Margaret-free season.
Oct 08th 2013
165
co-sign
Oct 09th 2013
171
word.
Oct 09th 2013
173
and she back
Oct 14th 2013
176
cool jinx, bro
Oct 14th 2013
187
Don't speak too soon!
Oct 15th 2013
199
Tonight on Boardwalk Empire ...
Oct 13th 2013
174
yo
Oct 13th 2013
175
he hates that dude, hoard
Oct 14th 2013
177
another reason i forgot i like this show
Oct 14th 2013
178
not sure i see your connection/comparison...
Oct 14th 2013
182
      so far
Oct 14th 2013
183
           interesting comparison...
Oct 14th 2013
185
                RE: interesting comparison...
Oct 15th 2013
198
One of the most agonizing opening scenes ever
Oct 14th 2013
179
Oct 14th 2013
180
^^^my exact reaction
Oct 14th 2013
184
OMG, that was SO priceless.
Oct 15th 2013
200
it was
Oct 16th 2013
204
an easy conversation...
Oct 14th 2013
181
is there anything to Eli looking at the hankerchief?
Oct 14th 2013
188
i'm curious too. i didn't know if it had to do with Eddie...
Oct 14th 2013
190
Didn't one of he agents hand him the handkerchief when they sucker punch...
Oct 14th 2013
191
good call...could be that too
Oct 14th 2013
192
That's what I thought. I thought it might be the initials of the club/ba...
Oct 15th 2013
195
      agreed
Oct 15th 2013
197
the initials on it are JTM and Hoover keeps referring to the agent
Oct 14th 2013
193
      ahh that makes sense
Oct 14th 2013
194
      Excellent catch.
Oct 16th 2013
201
           i don't think it was intentional...
Oct 16th 2013
202
                yes...but i dont want it to be eli
Oct 16th 2013
205
                     how do you form attachment...
Oct 16th 2013
206
                     badge or no, Knox doesn't want to fuck with Eli
Oct 17th 2013
208
                          Let's also not forget that Eli buried some dude in the dirt
Oct 17th 2013
209
                               ^^ this is the correct answer.
Oct 17th 2013
210
                               Both Knox and J.Edgar Hoover
Oct 17th 2013
212
                                    True but Knox also made it clear...
Oct 17th 2013
213
                               wasn't it his deputy?
Oct 17th 2013
211
                                    definitely in the woodshop.. not sure if it was
Oct 17th 2013
214
ok i figured that the narcisse/daughter maitland connect would be deep
Oct 21st 2013
215
I was thinking the same thing when he stood up in that church meeting
Oct 21st 2013
216
      I CANNOT get ove your avy.
Oct 21st 2013
225
Oct 21st 2013
217
Something about him feels too good to be true...
Oct 21st 2013
218
      RE: Something about him feels too good to be true...
Oct 21st 2013
219
      the god, the bad, and the ugly...
Oct 21st 2013
220
      Oh, that dude is shady as shit
Oct 21st 2013
232
damn good episode--
Oct 21st 2013
221
RE: damn good episode--
Oct 21st 2013
222
yep those minutes they spend--
Oct 21st 2013
223
      Yea I think that storyline will be good.
Oct 21st 2013
224
her connecting with AR is proof we're not done with Margaret
Oct 21st 2013
228
      if it means more AR--
Oct 21st 2013
230
      prolly. :(
Oct 22nd 2013
240
Cotdamnit! I thought we were done w/ Mrs. Schroeder.
Oct 21st 2013
226
So did Al and Herc orchestrate that bust on Torrio?
Oct 21st 2013
227
^^^ this was my thought as well
Oct 21st 2013
233
Definitely felt that way
Oct 21st 2013
235
That Daughter/Narcisse shit is twisted
Oct 21st 2013
229
i like the stuff with Eli's kid
Oct 21st 2013
231
      Agreed...
Oct 21st 2013
234
           i think it's heading for Gillian complietely fucking him over
Oct 22nd 2013
238
                Yep I could see either of these haha.
Oct 22nd 2013
239
                RE: i think it's heading for Gillian complietely fucking him over
Oct 22nd 2013
242
So Pernsley
Oct 21st 2013
236
I think he was more so out in the open as a rep for Chalky.
Oct 22nd 2013
237
Nah, but only cuz he killed the rev.
Oct 22nd 2013
241
      chalky's distraction...
Oct 23rd 2013
244
           He dont care nothin about that wedding...thats all on his wife.
Oct 23rd 2013
246
                RE: He dont care nothin about that wedding...thats all on his wife.
Oct 23rd 2013
247
                Never figured him to be like that...creepin on his wife
Oct 23rd 2013
254
                reading is fundamental...
Oct 23rd 2013
255
I kinda wish The Good Doctor was just a normal gangster
Oct 23rd 2013
243
define regular?..
Oct 23rd 2013
245
yea, most of the "good guys"' vices are as simple as drugs, th...
Oct 23rd 2013
249
Van Alden had his own weird self-inflicted sadistic sexual shit...
Oct 23rd 2013
250
vices...
Oct 23rd 2013
252
I know "regular" is a bad term to use
Oct 23rd 2013
251
      i think that's kinda the point...
Oct 23rd 2013
253
I wish Jeffrey Wright
Oct 23rd 2013
248
the old ship of zion...
Oct 28th 2013
256
what do you mean? dude was just sweating
Oct 28th 2013
257
He was lost in that song/daughter world.
Oct 28th 2013
258
rewatch the ep/scene...
Oct 28th 2013
259
      i'll check it again...
Oct 28th 2013
262
Props to all involved...
Oct 28th 2013
260
      reflection...
Oct 28th 2013
261
that chalky/dunn scene was 1 of the more intense tv scenes i've seen
Oct 28th 2013
263
it reminded me of the Dority vs. Hearst's guy scene from Deadwood
Oct 28th 2013
264
RE: it reminded me of the Dority vs. Hearst's guy scene from Deadwood
Oct 28th 2013
271
      well he had been smartening up all ep, maybe he was just ready to die
Oct 28th 2013
272
           Agree with every second of this. Well said.
Oct 30th 2013
279
the look on his face when he was being choked out
Oct 28th 2013
265
I don't think this will be a lasting dynamic
Oct 28th 2013
266
Agreed. He's seen what happens when he goes against family
Oct 28th 2013
267
yup--
Oct 28th 2013
268
i hope you're right
Oct 29th 2013
277
the eli/nucky cycle is likely to continue...
Oct 28th 2013
269
Anyone else think there was anything to Narcisse's play
Oct 28th 2013
270
I loved what he said afterwards.
Oct 29th 2013
273
he's such an asshole lol
Oct 29th 2013
274
I loved how BAD it was and yet how moved he was.
Oct 29th 2013
275
      The 1920's version of Good & Terrible
Oct 29th 2013
276
      Man, did you see that bored stagehand bringing sloooowly
Oct 29th 2013
278
Re: Eli vs. Nuck
Oct 30th 2013
280
i agree. i don't see them going back to that well again
Oct 31st 2013
284
      Yep yep and yep.
Oct 31st 2013
So is Chalky still being gamed by Daughter?
Oct 30th 2013
281
Oct 30th 2013
282
no, i think she was genuinely moved by his tears
Oct 31st 2013
285
      exactly, get chalky to trust her more for what? Purnsley had him dead
Nov 01st 2013
286
So what *was* the deal with Dunn's eye?
Oct 31st 2013
283
fucking heat rocks--
Nov 04th 2013
287
Van Alden making it rain on dem hoes!
Nov 04th 2013
288
lol
Nov 04th 2013
293
Yo. His wife looked sexxy as fuck in that last scene.
Nov 04th 2013
300
My name is Nelson Van Alden, an' we 'bout to fuck on all this money
Nov 04th 2013
301
damn, Nucky just came up huge on muscle
Nov 04th 2013
289
None...they're both playing an angle...
Nov 04th 2013
291
I'm thinking that fake Jimmy she killed was somebody and Livingston was
Nov 04th 2013
296
      never thought about that, but that would be dope
Nov 04th 2013
298
      Yep - I made this call in post #239.
Nov 04th 2013
299
      My ears perked up when he asked her
Nov 05th 2013
319
           What am I, chopped liver?
Nov 05th 2013
320
                LOL... props, I remember someone up top mentioning something about
Nov 05th 2013
324
                     Haha. Thanks.
Nov 05th 2013
325
                     but the way Livingston looked at her when he asked her what would she do
Nov 05th 2013
326
                          Light bulb!
Nov 05th 2013
327
                               seems like a stretch...they're way too broke for all that
Nov 06th 2013
331
                                    Good point.
Nov 06th 2013
332
Liscenses: Marriage and Hunting
Nov 04th 2013
290
I'm gonna bite my tongue because my gangster history is pretty legit.
Nov 04th 2013
292
this show is gonna end up in my all-time top 5
Nov 04th 2013
294
Yea this show is nutty.
Nov 04th 2013
295
attention to detail...
Nov 05th 2013
315
      gonna have to rewatch that scene... was watching it on Go on my phone
Nov 05th 2013
322
Rothstein's mess is gainin on him! (*Spoiler*)
Nov 04th 2013
297
it's painful to watch him lose like this
Nov 04th 2013
310
Is it possible that policy on Doyle was a scam?
Nov 05th 2013
321
Tip o' the hat to Patricia Arquette's mighty jam balls....
Nov 04th 2013
303
those things are something else. can't stand her granny hair though
Nov 04th 2013
304
He WAY overstepped.
Nov 04th 2013
307
man when they cut to her in bed i was like "WOAH"
Nov 04th 2013
311
I almost thought
Nov 04th 2013
312
been peeped since last episode!
Nov 05th 2013
314
      Just gained weight.
Nov 05th 2013
316
           lol
Nov 05th 2013
317
           It's DEFINITELY good weight gain.
Nov 05th 2013
318
                mos def, cuz Rosanna could still so get da bizniss!
Nov 05th 2013
323
hunting and marriage...
Nov 04th 2013
305
Who built this house!
Nov 04th 2013
306
RE: Who built this house!
Nov 04th 2013
308
And to think, I hated his character so much in season one
Nov 04th 2013
313
      always liked him as an actor but i wasn't a fan of Van Alden
Nov 05th 2013
328
           So, so damn well...
Nov 05th 2013
329
                Doyle's the most annoying character but i love to hate him
Nov 05th 2013
330
Richard's face when he walked in that courtroom
Nov 04th 2013
309
been doing 2/3 episode catchup marathons all year, but TONIGHT
Nov 10th 2013
333
restraint!
Nov 10th 2013
334
godamn i love this show--
Nov 11th 2013
335
You think so?
Nov 12th 2013
352
      yeah that's how i read it too...Eli came to terms with things
Nov 13th 2013
380
Damn Narcise covered bases
Nov 11th 2013
336
*white horse pike*
Nov 11th 2013
337
I love the work Jeffery Wright is doing. That being said....
Nov 11th 2013
338
I lost it when Narcisse slipped and said, "He nuh ready fi dis" to Nuck
Nov 11th 2013
339
only thing i don't get is how Narcise leveraged the mayor
Nov 11th 2013
340
RE: only thing i don't get is how Narcise leveraged the mayor
Nov 11th 2013
345
      RE: only thing i don't get is how Narcise leveraged the mayor
Nov 13th 2013
371
i think theyve set it up--
Nov 11th 2013
343
yup...all of this
Nov 13th 2013
381
RE: I love the work Jeffery Wright is doing. That being said....
Nov 11th 2013
346
Agreed. In ANYWORLD Narcise would've died when he visited nuck
Nov 12th 2013
358
      That's the thing. I get them taking the risk
Nov 12th 2013
361
is narcisse hoover's "friend in harlem"?
Nov 11th 2013
341
No He is Masseria's Man & The Mayors Man in the North Side
Nov 12th 2013
353
on the main facts they've been very accurate.
Nov 12th 2013
365
I thought the friend in Harlem was simply the black guy sitting at the t...
Nov 12th 2013
366
      yeah but Hoover told THAT guy to give something to the friend in harlem
Nov 13th 2013
382
Louis Gossett Jr!!
Nov 11th 2013
342
chalky's daughter is naive...
Nov 12th 2013
351
Not sure if I buy Chalky going 007 on those dudes in the car
Nov 11th 2013
344
Regarding the prior seasons DVD releases for this show
Nov 11th 2013
347
Out of curiosity
Nov 11th 2013
348
Shit ain't new to her at all
Nov 11th 2013
349
im not bothered by her like i was last season
Nov 12th 2013
350
I like her storyline this season.
Nov 12th 2013
354
Her plotline is better due to the fact that it's been decreased.
Nov 12th 2013
359
Question about Chalky's daughter
Nov 12th 2013
355
I thought she said the dude canceled the wedding
Nov 12th 2013
362
      his parents cancelled...
Nov 12th 2013
364
           That I understand, but Narcisse snuck into the photo
Nov 13th 2013
374
                real criminals hide in plain sight...
Nov 13th 2013
375
                even if she recognizes him from the photo
Nov 13th 2013
383
ya'll know Chalky is fixing to die, right?
Nov 12th 2013
356
I don't see him surviving this season either
Nov 12th 2013
357
They appear to be setting up, I don't think they gon do it, tho.
Nov 12th 2013
360
if Wright stays on he could be Marlo to Chalky's Avon
Nov 12th 2013
363
as long as no bitch ass kid shoots him from behind, im good.
Nov 12th 2013
367
Nah, I'm thinking his baby girl gets got
Nov 12th 2013
368
^^not paying attention^^
Nov 13th 2013
372
      Ah I was thinking off as in postponed
Nov 13th 2013
377
Yeah, I'm thinking so, too
Nov 13th 2013
370
it appears so...which makes me think he'll live
Nov 13th 2013
384
Narcisse is gonna use his daughter to draw him out
Nov 14th 2013
386
does anybody remember the history between Chalky & Harrow?
Nov 13th 2013
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jimmy and harrow delivered the kkk to chalky back in season 1 or 2
Nov 13th 2013
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      It was Season 2. The finale.
Nov 13th 2013
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      oh yeaaaaah, I forgot about that
Nov 13th 2013
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      RE: jimmy and harrow delivered the kkk to chalky back in season 1 or 2
Nov 13th 2013
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this show is so much better than everything i watch right now
Nov 13th 2013
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Nov 14th 2013
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well, if I know my mob history correctly, I don't think Johnny and Al
Nov 14th 2013
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yup. and they've been really good at not changing history
Nov 18th 2013
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RE: this show is so much better than everything i watch right now
Nov 15th 2013
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it hasn't won me over yet but i'm still watching
Nov 15th 2013
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Torrio's likely taking a vacation at the end of this season
Nov 17th 2013
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*havre de grace*
Nov 18th 2013
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for an episode mostly lacking ***action***, I'm more mystified than ever
Nov 18th 2013
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One
Nov 19th 2013
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I didn't really love the Gillian storyline (despite the fact that I pred...
Nov 18th 2013
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definitely a good call
Nov 18th 2013
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RE: definitely a good call
Nov 18th 2013
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agreed
Nov 18th 2013
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The proposal was a promise of a new life.
Nov 20th 2013
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      I don't think you understood my point/question...
Nov 20th 2013
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did Daughter set Chalkie up?
Nov 18th 2013
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RE: did Daughter set Chalkie up?
Nov 18th 2013
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him being ready to run made me think that was it
Nov 18th 2013
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the man playing checkers...
Nov 18th 2013
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The gillian comeupence was so hollow for me.
Nov 18th 2013
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      you may be speaking too soon...
Nov 18th 2013
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           yeah, seems she bounced, but wasn't the one who gave him up
Nov 18th 2013
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                he didn't really do it for her...
Nov 19th 2013
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                     he was off his game because of her though
Nov 19th 2013
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                          I agree the perception is hurting him
Nov 19th 2013
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                               yeah, the club was a factor as well.
Nov 19th 2013
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                               well the characters only know what they see
Nov 19th 2013
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                               Dr narcisse brought her in
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                                    by the time she got there the mess had already been made
Nov 19th 2013
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                                         shes there for a reason
Nov 20th 2013
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a few predictions: (possible spoilers?)
Nov 18th 2013
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I think it's a wrap for
Nov 20th 2013
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I was thinking maybe...
Nov 20th 2013
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      Van Alden looks like he's all in
Nov 20th 2013
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I totally see Eli popping Knox.
Nov 20th 2013
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Die list:
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Dark horse death possibility:
Nov 20th 2013
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      Welp.
Nov 25th 2013
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           yeah, they wouldn't do Tommy that way
Nov 25th 2013
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                :(
Nov 25th 2013
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Good so far...
Nov 20th 2013
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Someone help explain that ending for Eli.
Nov 24th 2013
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my guess is Nucky didn't want to tell his son
Nov 24th 2013
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he's on the lam. not good to tell his son where he really is
Nov 25th 2013
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RE: Boardwalk Empire Season Four
Nov 24th 2013
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this is where I'm at.. Winter is playing the card he played with Jimmy
Nov 25th 2013
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damn...that finale sequence with Richard hit me hard
Nov 24th 2013
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"It" just happened. I just spent 30 secs going "NOOOOOOOO!!!"
Nov 25th 2013
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Sad as fuck
Nov 25th 2013
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damn....--
Nov 25th 2013
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*farewell daddy blues*
Nov 25th 2013
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This scene was underplayed.
Nov 25th 2013
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perfect execution...
Nov 25th 2013
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RE: *farewell daddy blues*
Nov 26th 2013
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      Yea they're cool, you got this right.
Nov 26th 2013
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I'm fucking sick & disappointed
Nov 25th 2013
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fantastic writing
Nov 25th 2013
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as much i dug Harrow--
Nov 25th 2013
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Don't know if I care enough *spoiler*
Nov 25th 2013
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he gotta bend over and be the white man's bitch
Nov 25th 2013
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fuck that, he needed to be beaten BY CHALKY.
Nov 25th 2013
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Co fucking sign
Nov 25th 2013
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      agreed
Nov 25th 2013
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*silently laughs in the face of all the critics who called this show lif...
Nov 25th 2013
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With Breaking Bad gone, this might be the best drama on TV now
Nov 25th 2013
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Enjoyed the finale...Every bit of it...
Nov 25th 2013
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I wanted to fight the air like Tre when Harrow died man
Nov 25th 2013
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+1
Nov 25th 2013
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Loved the finale, but the Harrow situation, I'm bitter over
Nov 25th 2013
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Boardwalk Empire death toll as of Season 4
Nov 25th 2013
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      Also add
Nov 25th 2013
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I guess the Margaret/Rothstein storyline will be bigger next season
Nov 25th 2013
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they showed him moving her into the new place
Nov 25th 2013
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Rothstein lets Margaret into the apartment during the final montage
Nov 25th 2013
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During the montage...
Nov 25th 2013
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love how Hoover just bagged a huge link to all organized crime in americ...
Nov 25th 2013
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He's been FOCUSED all year...lol
Nov 25th 2013
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That was pretty much Hoover though
Nov 25th 2013
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Yep
Nov 25th 2013
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That was the reality tho.
Nov 26th 2013
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So I binged watched this, they fucked up Chalky's character
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mrhood75
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1. "Looks dope, as always"
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2. "Luther back. BB in August. BE in September. I'm ready"
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6. "my cousins in England send me texts about the new season all the time"
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im chomping at the bit for that shit as well.

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3. "looks like Dunn Peerrrrnsley about to get his shine finally"
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I can only hope... maybe my favorite character on the show

  

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4. "Damn..I still havent watched season 3 or"
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the last season of BB or Seasons 3 of GOT

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7. "You got a lot of Couch Sundays ahead of you."
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5. "My favorite show on TV. CAN'T WAIT!"
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8. "Well alright alRIGHT ALRIGHT!"
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Love this show.

Hope this trailer isn't an indication of how much (or little) we'll see Richard this year. He better be prominent. Easily my favorite character.

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9. "Can't wait"
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10. "I have hope this could be the best season yet"
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11. "Dr. Valentin Narcisse i'm ready for ya!"
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12. "I don't want another season of "Nucky almost loses control of..."
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...Atlantic City." Please. They've done it for three straight seasons. There's got to be some other way to create a season-long arc that doesn't depend on an outsider or someone he was once close to trying to knock him off his throne, or the Feds getting ready to arrest him.

That said, I've got a feeling that this is the season things don't go so hot for Chalky. He's done pretty damn well for himself for the first three seasons. I'm think Narcisse is going to be his rival. And Purnsley may even turn on him.

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14. "I think you are right about, Purnsley."
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Hopefully.

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13. "Hyped."
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Bout to witness, Nucky climb back to the top.
Cannot wait till, O'Banion and Capone start dancing.
AR, on some federal indictment shit.
Lucky, on his own.
MASSAREIA MAD.
Drugged up, Jillian.

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15. "tonight!"
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16. "I have to wait for the wifey to get home from work"
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So about 4 more hours till I watch

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17. "I'm full blown eggs for this season"
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¿If a fat guy falls in the woods and there is no one around to see it, do the trees laugh?

  

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18. "Dunn Purnsley FTW..."
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Sweetback!


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19. "look like he took a loss to me"
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they're definitely sparking that tension between him and Chalky back up though.

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20. "Chalky better watch out talking to him like that"
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25. "speaking of which...who was Chalkie's original right hand"
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did he have one before dude showed up? seems odd that this is his main guy and he doesnt' have someone around that he trusts and didn't need to threaten in order to keep in line. i like the character and all but it's funny how he's the only one ever around with Chalk considering the way they met.

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21. "is his eye worse?"
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It looked like it last night. He straight killed dude with that bottle lmao

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23. "I noticed that too."
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Shit was kinda off putting in some of them shots.

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22. "Herc!"
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Back on the HBO payroll.

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24. "word its nice to see him again"
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he looks funny with that hair though

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26. "Great start. No Margaret"
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The dumb girl Nucky threw out mentioned Owney Madden... the same guy Purnsley's white girl is connected too.

She showed her cards way too fast. At least pretend to like the guy for a little while. Meeting more women like this will probably push him into trying to get Margaret back though

Any speculation on who the guys Richard is killing are?

  

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28. "no clue...i thought he was on a mission but he went home"
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>Any speculation on who the guys Richard is killing are?

wonder if we'll ever find out

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29. "I was confused about Harrow's killings too"
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He took something out of the pocket of the 2nd guy and something from the desk of the 3rd guy

  

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30. "Word"
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Ole girl showed her cards ENTIRELY too early. I like the way Nuck played it tho.

I have a feeling the family farm was in trouble. I think Harrow took out all the cats that were threatening it.

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32. "oh shit, good call"
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>I have a feeling the family farm was in trouble. I think
>Harrow took out all the cats that were threatening it.

so the first guys being hired muscle to move her off? definite possibility. would explain her shotgun greeting

>Ole girl showed her cards ENTIRELY too early. I like the way
>Nuck played it tho.

soon as Eddie came out, i was like YEEEAAA! Nuck was hurt though. he calmly demoted her to prostitute status and had the help throw her out

  

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34. "Ahhh ok"
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>Ole girl showed her cards ENTIRELY too early. I like the way
>Nuck played it tho.


Agreed


>I have a feeling the family farm was in trouble. I think
>Harrow took out all the cats that were threatening it.
>
>

I was wondering what I was missing
I'm just like please don't let this be a goodbye
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36. "you may be on to something there..."
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>I have a feeling the family farm was in trouble. I think
>Harrow took out all the cats that were threatening it.

but odd that they wouldn't set it up in any way

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38. "They gave a REALLY oblique clue"
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The last dude he was fucking with was looking at some paperwork/envelope with something, something, Title/Insurance Co. on it.

You see that + the time period + the way ole girl came out w/the shotty IN HAND.

Then again, I could be ENTIRELY wrong.

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40. "i like the theory though...it makes sense to me"
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31. "RE: No Margaret"
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yeah. Now if they'd just drop Gillian's ass.

I get that they keep her around because there's only two "strong" female roles on this show, but she seriously is useless as a character without Jimmy.

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33. "yeah i was pretty bored by the Gillian scenes"
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i'm hoping Livingston can help make them interesting

  

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35. "agreed...as great as Mol has been in this series"
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i have no clue what they plan on doing with her. I was hoping she'd just go away and Tommy lived happily ever after with the other girl

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104. "So damn sick of her character"
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37. "They just gotta let that nigga kill somebody in an episode."
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27. "For some reason, horrible acts of inhumanity sound so pleasant"
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when set to a 1920's jazz score.

I'm trying to think how they'll symbolize Gretchen Mol's heroin-induced downfall, seeing as how this is a woman who voluntarily fucked her own son.

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39. "LOL @ that couple thinking it's a game"
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Purnsley don't plat dat!!

...Nuck just through some money at the problem and hopes it'll all be ok....

...it was a set up episode, but it was mostly just ok for me...

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41. "they probably pulled that shit all the time with performers"
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and tried to up the stakes with a black man who was actually dangerous, to up the excitement factor.

>Purnsley don't plat dat!!

  

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48. "Yup."
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42. "remarkable hour of TV,....superb first episode"
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43. "no Valentin yet? *kicks post and walks away*"
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only compelling character is richard at the moment
and it looks like they are literally putting him out to farm



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44. "Jeffery Wright is a beast..."
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HBO needs to give him and chalky a show by themselves. Quickly!

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45. "I've never been so happy to see a bitch die in all my life."
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lol

Great episode. Totally forgot they were bringing in Hoover this season. Love seeing MKW actually get shit to do. And the look Van Alden gave after he got hit that first time and the switch turned in his head? Awwwww shit.

God Ilove this show.

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49. "RIGHT?!"
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54. "There's been a couple times I have, but I'm with u"
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64. "YEP"
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>And the
>look Van Alden gave after he got hit that first time and the
>switch turned in his head? Awwwww shit.
>
>God Ilove this show.

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46. "the dr. is IN..."
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..the true dilemma of this series is nucky's tunnel vision. his uneasy conversations with eddie remind us of this at every turn. regardless of the auxiliary characters & issues, this will always be the greatest challenge of nucky's life.

van alden's evolution continues to provide depth and humor to such a stark period in history. while his presence is measured, his impact through physical expression knows no boundaries.

its nice to see richard harrow finally get his due. while his character quickly became a fan favorite among viewers, his development was shallow. that the writers deliberately allowed his past to unfold over time shows great confidence. such a stoic individual since his introduction, he finally shows his humanity at home on the farm. this man is much more than a hired gun.

"..a servent, pretending to be a king..."

words that burn, down to the core of a man. an incredible introduction to dr. valentine narcisse. still uncertain how much of a factor he'll play in this series, but rest assured jeffrey wright will make the most of every scene. the convo/scene with nucky, chalky, & dr. narcisse was worth the weight of this entire series. its quite obvious that wright's delivery is the balance.


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47. "that last scene with him and Chalky...."
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he stayed so calm and Chalky throwing the f-bombs shows the two characters well. A holy roller who isn't afraid to be a paper gangster or take out somebody. I'm all in on him.

  

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50. "Yo, REALTALK: I hate that dude."
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51. "LoL @ that mixed things are diluted talk & being Trini tho."
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Also, is his Trini accent even close??

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52. "Part of me thinks the Trini and the speech...."
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...is all for show, and that we'll find he isn't who he says he is. That in the end, Chalky will prove to be a King and that the Doc will be revealed to be the servant.

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55. "RE: LoL @ that mixed things are diluted talk & being Trini tho."
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>Also, is his Trini accent even close??

This could be nitpicking on my part, but in my experience, the Trini accent is a bit more sing-songy, while the Dr. Narcisse character's is more gravely. All in all, not a bad job considering Jeffrey Wright is an American.

  

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57. "The accent is decent. Not great, but not bad."
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OK enough that it won't drive me nuts.

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63. "RE: The accent is decent. Not great, but not bad."
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>OK enough that it won't drive me nuts.

I was born in Jamaica, so this could be bias on my part, but the accent defiinately sounded Jamaican to me. What says you? It's an impressive Jamaican accent given that Jeffery Wright is an American. One of the better Jamaican accents from a non-W.I. native that I've heard in Hollywood.

  

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66. "It ain't really sound Jamaican, to me. Kinda generic Caribbean at times."
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But it's a solid attempt at a bougie Trini accent. The biggest thing wrong is how he pronounces his 'i's. We don't say 'keeng' or 'theeng' or 'thees'. We say them words regular.

If there *is* an extra 'ee' to American ears, he's putting too much on it.

He's also going too hard with the 'r's. Trinis got more of that Boston thing. Like 'heah' instead of 'heRe'. Cah. Pahk.

'Valentin' ain't really Trini either. Shoulda been an Errol or a Whitstanley or something.

Ain't nobody on TV ever Trini, though, so I'll take it.

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68. "RE: It ain't really sound Jamaican, to me. Kinda generic Caribbean at ti..."
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>But it's a solid attempt at a bougie Trini accent. The
>biggest thing wrong is how he pronounces his 'i's. We don't
>say 'keeng' or 'theeng' or 'thees'. We say them words
>regular.
>
>If there *is* an extra 'ee' to American ears, he's putting too
>much on it.
>
>He's also going too hard with the 'r's. Trinis got more of
>that Boston thing. Like 'heah' instead of 'heRe'. Cah. Pahk.
>
>'Valentin' ain't really Trini either. Shoulda been an Errol or
>a Whitstanley or something.
>
>Ain't nobody on TV ever Trini, though, so I'll take it.

Thank you for that breakdown. How wrong/insulting was the singy-songy description I gave in the prior message?

  

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69. "Lol. If enough people say it, it's gotta be true."
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To me, the inflections are a language itself within the language. No offense taken. I've only got like 60% of my natural accent left anyway.

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53. "I always love those eyes in the rearview mirror shots"
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like the one dr narcisse exchanges with "maurice" before noose bait gets strangled. soooo sooooo gangster

  

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70. "i'm kinda torn on the Richard thing"
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i guess they've gotta do SOMETHING with him besides having him prolifically kill people contrasted with what a sweet guy he is. I'm just not sure I'm interested in seeing the adventures of peaceful Richard, or some kind of Superman II shit where he gives up his 'powers' until he gets pushed to the edge

We'll see, i guess...

  

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71. "Did you see the preview for next week?"
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72. "nope"
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56. "Was Stephen Root's character lying"
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when he said the agent guy was on the up and up or did he honestly not know that guy wasn't trustworthy?

  

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58. "Means just said Knox was from where he said he was, which was true"
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I'm guessing that's as far as Means knows from looking up Knox's background as a prohibition agent. It's also possible that J. Edgar made sure any of his involvement with his agents was kept secret, and that Means didn't have access to it. This is the beginning of the FBI, and it's completely possible that Means just isn't in the loop for that type of stuff.

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59. "This is what I thought"
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>It's also possible
>that J. Edgar made sure any of his involvement with his agents
>was kept secret, and that Means didn't have access to it.

Which was why Nuck had that look of "clear record, farm boy. Shit don't smell right."

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60. "The rise of Eddie"
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fuck this manservant shit, son

  

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61. "another mistake..."
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..while most people would gladly agree that eddie deserves more credit & respect, this push for recognition is ultimately a bad look for both.

eddie is the ideal right hand man for nucky's lifestyle. he's the closest person to him, and his timing is always impeccable. while it might appear to be a good move to have him more involved, this will almost always prove foolish and detrimental.

people know the goons & gangsters associated with nucky's enterprise. they THINK they know eddie. with him in the shadows, appearing to be nothing more than a highly touted man-servant, he's much more valuable.


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62. "EXACTLY, what I was thinking."
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Eddie's smart, devoted and quick on his feet. I'd wanna keep him CLOSE to me.

He's a far better consigliere than inner circle member.

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65. "perhaps this is the introduction..."
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..as nucky's official consigliere

until now, he hasn't really been a notable advisor within the business.


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67. "I feel like Nucky's interfaith/interracial/interethnic relationships are"
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gonna be his downfall.

I hope I'm wrong tho b/c thus far, they've saved his ass quite literally.

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73. "Chalky is either not as smart or as cold as i gave him credit for"
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he clearly should have had them followed the first time they popped up

also they should have never made it out or back alive
her or dr narcisse or both
if it could have been managed
but he didn't even try
didnt even check dude out
*facepalm*


and he cant stand uppity negroes
and dr narcisse...
oh boy this should be interesting

also glad dr narcisse put that viper down
and quickly

richard...
=( the dog
something about being home rewinds the clock for you and puts you in a softer place
and you definitely need to be harder
oh this is going to get ugly
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74. "I found that a lil' odd too."
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Chalky ain't usually the type to let that shit slide. I think when dude hit him w/that "...servant pretending to be a king." shit, it might've knocked him off his game a lil'. He's self-concious about that shit to begin with.

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91. "it was"
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in the end its another missing black man in the 1920s
esp one up to no good?

yeah he was slow on this one
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75. "That's assuming"
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Chalky wanted to take on what ever responsibilites Dr. Narsisse had in New York if he killed him, which Chalky may or may not be ready for since he is running the club now.

  

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76. "chalky's smarter than that..."
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..he knows he doesn't have the clearance

purnsley too busy thinkin' with the wrong head, put him a tough spot. dunn had every right to react the way he did, but he shouldn't have been IN that situation to begin with. either way, you don't settle that business with more violence. eventually, he'd have to pay for the loss.

the real question is: at what cost?


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77. "^^ this is what I was thinking..."
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If anything, I think his decision NOT to go after the Doctor proved how smart he is. Knowing that he now has real responsibility with the club, people to answer to, plus being the race that he is, it wouldn't be smart to go killing someone who claims to be a "king" without first discussing the matter with your "boss" for lack of a better term.

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92. "you dont need clearance to take out a black man"
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in 1920s america
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100. "this is inaccurate..."
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..as lawless as things might appear, organized crime doesn't work that way (hence, the term "organized")

petty thieves might make reckless moves, but they didn't last long in this line of work. organized criminal enterprises prosper by being calculated, clever, and patient.

this is why gyp's reign was short-lived. he lacked patience (and tact).

there is a pecking order.

*remember dunn's introduction to chalky?

he initially made the mistake of assuming chalky was some "uppity negro" because he was in a holding cell with nucky (instead of the rest of the negros) and his wife brought him books to read. purnsley did everything he could to provoke chalky, but white remained calm. eventually, dunn made a move against chalky and paid for it severely.

why?

because he didn't know who he was.

ignorance can get you killed.

everyone answers to someone. right now, chalky doesn't know enough about narcisse to make a move (which is why nucky pulled the reigns). patience is your best friend in this life.



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141. "Thing is he didn't check him out"
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At all

So maybe chalky is dumber than I gave him credit for
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186. "you wait for the tell..."
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..chalky is a man of limited means, but abundant resources (mostly through nucky).

eventually, narcisse will reveal his vice. at that point, chalky makes his move.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*

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78. "he's a somebody. Chalky can't just kill him"
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Chalky being in his position knows how things work. He knows Narcisse is connected but not quite how... and seeing that the guy was able to pull Chalky's acts just for being disrespectful, he was right to not jump the gun, and risk it all over some ego shit.



  

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82. "he realized he needed to check dude out first"
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he did the right thing

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79. "*acres of diamonds*"
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..too far down the road

it seems that everyone's longing for somethin' other than the bed they've made for themselves.

jillian's current pitch is to recreate her own image and distance herself from her sordid past & reputation. unfortunately, her past has other plans. she's reminded of who she truly is at every turn, and her addiction to heroin should out her soon enough.

richard has a hard time reconciling his life's work with his true spirit. he has a gentle soul, but his skill set has determined a much more violent path for his life. every attempt he's made to walk away from that life is met with more violence. once a soldier, always a soldier.

the good dr. narcisse is indeed a wolf among sheep. never one to waste an opportunity to divide, his approach to purnsley was quite shallow and a subtle reminder to dunn & chalky's original introduction. question is, who's the leader of the pack?

nucky's constantly looking to minimize issues but his ambitions to expand on his enterprise are in stark contradiction to that goal. he's always searching for new horizons, but failing to see trouble brewing at home.



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..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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80. "Pitching that Talented Tenth logic...."
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>
>the good dr. narcisse is indeed a wolf among sheep. never one
>to waste an opportunity to divide, his approach to purnsley
>was quite shallow and a subtle reminder to dunn & chalky's
>original introduction. question is, who's the leader of the
>pack?
>

While running numbers and dabbling in heroin. Can't wait to see his real angle. Dunn already let him know he and chalky ain't friends.

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81. "I read this in Dr. Narcisse's voice"
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>the good dr. narcisse is indeed a wolf among sheep. never one
>to waste an opportunity to divide, his approach to purnsley
>was quite shallow and a subtle reminder to dunn & chalky's
>original introduction. question is, who's the leader of the
>pack?
>

  

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83. "I could be wrong, but I have a feeling that Chalky and Dunn...."
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...are playing the Doc.

It might just be wishful thinking. But I think Chalky's angling to get himself an inside man.

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85. "there are plenty scenarios there..."
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..chalky & dunn could be workin' an angle on the good dr., or chalky could be playin' both of them on his own

either way, he might not be the most eloquent man on the block, but he's sharp. should be fun to see how this plays out.


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86. "Y'know, that's a good point too."
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>chalky could be playin' both of them on his own

I'm just not buying the "Chalky wants to be loved so much that he lost all of his cunning."

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95. "he gon lose something"
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the Dr set up that singer for him
and he looks like he about to take that bait

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96. "covering all bases..."
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..the good dr. works people like a poker game

he's observant. he learns the tells of everyone at the table, then uses that to take calculated risk. problem is, a calculated risk is still a risk. sit at the table long enough and all tells will be shown, including your own.




*skatin' the rings of saturn*

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99. "I think Purnsley is genuinely looking to get over on Chalky"
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But after a while of being around his new "allies", he gon get tired of these New Negroes treating him like one of the lesser-thans and he gon go to Chalky like "Yo, let's show these fools how the slaves get down!"

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84. "that "moth to a flame" shot was a little too much."
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lol This show's usually more subtle than that.

Good episode. Though, Gillian at dinner bring up the deal. Can this bitch please stop putting her nose in men's business!? hahahahah

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87. "Narsisse wiping his hands"
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after the meeting reminded me of Mos Def's character wiping his hands after shaking Chappelle's white character in the racial draft sketch. It's a shame his character probably won't be around for the term because I'm certain Jeffrey Wright is probably going to be too busy for the show past this season. Interesting character.

  

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89. "they making his character too uppity which leads one to think that he's"
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... gonna ultimately get outsmarted by Chalky.

But, yeah, they need to tone down all that Marcus Garvey, Talented Tenth, "Only kings understand each other" shit just a lil bit.

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90. "It was a huge part of the dialogue back...."
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>But, yeah, they need to tone down all that Marcus Garvey,
>Talented Tenth, "Only kings understand each other" shit just a
>lil bit.

It wouldn't be true to the times to leave it out. Can't have Libyans in the cast as major characters without it.


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93. "definitely a set up"
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>... gonna ultimately get outsmarted by Chalky.
>
>But, yeah, they need to tone down all that Marcus Garvey,
>Talented Tenth, "Only kings understand each other" shit just a
>lil bit.


bwahaha it means he's doing his job
"Libyans"


its absolutely amazing how little this sort of talk has changed
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102. "I actually liked that tho."
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AR does give off a reptilian vibe. Dude would creep me out too. Not to mention he did pretty much just insult him.

I DEF think he's gonna get outsmarted tho.

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88. "purnsleys eye?--"
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seems to come and go

  

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101. "ptosis?"
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*skatin' the rings of saturn*

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..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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94. "Where they put the bodies?"
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i missed something


Did they leave them in the barn?


oh richard
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97. "I recall one scene where Richard's sister walks from behind the barn"
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... looking tired.

Just like she had to kill and bury the dog... Richard just doesn't want no more killing but it seems like that shit is gonna follow him wherever he goes.

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203. "i saw that"
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>... looking tired.
>
>Just like she had to kill and bury the dog... Richard just
>doesn't want no more killing but it seems like that shit is
>gonna follow him wherever he goes.

and she pregnant

i'm like did they just
did she
like really?
i was hoping i saw that wrong
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98. "*google image search* Margot Bingham"
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http://i.imgur.com/wZHNP9K.gif

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103. "lol"
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121. "RE: *google image search* Margot Bingham"
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http://gallery.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/DSC_7633_ZWYKLXJKKR.jpg
http://gallery.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/DSC_7175_OHXPALHILP.jpg
http://gallery.rxmuscle.com/newfullsize/DSC_7629_DIBLSWGPMX.jpg
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105. "CAPONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MEYER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..."
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Zero fucks given this episode by either of them.

Goddamn I love this show.

EDIT: I forgot. Poor Eddie.

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106. "That was such a good episode"
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108. "This is precisely what I said when this ep ended."
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>Goddamn I love this show.

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112. "Allow me to reintroduce myself...."
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:) that shit was SO gangster. I'm starting to like the dude. I hated him at 1st, but he's growing on me.

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117. "we're all just dying for them to play a more focal role"
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this episode was great for providing that. i hope this means the Meyer/Luciano power moves are officially going into full swing.

btw - i don't get how they can turn AR into a chump in one scene...all this time he's been the most calculated, controlled, cunning one of them all but they just exposed him to be something else in one poker game. i wonder where that will go from here.

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107. "Very very minor point"
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but I thought a duppy was a ghost, at least that's my understanding, or is that the meaning for Trini folks and not for other W.I. folk? Minor point, but that took me out of that scene with Narcisse a bit. Stellar episode. I've been in NYC apartments too long because I was getting a bit jealous with those large windows seen in some of the houses in this episode.

  

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115. "I thought a duppy was a ghost/curse too"
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109. "Kind of unnerving to see Rothstein take L's like this"
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I mean you knew it obviously happened in real life, but he's always been so on top of everything. You forget that for a dude who doesn't drink, fuck around, etc, he does have a pretty serious vice of his own that he obviously can't quite control like he can do everything else.

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110. "Yea ... I thought it was *really* interesting ..."
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to watch him exhibit such an impressive level of self control with the idiot sitting next to him talking shit, while simultaneously suffering a meltdown in the poker game. What a crazy personality contradiction on display in that scene.

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111. "I actually liked it. It showed the character's arrogance."
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He is literally unable to see himself losing, so he'll take L's from that blindspot all day and all night. It's what got him in trouble w/Nuck in the 1st place. He admitted so himself. He saw Nuck as some small time rube - he had NO IDEA who he was fucking with.

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113. "Yup. And he did it again at the card table"
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>He saw Nuck as some small time rube - he had NO IDEA
>who he was fucking with.


Which is why Nucky took the offer off the table. That calculated mind is the gift and the curse.

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114. "Oh, I liked it, too"
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It was just so jarring, because this has been one of the few characters on this show who seemed legitimately unshakeable.

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116. "Exactly"
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>He is literally unable to see himself losing, so he'll take
>L's from that blindspot all day and all night. It's what got
>him in trouble w/Nuck in the 1st place. He admitted so
>himself. He saw Nuck as some small time rube - he had NO IDEA
>who he was fucking with.

I really like what they are doing with some of the returning characters.. and most of the new ones (outside of Eli's son) are really bringing something to the table. So far I've enjoyed this season more than any other.
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118. "true it's just bugged out cause we never saw him like this"
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and in that one fell swoop they also show him being left behind in a potentially lucrative power move.

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119. "Man, I wish I spoke Yiddish"
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I REALLY want to know what Meyer was saying to the anti-semetic jackass while he was beating the shit out of him.

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120. "so eli's son is gunna end up dropping out of school"
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to be about that life, right? seems like thats where his story is headed...

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123. "either that or he's.."
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gonna get kicked out b/c the kids are gonna have to explain what happened to their classmate (we were all at a party drinking and he got sick) --> they find out about the liquor --> kicked out

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122. "really dope episode--"
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boardwalk is always at its strongest when it focuses on the real gangster shit

weakest storylines they got going is Jimmy's mom and Eli's kid

  

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124. "I like Eli's kid storyline."
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The making of a gangster. Eli is gonna be pretty disappointed.

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125. ":-( :-( :-("
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Eddie is one of of my favorite characters of any show, and this episode really got me feeling some kinda way.

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126. "man, this ep was sad as shit"
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I musta said "Oh no, Gillian." like 3 times. In the school, looking crazy. And you were an inner city kid in the 80's you've seen someone's relation come to school looking a lil off. you might not have know what it was though. It's jarring to see what that looks like as an adult.

I love Mueller's wife. She is thorough as shit. Too bad her man can't figure out if he wants to be the wild man from the iron sales office or the pansy from the flower shop.

Steve Graham is the shit. I have no idea what he's about to do minute to minute. Hilarious and frightening the next.

The Thompson men, from gramps on down, ain't about shit. And that lack of conscience is sewn in young. smh.

  

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131. "My mom was a heroin addict and that shit was too close to home"
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>I musta said "Oh no, Gillian." like 3 times. In the school,
>looking crazy. And you were an inner city kid in the 80's
>you've seen someone's relation come to school looking a lil
>off. you might not have know what it was though. It's jarring
>to see what that looks like as an adult.

Like, I hate Gillian and nearly every scene she's in, but in that moment I put the hate away for like 5 mins.

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127. "everyone wants a piece of the action..."
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..'til the heat is on

jillian is a zombie. and like most zombies, she has no clue that she's walking dead. she's used goods, and the writers continue to use her as a piñata. we can only hope that the payoff will be grand. at this point, its a bit redundant.

willie thompson might be a bit of a fuck up, but nucky sees potential in that rage. he should be bmoc in no time.

van alden has unwittingly become the comic relief for a very dark series. with his momentary break in the midst of chaos, we're reminded of just how maniacal he truly is. the clock is ticking.

nucky made a crucial mistake in allowing his emotional tie to eddie get the best of him. soon the rookie in the field is a lamb in the lion's den, eagerly shedding wool. everyone wants a piece of the action, but only a few people are truly cut out for this line of work.




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129. "the info Eddie gave up seems harmless though"
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unless that letter was to the feds he basically gave nothing up...and now he's dead. i hate to see the character go but in terms of hurting Nuck he didn't do any damage by snitching, he hurt him more on a personal level now that he's gone though.

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130. "knowledge is power..."
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..the devil is in the details

the bureau was looking for info to confirm the existence of organized crime.

eddie just gave them a crucial link.


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143. "come on now...it wasn't even a testimony"
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it's one guy confirming what they already know...not evidence...not anything they can use to do any more than they have already been doing. that was intended to be his initial shake down and they would bleed him for info longterm and use him as their informant...now that he's dead they have nothing.

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146. "you couldn't be more wrong..."
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..the bureau is fairly knew at this point, but they've been watching & collecting intel on all the major players (detailed in the previous ep)

eddie confirmed nucky's chicago connection

this current interrogation is just one of many, in an effort to gain full support towards federal indictments. every crucial piece of info they gather moves them a step closer to indentifying and going after organized crime.




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147. "agree to disagree...they thought they had an informant and now they dont"
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this was just an introductory meeting and they were looking to use him to get more info and even closer to Nuch but now he's useless...they will be pissed to find out he's dead. all the info he gave up did was confirm to them that they had him right where they wanted him...they broke him and would use him going forward but now they can't.

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150. "not really a disagreement..."
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..more like a different focus

its obvious that eddies suicide gives them one less informant. on the surface, his involvement appears to be minor.

still, when you consider the true scale of things to come, you begin to recognize how crucial those little details truly were. *esp considering the fact that at one point, hoover wasn't convinced that criminal activities were well organized machines.

there's no such thing as "harmless info" when you're trying to keep a low profile on the true nature of your business.




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152. "you saying i couldn't be more wrong = disagreement"
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how do you figure that conversation with Hoover will go? they don't have anything that they didn't already have...this is just hearsay. it's not a written statement or a sworn affidavit or a confession under oath...it's a co-sign from a dead guy. Hoover will tell them to go back out there and get something he can work with. Obviously they will eventually get something with meat on it but Eddie's "one thing" wasn't it. they were just priming him for what was to come and he knew it so he offed himself.

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153. "its simple..."
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..you stated that eddie's info was harmless and basically amounts to nothing following his suicide.

that's not exactly true.

truth is, hoover wasn't sold on the investigation of a nationwide conspiracy, but gave them a bit more time to produce solid evidence of organized crime existing beyond state lines. eddie's suicide might've bought nucky a bit more time, but that brief interrogation yielded enough info to move from speculation to full on investigation. we all know knox will be even more determined to break this case.

like i said, the devil is in the details.




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189. "what'd i tell you...Hoover aint trying to hear none of that shit"
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but damnit if Eli didn't just hand them some actual evidence lol

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196. "i think you missed my point..."
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..which was simple:

hoover didn't believe the theory of a nationwide conspiracy regarding organized crime. agent knox needed concrete evidence and eddie gave him just enough to put him on the right path. if not for eddie's info, knox would've never know:

- about the meeting with RC (or the payout)
- about the account eddie opened (with nucky's instruction)

ultimately, this all falls on nucky's shoulders. if he never involves eddie in the business, its highly doubtful that he'd ever end up in the crosshairs of the bureau. instead, eddie sings. in the wake of his suicide, knox is basically handed the keys to the vault (thanks to eli's incompetence).

the bottom line:

eddie's interrogation was a crossroads. the little info retrieved proved to be vital.


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132. "seemed to be mindficking him.. contrasting how giving up tidbits of info"
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...will be like, compared to how it will be if he doesn't

they figured he could be their go-to informant given how close he was to nucky

giving an envelope to a capone brother is really nothing, but they broke him, lifted a curtain, and shit all over the one thing he took so much pride in. loyalty. and he knew it wasn't over with those guys

pretty rough to watch

  

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133. "interrogation as we know it in it's infancy"
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i suspect cops would have just beaten him.
the BI (soon to be FBI) knew getting to him was going to be more psychological
opening the door then closing it
then hurting him
the room and the darkness
connecting via language
offering a connection and friendship
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yep. that's how it's done.

  

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138. "It was"
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>pretty rough to watch


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134. "As others said, he knows that's going to be his future"
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Rather than face what was going to be a long-term reality of snitching on his best friend to avoid getting sent back to Germany in disgrace, he chose to end it. And probably warn Nucky in the process; I assume the letter was him explaining what happened.

Even with Eddie dead, and even if Knox ends up catching a bad one by season's end, this the BI isn't going to leave Nucky alone. Hoover obviously doesn't go away, and he's not going to get bought off/compromise/look the other way. They're likely setting up the long-term end-game here.

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145. "agreed but they have to find a new weak link now..."
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their efforts with Eddie are now a dead-end

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155. "the letter was in german, likely to his sons"
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136. "That's the point. It is seemingly harmless"
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But even something that small is something that Eddie can't live with himself for giving up.

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144. "you're missing my point..."
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dude above is making it sound like what Eddie gave up will somehow hurt Nucky...i'm just saying by him offing himself the feds have nothing. Nucky is in no more danger of getting caught than he was before they interrogated Eddie at this point.

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149. "Oh, I see what you're saying."
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142. "You know"
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>nucky made a crucial mistake in allowing his emotional tie to
>eddie get the best of him. soon the rookie in the field is a
>lamb in the lion's den, eagerly shedding wool. everyone wants
>a piece of the action, but only a few people are truly cut out
>for this line of work.


There is something to be said for people who play their position

Nucky gets these promising people but ambitious
Who are actually key to nucky for the trust factor
And they take themselves out because their ambition exceeds their skill set
His brother is pretty lucky he's still alive and only went to jail briefly

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128. "Best ep of the season by far"
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I had to look up Frank Capone after it was over to see how accurate that was. I didn't know anything about him. guess they stayed pretty true with it

Cyren called it a few weeks back that this eddie thing was gonna be bad. I didn't expect this bad this fast though. He'll be missed. I'm glad we got some backstory on him at least.

Everything with Eli's kid = Wow. Nuck training him to look out for number one and if a few decent people are collateral damage along the way, so be it. fuck them, too. Can't even imagine the living hell that wimpy roomate kid is gonna go through, being locked up with a bunch of thugs... but i think part of the point is for neither us or Willie will ever see or hear from him again. Out of sight, out of mind. Probably wont even ever come back to haunt Willie the way Eddie's past just did.

Looks like Purnsley learned from his last white girl and didn't jump on that shit lol

Also, it's kinda cool seeing low level characters like Purnsley and (a couple weeks ago) Mickey from 'civilian' perspectives. they both came off far different.

  

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135. "It was very good, but I preferred last week's"
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Mostly for the stuff with Lansky and Rothstein. The stuff with Eddie this time was so damn depressing, and I don't really care about Gillian hitting rock bottom.

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137. "see, last week's was nothing special to me"
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outside of the AR/Lansky which was the only thing i really liked... but i was also kinda half in because of Breaking Bad

but this week between, Chicago/Willie/Eddie, shit was fire

this was also the first time this season i wasn't completely checked out during Gillian scenes. i'm bummed that Ron Livingston is getting the short end (storywise) in such a good show. I hope they find a way to make him interesting

  

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140. ""He thought he was better than me. But he wasn't.""
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You know Nucky was going to ride for him as soon as he heard that.

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148. "yeah, that's def when Nuck saw it in him. plus not having kids is"
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getting to him... there's that void with Margaret taking the kids, and Jimmy who he saw as a son that he sees Willie likely to fill

and damn near everyone he let's himself get close to is gone if you count Eddie, and Billie

  

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139. "love these little tidbits"
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was in the midst of looking up frank when it happened
i had a feeling


then eddie

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151. "Chalky has to know Pernsely is dealing."
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If the Gillian character is able to sniff out that Pernsley has that white, how could Chalky not know at this point?

  

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154. "good point"
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don't know what Chalky's 'rules' are with his people, but Dunn did say he was off visiting sick family

>If the Gillian character is able to sniff out that Pernsley
>has that white, how could Chalky not know at this point?

  

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158. "RE: good point"
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>don't know what Chalky's 'rules' are with his people, but
>Dunn did say he was off visiting sick family

I thought he used that lie soley for the purpose of going to NYC to visit Narcisse. But if he's using it as an excuse to stay away from Chalky period and deal in Jersey, that would make it even worse IMO. I think you're right because it looks like he's posted up fairly comfortable in whatever barbershop he's in.

Is it fair to assume he's still in Jersey since the Gillian character found him? I wouldn't think she'd be desperate enough to go to NYC to find a drug connect.

  

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156. "Not necessarily"
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Shit Chalky couldn't even find Ms. Noosebait. If anything she probably got that connect from the good Doctor.

  

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163. "RE: Not necessarily"
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>Shit Chalky couldn't even find Ms. Noosebait. If anything she
>probably got that connect from the good Doctor.

The woman you're referring to could have ran back to NYC, since she's based in that area. It would make sense for Chalky and Pernsley having a hard time finding her. I'm assuming Pernsley is dealing in Jersey since Gillian found him, which means it would be easier for Chalky to know what's going on. I doubt Gillian would need to get the connect from Narcisse since he's based in NYC.

  

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164. "The mystery surrounding who told her is intriguing..."
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like, how *did* she get there? Perhaps Chalky does know and he's the one who sent her. Long shot but...

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157. "how are they going to kill two great characters"
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and keep gillian around? her scenes are on fast-forward status for me right now. i have no clue what's going on with her and ron livingston.

i mean, i know why frank capone had to go, but it still sucks to lose him. i loved all the capone brothers scenes this year.

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159. "She's just boring at this point"
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I know people complained about Margaret last season, but I'd take her hospital storyline over Gillian right now.

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160. "HELL no."
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Shit I'd rather check in on Eli's wife's mundane home life than see Margaret again.

I'd rather they give us a 5 minute per-episode still shot of Owen's gravesite than do any kind of dealings with Margaret again.

I'd rather they give us a breakdown of what Nucky's dead wife is doing up in Heaven than get another Margaret storyline.

I'd rather they show us Willie's college girlfriend clipping her toenails than show us what Margaret's up to.

God I hate Margaret.

This season has been easily the show's best JUST BECAUSE Margaret has been absent.
I'm being hyperbolic but only slightly.
Keep her annoying ass away from this show.

Gillian's storyline is interesting because you know it will eventually intertwine with Harrow's again and more Harrow is always good.

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161. "lol... patience..."
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..every season, people complain about certain pacing/storylines

only to discover the greater purpose somewhere down the line.


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162. "^^^^"
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I was gonna say "hasn't this show proven that patience is worth it in the end?" but held back because it's already been said.

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169. "you and Brew act like i'm gonna stop watching the show over it"
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it ain't that serious. she bores the shit out of me and every scene she's had with livingston has been a snoozefest, so i'm just gonna skip them all and still enjoy whatever payoff it might be leading up to.

gillian and harrow, from a character perspective, should have had their arcs closed last season. don't care about drugged out gillian trying to get her grandson back, or whatever. of course they can still come back and have some good moments this season, but they just seem superfluous at this point.

purnsley/chalky has been a slow burn too (since they met back in, what, season 2?), but i don't mind it since the characters are still interesting to me. so it's got nothing to do with not having the patience to appreciate BE.

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170. "Word."
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I get what you're saying, and mostly agree.

The only problem (and it's minor, IMO) this show has sometimes is that it spreads itself a little too thin. I still keep focus and interest in storylines that seem boring because I know they'll pay off (except Margaret, she never pays off), but I think I agree that Gillian and Harrow should've been done at the end of last year. Would've been a fitting ending for both, and this year the focus could've been more on the club and more on the multi-city network which is the heartbeat of the show.

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166. "this show seems to keep getting better, but im done with Gillian"
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get rid of her


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167. "I agree re: the show getting better..."
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...and I'm also firmly in the camp that believes Gillian's story should have ended at the hands of Harrow's rapid fire at the end of last season. But since it didn't I still prefer the screen time to go to Gretchen Mol than Margaret and her miserable, boring, brutal storyline. I imagine if Gillian died last season, Margaret would be getting her screentime so I'm cool with where the show is.

But yea - this show is in it's prime right now. I've loved it every season but I agree that it just keeps raising its game.

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168. "Frank had to die for Al to change/grow/step up"
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(that and because he really died around that time)

but Al's been having way too much fun being a reckless asshole this season. at one point he was starting to grow up, but i think having his brothers around made him feel more like a wild kid again. now that all changes

  

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172. "And also...the "coke" thing is a problem"
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>(that and because he really died around that time)
>
>but Al's been having way too much fun being a reckless asshole
>this season. at one point he was starting to grow up, but i
>think having his brothers around made him feel more like a
>wild kid again. now that all changes

He's been off the rails all season.

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207. "I got a lot of shades of Scarface from that episode."
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165. "I just wanted to voice my approval for the Margaret-free season."
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*back to lurk mode*

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171. "co-sign"
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173. "word."
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176. "and she back"
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187. "cool jinx, bro"
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199. "Don't speak too soon!"
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Hopefully, this was a one off, tho.

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174. "Tonight on Boardwalk Empire ..."
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Angry Sex!
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175. "yo"
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he ain't nuttin but a nigga wit a dictionary was delivered serious as hell but I laughed hard as shit.

  

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177. "he hates that dude, hoard"
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178. "another reason i forgot i like this show"
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i find myself brushing up on history


hoover in 1924 (wondering if knox is purvis)
florida land boom (i'm like its swamp wtf are they buyin??)
grand central (aw the irt)

Patricia is kinda interesting in this role
funny enough she is what margaret was supposed to be
i guess

but that sex scene was just awkward
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182. "not sure i see your connection/comparison..."
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>Patricia is kinda interesting in this role
>funny enough she is what margaret was supposed to be
>i guess
>
>but that sex scene was just awkward

why the connection between sally and margaret? what was margaret supposed to be?

the sex scene wasn't much of a stretch for bdsm.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*

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183. "so far"
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>>Patricia is kinda interesting in this role
>>funny enough she is what margaret was supposed to be
>>i guess
>>
>>but that sex scene was just awkward
>
>why the connection between sally and margaret? what was
>margaret supposed to be?
>
>the sex scene wasn't much of a stretch for bdsm.


Patricia has facilitated, informed regardng his business and generally been an ear to Nucky
Margaret couldn't seem to manage any of it


how about buscemi in bdsm is awkward or just sex in general with buscemi
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185. "interesting comparison..."
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..stark contradiction

margaret was never asked to facilitate business. nucky provided shelter and security, and in turn her presence legitimized him in certain social circles. he asked her to make his house a home but unfortunately, she couldn't ignore the true nature of his business. the only time nucky involved margaret in any of his business dealings (placing the deed in her name) was a ruse to protect himself. he just never figured she would ever be spiteful enough to hurt him.

obviously, he was wrong.

i don't get the impression that shelly is anything more than a means to an end. they share chemistry, but come from clearly different worlds.






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198. "RE: interesting comparison..."
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>..stark contradiction

the contrast solely seems to be Margaret's moral stance

They both need and wanted to use Nucky.
Margaret is a bit more clearly from a different world or made that (questionable) moral dividing line clear

Shelly definitely not, she and Nucky both have shady dealings.



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179. "One of the most agonizing opening scenes ever"
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Although "I wouldnt put something alive in a box" made it all worth it.

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180. ""
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184. "^^^my exact reaction"
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>Although "I wouldnt put something alive in a box" made it all
>worth it.

  

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200. "OMG, that was SO priceless."
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204. "it was"
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181. "an easy conversation..."
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..is often hard to find

this series is known for its style and action, yet the dialogue is equally rewarding. once again, the dialogue takes the lead.

nucky's opening scene with margaret was stoic. the void between them has always existed, they simply found ways to ignore it. now that the void is all that's left of their relationship, he's forced to reconcile his thoughts. this convo sheds light on his hesitation. his instincts would serve him well if he ever chose to listen to them.

agent knox finds himself struggling to convince hoover to continue the investigation into an alleged conspiracy of organized crime. desperate to find hard evidence, he makes a bold but decisive play.

watching luciano squirm was a treat. his allegiance (read: FEAR) of masseria (and rothstein) is quite telling. he's been waiting for the chance to step out of the shadows, yet folded in the face of opportunity.

richard harrow returns to new jersey, still unsure of his place in their world. his connection to tommy keeps him grounded. his affection for julia gives him hope. julia's confidence is... charming.

eli is an absolute mess. with every episode, we discover just how different he & nucky truly are. as much he wants to prove himself as a man in charge, its clear he's not capable of handling things with discretion.

chalky's restless. everything he does is an effort to legitimize his position as a man of means & power. he doesn't like being shackled, and can't stand being compromised. right now, he appears to be playing into the hands of dr. narcisse. whether this is all apart of a larger scheme remains to be scene. in the meantime, he's enjoying his dance with daughter maitland.




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188. "is there anything to Eli looking at the hankerchief?"
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i know the feds handed Eddie one when they had him but don't recall it being found by anyone after he died...seemed like they made a point to have him focus on it though.

am i making all of this up?

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190. "i'm curious too. i didn't know if it had to do with Eddie..."
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or the other agent knox got killed

  

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191. "Didn't one of he agents hand him the handkerchief when they sucker punch..."
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192. "good call...could be that too"
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but i'm thinking it's Eddie because they gave him one to clean up his puke

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195. "That's what I thought. I thought it might be the initials of the club/ba..."
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...Eddie liked to go to. But that might be too obvious. I do agree it's going to be the key to them figuring out who he really is.

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197. "agreed"
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>I do
>agree it's going to be the key to them figuring out who he
>really is.

definitely a foreshadowing
what or how
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193. "the initials on it are JTM and Hoover keeps referring to the agent"
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by his first name, "Jim"

so I'm guessing Eli will realize that Agent Knox isn't who he says he is.. we'll see how it plays out

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194. "ahh that makes sense"
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201. "Excellent catch."
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I figured the zoom in was for a reason, but I couldn't put two and two together there. Here's seeing if Eli has any police skills left or not.

  

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202. "i don't think it was intentional..."
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>I figured the zoom in was for a reason, but I couldn't put
>two and two together there. Here's seeing if Eli has any
>police skills left or not.

..i think knox made a mistake (out of habit), and that might be just enough for eli to get the goods on him.


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205. "yes...but i dont want it to be eli"
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eli has enough on his plate
=(
knox is crazy and dangerous as shit
i dont want eli tangled with him and end up like eddie
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206. "how do you form attachment..."
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..when everyone on this show has an agenda and a dark side?


*skatin' the rings of saturn*

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208. "badge or no, Knox doesn't want to fuck with Eli"
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not on a scrap level.

sure he's got farm hands, but Eli's got inches, pounds and gangster.

I'm reminded of those shots of Capone with Mueller, George quite easily towering over him even as Capone plays the strong hand.

Knox doesn't want to get at any of these guys hand to fist.

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209. "Let's also not forget that Eli buried some dude in the dirt"
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A few seasons back.. Can't remember the character but he deaded someone and hid the evidence.. He can be grimy too

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210. "^^ this is the correct answer."
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This episode (and kinda the whole season so far) kinda tried to play the "Eli's got a soft side" angle, but at the end when they show him noticing the initials on the handkerchief you just know he ain't gonna stand for that shit.

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212. "Both Knox and J.Edgar Hoover"
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are well aware of the dangerous company they are involved with in this case. Hoover warned him when Knox begged him to keep the case open about getting put six feet under.

  

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213. "True but Knox also made it clear..."
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a couple episodes ago that he's gonna "find Nucky's weakest link and break it," which obviously can't be Eddie anymore...so considering the ease with which he obtained information through Eli, he probably sees him as at least *somewhat* weak (not knowing what we know) and therefore sees him as easier to break (especially after witnessing him cry), while still acknowledging and knowing that he is swimming in troubled waters no matter how weak the associated link.

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211. "wasn't it his deputy?"
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I know it was in his woodshop.


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214. "definitely in the woodshop.. not sure if it was"
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His deputy or some other politician type

Update: it was a politician named George O'Neill

http://boardwalkempire.wikia.com/wiki/George_O\'Neill

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215. "ok i figured that the narcisse/daughter maitland connect would be deep"
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but damn
it's even more twisted than i thought
still can't figure out narcisse's end game with chalky

as far as narcisse and purnsley, i think the doc set dunn up to be the fall guy
dunn pollutes the community with red tops, narcisse and the garveyites swoop down and saves the all the poor libyans

i could be wrong tho, we'll see

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216. "I was thinking the same thing when he stood up in that church meeting"
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Like "I know this fool is not tryna step up and play savior when he got Purnsley and his boys flooding the community with that shit."

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225. "I CANNOT get ove your avy."
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Yo, I need her in my life.

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217. ""
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..great title reference

eli & nucky continue to search for more info on agent knox, only to come up empty due to compromised informants. the game of misinformation is alive & well. meanwhile, willie can't handle the guilt associated with his own troubles and drops out of school, leaving a rift between the thompson men. unfortunately, they have larger trouble brewing as the bureau moves forward with their investigation into organized crime. fortunately for nucky, his ties with the attorney general should prove favorable, but that will surely come at a severe cost.

luciano remains in good standing with masseria, and will soon be importing a bit more than booze from the tampa.

gillian is on the road to recovery, thanks to a healthy helping of cold turkey from roy. should be interesting to witness gillian without heroine. while most people despise her character, she's certainly proven to be a worthy adversary when focused.

dunn & the good dr. narcisse run a number on the local parish, but the deacon is wise and soon meets his demise. chalky's best asset is his natural inclination to trust no one. the chess match between he & narcisse is quietly heating up. he's taken the bait of daughter maitland, but appears to be setting the stage for greater purpose. maitland delivers more insight regarding her history with narcisse and reveals a very dark twisted nightmare for all.

margaret & rothstein both get a nice surprise when they both meet under the guise of secret identities. the world is never as large as you need it to be when you're in hiding.

al capone always delivers. the charm is hilarious, but capone always means business. now that he has the green light on o'banion, this rising star is sure to entertain.






*skatin' the rings of saturn*

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218. "Something about him feels too good to be true..."
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>gillian is on the road to recovery, thanks to a healthy
>helping of cold turkey from roy. should be interesting to
>witness gillian without heroine. while most people despise her
>character, she's certainly proven to be a worthy adversary
>when focused.
>

That and her bad luck with men. Gotta think the death of fake jimmy is an issue again.


>dunn & the good dr. narcisse run a number on the local parish,
>but the deacon is wise and soon meets his demise. chalky's
>best asset is his natural inclination to trust no one. the
>chess match between he & narcisse is quietly heating up. he's
>taken the bait of daughter maitland, but appears to be setting
>the stage for greater purpose. maitland delivers more insight
>regarding her history with narcisse and reveals a very dark
>twisted nightmare for all.

She also lied to both. She could be trying to "free" herself.

>
>al capone always delivers. the charm is hilarious, but capone
>always means business. now that he has the green light on
>o'banion, this rising star is sure to entertain.


That bothered me a little bit since it was so obvious to everybody except Torrio. I was glad they didn't drag it out that much longer.

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219. "RE: Something about him feels too good to be true..."
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>
>>gillian is on the road to recovery, thanks to a healthy
>>helping of cold turkey from roy. should be interesting to
>>witness gillian without heroine. while most people despise
>her
>>character, she's certainly proven to be a worthy adversary
>>when focused.
>>
>
>That and her bad luck with men. Gotta think the death of
>fake jimmy is an issue again.

Yea I was thinking that the scene where she ran into fake Jimmy's buddy at the restaurant has to mean something. I don't think that was just stuck in there randomly but we'll see I guess.


>>dunn & the good dr. narcisse run a number on the local
>parish,
>>but the deacon is wise and soon meets his demise. chalky's
>>best asset is his natural inclination to trust no one. the
>>chess match between he & narcisse is quietly heating up.
>he's
>>taken the bait of daughter maitland, but appears to be
>setting
>>the stage for greater purpose. maitland delivers more
>insight
>>regarding her history with narcisse and reveals a very dark
>>twisted nightmare for all.
>
>She also lied to both. She could be trying to "free" herself.

This I could agree with, didn't think of it this way. I hope so.

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220. "the god, the bad, and the ugly..."
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..are all the same

>That and her bad luck with men. Gotta think the death of
>fake jimmy is an issue again.

gillian will always be one step away from complete implosion. roy appears to be a traveling salesman, selling hope to anyone gullible enough to listen.

>She also lied to both. She could be trying to "free" herself.

make no mistake about it: daughter maitland is an opportunist (like everyone else in this series). her only true allegiance is to herself.

>That bothered me a little bit since it was so obvious to
>everybody except Torrio. I was glad they didn't drag it out
>that much longer.

torrio always knew the deal, he was just trying to stretch time. he knows he wouldn't/won't survive a war. he's old enough to recognize that his tenure is coming to a close, but still foolish enough to believe he can leave on better terms than his predecessor.

*skatin' the rings of saturn*

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232. "Oh, that dude is shady as shit"
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There's NO way this ends well for Gillian.

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221. "damn good episode--"
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daughter titties!!! chick from college titties!!

also, im wondering if the Arnold - Margaret scene is a one off or will that be a new storyline

  

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222. "RE: damn good episode--"
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>daughter titties!!! chick from college titties!!

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>also, im wondering if the Arnold - Margaret scene is a one off
>or will that be a new storyline

God I hope it's a one off. But I'm not confident. I was hoping last week was her one off but here she is again. I hate her fucking face so much. This show has enough storylines, already spread thin enough. Margaret was a welcome subtraction from the show. Stop wasting time on her stupid face.

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223. "yep those minutes they spend--"
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on Margaret and Jillian would be better used on van alden, capone, luciano, etc

eli's son story is just starting to get interesting

  

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224. "Yea I think that storyline will be good."
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It'll amp up screentime for Eli and Nucky together which I think is always good. Sepinwall made a good point in that this may be the writers' way of kind of rekindling the Jimmy/Nucky relationship and writing some themes into the "Lil Eli is the new Nucky" relationship that they missed out on when they had to take Jimmy down.

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228. "her connecting with AR is proof we're not done with Margaret"
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unfortunately

  

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230. "if it means more AR--"
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im willing to put up with it

i noticed AR dropped alot of money on that real estate deal - 150G's

that could be interesting as hell if it turns out to be a scam

i just dont want them dwelling on her

  

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240. "prolly. :("
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226. "Cotdamnit! I thought we were done w/ Mrs. Schroeder."
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Ugh.

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227. "So did Al and Herc orchestrate that bust on Torrio?"
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233. "^^^ this was my thought as well"
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235. "Definitely felt that way"
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229. "That Daughter/Narcisse shit is twisted"
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They need to cut Gillian, Marg, and Eli's son their stories bore me so much

  

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231. "i like the stuff with Eli's kid"
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Gillian bored me so much in this episode that i preferred to watch Margaret.

I was happy to see Ron Livingston joining this show but his character so far has been a snoozefest. i'm really hoping there's another angle here. there's gotta be more to this guy than just being a rich sucker.

  

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234. "Agreed..."
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I hope they take this somewhere good, but I got bored with Gillian this week too...

But yea. Livingston is too good so I hope the endgame of this storyline is something great.

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238. "i think it's heading for Gillian complietely fucking him over"
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maybe taking him for a good chunk of his change. she's sweet and vulnerable now but he has no idea how psycho this broad is when she's focused.

or maybe he'll turn out to be some kind of sadistic madman

i dunno, i hope whatever it is, it's more interesting than what i think haha

  

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239. "Yep I could see either of these haha."
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And I'm still trying to figure out exactly how the run in with Fake Jimmy's friend plays into all this because I know that wasn't just randomly thrown in there for show.

Maybe Piggly Wiggly is really one of Fake Jimmy's friends who's doing some recon to try and get her to admit to what she did? Or even an undercover of some sort looking for the same thing?

I dunno....just spec.

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242. "RE: i think it's heading for Gillian complietely fucking him over"
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>maybe taking him for a good chunk of his change. she's sweet
>and vulnerable now but he has no idea how psycho this broad is
>when she's focused.
>
>or maybe he'll turn out to be some kind of sadistic madman
>
>i dunno, i hope whatever it is, it's more interesting than
>what i think haha


If Gillian fleeces him, that would make the dude the first character on the show that isn't nuanced in terms of having any negative traits. I dunno about him being a sadistic madman, but there is the fact we nor Gillian know anything about his prior family life, so I'm hoping the negative or more nuanced aspects of the character will come from there.

  

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236. "So Pernsley"
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is out and in the open in terms of being in league with Narcisse, correct? I want to know how much Chalky knows in terms of what's going on around him.

  

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237. "I think he was more so out in the open as a rep for Chalky."
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I dont think the church folks know him and the Doc are connected.

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241. "Nah, but only cuz he killed the rev."
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If Chalky wasn't distracted by homegirl, he PROLLY woulda seen it already.

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244. "chalky's distraction..."
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>If Chalky wasn't distracted by homegirl, he PROLLY woulda
>seen it already.

..more about the Onyx (and his daughter's wedding), than daughter maitland (although she's certainly in the mix)




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246. "He dont care nothin about that wedding...thats all on his wife."
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Making sure the club is laid out for the wedding, yeah

All the details....ask ya momma




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247. "RE: He dont care nothin about that wedding...thats all on his wife."
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>Making sure the club is laid out for the wedding, yeah
>
>All the details....ask ya momma

The fact Chalky was so brazen to want to stay over with the singer rather than want to sneak back home to his wife shows his distracted he is by his 'muse'. Dude is head over heels in love and/or lust at the moment.

  

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254. "Never figured him to be like that...creepin on his wife"
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But i guess he never had a reason to.

The good Dr. is a sneaky, smart one though...playing everybody around him.

Like everyone else has said, this dont look good for Mistah Whiiite.





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255. "reading is fundamental..."
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..i never said he was extremely involved in the wedding planning

my point is that he's so focused on the success of the Onyx (which happens to be hosting the wedding reception) that he's not as focused in other areas.




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243. "I kinda wish The Good Doctor was just a normal gangster"
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the main antagonists of every season always had some perverted, twisted shit about them.

Van Alden in season 1
Gillian, Jimmy & the Commodore in 2
Gyp in season 3

I kinda wished he was just a regular person

  

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245. "define regular?.."
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..lol

the beauty in a well written series is that the viewers often find themselves so enamored with the stars that they forget that everyone's a little disturbed.

everyone has a vice.

nucky briefly touched on this during his short convo with margaret @ the train station.


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249. "yea, most of the &quot;good guys&quot;' vices are as simple as drugs, th..."
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or ambition.


I can see what he's saying.

Van Alden was a religious zealot willing to murder for God and Country.
Gillian, Jimmy and the Commodore were all fucking each other as one big happy family, physically and mentally.
Gyp was a prototypical momma's boy in need of BDSM lovin'.
And now Narcisse is on some Angels & Demons self-mutilation after seeming relatively austere.



I wouldn't agree that their character flaws didn't fit their character, on the contrary all of these people's issues made perfect sense and helped the story move along, especially given the time period.


But what "good guy" has had such a strange, taboo for our times and theirs vice? I can't think of one, unless you want to count Jimmy binging on heroin for a minute. But he was arguably "breaking bad" in the writers' room by then anyway.



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250. "Van Alden had his own weird self-inflicted sadistic sexual shit..."
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going on as well, if you remember.

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252. "vices..."
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>Van Alden was a religious zealot willing to murder for God and
>Country.

van alden's vice isn't religion, its control. he lacks control, so he seeks order (in his life and others). religion was simply his way of purging. mutilation was definitely well within his margin.

>Gillian, Jimmy and the Commodore were all fucking each other
>as one big happy family, physically and mentally.

gillian's addiction to drugs is an easy target, but her true vice is power (or lack, thereof). jimmy was similar, but much more reckless. the commodore was just an abusive prick.

>Gyp was a prototypical momma's boy in need of BDSM lovin'.

gyp was the poster boy for manic-depressive. his constant paranoia guaranteed his demise.

>And now Narcisse is on some Angels & Demons self-mutilation
>after seeming relatively austere.

Narcisse isn't into self mutilation. he earned that scar the hard way with maitland's mother. his vice is narcissism (hence, the name).




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251. "I know "regular" is a bad term to use"
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but put it like this.

There's aren't any heroes or villains on Boardwalk empire. That included Nucky. But with Nucky being the main character, they try to give his antagonists characteristics that make them easy to root against for certain viewers.

I feel like AR won't be a season antagonist because he doesn't have something that stands out like the other 3.

  

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253. "i think that's kinda the point..."
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..that nucky's greatest enemy isn't the typical bad guy gangster trying to take over his territory.

truth is: his greatest adversary is his own ambition.


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248. "I wish Jeffrey Wright"
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weren't such an in demand actor so that he would be available beyond this season. There's no way dude survives past this season unfortunately, which makes his downfall all to predictable.

  

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256. "the old ship of zion..."
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..rough seas ahead

you never really know the true measure of a man until you see them under pressure. that much holds true for everyone in this series.

nucky found himself out of sorts with the surprising arrival of sally in atlantic city. while he appeared to be more annoyed than anything else, it should've drawn a red flag regarding the people he mistakenly involves in his business. in turn, sally seems to get a kick out of keeping him off balance. unfortunately, it was mickey who paid the price.

once again, eli finds himself @ a crossroads regarding loyalty and his own personal aspirations/aggravation. with nothing absolute, its clear that envy continues to plague the relationship between brothers. will they ever bridge the gap? only time will tell.

the other side of the tracks gets a bit more shine, as chalky is forced to deal with the wake of the deacon's murder. the funeral service revealed a side of white that most had never seen, and everyone took notice (esp his wife). his first move was to set shit straight on the street, and he made a grand gesture in calling out the good dr. on his hypocrisy. it appears narcisse doesn't suffer embarrassment much, as he swiftly ordered the final confrontation btwn chalky & dunn. in the end, daughter maitland chose free will over servitude.

..what shall we do, mr. white? what shall we do?.. © narcisse




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257. "what do you mean? dude was just sweating"
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>funeral service revealed a side of white that most had never
>seen, and everyone took notice (esp his wife).

the people were looking at him because he's supposed to run the community and protect them...the deacon getting killed makes him look weak

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258. "He was lost in that song/daughter world."
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>>funeral service revealed a side of white that most had
>never
>>seen, and everyone took notice (esp his wife).
>
>the people were looking at him because he's supposed to run
>the community and protect them...the deacon getting killed
>makes him look weak

He seemed vulnerable for the first time in a long time to them.


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259. "rewatch the ep/scene..."
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..pay close attention to his wife and how the camera slowly reveals her focus

chalky was beyond moved during the song. his wife gave him that all-knowin', all-seein', evil eye... darting back & forth between chalky & daughter maitland as she sang the hymn. putting the pieces of the puzzle together. granted, chalky explains later on that his wife knows her place, but that doesn't change the fact that he was completely out of character for someone typically smug and unmoved.

its only a moment, but it shows so much in those few seconds. that's why the direction for this show is top notch.

the devil is in the details.


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262. "i'll check it again..."
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i thought they were just gawking at him on some "what are you going to do about this?"

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260. "Props to all involved..."
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Van Patten did a good job framing every scene with tension. After the story chalky told I really thought he was done this episode. But the scene with him and done was really good.

Chalky, Dunn and Eli shined.

Now the official war has begun between the good doc and chalky. No more back room scheming and trickery. Which plays to chalky's strength.

LOL @ nucky giving life advice. “Don’t let your life get out of hand.”

Agent Tolliver's line “Get the crooks. Then we’ll find the law.” doesn't bode well for him or Eli.




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261. "reflection..."
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>Van Patten did a good job framing every scene with tension.
>After the story chalky told I really thought he was done this
>episode. But the scene with him and done was really good.

good job showing chalky taking stock of his past. the scene gave great detail (his gun well out of arm's reach), showing just how uncommonly comfortable he allowed himself to be. his tears during the song almost gave the impression that he was tired and accepting a foregone conclusion. in this moment, you saw him humbled. in that instance, maitland showed hesitation and it jolted him back to reality.

these are the subtleties that make this show great.

>Now the official war has begun between the good doc and
>chalky. No more back room scheming and trickery. Which
>plays to chalky's strength.

i think the politics are still in play, as nucky always looks to avoid a war at all costs. still, chalky's wide awake now.

>LOL @ nucky giving life advice. “Don’t let your life get out
>of hand.”

oh, the irony.

>Agent Tolliver's line “Get the crooks. Then we’ll find the
>law.” doesn't bode well for him or Eli.

definitely a statement made about law enforcement and corruption.



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263. "that chalky/dunn scene was 1 of the more intense tv scenes i've seen"
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had my heart beating fast as shit... especially cause on this show, ANYBODY can get it...

was pleased with the result obviously but Dunn has been a fantastic character, not mad that he went out though because he got a lot of shine this season... but he will be missed.

the main nucky storyline is clever and I like it, but I'm a little disappointed that we are back at Nuck vs. Eli...

Looking forward to more Chicago and more Richard Harrow next week





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264. "it reminded me of the Dority vs. Hearst's guy scene from Deadwood"
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I was literally cheering for Chalky to pull through because I knew it wasn't a given. Great fight scene.

I really thought they were gonna kill Chalky there with him crying hearing her sing that song. My only gripe is that he didn't put it all together sooner. He should have never trusted Pernsley, and grabbed his gun the second he heard him knocking on the door.

Poetic justice for Pernsley to get stabbed in the back.

  

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271. "RE: it reminded me of the Dority vs. Hearst's guy scene from Deadwood"
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>I really thought they were gonna kill Chalky there with him
>crying hearing her sing that song. My only gripe is that he
>didn't put it all together sooner. He should have never
>trusted Pernsley, and grabbed his gun the second he heard him
>knocking on the door.

I had an issue with this as well... but I guess it's the type of thing where it's easy for us to say from afar then being in chalky's shoe's...

  

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272. "well he had been smartening up all ep, maybe he was just ready to die"
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Yes, the funeral scene was partly about Chalky falling deeper in love with Daughter Maitland, and his wife catching on to it, but I think the rest of the churchgoers were giving dirty looks and whispering because of the murdered reverend, not the singer. They all believe Chalky is the one behind the heroin, as well as the murder, and when Chalky recognizes that and looks up to see Narcisse smirking at him, he realizes he's been played.

From there he suspects, as he has before if I remember correctly, that Pernsley is behind the heroin and working alongside Narcisse. Chalky seemed very suspicious of Pernsley when they were together and bringing him along for the drug house raid was a way of seeing how he would react and getting to the bottom of the heroin problem. So when he saw Pernsley kill the guy that could've given him some answer he remarked on how it was a quick draw.

Those two scenes together, as well as the public display with Narcisse, made me think that Chalky had finally wised up to what was under his nose, and realized that Narcisse is making moves on him and Pernsley is the inside man.

So for Pernsley to knock on the singer's door unexpectedly, and at least being suspicious of his loyalty, I was surprised Chalky didn't arm himself or take any precautions. Pernsley could've had a gun (and he even came in with his hands behind his back)and shot Chalky immediately. I think Chalky was feeling resolved with meeting death, which is how I interpreted his reaction to the funeral song, and his dialogue with Daughter Maitland saying something of the lines of, "I knew death was coming for me when I heard that song."

Perhaps Chalky was just ready to die. In retrospect, it made the scene much more powerful because the viewers believed it could happen and this episode was Chalky's final sendoff.

  

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279. "Agree with every second of this. Well said."
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265. "the look on his face when he was being choked out"
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it really looked like that was the end for him.

I agree with the Nuck vs Eli point...as much as i like the storyline I wish they would just get it together and have each other's backs. it looked like they might after all they went through last season but you can't blame Eli for trying to protect his kids. I think the part that bothers me the most is that they set up a fight between the two leading into that...anyway it will be great television regardless.

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266. "I don't think this will be a lasting dynamic"
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>the main nucky storyline is clever and I like it, but I'm a
>little disappointed that we are back at Nuck vs. Eli...
>
Eli's either gonna find a way out of it, or he's gonna fess up to Nucky and team up on dude.

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267. "Agreed. He's seen what happens when he goes against family"
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There's no way he's doing it again.

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you see they left his answer ambiguous

  

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269. "the eli/nucky cycle is likely to continue..."
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..for the duration of this series. there issues are deeply rooted, most likely due to their abusive father.

no matter how civil or agreeable they may be at any given time, they will never hold the same principles.

Eli, the favored son. nucky, the black sheep.
Eli settles, while nucky's ambition will never let him rest.
Eli believes in following orders. nucky doesn't take orders, he gives them.

their differences might be forgivable in the realm of families, but play out in detriment in the world of business. truth is, they shouldn't be in business together at all. unfortunately, nucky doesn't have anyone else remotely close to trustworthy.

nucky considered himself a smart man. if he was really smart, he'd cash out & disappear. too bad true ambition never wanes.


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270. "Anyone else think there was anything to Narcisse's play"
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With the sinful prostitute killing herself and handing the baby to the Virtuous African? Kinda like how he killed a prostitute and "took" her child? I mean, dude's script was about as subtle as a jagged piece of wood going through your cheek.

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273. "I loved what he said afterwards."
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Something along the lines of "the theme went over their heads."

I was like...oh wait.

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274. "he's such an asshole lol"
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275. "I loved how BAD it was and yet how moved he was."
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He was really feeling himself.

lol

Shows that he takes himself a lil' more seriously than perhaps he should. This is why he's gonna lose to Chalky. Good or Bad, Chalky knows EXACTLY who & what he is.

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276. "The 1920's version of Good & Terrible"
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>He was really feeling himself.
>
>lol
>
>Shows that he takes himself a lil' more seriously than perhaps
>he should. This is why he's gonna lose to Chalky. Good or Bad,
>Chalky knows EXACTLY who & what he is.

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278. "Man, did you see that bored stagehand bringing sloooowly"
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dragging that background across the stage? Had me cracking up. You know he's had to sit through a bunch of readings of that shit.

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280. "Re: Eli vs. Nuck"
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I'm reading a lot of people, in here, saying they don't want to see another Eli vs. Nuck. While on the innanets, I'm reading a lot of people also foreshadowing yet another battle of the brothers.

I'm (perhaps naively and optimistically) looking at this a little different. As someone in here already said, Eli's answer to Agent Tolliver's request was ambiguous at best. And notice that all of Agent Tolliver's references were about choosing between protecting his family or protecting a criminal enterprise, in which case his son would end up behind bars. What Tolliver fails to realize is that the criminal organization IS his family, in that it is essentially run by himself and Nuck.

In other words, I really just don't see how Eli betrays Nucky AGAIN. Nuck cut Eli a break in their first battle in season 2, when he could've sent him away forever or killed him, and Nuck went to bat for his son to keep him out of jail for *life*. While he may be a little perturbed that Nuck didn't advise him of the situation with Willie, I think he can still understand that in the big picture, at the very least, Nuck had his son's and therefore his entire family's back and I can't imagine he'd look at it as a totally disrespectful gesture. You never know with Eli, of course, but I'd think/hope by now he'd smarten up.

A main reason I think this is due to the fact that this show never minces words. Every part of the show is there for a reason (the heavy-handedness of some of the symbolism being a major source of criticism of the show by some critics, but I love it) And, at the end of the episode, Eli made it a point to say "thanks, *brother*" to Nuck when talking about the Eli situation. "Brother," obviously, being a reference to their family connection. So by (presumably, on my part) choosing not to rat on Nuck to the feds, he is protecting his family, Nuck, Willie, etc., all at once. In other words, and in a twist of the words Tolliver used to try and strike a chord with him, Eli *IS* choosing his family by sticking by Nuck and not ratting on him. Whereas if he chose to rat on Nuck, sure he'd save Willie, but he'd be putting a member of his family behind bars in the process, in which case he technically wouldn't have totally protected his family. so I'm thinking that he's gonna alert Nucky to the situation with the feds, and they will work together to try and diffuse the situation/get rid of the feds.

Just my two cents, of course. Excited to see how this plays out.

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284. "i agree. i don't see them going back to that well again"
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it's enough within a couple episodes to show that, of course, there's tension below the surface between eli and nucky. but the show's already covered that ground so they'd have to do something special to pull it off again without making it seem tired.

also, if they do it that means eli's dead, which would be shame.

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Agree with everything you said.

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281. "So is Chalky still being gamed by Daughter?"
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Sorry if this has been covered a earlier in the thread, but I didn't see it.

Yeah, she saved him from being choked out, but did Narcisse tell her to do it if necessary? To get Chalky to trust her even more before she completely fucks him over at the end?

The one thing that points to daughter being with Chalky is her telling Narcisse that Chalky doesn't like working with Nucky, which is the opposite of the truth. But I'm still not sure...

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282. ""
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285. "no, i think she was genuinely moved by his tears"
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she saw that chalky felt the connection to the song and saw a "realer" chalky than she ever saw of narcisse, if that makes sense.

no reason for her to stab purnsley, since he had the upper hand over chalky. if narcisse wanted purnsley gone, he could have had any one of his men do it.

she might hem and haw after the fact about whether she really wanted to cross narcisse, but in the moment i think she wanted to save chalky.

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286. "exactly, get chalky to trust her more for what? Purnsley had him dead"
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so you get him to trust you more to kill him later? He was donezo if she didnt save him

  

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283. "So what *was* the deal with Dunn's eye?"
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Shit was just.....fixed.

Then it wasn't.

Then it was. And then it stayed that way.

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287. "fucking heat rocks--"
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godamm this show gets good towards the end

Return of Van Alden!! Richard finally working for Nucky!!

Capone vs the Irish war officially set off!!!

Oh and I see now how Narcisse is going out

Joe Masseria barely wants to work with Jews or Irish

  

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288. "Van Alden making it rain on dem hoes!"
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293. "lol"
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300. "Yo. His wife looked sexxy as fuck in that last scene."
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301. "My name is Nelson Van Alden, an' we 'bout to fuck on all this money"
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That shit was awesome.

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289. "damn, Nucky just came up huge on muscle"
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Richard's worth about 80 heads

Van Alden on "how to become a G in less than 24 hours".

Daughter looked so ridiculously fine right before that beating. what a crazy, fucked up contrast.

Anyone have theories on what the Ron Livingston character's angle is? We got our first hint tonight that he's more than just a rich chump. i just hope it's something interesting.

  

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291. "None...they're both playing an angle..."
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>Anyone have theories on what the Ron Livingston character's
>angle is? We got our first hint tonight that he's more than
>just a rich chump. i just hope it's something interesting.
>
>

I thought her poorly timed confession was her being open and honest with her new love. Then she lied about jimmy's death. I kept yelling eject during the scene. Not sure to who though.

  

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296. "I'm thinking that fake Jimmy she killed was somebody and Livingston was"
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... probably sent by his peoples to find out what happened to him.

My guess is he's probably a PI.


>Anyone have theories on what the Ron Livingston character's
>angle is? We got our first hint tonight that he's more than
>just a rich chump. i just hope it's something interesting.
>
>

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298. "never thought about that, but that would be dope"
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299. "Yep - I made this call in post #239."
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Last night's episode only solidified my conspiracy.

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319. "My ears perked up when he asked her"
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"and that's how you found him?"
It sounded odd like he had already known more about the story of Jimmy/Fake Jimmy.

I'd like to go back and see his reaction when they were in the restaurant and ran into fake Jimmy's friend. There may be more to that scene now.

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320. "What am I, chopped liver?"
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>I'd like to go back and see his reaction when they were in the
>restaurant and ran into fake Jimmy's friend. There may be more
>to that scene now.

Post #239! Post #239!

Sorry. I have a complex for being ignored on things like this then seeing other people get responses for saying the same thing weeks later. Haha.

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324. "LOL... props, I remember someone up top mentioning something about"
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... fake Jimmy's friend runnin up on them in one of the earlier episodes.

And now that I've gone back and read it, it's exactly what you predicted.

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325. "Haha. Thanks."
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And, just to be fair - I'm not saying you didn't make the same prediction on your own. Just wanted to make sure we both were acknowledged. Haha.

But yea anyway. That kinda has to be the play at this point. Like I said, this show doesn't waste scenes, so that whole run-in with Fake Jimmy's buddy earlier in the season while at dinner cannot be just a random thing.

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326. "but the way Livingston looked at her when he asked her what would she do"
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... is she was to lose Tommy.

Shit was eerie!

You don't think he would try to hurt that boy?

Of course shit's gon be pretty damn hard tryna get through Richard Harrow, but..... still.

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327. "Light bulb!"
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>... is she was to lose Tommy.
>
>Shit was eerie!
>
>You don't think he would try to hurt that boy?
>
>Of course shit's gon be pretty damn hard tryna get through
>Richard Harrow, but..... still.

Think Julia and/or her father, or someone who cares about them, sent Livingston as an investigator to get more dirt on Gillian to help their case? Maybe that's why he asked it like that?

I dunno. I gotta watch the episode again.

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331. "seems like a stretch...they're way too broke for all that"
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dude is renting Gillian's house all this time and posturing like he has money. they'd have no way to fund all that.

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332. "Good point."
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290. "Liscenses: Marriage and Hunting"
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Great set up episode...guns being drawn

The hypocrisy of nucky. And chalky called him on it. Of course chalky's stuff is messy as well.

And then narcisse defying him openly at chalky's club. Props to the band for keeping the show going. Damn the comedian was bad.

Narcisse and daughter...holeee shit. That was rough.

Richard with a purpose.

VAN ALDEN BACK!!! took some bodies, took some cash, and got the home front in check. All in a day's work.

Gotta believe torio, rothstein, and doyle get it by the end of this season. Refuse to read wikipedia tho. LOL


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292. "I'm gonna bite my tongue because my gangster history is pretty legit."
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294. "this show is gonna end up in my all-time top 5"
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consistency is crazy... this was one of my fave ep's in a long time and I've loved this season as a whole...

Such a compelling episode and it did not even make mention of the major storyline right now, which is the Eli v. Nucky possibility

Val Alden shined, been a great character from the jump but this was his best episode...

Richard is winning on a personal level and is linking back up with Nucky

The 1 downfall is Gillian, still wanna c her get hers, but it does look like we could be heading that way

Chalky/Narcisse heading for an epic showdown

Chicago about to pop off... these final episodes should be fire


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295. "Yea this show is nutty."
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Love how each season is a book. They do that better than anyone.

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315. "attention to detail..."
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>Such a compelling episode and it did not even make mention of
>the major storyline right now, which is the Eli v. Nucky
>possibility

..eli spoke to nucky about chalky vs narcisse then gave nucky a window of opportunity to come clean about willie, which nucky ignored. not sure how you missed that.




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322. "gonna have to rewatch that scene... was watching it on Go on my phone"
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297. "Rothstein's mess is gainin on him! (*Spoiler*)"
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And about to bite him in the ass.

Looks like his days are numbered.

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310. "it's painful to watch him lose like this"
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but i guess it was bound to happen

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321. "Is it possible that policy on Doyle was a scam?"
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I could see AR having a drawer full of them for various people he knows as a rainy day fund to raise money.





>And about to bite him in the ass.
>
>Looks like his days are numbered.

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303. "Tip o' the hat to Patricia Arquette's mighty jam balls...."
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Cot damn.

Anyone feel like Narcisse had a bit of an inaccurate amount of power in that scene with Nucky? Like even hot headed Capone wouldn't have had the power or authority to come at a boss like that.

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304. "those things are something else. can't stand her granny hair though"
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she looked best holding the shottty at the end


>Anyone feel like Narcisse had a bit of an inaccurate amount of
>power in that scene with Nucky? Like even hot headed Capone
>wouldn't have had the power or authority to come at a boss
>like that.

i think Nuck felt the same way. like this dude is clearly not all there. Narcisse might luck up, since it looks like Nucky is gonna fuck up Masseria's heroin transport from FLA up right at a time Narcisse wants to meet with Masseria. Joe might be so heated (since we know he's not over the L he took last season), that he'll be willing to look past skin color

Looks like Nucky got Richard just in time

  

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307. "He WAY overstepped."
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He gon die.

and yes, Ms. Arquette's jammers are STILL a sight to behold.

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311. "man when they cut to her in bed i was like "WOAH""
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312. "I almost thought"
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she was wearing a push up bra before she laid down with the shotgun because in one of the angles, it looked as if her breasts were fighting their way up to her neck. And the fact she wasn't topless in her love scenes with the Nuckster made me dubious initially.

  

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314. "been peeped since last episode!"
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Did she gain weight for this role or did she just gain weight?

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316. "Just gained weight."
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It's crazy too, because I look at her over the years putting it on and just marvel. Like, that's good weight gain. Her dude has smanged like three different broads stayin' with the same woman. lol

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317. "lol"
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>dude has smanged like three different broads stayin' with the
>same woman. lol

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318. "It's DEFINITELY good weight gain."
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She got good genes.

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323. "mos def, cuz Rosanna could still so get da bizniss!"
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>She got good genes.

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305. "hunting and marriage..."
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..license to kill

van alden has had enough. he's tired of playing the schlep and wants the world to know it. what's hilarious is that life keeps gettin' in the way.

jillian is still the queen of spin. she might've kicked her heroine habit cold turkey, but her true vice is as strong as ever. fortunately, she's not the only one using misinformation to their advantage.

harrow has finally come to terms with the hand life has dealt him. now that he's officially working for nucky, the real fun begins.

capone's hunt for o'banion is over, but his lust for control & power are on the rise. unfortunately, he's not known for learning from previous mistakes.

chalky's on the verge of war with a desperate narcisse, but he might have bigger problems at home.

eli gave nucky an out and as usual, nucky choose to ignore it.

the only truth in all of this: nobody's happy.



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306. "Who built this house!"
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I'ma start yelling that at random moments.



That shit was so gangster. I hope he's back for real, for real.

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308. "RE: Who built this house!"
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>I'ma start yelling that at random moments.

Ahahahaha. Yes.

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313. "And to think, I hated his character so much in season one"
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And now he's my favorite part of this show. Shannon is just the best.

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328. "always liked him as an actor but i wasn't a fan of Van Alden"
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initially...he's been developed so well though

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329. "So, so damn well..."
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>initially...he's been developed so well though

I love Buscemi as Nucky and think he plays the role FANTASTICALLY well but he lacks the character humor of main guys like Tony Soprano, Don Draper, etc...but thankfully the writers (presumably) recognized the need for some unintentional humor and wrote Shannon's role to fill that void.

While I'm on the subject I love Doyle and hope they don't do away with him. His laugh kills me every single time. His talk in last week's episode about the girl he was seeing was fucking priceless.

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330. "Doyle's the most annoying character but i love to hate him"
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i don't think he'll be killed

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309. "Richard's face when he walked in that courtroom"
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the guy's killed around a hundred people, but it's doubtful he's ever hated anyone in life as much as he hates Gillian

the guy who killed O'bannion is Franky Yale, who we've seen off and on throughout the series, both in Chicago and NY. I guess we'll get more answers on details next week.

  

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333. "been doing 2/3 episode catchup marathons all year, but TONIGHT"
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I.am.so.excited.



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334. "restraint!"
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I feel all sorts of ways about that episode. Felt like everything and nothing was happening all at once. left curious what everyone's motives are.


there's only three hours left! © trevor smith, jr.


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335. "godamn i love this show--"
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lol Meyer was shook

i love the way Eli took a step back and 'alright well lets sort it out'

and im pretty certain he told Nuck about the agent

thats why their feeding him useless info

damn i guess Chalky's gonna think Nuck set him up

cant wait for next week

  

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352. "You think so?"
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>i love the way Eli took a step back and 'alright well lets
>sort it out'
>
>and im pretty certain he told Nuck about the agent
>
>thats why their feeding him useless info

I thought of this whole situation the other way. I think Eli was struggling hard with choosing between staying true to Nuck or staying true to his son and ultimately chose his son though it was killing him to rat out his brother. At the end there, once he realized that Willie *wanted* to be a part of this and wasn't just being coerced by Nucky, he figured, shit...now I don't even have a decision to make.

And the agent is gonna bite it now because of that.

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380. "yeah that's how i read it too...Eli came to terms with things"
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and realizes that he only has one choice...family is family

>I thought of this whole situation the other way. I think Eli
>was struggling hard with choosing between staying true to Nuck
>or staying true to his son and ultimately chose his son though
>it was killing him to rat out his brother. At the end there,
>once he realized that Willie *wanted* to be a part of this and
>wasn't just being coerced by Nucky, he figured, shit...now I
>don't even have a decision to make.
>
>And the agent is gonna bite it now because of that.

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336. "Damn Narcise covered bases"
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makes a deal with Nucky that includes giving up Chalky, after cutting a deal with the mayor knowing Nuck will use his connections to get Chalky out of town

now, even though he got away, as mentioned above, Chalky's gonna think Nucky set him up.

so much going on in this episode. good, good shit.

  

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337. "*white horse pike*"
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..eli's short run of feedin' bs to knox stalled in the worst way, with the bureau agent showing once against that he's beyond bold. funny that they've given his character such a choir boy appearance, when he clearly has a few screws loose. he doesn't like being out of the loop, so it should be interesting to see how he handles the changing tide with hoover.

chalky's living dangerously on the edge, driven mostly by emotion and that's never good in this line of work. there's a lesson to be learned in all of this. completely off the rails, leaving his family in disarray with his daughter's wedding cancelled in the wake of his attack on narcisse. this is all the more reason to KNOW your enemy. how do you protect yourself from an enemy when you don't know their reach?

narcisse, on the other hand, is only a tad-bit wiser. true, his actions are filled with emotion, but much more design to his movement. determined to hunt chalky down, he's still minding his business and leveraging assets. his tempered fury delivered a greater prize than even he could've imagined when chalky's daughter walked through the door.

margaret & arnold are a peculiar sort. amazing the difference a little bit of information can make.

capone has a penchant for getting too comfortable, to early. his lofty goals might be on the right track, but his timing is always a bit ahead of his own pace. ironic that he'd survive a hit, only to comment "..lucky for johnny, he left when he did..."

nucky's made several mistakes regarding his operation in tampa, but bringing sally on board wasn't one of them. as a man of significant reason, its fair to say that his ambition served its purpose, but at what cost?


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338. "I love the work Jeffery Wright is doing. That being said...."
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...I fucking hate Narcisse. And I don't mean in the way I'm supposed to as a viewer. I mean in the way of "There is no fucking way he has that much power." I touched upon it above in the comment I made about him in the Onyx Club with Nucky, but this shit is getting ridiculous. Same goes with with Agent Knox/Tolliver. These two characters are stepping dangerously close into "foil for foil's sake."

As I said, I love the show, and still think it's one of the best things on TV. But my eyes have rolled quite a few times with both of these characters in ways that are not part of the narrative but more "On what fucking planet...."

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339. "I lost it when Narcisse slipped and said, "He nuh ready fi dis" to Nuck"
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340. "only thing i don't get is how Narcise leveraged the mayor"
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I'm guessing we'll get answers

Masseria teaming with Narcise makes sense. Millions in H, and his hatred for Nucky trump racism. Luciano alluded to him chomping at the bit to get at Nuck for killing so many of his men. Masseria has shown to put his views aside for buiness, seeing that he worked with Rothstein. If he sees a way to edge Narcisse out like he did Rothstein, he'll do it, but I think Narcisse feels he can prove himself useful enough to be safe

Nuck and Chalky have both clearly underestimated the shit out of this guy, and he's steady playing chess and outmaneuvering them. like how he observed that Nucky and Chalky are more than just business partners. He cut a deal knowing Nucky would never knowingly betray him.

i get what you're saying with the "foil for foil's sake" thing, but it's working for me. Plus i'm not convinced Narcise doesn't make it to next season.

  

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345. "RE: only thing i don't get is how Narcise leveraged the mayor"
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>I'm guessing we'll get answers

I thought the Mayor was willing to deal with Narcisse for the black votes he could bring and I get a feeling he's a bit tired of dealing with Nucky.


>i get what you're saying with the "foil for foil's sake"
>thing, but it's working for me. Plus i'm not convinced Narcise
>doesn't make it to next season.

Yeah, like I've said numerous times, Jeffery Wright is too in demand an actor for me to believe he's going to make it past this season. It would be amazingly ill if they actually killed off Michael Kennth's Williams' character though and made Narcisse stick around similar to how the show killed off Nucky's cousin in the prior season's finale. But I highly doubt that will happen.

  

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371. "RE: only thing i don't get is how Narcise leveraged the mayor"
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>I thought the Mayor was willing to deal with Narcisse for the
>black votes he could bring and I get a feeling he's a bit
>tired of dealing with Nucky.

yup. nucky essentially told the mayor that getting the black vote was his own job now.

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343. "i think theyve set it up--"
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beautifully

the mayor has been kind of wary of Nucky all season

and Masseria hates Nucky after what happened last year

so its not so much power as it is an enemy of my enemy situation

and shit the person that can move drugs to the black community would be powerful as hell

  

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381. "yup...all of this"
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>beautifully
>
>the mayor has been kind of wary of Nucky all season
>
>and Masseria hates Nucky after what happened last year
>
>so its not so much power as it is an enemy of my enemy
>situation
>
>and shit the person that can move drugs to the black community
>would be powerful as hell

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346. "RE: I love the work Jeffery Wright is doing. That being said...."
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>...I fucking hate Narcisse. And I don't mean in the way I'm
>supposed to as a viewer. I mean in the way of "There is no
>fucking way he has that much power." I touched upon it above
>in the comment I made about him in the Onyx Club with Nucky,
>but this shit is getting ridiculous. Same goes with with
>Agent Knox/Tolliver. These two characters are stepping
>dangerously close into "foil for foil's sake."
>
>As I said, I love the show, and still think it's one of the
>best things on TV. But my eyes have rolled quite a few times
>with both of these characters in ways that are not part of the
>narrative but more "On what fucking planet...."


The dude threatened Nucky twice within the span about of 20-25 minutes. Remarkable. I'd be stunned if dude makes it out alive past this season with the amount of habitual line stepping he's done so far to paraphrase Charlie Murphy.

  

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358. "Agreed. In ANYWORLD Narcise would've died when he visited nuck"
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& Tolliver wouldn't have made it out of Eli's driveway. BOTH are taking EXTRAORDINARY risks.

smh

Still, tho. It'll be VERY rewarding when they inevitably catch a hot one - or 300

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361. "That's the thing. I get them taking the risk"
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>BOTH are taking EXTRAORDINARY risks.

...but Holy fuck does it go unchecked. Unrealistically so. lol

Still love the shit, but man does that get on my nerves.

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341. "is narcisse hoover's "friend in harlem"?"
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353. "No He is Masseria's Man & The Mayors Man in the North Side"
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Masseria is willing to make some money off of black folks and swing at Nucky at the same time is like a win/win in his mind.

The mayor may be seeing a shift in tide and is getting with the Dr. to secure the black vote, thinking Nucky/Chalky days may be numbered.

I think they both underestimate Nucky.

Side Note..
I really liked the scene in the alley with Chalky the club staff and Harrow walked out and he said "This here be a friend of mine" Mr. Harrow... Mr. White (handshake).

2nd side note,
I am not sure I like how they are portraying the Capone /Torrio relationship. We all know that Al is super ambitious & takes over, and Torrio is past his prime but still trying to hold on but it is my understanding in real life that Capone maintained the upmost respect and loyalty to Torrio and never crossed him. It looks like the relationship is headed towards a showdown or betrayal of some kind.
Hopefully I am wrong.

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365. "on the main facts they've been very accurate."
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we should know a lot more about their plans for Torrio (and, by proxy, the series) by the end of the season.

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366. "I thought the friend in Harlem was simply the black guy sitting at the t..."
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he was the one that handed Hoover the information that distracted him from Knox's "wagging tail".


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382. "yeah but Hoover told THAT guy to give something to the friend in harlem"
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who is that?

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342. "Louis Gossett Jr!!"
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I have more than a few episodes to catch up on

Wasn't clear on what happened in the car w chalky
And the mayors office

He turned on Bucky and tried to kill chalky?

Also chalky daughter is stupid
Her self righteous ass
Now we got two Margaret's
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351. "chalky's daughter is naive..."
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..and heartbroken (mostly due to the rude awakening)

she's been sheltered, so the fact that she's clueless is completely forgivable. she's never known this side of her father, and still pretty much in the dark.

however, as a widow with 2 kids, Margaret's been around the block enough to know better.


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344. "Not sure if I buy Chalky going 007 on those dudes in the car"
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But fuck it, everything in this ep was so damn good I don't even care.

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347. "Regarding the prior seasons DVD releases for this show"
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Do the DVDs for this show have a lot of commentaries from the actors? I'm more than likely going to cop regardless, but I'd love to hear insight from the actors during this season's run.

  

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348. "Out of curiosity"
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what do the Margaret-haters feel about her plotline in the latest episode? Guess I can't blame her for taking that path given how humble her settings are, but she's getting involved in some HIGHLY illegal dealings, and worse she's going to screw over her boss. I hope she's not stupid enough to think Rothstein is going to let her walk away on her terms she negotiated with him.

  

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349. "Shit ain't new to her at all"
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She was involved in illegal dealings fucking around with Nucky and fucked over her boss when she got pregnant by Owen.

She's finally understanding how the world works.

  

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350. "im not bothered by her like i was last season"
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This story is semi-interesting, and doesn't take up too much screen time. I don't know if Arnold has a play with her beyond the stock thing. I suppose he could threaten to get her in trouble, and use that to get something out of Nucky. At the very least, Nucky cares about her kids.

  

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354. "I like her storyline this season."
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It's not overbearing and it clearly ties into the bigger picture.

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359. "Her plotline is better due to the fact that it's been decreased."
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However, she is STILL making dumb assed decisions w/little to no logic attached.

When she said "When I walk away I owe you nothing."

BWAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!

Bitch please. You REALLY don't get how this shit works, do you? You think being under Nuck's thumb was bad? WAIT until you feel what it's like to live in AR's shadow.

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355. "Question about Chalky's daughter"
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The wedding was cancelled because of Chalky's hit on Narcisse and the mayor's speech, right? if so, why doesn't she recognize Narcisse?

  

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362. "I thought she said the dude canceled the wedding"
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I could be wrong tho. I've been missing a lot of details this season

  

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364. "his parents cancelled..."
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..they were never really sold on the idea, but chalky & his fam did a solid job of appearing to be progressively civilized and legit.




*skatin' the rings of saturn*

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374. "That I understand, but Narcisse snuck into the photo"
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with the mayor. Considering this is news all over the Northside and you know news like this spreads like wildfire, I thought the she would know what Narcisse looks like.

Just wanna make sure I'm not missing something.

  

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375. "real criminals hide in plain sight..."
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*skatin' the rings of saturn*

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..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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383. "even if she recognizes him from the photo"
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he was in that pic/paper as a leader of the community not necessarily as the victim of the hit. she's also not down enough to hear the word on the street about the doctor.

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356. "ya'll know Chalky is fixing to die, right?"
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right?

  

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357. "I don't see him surviving this season either"
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He's just made too many mistakes.

-Being blind to Narcisse's advances and Pernsley's betrayal until it was too late.

-Letting Daughter Maitland ruin his family life and distract him from his business.

-Flipping out in the club and showing Narcisse his hand.

-Shooting up Narcisse's office with pistols instead of tommy guns and then not confirming the kill.

-Having Richard, the show's best killer on his side and willing to help, yet sending him away to be with Daughter Maitland.

He just doesn't seem like he's smart enough to survive against someone like Narcisse. Add that to the fact that he said earlier he was ready to accept death, and I think he'll die by the end of the season.

He's a crowd favorite but they've shown they have no problem taking out major characters. I also don't think they can continue the same story arc of bringing in a new challenger each season and then killing him off. I'd say Narcisse has a better chance of making it to next season than Chalky.

  

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360. "They appear to be setting up, I don't think they gon do it, tho."
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363. "if Wright stays on he could be Marlo to Chalky's Avon"
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because it's kind of got that same vibe. the way Avon under-estimated Marlo, went at him sloppy and kept getting outsmarted. we knew Avon would ultimately win the war with Marlo... until he didn't.

I'm not convinced Chalky dies though. he just escaped death twice (3 times if you count him getting shot). i don't see them doing that just to kill him.

  

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367. "as long as no bitch ass kid shoots him from behind, im good."
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368. "Nah, I'm thinking his baby girl gets got"
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At her wedding.

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372. "^^not paying attention^^"
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..weddings off, and chalky's daughter is well on her way to skid row


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377. "Ah I was thinking off as in postponed"
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Not off for good.

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370. "Yeah, I'm thinking so, too"
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384. "it appears so...which makes me think he'll live"
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it'd be fucked up if they had him evade death that many times in a few eps only to kill him in the finale. i think he'll live but end the season believing Nucky betrayed him.

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386. "Narcisse is gonna use his daughter to draw him out"
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I wouldn't be surprised if Maybelle offs Narcisse, saving her dad.

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369. "does anybody remember the history between Chalky & Harrow?"
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were they just passing acquaintances or did Harrow do something for him bakc in the day?

  

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373. "jimmy and harrow delivered the kkk to chalky back in season 1 or 2"
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can't remember why but it's the klan so idgaf

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376. "It was Season 2. The finale."
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378. "oh yeaaaaah, I forgot about that"
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I think there was a reason for the scenes with Richard & Chalky. Richard is gonna help him somehow.

  

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379. "RE: jimmy and harrow delivered the kkk to chalky back in season 1 or 2"
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thanks

  

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385. "this show is so much better than everything i watch right now"
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homeland, TWD, SOA....all these shows pretty much suck and i just watch them because i used to and have nothing else to watch. this show, on the other hand, just keeps on getting better.

how long does good ol' Al stay faithful to his boss though? Mueller was looking at dude like "AYDMF" after that line.

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387. "-"
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-

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388. "well, if I know my mob history correctly, I don't think Johnny and Al"
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... ever beefed. But it did sound like Al thought he was set up, but I think that's the incident that convinced Torrio it was time to call it quits.

>how long does good ol' Al stay faithful to his boss though?
>Mueller was looking at dude like "AYDMF" after that line.

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405. "yup. and they've been really good at not changing history"
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they tweak things, and add characters/events, but the basics have been very accurate

it seems Al will think Torrio set him up, though Torrio didn't retire behind having issues with Al

  

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389. "RE: this show is so much better than everything i watch right now"
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>homeland, TWD, SOA....all these shows pretty much suck and i
>just watch them because i used to and have nothing else to
>watch. this show, on the other hand, just keeps on getting
>better.
>
>how long does good ol' Al stay faithful to his boss though?
>Mueller was looking at dude like "AYDMF" after that line.


Chill with bashing Homeland, homie...That show has been back to business over the last two-three episodes...That Carrie flip was a stroke of mind fucking genius....

But I agree with Boardwalk finding its mojo again...That show has been NUTS this season...First season form...

They killing it...

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390. "it hasn't won me over yet but i'm still watching"
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>Chill with bashing Homeland, homie...That show has been back
>to business over the last two-three episodes...That Carrie
>flip was a stroke of mind fucking genius....
>

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391. "Torrio's likely taking a vacation at the end of this season"
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But not of the oceanic variety. If this show advances time fast enough, we could see him return in season 6.


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392. "*havre de grace*"
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..gillian finally learns the truth about roy phillips. her confession was all he needed to seal the deal as an undercover agent for pinkerton. well played, mr. phillips. well played.

eli's falling apart at the seams. the pressure of protecting his son while trying to avoid implicating nucky is obviously too much and his drinking certainly won't help. still, his conversation with knox was quite telling regarding his image of nucky.

as for nucky, he's never really trusted anyone and it shows. after being warned, it was only a matter of time before he realized who the skunk was. the real question is: how will he choose to handle it? his phone call to sally could bode well for him in the near future.

chalky white has painted himself into quite a corner. desperate, on the run, and far from thinking clearly.

"..at some point, you run out of road..."

sage advice from an old friend & mentor. just how much of that advice got through to chalky is still uncertain. to truly know your enemy, you must first look deep within.


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393. "for an episode mostly lacking ***action***, I'm more mystified than ever"
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two episodes left in the season, right?

I know what the historical context of these episodes are, but this entire episode played outside of history. Means' story is slightly out of place with history with regards to the show, and Nuck seems on the run in a place where he should still be relatively comfortable (granted, he's a character outside of reality, but rooted in reality).

In some ways, this leaves me even more interested where this show will turn. Especially considering season 5 is a given already.


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407. "One"
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>two episodes left in the season, right?
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Brew
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394. "I didn't really love the Gillian storyline (despite the fact that I pred..."
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I was so intrigued by it, and it played out just like I predicted it would, I just didn't like the *way* it happened. I know nothing about detective work, of course, but did it seem far fetched to anyone else that Roy would have this elaborate faux-murder planned out in hopes/with the expectation that Gillian would absolutely come clean about her murder following it? It just seemed really...weird the way that played out. Like, how was he so sure that his shooting a guy outside the restaurant would cause her to come clean about her indiscretions? What if she didn't? Would he then have to actually marry her to continue the charade?

Again, I'm thrilled I predicted Roy's true intentions (I'll brag about that continuously haha)...but I just thought last nite's episode and the culmination of that storyline was kind of weak and strange.

Other than that small gripe though, great episode. I'm with the poster above me in that so many of the storylines have me mystified and intrigued. For perhaps the first time ever on the show, it's totally unclear which storylines will end in the finale and which will be left open for next season. Thrilled for the final ep.

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396. "definitely a good call"
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I'm just curious if this is it... do we get more background now of how they realized it was her? Do we find out more about the guy she killed? Not sure how much I care but I'd like just a little more...

It was nice to see Gillian get fucked over like that... Also, did he get her off heroin just to make sure she was clean during confession?

  

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399. "RE: definitely a good call"
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>I'm just curious if this is it... do we get more background
>now of how they realized it was her? Do we find out more about
>the guy she killed? Not sure how much I care but I'd like just
>a little more...
>
>It was nice to see Gillian get fucked over like that... Also,
>did he get her off heroin just to make sure she was clean
>during confession?

Agreed entirely, and yes I definitely think that was the reason he helped her get clean. And he got laid out of the deal so it was all worth it. Haha.

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403. "agreed"
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knowing the fake murder would induce a confession was a leap, and i wouldn't have minded as much if the over-all the story wasn't just... meh.
good call in the prediction though haha.

  

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419. "The proposal was a promise of a new life."
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I see what you're talking about, but that proposal and the promise of her leaving Atlantic City and starting over sold it enough for me.

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420. "I don't think you understood my point/question..."
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I was bothered by the assumption by Pinkerton that staging a murder would DEFINITELY cause her to confess to her own murder. I had no questions or issues with the marriage proposal.

The only reason I brought the proposal up was to ask what the game plan was if she DIDN'T come clean following the staged murder...would Peter Gibbons then have to actually go through with marrying her and stringing her along to further attempt to coax it out of her?

Nahmean? Maybe I misunderstood your point tho so .... my bad if so. Haha.

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395. "did Daughter set Chalkie up?"
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if so why were the men asking for her? i wonder how this all plays out now. this is the 3rd time this season where i actually thought Chalkie was going to die.

edit: Someone in GD brought up the guy who went into town but grilled Chalkie before leaving. he probably set them up which makes sense but still no clue where Daughter went off to.

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397. "RE: did Daughter set Chalkie up?"
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>if so why were the men asking for her? i wonder how this all
>plays out now. this is the 3rd time this season where i
>actually thought Chalkie was going to die.

I was 100% sure Chalkie was dead last night after Louis Gossett got popped, thought Chalkie was gonna go out guns blazing

>edit: Someone in GD brought up the guy who went into town but
>grilled Chalkie before leaving. he probably set them up which
>makes sense but still no clue where Daughter went off to.


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398. "him being ready to run made me think that was it"
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after the "running out of road" talk and everything

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400. "the man playing checkers..."
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..he recognized chalky and gave the drop on his location


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401. "The gillian comeupence was so hollow for me."
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They drug it out WAY too long. Also Lou Gosset str8 READ Daughter Maitland.

smh

I mean, I knew she wasn't shit, but I ain't know she was THAT bad. Chalky caught a HUGE L there.

I don't feel like they've been focusing on Narcisse the way they SHOULD have, I'm worried he's going to survive the season and I REALLY want him to die.

Knox is DEFINITELY going to die, I just hope he suffers.

The only REAL question is does Nucky kill Eli, or does Will?

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402. "you may be speaking too soon..."
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>They drug it out WAY too long.


agreed

>Also Lou Gosset str8 READ
>Daughter Maitland.
>
>smh
>
>I mean, I knew she wasn't shit, but I ain't know she was THAT
>bad. Chalky caught a HUGE L there.

we still don't know what happened there. i agree with the other folks saying the dude who went to town after playing checkers is the one who set them up...we still don't know where Daughter went though. she obviously wasn't with those dudes since they were asking for her when they came through.

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404. "yeah, seems she bounced, but wasn't the one who gave him up"
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but in conversations she has with him about Narcisse, Chalky's a whipped fool to throw it all away for her.

  

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408. "he didn't really do it for her..."
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i don't get why this is the sentiment across the board (by fans of and characters on the show). Narcisse and him had beef from the start because of what Pernsley did. From then on Narcisse saw an opportunity to get himself into a position of power in AC. He looks down on Chalkie and figures if he can do it, the Doc can do it way better/bigger. Daughter was just a catalyst of sorts. Beating her just pissed Chalky off even more but at that point the Doc had already put out a hit on Chalky so all bets were off anyway.

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409. "he was off his game because of her though"
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and the times he's not, everyone thinks he is. Without her, Purnsley doesn't sell H for more than a day or two, and Nucky is more likely to take his problem with Narcise seriously, if for any reason, because Nuck noticed things went south when she arrived. even the hit on Narcisse was mad sloppy because he's doing everything off pure emotion.

not to mention, without Daughter, Lou Gossett is still alive because no one goes looking for him. plus HIS daughter doesn't get suspicious and follow him. i think the poster below me be on to something that Narcisse is gonna turn her on to that needle.

  

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410. "I agree the perception is hurting him"
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but i don't see how he slipped because of her...if anything he was slipping because of the damn club. he wasn't on his street shit and he was busy trying to look like a legitimate business man in a club he can't even sit in...that's why Pernsley was able to run around on his own like he did.

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411. "yeah, the club was a factor as well."
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kinda goes back to Jimmy's "you can't be half a gangster" line

i just think that Chalky is willing to be all in with this girl, and she's shown, at the end of the day, her loyalty is still with Narcise. it's hard for anyone around him not to put in on her because since she's come into his life, in less than 2 months he's lost his club, his relationship with Nucky, his mentor, control of the North Side, and probably his family.


  

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414. "well the characters only know what they see"
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but we get to see the whole shit play out from all the angles...she's one piece of it but she really didn't change the trajectory of the whole shit. she was just some extra coals into an already moving steam engine.

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412. "Dr narcisse brought her in"
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>but i don't see how he slipped because of her...if anything
>he was slipping because of the damn club. he wasn't on his
>street shit and he was busy trying to look like a legitimate
>business man in a club he can't even sit in...that's why
>Pernsley was able to run around on his own like he did.

Specifically for chalky
Chalky been distracted since her
Mind you he got really lucky with her killing pernslee
But his focus is way too much on her
It was really clear at the house
She steps outside
He follows
Twice
Louis Gossett character was trying to warn him not to step off the pirch
but his stupid ass is so focused and concerned about her
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413. "by the time she got there the mess had already been made"
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she was an add on but to put it all on her as the distraction seems inacurate to me. the shit was already popping off long before that and the wheels were already in motion. if anything, the Doc's plan of bringing her there got foiled because she fell for Chalky and ended up saving his life...hence him re-arranging her face.

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415. "shes there for a reason"
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>she was an add on but to put it all on her as the distraction
>seems inacurate to me. the shit was already popping off long
>before that and the wheels were already in motion. if
>anything, the Doc's plan of bringing her there got foiled
>because she fell for Chalky and ended up saving his
>life...hence him re-arranging her face.

and it worked
this dude running out the house in the middle of the night
after her
into a forest full of guns
said it all
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406. "a few predictions: (possible spoilers?)"
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- Daughter Maitland dies
- Chalky's daughter gets strung out on heroin by the good Doctor
- Narcisse doesn't die but goes away to possibly resurface later
- Chalky lives
- Sally Wheat dies or gets arrested
- Eli pops Knox himself

- (down the road) Margaret gets in over her head w/ AR and comes crawling back to Nucky. AR is taken out for messing w/ Nucky's wife, not over the gambling debt

  

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416. "I think it's a wrap for"
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Knox AND Eli

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417. "I was thinking maybe..."
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... Eli and Van Alden

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418. "Van Alden looks like he's all in"
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dude is bout to be Al's right hand

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421. "I totally see Eli popping Knox."
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422. "Die list:"
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Masseretti (sp?)
Eli
Knox
Narcisse

SOMEBODY in Chalky's family - not sure who yet.

Chalky lives
Nucky lives (of course)
AR lives

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424. "Dark horse death possibility:"
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Richard Harrow.

Nucky asks to go after Narcisse and end this. He goes in, cleans house, but get killed in the process (possibly Narcisse escapes, but is effectively run out of town).

And to make things extra depressing, the judge decides that with Harrow dead, Mr. Sagorsky dying, Julia a widow, and Gilian in jail, He should send Tommy to an orphanage (just like Gillian hinted at last week). The end.

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432. "Welp."
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Wish I hadn't been right. At least Tommy ended up with the Sagorskys. Ended up being utterly depressing in lots of other ways though.

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437. "yeah, they wouldn't do Tommy that way"
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only the Wire, and Game of Thrones are that cynical

  

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445. ":("
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>only the Wire, and Game of Thrones are that cynical
>
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423. "Good so far..."
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No predictions.

Did like the scene with Chalky and Harrow. Mr. Harrow and Mr. White that is.


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425. "Someone help explain that ending for Eli."
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**SPOILERS**
































So he kills agent Knox in his home.
Knuck tells his son he's safe, but going out west.
Then we see Eli get picked up by George in Chicago?

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428. "my guess is Nucky didn't want to tell his son"
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plus technically that is west of new jersey. i would imagine he'd have to know where Eli is, i don't think Eli has enough pull to get himself protection in Chicago.

where was Eli's son going though? is he going back to school?

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438. "he's on the lam. not good to tell his son where he really is"
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especially since the feds will likely press him at some point. this way he really won't know.

  

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426. "RE: Boardwalk Empire Season Four"
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FUCK not harrow!

damn it he was my favorite character. He was out, I don't understand why he didn't just leave with the Kid even if this chick got out of the murder charges.

He also didn't go out like a soldier.... which upset me the most.

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449. "this is where I'm at.. Winter is playing the card he played with Jimmy"
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talking about how they have to stay true and can't keep people alive for no reason, but Richard was ready to leave that life and his one final good deed goes punished with death and leaving the love of his life and Tommy waiting to hear that bad news... I can't help but be a littled pissed about this

>FUCK not harrow!
>
>damn it he was my favorite character. He was out, I don't
>understand why he didn't just leave with the Kid even if this
>chick got out of the murder charges.
>
>He also didn't go out like a soldier.... which upset me the
>most.

t

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427. "damn...that finale sequence with Richard hit me hard"
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i saw it coming all through the episode going back to his conversation with Nucky but damn if i didn't hope i was wrong...that was heart breaking. the final goodbye with Tommy and his wife was some real touching shit. i hate that he had to accidentally kill Chalkie's daughter though...the last thing he does is accidentally take an innocent life? what a fucked up way to end a great character's story.

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429. ""It" just happened. I just spent 30 secs going "NOOOOOOOO!!!""
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430. "Sad as fuck"
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Straight across the board. Though I can't tell you how happy I was watching Knox get his smug face smashed the fuck in and watching Narcisse get turned out like a bitch.

Knew Chalky's daughter was gonna get got in front of him, but the way it went down was painful. To essentially destroy two of my favorite characters in one swoop.... damn.

Eli riding with Van Alden, Capone and Herc next season is gonna be fucking awesome though.

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431. "damn....--"
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this shit did not end like i was expecting it to at all

im fucked up

damn harrow

  

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433. "*farewell daddy blues*"
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..jillian finally gets her reckoning, as harrow strikes a deal with nucky and the body of james darmody guarantees her conviction.

chalky faces off with nucky, but its pretty obvious that deep down inside he knew nucky never truly betrayed him. truth is, he made his own bed. unfortunately, he didn't realize this until too late and maybelle paid the price with her life.

eli & nucky stood toe to toe once more in this eternal dance they call family. there is little doubt that nucky will do whatever it takes to survive. fortunately for eli, it didn't require his life.

agent knox does not bare embarrassment well and anyone who allows emotion to rule their actions will soon regret those actions. unfortunately for him, the rage of a man desperately trying to protect his family trumps that of a man foolishly protecting his pride.

*capone answers a hit with a hit. although torrio survives, he relents and finally hands over the reigns to al. this should be fun.

narcisse survived the hit, only to be thrown into the pit with hoover. that could be construed as blind justice, but i'm quite sure we haven't seen the last of the good dr.

for what its worth, there's no way richard could've known maybelle was there from his vantage point. still, the fact that he hesitated shows what the viewers have been shown all along:

he's not the man he once was. the killer is gone. that instinct is gone.

that instinct would never allow a man to get the jump on him in a barn. that instinct would never allow him to take a hit in the crows nest after a hit (true or not). his final montage was more than just, as he finally found peace with his family, even if only in his mind as he lay dying under the boardwalk.



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442. "This scene was underplayed."
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>*capone answers a hit with a hit. although torrio survives, he
>relents and finally hands over the reigns to al. this should
>be fun.

I think there was something in the preview for the finale that didn't get used in the actual episode between al and torrio. Had I not seen that, I wouldn't have connected the hit with Al. All you had were slight moments, like Torrio kinda shrugging when he left the room and Al kinda pondering things. They didn't need to make it obvious but I was hoping there was something more there.

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463. "perfect execution..."
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..considering the historical relevance, i think they gave just enough screen time to chicago

with respect to the torrio's legacy, capone's rise, and the overall growth of organized crime, i think this show does an excellent job of weaving fictional characters into factual history (with a few liberties taken here & there).


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464. "RE: *farewell daddy blues*"
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>*capone answers a hit with a hit. although torrio survives, he
>relents and finally hands over the reigns to al. this should
>be fun.

you sure this is how it played out? i know they played up the ambiguity on the show on whether it was hymie weiss or al and torrio setting each other up, but i thought historically al and torrio ended on good terms.

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466. "Yea they're cool, you got this right."
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434. "I'm fucking sick & disappointed"
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I knew that shit was coming cuz Jimmy hugged Tommy the same way.

Marty Scorsese has just made my death list 5.

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435. "fantastic writing"
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when they were at the train station saying goodbye's i was thinking "they wouldn't go there, would they? nah".

and i HATE seeing Richard go, but it makes sense at this point. how long could he go on prolifically shooting people? after what happened he probably would never be able to pick up a gun again (a direction he was already headed in). Tommy's safe, he got Jimmy's body. Gillian gets hers. I start thinking it's a happy ending, but then you remember how horrendous it is. shooting an innocent girl in front of her father...

Now Chalky has to carry this. While it's not Daugther's fault. No Daughter, in the picture, and Chalky still has his.

Narcisse ultimately sells out, confirming once again that he's never really been about shit...

Eli beats Knox beyond recognition.

Torrio hands Al the crown

Amazing finale all around.

  

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436. "as much i dug Harrow--"
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the whole Darmody storyline is now over which is a good thing

next year is gonna be crazy

with Eli in Chicago right when the war with Bugs Moran is popping off?

yeah cant wait

  

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439. "Don't know if I care enough *spoiler*"
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To come back next season *spoiler*











Richard harrow was the only character I cared about
and now he's gone



Eli did what he needed to
Chicago might be interesting but eh
Maybe nucky and salli will be interested but it's not enough of a pull
chalky...ugh a mess
Dr narcisse Jeffery did such an excellent job
But didn't really get his comeuppance
I'm don't know if I'm interested enough to wait for it

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441. "he gotta bend over and be the white man's bitch"
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Which, if he even remotely believed some of that Libyan talk he been talking, is almost a fate worst than death.


>Dr narcisse Jeffery did such an excellent job
>But didn't really get his comeuppance
>I'm don't know if I'm interested enough to wait for it
>

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447. "fuck that, he needed to be beaten BY CHALKY."
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He needed to be humbled and then broken. I'm WHOLLY unsatisfied w/his ending.

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448. "Co fucking sign"
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Dr. Narcisse didn't get what he deserved, they killed my nigga Harow, and Nucky is essentially GONE

Daughter off doing her thing, free from the Dr. and seemingly unscathed.

Ugh.

THE only thing I really got out of this was seeing Knox get his ass beat to death.

:/

Sike, I'm coming back, lol, but still I'm EXTREMELY disappointed.

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451. "agreed"
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>
>THE only thing I really got out of this was seeing Knox get
>his ass beat to death.
>
>:/
>
>Sike, I'm coming back, lol, but still I'm EXTREMELY
>disappointed.



i might try but if they dont get their act together quickly
which they usually dont
its always drawn out
this time i was here for harrow
last time was for Gyp love cannavale
before then jimmy

next year would be for Dr Narcisse
hes so slimy
but *sigh*

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440. "*silently laughs in the face of all the critics who called this show lif..."
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what a season, what a season. © vinny caravella.



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443. "With Breaking Bad gone, this might be the best drama on TV now"
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I don't know, I'd have to think it over, but the last two seasons have actually lived up to the ridiculous hopes I had for this show when it was first announced.

Well done.

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444. "Enjoyed the finale...Every bit of it..."
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Favorite shot for me was the empty seat between the capones at the hospital. And van alden didn't look out of place with the capones.

Nucky lost. Eli has been dead the minute he found out will called nucky instead of his father when he needed help.

Houston, Whigam, White, and Williams should be three names heard come emmy time. All were masterful this season.

Gonna miss Harrow. His heart wasn't in it, but he had to get tommy free.

Damn what DIDN"T chalky lose this season besides his life. LMAO @ "nobel savage" But narcisse showed to be not much more.



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446. "I wanted to fight the air like Tre when Harrow died man"
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I'm more upset about him dying than I am about the Bears losing yesterday, which says A LOT.

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452. "+1"
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https://digife.com

  

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450. "Loved the finale, but the Harrow situation, I'm bitter over"
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I agree with post above saying this officially wraps up the Jimmy storyline BUT they could have done that with Jimmy alive...

I don't look at this like Jimmy and say, welp, richard HAD to die, the show had to stay true... he could have gotten a happy ending and just been written off the show and lived in the midwest with his new family... I guess the argument against that is killing Chalky's daughter would have truly haunted him, I'm pissed at Nucky for even putting Richard in that position, although it was the right play by Nucky... either way... FUCK

I wonder if they check in on Tommy and his new family at all next year or if that part of the show is just over, not sure I can deal with them getting the bad news...

This show integrates important new characters as good as any show ever... it's amazing to think about how many characters are gone from the jump, how many characters came and went after that, and in a season like this they seamless make narcisse, patricia arquette, and Eli's son such important pieces going forward. We barely saw Lansky and Lucciano the second half of the season and they were two characters people were most hype for when the series began... amazing

bravo to another great finale, and probably the best season yet

RIP to Dunn Pernsley, Chalky's daughter, and, of course, Richard Harrow

FUCK Agent Knox


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453. "Boardwalk Empire death toll as of Season 4"
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Jimmy Darmody
Gyp Rosetti
Eddie Kessler
Commodore Louis Kaestner
Angela Darmody
Dunn Purnsley

Manny Horvitz
Billie Kent
Owen Sleater
Louise - Angela's lesbian lover
Roger McAllister - Jimmy's clone

Pearl - Jimmy's prostitute in Chicago
Hans Schroeder - Margaret's husband
Charlie Sheridan - Ran Greek town in Season 1, killed by Jimmy and Capone
Babette - Cute blonde from the club, killed in explosion
Stan Sawicki - Van Alden's successor who Knox killed

John McGarrigle - Nucky's IRA contact in season 2
Eric Sebso - Van Alden's rapping betrayer who drowned in a river
Rowland Smith - The young thief kid Nucky hid out with
Ignacious D'Alessio - One of many brothers killed by Harrow for Nuck to align with Rothstein
James "Big Jim" Colosimo - Torrio's former boss, killed by Frankie Yale

Jim Neary - Atlantic City alderman murdered by Jimmy and Harrow at his desk
Ethan Thompson - Father who lived at Eli's house
Liam - Man who scarred Pearl, assassinated by Harrow
Leo D'Alessio - One of many brothers killed by Harrow for Nuck to align with Rothstein

Roberta - Waitress murdered by Bugsy Siegel attempting to kill Gyp
Jess Smith - Daugherty assistant who commits suicide in front of Means
Sixtus D'Alessio - One of many brothers killed by Harrow for Nuck to align with Rothstein
Elmer Borst - Fall man for Horvitz' death
George O'Neill - Killed by Eli in his workshop
Herman Kaufman - Waxey Gordon associate, throat slit by Darmody for Horvitz


Lemuel Cuffy - Stabbed by Purnsley
Tunney - Nucky's bodyguard gunned down by prohibition agents
Pius D'Alessio - One of many brothers killed by Harrow for Nuck to align with Rothstein
Joe Miller - Beaten to death by Capone for humiliating Jake Guzik
Del Grogan - Killed by Sleater for betraying the IRA

Matteo D'Alessio - One of many brothers killed by Harrow for Nuck to align with Rothstein
Herb Crocker - Klansman beaten to death in Chalky's warehouse
Herman Dacus - Klansman killed by Chalky in season 2 premier
Incrocci - Killed by Darmody after attempting to steal his poker winnings
Jackson Parkhurst - Commodore associate scalped by Harrow

Vito Scalercio - Attempted assassin of Nucky Thompson
Simon - Cocaine overdose during Van Alden interrogation
Emmett L. Coughlin - Killed by a paranoid Van Alden
Kendall - Lynched by the D'Alessio brothers
Davey Murdoch - Driver killed by Capone and Darmody, starting Rothstein/Nucky fued
Victor Sickles - Sherrif of Tabor Heights, burned to death by Gyp

Dick Heatherton - Klansman beaten to death by Chalky's men
Billy Winslow - Darmody's associate, murdered by Sebso to prevent Darmody's arrest
Alfred Gordetsky - Meat-cleaver-to-the-head from Horvitz
Lucien D'Alessio - One of many brothers killed by Harrow for Nuck to align with Rothstein
Jerry - Commodore's sickly pet dog
Orville - Chalky's man killed by the Klansmen raiding his warehouse

Walker - Chalky's man killed by the Klansmen raiding his warehouse
Charlie - Klansman beaten to death at Chalky's warehouse
Nathan Klein - Murdered at dinner by Horvitz during meeting with Lanksy, Lucky and Darmody
Gareth Murray - Bodyguard killed by Rosetti's men in raid on the Ritz
Scarpelli - Killed by Darmody after attempting to steal his poker winnings


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459. "Also add"
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Dean O'Banion
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454. "I guess the Margaret/Rothstein storyline will be bigger next season"
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Was it even mentioned last night?

  

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455. "they showed him moving her into the new place"
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in the montage at the end

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456. "Rothstein lets Margaret into the apartment during the final montage"
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also, from AV Club's post-mortem:


AVC: Margaret is still a character on the show, but she didn’t appear a lot this season. How did you make the call to keep her off screen so much?

TW: Well, everything starts from what’s organic to the story—what feels real. All of the choices we make, I try to make from a place of truth and reality. Killing Jimmy—anything else would have felt phony. Looking at what happened at the end of last year between Margaret and Nucky, I couldn’t see them back together in any logical way until there was something organic that happened that would necessitate Nucky reaching out to her or vice versa. So the choice wasn’t made until we knew where we were heading in episode five with Eddie’s suicide. I said, “That’s the moment where Nucky would logically reach out to Margaret.” Or reach out to somebody for comfort, somebody that knew Eddie, somebody that knew him, and that’s the place where he would decide that he needs to talk to her. To tell a Margaret story separate and apart from Nucky’s story this year didn’t feel like it made any sense either, because it would have just been, “Okay, we have Kelly Macdonald under contract, and we’re paying her anyway, so let’s see what she’s up to.” It needed to fit into the bigger story. It was more of a fun reveal for us also, because I thought, “Oh, this is interesting. We’ll see her for the first time when Nucky sees her. I’m curious: What is she up to? What is she doing? Where does she live? Where is she working? Oh, she got a haircut, wow.” All of those little things, so you’re going along on that ride with Nucky, and then that would be the entrée back into Margaret’s world.

AVC: What do you think her role is going forward?

TW: We’re talking. She’ll certainly be part of the series and part of Nucky’s story, ultimately, but that’s literally what we’re talking about now and just starting to get back into the writers’ room, dipping our toes into season five.


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457. "During the montage..."
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>Was it even mentioned last night?

He was moving her in.

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458. "love how Hoover just bagged a huge link to all organized crime in americ..."
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literally people who will become the most infamous players in mob history

and dude's all "marcus garvey!"



  

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460. "He's been FOCUSED all year...lol"
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Every other sentence is marcus garvey.

Slick how "Unidentified Black Male" came up again. *wink wink* terrence winter.
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461. "That was pretty much Hoover though"
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Dude never had much interest in organized crime while he ran the FBI , but he was obsessed with "sedition" and "un-Americanv activities" and socialists and "Negroes overthrowing the government."

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462. "Yep"
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again the best part was googling these real life characters and historic moments
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465. "That was the reality tho."
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Crazy how they hate us, but couldn't STAND the idea of us leaving.

WTF?

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467. "So I binged watched this, they fucked up Chalky's character"
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but the ending wrapup was superb (abiet a little unsatisfying)

In a show where family is #1 (or more importantly, where the characters do dirty things for themselves claiming family)...for Chalky to have taken such a crazy ass turn was nuts. After his mentor gets murked (Louis Gosset playing badass!) he comes to his senses and she's just a bargaining chip with Narcisse...but I never bought him giving up his whole life for her enough where they would have gotten to such a crazy point.

Particularly because when stories like this would pop up on the Nucky side, he never lost that much control. The ending made that his fall from grace was satisfying considering he lost his club, his mentor, and his family because of his fuckups, and was one of the better storylines wrapped up this year, but I don't think they earned the second act of it.

  

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