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"Mad Men Season 5, Part 2 (SPOILERS)"


  

          

Fuck, I meant to make a new post before the Far Away Places episode aired

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In a word, trippy
Apr 23rd 2012
1
*close-up of Bert Cooper banknote*
Apr 23rd 2012
3
It really is all about the Bertrams
Apr 23rd 2012
100
      "Bertram, he ain't no president." --Wallace
Apr 23rd 2012
112
yup
Apr 23rd 2012
4
Dead on
Apr 23rd 2012
6
that was...uh...something.
Apr 23rd 2012
2
i really liked how this one was done
Apr 23rd 2012
5
RE: i really liked how this one was done
Apr 23rd 2012
7
Yea, I think "whipped" is the wrong word...
Apr 23rd 2012
10
Whipped is the wrong term, but he is a bit too puppy eyed
Apr 23rd 2012
11
      He's more possesive than whipped
Apr 23rd 2012
12
RE: i really liked how this one was done
Apr 23rd 2012
8
We've never seen Roger Sterling as a single man
Apr 23rd 2012
9
Something tells me his MO wouldn't be all that different
Apr 23rd 2012
87
Jane is a stunner by the way...she hurting them all
Apr 23rd 2012
13
The titties were *out* last night,
Apr 23rd 2012
14
Not sure why it's his fault
Apr 23rd 2012
20
Sure, but...
Apr 23rd 2012
21
RE: Sure, but...
Apr 23rd 2012
23
He's not supposed to put in effort, Donahue is 30 years later
Apr 23rd 2012
34
      Hm ok. Agree to disagree.
Apr 23rd 2012
37
      "it's going to very expensive"
Apr 23rd 2012
104
I don't think it's supposed to be either of their fault
Apr 23rd 2012
57
YEAH SHE IS.
Apr 23rd 2012
62
she really is
Apr 23rd 2012
105
They've done an amazing job writing Megan this year.
Apr 24th 2012
119
Miserable relationships
Apr 23rd 2012
15
If we talking Don it's less about a bad relationship, more about his iss...
Apr 23rd 2012
17
      all three actually
Apr 23rd 2012
48
Michael J Fox Mulder Ginsberg.
Apr 23rd 2012
16
Series Finale:
Apr 23rd 2012
101
Peggy is just full of surprises
Apr 23rd 2012
18
Yea, in an episode full of...
Apr 23rd 2012
19
you're probably right.
Apr 23rd 2012
28
I love me some Peggy, but she bugged out on Heinz
Apr 23rd 2012
24
hopefully they don't lose the client
Apr 23rd 2012
25
Nah, they won't lose the account.
Apr 23rd 2012
49
      she was and he was
Apr 23rd 2012
88
Just goes to show how Don is slipping
Apr 23rd 2012
94
RE: Peggy is just full of surprises
Apr 23rd 2012
26
i wanted to know what her motivation was.
Apr 23rd 2012
32
      RE: i wanted to know what her motivation was.
Apr 23rd 2012
44
           but women don't just give random dudes hand jobs. lol.
Apr 23rd 2012
51
                I guess the weed was just that damn good, lol
Apr 23rd 2012
65
                yeah they do
Apr 23rd 2012
76
                ha. nice try.
Apr 23rd 2012
79
                     well...it does happen
Apr 23rd 2012
89
                          Glad I wasn't the only one getting analytical about the hando
Apr 23rd 2012
92
                               i GUESS its a control thing
Apr 24th 2012
124
                                    Did you miss where she stopped his hand from reaching her crotch?
Apr 24th 2012
125
                                         right.
Apr 24th 2012
126
                                         of course i saw that
Apr 24th 2012
127
                I think they are trying show her aspiration to be like Don...
Apr 24th 2012
115
                     RE: I think they are trying show her aspiration to be like Don...
Apr 24th 2012
129
Of all the things that could throw her life into a tailspin
Apr 23rd 2012
93
Was that a callback to season 4?
Apr 24th 2012
118
      i gotta go back and watch that
Apr 24th 2012
128
wow, so I'm the only one that thinks Megan on that BS?
Apr 23rd 2012
22
RE: wow, so I'm the only one that thinks Megan on that BS?
Apr 23rd 2012
27
On point reply
Apr 23rd 2012
29
Exactly.
Apr 23rd 2012
30
But the WAY she did it was foul.
Apr 23rd 2012
43
      Cosignature. She was way off-base pulling that...
Apr 23rd 2012
85
           IOWs
Apr 23rd 2012
90
           They were both acting a hot mess in front of the client though
Apr 23rd 2012
98
Ok, but she proved his point.
Apr 23rd 2012
39
      RE: Ok, but she proved his point.
Apr 23rd 2012
45
      You're in here dropping gems
May 01st 2012
211
           Haha - thanks bruh, I try.
May 01st 2012
213
      By that summation, there are no adults on this show
Apr 23rd 2012
91
           You'll get no argument from me.
May 01st 2012
219
this is very genderwarzy of you. lol.
Apr 23rd 2012
31
lol, not trying to sice.
Apr 23rd 2012
40
i feel like yall WANT megan to be shady.
Apr 23rd 2012
35
She might have been but come on, Don earned that shit
Apr 23rd 2012
41
lol, that's the thing. That WAS sweet & Doting for Don.
Apr 23rd 2012
46
RE: lol, that's the thing. That WAS sweet & Doting for Don.
Apr 23rd 2012
56
      We MOSTLY agree.
Apr 23rd 2012
59
"The woman speaks english..."
Apr 23rd 2012
47
I don't think Don earned exactly THAT though
Apr 23rd 2012
53
      Agreed but are you saying...
Apr 23rd 2012
54
      That shit was NOT accidental...
Apr 23rd 2012
58
      My point was that she immediately felt awful about it...
Apr 23rd 2012
61
           What Question whether I've said dumb shit in an argument?
Apr 23rd 2012
72
           Hahaha no doubt.
Apr 23rd 2012
75
           did she?
Apr 23rd 2012
77
                RE: did she?
Apr 23rd 2012
81
                     ^^^
Apr 23rd 2012
95
                     Yeah there was a QUICK second of remorse
Apr 24th 2012
121
      I've said stuff in anger, but I know there's lines not to cross
Apr 23rd 2012
      RE: I don't think Don earned exactly THAT though
Apr 23rd 2012
55
      At the end of the day, you never drive off on a woman
Apr 23rd 2012
96
           even when you win, you lose
Apr 24th 2012
120
           You married? Ducking conflict is an art
Apr 24th 2012
132
           Eh, she wanted Dick Whitman, she got Dick Whitman
Apr 24th 2012
123
they were both wrong
Apr 23rd 2012
52
Megan's a robot. no human gonna eat all that sherbet w/out brain freeze.
Apr 23rd 2012
60
      ^^^this.
Apr 23rd 2012
66
      I don't know if I could even continue a convo after stuffing that much
Apr 24th 2012
116
this felt like twin peaks or something
Apr 23rd 2012
33
Wow, I loved each vignette.
Apr 23rd 2012
36
RE: Wow, I loved each vignette.
Apr 23rd 2012
42
RE: Wow, I loved each vignette.
Apr 23rd 2012
67
      Haha yea for sure.
Apr 23rd 2012
68
           as someone who has taken their fair share of acid...
Apr 23rd 2012
69
                RE: as someone who has taken their fair share of acid...
Apr 23rd 2012
70
                lol word...
Apr 23rd 2012
71
                Same here...
Apr 23rd 2012
86
                I was wondering about that
Apr 23rd 2012
97
                     very true...
Apr 23rd 2012
103
                     fam that was the sence that was the icing on the cake IMO
Apr 23rd 2012
110
                          Yeah that scene was very well-played
Apr 24th 2012
131
RE: Wow, I loved each vignette.
Apr 23rd 2012
50
      i understood Don's anger
Apr 23rd 2012
82
           i dont think megans reaction was unrealistic or unfair
Apr 23rd 2012
83
                Like he said, 'it was a fight'
Apr 23rd 2012
99
Nice ep....
Apr 23rd 2012
38
it tastes like perfume.
Apr 23rd 2012
63
Meh - gan
Apr 23rd 2012
74
did i just watch mad men or the movie GO?
Apr 23rd 2012
64
The bottle playing loud classical music when Roger opened it...
Apr 23rd 2012
73
they made it trippy in a realistic way.
Apr 23rd 2012
80
That LSD scene could have been hammy as...
Apr 23rd 2012
102
before they went into the parlor, expected a key swap party
Apr 23rd 2012
78
Well, the 1919 series is close to that
Apr 23rd 2012
84
The Psych wasn't the one on the floor
Apr 24th 2012
113
lol @ Bert calling out Don for not doing shit
Apr 23rd 2012
106
Bert fuckin Cooper!
Apr 23rd 2012
107
Dude's on that illuminati tip
Apr 23rd 2012
108
Hahahah @
Apr 23rd 2012
109
one of my favorite moments of the whole EP
Apr 23rd 2012
111
Yo, he pulled that ngh card so smoove
Apr 24th 2012
114
As said in other season's posts, dude plays the game...
Apr 24th 2012
122
i was half expecting to give don the boot
Apr 24th 2012
130
so very glad i was high off my balls for that.
Apr 24th 2012
117
I wish I had an artists rendering of
Apr 29th 2012
133
the Peggy-faces are in full-effect tonight.
Apr 29th 2012
134
How's the city? Dirty.
Apr 29th 2012
135
why isn't Glen wearing a "COLLEGE" sweater?
Apr 29th 2012
136
I'm not sure he is in college
Apr 29th 2012
139
He's gotta be in boarding school
Apr 29th 2012
141
that's not what i was implying. he just reminds me of Belushi lol.
Apr 30th 2012
143
      ooooh my bad lol
May 02nd 2012
228
      maybe the Belushi thing is subconscious
May 04th 2012
237
he's at boarding school.
Apr 29th 2012
142
he's at camp...
Apr 30th 2012
193
"One day your little daughter will spread her legs and fly away."
Apr 29th 2012
137
poor Sally
Apr 29th 2012
138
that was just awful
Apr 30th 2012
159
      most kids would, but she's Sally Draper
Apr 30th 2012
197
That table scene...
Apr 29th 2012
140
http://gif.mocksession.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/SALLY-STERLING-BJ....
Apr 30th 2012
144
Shout out to Roger getting his swag back...lol
May 01st 2012
221
Was anyone else laughing?
Apr 30th 2012
153
we have baseball.
Apr 30th 2012
145
One day she'll spread her legs and fly away! *DEAD*
Apr 30th 2012
146
I SCREAMED, but that was MAD disrespectful
Apr 30th 2012
152
      I think it was a malaprop
Apr 30th 2012
163
           oh yeah, but it was definitely intentional - not a slip at all.
Apr 30th 2012
173
so what do yall think Megan's real ambition was? Is she a commie spy?
Apr 30th 2012
147
am i the only person who doesn't buy into the secret ulterior
Apr 30th 2012
148
Well, I think I'm with you but ...
Apr 30th 2012
150
I for one am falling back on the Megan suspicions
Apr 30th 2012
156
co-sign all of this...she solidified how good they are together in this ...
Apr 30th 2012
170
niggas just want megan to be scheming
Apr 30th 2012
161
      It's displaced Betty hate now that she's out of the picture
Apr 30th 2012
169
           That's DEFINITELY true re: Skylar White
Apr 30th 2012
191
                Don't even get me started on that shit
Apr 30th 2012
192
                Skylar and Betty ARE awful though. thats the thing
May 02nd 2012
226
                     you hate Skylar because you hate women
May 07th 2012
264
she seems legit
Apr 30th 2012
149
I think she wants nothing to do with her father, politically or
Apr 30th 2012
151
Loved Don's obliviousness to her father's infidelity
Apr 30th 2012
157
      He LITERALLY couldn't.
Apr 30th 2012
166
           "OH! Yeah.... right.... I guess he shouldn't be calling his mistress"
Apr 30th 2012
178
                Becauuuuuuuuse...long distance calls... cost so much?
Apr 30th 2012
181
                     lol on the flip side tho.
Apr 30th 2012
196
I don't buy a grand conspiracy
Apr 30th 2012
160
You know, as foolish as it sounds, the twist caught me flat footed.
Apr 30th 2012
154
Yo, me too
Apr 30th 2012
155
      You know that was Cosgrove's Father-in-law, right?
Apr 30th 2012
165
           They introduced him as such
Apr 30th 2012
167
           Yeah, they've never talked about him b4, let alone shown him.
Apr 30th 2012
171
           Not true
Apr 30th 2012
194
                wow, I missed that.
Apr 30th 2012
195
                now i remember...thanks
Apr 30th 2012
199
           He was on the episode where they all found out about Lucky Strike
Apr 30th 2012
174
           a robot whose sole purpose is to open canned beans...
Apr 30th 2012
176
                every one of his stories ends with a nuke.
May 01st 2012
208
           btw why was he there? i missed that and dont recall seeing Ken there...
Apr 30th 2012
175
                RE: btw why was he there? i missed that and dont recall seeing Ken there...
May 01st 2012
222
Peggy's mom kind of reminds me of my mom
Apr 30th 2012
158
that baby was in S1 right?
Apr 30th 2012
162
      S1/S2
Apr 30th 2012
164
           I don't expect the priest guy to come back
Apr 30th 2012
168
                It'll be back.
Apr 30th 2012
172
                thats what i thought nm
Apr 30th 2012
188
                Oh it's coming back
Apr 30th 2012
177
                     Agreed.
Apr 30th 2012
179
                     and its juicy
Apr 30th 2012
189
                          Very true.
Apr 30th 2012
190
                     NO...a common misconception
May 01st 2012
202
                          this is was i remember too. folks up there had me thinking i was crazy.
May 01st 2012
203
                          yep. i always forget about the adoption thing.
May 01st 2012
207
                               I think that's when Don came in and basically told her this is the only
May 04th 2012
234
did anyone else crack up at Pete's bit with Megan's dad?
Apr 30th 2012
180
YES! A cool Pete Campbell moment
Apr 30th 2012
182
Yep yep yep.
Apr 30th 2012
183
1 of the few times he's actually come across as charming.
Apr 30th 2012
184
i laughed harder at Harry finishing Ken's Heinz dinner story.
Apr 30th 2012
185
Hahaha yea I rewound that part and laughed again.
Apr 30th 2012
186
That might've actually been my favorite line of the ep
Apr 30th 2012
187
      RE: That might've actually been my favorite line of the ep
Apr 30th 2012
198
yes!
May 02nd 2012
227
mini-gripe but the actress playing Megan's mom could barely speak French
Apr 30th 2012
200
I thought maybe the dude was French and migrated...
May 01st 2012
201
i figured her pops immigrated
May 01st 2012
204
you just complained about Julia Ormond?
May 01st 2012
205
      ahhh I did think she looked familiar
May 01st 2012
206
      She was really gettin the neck into it there
May 04th 2012
235
What's with these corproate big-wigs' fixation on the space?
May 01st 2012
209
I thought "You promised me the moon!" = Connie Hilton
May 01st 2012
210
They're all huge fans of Dave Algonquin's work
May 01st 2012
212
lol. you didn't know?
May 01st 2012
214
      early 60s. it's pretty much in the middle of the space race.
May 01st 2012
216
           i think its mid-60's at this point
May 01st 2012
218
                It's the Fall of '66 by now
May 01st 2012
220
                     has not heard JFK's moon speach
May 01st 2012
223
                          I'm well aware of the speech. But there was no reference to it
May 04th 2012
236
Why are cats getting so caught up on Megan
May 01st 2012
215
Zoobie zoobie zoo
May 01st 2012
217
^^^
May 02nd 2012
224
Ken isnt
May 02nd 2012
225
      David Algonquin is though.
May 02nd 2012
229
           I'm stealing all of these ideas, btw
May 03rd 2012
230
                can you imagine Michael Bay's Macross Plus?
May 03rd 2012
232
                     lol
May 03rd 2012
233
I loved that episode. The whole banquet scene was great
May 03rd 2012
231
Pete, you're such a bastard
May 06th 2012
238
RE: Pete, you're such a bastard
May 06th 2012
239
No, but the whole "Megan's got ulterior motives" thing
May 06th 2012
240
      Did you also catch...
May 06th 2012
241
           Oh yeah, the LSD has made him different
May 06th 2012
242
           Don had no patience for that crappy song
May 16th 2012
381
daaaaaaaaaamn that IS mr belding
May 07th 2012
246
He ate his brother Rob
May 08th 2012
284
oh c'mon, there's a thousand bands that sound like them.
May 07th 2012
254
Peggy does not give a fuck
May 06th 2012
243
i was like :O
May 07th 2012
247
It just reinforced for me that she's the only one who can pull that off.
May 07th 2012
269
      That's the fight he should have had with Megan
May 08th 2012
286
pete is on some other other shit
May 07th 2012
244
He was on some Trapped in the Closet shit this week
May 08th 2012
283
Pete will commit suicide
May 07th 2012
245
Someone get the rifle out of his office
May 07th 2012
249
the elevator shaft was Don, not Pete
May 07th 2012
255
      i know -- but i think it was a foreboding sign of something to come
May 07th 2012
256
      such as
May 07th 2012
260
           OMG THE TIMEZ R CHANGING!!!!!!
May 07th 2012
261
                having him start w/'Tomorrow Never Knows' was a bit much.
May 07th 2012
263
                     Meghan did tell him explicitly to start with that song though
May 08th 2012
280
                     "We know what The Beatles sound like"
May 08th 2012
288
                     At least it wasn't 'For No One'
May 08th 2012
295
                          don't you dare say a negative word about that song
May 08th 2012
302
                               I just meant the heavyhanded/bum-out factor
May 08th 2012
303
                                    oh! hahahahaha didnt even think of that
May 09th 2012
308
                                         And for added effect, the record would keep skipping on this part
May 09th 2012
309
      I saw that as the bottom falling out of his relationship.
May 07th 2012
270
           How you just gonna go back to your office and not mention it to anybody
May 08th 2012
287
                lol
May 08th 2012
297
                lol i thought the same thing.
May 08th 2012
298
                     What if that means the guy falling in the show's intro
May 08th 2012
304
Yo, Peggy is still my favorite character up in this piece
May 07th 2012
248
IT'S STABBING ME IN THE HEART!
May 07th 2012
251
      Did he fire you THAT-SON-OF-A-BITCH!
May 07th 2012
252
      That was cute! He's steadily growing on me....
May 07th 2012
271
           ready to go war for his teammate even if it's w/his Golden God, Don.
May 08th 2012
293
      anyone else think that was ad-libbed?
May 08th 2012
291
           i really hope it was.
May 08th 2012
292
Sorry if I missed it, but where's Lane?
May 07th 2012
250
boxers usually take a vacay after a prize fight.
May 07th 2012
253
^^^ Got this answer directly from Matt Weiner
May 07th 2012
257
lmao.
May 07th 2012
259
lol
May 07th 2012
272
With 50 and Bieber in his entourage
May 08th 2012
281
filming Sherlock 2
May 07th 2012
267
who is this new don draper?
May 07th 2012
258
that was the old don draper
May 07th 2012
262
      i think its only a matter of time.
May 07th 2012
268
      The scene in the office w/Roger shows he's wrestling w/it.
May 07th 2012
273
           Yeah, dude's trying
May 08th 2012
285
Ken's dancing to the client's suggested song
May 07th 2012
265
haha i saw that.
May 07th 2012
266
Campbell carrying those skis out Rogers office
May 07th 2012
274
Crane walking up on Campbell in the phone booth
May 07th 2012
275
great scene
May 07th 2012
278
I wanna see these 2 pull a bank heist
May 08th 2012
282
Damn, they paid $250k to get the rights to that song?
May 07th 2012
276
I was certainly curious.
May 07th 2012
277
thats it?! I wouldve expected at least a milli n/m
May 07th 2012
279
No way they'd ever use 'A Milli' on this show are you crazy
May 08th 2012
289
      haha
May 08th 2012
290
      i could see Megan pulling off a rendition of 'Lollipop'.
May 08th 2012
294
So Breaking Bad had to die so that Mad Men could go nuts on soundtracks
May 08th 2012
296
      ?? what does that claim mean?
May 08th 2012
301
           i have no idea. but i wanna know too.
May 08th 2012
305
                Remember the big fuss about Mad Men eating up everyone else's budget?
May 09th 2012
306
Megan: Start with this song. Don: *puts on LAST SONG ON THE ALBUM*
May 08th 2012
299
Hadn't even heard it yet and already thought the sequencing was garbage
May 08th 2012
300
PIZZA HOOUUSE!!
May 09th 2012
307
Can't shake this weird suspicion that Roger's dying this season
May 10th 2012
310
You know, I was about to make this post
May 10th 2012
311
Yep yep yep.
May 10th 2012
313
Agree. And for the record I called this 3 seasons ago...
May 10th 2012
312
how much Gold could he spit before hitting the bottom of elevator shaft?
May 10th 2012
314
but roger's a main character.
May 14th 2012
341
Shame on Betty for using Sally as a pawn piece against Don yo...
May 13th 2012
315
"...and MURDER--you're not going to dinner" "has to be cheap--SURPRISE."
May 13th 2012
316
Dead @ "Stop talking."
May 14th 2012
320
Sally needed an ass whoopin', and Betts and Ginsburg caught Ls
May 13th 2012
317
The "I don't think about you at all" crushed that kid's soul
May 14th 2012
321
Don got his work-swagger back this ep.
May 14th 2012
326
Ginsberg prolly just rode that elevator up and down for the next 2 hours
May 21st 2012
392
It absolutely was
May 14th 2012
331
That kid got Drapered
May 14th 2012
332
Pete had that gleam Ralphie had dreaming about his Red Ryder BB Rifle.
May 14th 2012
334
RE: Sally needed an ass whoopin', and Betts and Ginsburg caught Ls
May 14th 2012
345
      yeah if Don was on his game he'd go with Ginsburg's pitch...
May 14th 2012
350
gotdamn, i was praying for that Gilmore Girl tiddy to pop out.
May 14th 2012
318
Come on, titty...
May 14th 2012
319
BOOBS WITH THE FUR (WITH THE FURRRRRRRRRRRR)
May 14th 2012
333
      http://www.pictureshack.us/images/36989_Alexis3.gif
May 14th 2012
348
           THANK U BASED INTERNET!
May 14th 2012
349
           This . . . this is so beautiful
May 14th 2012
356
holy shit that is her
May 14th 2012
322
MAN, I was trying HARD to MAKE that titty pop out.
May 14th 2012
338
i convinced myself that it did and i saw it...you can't tell me differen...
May 14th 2012
351
maybe the dvd will have the unedited version
May 14th 2012
339
"mom aren't you gunna say what you're thankful for?"
May 14th 2012
323
lol for a split sec it looked like betty took it as an insult too
May 14th 2012
324
RE: "mom aren't you gunna say what you're thankful for?"
May 14th 2012
336
i have a love/hate feeling about sally
May 14th 2012
340
      RE: i have a love/hate feeling about sally
May 14th 2012
342
      let's not blame just the mother here.
May 14th 2012
343
      Yea they're both at fault to a large extent.
May 14th 2012
347
           but i wonder if don had sole or primary custody
May 14th 2012
352
      this
May 14th 2012
344
      act like it wasn't true though...Betty was hungry as hell haha
May 14th 2012
353
           it was funny in a cringeworthy way
May 14th 2012
357
first time i've seen jon hamm and not don draper in 5 seasons
May 14th 2012
325
Huh?
May 14th 2012
327
      RE: Huh?
May 14th 2012
328
           Ohhh ok ok...
May 14th 2012
329
           You saw Megan's calming influence on him.
May 14th 2012
330
I hate Betty.
May 14th 2012
335
Banner:Hulk::Home-Don:Work-Don
May 14th 2012
337
      Ginsberg could never do Don's job...
May 14th 2012
354
           All very well said...
May 14th 2012
355
           it was never a theme of Don's though...which is why its so weird
May 15th 2012
366
                Yea definitely...
May 15th 2012
368
           you're right, i didn't think that through, but...
May 15th 2012
363
                true indeed
May 15th 2012
367
Sterling Campbell Draper Price - Roger
May 14th 2012
346
between Zoobie Zoo changing and the Gilmore Girl in the fur.
May 14th 2012
358
Don's line was like a boxer smiling after taking one on the chin
May 14th 2012
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Hahaha - solid analogy.
May 14th 2012
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In the context of that scene, however, it was cold blooded
May 15th 2012
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      oh Don hurt him, for sure
May 15th 2012
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           Are we sure he's lying tho?
May 15th 2012
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                That's also my point
May 15th 2012
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                Right yea - I see what you're saying...
May 15th 2012
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                to me, Don's been more off his game than ever this season
May 15th 2012
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                Yeah, that's the thing- WORK hasn't been on Don's radar
May 21st 2012
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                he is....
May 15th 2012
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                     Yup! plus he puposely left Ginsburgs shit in the cab
May 15th 2012
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                     Except he didn't "spend the episode trying to outdo his idea"
May 15th 2012
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                          ^denial
May 15th 2012
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                               Okay, player.
May 15th 2012
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                               HA!
May 15th 2012
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I feel bad for finding humor in Betty's struggle with weight and
May 14th 2012
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ngga that affliction is called wont get off the couch..
May 21st 2012
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I call BULL and SHIT on feeling bad for Jane
May 15th 2012
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Every Man for Himself is another one of the season's themes (EDIT)
May 15th 2012
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      Yo, I got a nerd woody, reading this response.
May 15th 2012
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Kinsey Krishna? Harry Krishna?
May 20th 2012
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i'm forgetting how..how?!
May 20th 2012
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Harry Crane needs a wacky spinoff
May 20th 2012
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RE: Harry Crane needs a wacky spinoff
May 20th 2012
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Loved the image of him forging Don's signature
May 21st 2012
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      ^^^
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           It was a fantastic moment
May 22nd 2012
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any one else imagining Joan and Don together?
May 20th 2012
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i did..and i think they did too for a min...
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I hope it doesn't happen but we may be heading toward it
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you think so?
May 21st 2012
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Imagining? Let me show you my fan fiction.
May 21st 2012
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i did but i don't want it to actually happen.
May 21st 2012
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      hell to the yes
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           but see joan's a bitch.
May 21st 2012
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I love the fact that Kinsey wrote a fucking Star Trek spec
May 21st 2012
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the star trek/roddenberry reference was awesome
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YES
May 21st 2012
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I WOULD WATCH THIS SHIT
May 21st 2012
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^^^ Hired
May 21st 2012
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Naw, we need a spinoff with Crane, Kinsey and Cosgrove
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PLEASE CAN WE HAVE ROGER CAMEOS???
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      Done nm
May 22nd 2012
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i mean
May 21st 2012
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It's pronoucned Neg-Ron! But they're white!
May 22nd 2012
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la la lakshimi
May 21st 2012
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neither
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so that means her response was right
May 21st 2012
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      no, it just means it was what it was
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Look at you
May 21st 2012
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i can't be the only one who DOESNT think she put Don
May 21st 2012
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it could go either way @ this point
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      I don't think he ever would seduce Joan
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yo can some one please explain
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she's a wingnut. harry pointed out how she was hustlin backwards
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i thought she fucked Crane to expose his disloyalty to Kinsey.
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      Ditto
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      would've been the closest "logical" reason for fucking him
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           nah didn't you see her face when she said that?!
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it seemed over the top to me but she knows who she married...
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Christmas Waltz...more like Christmas Schmaltz
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I disagree with pretty much everything you just said...
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I agree
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      I'm pretty sure this was more than strongly hinted at previously
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      Also, the Krishna stuff wasn't just "shoehorned" in just because
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      ^^^^ right.
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      We've got almost zero explanation of Lane's financial problems
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           RE: We've got almost zero explanation of Lane's financial problems
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                RE: We've got almost zero explanation of Lane's financial problems
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                     really? you don't see the problem here?
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                     wait a menudo there compadre
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                          i'm pretty sure they touch on the tuition more than once
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                               RE: i'm pretty sure they touch on the tuition more than once
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                               Brand new Jaguar $6000, Baby Lane's tuition $8000
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                     RE: We've got almost zero explanation of Lane's financial problems
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                     sorry if I was confuing there
May 22nd 2012
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                     Guy...he's essentially the CFO.
May 22nd 2012
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                          Please it is not that bad
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                               RE: Please it is not that bad
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                                    RE: Please it is not that bad
May 22nd 2012
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                                         Ha yea - right.
May 22nd 2012
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      RE: I agree
May 22nd 2012
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I'm also loving Roger continually bringing his acid trip
May 22nd 2012
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This same Paul Kinsey hooked up with Joan right?
May 27th 2012
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Booze?
May 27th 2012
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      "You have a big mouth!"
May 27th 2012
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can we get a mm season 5, part 3 post
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^
May 27th 2012
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Freddy Rumsen!!!!
May 27th 2012
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Peggy, you're awesome
May 27th 2012
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So, did they just write Peggy out of the series?
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No, she's not done
May 28th 2012
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1. "In a word, trippy"
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Peggy beat up on some unsuspecting dick, then took a trip to the movies

Don's bamma ass was waaaaay too excited for orange sherbert at the HoJo. Actually Don didn't make an appearance this week, Dick Whitman was filling in for him.

Ginsberg's from Mars (Awesome backstory, was kind of suspecting something along those lines... noticed he used the word "displaced" – Came up in Roger and Jane's convo as well)

And Roger. Oh man, Roger. That whole scene was great. Great music choice, great utilization of sound all around. Hilarious, mind bending, and surprisingly sincere... That dialogue between him and Jane could have been a hot mess but I think they pulled it off. Also notice that "couple on the floor" shot came up in both Roger's and Don's homes... For a second there I thought they were gonna pull off the most amicable TV breakup ever... but I think once Roger's afterglow fades away he's gonna be in for some shit. "It's gonna be expensive" – Shots fired.

Great Megan episode... Should calm some nerves around here about her true motivations. Don needed to hear that and I think the audience did, too. This is the first time she's really come off as a fully fleshed out character to me, and I like it.

Oh, and Bert "Sock It To 'Em" Muthafuckin Cooper Esquire. This *is* my business, bitch. (Don needed to hear that as well)

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3. "*close-up of Bert Cooper banknote*"
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>Oh, and Bert "Sock It To 'Em" Muthafuckin Cooper Esquire. This
>*is* my business, bitch. (Don needed to hear that as well)

  

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112. ""Bertram, he ain't no president." --Wallace"
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4. "yup"
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>Actually Don didn't make an appearance this week,
>Dick Whitman was filling in for him.

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6. "Dead on"
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>Actually Don didn't make an appearance this week,
>Dick Whitman was filling in for him.

He was so clueless I was confused.

  

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2. "that was...uh...something."
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*scratches head* ...yeah.

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5. "i really liked how this one was done"
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...nice change of pace from they way they normally tell a story...

Cooper was right, and i LOVE how he's reaslized that he may not have an office, but he still clearly has work to do....they also deftly showed us what he's been doing, sitting around in all those lil places around the offices...paying attention....


....Roger's not the smartest, and i think for him the grass always looks greener on the other side...he coulda made it work with ole girl, but he'd rather try something else...same problem he had with his first wife.....

...Peggy needed an adventure, and created one, then after listening to the Martian Manhunter, she wanted reality again....

...and yeah, it's more than obvious Don is whipped, and he should be by now....i hope they can find a balance and make it work, but he's gonna have to stop playing around and go back to work, and let her do the same....

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7. "RE: i really liked how this one was done"
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>...and yeah, it's more than obvious Don is whipped, and he
>should be by now....i hope they can find a balance and make it
>work, but he's gonna have to stop playing around and go back
>to work, and let her do the same....
- Why is everyone saying Don is whipped? He's been treating poor Megan like a play toy, taking her out whenever he feels like. Making decisions for her like she was his child. She needed to take a stand, call him out on his bullshit; and I was proud of her for it (I'm really starting to like her character). He saw that he could have lost her, I think he genuinely loves her and wants the relationship to work.
He needed to humbled a bit.

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10. "Yea, I think "whipped" is the wrong word..."
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>
>>...and yeah, it's more than obvious Don is whipped, and he
>>should be by now....i hope they can find a balance and make
>it
>>work, but he's gonna have to stop playing around and go back
>>to work, and let her do the same....
>- Why is everyone saying Don is whipped? He's been treating
>poor Megan like a play toy, taking her out whenever he feels
>like. Making decisions for her like she was his child. She
>needed to take a stand, call him out on his bullshit; and I
>was proud of her for it (I'm really starting to like her
>character). He saw that he could have lost her, I think he
>genuinely loves her and wants the relationship to work.
>He needed to humbled a bit.
>

but the sentiment is correct, in that he is so in love with her that the rest of his life has become kind of a convoluted mess without him hardly even noticing. Hopefully Cooper's words will strike a cord with Draper cause he definitely needs to get his work back on track.

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11. "Whipped is the wrong term, but he is a bit too puppy eyed"
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>>...and yeah, it's more than obvious Don is whipped, and he
>>should be by now....i hope they can find a balance and make
>it
>>work, but he's gonna have to stop playing around and go back
>>to work, and let her do the same....
>- Why is everyone saying Don is whipped? He's been treating
>poor Megan like a play toy, taking her out whenever he feels
>like. Making decisions for her like she was his child. She
>needed to take a stand, call him out on his bullshit; and I
>was proud of her for it (I'm really starting to like her
>character). He saw that he could have lost her, I think he
>genuinely loves her and wants the relationship to work.
>He needed to humbled a bit.

Usually when people talk about 'whipped' its talking about power dynamics. Here it's because Don, someone who's ALWAYS been calculating to the point of creating a whole new lifestyle/persona for himself, is a bit too 'IM IN LOVE AND THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS'.

  

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12. "He's more possesive than whipped"
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8. "RE: i really liked how this one was done"
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>...nice change of pace from they way they normally tell a
>story...
>
>Cooper was right, and i LOVE how he's reaslized that he may
>not have an office, but he still clearly has work to
>do....they also deftly showed us what he's been doing, sitting
>around in all those lil places around the offices...paying
>attention....

Yep yep yep. "Everyone's got somewhere to be today" or however he said it. Genius. This show really never misses an opportunity. Cooper is the fuckin MAN.


>....Roger's not the smartest, and i think for him the grass
>always looks greener on the other side...he coulda made it
>work with ole girl, but he'd rather try something else...same
>problem he had with his first wife.....

Yep. Roger will never be happy. And this is why I am absolutely convinced that he is the guy falling from the building in the intro. I'm starting to become convinced that it'll happen before this season is over.

In fact, when they went back and re-played the scene in the office in between Roger's acid trip and Don's HoJo trip, I was ABSOLUTELY convinced that the whole phone call to Peggy by Don, etc., was a reaction to hearing about Roger's suicide.

Glad it wasn't that, but literally my heart started racing a little faster as that scene in the office played out the 2nd time.


>...Peggy needed an adventure, and created one, then after
>listening to the Martian Manhunter, she wanted reality
>again....
>
>...and yeah, it's more than obvious Don is whipped, and he
>should be by now....i hope they can find a balance and make it
>work, but he's gonna have to stop playing around and go back
>to work, and let her do the same....

Hell yea. Glad Cooper spoke up. Someone needed to say it and I don't know that there was anyone better to have done so. "This *IS* my business," motherfucker. He still runs shit even if it's behind the scenes. The old, wise man. I'm glad he's back.

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9. "We've never seen Roger Sterling as a single man"
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He leaped straight from Mona to Jane with nothing in between. Could be interesting.

Great performance by Jessica Pare. I doubt she'll get any awards love, but she's been killing it when she gets a chance to do something. Also, I could watch her eat sherbert forever.

I dug the storytelling structure. Although I missed the first couple minutes so when I saw Don frantically calling Peggy I thought I had missed something huge.

What's Harry Crane been up to?

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87. "Something tells me his MO wouldn't be all that different"
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13. "Jane is a stunner by the way...she hurting them all"
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Roger traded up when he landed her. Too bad they couldn't make it work, more so it's on him.

But ultimately I'm on #TeamMegan, ever since last season at the restaurant with the spilled milkshake. She has continued to improve, again, proud of her *appluase*.

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14. "The titties were *out* last night,"
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Like as much as you could show w/o going the whole way. Yes she's bad. First episode I thought the actress did her thing too

  

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20. "Not sure why it's his fault"
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>Roger traded up when he landed her. Too bad they couldn't
>make it work, more so it's on him. '

She wasn't ride or die, not like the 1st Ms. Sterling, not like Megan.

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21. "Sure, but..."
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it didn't seem like Roger was putting in all that much effort. At all.

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23. "RE: Sure, but..."
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>it didn't seem like Roger was putting in all that much
>effort. At all.
- Bingo! Plus he stay cheating.

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34. "He's not supposed to put in effort, Donahue is 30 years later"
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>it didn't seem like Roger was putting in all that much
>effort. At all.

I feel kinda ambivalent about Jane. She slept her way to the top and her husband realizes she's kind of a vain moron, and the resentment grows.


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104. ""it's going to very expensive""
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she got there from, "i can't believe you're leaving me" pretty damn quick

  

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57. "I don't think it's supposed to be either of their fault"
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They started off loving (and liking) each other, but both arrived in the same place separately that neither was getting what they wanted. They just didn't know each other enough to make it work in the long term.

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62. "YEAH SHE IS."
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105. "she really is"
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i can see why roger says it over and over. he's gotta be constantly thinking to himself i want to end this but jesus, look at her

  

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119. "They've done an amazing job writing Megan this year."
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>But ultimately I'm on #TeamMegan, ever since last season at
>the restaurant with the spilled milkshake. She has continued
>to improve, again, proud of her *appluase*.

After the WTF marriage proposal last year I don't think anyone expected a #TeamMegan to exist by mid-season.

She has been incredibly likeable and that really helped this episode. We've hardly spent any time with Don this year, but I was entrenched in his emotions tonight. That's all on the wonderful job Pare and the writers have done with Megan.

Outstanding episode. One of my all-time favorites.

  

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15. "Miserable relationships"
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Why?
For appearance?
They are just that lonely?


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17. "If we talking Don it's less about a bad relationship, more about his iss..."
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Perhaps its his ingrained misogyny, perhaps it's because he's poor white trash that had to forcefully pull himself up by his bootstraps, but it's obvious he NEEDS to have control in his personal life. It's why much better dating candidates (Faye, Joan) don't get far.

When that reflex doesn't kick in, they are a great couple...hell Don's even a better person(although it doesn't make good tv watching). But Zooby Zooby Zoo ain't gonna let his stuff slide(rightfully so, that diner scene was kind of crazy), even if she finds some of it endearing.


>Why?
>For appearance?
>They are just that lonely?
>
>
>*copies/pastes*
>~~~~
>When you are born, you cry, and the world rejoices. Live so
>that when you die, you rejoice, and the world cries.
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48. "all three actually"
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>Perhaps its his ingrained misogyny, perhaps it's because he's
>poor white trash that had to forcefully pull himself up by his
>bootstraps, but it's obvious he NEEDS to have control in his
>personal life. It's why much better dating candidates (Faye,
>Joan) don't get far.
>
>When that reflex doesn't kick in, they are a great
>couple...hell Don's even a better person(although it doesn't
>make good tv watching). But Zooby Zooby Zoo ain't gonna let
>his stuff slide(rightfully so, that diner scene was kind of
>crazy), even if she finds some of it endearing.


i was infuriated by the dinner scene
but then i have my own control issues
lol

>>Why?
>>For appearance?
>>They are just that lonely?


peggy too
i'm in shock
she needs to treat her boyfriend better

roger too
welp roger saw his out and grabbed it!
but i bet he'll marry again...and again

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16. "Michael J Fox Mulder Ginsberg."
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101. "Series Finale:"
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Mothership descends on Madison Avenue. Scott Baio walks out wearing a yarmulke.

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18. "Peggy is just full of surprises"
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as usual. i was like, is she really giving dude a hand job in the theater? lol

also, that was gutsy what peggy did with client. i'm not sure women these days in her position would go there, let alone men. however, i'm glad she did it. some clients truly are unreasonably picky, and they have to have trust and faith that these people he is working with, are professionals.

this was an interesting episode about imperfect relationships. it was kind of incredible and sweet to see Don worry so much about Megan. of course, he should not have left her there. i like this girl though, she speaks her mind and doesn't just put up with crap the way Betty did. sure he tries to push her around and treat her like property, but she's kicking and screaming in the midst of it.

its too bad roger and jane couldn't make it work. i wonder if he regrets getting into their relationship so hastily and misses his first(?) wife at all. now that he's going to single again, will he and joan finally come together and be the couple they were supposed to be?

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19. "Yea, in an episode full of..."
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>as usual. i was like, is she really giving dude a hand job in
>the theater? lol
>
>also, that was gutsy what peggy did with client. i'm not sure
>women these days in her position would go there, let alone
>men. however, i'm glad she did it. some clients truly are
>unreasonably picky, and they have to have trust and faith that
>these people he is working with, are professionals.

...relationship issues, the one between Heinz and Peggy may have been the most compelling going forward.


>this was an interesting episode about imperfect relationships.
>it was kind of incredible and sweet to see Don worry so much
>about Megan. of course, he should not have left her there. i
>like this girl though, she speaks her mind and doesn't just
>put up with crap the way Betty did. sure he tries to push her
>around and treat her like property, but she's kicking and
>screaming in the midst of it.

Yep - Megan is great and I love how she doesn't just let Don push her around. She seems wildly ambitious and I think that's the reason Draper is so enthralled with her.


>its too bad roger and jane couldn't make it work. i wonder if
>he regrets getting into their relationship so hastily and
>misses his first(?) wife at all. now that he's going to single
>again, will he and joan finally come together and be the
>couple they were supposed to be?

Yea I don't think Roger misses his first wife at all. I assume it's gonna be Joan that he starts thinking about and chasing almost immediately.

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28. "you're probably right."
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>Yea I don't think Roger misses his first wife at all. I assume
>it's gonna be Joan that he starts thinking about and chasing
>almost immediately.

roger is selfish and impulsive so its probably true he doesn't miss his ex-wife. he should just not marry, period. he likes the glamourized life of a ad exec.

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24. "I love me some Peggy, but she bugged out on Heinz"
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You don't talk to customers like that. Funny thing tho - I think she ALMOST had him, but when she crossed over into angry, from insistent, that's when she lost him.

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25. "hopefully they don't lose the client"
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i agree to some degree it was inappropriate. but i'm glad SOMEONE told his ass.

i wish peggy got a new hairdo. its just not cute on her. maybe a longer style that she can put up and do different things with. or just not do that helmet-looking upcurl to the ends.

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49. "Nah, they won't lose the account."
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She was DEFINITELY right to be mad. Dude is unpleasable.

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88. "she was and he was"
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>She was DEFINITELY right to be mad. Dude is unpleasable.

but yeah even now you don't do that

she was close though
she need to finesse that and maybe challenge dude a bit more on his lack of balls
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94. "Just goes to show how Don is slipping"
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Because his ass needed to be there.

Not because Peggy is incompetent, but because even in 2012 there needs to be mediation between the art department and the client, sexual politics and all that aside. Cosgrove tried to step in a little, but you know his ass was off in la-la land thinking about his next short story about the bean people from planet x and shit.

From a social perspective, the most fucked up line in that whole meeting was the client comparing Peggy to his daughter. Just fucking maddening, because I know shit still gets said like that to this day.

From a business perspective, I've been in that situation where the client is in "I'll know it when I see it" mode, and it's the sales rep that might have to play bad cop a little bit, not the creative department.

Peggy's outburst was unprofessional, yet at the same time it's impressive that she has that capacity to go toe-to-toe with clients like that. Like Ginsberg's stunt in that other meeting, I can't tell if that's a good or bad sign for her career.

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26. "RE: Peggy is just full of surprises"
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>as usual. i was like, is she really giving dude a hand job in
>the theater? lol
- I was like wow, really Pegs? LOL.



>this was an interesting episode about imperfect relationships.
>it was kind of incredible and sweet to see Don worry so much
>about Megan. of course, he should not have left her there. i
>like this girl though, she speaks her mind and doesn't just
>put up with crap the way Betty did. sure he tries to push her
>around and treat her like property, but she's kicking and
>screaming in the midst of it.
- This is why Megan gets my respect. She doesn't just lay down and take it.



>its too bad roger and jane couldn't make it work. i wonder if
>he regrets getting into their relationship so hastily and
>misses his first(?) wife at all. now that he's going to single
>again, will he and joan finally come together and be the
>couple they were supposed to be?
- We can only hope.

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32. "i wanted to know what her motivation was."
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>>as usual. i was like, is she really giving dude a hand job
>in
>>the theater? lol
>- I was like wow, really Pegs? LOL.

did she like this guy? is she thanking him for sharing his blunt? it was really random.

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44. "RE: i wanted to know what her motivation was."
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>>>as usual. i was like, is she really giving dude a hand job
>>in
>>>the theater? lol
>>- I was like wow, really Pegs? LOL.
>
>did she like this guy? is she thanking him for sharing his
>blunt? it was really random.
- I figured it was because she was stressed out, and needed to take her mind off of work. It was an adventure away from the office for her, and escape from her normal life.

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51. "but women don't just give random dudes hand jobs. lol."
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65. "I guess the weed was just that damn good, lol"
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76. "yeah they do"
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You're not giving her enough agency, or you're putting yourself in her shoes.

  

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79. "ha. nice try."
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lets not try to normalize this behavior. LOL

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89. "well...it does happen"
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and it looked like a control thing
since she didn't let him touch her

she had not control over her personal life (she took the reins again though when she got home)
or work

this though? this should could control and get a pretty reliable result
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92. "Glad I wasn't the only one getting analytical about the hando"
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>she had not control over her personal life (she took the reins
>again though when she got home)
>or work
>
>this though? this should could control and get a pretty
>reliable result

I had a similar read on it

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124. "i GUESS its a control thing"
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basically she could have or could not have jerked him off, if that's control to you. lol

my definiton of control is more based on...well, determining if and when sex happens.

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125. "Did you miss where she stopped his hand from reaching her crotch?"
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That happened before the hand job

Control was the operative word for this episode

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126. "right."
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127. "of course i saw that"
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she could also have made it not about his crotch completely

but i guess that's another story all together.

its just weird to me, that's all. "control" means different things to different people, and times.

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115. "I think they are trying show her aspiration to be like Don..."
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...just like Don in earlier seasons, in this episode Peggy
slammed back a scotch and left to seek some sort of sexual
distraction for her problems. She controlled the interaction
with the random dude in the theater, and then left to tell
her boyfriend how much she needs her (like Don did with Betty
in the past).

So, in a sense you're right to say that Pegg's behaviour is
not the norm. In fact, the point of the scene was to show that
as far as women went in the late 60s, Peggy most certainly was
not "the norm". She's competing in a man's game and very much
emulating her mentors.

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129. "RE: I think they are trying show her aspiration to be like Don..."
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>...just like Don in earlier seasons, in this episode Peggy
>slammed back a scotch and left to seek some sort of sexual
>distraction for her problems. She controlled the interaction
>with the random dude in the theater, and then left to tell
>her boyfriend how much she needs her (like Don did with Betty
>in the past).

That's exactly what I thought. All of Peggy's actions seemed to be emulating Don and also showing exactly why she can't be Don. Pointed back to the conversation she had with Dawn in her apartment about "acting like a man" in the office.

  

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93. "Of all the things that could throw her life into a tailspin"
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It's some goddamn canned beans

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118. "Was that a callback to season 4?"
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>i was like, is she really giving dude a hand job in
>the theater? lol

Can't remember the exact quote but it was something like "You know what’s really going on here? Handjobs." - Don, at the movies with Lane

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128. "i gotta go back and watch that"
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pegs is really trying to be the female version of don.

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22. "wow, so I'm the only one that thinks Megan on that BS?"
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Yeah, Don's being a bit paternalistic w/her, but he is DON. That kinda behavior CAN'T be a surprise for her. Also, he was TRYING to do something nice.

Lastly, so we're just gonna skip over that LETHAL low blow she delievered to him? Then she had the nerve to act like she couldn't understand why he was so mad???

smh

I'm sorry, I'm #TEAMDON on this one. She stepped WAY outta pocket on this one.

RE: Roger, I disagree that he can't be happy. I just think he makes the same mistakes. When her married the new girl, she EXACTLY the same kind of woman as his wife. She's just younger. The only woman that makes him happy is Joan, and he just CAN'T bring himself to be that vulnerable, but I think he CAN be happy.

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27. "RE: wow, so I'm the only one that thinks Megan on that BS?"
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>Yeah, Don's being a bit paternalistic w/her, but he is DON.
>That kinda behavior CAN'T be a surprise for her. Also, he was
>TRYING to do something nice.

Sure - but I think the point is that Megan is from a newer generation of women who don't just let their men dictate their lives, and I think Weiner is doing a phenomenal job of showcasing this. Don is used to dominating the women in his life, and Megan isn't cut from the same cloth of Don's previous conquests.

So, sure, Megan knows who she married, but at the same time she didn't expect it to be a big free ride where she could forget about her career and just do what she's ordered. She may be younger, but her generation doesn't just take shit in stride. They want their independence, and with good reason.


>Lastly, so we're just gonna skip over that LETHAL low blow she
>delievered to him? Then she had the nerve to act like she
>couldn't understand why he was so mad???

Right --- it was definitely a low blow. But she had to establish herself and make it clear how pissed she was about essentially being treated like a child and/or a toy that could just be taken out whenever Don feels like playing (which someone else already said so eloquently).

I don't think people are ignoring the "low blow" Megan used about Don's mother so much as they are saying "well she had to assert herself," and not to mention that this STILL is not an excuse for Don to leave his fucking wife alone and vulnerable in a place she's never been. He's lucky she ain't like Betty, Betty would've never made it home.


>smh
>
>I'm sorry, I'm #TEAMDON on this one. She stepped WAY outta
>pocket on this one.

I think they both fucked up but I see what you're saying.


>RE: Roger, I disagree that he can't be happy. I just think he
>makes the same mistakes. When her married the new girl, she
>EXACTLY the same kind of woman as his wife. She's just
>younger. The only woman that makes him happy is Joan, and he
>just CAN'T bring himself to be that vulnerable, but I think he
>CAN be happy.

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29. "On point reply"
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Bottom line. Megan had to make Don See HER, as in, assert that she is an actual thinking person, not some subservient Barbie doll just there to do his bidding. Eat this, do that, speak, now shut up and be seen on my arm...Megan is like FOH with that Ol' Father Knows Best huffery.

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30. "Exactly."
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And I again cannot stress enough how great a job Weiner and the other writers have done this season of subtly yet very effectively distinguishing between the two generations on this show. Just phenomenal stuff in every episode.

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43. "But the WAY she did it was foul."
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>Bottom line. Megan had to make Don See HER, as in, assert
>that she is an actual thinking person, not some subservient
>Barbie doll just there to do his bidding. Eat this, do that,
>speak, now shut up and be seen on my arm...Megan is like FOH
>with that Ol' Father Knows Best huffery.

Although she wants him to treat her as an equal, which is to be expected. She not acting like his equal. The whole scene in the restaurant looked like a teenage girl throwing a temper tantrum.

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85. "Cosignature. She was way off-base pulling that..."
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in front of a client.

BUT, Don was wrong too driving off like that. You NEVER drive off, no matter how mad you get. That's a deal-breaker right there.

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90. "IOWs"
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it was a fight
and they might need to start making boundaries

cause they were basically pushing each others buttons hard
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98. "They were both acting a hot mess in front of the client though"
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39. "Ok, but she proved his point."
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>
>Sure - but I think the point is that Megan is from a newer
>generation of women who don't just let their men dictate their
>lives, and I think Weiner is doing a phenomenal job of
>showcasing this. Don is used to dominating the women in his
>life, and Megan isn't cut from the same cloth of Don's
>previous conquests.
>

Oh, Weinert is doing a GREAT job contrasting the generations. No doubt.

>So, sure, Megan knows who she married, but at the same time
>she didn't expect it to be a big free ride where she could
>forget about her career and just do what she's ordered. She
>may be younger, but her generation doesn't just take shit in
>stride. They want their independence, and with good reason.
>
>
>>Lastly, so we're just gonna skip over that LETHAL low blow
>she
>>delievered to him? Then she had the nerve to act like she
>>couldn't understand why he was so mad???
>
>Right --- it was definitely a low blow. But she had to
>establish herself and make it clear how pissed she was about
>essentially being treated like a child and/or a toy that could
>just be taken out whenever Don feels like playing (which
>someone else already said so eloquently).

See, but by saying something like that, she showed herself to be the very child she didn't want to be treated like. Sullen Teenagers scream "I HATE YOU!" when they're angry and frustrated. Adults, find a way to get their point across w/out polluting the purity of their argument with poor behavior. That, and the scarfing of the Sherbert, that shit was MAD childish.

>I don't think people are ignoring the "low blow" Megan used
>about Don's mother so much as they are saying "well she had to
>assert herself," and not to mention that this STILL is not an
>excuse for Don to leave his fucking wife alone and vulnerable
>in a place she's never been. He's lucky she ain't like Betty,
>Betty would've never made it home.
>


lol, you right about that. Betty'd be lost somewhere on the highway, then again, wheh he told her to 'Get in the car' She would have. In a weird way, I think that Betty and Don are perfect for eachother.

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45. "RE: Ok, but she proved his point."
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>See, but by saying something like that, she showed herself to
>be the very child she didn't want to be treated like. Sullen
>Teenagers scream "I HATE YOU!" when they're angry and
>frustrated. Adults, find a way to get their point across w/out
>polluting the purity of their argument with poor behavior.
>That, and the scarfing of the Sherbert, that shit was MAD
>childish.

I totally agree it was childish - but I again think that this is on purpose, and appropriate. It's showing that while the new generation of females WANT that adult independence they've never had, none of them have the experience or upbringing necessary yet to HANDLE it like an adult should. Again, I think it's a delicate and perfect balance the writers are toggling with.


>lol, you right about that. Betty'd be lost somewhere on the
>highway, then again, wheh he told her to 'Get in the car' She
>would have. In a weird way, I think that Betty and Don are
>perfect for eachother.

Haha - I def agree re: Betty and Don. As strange as their relationship was and obviously it was imperfect, her submissive attitude was perfect for his domineering personality, and vice versa.

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They don't hear you though.

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213. "Haha - thanks bruh, I try."
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91. "By that summation, there are no adults on this show"
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>Adults, find a way to get their point across w/out
>polluting the purity of their argument with poor behavior.

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219. "You'll get no argument from me."
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31. "this is very genderwarzy of you. lol."
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>Yeah, Don's being a bit paternalistic w/her, but he is DON.
>That kinda behavior CAN'T be a surprise for her. Also, he was
>TRYING to do something nice.
>
>Lastly, so we're just gonna skip over that LETHAL low blow she
>delievered to him? Then she had the nerve to act like she
>couldn't understand why he was so mad???
>
>smh
>
>I'm sorry, I'm #TEAMDON on this one. She stepped WAY outta
>pocket on this one.

i think she reached a boiling point with this trip to howard johnson, and she just exploded. i don't blame her. i mean, she wanted to work on that project with peggy and them. the girl has an ambition but she is being pushed around. she had to stop everything she was doing, with little notice, and had to go to the hotel with don. it IS business related, but it really didn't require her to be there. don needs to start treating her like a partner instead of his possession. megan wants that and its not unreasonable. he could've asked her or atleast let her know ahead of time that he wanted her to go with him.

i think its fair for both of them to be so mad and emotional, they're both guilty of it. i'm glad they made up in the end. it was passionate and crazy.

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40. "lol, not trying to sice."
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>i think she reached a boiling point with this trip to howard
>johnson, and she just exploded. i don't blame her. i mean, she
>wanted to work on that project with peggy and them. the girl
>has an ambition but she is being pushed around. she had to
>stop everything she was doing, with little notice, and had to
>go to the hotel with don. it IS business related, but it
>really didn't require her to be there. don needs to start
>treating her like a partner instead of his possession. megan
>wants that and its not unreasonable. he could've asked her or
>atleast let her know ahead of time that he wanted her to go
>with him.

No, I definitely see why she was so upset. Don was being boorish. I just feel that in adult relationships, there needs to be emotional safety. How can Don EVER really trust her, if he knows she's got that in her arsenal ready to rip whenever. SOME things need to be off limits.

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35. "i feel like yall WANT megan to be shady."
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41. "She might have been but come on, Don earned that shit"
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He was less paternalistic and more condescending prick

He treated her like Sally, who would at least had the chance to pick her own dessert

She cut him low but let's not act like he was this sweet guy who was doting on her for the entire episode

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46. "lol, that's the thing. That WAS sweet & Doting for Don."
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>He was less paternalistic and more condescending prick
>
>He treated her like Sally, who would at least had the chance
>to pick her own dessert
>
>She cut him low but let's not act like he was this sweet guy
>who was doting on her for the entire episode

The smile he had on his face, the thought that "It's only 1.5 hrs from Montreal." He really thought he was winning. He had no idea what an ass he was making of himself. He prolly STILL thinks that what he did wrong was leave her, not all the shit that preceeded it.

As others have expressed he is used to dominating the women in his life. He's used to making their decisions for them. Now I'm not saying that's right, but it is what it is, and I'm SURE she knew/knows that.

Now, for her to go to THAT painful a wound, over Don, essentially, just being Don, is absurd, and IMO immature.

She should've just talked to him. Be firm, be assertive and express yourself.

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56. "RE: lol, that's the thing. That WAS sweet &amp; Doting for Don."
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>As others have expressed he is used to dominating the women in
>his life. He's used to making their decisions for them. Now
>I'm not saying that's right, but it is what it is, and I'm
>SURE she knew/knows that.

I'm sure she knew too. And that's why she's pushed back.


>Now, for her to go to THAT painful a wound, over Don,
>essentially, just being Don, is absurd, and IMO immature.

No, she had had enough of "Don being Don." She expressed her dissatisfaction with leaving the team at work, and he pooh-poohed it. She wanted pie at Howard Johnson's, and he told her nahh, you gon try the sherbet. There are times when people will allow the person they love to "be them." And then there are times when the same people will say "fuck this shit," and check their loved one on their bullshit.

Last night, harsh or not, was one of those times for Megan. Don was on that bullshit and didn't seem to understand that he was on that bullshit, so she dropped a bomb on his ass.


>She should've just talked to him. Be firm, be assertive and
>express yourself.

And we've seen that the only person who can really do this with Don is Peggy.

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59. "We MOSTLY agree."
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>>As others have expressed he is used to dominating the women
>in
>>his life. He's used to making their decisions for them. Now
>>I'm not saying that's right, but it is what it is, and I'm
>>SURE she knew/knows that.
>
>I'm sure she knew too. And that's why she's pushed back.
>
But she pushed too hard tho.

>>Now, for her to go to THAT painful a wound, over Don,
>>essentially, just being Don, is absurd, and IMO immature.
>
>No, she had had enough of "Don being Don." She expressed her
>dissatisfaction with leaving the team at work, and he
>pooh-poohed it. She wanted pie at Howard Johnson's, and he
>told her nahh, you gon try the sherbet. There are times when
>people will allow the person they love to "be them." And then
>there are times when the same people will say "fuck this
>shit," and check their loved one on their bullshit.
>
You absolutely right, but did she have to go THERE tho?

>Last night, harsh or not, was one of those times for Megan.
>Don was on that bullshit and didn't seem to understand that he
>was on that bullshit, so she dropped a bomb on his ass.
>

That's my whole problem she dropped a bomb on his ass, when rolled up newspaper would have been sufficient.

>>She should've just talked to him. Be firm, be assertive and
>>express yourself.
>
>And we've seen that the only person who can really do this
>with Don is Peggy.
>

So, it can be done - but I wonder why she's the only one to have unlocked the code on that one. :/ At 1st I used to think it was because she unnattractive, but I don't think that's it. They share some kind of kinship, that I STILL haven't quite figured out yet.

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47. ""The woman speaks english...""
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that line cracked me up, especially with the look he was giving while delivering it.

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53. "I don't think Don earned exactly THAT though"
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Yes, Don was being a patronizing and paternalistic prick, and he deserved a large part of Megan's scorn. But I don't think the right response to that was, "Why don't you call your mother, oops, you can't because she's dead and by the way she was a WHORE!" There's some lines you don't cross.

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54. "Agreed but are you saying..."
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that you've never accidentally crossed a line and offended someone you loved in the heat of the moment, ever?

That'd be damn impressive haha. Everyone on the planet has done that once or twice. Considering how young she is, it's really no surprise.

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58. "That shit was NOT accidental..."
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61. "My point was that she immediately felt awful about it..."
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we've all done that. You didn't really answer my question.

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72. "What Question whether I've said dumb shit in an argument?"
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lol, of course. However there are bright shiny red lines I do not cross no matter what.

I've never hit a woman
I've never called a woman a bitch/cunt/ho/slut
I've never hit on my girl's (any girl's) insecurities.

Some lines you have to leave alone.

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75. "Hahaha no doubt."
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I hear you. And I'm much the same. But not everyone is that way. That was my only point.

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77. "did she?"
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he was like, I'ma leave this bitch cause if she keep carrying on, i'm finna mollywhop that ass.

And she was like, "don't drive away when i'm talking to you"

I think it's the most real thing i've ever seen on TV about crossing the line...

I'm still not sure what to make of it, which is why I think the conflicted ended the way it did.

I wonder if Don is going to feel the same way about Megan after this, or rather will the writers just treat this at a pivotal moment in the episode, rather than something of greater import to the relationship.

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81. "RE: did she?"
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>he was like, I'ma leave this bitch cause if she keep carrying
>on, i'm finna mollywhop that ass.
>
>And she was like, "don't drive away when i'm talking to you"
>
>I think it's the most real thing i've ever seen on TV about
>crossing the line...
>
>I'm still not sure what to make of it, which is why I think
>the conflicted ended the way it did.
>
>I wonder if Don is going to feel the same way about Megan
>after this, or rather will the writers just treat this at a
>pivotal moment in the episode, rather than something of
>greater import to the relationship.
>
>one
>k. orr

Yea she absolutely felt bad, at least for a second. Because you saw in her face as he walked out of the restaurant, she said "ok I'm sorry..." or something like that, I think then chased him out screaming "Don!". Then she got pissed again because she saw he was gonna actually leave her ass there.

But literally, the SECOND after she said it and saw his face, there was remorse on her face and she said SOMETHING apologetic, though I don't remember the exact quote. It wasn't until she realized he was gonna ditch her ass that she got mad again.

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95. "^^^"
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>Yea she absolutely felt bad, at least for a second. Because
>you saw in her face as he walked out of the restaurant, she
>said "ok I'm sorry..." or something like that, I think then
>chased him out screaming "Don!". Then she got pissed again
>because she saw he was gonna actually leave her ass there.

>But literally, the SECOND after she said it and saw his face,
>there was remorse on her face and she said SOMETHING
>apologetic, though I don't remember the exact quote. It wasn't
>until she realized he was gonna ditch her ass that she got mad
>again.


After he taunted her by asking her to call her mom "to complain in French" about him, she returned volley with "I'm always talking about you." Then after he says that "the woman speaks English," she hits him with, "Why don't you call YOUR mother?" Don reacts, she reacts, he bounces, she puts her head down (in close up), then there's an awkward cut to a wide shot where she's not looking down anymore and says "Don" as he walks away. As she starts to get up we cut to Don walking outside with her following, and she says "Do not walk away from me" as he approaches his car.

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121. "Yeah there was a QUICK second of remorse"
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but that wouldn't have been enough for me. You fuck up like that, you STOP being mad and START being apologetic. Everyone who's ever been in a relationship knows wht I'm talking about. There are some moments that can turn a disagreement into a fight, and turn the 'victim' into the 'perpetrator' quick fast.

That was one of them, and it didn't seem to register.

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Very specific lines that if I do cross I know there's no turning back. Megan crossed one of those lines.

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55. "RE: I don't think Don earned exactly THAT though"
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>Yes, Don was being a patronizing and paternalistic prick, and
>he deserved a large part of Megan's scorn. But I don't think
>the right response to that was, "Why don't you call your
>mother, oops, you can't because she's dead and by the way she
>was a WHORE!" There's some lines you don't cross.
- Women know how to shoot them daggers when needed. Let us stop acting like they don't, they stockpile an arsenal in their memory-banks for certain occasions, lol.

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96. "At the end of the day, you never drive off on a woman"
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Even if she tells you too.

Granted, my whole life philosophy is that you can't ever really win a fight with a woman regardless. It's served me well but clearly Don and I are from 2 different schools.

So I still side with Megan on this one, even though the line about his mom was beyond foul.

Oh - and just to tie it in with last week's discussion, while we were over here theorizing about who would be the "bad guy" in the relationship, we neglected to mention the most obvious answer: Both of them. Takes 2 to tango.

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120. "even when you win, you lose"
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>Granted, my whole life philosophy is that you can't ever
>really win a fight with a woman regardless. It's served me
>well but clearly Don and I are from 2 different schools.

I don't think it can serve you well, cause you end up ducking conflict.

It's like the battered wife that walks on egg shells to avoid incurring the wrath.

Where is Don in all of this?

He's gotten this far primarily by only thinking about himself, as did all the men that came before him (and certainly most of us that came after..)

Since they work together, Megan's defiance will come up at some point, and Don may have to break her, fire her, or end up like Pete, a man with nothing.

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132. "You married? Ducking conflict is an art"
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And I'm Picasso


>Since they work together, Megan's defiance will come up at
>some point, and Don may have to break her, fire her, or end up
>like Pete, a man with nothing.

Yeah – Surprisingly, I totally forgot about their working relationship during the diner scene. They were just a couple fighting in that moment. Now when he initially pulled her off the project, yeah, I was aware of the dual dynamic. I think the only one who wasn't was Don.

I guess technically they were on a work trip, but it will be interesting to see what happens when this kind of conflict arises at the office.

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123. "Eh, she wanted Dick Whitman, she got Dick Whitman"
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She basically told him, "You might think you're King Shit, but you're still the hick son of a dead whore." So Don did what Dick Whitman learned as a young lad: he followed the Hobo Code and got the fuck out of there.

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52. "they were both wrong"
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Zoobi zoo really wasn't interested in going, but wanted to please her husband so she went....she waa irrittated from jump....Don was being Don and not really thinking of what she would like, but wanted her around to do whatever he liked....it backfired.....

....the fact that he gopt mad and left her out there, thinking she'd be there when she got back is was the final straw


....and the comment about mama whitman was more of a heat of the moment mistake.....

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60. "Megan's a robot. no human gonna eat all that sherbet w/out brain freeze."
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66. "^^^this."
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lol.


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116. "I don't know if I could even continue a convo after stuffing that much"
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33. "this felt like twin peaks or something"
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they did a really good job of making this episode seem like it was a totally different show, but still mad men. and i had no clue until it was patently obvious that we were doing a little flashback there. really interesting episode.

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36. "Wow, I loved each vignette."
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I mean, Roger's was clearly the most awesome. The way he lit the cigarette and it just pulled to the end was so funny and (eww i hate this word) trippy. Jane's line "It's gonna be expensive" was so telling. They were so amicable for like 2 seconds and then Jane remembered that it aint all LSD and flowers. She "earned" hers.

Peggy's segment was also really telling. The girl is teetering on a serious meltdown. The cigarette, the handy in the theatre, the i-dont-give-a-fuck is starting to rise in her.

Don & Megan's portion was great. I loved how in your face the writers were telling the audience "APPRECIATE THAT YOU HAVE FUCKING CELL PHONES!" Don was losing his mind thinking Megan just got coerced into a van and got gangraped and left for dead in a ditch. How could he not think that? Especially with all the allusions this season the murders around the country against women. It was a really sincere moment and I really felt what he was feeling when he was in that HoJo restaurant/parking lot just losing his marbles in fear.

Megan was exceptionally great this episode.

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42. "RE: Wow, I loved each vignette."
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>I mean, Roger's was clearly the most awesome. The way he lit
>the cigarette and it just pulled to the end was so funny

Haha this was one of my favorite parts too. The little sound affect when it happened was perfect too. I'm surprised that little part hasn't been brought up more, I laughed out loud.


>Don & Megan's portion was great. I loved how in your face the
>writers were telling the audience "APPRECIATE THAT YOU HAVE
>FUCKING CELL PHONES!"

Yo - I was thinking this throughout that ENTIRE scene. Seriously.


>Megan was exceptionally great this episode.

Damn right she was. She has been killing it all season.

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67. "RE: Wow, I loved each vignette."
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>>I mean, Roger's was clearly the most awesome. The way he
>lit
>>the cigarette and it just pulled to the end was so funny
>
>Haha this was one of my favorite parts too. The little sound
>affect when it happened was perfect too. I'm surprised that
>little part hasn't been brought up more, I laughed out loud.

i laughed out loud at most of the acid-related things. the whole bottle opening/closing music starting/stopping thing had me dyin.



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68. "Haha yea for sure."
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I was very pleased with how well done that scene was, and that it wasn't a forced, cliche "drug scene".

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69. "as someone who has taken their fair share of acid..."
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i was reeaaally hopin they wouldn't fuck it up.

they did well.

i was happy.


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70. "RE: as someone who has taken their fair share of acid..."
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Haha no doubt. I meant to say, that when the LSD conversation came up between Jane and Roger, I was THOROUGHLY ready to be disappointed. Not that I have any reason not to trust Weiner and the other writers, it's just that I've seen that type of shit fucked up so bad so many times.

So yea ... I hear you. Very pleased. I haven't done acid but I've done shrooms a number of times so I have some basis for comparison and agree that the scene was very well done and seemed natural.

I especially loved how Roger was like "your product bores me Doctor" then proceeds to immediately hear a bottle of booze playing music hahaha.

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71. "lol word..."
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i could watch a whole season of roger giggling on drugs.


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86. "Same here..."
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I loved that they didn't go off on some Hunter S. Thompson escapade and turn into a Charlie and the Chocolate Factory visual feast. They kept it on the subtle, but just edgy enough to pull you in and make you feel like you're there tripping along side them.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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97. "I was wondering about that"
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Never taken it, and after last night's ep I almost feel like I don't have to.

What about their conversation? It seemed so bare and yet so eloquent at the same time. How true was that scene to your experiences?

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103. "very true..."
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that was one of the truer parts really. sure i've seen shit like bathroom tiles stack up on top of each other and ceiling fans turn into army helicopters droppin soldiers out but i've also had some amazing conversations and realizations too. some i'll remember forever. some i forgot all about the next morning.


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110. "fam that was the sence that was the icing on the cake IMO"
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about being true to the acid experience. i remember me and an ex had a very similar conversation near the end of our relationship on some acid. honest, no anger, vulnerable and fully embracing of the others presence. shit was very real.

and i think laying off the visual trip (which can get VERY intense on acid) was true to what Mad Men is

  

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131. "Yeah that scene was very well-played"
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The line that Roger started with, "Frankly Professor Leary I find your product boring" was hilarious and very Roger as he insults the host who was playing Timothy Leary. But the music with the bottle, the cig disappearing and the looking in the mirror episodes were all very true to an acid experience. Perfect song choice too with the usual Mad Men double meaning.

  

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50. "RE: Wow, I loved each vignette."
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>Don & Megan's portion was great. I loved how in your face the
>writers were telling the audience "APPRECIATE THAT YOU HAVE
>FUCKING CELL PHONES!" Don was losing his mind thinking Megan
>just got coerced into a van and got gangraped and left for
>dead in a ditch. How could he not think that? Especially with
>all the allusions this season the murders around the country
>against women. It was a really sincere moment and I really
>felt what he was feeling when he was in that HoJo
>restaurant/parking lot just losing his marbles in fear.
- The way Don kicked down the door and then chased after Megan had me fearing for her. Was Don bout to choke a bitch? He kind of lost it a bit there, happy he reigned his anger in.



>
>Megan was exceptionally great this episode.
- Yup #TeamMegan in full effect.

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82. "i understood Don's anger"
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.....he fucked up, "but you don't get a nigga back like THAT!"- Hov......she coulda really been hurt and he's losin his sanity worrying.....all she had to do was answer the phone and say "fuck you!"...that would have been better than lettin him worry for SIX hours

That said, i'm glad he held it together too

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83. "i dont think megans reaction was unrealistic or unfair"
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you better believe my girlfriend would ignore my calls home if i left her stranded in plattsburgh.

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99. "Like he said, 'it was a fight'"
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Heads get hot, empathy flies out the window and next thing you know you're sleeping in a diner at 2 in the morning. Shit happens, it's hard to apply logic to it after the fact, even as an outside observer.

For me it's not so much about them exhibiting "fair" behavior, but rather believable behavior. And in that regard, I thought the fight was really well executed.

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38. "Nice ep...."
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"Don't give me what I ask for, give me what I want" - heinz guy

Pretty much the theme of the episode.


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63. "it tastes like perfume."
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74. "Meh - gan"
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Wow I am zu-ing when y’all are bisou-ing…

Last night clinched it for me: I don’t like Jessica Pare as an actress. She’s lovely to look at and Megan is a welcome addition to the show and I actually like the new Don Draper but I each time I have to watch her try and keep up with Jon Hamm…ugh. The weird thing is its all this year. Last year I had nary a negative word for her. However this year now that she’s been giving more to do, and not only that but more solidly important stuff, she’s failing at the little things that keep me in. Last week’s “Cynthia!!” was so over the top and poorly delivered it was where I realized what had been nagging me about her. Last night’s brutal hemming and hawing in the office, in the car, and at the table were the nails in the coffin. She had a brief reprieve when she devoured that sherbet, I believed that, but fucked it all up again by can’t-acting her way through that parking lot fight scene (to be fair though the editing on that was piss-poor and all over the place – that’s twice this year).

I’m not seeing what you guys are because she’s been less than impressive since the season premiere, in which she did extremely well.

  

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64. "did i just watch mad men or the movie GO?"
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either way i liked it a whole lot.


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73. "The bottle playing loud classical music when Roger opened it..."
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...was great. In fact, everything about Roger's strange trip was gold. Everyone from the shrinking cigarette, to the shrink crawling on the floor, to the Beach Boys, to the bathtub scene, to the scene of them on the floor was perfectly executed.

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80. "they made it trippy in a realistic way."
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its much more believable than how other shows/films depict drug highs. (not that i would know, never tried hardcore drugs)

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102. "That LSD scene could have been hammy as..."
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But it played out really nicely.

Roger has become one of my least favorite characters on the show, but his story was the only one I enjoyed this episode. I liked it a lot...it was really sweet, even as they decided to separate.

Champion move by Bert at the end. It needed to be said. Don sucks now.

  

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78. "before they went into the parlor, expected a key swap party"
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And whilst the trip, I was expecting Roger to be Roger and fill his base desire with crawling psych.

the biggest celery77 moment was them taking LSD like it was a miracle berry or staring into a stereoscopic picture.

  

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84. "Well, the 1919 series is close to that"
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>And whilst the trip, I was expecting Roger to be Roger and
>fill his base desire with crawling psych.

Because he was likely around 8 or 9. He probably got to go to the Series, and so it's his happiest memory, and the biggest distillation of what his youth was like: he was a passive observer, completely sheltered, and yet there's an undercurrent of corruption.

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106. "lol @ Bert calling out Don for not doing shit"
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107. "Bert fuckin Cooper!"
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the eyes and ears of the entire operation. Still hates shoes.

"Everyone has somewhere to go today!" might be my favorite quote of the episode.

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109. "Hahahah @"
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>and showing up on your money

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111. "one of my favorite moments of the whole EP"
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114. "Yo, he pulled that ngh card so smoove"
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Brought him down to EARF

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122. "As said in other season's posts, dude plays the game..."
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...at an Olympic level. We tend to think of him as a herb because of the pudding, the apple munching, the Ayn Rand worship, and the socks. The other partners don't even take him seriously, cancelling meetings without bothering to tell him. But dude is still a titan in the game. Hell, Cooper breaking down Roger with one sentence was one of last season's highlights. The only dumb thing he ever did was "leaving" the firm after Don's open letter. I never got the point of that.

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130. "i was half expecting to give don the boot"
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i wouldn't be surprised if he did, if he really wanted to.

good ol' bert, making sure the boys know he's keeping tabs on them.

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117. "so very glad i was high off my balls for that."
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damn near spit out my chocolate milk when Roger's cigarette went all surreal on him lol.

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133. "I wish I had an artists rendering of"
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Jesus getting the loaves & fishes account.

Sterling's GOLD.

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134. "the Peggy-faces are in full-effect tonight."
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135. "How's the city? Dirty."
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136. "why isn't Glen wearing a "COLLEGE" sweater?"
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139. "I'm not sure he is in college"
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Been trying to do the math
Is he in boarding school?
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141. "He's gotta be in boarding school"
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Maybe some kind of east coast prep school? Like with him and Ted Bundy?

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143. "that's not what i was implying. he just reminds me of Belushi lol."
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228. "ooooh my bad lol"
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237. "maybe the Belushi thing is subconscious"
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because Sally does refer to Momma Francis as "Bluto"

  

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142. "he's at boarding school."
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i think.

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193. "he's at camp..."
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he said something about being at camp in his conversation...

  

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137. ""One day your little daughter will spread her legs and fly away.""
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quote of the forever

also "How's the city? Dirty." had me dying too.

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138. "poor Sally"
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...she was having a fairly good time till she saw her "uncle" Roger gettin some akrite from her new Grandma......

ep started out slow for me, but got better by the midpoint to finish strong...

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159. "that was just awful"
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for her to see that. her innocence, the little she had...just.gone.now. lol

its good she knows more than one should at her age and didn't tell anyone what happened, but wouldn't most kids say something about what they saw? i can imagine a kid might come running back to the table, cry or be grossed out, or even asking, why was her face by his pee pee?

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197. "most kids would, but she's Sally Draper"
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...the 2nd toughest of all the Drapers (Don's in first)....her childhood has been spotty for a long time now...i like that she's a thinker though, and decided to NOT act on what she saw

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140. "That table scene..."
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I wasn't sure why Megan wasn't happy like Peggy saw

But that got revealed I'm forgetting what her ambitions really were though

Seems to be the episode of parents

Peggy's mom might be right hrm
Megan's dad might be right also
Don at least got his little girl for a bit more

But ha! At Megan's mom who isn't see that coming *ahem*
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144. "http://gif.mocksession.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/SALLY-STERLING-BJ...."
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221. "Shout out to Roger getting his swag back...lol"
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153. "Was anyone else laughing?"
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I'm pretty sure I'm not a sadist but seeing them all slumped over at that table miserable and shell-shocked was hilarious to me.


>I wasn't sure why Megan wasn't happy like Peggy saw

Happy as I was for Megan, that scene with her father reminded us that this gig wasn't her Plan A. Maybe, in experiencing the best feeling that this job has to offer (or however Peggy put it), she found it to be empty instead. Kind of like Sally getting a taste of the adulthood she yearns for – Yeah she got to wear a dress and roll with the grown-ups like she thought she wanted, but it didn't work out too well for her.

And she might also be feeling a little guilt about being the boss's wife. Her idea was solid, but she could have never approached Don with it in the first place had she not been sleeping with him. I love her for having that kind of self-awareness, and given the ideals she grew up with I can't imagine this isn't bugging her, at least a little bit.


>Peggy's mom might be right hrm

Yeah we'll just have to see about that. We haven't really seen any indication that he's a bad dude or doesn't care about her, so I think it's all on the level. And it seems like Peggy got past her own pride and societal expectations, she was cool with it... Either that or she went into one of her weird Peggy trances.

She couldn't get her mom's approval, but Joan blessed the union and her opinion still counts for a lot in Peggy's eyes.


>Megan's dad might be right also
>Don at least got his little girl for a bit more

His little, lying ass, mom hating, step-grandmother attempted murdering girl


>But ha! At Megan's mom who isn't see that coming *ahem*

She was trying to get it in from the moment she showed up onscreen! Sterling played it mad cool with the "let me show you how charming I am without even really approaching you" game. Sterling's Gold might not have sold too well but just wait until he adopts a nom de plume and writes its follow-up, "Pimp: The Story of My Life"

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145. "we have baseball."
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146. "One day she'll spread her legs and fly away! *DEAD*"
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152. "I SCREAMED, but that was MAD disrespectful"
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163. "I think it was a malaprop"
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173. "oh yeah, but it was definitely intentional - not a slip at all."
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147. "so what do yall think Megan's real ambition was? Is she a commie spy?"
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the acting thing doesn't really fly with me. I think her dad was hinting at something more.

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148. "am i the only person who doesn't buy into the secret ulterior"
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motive for megan?

i thought her father was alluding to her dreams to be an actress.

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150. "Well, I think I'm with you but ..."
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>motive for megan?
>
>i thought her father was alluding to her dreams to be an
>actress.

I still think it's SORT OF suspicious that the father never came right out and said "acting."

Other than that, tho, I agree with you.

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156. "I for one am falling back on the Megan suspicions"
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I fucking CRINGED when she walked into Don's office with an *idea*

I have worked with too many boss's wives to know what THAT shit means. So I was like "okay, here we go"

But then her idea was actually decent. Not only that – she displayed the self-awareness to realize this could potentially piss off the other people on the account (people she treats as peers, if not superiors, rather than underlings)

And then, the way her and Don Bonnie-N-Clyde'd that shit at the Heinz dinner? Forget about it. This chick is dooooooooope!

Now, I'm not saying she doesn't have secrets. And I doubt she can be the key to Don's happiness if she's not on that path herself – But I don't see her being the show's villain anytime soon. She's just going through it like everyone else on Mad Men.

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170. "co-sign all of this...she solidified how good they are together in this ..."
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i think it was just acting and her father is a writer so he's not going to have the typical "atleast you have a good job" outlook that most other parents would. he probably loved that she was growing up to be an artist like him and now she's kind of married her way to the top of the corporate world and he just doesnt want her to settle for that and stop striving to build her own life professionally or otherwise.

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161. "niggas just want megan to be scheming"
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cause they've gotten used to the idea of Don being miserable and grimy and megan flies in the face of all that.

thats it.

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169. "It's displaced Betty hate now that she's out of the picture"
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191. "That's DEFINITELY true re: Skylar White"
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192. "Don't even get me started on that shit"
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226. "Skylar and Betty ARE awful though. thats the thing"
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I really don't see what could be unlikeable about Megan.

But Skylar and Betty ooze shittiness.

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264. "you hate Skylar because you hate women"
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Betty you're right the fuck on about
And I don't have a problem with Megan, I just don't like Jessica Pare's performance this year.

  

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149. "she seems legit"
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151. "I think she wants nothing to do with her father, politically or"
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otherwise.

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157. "Loved Don's obliviousness to her father's infidelity"
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Not *even* trying to see it from the wife's perspective

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166. "He LITERALLY couldn't."
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178. ""OH! Yeah.... right.... I guess he shouldn't be calling his mistress""
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*Jews you*

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181. "Becauuuuuuuuse...long distance calls... cost so much?"
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196. "lol on the flip side tho."
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She couldn't see how emotional unavailability could cause a man to see solace elsewhere.

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160. "I don't buy a grand conspiracy"
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But Megan did seem really troubled by what her father said, like there was some real disappointment behind it. That could be that she's her father's "favorite" as she said herself and wants his approval or there could be something she really wanted that she gave up on. I don't think it's acting. And Peggy's statement, intended to be nice, that "this is as good as this job gets" could have played a part in her reaction too.

  

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154. "You know, as foolish as it sounds, the twist caught me flat footed."
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I REALLY expected Don to get some biz outta that award.

lol

His whole face dropped!

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155. "Yo, me too"
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And, you know... Given that this information was provided to us by a suspiciously tan motherfucker at a bar, maybe Don (and we) shouldn't put too much into it.

Buuuuuuuut, yeah. It definitely could be true, and it's a scenario I would've never considered until now. And I guess it kind of needs to be true for the episode to work as well as it does, thematically.

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165. "You know that was Cosgrove's Father-in-law, right?"
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His info may not be good, but I don't think he was trying to shine Don.

BTW, I wish I'd see him more often. I love him in everything I've seen him in so far. Ray Wise is something else.

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167. "They introduced him as such"
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Though I can't remember ever seeing him on the show before. You?

By the way, does anyone else take even greater delight at all of Ken's scenes now that we know about his side gig? I feel like it makes his aloofness that much richer. In my head, he's just constantly thinking up sci-fi stories now.

Like when Don and Megan started going off on eating canned beans on a moon colony, you could just see him taking mental notes like 'damn, I can use that...'

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171. "Yeah, they've never talked about him b4, let alone shown him."
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You'd think they'd have brought it up sooner, considering how connected he is. The 1st thing they did was mine Pete's Father-in-law for business.

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194. "Not true"
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>You'd think they'd have brought it up sooner, considering how
>connected he is. The 1st thing they did was mine Pete's
>Father-in-law for business.

There was an ep last season after they lost Lucky Strike where Don, Roger and Pete called Ken in and asked him to broker something with his father-in-law and he refused saying something like, "This is work, that's my life and I'm not Pete." It was well-played by Cosgrove.

  

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195. "wow, I missed that."
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I have a little more respect for Cosgrove after that.

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199. "now i remember...thanks"
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174. "He was on the episode where they all found out about Lucky Strike"
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Ken was having dinner with them at the beginning.

It's the always great Ray Wise.

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176. "a robot whose sole purpose is to open canned beans..."
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is accidently given a small nuke which he detonates and destroys the entire moon colony. (c)Dave Algoniquin

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208. "every one of his stories ends with a nuke."
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175. "btw why was he there? i missed that and dont recall seeing Ken there..."
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is he a client of theirs or was he just there with Ken?

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222. "RE: btw why was he there? i missed that and dont recall seeing Ken there..."
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he's on the ACS board

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158. "Peggy's mom kind of reminds me of my mom"
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she was raised catholic, doesn't practice anymore, but its still in her... so i can see her having this same mentality of, that shit aint allowed, and i'd rather not know about it. its pretty crazy. I feel bad for Peggy. I know it wasn't that common for a couple to live together unless they were getting married, but the whole Catholicism thing, tends to make her mom seem ultra conservative.

going back to her baby with pete...her mom probably had a lot to do with making her cover it up. its sort of sad...i mean, yes, peggy is definitely an independant, career driven woman, but to have to pretend that kid does not exist? not to have him be a part of her life? does she not wonder or miss her child? btw, what's up with that, is really something we have to forget about too, or do we think Matt Weiner will revisit this part of her life?

excellent episode about values...how they are starting to shift. not only do you see in in Peggy & Abe's relationship, but also the way Joan openly supported her. Which is interesting b/c when peggy got hired at Sterling Cooper and then got all "fat", Joan was NOT nice to her. then there's Megan and Don's relationship. At first I assumed Don would get all the credit for her idea, but he was very supportive and congratulatory of his wife's contribution. It's nice to see their marriage evolve into more of a partnership than just the traditional male/female, wife/husband roles, where the man is the breadwinner, and the wife just has to be quiet, cook and clean, and not to be involved in anything beyond domestic duties.

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162. "that baby was in S1 right?"
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i don't think Weiner will be revisiting that storyline.
NOBODY brings it up. it's kind of a footnote to peggy's character now.

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164. "S1/S2"
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>i don't think Weiner will be revisiting that storyline.
>NOBODY brings it up. it's kind of a footnote to peggy's
>character now.

nobody brings it up because only a handful of people know. Peggy, her sister, Mom, the priest, Pete and Don. Doesn't mean it couldn't come up again.

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168. "I don't expect the priest guy to come back"
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But the baby thing has to. Doesn't it?

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172. "It'll be back."
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188. "thats what i thought nm"
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177. "Oh it's coming back"
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First thing my wife said last night: "I'm surprised Peggy's mom didn't hit her with the ol' 'Oh you wanna shack up with this fool but not take care of your own BABY?!?!!?'"

Peg's sister and mom are taking care of the kid right?

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179. "Agreed."
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And yes I think Mom and sis are taking care of the kid.

Once I saw the mother, the kid was the first thing I thought of. It will come back. Too big an early plot point to ignore forever.

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189. "and its juicy"
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> Too big an early plot point to ignore
>forever.

could give them enough material for atleast 2 episodes.

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190. "Very true."
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202. "NO...a common misconception"
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>Peg's sister and mom are taking care of the kid right?

Peggy's sister was pregnant at the same time as Peggy. That baby they're taking care of is not Peggy's, but her sisters. The show just used it as a way to shove Peggy's sheltered feelings in her face.

I'll have to go back and watch it, because it was apparently poorly done. Allan Sepinwall has to clear this bit of info up on his blog about once every three weeks.

Peggy's baby is gone, she put it up for adoption. I don't think that story is coming back into the forefront again.

  

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203. "this is was i remember too. folks up there had me thinking i was crazy."
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207. "yep. i always forget about the adoption thing."
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234. "I think that's when Don came in and basically told her this is the only"
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Way you'll get what you want out of this life is to give up the child and be cold and start your life from now.

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180. "did anyone else crack up at Pete's bit with Megan's dad?"
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"from what I hear, you're a trailblazer. I bet the world would be a better place if more people knew about the work you're doing."

really? that's very kind....

"THAT is what I do all day."

le gangstre.

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182. "YES! A cool Pete Campbell moment"
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(He's kinda needed one)

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183. "Yep yep yep."
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That was excellent.

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184. "1 of the few times he's actually come across as charming."
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He's so grating sometimes it's hard to see him as this good salesman. But they did it right there.

That was a great moment.

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185. "i laughed harder at Harry finishing Ken's Heinz dinner story."
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YOU WEREN'T EVEN THERE!!!

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186. "Hahaha yea I rewound that part and laughed again."
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Just such a good, random/raw moment of hilarity.

Harry is so awesomely corny.

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187. "That might've actually been my favorite line of the ep"
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That very thought was just starting to form in my head when Ken blurted it out

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198. "RE: That might've actually been my favorite line of the ep"
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>That very thought was just starting to form in my head when
>Ken blurted it out
>
>Everybody hates Harry

the best part is he's a nice guy but does such douchey things that you can't help but NOT like him...he the kind of guy you can appreciate for his strenghts, but not wanna hang with EVER...

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227. "yes!"
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finally someone who was more annoying than Pete
and Pete served it
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200. "mini-gripe but the actress playing Megan's mom could barely speak French"
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kinda hate it when TV gets lazy and does that (same issue with Danielle Rousseau on Lost). Also French-Canadian is not at all the same thing as French.
At least Jessica Paré has the right accent, since she's from there, but I could barely hear it in the dad's, and let's not mention the mom. And while I'm on my high horse I might as well mention the fact that people from Montreal usually have no accent at all when they speak English, though it might have been different in the 60s.
Nothing major, but for a show that usually gets the details right, this was a little jarring to me.

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201. "I thought maybe the dude was French and migrated..."
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But yeah the mother...

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204. "i figured her pops immigrated"
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interesting point about the mom tho

  

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205. "you just complained about Julia Ormond?"
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This show is killing it for me with mid 90s beauties in supporting roles. This is my wheel house. First Embeth Davidtz, then a brief glimpse of Madchen Amick, and now Julia Ormond playing the skin flute?

All we need now is Nina Szciemasko and it will have come full circle.

  

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206. "ahhh I did think she looked familiar"
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still hatin on the accent tho

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235. "She was really gettin the neck into it there"
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Hitting it home to Sally as to what was goin on. Hope this doesnt screw her up.....sure it will.

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209. "What's with these corproate big-wigs' fixation on the space?"
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And more particularly, the moon?

The mom and son combo on the moon is what really sold the Heinz guy on the account. Hilton turned down Don's initial phenomenal pitch because "you promised me the moon!" That imagery is ridiculous and maudlin. Is Weiner saying the space race was THAT big a deal back then?

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210. "I thought "You promised me the moon!" = Connie Hilton"
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I think everyone was nuts for the space program and the moon back then though.

  

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212. "They're all huge fans of Dave Algonquin's work"
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214. "lol. you didn't know?"
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its like what 1968? 69?
everybody was pretty space crazy at that point

  

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216. "early 60s. it's pretty much in the middle of the space race."
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so i'm not surprised at the references to the moon

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218. "i think its mid-60's at this point"
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1965 maybe

  

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220. "It's the Fall of '66 by now"
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However, they've rarely made any references to the space race on this show. It seems like this season in particular has been tying in real life events (Richard Speck, Charles Whitman, the UK winning the World Cup), you'd think they'd at least allude to it in some way beyond this.

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223. "has not heard JFK's moon speach"
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and doesn't realize that it really was THAT BIG of a deal. It was one of the many issues in which Commie/Socialist Russia and Capitalist/Democratic USA battled for prestige on the global stage of the 60s

  

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236. "I'm well aware of the speech. But there was no reference to it"
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or the space race in the entire series, like, at all. And Weiner is someone who's pretty on the nose about the influences that are effecting the characters in this series.

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215. "Why are cats getting so caught up on Megan"
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its clear that this whole thing is just a pit-stop for her
just about every character up until this point was defined by what they did for a living except her.

which was kind of interesting after hearing what her father had to say to her at dinner and then her reaction to Peggy's awkward congratulatory speil.

everybody seemed to be working to increase their potential in their lot
but Megan seems to be working on her potential in life in general

  

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217. "Zoobie zoobie zoo"
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224. "^^^"
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225. "Ken isnt"
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>its clear that this whole thing is just a pit-stop for her
>just about every character up until this point was defined by
>what they did for a living except her.
>

he makes it a point that people knows its just a job to him and not his life.

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229. "David Algonquin is though."
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he's cooking up a story in which Megan's Zou Bisou Bisou will deter an alien attack a la Macross. however, Megan's mom gives fellatio to an alien, whose species' orgasms are equivalent to nuclear bombs, and destroy Earth in the process.

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230. "I'm stealing all of these ideas, btw"
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I'm trying to get a meeting with either Mike Bay or Peter Berg to pitch these shits

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232. "can you imagine Michael Bay's Macross Plus?"
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shit would be perfect. lol

  

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233. "lol"
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231. "I loved that episode. The whole banquet scene was great"
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Sally's face at the table after walking in on Roger was priceless.

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238. "Pete, you're such a bastard"
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I love it.

So Megan's dirty Communist secret is she was secretly a (communist) actress the whole time who never really loved advertising. Beginning of the end, or is this still a New Don Draper?

HO FUCK, Mr Belding got big. I don't think I've seen him since S1 of Always Sunny, but wow.

Great stuff from Don and Peggy at Cool Whip's (non-smoking? What is this Red China?) lab.

Harry Crane, we need more of you. Forever. A 10-pack of White Castle for all.

Oh it's hard to get the rights to a Beatles song UNLESS YOU'RE MONEY MATT WEINER. Boom.

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239. "RE: Pete, you're such a bastard"
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>So Megan's dirty Communist secret is she was secretly a
>(communist) actress the whole time who never really loved
>advertising. Beginning of the end, or is this still a New Don
>Draper?

Were there other nods to her being a Commie other than her father? I may have missed something. It's possible and I see it, but I didn't see a smoking gun.

>Great stuff from Don and Peggy at Cool Whip's (non-smoking?
>What is this Red China?) lab.

They both fucked up, though. Don trying to pass it off on Peggy. He was stiff as a board.

>Oh it's hard to get the rights to a Beatles song UNLESS YOU'RE
>MONEY MATT WEINER. Boom.

Seriously. I was thinking that too. Beatles rights have to be spendy.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

*Effasig*

  

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240. "No, but the whole "Megan's got ulterior motives" thing"
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>
>>So Megan's dirty Communist secret is she was secretly a
>>(communist) actress the whole time who never really loved
>>advertising. Beginning of the end, or is this still a New
>Don
>>Draper?
>
>Were there other nods to her being a Commie other than her
>father? I may have missed something. It's possible and I see
>it, but I didn't see a smoking gun.

I knew there was something, but some people went farther into it. It's just the same stuff we knew about her.

>>Great stuff from Don and Peggy at Cool Whip's (non-smoking?
>>What is this Red China?) lab.
>
>They both fucked up, though. Don trying to pass it off on
>Peggy. He was stiff as a board.

Indeed they did. Peggy flubbed her lines, and Don expected someone who was given no time to prepare to be as ready as he was.

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241. "Did you also catch..."
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Roger seeming to be more relaxed now? Note how he handled the scenario with Pete and the new client. He almost brushed it off like it was nothing and without the bitter sarcasm he usually sports. Roger's like "fuck it, I'm just gonna roll with this now."

Pete's steez is going to backfire on him. Weiner's repeatedly said that their lifestyles will come back on them. I'm expecting something fairly tragic for ol' Pete.

I wonder if The Beatles album resonated with Don or if he did truly end the song at the point. The album looked over from where he lifted the needle off, so I wonder if it sank in or maybe if he just thought it silly kid's music.

I had to fire up Revolver in iTunes. Good thing I have the whole catalogue. So amazing.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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242. "Oh yeah, the LSD has made him different"
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>Roger seeming to be more relaxed now? Note how he handled the
>scenario with Pete and the new client. He almost brushed it
>off like it was nothing and without the bitter sarcasm he
>usually sports. Roger's like "fuck it, I'm just gonna roll
>with this now."
>
>Pete's steez is going to backfire on him. Weiner's repeatedly
>said that their lifestyles will come back on them. I'm
>expecting something fairly tragic for ol' Pete.

Four or five episodes ago, he couldn't have tolerated Pete. Now he seems to realize it doesn't really matter, he's going to ride this out.

>I wonder if The Beatles album resonated with Don or if he did
>truly end the song at the point. The album looked over from
>where he lifted the needle off, so I wonder if it sank in or
>maybe if he just thought it silly kid's music.
>
>I had to fire up Revolver in iTunes. Good thing I have the
>whole catalogue. So amazing.

I think he ultimately dismissed it. He's just of a different generation, grateful for indoor plumbing. He's not going to get the Beatles.

And yes, this does make me want to listen to Revolver front to back, which I probably haven't listened to in over a decade.

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381. "Don had no patience for that crappy song"
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I got a chuckle out of that, as I hate the hippie-era Beatles.

  

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246. "daaaaaaaaaamn that IS mr belding"
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that shit was nagging at me the whole scene.

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284. "He ate his brother Rob"
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Possibly Inga too

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254. "oh c'mon, there's a thousand bands that sound like them."
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>Oh it's hard to get the rights to a Beatles song UNLESS YOU'RE
>MONEY MATT WEINER. Boom.

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243. "Peggy does not give a fuck"
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Whwn she told Don to shut up, I lost it

  

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247. "i was like :O"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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269. "It just reinforced for me that she's the only one who can pull that off."
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Don and her have a special relationship. She really is the closest thing to a 'work -wife' he has.

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286. "That's the fight he should have had with Megan"
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As relaxed and vulnerable Don's been this season, it still seems like Peg is the only character he can truly be himself around

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244. "pete is on some other other shit"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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283. "He was on some Trapped in the Closet shit this week"
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Messy, messy, messy

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245. "Pete will commit suicide"
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The elevator shaft + insurance policy convo = second grade foreshadowing

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249. "Someone get the rifle out of his office"
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255. "the elevator shaft was Don, not Pete"
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so if that happened to Pete, it would be an accident, cause he doesn't know about it.

*Jews you*

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256. "i know -- but i think it was a foreboding sign of something to come"
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the viewer is now aware of the shaft. it's going to come into play somehow.

or maybe its the gaping void left in don's heart after his wife left the office. god knows with weiner and his heavy handed symbolism.

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260. "such as"
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> god knows with weiner and his heavy
>handed symbolism.


What are some other examples?

  

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261. "OMG THE TIMEZ R CHANGING!!!!!!"
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It's not enough that Don is portrayed as slowly losing touch with an ever-evolving society... Nope, we need to literally watch him cut a Beatles record short so he can retire to bed at 9pm. That's as heavy-handed as it gets.


Still a great show, no doubt. There's also a lot of shit that flies right over my head I'm sure.

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263. "having him start w/'Tomorrow Never Knows' was a bit much."
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i think he'd have been able to sit through 'Got To Get You Into My Life' or even 'Eleanor Rigby'.

lol

fuck you.

  

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280. "Meghan did tell him explicitly to start with that song though"
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Don't know if that makes it more or less heavy-handed. I thought it worked out fine on screen regardless.

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288. ""We know what The Beatles sound like""
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I was kinda surprised when I saw her handing him what looked to be Revolver – I'm constantly forgetting what year it's supposed to be, and don't really have my Beatles trivia down like that. So when the episode began using Hard Day's Night as a cultural touchstone, I assumed that was the current Beatles 'sound'

It's easy to laugh at Don complaining about how fast the culture is moving, sitting from where we're at now... But goddamn, that was a hell of a shift that happened in a 2 year span. Of course those dudes are out of touch.

Megan isn't, though, and I think that was the main point of them using that song. Not so much that Don's getting old, but that these people are in 2 totally different places in their lives right now. She tried dancing to his dusty grooves for a little while and didn't like it. Now it's her turn to DJ.

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295. "At least it wasn't 'For No One'"
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302. "don't you dare say a negative word about that song"
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her day breaks...
her mind aches...

  

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303. "I just meant the heavyhanded/bum-out factor"
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Song's great, you just don't want wifey dropping the needle on that mf'er on her way out the door

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308. "oh! hahahahaha didnt even think of that"
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Yeah that would have fucked his head up, especially after the couple of days he's had.




...she doesn't need you....

  

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309. "And for added effect, the record would keep skipping on this part"
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>...she doesn't need you....

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270. "I saw that as the bottom falling out of his relationship."
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To me, that signalled the return of The Don Draper.

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287. "How you just gonna go back to your office and not mention it to anybody"
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That shit right there was like something out of LOST

Put a note up or something, damn!

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297. "lol"
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298. "lol i thought the same thing."
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304. "What if that means the guy falling in the show's intro"
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Is everyone who works at SCDP *except* for Don

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248. "Yo, Peggy is still my favorite character up in this piece"
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She smokes j's, swills liquor like it's water, gives out hand jobs, and tells her boss to shut up without fear of repercussion

I love her

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251. "IT'S STABBING ME IN THE HEART!"
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the rookie Ginsberg is climbing up the favorite character charts faster than a Beatles record.

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252. "Did he fire you THAT-SON-OF-A-BITCH!"
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271. "That was cute! He's steadily growing on me...."
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293. "ready to go war for his teammate even if it's w/his Golden God, Don."
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that's folks right there.

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291. "anyone else think that was ad-libbed?"
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with don asking him "why are you cussing?"

or was that just to show again the generational differences, what with all the casual swearing kids do these days?

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292. "i really hope it was."
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250. "Sorry if I missed it, but where's Lane?"
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n/m

  

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253. "boxers usually take a vacay after a prize fight."
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he wasn't in this episode. he probably took some leave after the fight /Joan kiss. he needs to walk back in the office with the SCDP Middleweight Championship Belt though.

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257. "^^^ Got this answer directly from Matt Weiner"
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259. "lmao."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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272. "lol"
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281. "With 50 and Bieber in his entourage"
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267. "filming Sherlock 2"
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258. "who is this new don draper?"
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so easy going and mellow? oh that's great wife, do whatever your heart desires! you were so awesome here at the firm, but you want to throw it away? no problem!!

i wonder how much longer don will tolerate this "change". megan was totally better for the pitch (shit was just awkward and bad when he played it out with peggy.)
don was home alone afterwork. i hope he doesn't cheat.

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262. "that was the old don draper"
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>so easy going and mellow? oh that's great wife, do whatever
>your heart desires! you were so awesome here at the firm, but
>you want to throw it away? no problem!!
>

passive aggressive like a motherfucker.

and it all blew up between him and Peggy cause he was pissed and didn't have anyone to take it out on.

expect Don to make some crack about "who makes the money/I do real work" in the next few episodes. It's just the kinda damaged prick he is.

  

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268. "i think its only a matter of time."
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>expect Don to make some crack about "who makes the money/I do
>real work" in the next few episodes. It's just the kinda
>damaged prick he is.

I also wonder if Megan will have any success with the acting. it could make or break their relationship.

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273. "The scene in the office w/Roger shows he's wrestling w/it."
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But ultimately, I think the honeymoon is over. Now the Don is back in the 'Pappy' role, he'll continue his old schtick.

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285. "Yeah, dude's trying"
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He's seen what can happen when women get resentful, but I dunno if he's gonna cope well with his own resentments as time goes on. Dude is gonna be busting his ass all day long to pay for those night classes that TEACH HER HOW TO LAY DOWN

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265. "Ken's dancing to the client's suggested song"
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2nd whitest moment ever on Mad Men

  

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266. "haha i saw that."
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274. "Campbell carrying those skis out Rogers office"
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"...and I got to see that." - Roger

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275. "Crane walking up on Campbell in the phone booth"
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"What? You opened the door."

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278. "great scene"
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in fact all of the interactions between the two were great

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282. "I wanna see these 2 pull a bank heist"
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276. "Damn, they paid $250k to get the rights to that song?"
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http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2012/05/07/how-much-mad-men-paid-for-the-beatles/

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277. "I was certainly curious."
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Thanks.

  

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279. "thats it?! I wouldve expected at least a milli n/m"
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289. "No way they'd ever use 'A Milli' on this show are you crazy"
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290. "haha"
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294. "i could see Megan pulling off a rendition of 'Lollipop'."
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296. "So Breaking Bad had to die so that Mad Men could go nuts on soundtracks"
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(has anyone made this claim yet?)

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301. "?? what does that claim mean?"
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305. "i have no idea. but i wanna know too."
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306. "Remember the big fuss about Mad Men eating up everyone else's budget?"
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This was about a year ago.

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299. "Megan: Start with this song. Don: *puts on LAST SONG ON THE ALBUM*"
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I died.

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300. "Hadn't even heard it yet and already thought the sequencing was garbage"
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Prototypical Okayplayer

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307. "PIZZA HOOUUSE!!"
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310. "Can't shake this weird suspicion that Roger's dying this season"
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He's always been a fan favorite I think, but they seem to be going extra hard in terms of making him stand out this season. But they're doing so in a way that it seems he's beginning to resolve a lot of his inner conflicts. Walking away from his failed marriage, coming to terms with his age and role at SCDP... Not to mention a lot of that imagery in his acid trip, at least one heart attack mention, the Tibetan Book of the Dead references this season – Even though it's been used in more of a Timothy Leary context – It feels like someone major is gonna die this season and he seems like a frontrunner to me.

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311. "You know, I was about to make this post"
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Actually, I was coming in here to make a "Okay, who dies at the end of the season?" post, and then pick Roger as the front-runner.

Everything is pointing to some tragedy at the end of the season. Talk of death has permeated every episode. Mass-murderers and serial killers in the news, close calls with cancer, guns, empty elevator shafts, talk of car accidents, talk of insurance policies that will still cover you even in the event of suicide, etc.

It's seem like the conventional wisdom would be that Pete is going to kill himself out of misery, but I agree that it will be Roger. He's finally comfortable with himself and where he is in his life and his role with the company, so naturally he has to die.

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313. "Yep yep yep."
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The elevator shaft in the last episode being the most recent obvious sign of imminent tragedy.

I'd hate to see Rog go. He is by far my favorite character.
But, yep. I've been saying this since season 2. Agreed.

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312. "Agree. And for the record I called this 3 seasons ago..."
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Back when people were talking about how Weiner had said "don't ignore the falling man in the intro," I literally sat there and dissected the intro...and came to the conclusion that Roger is the one falling. Like I said this was 3 seasons ago, and everyone was just assuming it was Draper. I said that it couldn't be, juts based on the silhouettes, the guy sitting on the couch at the end of the intro was clearly Draper. I had no evidence other than that haha.

So then this season started, and obviously the beginning was heavy on Roger unhappiness stuff and I thought "yep here we go." Now obviously they're laying the depression card heavy on Campbell, but I still never relented.

So long story short --- I agree, and have agreed for some time, that Roger is going to end it, and he is the guy in the intro falling. I dunno if it'll necessarily be this season, but like I said I've thought this for a long time. And your breakdown is very on point.

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314. "how much Gold could he spit before hitting the bottom of elevator shaft?"
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i ain't gonna lie, i'ma tear up a little if he bites the dust.

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341. "but roger's a main character."
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i just don't see him going that soon. not this season. i could be in for a surprise. but yeah. this is just a low point in his life, it could go back up.

we could say the same about pete. the guy is lost and unhappy, in his own way. roger's at a desperate point but since he's still the boss, he has the upper hand.

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315. "Shame on Betty for using Sally as a pawn piece against Don yo..."
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Your stank ass read a letter and then you get upset? Go smash it out with Henry real quick. Jealous of Megan cause she's young and fit ain't gonna change anything.

This should be Betty's theme song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6ebutx-Fww

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316. ""...and MURDER--you're not going to dinner" "has to be cheap--SURPRISE.""
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YES. i was hoping for some Ginberg's Silver and Sterling's Gold together.

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320. "Dead @ "Stop talking.""
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317. "Sally needed an ass whoopin', and Betts and Ginsburg caught Ls"
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It's unfortunate that Sally got caught in the middle of Betty's attempts to shit on Don's situation, but her mouth should have been at least popped one good time

And Ginsburg's L was on-par with the type Pete usually catches

Don's "I don't think about you at all" line was ETHEROUS, I think I'ma start using it on the boards

And it's interesting that Pete, Ginsburg, and Megan all had the stars in their eyes, to some degree... Megan was funny style, with her dismissal of the part ol' girl was auditioning for (a role on Dark Shadows, btw, which was the title of the episode)...

I loved that Peggy is taking aim at her superiors, last week with Don and Roger this week... and she was dead-on about Roger, that dude was straight wrong for smashing Jane in her new spot (though I don't blame him) even after she said that living in the old one just reminded her of him...

This might be considered one of those episodes where "nothing happened" but I'm inclined to disagree and thought it was solid...

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321. "The "I don't think about you at all" crushed that kid's soul"
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Don might have been slimy with it, but Ginsberg needed to learn some impulse control.

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326. "Don got his work-swagger back this ep."
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I didn't think it was a great one, but Draper seemed to be reinvigorated in the office this episode.

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331. "It absolutely was"
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>Don's "I don't think about you at all" line was ETHEROUS

Most Draper-ish thing I've seen all season

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332. "That kid got Drapered"
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Bottom line = even if your idea was better "Well, I'm glad you work for me." Dead...

  

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334. "Pete had that gleam Ralphie had dreaming about his Red Ryder BB Rifle."
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345. "RE: Sally needed an ass whoopin', and Betts and Ginsburg caught Ls"
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>It's unfortunate that Sally got caught in the middle of
>Betty's attempts to shit on Don's situation, but her mouth
>should have been at least popped one good time
>
>And Ginsburg's L was on-par with the type Pete usually
>catches
>
>Don's "I don't think about you at all" line was ETHEROUS, I
>think I'ma start using it on the boards


It was an etherous line, but I get the feeling this might be similar to the cigarette ad. Donn getting a short term win, but not seeing the whole picture. He got this on ginsburg, but the kid is good and his pitch was better.



>
>This might be considered one of those episodes where "nothing
>happened" but I'm inclined to disagree and thought it was
>solid...
>

I feel like this is the episode we'll look back on after the season ends it'll resonate more.




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350. "yeah if Don was on his game he'd go with Ginsburg's pitch..."
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but he needed an ego boost and played him out. not sure if it'll come back to haunt him but it goes against everything he claims to stand for. Dude is all about the work and the sale, he should've gone with the better pitch. he pulled a Campbell type move on this one. i don't consider that to be Don Draper swagger at all...especially after seeing the look on his face as he walked away from Ginsburg.

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318. "gotdamn, i was praying for that Gilmore Girl tiddy to pop out."
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333. "BOOBS WITH THE FUR (WITH THE FURRRRRRRRRRRR)"
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348. "http://www.pictureshack.us/images/36989_Alexis3.gif"
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349. "THANK U BASED INTERNET!"
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356. "This . . . this is so beautiful"
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322. "holy shit that is her"
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all grown up... mmhmm

  

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338. "MAN, I was trying HARD to MAKE that titty pop out."
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on some Prof X shit.

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351. "i convinced myself that it did and i saw it...you can't tell me differen..."
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339. "maybe the dvd will have the unedited version"
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they were pretty much almost out.

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323. ""mom aren't you gunna say what you're thankful for?""
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"Leave her alone Bobby. She's hungry."

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324. "lol for a split sec it looked like betty took it as an insult too"
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but assumed it was just a throwaway kids comment from sally

  

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336. "RE: "mom aren't you gunna say what you're thankful for?""
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>"Leave her alone Bobby. She's hungry."
>
>COLD BLOODED... Sally like her pops
- Sally been lighting Betty up with that slick ether all this season. Hilarious.

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340. "i have a love/hate feeling about sally"
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i feel for her sometimes, she's going through a lot and seems lonely.

but when she says shit like that? its pretty obnoxious and rude. yeah, your mom is fat, but you don't go disrespecting her like that. she is long overdue for some major disciplining. don too--he needs to be harder on her.

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342. "RE: i have a love/hate feeling about sally"
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>i feel for her sometimes, she's going through a lot and seems
>lonely.
>
>but when she says shit like that? its pretty obnoxious and
>rude. yeah, your mom is fat, but you don't go disrespecting
>her like that. she is long overdue for some major
>disciplining. don too--he needs to be harder on her.
NOPE, Betty is a twat and deserves it. She's been mentally abusing them for years. Sally is tired of her bullshit.

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343. "let's not blame just the mother here."
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>NOPE, Betty is a twat and deserves it. She's been mentally
>abusing them for years. Sally is tired of her bullshit.

don hasn't exactly been much of a father, he wasn't around much while they were together. the don we know now is more mature and responsible, but back in his betty days? not. at. all. and i don't entirely blame betty for wanting out. she definitely had bigger underlying issues, but they were both trying to keep up a false image, and his absence, sending her to a therapist, expecting her to look and behave a certain way--did not help.

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347. "Yea they're both at fault to a large extent."
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I blame Betty more just because her abuse is direct and scathing. Don's mistreatment of his children is his consistent absence (which like you said, isn't really an issue anymore). Betty is a mental terrorist to those kids, which has and will be way more damaging IMO.

But yea ... Don ain't free of blame here. Remember that birthday party in season 1 or 2 when he just disappeared, never came back with the cake and got drunk somewhere?

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352. "but i wonder if don had sole or primary custody"
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would he be as direct and scathing too? or would he just ignore her and let her feel unloved and invisible? i kind of want to see him spend more time with his kids and see how good of a dad he is or could be.

i still think betty gets too much of the blame. its justified now that they are seperated, but before that, ppl act like she was a single mom. well it certainly seemed that way with don being gone all the time.

>But yea ... Don ain't free of blame here. Remember that
>birthday party in season 1 or 2 when he just disappeared,
>never came back with the cake and got drunk somewhere?

oh yes i remember. lol. that was bad.

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344. "this"
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353. "act like it wasn't true though...Betty was hungry as hell haha"
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i would never had said that at that age. or even now, for that matter.

sally is funny tho, she does not hold back.

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325. "first time i've seen jon hamm and not don draper in 5 seasons"
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at that bit where he confronts sally about anne in his pj's he's had such a strong command of the role that i've never confused the real with the fake.

  

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328. "RE: Huh?"
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as in the scene where he spoke to sally about anne i felt jon hamm broke character and responded less how im used to him as don draper (the character) and more like the person jon hamm (as i've recognised him in interviews etc.

  

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329. "Ohhh ok ok..."
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I got you now. I didn't notice it the first time around but I'll check for that when I watch it again.

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330. "You saw Megan's calming influence on him."
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335. "I hate Betty."
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I know 50 years ago there wasn't much she could do for her issues, that don't stop me from hating her. People who use their kids as weapons against people should be shot. Ugh. Sally is learning to see the world through the eyes of two very fucked up people. The 70's are gonna be adventures in co-parenting for Don and Betty behind this shit.

Roger has...no real conscience, so it seems. At least he's comfortable in his scumbaggedness.

Don, you think about Ginsberg A LOT.
It was on your face when you were looking over the ads going to the times.
It was on your face when he marveled at your ability to hit a jumper after sitting on the couch for months.

Was the line cold blooded, sure as fuck it was. But it reeked of insecurity and pettiness. It's amazing how Don tells Peggy Megan thought they were all "cynical and petty." Mf'er it's YOUR agency, where do you think they get their cues?

  

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337. "Banner:Hulk::Home-Don:Work-Don"
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>Don, you think about Ginsberg A LOT.
>It was on your face when you were looking over the ads going
>to the times.
>It was on your face when he marveled at your ability to hit a
>jumper after sitting on the couch for months.

Ginsberg is obviously an ad-genius. Don needs to be careful here. he needs to walk the line of keeping Ginsberg at the agency while not letting him take his job lol.

>Was the line cold blooded, sure as fuck it was. But it reeked
>of insecurity and pettiness. It's amazing how Don tells Peggy
>Megan thought they were all "cynical and petty." Mf'er it's
>YOUR agency, where do you think they get their cues?

along with Bert's "get back to work" scolding earlier, it's hard to blame Don for doing what he did and saying what he said when it's the SCDP way. it was definitely over the line, but Don was in a desperate place.

if he really is back, the conflict with Don is separating Work-Don with Home-Don now that Megan drew the line - it's almost like David Banner and The Hulk. he's getting back in the zone at work, and he was able to stay calm while reaching for the phone to call Betty with Megan by his side, but you get the feeling that World-War-Hulk/Work-Don will eventually awaken at home and drive Megan away.

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354. "Ginsberg could never do Don's job..."
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he lacks the soft skills but he's a threat to Don cause Don is used to being the genius of the pack and he's scared that he's gonna lose that spot. it's kinda sad actually cause one thing that never wavered was his confidence in his work and now he's scared of a young talent who is obviously brilliant at coming up with ads and copy but isn't in any way gunning for the Creative Director spot Don is holding down.

him not being the most creative in creative doesn't threaten his job security but it's a crush to his ego. i hope he doesn't make a habit of sabotaging Ginsburg because of his own insecurities...that'd be lame.

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355. "All very well said..."
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It's like Don is longing for the days when HE was the most creative guy in the room (before he became a partner) when really he should be appreciating the fact that he's a creative director for a reason and like you said, Ginsberg could NEVER take that position from him.

But like you said his ego takes over and instead of being happy with what he's got (which is just about everything), he's still gotta prove that he's the best at everything, which obviously is a major theme of this entire show.

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366. "it was never a theme of Don's though...which is why its so weird"
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he had his other issues and demons but insecurity about his work was never one of them. its weird seeing him like this...almost as painful as him being down and out after leaving Betty.

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it's been a lot of things about Don this season that have been different. Peggy even said it in the 2nd or 3rd episode.

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363. "you're right, i didn't think that through, but..."
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367. "true indeed"
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346. "Sterling Campbell Draper Price - Roger"
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LOL

Next scene bert cooper is pitching a client to roger and sking to leave out don and pete.


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358. "between Zoobie Zoo changing and the Gilmore Girl in the fur."
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...the gibsons were looking RIGHT this ep.....

...i agree that Sally shouldn't have gotten away with everything she was saying, but the last line to her mom was well deserved...Sally's gonna grow up and love/hate both her parents....

...i like that megan and don actually talk shit out, instead of just fighting and making up....the scene with him bout to call Betty was extremely well done....

.....Roger's an asshole with some great quotables.....i hate that he ruined that for Jane after she helped him....

....Don's last line to Ginsu woulda been cold if we didn't aready see that Don basically spent most of the episode either admire the guys work or outdo him....it was a really petty thing that worked in Don's favor....,,,it's funny that he's fine if Peggy is his star wide reciever, but Gins somehow is a whole nother story....

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359. "Don's line was like a boxer smiling after taking one on the chin"
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and shaking his head like "that's the best you got?"... meanwhile his ears are ringing

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360. "Hahaha - solid analogy."
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>never let 'em see you sweat, dick

No doubt.

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365. "In the context of that scene, however, it was cold blooded"
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>....Don's last line to Ginsu woulda been cold if we didn't
>aready see that Don basically spent most of the episode either
>admire the guys work or outdo him....it was a really petty
>thing that worked in Don's favor....,,,it's funny that he's
>fine if Peggy is his star wide reciever, but Gins somehow is a
>whole nother story....


People steady trying to cop pleas and spin it like it wasn't a big deal, or that Don really was catching an L because he spent the rest of the episode glaring lovingly at Ginsburg's artwork that he was fitna steal and blah blah blah

The bottom line is, in THAT PARTICULAR SCENE, Ginsburg got sonned

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369. "oh Don hurt him, for sure"
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we saw it on ginsbergs face

but it still reeked of insecurity. especially since we all know he was lying

  

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370. "Are we sure he's lying tho?"
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I mean, prior to the part of this episode when Don was looking at all his work, Don really never DID think about him...at all..

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371. "That's also my point"
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I mean, one could argue that he's on Don's radar, especially during the scene where Don pitches his idea and Ginsburg damns him with faint praise, saying something like his idea was "actually good," which made Don retort with "I'm glad I could surprise you"

But to me, even that is more of a, "I got my eye on you, you smarmy little shit" than a "I got my eye on you cause my ideas aren't as good as yours" type deal

But I don't think his dismissal of Ginsburg in the elevator was Don showing insecurity at all; I mean, he was quick to tell Ginsburg that they made the sale with his pitch, which is why they're there... I know it's surface level, but I just didn't see anything to clue me in to Don saying that line defensively... doesn't mean I couldn't be wrong, though... certainly wouldn't be the first or last time...

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372. "Right yea - I see what you're saying..."
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I still think Don showed a LITTLE insecurity in this episode but I can certainly see how you could come to your conclusion, too. Especially since, like the other poster said, Don has NEVER been insecure at work.

But I do think he likes putting lil Ginzy in his place. Evidenced by the first pitch he made where he went off on that tangent and Don basically said "assume everything I'm saying ends with "or else" (which was hilarious.

So --- yea. He's on Don's radar, I don't think he's terrified of him but it's clear that he's good and Don is starting to take more notice, at least as of this last episode.

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377. "to me, Don's been more off his game than ever this season"
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he hasn't had complete breakdowns and gone into dick whitman panic mode like we've seen before, but with him being so in love with megan and getting older, his killer instinct has weaned.

his feeling threatened by a young up and comer like ginsberg is more about himself than ginsy. he's not wrong to pull rank on the kid for throwing rocks at the throne, but don recognizes talent. "i don't think about you at all", might have worked last week, but everything that went down in this ep deads that

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393. "Yeah, that's the thing- WORK hasn't been on Don's radar"
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So I don't think he was lying to Ginsberg necessarily... Exaggerating, sure. But Don hasn't really been focused enough on work to fuel any type of rivalry with anybody. Which has played into his professional slippage a bit.

My read on the whole situation was that Don actually felt inspired by Ginsberg's sketches and it got him in creative mode after a long dry spell. I don't think Don was thinking about outdoing Ginsberg's ideas, I think he just remembered how fun/rewarding that part of his job used to be (partially because his home life was a train wreck, which could soon turn out to be the case for him once again). And naturally, once he did eventually come up with something it would be the greatest idea in the universe because that's how Don's ego is wired.

I think in 99% of Don's heart he felt that he was leaving the weaker pitch in the car... But obviously there was an element of insecurity to it all.

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373. "he is...."
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again, he KEW this kid had a great idea, and did everything he could to get his own idea sold instead if Ginsu's....the kid was on his mind if only a bit, pushing him to be more creative....

i think in the beginning, Don wanted to create a great idea for this product himself, he saw that ginsu had this really great idea, and the tought of that pushed Don to try and make a BETTER idea...was it actually better?, for the product and the market, compared to ginsu's idea?? no....but that's just IMHO....don out hustled ginsu cause he could, and i'm not mad at that, but frontin like he didn't thinks of ginsu at all when again he spent the whole ep trying to outdo his idea is silly....

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375. "Yup! plus he puposely left Ginsburgs shit in the cab"
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and we saw Don's face before he did it. he knew it was the better idea, and didn't want to risk the clients going with it over his own

  

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376. "Except he didn't "spend the episode trying to outdo his idea""
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- Don came up with the Devil idea BEFORE Ginsu pitched his... an idea that he said was "not bad"

- After he pitched it is when Ginsu hit him with the "that was actually good." THAT's the moment Ginsu hit his snark radar

- When both ideas were presented later to the group everyone but Crane liked the snowball idea

Granted, he left Ginsu's idea in the cab then later said that that he went with what he thought would work and also that he didn't like going into meetings with two ideas. But let's not act like the entire episode was Don sweating over Ginsburg's ideas. He wasn't, and his dismissal of Ginsburg in the elevator, and everything after it, gave no indication that he was thinking about him or feeling insecure.

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378. "^denial"
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>- Don came up with the Devil idea BEFORE Ginsu pitched his...
>an idea that he said was "not bad"

AFTER he lowkey looked at ginsu's idea

>- After he pitched it is when Ginsu hit him with the "that was
>actually good." THAT's the moment Ginsu hit his snark radar

that's the moment don went from impressed to slightly threatened

the beginning of his pitch made no sense. something about how everyone thinks of hell when they think of snowballs, that everyone gave a polite "um..ok " nod to... they all liked it once they heard the rest, but not as much as ginsbergs

peggy was the real loser in that meet, though

>- When both ideas were presented later to the group everyone
>but Crane liked the snowball idea

don looked even more insecure here

>Granted, he left Ginsu's idea in the cab then later said that
>that he went with what he thought would work and also that he
>didn't like going into meetings with two ideas.

you don't believe don on that too, do you?

But let's not
>act like the entire episode was Don sweating over Ginsburg's
>ideas. He wasn't, and his dismissal of Ginsburg in the
>elevator, and everything after it, gave no indication that he
>was thinking about him or feeling insecure.

^denial!

  

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379. "Okay, player."
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380. "HA!"
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totally agree....

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361. "I feel bad for finding humor in Betty's struggle with weight and"
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overeating, especially since I have family members who are dealing with the affliction. Still, I can't help but laugh during nearly every scene that focuses on it.

  

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413. "ngga that affliction is called wont get off the couch.."
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362. "I call BULL and SHIT on feeling bad for Jane"
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She’s “making a fresh start” in a place she had Roger buy for her, and will be living that "fresh start" on his dime. You can call me bitter, because I am, but I’m glad he poisoned that place for her. All the death talk is pointing somewhere and I could see Jane being the sacrificial lamb, perhaps in a suicide off that balcony with that fantastic view.


Roger’s “It’s every man for himself” seemed like the theme of the episode as every single person, or storyline, centered either on people jockeying for personal gain & glory deriving pleasure and/or distress from someone else’s distress and/or pleasure.

Betty the Sociopath reiterates the theme during Thanksgiving dinner when she announces she’s thankful for everything she has…and that no one else has anything better. Jesus D. Jesus, that is one sad assed worldview to announce to your family.

Ginsberg was really feeling himself this episode wasn’t he? Quite a monster they’ve developed. I was surprised he picked up on what Roger was talking about so succinctly. He’s definitely one to watch out for as he’s got the talent, the brains, and the moxie to back it all up. Can someone enlighten me on the poem he was quoting (Dante?) and why Stan said he should read the rest?

What’s the consensus on the reaction, by creative, to Don’s pitch? Was it genuine or was it a feeling that we have to like what the boss has brought out, especially since he doesn’t do much of this anymore? I had a feeling it was the latter, especially Ginzo.

I would have liked to see a Cooper reaction shot to both Pete’s failure and Roger’s (apparent) success. That being said, I REALLY liked this episode and I felt like it was the best since the one where Lane decked Pete. It started slow but once all the pieces were in place it really hit on all cylinders.

Legitimate laugh out loud moments, Roger with the Jewish stuff especially:

“I had to see you. The way they talked about you in the NEW YORK TIMES SUNDAY EDITION…” hah! – Pete’s fantasies involve his name in the paper and his women referencing them.

“And muuuurrderrr….”
“Stop talking”

“How Jewish are they?, Fiddler on the Roof: audience or cast?” AAAAHHAHAHAHA

“You see Michael, when one man hates another man very much….”

I know there was a post re: coming episode trailers and how misleading they are but I’ll be glad to see Lane again. I’m calling this shot: Lane’s mystery girl from the premiere episode comes back into play and somehow Lane gets involved with her goombah boyfriend and gets extorted or took for dough.

  

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364. "Every Man for Himself is another one of the season's themes (EDIT)"
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according to Matthew Weiner

Also,

The poem is Ozymandias by Percy Bysshe Shelley. According to the Cliffs Notes on it:

"The central theme of "Ozymandias" is the inevitable complete decline of all leaders, and of the empires they build, however mighty in their own time....

The rulers of the world, 'ye Mighty,' are told by Ozymandias, 'king of kings,' to look upon his works and despair of emulating them. Now one looks and sees nothing whatsoever.... The works that were to be the despair of other pharaohs have completely disappeared. Even the gigantic statue of himself that he had commissioned has been reduced to two legs, a shattered face, and a pedestal."


So, yes, Ginsburg misquoted an ironic poem about the empty results of peacocking in an attempt to peacock about his own shit...

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374. "Yo, I got a nerd woody, reading this response."
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No homo - I hope.

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382. "Kinsey Krishna? Harry Krishna?"
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Like most prize fighters, the homey Lane is Bankrupt.

  

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385. "i'm forgetting how..how?!"
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dude better go to LA
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383. "Harry Crane needs a wacky spinoff"
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I swear I could watch this dude be an awkwardly successful fuck up for hours on end.

Good for Megan for not taking this dumb shit from Don.

I dug Lane's scheming, and I'm wondering how this won't blow up in his face. Perhaps he can challenge the Prime Minister to some bareknuckle fisticuffs over the mater of his taxes?

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384. "RE: Harry Crane needs a wacky spinoff"
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>I swear I could watch this dude be an awkwardly successful
>fuck up for hours on end.
>
his misadventures are ALWAYS a good watch

>Good for Megan for not taking this dumb shit from Don.
>
yup, Don was wrong....

>I dug Lane's scheming, and I'm wondering how this won't blow
>up in his face. Perhaps he can challenge the Prime Minister to
>some bareknuckle fisticuffs over the mater of his taxes?
>
me too...this CAN'T end well...every move he made seemd like the wrong one...

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388. "Loved the image of him forging Don's signature"
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389. "^^^"
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Forging the signature of a fake man

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417. "It was a fantastic moment"
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>Forging the signature of a fake man



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386. "any one else imagining Joan and Don together?"
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387. "i did..and i think they did too for a min..."
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.....they'd actually make the kind of couple Don really wants to be, but they both have enough respect for each other and their respective household to keep things from going too far...

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390. "I hope it doesn't happen but we may be heading toward it"
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i thought maybe he was just teasing us
like this could...but we all know it would be a bad idea...
right?
...hello?

they wouldn't...would they?
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395. "i did but i don't want it to actually happen."
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i like both characters, but not TOGETHER.

don said he was afraid of her. i think there'd be a power struggle in that relationship.

i also don't want to see them together because I really like Megan.

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398. "hell to the yes"
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>i like both characters, but not TOGETHER.
>
>don said he was afraid of her. i think there'd be a power
>struggle in that relationship.
>
>i also don't want to see them together because I really like
>Megan.

i dont like megan that much
what i like about megan i love about Joan
i think Don does too
he likes flirting with the strong women archetypes
but actually being with them?
like he said
afraid

but yeah i love the idea of it
would also make for great tv
but id hate to hate either of them for what they would inevitably do to each other

there can be only one - highlander
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402. "but see joan's a bitch."
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i mean that both in a good/bad way. she's the type of woman who is nice to men and not women, and if a woman crosses her, or if she feels threatened, the claws come out. she comes across insecure that way, and it kind of stinks.

which is why i like megan more, she's sweet, thoughtful, intelligent, and she uses her power when it matters most. not over petty, catty bullshit.

joan and roger should be together. of course they won't be, atleast for a long time. i know matthew weiner loves to surprise us, so i don't see the storyline playing out. she did throw a nice jab at him about her being 'stuck' with their baby and he gets to move on.

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391. "I love the fact that Kinsey wrote a fucking Star Trek spec"
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I also love that he was, in essence, keeping up appearances, and that it turned out that his girl was doing the same

And I'd like to up the Harry Crane spinoff pitch by pitching a spinoff featuring Crane, Cosgrove, and Kinsey, all out in L.A.

Crane's wife dies, Ken's wants a divorce because he's spending too much time writing that sci-fi bullshit, and Kinsey's already there -- but he's joined the Black Panther Party

And Crane and Cosgrove could move out there and move in with Kinsey, and we could see Cosgrove and Kinsey writing sci-fi shit, trying to come up with the next big sci-fi concept. Start it in 1968, and with them having their minds blown by 2001... we'd just watch them smoke a lot of pot and pitch on ideas all day...

In fact, it could turn out that they were the ones who came up with this idea about a young space fighter named Luke Starkiller, aka Luke Skywalker...

Meanwhile, we'd watch Kinsey bumble and fumble his way around the brothers while trying to get at the sistas, all in the name of revolution

TELL ME YOU WOULDN'T WATCH THAT SHIT

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396. "the star trek/roddenberry reference was awesome"
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399. "YES"
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401. "I WOULD WATCH THIS SHIT"
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In fact, I'm currently working on a spec script for this spec TV spin-off in which Crane, Algonquin and Kinsey all break into Philip K Dick's house and blow his safe.

And by the way, how great was it that Crane was actually popping visions his first time Krishna-ing. The Golden Child has returned, unfortunately he's a swinging TV ad executive.

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407. "^^^ Hired"
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414. "Naw, we need a spinoff with Crane, Kinsey and Cosgrove"
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moving to LA and starting a private detective agency.

Kinsey could smoke a pipe and stroke his beard and look real pensive, while Ken/Ben/Dave Cosgrove/Hargrove/Algonquin is a master of disguise gathering intel, and Crane just keeps somehow lucking into solving all the cases by being stoned and hungry in the right White Castle at the right time.

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434. "PLEASE CAN WE HAVE ROGER CAMEOS???"
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443. "Done nm"
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409. "i mean"
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426. "It's pronoucned Neg-Ron! But they're white!"
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And yes, I'd so incredibly watch that series.

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400. "la la lakshimi"
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that byotch is crazy
if she wanted to scare the shit outta harry, why'd she let him smash? she should've tied him up or rode on top.

i looooved the way megan put don in his place. YOU ARE GOING TO SIT HERE AND EAT DINNER WITH ME. wow. you.go.girl. i really like megan.

Guys, do you think she was outta line or justified?

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403. "neither"
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>Guys, do you think she was outta line or justified?

shit just happens

  

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404. "so that means her response was right"
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it was definitely a misunderstanding caused by don's lack of communication and consideration.

however i will say that i can see this won't be the last lonely night for megan. she may long for the days she was working for SCDP.

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444. "no, it just means it was what it was"
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if you wanted it to be right it was right.
if you wanted it to be wrong it was wrong.
one of those "eye of the beholder" things.

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408. "Look at you"
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>if she wanted to scare the shit outta harry, why'd she let him
>smash? she should've tied him up or rode on top.

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410. "i can't be the only one who DOESNT think she put Don"
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in his place

it took at more as Don continuing his plotting. the joan convo, the tipsy driving, followed by that speech he gave at the end, IMO, is Don slowing getting over his "times are a changing pathos" and back to his imma grab this "bitch" by the horns again. i just felt he was smirking at Megan's anger

  

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425. "it could go either way @ this point"
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it will be interesting to see what happens next

i can tell don thinks the whole acting/campy plays stuff is trivial to him. not sure i see him forcing megan to give up on acting but i think he'll steer her in a more indirect, subtle way.

the fact that he didn't try to seduce joan shows he's not the same man in he was a year or two ago. i'm sure he thought about it, but he showed restraint. its amazing how far he's come. i hope its not temporary.

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445. "I don't think he ever would seduce Joan"
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Joan isn't easily swayed plus they both know she was Roger's steady sidepiece and I can imagine that Roger no matter how much he plays the field would not be happy with that possible set-up.
Flirting is about as far as this will go or at least I hope so. The only way I can see this popping off is if Joan pushes for it against because of the history with Roger. I don't see Don purposely exploding diarrhea where he eats.
I can totally see a one time "we got caught up in the moment" type deals but nothing long-term.

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411. "yo can some one please explain"
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her reasoning behind fucking him as a way to black mail him? i was thoroughly confused?

and we all aint just gunna pretend Kahlema just ain't write this

>that byotch is crazy
>if she wanted to scare the shit outta harry, why'd she let him
>smash? she should've tied him up or rode on top.

  

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412. "she's a wingnut. harry pointed out how she was hustlin backwards"
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"but you already gave it away"

>and we all aint just gunna pretend Kahlema just ain't write
>this
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>>that byotch is crazy
>>if she wanted to scare the shit outta harry, why'd she let
>him
>>smash? she should've tied him up or rode on top.

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416. "i thought she fucked Crane to expose his disloyalty to Kinsey."
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but then she talked me away from that and i was left confused.

fuck you.

  

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418. "Ditto"
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Dude better go to la
She's stupid and crazy and has hitched her horse to dude

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424. "would've been the closest "logical" reason for fucking him"
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but like you said, nah. plus even if she tried to hold it against him, what proof does she have? i mean she seems capable of anything but i don't think she collected "evidence"

she probably wanted to fuck, maybe her religion didn't allow her to do that.

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446. "nah didn't you see her face when she said that?!"
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She was dead serious, she really believed that she fucked Crane for Kinsey's benefit (but really for the movement's benefit)

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421. "it seemed over the top to me but she knows who she married..."
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so i guess she wasn't all the way wrong for jumping to conclusions.

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405. "Christmas Waltz...more like Christmas Schmaltz"
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That was a not good episode, probably the worst one of the series IMO. I can't recall any other episode of Mad Men so utterly missing the mark at just about every step. An almost total misfire from a show with a fantastic track record.

The whole episode was overly obtuse, overly vague in character motivations and especially in dialogue. Harry & Paul's interactions got better as the episode went on but the interaction with Joan & Don was horrible. Thos eare suppose dot be memorable scenes, much like Season 3s hospital scene between them, but that bar scene was so cryptic it lost its meaning. Maybe its juts me but I needed to see Joan surprised a litt at how her day was progressing. A lot of potential with a Don & Joanie outing, however the "whelm-o-meter" was solidly stuck at "Under".

Nobody gave Pete kudos for Jaguar coming to him therefore he feels unhappy and underappreciated. We’ve seen him sink to some pretty low depths this year, in word and in action, and there is nothing whatsoever gained by repeatedly showing him mildly annoyed at the fact nooone around him really likes him. This is abuse of a horse corpse on a grand scale, either shit or get off the pot with that storyline.

In the worst scene of an episode with a lot of bad ones, Don got his swagger back. All it took from the previous 50 minutes was: a reminder that he used to not feel this way, his ability to buy a shit-hot Jaguar on impulse, and his gorgeous wife being by his side no matter what. Hoo. Ray. As bad as Don could get in seasons 1-4 I always rooted for him. Nowadays, not so much. I don’t root against him, but so far this season there’s not a thing they’ve done to invest me in him getting back to being DON DRAPER.

Now I will grant you that I had already decided that I hated the episode by the time it got to it but…Ugh that last scene was awful. Apparently Don sucks so bad now, and is such an embarrassment to the entire world, that Pete is openly dismayed that he wants to speak to his own firm. So much so that he has to ask him aloud. Peggy does that clichéd “last one to start clapping head nod acknowledgement” thing telegraphing to us “He’s back!!!” Really nobody understood Lane? Really? Aside from a social outcast schlub born in a concentration camp, a graduate of Miss Dever’s school for professional women, a black (who is also a woman black), and a white trash farm boy who has commited criminal fraud and perhaps treason, I’m pretty sure everyone in that room has at least some college experience. They stared at him like he shouted “mishy mushy giishy gooshy monkey motherfucker” at them and then farted. I understand the point was to further Lane’s uncomfort but, again, the mark was sorely missed here.

Christ sake I can’t believe I’m going to say this…do I miss Betty? Does the show? A year ago I was adamant the show didn’t need ANY more Don/Bettyness. But now, towards the end of what is, for me, easily the worst season…no. I refuse to accept it even for consideration.




EDITED TO ADD: Has this show always been so bad with the fade outs?

  

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406. "I disagree with pretty much everything you just said..."
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Haha - nothing personal of course, but I thought the episode was fantastic.

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415. "I agree"
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I'll also add, I felt the tantrums by both Joan and Megan were horribly acted. Megan's was so out of the blue for me, I half expected her to bust out a "haha...gotcha!"

I'm over the Don and Joan tease. They do it because it always gets a rise out of people with the 'imagine if they were together' scenarios. Looking through this post, I see it worked.

The Hare Krishna Movement started in the 60s, right? Might as well shoehorn it into the show. The Crane/Kinsey story was a little too silly for me. But I guess that's Harry's purpose on the show now.

Did we know Lane was struggling financially? I honestly can't remember. This also seemed out of the blue to me. He hasn't been highly visible in the last couple of episodes, and now he's back 'borrowing' money from the company. The shot of him forging the signature did look nice though.

Yeah, didn't like this episode, and not enjoying the season much. I'll still watch every week, but it's starting to enter Entourage territory for me. Not in terms of quality, but the fact that I'm watching it just because...

  

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419. "I'm pretty sure this was more than strongly hinted at previously"
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>Did we know Lane was struggling financially? I honestly can't
>remember. This also seemed out of the blue to me. He hasn't
>been highly visible in the last couple of episodes, and now
>he's back 'borrowing' money from the company. The shot of him
>forging the signature did look nice though.

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420. "Also, the Krishna stuff wasn't just "shoehorned" in just because"
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And I say that not because it was "set up" or previously established (it wasn't), but because it involved the person who you'd just know would be involved in it, and that was Kinsey.

Dude has always seemed a little too precious, a little too eager to be in on the "in" thing, and since this was an "in" thing at that time, it makes perfect sense that he would be into it.

And it's actually not all that surprising that he wouldn't be as dedicated to it as he should be, he's always been a follower, so this fit his character to a T.

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423. "^^^^ right."
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427. "We've got almost zero explanation of Lane's financial problems"
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If I’m forgetting something please fill me in.

We got, in the season premiere which was like 10 episodes ago, a few brief discussions about his kid's school asking why they haven't got their tuition yet and Lane seeming stressed. That’s about it since then. Lane hasn’t even been in the show for the past month and now within the opening 5 minutes he’s in such bad tax shape, never brought up before, he takes out a line of credit for the firm to cover it. No personal loan for a man who is a partner at a Manhattan ad firm? Then he embezzles from the company to cover it? Okay fine it’s a drama so the characters have to take dramatic steps but…why? We, unfortunately, don’t get enough Lane time to understand why he’s going this far with it. A brief mention a while ago that hinted at money troubles doesn’t do enough. It doesn’t do enough to justify a character known to give Scrooge McDuck a run for his penny pinching money now engaging in fraud and embezzlement.

Too much vaguery this entire episode, motivations and dialogue were both unclear and unenjoyable.
Lakshmi’s purpose in having Crane fuck her was, as I saw it, blackmail. You tell him, I tell your wife. But that doesn’t quit work does it?
Don & Joan’s boring scene together was one liner after one liner and I know they were really talking about themselves but what were they even trying to say?
Why can’t Harry tell Paul to fuck off?
Harry & Paul in the cab didn’t make sense, Joan all of a sudden loathing Roger didn’t make sense, and mostly Lane’s entire plot didn’t make sense

Paul Kinsey has always been a hack and the one with the least talent who affected the most superior air. Peggy runs through a list of firms he failed at on his way down to managing a grocery store or gas station. All of a sudden Harry has a problem with telling him his script is no good? They heaped shit on each other for years and Harry “You’re such a Jew” Crane has never had a problem calling them like he saw them. So far this season we’ve had scene after scene of him being the most unlikeable character not named Elisabeth Hofstadt Draper Francis: shitting on his family, his wife, gorging on sliders, hitting on children, gross tales of fucking his boss’s wife, and all around general doucheyness; however now in this episode he needs to save his friend from the evils of Mother Lakshmi. OH! And the worst “on the nose” bit of Sunday night was Mother Lakshmi’s true motivation for hanging with Paul, “He’s our best recruiter (beat) I mean he really can sell”. HAYYYOOOOHHH!!!

I will admit my favorite part was Harry’s chant face, how into it he was, when we came back after commercial break.


Okay so question time you guys:
Everyone enjoyed, or at least were satisfied, with that last scene?
Don’s “Once more into the breach…” speech was justified and you understood where it came from?
There were no missteps with: Pete? Don & Joan? Lane’s actions? Don & Megan?
Everyone enjoys this season on a par with the previous?

  

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428. "RE: We've got almost zero explanation of Lane's financial problems"
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>We got, in the season premiere which was like 10 episodes ago,
>a few brief discussions about his kid's school asking why they
>haven't got their tuition yet and Lane seeming stressed.
>That’s about it since then. Lane hasn’t even been in the show
>for the past month and now within the opening 5 minutes he’s
>in such bad tax shape, never brought up before, he takes out a
>line of credit for the firm to cover it. No personal loan for
>a man who is a partner at a Manhattan ad firm? Then he
>embezzles from the company to cover it? Okay fine it’s a drama
>so the characters have to take dramatic steps but…why? We,
>unfortunately, don’t get enough Lane time to understand why
>he’s going this far with it. A brief mention a while ago that
>hinted at money troubles doesn’t do enough. It doesn’t do
>enough to justify a character known to give Scrooge McDuck a
>run for his penny pinching money now engaging in fraud and
>embezzlement.
>

It's been made clear on multiple occasions that Lane has issues with asking for help, something that's presumably amplified by his self-doubt regarding his value to the company and the way he was emasculated by Pete "I'm an insufferable bitch" Campbell. Lane may have won the actual fist fight, but he was still laughed at for his inability to close the Jaguar account and openly called a queer. Asking for eight grand isn't the best way to say "I'm a competent accountant!"

>
>Paul Kinsey has always been a hack and the one with the least
>talent who affected the most superior air. Peggy runs through
>a list of firms he failed at on his way down to managing a
>grocery store or gas station. All of a sudden Harry has a
>problem with telling him his script is no good? They heaped
>shit on each other for years and Harry “You’re such a Jew”
>Crane has never had a problem calling them like he saw them.

There may have been some altruism in Harry's decision to help Paul, but it's just as likely that Lakshmi's attempt at manipulating him (and Paul) triggered Harry's desire to fuck her over instead. Harry's not the most creative individual, as noted by his inability to really pull off the smoke-and-mirrors, so he just shoves money in Paul's face and hopes that Paul makes the "right" decision.

>Don’s “Once more into the breach…” speech was justified and
>you understood where it came from?
>There were no missteps with: Pete? Don & Joan? Lane’s actions?
>Don & Megan?

I agree that the speech and the Don & Megan stuff were a bit flat this episode, especially since Don's relationship woes aren't getting any more interesting 5 seasons in.

  

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429. "RE: We've got almost zero explanation of Lane's financial problems"
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>
>It's been made clear on multiple occasions that Lane has
>issues with asking for help,

Hmm. I know he's British and usually reserved but I am missing what you're referring to.

something that's presumably
>amplified by his self-doubt regarding his value to the company
>and the way he was emasculated by Pete "I'm an insufferable
>bitch" Campbell. Lane may have won the actual fist fight, but
>he was still laughed at for his inability to close the Jaguar
>account and openly called a queer. Asking for eight grand
>isn't the best way to say "I'm a competent accountant!"

Really? You think that's it? I know he feels like he's entirely replaceable at SCDP but I never got the feeling that he thinks people think he's bad at his job, just irrelevant. But then again, my real gripe is that we actually don't have concrete proof, that we have to guess at the motivations for his drastic actions.




>
>There may have been some altruism in Harry's decision to help
>Paul, but it's just as likely that Lakshmi's attempt at
>manipulating him (and Paul) triggered Harry's desire to fuck
>her over instead.

Again, maybe. But again, again, the writing was so vague it could be any reason he did something out of charcater.


Harry's not the most creative individual, as
>noted by his inability to really pull off the
>smoke-and-mirrors, so he just shoves money in Paul's face and
>hopes that Paul makes the "right" decision.

Good call on this. Harry has always asked others for help and even decisions.


  

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430. "really? you don't see the problem here?"
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>I know he feels like he's
>entirely replaceable at SCDP but I never got the feeling that
>he thinks people think he's bad at his job, just irrelevant.

the guy who everyone in a struggling start up company has trusted to handle their books can't handle his own finances? someone who you already pointed out feels he's seen as somewhat useless? i mean guys like Roger, and Bert, and Pete don't even understand financial struggle. Pete obviously has personal reasons to use this against him. his only bet was to ask Don for a personal loan, and we never know if you're gonna get empathetic Don, or dickish executive Don

i thought they did a decent enough job of establishing Lane's financial stress for a while. If he needs to stall his wife over something as simple as tuition, it's safe to assume things were pretty bad for him

also, I don't remember the circumstances where he became a partner. did he just dump everything he had into it? if so, he hasn't seen much return yet

  

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432. "wait a menudo there compadre"
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>the guy who everyone in a struggling start up company has
>trusted to handle their books can't handle his own finances?

Yes that's a problem. But what do we know? We know he's being taxed by his home land as well as here and he's gotta come up with it, and that the Brits tax exorbitantly for the ultra wealthy, so much so the Beatles wrote a song about it. That's all we truly, definitively know about the situation.


>someone who you already pointed out feels he's seen as
>somewhat useless? i mean guys like Roger, and Bert, and Pete
>don't even understand financial struggle. Pete obviously has
>personal reasons to use this against him. his only bet was to
>ask Don for a personal loan

He couldn't have gone to a bank for a personal loan? A partner, albeit junior, at a smallish Manhattan ad agency can't get a loan? I don't buy that.



>i thought they did a decent enough job of establishing Lane's
>financial stress for a while.

Disagree. As I said they hinted at it at best. All we saw, in week one, was him struggle to explain to his wife why the son's tuition wasn't paid on time. Remember this was the same episode in which he had a fantasy dalliance with a girl from a wallet. The school tuition could have been mere distraction and boredom.

If he needs to stall his wife
>over something as simple as tuition, it's safe to assume
>things were pretty bad for him


But see this IS the problem. In season 3 Lane was known for his fiscal conservatism. So much so that he was the axeman they sent around the world to tighten ships (to horribly mutilate metaphors). Its what he did and what he was lauded for by everyone from St. John Smythe to Don D himself. Season 4 showed us nothign diffrenet. Premiere of season 5 his wife asks about calls from school. This episode he's so racked with money woes he first lies to his company's bank for a 50K line of credit (fraud) then forges a check to himself (embezzlement & fraud & loitering & rape). I call shenanigans.


>also, I don't remember the circumstances where he became a
>partner. did he just dump everything he had into it? if so, he
>hasn't seen much return yet

Not sure what you mean.

  

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436. "i'm pretty sure they touch on the tuition more than once"
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(possibly even last season, but i could be wrong) and it was made clear enough he was stalling her because he didn't have the funds

>He couldn't have gone to a bank for a personal loan? A
>partner, albeit junior, at a smallish Manhattan ad agency
>can't get a loan? I don't buy that.

he's not even a citizen. it's not like he has collateral to put up. a bank is gonna break him off 8k (quite a bit back then)just because he has a title?

>But see this IS the problem. In season 3 Lane was known for
>his fiscal conservatism. So much so that he was the axeman
>they sent around the world to tighten ships (to horribly
>mutilate metaphors). Its what he did and what he was lauded
>for by everyone from St. John Smythe to Don D himself. Season
>4 showed us nothign diffrenet. Premiere of season 5 his wife
>asks about calls from school. This episode he's so racked with
>money woes he first lies to his company's bank for a 50K line
>of credit (fraud) then forges a check to himself (embezzlement
>& fraud & loitering & rape). I call shenanigans.

*shrug* debt issues have a way of coming to a head that way. handling someone elses finances doesn't necessarily translate to being good at your own.

>>also, I don't remember the circumstances where he became a
>>partner. did he just dump everything he had into it? if so,
>he
>>hasn't seen much return yet
>
>Not sure what you mean.

just saying i dont remember what lane initially contributed to SDCP financially

this wasn't my favorite episode either, but i just don't see anything in it as much of a stretch

  

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440. "RE: i'm pretty sure they touch on the tuition more than once"
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>
>he's not even a citizen. it's not like he has collateral to
>put up. a bank is gonna break him off 8k (quite a bit back
>then)just because he has a title?

hahahaha you mean banks don't work that way? I see it like this:
Lane: "Hey Mr. Bank man I'm a partner at a smallish ad agency..."

Mr. Bank Man: "Catch motherfucker!"

**starts throwing large bags with $ printed on them at Lane**



>
>*shrug* debt issues have a way of coming to a head that way.
>handling someone elses finances doesn't necessarily translate
>to being good at your own.

I guess but I think we have ample evidence that he's never, even now, been anything but good at HIS job. At HIS job he's respected and revered. He thinks he's expendable, Joan knows she could do what he does, but he's still good at it. People in this post are mixing up the feelings toward Lane Pryce, Potential Accounts Manager and the feelings towards Lane Pryce, Penny Pincher extraordinaire.


>
>>>also, I don't remember the circumstances where he became a
>>>partner. did he just dump everything he had into it? if so,
>>he
>>>hasn't seen much return yet
>>
>>Not sure what you mean.
>
>just saying i dont remember what lane initially contributed to
>SDCP financially

Yeah I don't remember either.


>this wasn't my favorite episode either, but i just don't see
>anything in it as much of a stretch
>


S'cool, we just disagree. I'm in like the .0001% with my dislike of this episode. Internet reviewers goign apeshit for the Don & Joan Marvel Team Up which I felt was so utterly boring. Can you really tell me what they were talking about in the bar?

  

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450. "Brand new Jaguar $6000, Baby Lane's tuition $8000"
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431. "RE: We've got almost zero explanation of Lane's financial problems"
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>Really? You think that's it? I know he feels like he's
>entirely replaceable at SCDP but I never got the feeling that
>he thinks people think he's bad at his job, just irrelevant.
>But then again, my real gripe is that we actually don't have
>concrete proof, that we have to guess at the motivations for
>his drastic actions.

He did say it himself, when in the office with Joan after the fight with Campbell "what is it I do here? YOU could do it."

He doesn't think anybody respects him or sees any worth in his presence and it's eating away at him...hence the willingness to roll his sleeves up and square off on Pete in the middle of a partner's meeting.

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433. "sorry if I was confuing there"
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I meant the motivations for drastic actions of Snday night, NOT the fight

  

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437. "Guy...he's essentially the CFO."
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>Really? You think that's it? I know he feels like he's
>entirely replaceable at SCDP but I never got the feeling that
>he thinks people think he's bad at his job, just irrelevant.
>But then again, my real gripe is that we actually don't have
>concrete proof, that we have to guess at the motivations for
>his drastic actions.

You're telling me that you really don't understand how embarrassing it would be for the financial chief of a fledgling Mad Ave ad firm to ask for an 8 grand loan to pay off a damn tax debt? Especially when he's already widely considered expendable, it's a running joke in the office, and he knows it?

This is actually one of the main things I LOVE about Mad Men. Sure they didn't spoon feed us his financial troubles all season long. I actually give CREDIT to the writers for not spoon feeding every storyline to the audience like just about every other show ever. It's one of the more endearing things about the entire Mad Men series. You need to pay attention and take note of every little nuance.


>Again, maybe. But again, again, the writing was so vague it
>could be any reason he did something out of charcater.

Just like in every previous season, I predict that it will become completely clear by season's end. This has happened several times before on this show. Some things lack clarity until you have watched every episode.

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438. "Please it is not that bad"
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Everyone below expresses a variation of the opinion that Lane's motives are fuzzy (and that its a detriment to quality), that he acted extremely out of character, and a few bring up going to Don or Bert or even Roger for the dough. Alan Sepinwall's opinion, from him, about this show, is like a diss track. And while I only clipped out pieces of a handful of reviews I looked through about a dozen; NOT ONE OF THEM had any variation at all of the notion that him going to a partner for a personal loan is a horrible idea.


Also, there's a difference between needing to be spoon fed storylines and the show being too obtuse for its own good.





http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/bastard-machine/mad-men-Don-Joan-Harry-Paul-Krishna-ep-327353

The other issue is Lane and his back taxes and the resulting issue of embezzling money from SCDP. We’ve had Lane’s financial woes peeking at us ever-so-briefly in a few episodes, and now it’s gone full scale. It’s not entirely believable that Lane would be this stupid, especially in the ill-advised passing off of the loan as found money. I hardly think the inherent skepticism of Don or Bert Cooper would let that pass without some kind of questioning along the lines of, “How the hell did $50,000 just turn up?” They would be more likely to blurt that out than some hurray for a Christmas miracle we’re being asked to swallow. Would Lane not ask Roger for a loan given that Roger seems to be the richest man in New York right now? Are we to assume that his stiff-upper-lip British pride is going to get in the way of his financial accountability? This stretch is a close second to, say, Ginsberg being from Mars.
So I think this storyline is suspect, unless it eventually leads to the downfall of the company, and even then -- hmmm. Maybe Lane's indiscretions will be a gigantic issue until Pete really nails Jaguar and saves the company, thus getting all the affirmation he so desperately needs. (And along those lines, isn’t it getting a little old how much of an atta-boy Pete needs? I’m not sure he’d be whining about it endlessly like this.)

And with Lane's dubious troubles comes a question of merit: Why is Lane here again? His storylines appear to be diversions, even when they're quite good. Maybe what has been missing during the past couple of seasons is a Lane-centric arc that better explains him.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maureen-ryan/mad-men-recap-christmas-waltz_b_1531945.html

1. The episode really reminded me of an old-school "Mad Men" episode in that a lot of it centered around a Very Big Secret that could blow up in an ad man's face. Chekhov's gun, meet Chekhov's check! Lane Pryce did a very bad thing: He lied to get the company's banker to extend the firm's credit, then forged Don Draper's name (a name with enough identity issues attached to it already) on a check in order to pay off a tax debt (at least that's my understanding of the issue).

The buildup around Lane's secret check gave the episode some welcome tension and momentum, but I am struggling a bit -- scratch that, a lot -- with the idea that Lane would do this sort of thing. We know that he's something of a risk-taker: He came over to the U.S., he helped found the breakaway firm SCDP, he had an affair with an African-American woman and he even kissed the mighty Joan. So we know he's not fully buttoned-down all the time; but he's always been a stickler for procedure at the firm, and he's always been a trustworthy financial steward of it. What would have prompted him to take such a huge chance, not just with his future, but with that of the entire company? Why not ask one of the other partners for a loan? Why not take out a personal loan? I don't see why he immediately leapt to this secretive, dangerous solution, which seems somewhat out of character to me. The more I think about it, the more the check-forging incident seems like a rather contrived way to create tension at the end of the season. I've had some trouble with some other character evolutions previously in the season (Pete is that unhappy? Peggy is that dissatisfied?), but this one has been the hardest one for me to accept. I'll mull it over and try to watch the episode again during the week, and I'll let you know next week if my feelings on the subject have evolved.


http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/whats-alan-watching/posts/review-mad-men-christmas-waltz-harry-krishna

The Lane plot was the sketchiest of the week, in the same way that his infatuation with the woman in the wallet was the one misstep in the season premiere. Lane is, by design, so far removed from the other characters at the office that whenever we get one of his spotlight episodes, it feels like we're just learning about a major set of facts he's been dealing with for months, whether it's the tax debt here or his chocolate bunny from last season's "Hands and Knees." And because he so rarely opens up to others, we can only guess at the motivations of a man we don't see nearly as much of as, say, Don, who also plays his cards close to the vest but whom we get to witness in action often enough to understand.


http://www.jonathanlack.com/2012/05/mad-men-review-christmas-waltz-season-5.html

Lane’s solution to the problem is so dramatically destructive that, were it not so sad to watch, it might be comical. He falsely requests a credit extension, presents it to the partners as an unexpected surplus, suggests a Christmas bonus for everyone except Joan (why, Lane, why?), and when they insist on presenting the bonus closer to the holiday, steals a check and forges Don’s signature. Even if the Mowhawk strike didn’t compel the partners to forego their bonuses, it goes without saying that this will, invariably, come back to haunt Lane in a big way. Mad Men isn’t as strictly Chekhovian as sister-series Breaking Bad, but Matthew Weiner isn’t going to let a mistake that horrific slide by without further attention.

It’s impossible to say exactly what drives Lane to such destructive ends, but one of the bigger issues at play is pride. I imagine had he come to Don with his financial woes, or even Bert Cooper, they may have found a simple way to help him out. But as Lane has demonstrated in the past, he’s too afraid of letting others see his vulnerabilities to ever reach out like that.

http://jasonkobely.com/2012/05/mad-men-review-510-christmas-waltz/

As much as I love the character and can even understand how someone like the tight-lipped, self-reliant Lane could find himself in a situation like this…how did Lane find himself in a situation like this?

As a supporting character, Lane never gets the kind of exposure that a Don or even a Peggy or a Pete or a Roger gets. Therefore, we get drips and drabs of Lane’s life revealed in sparing detail once every three or four episodes or so. I’d like to know a little more about how Lane’s finances got so out of whack in the first place and what steps he’s taken to try and fix it before he committed bank fraud and put the entire firm in jeopardy. That seems a very un-Lane-like thing to do.

I wouldn’t say it’s impossible…I’m just saying I wish we knew more…or at least, more than we’ve gotten so far.
(BTW, I’d also say this precarious house of cards Lane is building and the disaster that seems pending and all but inevitable immediately vaults Lane ahead of Pete to the top of the “So, who’s gonna bite it in ‘Mad Men’ finale this season?’ sweepstakes. At best, he seems likely headed for jail…at worst, well…Roger and Ginsberg may get their wish to see what happens when something – or someone – goes through a SCDP window. I’m by no means advocating this – I don’t want to imagine the rest of this series without Jared Harris…I’m just sayin’, it’s a distinct possibility…).



All of these people are respected critics. I don't know about the one below me but she's the only one I found who disliked the episode as much as I did.


http://www.examiner.com/review/review-mad-men-christmas-waltz-more-a-sleepy-shuffle

  

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439. "RE: Please it is not that bad"
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>Everyone below expresses a variation of the opinion that
>Lane's motives are fuzzy (and that its a detriment to
>quality), that he acted extremely out of character, and a few
>bring up going to Don or Bert or even Roger for the dough.
>Alan Sepinwall's opinion, from him, about this show, is like a
>diss track. And while I only clipped out pieces of a handful
>of reviews I looked through about a dozen; NOT ONE OF THEM had
>any variation at all of the notion that him going to a partner
>for a personal loan is a horrible idea.

Ok I probly read all of those haha so I'm not going to read them again. But I think I can agree with you that perhaps the writing of this particular storyline was a bit overdone and a bit excessive. All I'm saying is that it's not completely out of the blue, which is what you seemed to be implying. He's a CFO who can't handle his own finances and is embarrassed about where he stands in the company, especially considering what the other partners seem to think of him. So asking for the money isn't a "horrible idea," no, of course it isn't. But you can't see why he'd be embarrassed about it? So while I agree his ultimate decision was a bit extreme, I still see why just asking for the money didn't seem like an option for him.

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441. "RE: Please it is not that bad"
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>Ok I probly read all of those haha so I'm not going to read
>them again. But I think I can agree with you that perhaps the
>writing of this particular storyline was a bit overdone and a
>bit excessive. All I'm saying is that it's not completely out
>of the blue, which is what you seemed to be implying. He's a
>CFO who can't handle his own finances and is embarrassed about
>where he stands in the company, especially considering what
>the other partners seem to think of him. So asking for the
>money isn't a "horrible idea," no, of course it isn't. But you
>can't see why he'd be embarrassed about it?

Oh absolutely I can see why that would embarass him. Absolutely. But, not to belabor the argument forever, I have no idea:

Why he's in such dire straits in his private life
Why, embarassing though it may be, he'd do what he did over biting the bullet and asking for the $$ without entering into criminal behavior

I mean the implication is that he's so embarassed at being in money trouble yet he's not afraid of the embarassment of getting caught breaking the law?


  

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442. "Ha yea - right."
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I really think we agree for the most part. I just don't think that it's a GROSS over-dramatization like you do, that's all.

But I mean --- yea, in real life, I wouldn't expect someone like him to do something so ridiculous. But I guess we just gotta remember it's TV.

And also, remember, this may (and likely will) all become PERFECTLY clear by season's end. Mad Men has a habit of slowly developing plots and not telling you everything until you've seen the whole season.

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422. "RE: I agree"
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>I'll also add, I felt the tantrums by both Joan and Megan
>were horribly acted. Megan's was so out of the blue for me, I
>half expected her to bust out a "haha...gotcha!"

I thought similar things about Joan's, didn't really think this about Megan's.


>I'm over the Don and Joan tease. They do it because it always
>gets a rise out of people with the 'imagine if they were
>together' scenarios. Looking through this post, I see it
>worked.

It always will.


>The Hare Krishna Movement started in the 60s, right? Might as
>well shoehorn it into the show. The Crane/Kinsey story was a
>little too silly for me. But I guess that's Harry's purpose on
>the show now.

Like dude said below, it made perfect sense because it was Kinsey.


>Did we know Lane was struggling financially? I honestly can't
>remember. This also seemed out of the blue to me. He hasn't
>been highly visible in the last couple of episodes, and now
>he's back 'borrowing' money from the company. The shot of him
>forging the signature did look nice though.

Again, like dude said below, this has been touched on MANY times throughout his time on the show, especially this season.


>Yeah, didn't like this episode, and not enjoying the season
>much. I'll still watch every week, but it's starting to enter
>Entourage territory for me. Not in terms of quality, but the
>fact that I'm watching it just because...

I really don't get what's not to like about this season. Obviously I respect your opinion about it but can you tell me what you are disliking? I think this is another strong season from an all time excellent show. I've loved this season.

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435. "I'm also loving Roger continually bringing his acid trip"
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And how he keeps annoying everyone with it.

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Joan: (roll eyes) "Yeah, I know."

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447. "This same Paul Kinsey hooked up with Joan right?"
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How in the world did that happen??

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448. "Booze?"
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449. ""You have a big mouth!""
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say 'YEAH'!!!!!

  

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451. "can we get a mm season 5, part 3 post"
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this is getting unwieldy

  

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452. "^^^^^^^^^^^^^"
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453. "Freddy Rumsen!!!!"
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great episode....

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454. "Peggy, you're awesome"
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And Don just did not get it.

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455. "So, did they just write Peggy out of the series?"
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Seems doubtful, since she's essentially the heart of this show, but them spliting time between SCDP and her new firm seems a little impractical.

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456. "No, she's not done"
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Bettington Draperton divorced Don and we still got a bunch of her in S4. We only got less of her this season because she was pregnant. I'm sure we will still see plenty of Peggy in her new environment.

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