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"Boardwalk Empire - Season 2"


  

          

Nucky and company are back on tonight, man I cannot wait. The wife and I were suppose to go to a family gathering but fuck that.

I expect at least someone to get killed tonight

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Yeah, I'm in.
Sep 25th 2011
1
Hell yeah. I'm itching for this show to hit that next level
Sep 25th 2011
2
Okay then, I'll just go ahead and say it...
Sep 25th 2011
3
They've been hinting at that since she was introduced.
Sep 25th 2011
4
u ain't have to say it, the wife's face said it all...
Sep 25th 2011
5
It's been implied they were "close"
Sep 25th 2011
6
batty broad...
Sep 25th 2011
7
Um... awkward.
Sep 26th 2011
10
Im gonna be perv enough to say it
Sep 26th 2011
19
Yeah ugh
Sep 27th 2011
28
it's gotta suck that his mom's hotter than his wife
Sep 27th 2011
30
      and since we talkin' bout allusions, his wife didnt wanna suck it
Sep 27th 2011
32
      She probably wants to fuck his mom too.
Sep 28th 2011
36
           lol
Sep 28th 2011
37
           CANNOT. STAND. THAT. BITCH.
Oct 03rd 2011
48
i gotta rewatch season one...cause uh....
Sep 26th 2011
8
To answer this:
Sep 26th 2011
9
RE: i gotta rewatch season one...cause uh....
Sep 26th 2011
11
      RE: i gotta rewatch season one...cause uh....
Sep 26th 2011
18
Might be the best-looking show on Television
Sep 26th 2011
12
co-sign this all to a T
Sep 26th 2011
14
??
Sep 26th 2011
21
MOREHOUSE!!!
Sep 26th 2011
13
3 characters people wanted a lot more of got a lot of shine
Sep 26th 2011
15
Good opener, not great but good
Sep 26th 2011
16
that capone scene was hilarious.
Sep 26th 2011
20
RE: Good opener, not great but good
Sep 26th 2011
23
Didn't recognize Uncle Junior until I saw the credits...
Sep 26th 2011
17
Wait, which one was Uncle June?
Sep 26th 2011
24
      The guy at the Klanman's funeral
Sep 26th 2011
26
Chalky
Sep 26th 2011
22
Yeah, I thought that seemed forced/awkward as well
Sep 26th 2011
25
Old Timey Omar
Sep 27th 2011
31
what amazes me was in Sepinwall's review he PRAISED that scene
Sep 27th 2011
33
      he had "I'm about to cry" mouth...his face seemed totally off his emotio...
Sep 27th 2011
34
Solid opener
Sep 26th 2011
27
Not sure what happened but it fizzled a bit
Sep 27th 2011
29
Co sign all of this
Sep 28th 2011
35
episode 2...
Oct 02nd 2011
38
i think..
Oct 02nd 2011
39
nah...
Oct 03rd 2011
42
      that dere say, "get yo finger out my FACE!"
Oct 03rd 2011
50
Great episode
Oct 02nd 2011
40
mrs. schroeder is a ride or die bitch.
Oct 03rd 2011
41
      i'm not sold on schroeder...
Oct 03rd 2011
43
      I came in to post this... but Cyren's counter-points are compelling as w...
Oct 03rd 2011
44
      yo, I said that shit VERBATIM last night, to my girl.
Oct 03rd 2011
47
      mrs. schroeder is about to ride that young dude
Oct 03rd 2011
51
           I just said in GD... Margaret/Irish dude = Carmela/Furio
Oct 03rd 2011
54
                God I hope not. I'd rather he smash on the servent instead.
Oct 04th 2011
63
Did he fall in a pile of shoe polish?
Oct 03rd 2011
45
      Nucky tries to appease everyone but has come to realize
Oct 03rd 2011
49
      Great line & the Irish lad is Charlie Cox/Tristan from Stardust
Oct 03rd 2011
52
DVR Check: PBS's Prohibition (Ken Burns)
Oct 03rd 2011
46
pt 2 talked about George Remus...
Oct 04th 2011
65
Didn't comment on 1st ep since it bored me & I barley watched but
Oct 03rd 2011
53
I'm with Nucky, simply because he doesn't look like a fucking clown
Oct 03rd 2011
55
he lifted a tusk over his head, yo
Oct 03rd 2011
59
I'm saying, dude is seriously smelling his own shit now
Oct 03rd 2011
61
so Benny = Bugsy Seigel, right?
Oct 03rd 2011
56
thats how I took it
Oct 03rd 2011
57
i wouldn't say it misfired last season
Oct 03rd 2011
58
      Yeah, saying it "misfired" is too much
Oct 03rd 2011
62
I was coming in here to post this.
Oct 03rd 2011
60
Yes, he is billed as Bugsy Seigel
Oct 04th 2011
64
Precarious motherfucker!
Oct 04th 2011
66
nobody watched last night?
Oct 10th 2011
67
I think Nucky's going to welcome Jimmy back
Oct 10th 2011
68
Im kinda lost as to why Jimmy split with Nucky in the first place
Oct 10th 2011
69
Goes back to the beginning of the last season
Oct 10th 2011
70
The Irish guy was muscle for the Irish Liberation guys
Oct 11th 2011
75
so when he came to make sure the house was 'ready' or 'safe'
Oct 11th 2011
80
      RE: so when he came to make sure the house was 'ready' or 'safe'
Oct 11th 2011
81
It's an Oedipal storyline - Coming of age bullshit
Oct 11th 2011
82
How did Jimmy end up with *both* of his parents being pedos?
Oct 10th 2011
71
Am I supposed to give a fuck about Nucky?
Oct 10th 2011
72
I keep watching so I think I care lol
Oct 10th 2011
73
i like them all...
Oct 10th 2011
74
what the above said, plus it's just good TV
Oct 11th 2011
76
Completely disagree...
Oct 11th 2011
78
Boom. My favorite character has become Margaret.
Oct 11th 2011
83
you're correct
Oct 18th 2011
107
lol @ anyone bein' impatient with this series...
Oct 11th 2011
77
another really good episode
Oct 11th 2011
79
this show is GREAT and it keeps getting better
Oct 13th 2011
84
Lost watching. I think I missed a episode last season.
Oct 13th 2011
85
This show is an atmospheric think piece
Oct 13th 2011
86
episode 4...
Oct 16th 2011
87
RE: episode 4...
Oct 16th 2011
88
yup. U see the look on Chalky face when Nuk said...
Oct 17th 2011
95
      RE: yup. U see the look on Chalky face when Nuk said...
Oct 17th 2011
104
RE: episode 4...
Oct 17th 2011
97
      she be playin' games...
Oct 17th 2011
98
Finally, we get some more info on Richard
Oct 16th 2011
89
This may have been the best episode of the entire season so far...
Oct 17th 2011
90
good shit here, man
Oct 17th 2011
102
      Thanks man. I'm just glad that they are finally tapping into their human...
Oct 18th 2011
115
I was like why would Nucky want his own case to go federal
Oct 17th 2011
91
Angela & Richard have what each other want
Oct 17th 2011
92
richard seems too loyal to do that
Oct 17th 2011
94
i disagree...
Oct 17th 2011
96
      yeah, this
Oct 17th 2011
101
I went from not liking Eli, to HATING his bitch-ass.
Oct 17th 2011
93
eli's been a fucking baby since last season
Oct 17th 2011
99
i'm really hating Margaret now
Oct 17th 2011
100
Yeah, I'm under the impression that we still don't know her full story.
Oct 17th 2011
103
she's a less interesting Carmella
Oct 18th 2011
106
pretty much. carm was fleshed out
Oct 18th 2011
113
Yeah, I don't get the character
Oct 18th 2011
109
Chalky White is just dreadful
Oct 18th 2011
105
True
Oct 18th 2011
117
he was so awesome in season 1...not sure what happened
Oct 19th 2011
125
yeah, just waiting for Chalky to drop the shotgun/briefcase line
Oct 20th 2011
135
bah.
Oct 18th 2011
108
What happened to Mol?
Oct 18th 2011
110
I really like William Forsythe
Oct 18th 2011
111
RE: I really like William Forsythe
Oct 19th 2011
119
iont know about mol
Oct 18th 2011
112
That last scene had me all sorts of conflicted
Oct 18th 2011
114
really? i didn't feel an ounce of pity for that old fuck
Oct 18th 2011
116
I'm probably just too damn empathetic
Oct 18th 2011
118
co-sign
Oct 19th 2011
120
yep
Oct 24th 2011
137
for a milli second....
Oct 19th 2011
121
RE: That last scene had me all sorts of conflicted
Oct 19th 2011
122
She's not a sympathetic figure either
Oct 19th 2011
123
      Her overall character isn't meant to be sympathetic...
Oct 19th 2011
124
      but at least we have a sense of why she is the way she is
Oct 19th 2011
126
      Why did you put love in quotation marks?
Oct 19th 2011
127
      "i used to kiss him on his weiner"
Oct 19th 2011
128
           I understand their relationship is off kilter
Oct 19th 2011
129
      I disagree.
Oct 19th 2011
130
think of it this way
Oct 19th 2011
131
      ^^A+
Oct 19th 2011
132
           and how she started painting the picture as some romantic tryst
Oct 19th 2011
133
                her eyes were scary as hell when she switched her mood..
Oct 19th 2011
134
That was fucking EPIC
Oct 23rd 2011
136
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oct 24th 2011
138
Cinematography 101
Oct 24th 2011
139
and who are you?
Oct 24th 2011
140
      snob.
Oct 24th 2011
151
           Ah ok, opinion discounted then
Oct 24th 2011
153
*spoilers*
Oct 24th 2011
141
FUCK
Oct 24th 2011
142
the scene in the woods with richard...
Oct 24th 2011
143
its funny....it moved me too....but I was saying Do It!
Oct 24th 2011
144
His pain is great tv, TALK HIM OFF THE LEDGE!
Oct 24th 2011
146
co-sign!!!! oh my god, i was trembling
Oct 24th 2011
147
lol
Oct 24th 2011
148
i was definitely cringing and had a screw face...
Oct 24th 2011
149
lmao man they SCALPED somebody. that's incredible
Oct 24th 2011
145
sheeeeiiiiidddddttttttttt
Oct 25th 2011
166
CAN'T WAIT (for next week)
Oct 24th 2011
150
Wow, Dick Cheney is still a dick at EVERYTHING
Oct 24th 2011
155
      His comment about the only person he knows who watches BE
Oct 25th 2011
168
Jimmy is now my LEAST favorite character
Oct 24th 2011
152
I wanted the dog to o w/ richard
Oct 24th 2011
154
i disagree with all of that except the dog going with richard
Oct 24th 2011
156
      yup nuck treats everybody like shit...
Oct 24th 2011
157
      That's just tough love
Oct 24th 2011
159
           commodore didn't love nucky though
Oct 25th 2011
160
           i disagree about jimmy wanting to be a boss...
Oct 25th 2011
164
      Jimmy DOES owe Nuck everything.
Oct 25th 2011
169
           Nucky expects him to be his bitch for life in return
Oct 25th 2011
171
                I don't know about 'for life' but yeah.... he wants him to play his part...
Oct 26th 2011
176
i like how nucky treats his "family"
Oct 24th 2011
158
I think THIS is the key to Nuck.....
Oct 25th 2011
161
Yup
Oct 25th 2011
162
that's the key and they still be trying to fuck him over lol
Oct 25th 2011
163
      He has no real relationships
Oct 25th 2011
165
Nah, there's real affection & regard btwn him and his manservant.
Oct 25th 2011
170
      and even margaret is
Oct 25th 2011
172
           yep, and honestly, I can't blame her.
Oct 26th 2011
175
                agreed
Oct 26th 2011
180
Richard Harrow to the rescue again.
Oct 25th 2011
167
yep
Oct 25th 2011
173
yeah i couldnt remember who he was or why he's important...
Oct 25th 2011
174
      that was the mayor.
Oct 26th 2011
177
           I don't think that was the Mayor
Oct 26th 2011
178
                he was the mayor in season 1, who was deseated on the same power play
Oct 26th 2011
179
DONKEY KONG
Oct 30th 2011
181
i like the pace and details given for this series...
Oct 31st 2011
182
Nucky was golden in this ep. 1 of Buscemi's best jobs so far
Oct 31st 2011
183
This felt very filler....
Oct 31st 2011
184
Seemed like a good read to me...
Oct 31st 2011
185
what makes you so sure that it wont?
Oct 31st 2011
186
Jimmy has no way to 'enforce' the deal.
Nov 01st 2011
194
      killing them did him no good...but if they cross him he can always
Nov 01st 2011
208
jimmy really doesn't have many options at this point...
Oct 31st 2011
187
it really did
Nov 01st 2011
188
the interesting thing is that NONE of those upstarts
Nov 01st 2011
189
      Meyer does...he's Rothstein lite
Nov 01st 2011
190
      well the real Lucky is "the father of modern organized crime"
Nov 01st 2011
191
      lol, Im thinkin 'uh,Lucky turned out to have a pretty nice crime career'
Nov 01st 2011
198
      that's about ten years away
Nov 01st 2011
203
           true
Nov 01st 2011
206
                Well, I can think of a way they can do it (but it's not likely)
Nov 01st 2011
207
                     ion't see why not...
Nov 02nd 2011
209
                          Yeah, I meant it's not going to happen this season
Nov 02nd 2011
212
                               thing is, how far down the path of reality do they want to go?
Nov 05th 2011
215
      I think the rest of the season is going to be about Jimmy's...
Nov 01st 2011
196
      Charlie and Meyer are working their way up
Nov 01st 2011
199
ok phew it was just me
Nov 01st 2011
205
The Mayor is dead and no one asks about him.
Nov 01st 2011
192
he wasn't the current mayor...
Nov 01st 2011
195
Chalky White is back in business...
Nov 01st 2011
193
Jimmy
Nov 01st 2011
197
I think it's because he told him about the guy meeting with Nucky
Nov 01st 2011
200
no need for that scene
Nov 01st 2011
201
that was a little sloppy
Nov 01st 2011
204
      He did ask Jimmy several times, if he was sure.
Nov 04th 2011
214
"that's just something she does"
Nov 01st 2011
202
I could watch an hour of "Nucky on the phone" jump cuts
Nov 02nd 2011
210
"Who the fuck wants to stay in Cincinatti?"
Nov 02nd 2011
211
I'm thinking the IRA guy is more than he seems.
Nov 03rd 2011
213
hans shroeder isnt an irish name so i doubt this
Nov 08th 2011
240
episode 7...
Nov 06th 2011
216
everyone's getting fucked in this episode, one way or another
Nov 06th 2011
217
RE: everyone's getting fucked in this episode, one way or another
Nov 07th 2011
218
holy shit, this episode actually topped two weeks ago
Nov 07th 2011
219
RE: holy shit, this episode actually topped two weeks ago
Nov 08th 2011
245
RE: everyone's getting fucked in this episode, one way or another
Nov 07th 2011
220
Jimmy's prone to making bad decisions...
Nov 07th 2011
221
yeah to me his hesitancy shows that he's thinking right...
Nov 07th 2011
223
totally agree.
Nov 07th 2011
231
RE: everyone's getting fucked in this episode, one way or another
Nov 08th 2011
246
      i dont think so
Nov 08th 2011
247
           I agree
Nov 09th 2011
251
           ah, i understand
Nov 12th 2011
253
smh all around
Nov 07th 2011
227
Nucky fucked up and let emotions rule him with Eli
Nov 07th 2011
222
well, I think he underestimated Eli.
Nov 07th 2011
225
      True, Eli did cross the rubicon
Nov 07th 2011
228
           yep, sad as it is, I think it was a mistake to let Eli live.
Nov 07th 2011
230
Well...can't go wrong picking something from the bible
Nov 07th 2011
224
FUNNIEST part of that scene
Nov 07th 2011
226
he knew EXACTLY what was up when she walked in....
Nov 07th 2011
229
If there was ever a time to start . . .
Nov 08th 2011
239
Nucky is straight comedy
Nov 09th 2011
249
classic
Nov 08th 2011
248
these folks can't just kill somebody with 1 gunshot or stabbing huh?
Nov 07th 2011
232
RE: these folks can't just kill somebody with 1 gunshot or stabbing huh?
Nov 07th 2011
233
      i got hype at first cause i thought owen was gonna
Nov 08th 2011
241
for the record...
Nov 08th 2011
234
I fucking love this show...
Nov 08th 2011
235
Explain Margaret's NY family to me...
Nov 08th 2011
236
I think just the young one was her sister
Nov 08th 2011
237
Ditto...
Nov 08th 2011
238
there are remnants of abuse...
Nov 08th 2011
242
      correct me if I'm wrong....
Nov 08th 2011
243
           all sounds about right from what i gathered...
Nov 08th 2011
244
           That's what I gathered only addition
Nov 09th 2011
250
                depths of the ocean...
Nov 11th 2011
252
                     well she was getting abused by her dead husband
Nov 14th 2011
269
jimmy darmody, you stupid bastard
Nov 14th 2011
254
agree with alla this...
Nov 14th 2011
255
man I thought Eli was going over that blacony
Nov 14th 2011
256
man I thought Eli was going over that blacony
Nov 14th 2011
257
yeah i cant believe he was celebrating all carelessly
Nov 14th 2011
264
shits gettin real
Nov 15th 2011
274
      I thought the same thing
Nov 15th 2011
285
The youth movement!
Nov 14th 2011
258
getting better and better...
Nov 14th 2011
259
I just think it's the storyline that makes me not like her
Nov 14th 2011
260
for me it's the character.
Nov 14th 2011
262
      but you chilled LOL
Nov 14th 2011
270
           LMAO! Amazing exchange up here!
Nov 16th 2011
292
nah
Nov 15th 2011
271
      then leave.
Nov 15th 2011
279
           shes trying
Nov 15th 2011
281
                I don't think she is tho.
Nov 15th 2011
283
Loved this episodes theme of Father Figures
Nov 14th 2011
261
you know it's not even the storyline, it's her.
Nov 14th 2011
263
      i like jimmy, but why should we not root for ang?
Nov 14th 2011
265
           fuck you, yo.
Nov 14th 2011
266
                RE: fuck you, yo.
Nov 14th 2011
267
                hahahaha. excellent!
Nov 14th 2011
268
                ah just saw this
Nov 15th 2011
272
                     yeah, this is a huge part, I think.
Nov 15th 2011
284
                          What makes you think Jimmy thinks he's smarter?
Nov 15th 2011
286
                               Otherwise, why take him on as an opponent?
Nov 15th 2011
290
Stuhlbarg is an incredible actor
Nov 15th 2011
273
Regarding Nucky using Chalky to start the strikes
Nov 15th 2011
275
seems to me like Chalky's people been waiting to fight back
Nov 15th 2011
277
In an earlier scene
Nov 15th 2011
280
      i took that as them being angry that Chalky didn't strike back
Nov 15th 2011
287
I don't think Nucky is recruiting IRA guys for him per se
Nov 15th 2011
282
      good call on the guns...i didnt even make that connection
Nov 15th 2011
288
      My first thought...
Nov 16th 2011
293
Buscemi was gold again tonight, he's topped his s1 performance
Nov 15th 2011
276
Everything was on point, not sure about Van Alden's stuff though
Nov 15th 2011
278
Manure
Nov 15th 2011
289
that AR line was my favorite of the show...
Nov 15th 2011
291
just a lot of wheels getting set in motion there
Nov 20th 2011
294
yeah, this show does a great job of ...*spoiler*
Nov 21st 2011
295
      he was tired of Manny and Nucky standing in front of bears as symbolism
Nov 21st 2011
306
I now wash my hands of Jimmy.
Nov 21st 2011
296
It's kinda sad when Capone, Luciano and Lansky are the voice of reason
Nov 21st 2011
299
hmmm
Nov 21st 2011
300
Agree Totally
Nov 21st 2011
303
the one thing I really hate about him not paying the 5K
Nov 21st 2011
304
Is it really only 3 episodes left?
Nov 21st 2011
297
eh, it's too late now...
Nov 21st 2011
298
Yep
Nov 21st 2011
301
ion't know if our boy is gonna make it.
Nov 21st 2011
302
Yeah, Richard is not long for this world
Nov 21st 2011
305
The one way they can salvage his storyline is banging Jimmy's wife
Nov 21st 2011
307
Honestly, I think Jimmy might be the one to get capped.
Nov 21st 2011
308
      I agree with this part:
Nov 21st 2011
309
Chalky White, niggas
Nov 21st 2011
310
when did Jimmy make fun of Harrow?
Nov 21st 2011
311
yea, I gotta go back and check for that 'cause I didn't see it
Nov 21st 2011
312
I don't think he did. At least not knowingly.
Nov 21st 2011
313
      this is what i figured it was
Nov 21st 2011
314
      how does it feel to have everything?
Nov 21st 2011
315
      nah he knows he wants a nice girl
Nov 22nd 2011
323
           and what's Jimmy done to that end?
Nov 22nd 2011
330
      that what I think it was too.
Nov 22nd 2011
321
Jimmy is uncontrollable right now. He's worse than Capone
Nov 22nd 2011
316
Butch took a shottie to the shoulder
Nov 22nd 2011
317
lol he kinda got drug in the shop yo
Nov 22nd 2011
318
Me too!
Nov 22nd 2011
320
kinda? he pulled that nigga thru the glass, B
Nov 23rd 2011
331
word...why couldnt he shoot him through the glass?
Nov 22nd 2011
324
He is fucking up in the way he's dealing with Manny
Nov 22nd 2011
319
yea it's like he learned absolutely nothing from Nucky
Nov 22nd 2011
325
      German homie has got his back tho...
Nov 22nd 2011
327
      Owen's all business so he doesn't care either way...
Nov 22nd 2011
329
RE: Jimmy is uncontrollable right now. He's worse than Capone
Nov 22nd 2011
328
      damnnnnn
Nov 28th 2011
340
      He truly is 'The One'
Nov 28th 2011
348
      cold blooded how it went down too!
Nov 29th 2011
389
http://gifsoup.com/view4/3162865/fresh-killed-meat-l.gif
Nov 22nd 2011
322
i think Harrow might take a bullet for Jimmy
Nov 22nd 2011
326
I could see this happening.
Nov 23rd 2011
332
Random observation: Mickey Doyle's laugh is GOLDEN.
Nov 26th 2011
333
funniest moment this season
Nov 28th 2011
354
I AM SO DEPRESSED!!!!!!
Nov 27th 2011
334
HE WAS A REGULAR WHITE MAN!!
Nov 27th 2011
335
      you realize that's how all strikes were dealt with right?
Nov 27th 2011
337
           SEE: post #295 n/m
Nov 27th 2011
338
looked like Horowitz changed Doyle's mind...
Nov 27th 2011
336
wow
Nov 27th 2011
339
"All you have is your health..."
Nov 28th 2011
341
I gotta agree. I think this puts Richard back in full Hulk mode.
Nov 28th 2011
344
      richard is totally poppin the butcher
Nov 28th 2011
351
pass the damn popcorn.
Nov 28th 2011
342
kinda surprised ppl are sad jimmys wife got murked
Nov 28th 2011
343
I think I get it, but its just kind of excessive play for Eli imho
Nov 28th 2011
345
not sad but I see it as a cop out, giving Jimmy an obvious heads up
Nov 28th 2011
346
I knew it was the lesbian off top
Nov 28th 2011
347
      Nuck got him into Princeton, and Jimmy went to the war instead
Nov 28th 2011
352
Yeah that last line was gangsta as fuck
Nov 28th 2011
349
it was a sad death scene whether you like her or not...
Nov 28th 2011
350
people in here actin like she DESERVED to die....
Nov 28th 2011
355
      everyone on this show has DEMONS. they all deserve to die really
Nov 28th 2011
363
           i would argue that she's one of the main characters that didnt
Nov 28th 2011
364
           Exactly
Nov 29th 2011
370
           that's reason enough for someone to deserve something as permanent
Nov 29th 2011
371
           LOL...it's cold up i here
Nov 29th 2011
375
           u realize this is a tv show right. and ppl get killed every week.....
Nov 29th 2011
377
           Umm she was taking tommy to france and leaving jimmy
Nov 29th 2011
379
nothing she did warranted killing her.
Nov 29th 2011
372
yooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Nov 28th 2011
353
from the GD post:
Nov 28th 2011
356
Eli buried that body on his own though...
Nov 28th 2011
365
Naw Eli called cherub cop for help with that body
Nov 29th 2011
376
      to help him get it out of his garage and into the car...
Nov 29th 2011
388
True, dude really stepped into this before he was ready
Nov 29th 2011
380
he was willing to give Reamus 60K, but stiffed Manny 5?
Nov 29th 2011
381
      Right, from the moment we met him
Nov 29th 2011
383
major co-sign on margaret, 20 minutes an ep spent on her lame ass
Nov 29th 2011
386
So I'm just gonna call this now...
Nov 28th 2011
357
RE: So I'm just gonna call this now...
Nov 28th 2011
358
That certainly makes sense
Nov 28th 2011
359
      I hate y'all teaser watchin' + postin' people
Nov 28th 2011
360
      Oh, I didn't realzie discussing teasers was taboo
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      Nah, even hes kinda skeeved out about his moms closeness
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      His moms type rapey though
Nov 29th 2011
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           ^^^The Psychic 'To Catch A Predator'
Dec 04th 2011
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                I sorta called it before that.
Dec 04th 2011
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      I didn't watch the teaser, but...
Nov 29th 2011
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i want chalky 2 get the 3 crackers delivered 2 him
Nov 28th 2011
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word...that'd be dope
Nov 28th 2011
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no one thinks Harrow might have it in for Jimmy?
Nov 28th 2011
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Where was Harrow?
Nov 29th 2011
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i don't think he's that complicated a character
Nov 29th 2011
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Ugh I knew that dumbass was gonna get her killed
Nov 29th 2011
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Great episode ...Jimmy aint smart enough and Eli is fucked
Nov 29th 2011
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Horowitz never been to Jimmy's...
Nov 29th 2011
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Remus was the one who met @ Jimmy's house
Nov 29th 2011
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pernsley is this years harrow, minor character stealing the show
Nov 29th 2011
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      CHICKENNN . . . MASH POTATOES . . . CHOCKLIT PUDDING . .
Nov 30th 2011
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           he's got that old 1800s countrified swagger
Nov 30th 2011
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                I wonder if he'll try to snake Chalk for the asswhoopin he took in jail
Dec 01st 2011
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                     I thinking that's gonna happen next season
Dec 01st 2011
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gangsters aren't made, they're born that way...
Dec 01st 2011
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Bad analogy, but I get your point
Dec 01st 2011
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      not at all...
Dec 01st 2011
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Damn, Margaret gave that whole wad of dough to a swindling priest...
Dec 01st 2011
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OH YES THEY DID
Dec 04th 2011
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You called it.
Dec 04th 2011
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Maaaaaan listen
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:-(
Dec 04th 2011
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:(
Dec 05th 2011
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even as it was happening i didnt think they'd take it there
Dec 04th 2011
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yep, I was like, this is perfectly awkward
Dec 04th 2011
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      i agree...real weird ep
Dec 04th 2011
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In a list of fucked up crazy things that happened in that episode...
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turrible...
Dec 05th 2011
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I think I may be as equally traumatized as Jimmy after seeing that.
Dec 05th 2011
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"...who killed his father to marry his mother"
Dec 05th 2011
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I... I don't what to say or where to start. Just damn...
Dec 04th 2011
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that hour was a series of fucked up events...have to watch it again
Dec 05th 2011
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That episode was awesome
Dec 05th 2011
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RE: That episode was awesome
Dec 05th 2011
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wonderful episode.....you forget where she says ..'i'll be upstairs'
Dec 05th 2011
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so disturbing but so amazing.
Dec 11th 2011
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quiet reminders...
Dec 05th 2011
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Margaret needs that Cher from moonstruck slap
Dec 05th 2011
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      ain't enough slaps in the world...
Dec 05th 2011
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      i cannot wait to see what richard gets into tonite.
Dec 11th 2011
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s2e11 is so far the best of the series imo
Dec 05th 2011
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This season is exponentially better than the first.
Dec 05th 2011
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exactly :)
Dec 11th 2011
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Gillian Appreciation Reply.
Dec 05th 2011
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I was gonna make this exact same post
Dec 05th 2011
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The Richard thing was so cold imo
Dec 05th 2011
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      i felt so bad for him
Dec 05th 2011
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      Exactly what I thought
Dec 05th 2011
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her voice is oh so sweet
Dec 05th 2011
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agree/disagree...
Dec 05th 2011
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hol up Cy
Dec 05th 2011
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nope...
Dec 05th 2011
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      RE: nope...
Dec 05th 2011
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           my problem with your point...
Dec 06th 2011
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                RE: my problem with your point...
Dec 06th 2011
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                     nah, player...
Dec 06th 2011
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We are on the same page.
Dec 05th 2011
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why do i think Nucky knows
Dec 05th 2011
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      he's always known...
Dec 05th 2011
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awesomely put, reg.
Dec 11th 2011
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So I guess Van Alden is gonna take Doyle's offer?
Dec 05th 2011
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of what use is he?
Dec 05th 2011
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      This is what I was thinkning.
Dec 05th 2011
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      But, its Mickey Doyle.....
Dec 05th 2011
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           Nah...Mickey is a classic weasel
Dec 05th 2011
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I thought this episode was too heavy/too dark.
Dec 05th 2011
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motherfucker!
Dec 05th 2011
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Gretchen Mol might get an Emmy for this disgusting shit
Dec 05th 2011
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Jimmy has been upgraded back to smart dumb muthafucka
Dec 05th 2011
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Damn, now that i think about it, i've been in jimmy's shoes b4
Dec 06th 2011
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^^^chokes bitches.
Dec 06th 2011
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from gd: jimmy's mother is deluded
Dec 06th 2011
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Has everyone already forgotten the horrible demons that Jillian lives wi...
Dec 06th 2011
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motherfucker
Dec 08th 2011
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What does motherfucker mean?
Dec 08th 2011
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oh cool, so lucky and jimmy are eskimo brothers
Dec 08th 2011
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LOL
Dec 08th 2011
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lol
Dec 08th 2011
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I've just given in. Don't love the show, but compelled to watch...
Dec 09th 2011
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Holy Oedipus Batman
Dec 10th 2011
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she fucked him over
Dec 11th 2011
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damn
Dec 11th 2011
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I am NOT seeking forgiveness...
Dec 11th 2011
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I feel terrible for Jimmy's son
Dec 11th 2011
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well, assuming it'll be 1923
Dec 12th 2011
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I am without speech..
Dec 11th 2011
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didn't see that coming..that said...margaret is a bitch
Dec 11th 2011
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One of the show's best episodes IMO.
Dec 11th 2011
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Cicero is right outside of Chicago, Capone's territory
Dec 11th 2011
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      yup
Dec 12th 2011
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Okay, some more thoughts (SPOILERS of course)
Dec 12th 2011
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RE: Okay, some more thoughts (SPOILERS of course)
Dec 12th 2011
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If there is a god...would he have given me a mug like this?
Dec 12th 2011
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RE: If there is a god...would he have given me a mug like this?
Dec 12th 2011
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no idea where they go from here
Dec 12th 2011
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poor deputy halloran.
Dec 12th 2011
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That was amazing.
Dec 12th 2011
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How 'bout those Phillies? (c) Nuck
Dec 12th 2011
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or it could be cause people in AC root for the Phillies
Dec 12th 2011
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      Or it could be both, wtf.
Dec 12th 2011
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I'm predicting a lot of Alphonse next season
Dec 12th 2011
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Terrence Winter explains Season 2 and why he fucked with our emotions
Dec 12th 2011
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my favorite episode yet, but torn on those last 5 minutes...
Dec 12th 2011
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Wowzers
Dec 12th 2011
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I'm so disgusted with this show right now
Dec 12th 2011
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Sebso spitting hot fire lol
Dec 12th 2011
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The most random motherfucker KILLED IT holy shit hahaahh
Dec 13th 2011
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      Yeah man I was shocked it was that good lol
Dec 13th 2011
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Great finale - Great Season
Dec 12th 2011
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^^^^^^^ all of this
Dec 12th 2011
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this was the only conclusion...
Dec 12th 2011
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He's gonna have to
Dec 12th 2011
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i really really really did not see that coming
Dec 12th 2011
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neither did i. i don't know why. i feel like i should've seen signs...
Dec 13th 2011
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Seriously fuck Eli
Dec 12th 2011
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I was joking on facebook today about Tommy
Dec 12th 2011
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i can't stand margaret
Dec 12th 2011
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      she is gonna get her comeuppance at some point...
Dec 13th 2011
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      ^^ her self righteousness is unbelievable
Dec 14th 2011
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http://oi41.tinypic.com/2vmht91.jpg
Dec 13th 2011
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god...that cracked me up...thanks
Dec 14th 2011
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That was a great season of television
Dec 13th 2011
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her character is VERY conniving and self-righteous...
Dec 13th 2011
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Pun??
Dec 14th 2011
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Incredible finale that margret shit is disturbing
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biscuit
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1. "Yeah, I'm in."
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Looks like Jimmy is about to step up.

Heron and the Klan? Oh noes!

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2. "Hell yeah. I'm itching for this show to hit that next level"
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it's very good with all the potential to be great, but it ain't there yet.

really looking forward to it

  

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3. "Okay then, I'll just go ahead and say it..."
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What the fuck was that comment by Jimmy's mom!?

  

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4. "They've been hinting at that since she was introduced."
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And yeah, that one caught me off-guard too.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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5. "u ain't have to say it, the wife's face said it all..."
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...LMAO!!!

  

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6. "It's been implied they were "close""
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But I think this is the first time it was explicitly addressed. It almost seems like she's making moves to get him "back", as sick as that is. She certainly is a little verbally combative with Jimmy's wife, as if she's trying to let her know who the queen bitch is.

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7. "batty broad..."
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..in the worst way

i'm pretty sure their loadin' up for some nice emotional/nervous breakdowns in the future...



..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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10. "Um... awkward."
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19. "Im gonna be perv enough to say it"
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If that was my moms, id have to seriously reconsider my stance on motherfucking.

That said, ewww, at sucking off baby penises.

  

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30. "it's gotta suck that his mom's hotter than his wife"
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i'm just tripping that she volunteered that info on some twisted competition shit

  

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32. "and since we talkin' bout allusions, his wife didnt wanna suck it"
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"in the french manner" during season 1.

and the kid interrupted them so I'm not sure she ever did (maybe she did "kiss it" though)

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36. "She probably wants to fuck his mom too."
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48. "CANNOT. STAND. THAT. BITCH."
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8. "i gotta rewatch season one...cause uh...."
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...i really don't get why ANYONE on the "nucky Revenge Squad" trusts one another...one guy is practically Nucky's son, the other IS Nuck's brother, and the third is a guy who mentored him....all three barely cared for each other over the years...

...i was kinda glad when they busted that restaurant, cause the staff was just being TOO careless

..the whole Klan thing was tripped out, and sad that people could get away with BS like that...

....what was the Phantom homie doing with those pics??

...the lil boy killed me gettin ready for the whuppin....he was like, "i know what 'talk' REALLY means...this is the bullshit..."

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9. "To answer this:"
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>....what was the Phantom homie doing with those pics??

I think it's just that he much he years into the completely idealized family life pictured in all of those photos. It's like how he tells Jimmy in his previous scene, "How does it feel to have everything?" Well everyone else is out for wealth and power and control of the city, he just wants a wife and two kids sitting with him and the dinner table.

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11. "RE: i gotta rewatch season one...cause uh...."
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>...i really don't get why ANYONE on the "nucky Revenge Squad"
>trusts one another...one guy is practically Nucky's son, the
>other IS Nuck's brother, and the third is a guy who mentored
>him....all three barely cared for each other over the
>years...


Jimmy felt like an errand boy for Nucky, and like he was never going to be more than a hired man. Remember, early in the season he was fired for his entrepreneurial efforts (robbing that shipment from the NY guy, can't remember his name for some reason) and had to run off to Chicago, where he met Capone and started to make a name for himself. Similarly, his brother felt that he wasn't someone who deserved to be manipulated by Nucky the way that he was, what with being deseated from the Sheriff's chair only to be reinstated for political means, which Nucky intended as an act of brotherly love but Eli took as an act of charity. The Commodore, I can't remember his beef EXACTLY, but I do know that he resents the not-so-subtle winks and nods Nucky gives during conversations to his impending death and shadowy, background lifestyle. Commodore wants to go out on top, the way things used to be, and he's abusing the other two's resentment over Nucky's actions to get there. In their minds, he's the only person with more money and influence than Nucky in Atlantic City. Which was evidenced in this episode by his pull with the State's Attorney and allusions to Philly and New York.

Jimmy probably also has some daddy issues.

>..the whole Klan thing was tripped out, and sad that people
>could get away with BS like that...

I really hope a lot happens with this, it seemed like too much of a focal point of the middle of the episode for it to just fade away over the last fifteen minutes.

>...the lil boy killed me gettin ready for the whuppin....he
>was like, "i know what 'talk' REALLY means...this is the
>bullshit..."

yea but I was kind of disappointed with Nucky for taking the money way out. Not because it was out of character, it just seemed like one of the rare copout, predictable moments this show's had (for me, anyway). Especially with the arrest coming right after and missing the movie.

  

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18. "RE: i gotta rewatch season one...cause uh...."
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>>...i really don't get why ANYONE on the "nucky Revenge
>Squad"
>>trusts one another...one guy is practically Nucky's son, the
>>other IS Nuck's brother, and the third is a guy who mentored
>>him....all three barely cared for each other over the
>>years...
>
>
>Jimmy felt like an errand boy for Nucky, and like he was never
>going to be more than a hired man. Remember, early in the
>season he was fired for his entrepreneurial efforts (robbing
>that shipment from the NY guy, can't remember his name for
>some reason) and had to run off to Chicago, where he met
>Capone and started to make a name for himself. Similarly, his
>brother felt that he wasn't someone who deserved to be
>manipulated by Nucky the way that he was, what with being
>deseated from the Sheriff's chair only to be reinstated for
>political means, which Nucky intended as an act of brotherly
>love but Eli took as an act of charity. The Commodore, I can't
>remember his beef EXACTLY, but I do know that he resents the
>not-so-subtle winks and nods Nucky gives during conversations
>to his impending death and shadowy, background lifestyle.
>Commodore wants to go out on top, the way things used to be,
>and he's abusing the other two's resentment over Nucky's
>actions to get there. In their minds, he's the only person
>with more money and influence than Nucky in Atlantic City.
>Which was evidenced in this episode by his pull with the
>State's Attorney and allusions to Philly and New York.
>
>Jimmy probably also has some daddy issues.
>
oh i get why the're upset with Nucky, but not why they'd ever trust each other...

>>...the lil boy killed me gettin ready for the whuppin....he
>>was like, "i know what 'talk' REALLY means...this is the
>>bullshit..."
>
>yea but I was kind of disappointed with Nucky for taking the
>money way out. Not because it was out of character, it just
>seemed like one of the rare copout, predictable moments this
>show's had (for me, anyway). Especially with the arrest coming
>right after and missing the movie.
>
...i thought of the money thing as Nucky just feeling sorry for the kid...that lil boy is used to his dad being rough on him, so Nuck's approach had to shock the lil guy..and Nucky already has a soft spot for the lil boy...

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12. "Might be the best-looking show on Television"
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In that early montage the shot of the Commodore jousting(?) in the blue light was amazing.

That being said, I was a little underwhelmed with the episode.

The restaurant raid and the Klan attack were very well done, but the rest left me a bit bored. I have complete faith that these stories will be fleshed out throughout the season, there just wasn't a lot to grab on to in tonight's episode.

I hate to say it, but MKW was hamming it up a bit in his big scene and it came off a bit forced. Chalky has a nice house though!

I'm still in awe of Michael Pitt, he is so good. Ditto for Kelly Macdonald.

The quick cut to the bouncing headboard was fucking hilarious!

  

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14. "co-sign this all to a T"
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>In that early montage the shot of the Commodore jousting(?)
>in the blue light was amazing.
>
>That being said, I was a little underwhelmed with the
>episode.
>
>The restaurant raid and the Klan attack were very well done,
>but the rest left me a bit bored. I have complete faith that
>these stories will be fleshed out throughout the season, there
>just wasn't a lot to grab on to in tonight's episode.

felt the same way, due to it's track record I'm not mad becauase I know the heat is coming but I felt for a season opener I needed a little more...

>I hate to say it, but MKW was hamming it up a bit in his big
>scene and it came off a bit forced. Chalky has a nice house
>though!

Was thinking the same thing but didn't wanna admit it. I know bashing MKW is blasphemous but he did not have me at all there, felt very forced to me. But at the same time, his slight accent and slow speaking felt authentic, esp for the time period, so not sure if it was forced or accurate, either way I didn't connect to it really

>I'm still in awe of Michael Pitt, he is so good.

pitt is the man
>
>The quick cut to the bouncing headboard was fucking
>hilarious!

great directing there...


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21. "??"
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>
>I hate to say it, but MKW was hamming it up a bit in his big
>scene and it came off a bit forced.


And that's somehow a new thing?

  

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13. "MOREHOUSE!!!"
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Good ep.

Lil' man was ready to take his beatin like a man.

I think Jimmy still has love for Nucky, despite his resentment toward him.

Eli too , for that matter.

  

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15. "3 characters people wanted a lot more of got a lot of shine"
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Chalky got a lot of burn in this ep, setting him up to be very involved going forward. Thought he was fantastic in the scene where the KKK actually raids but as stated above, a little over the top when Nucky and his brother checked in.

2face seems like they went out of there way between seasons to give him a better storyline due to his popularity. Kind of like his as just a stone cold killer side character but if they are going to go deeper, this way makes sense. I'm just curious if it leads to him resenting Jimmy. When he was at the table did he ask Jimmy about having everything because of the fact his life seemed so perfect or was he showing some distaste that he was up his wifes ass about getting him the coffee... Couldnt quite tell...

Lastly... agent van alden... Felt like his story got almost as much time as Nucky last night... Him and his wife do great scenes together showing the awkwardness of there marriage. And the look of disgust he gave his new baby momma when her lazy ass got out of bed was hilarious.

Loved the commodore's scene talking about the bear too...


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16. "Good opener, not great but good"
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IMO more Chalky White is a good thing for the show.

Jimmy is going to be torn between Biological daddy/ and Father figure all season.

The restaurant raid scene was nice, Van Alden had to play it up for the wife so she never wants to move to the big city because of the potential danger everywhere.
Also is the relationship between them awkward because they make it that way or is it an example of uptight christian marraiges of the time?

I know people didn't speak in the 3rd person a lot in the 20's but Capone rerally seemed to be struggling with George Regis (sp).

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20. "that capone scene was hilarious."
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23. "RE: Good opener, not great but good"
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>I know people didn't speak in the 3rd person a lot in the 20's
>but Capone rerally seemed to be struggling with George Regis
>(sp).

...I couldn't blame him, people referin to themselves in the 3rd is wack....i'd imagine it being hard to take dude seriously, but his boss is used to it...

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17. "Didn't recognize Uncle Junior until I saw the credits..."
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I do remember reading he's gonna have a decent supporting role this season.

Other thoughts:

- I thought the opening montage was really well done, particularly that one shot (mentioned above) with the Commodore jousting.

- The whole scene in Chicago where dude kept referring to himself in the third person was hilarious.

- As others have stated, the KKK shoot-out was excellently done, but I thought sequence juxtaposing Nucky giving speeches of support to both the Black church and the white citizens was excellently done.

- I also found it lightweight hilarious that the raid at the restaurant made Van Alden's wife all hot and bothered. I'm happy they turned out the lights though; I imagine the two of them having sex would be "I used to kiss his little winky" level awkward.

- I'm happy that it appears Rothestein and Lucciano are making a reappearnace next episode. Stulbargh is too good of an actor not to be featured regularly on the show.

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24. "Wait, which one was Uncle June?"
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26. "The guy at the Klanman's funeral"
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The guy that Nucky keeps on looking at, like he recognizes him.

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22. "Chalky"
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Some of you have already noted this, but MKW was horrible in the scene where Chalky was visited by Nucky and Eli. Some of the worst overacting I can remember on this particular show.

To be honest, I've always felt that he was one of the weakest elements to this show. Perhaps not necessarily the fault of the actor though, because they really didn't have much for him to do in season one. I'm worried though that this season they're just setting him up to play prohibition era Omar; taking on the Klan all by himself, so that everyone can comment on how 'bad ass' (ugh...) he is.

There were moments I liked this episode, in particular when he had a barrel of a gun in his face, and a small part of his rant to Nucky, when he spoke of 'his people' in Atlantic City.

I'm hoping when all is said and done, there will be more to the character then what leads me to believe he was just put on this show for fan service.

  

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25. "Yeah, I thought that seemed forced/awkward as well"
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31. "Old Timey Omar"
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I don't think he can shake Omar by playing a character like this

  

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33. "what amazes me was in Sepinwall's review he PRAISED that scene"
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even tho in every review ever he mentions omar so I think he's afraid to do anything but hang on his nuts...

glad to read on here I was in the majority thinking his acting was tough to watch that scene


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34. "he had "I'm about to cry" mouth...his face seemed totally off his emotio..."
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it really bummed me out, I never seen Omar so out of his element before. surprised they ran with a take like that.


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27. "Solid opener"
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Jimmy's mom was like 14 when she had him right? Not that that makes it any less creepy, but maybe it was immaturity?

Who do you think the Nucky Revenge Squad gets to help them out? Because no way are those three going to be able to take him down by themselves. Capone? I doubt Chalky would ever want to work with Eli.

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29. "Not sure what happened but it fizzled a bit"
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Good opening - kkk/chalky shoot out
Bait closing- nucky getting arrested


Interesting
FBI dude and wife
But annoying characters

Paz - still a very annoying character

Michael Pitt still the most interesting character
His mom?crazy
His wife is good to be on guard
Mask dude...strangely aw moment but dude has two crazies in his house
Plus dealing with his grandfather and nuckys bro
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35. "Co sign all of this"
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38. "episode 2..."
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...good episode. the lines are clearly bein' drawn in the sand.

mrs. schroder CLEARLY has nucky's back. couldn't quite figure out why ol' boy was f*ckin' wit Chalky, but he got dealt wit. some of the shit he was sayin' was funny tho'.

  

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39. "i think.."
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that the chalky jail scenes were to prove he wasn't just talking shit in the previous episode. those guys in the cell all seemed indifferent at first and shook by that dude, but as soon as they got the signal it was ON. that last kick was brutal.

good episode overall.. we know where everyone stands.. the look on Eli's face as he entered that room full of white bearded old dudes was priceless.. almost like 'wtf did i get myself into'.. what kind of an arsenal will those guys have in a war?

the new york scenes were gold too.. jimmy is easily the gulliest character on TV

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42. "nah..."
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..the chalky/brothers in jail scenes were to establish the climate in the black community at the time

chalky is a business man with pride, but a lot of people see him as a tom since he does business with white people and aspires to live lavishly. *thats why 'ol boy was keen on the fact that chalky can't read.

everyone in the cell knew the deal, and they all owe chalky appreciation/favors/respect in one form or another (basically, he's heavily connected).

things woulda been cool if ol' boy had simply left it to shits n'giggles, but he thrives on antagonizin' cats. crabs in a barrel.

he crossed the line, and chalky put 'em in his place.

that's composure...

  

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50. "that dere say, "get yo finger out my FACE!""
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40. "Great episode"
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Chalky is fucking great

Ms. Shroder (however you spell it) gave Nucky the best advise about memorizing

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41. "mrs. schroeder is a ride or die bitch."
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43. "i'm not sold on schroeder..."
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..while she very well COULD be that ride or die jawn, this looked more like her seizin' the opportunity to get closer

she's still tryin' to make up for dimin' him out last season, and she's determined never to live in poverty again

only time will tell if she's true enough to be ride or die when she realizes that nucky's an opportunist who's never gonna change...



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47. "yo, I said that shit VERBATIM last night, to my girl."
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I'm SO fucking impressed w/her. She basically torpedoed the state's case against Nuck.

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51. "mrs. schroeder is about to ride that young dude"
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she was definately digging him.

did she get the ledger and cash from when she snuck in and duped the investigators or did the stash them before the raid?

  

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54. "I just said in GD... Margaret/Irish dude = Carmela/Furio"
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63. "God I hope not. I'd rather he smash on the servent instead."
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45. "Did he fall in a pile of shoe polish?"
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Great episode.

As someone else said, I love that the lines are being clearly defined and that Nucky isn't really in the dark on any of it.

Loved Jimmy in New York, politely brushing off Luciano in front of Rothstein and then going right at him in front of Lansky.

Speaking of New York, there isn't a Boardwalk Empire review that doesn't mention the difficulty of writing a show that is part fiction/part real life. But for my money the stuff in Chicago and New York with the real life Gangsters are my favorite parts of the show.

Loved the Chalky scenes this week, his role has been greatly expanded and I'm very interested to see how it folds into the Nucky vs. Them plotline.

No Van Alden this week, so we're still left wondering where he fits into the big picture as well.

So that Irish guy is sticking around, right? Will Mrs. Schroeder have a wandering eye? Also, where have I seen that actor before?

  

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49. "Nucky tries to appease everyone but has come to realize"
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that he can't do that. What did ole girl say? You can't satisfy everyone. I see Chalky remaining allies with Nucky as it seems that the Klan is in the Commodore's pocket. This show which was interesting already is getting better by the episode.

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52. "Great line & the Irish lad is Charlie Cox/Tristan from Stardust"
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>So that Irish guy is sticking around, right? Will Mrs.
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46. "DVR Check: PBS's Prohibition (Ken Burns)"
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3-part Ken Burns doc. Runs Sun/Mon/Tues.
http://www.pbs.org/kenburns/prohibition/

I only caught the first 20 minutes or so of Part I: A Nation of Drunkards, but I think this could be a valuable companion piece to Boardwalk. If anything it just enhances how incredible the show's production design is.

Part I starts well before actual prohibition and the few minutes I saw focused mainly on the Temperance movement that we saw Mrs. Schroeder involved in early in season one.

  

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65. "pt 2 talked about George Remus..."
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...who was introduced in episode 1 of this season.

now, Remus REALLY had the game on lock. i wonder how much they're gonna use his life story for the season.

hope this ain't a spoiler alert, but he killed his wife after she got with a federal agent while he was in jail. THEN he was found not guilty by pleading insanity!

  

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53. "Didn't comment on 1st ep since it bored me & I barley watched but"
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this ep brought me back in a big way

I like the addition of Charlie Cox & I'm lookin foward to William Forsythe gettin his Philly Mob on in future eps.

  

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55. "I'm with Nucky, simply because he doesn't look like a fucking clown"
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How can anyone want to ally themselves with the Commmodore after he came out with the terrible dye job? That alone invalidates everything he believes in.

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59. "he lifted a tusk over his head, yo"
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61. "I'm saying, dude is seriously smelling his own shit now"
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Dude is in full "Napoleon Dynamite's brother" mode. Dude thinks just because he shot a bar when he was only three that he's going to be able to retake the city and get keep all the money flowing in? I don't care if he's got Uncle Junior with mutton-chops on his side, he's not going to be able get all the roads built in Atlantic City just because he once had juice in that town.

If I had to guess the income of this season (even its only after two episodes), things won't go well for Nucky for the first half of the show, but Jimmy will eventually come back to his side and they'll straighten shit out. And Eli is going prison.

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56. "so Benny = Bugsy Seigel, right?"
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i'm assuming that's why he was all randomly wacky and shit

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57. "thats how I took it"
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He was younger than all of the rest of them as well.

Last night's ep gave me hope for this show. Such a beautiful looking show with so much potential, yet somehow it misfired last season.


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58. "i wouldn't say it misfired last season"
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though it just wasn't quite as good as it should have been. i can't put my finger on what's keeping it from being one of the greatest shows ever. all the ingredients are there

  

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62. "Yeah, saying it "misfired" is too much"
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The acting on it has been great. The sole exception I can think of Jimmy's wife, but her role on the show is so relatively minor that it couldn't derail it. All the plotlines have been great too. The one small objection would be Van Alden drowning his partner, but it was certainly in character. Maybe there's just something about how everything unfolds as a whole, 'cause at least individually, the show had three episodes last season that were among the best of 2010 (the pilot, the episode where the introduced Richard "half-face" Harrow, and the episode where Chalky strangles the guy with his bare hands).

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60. "I was coming in here to post this."
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From what I recall from the movie "Bugsy," Siegel always said that Meyer Lansky practically raised him. Certainly makes sense.

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64. "Yes, he is billed as Bugsy Seigel"
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I looked it up because they spent some time on introducing him and his weird behavior so I figured he was going to be someone real.

  

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66. "Precarious motherfucker!"
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67. "nobody watched last night?"
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....i like the Irishman, he reminds of the Phantom in a "no-nonsense" kind of way...the scene between them both was great...

...i don't care about Margret's past....

...Jimmy is just...lost.....in every scene with his "family" he seems like he's conflicted, and he should be....his mom is a trip...

...Nelson finally saw the light ..sorta....he was torturing lucy in that house without even meaning to....his coldness always trips me out tho...he mighta been permanantly broken if she threw herself down those steps tho...she gives him something to look forward to...

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68. "I think Nucky's going to welcome Jimmy back"
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I can't see this whole Commodore bullshit lasting long. It wouldn't make sense for Nucky to forgive him, but he's a good earner and I'm guessing something will happen that will leave him with no choice.

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69. "Im kinda lost as to why Jimmy split with Nucky in the first place"
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Like did Nucky do something or Jimmy is just being loyal to his pops? (which one? HA!)

Jimmy mama....I hate the way Jimmy dismisses his wife when she's around

Nucky is the MAN for flipping that lobster lol he is not backing down

So the Irish dude who is working in the bar is now a new hitman of sorts for Nucky? Explain him to me again somebody?

  

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70. "Goes back to the beginning of the last season"
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Jimmy's still smarting that Nucky picked someone else instead of him to work under one of the Ward Bosses (BTW, that "someone else" is now one of the witnesses against Nucky in the states attorney's case). He's still not happy that Nucky cut him off after him and Capone robbed that liquor shipment, even if it ended up benefiting him in the long run. And towards the end of last season, he became pissed that Nucky was the one who pimped his mother out to the Commodore (hence, the convo with his mother in this episode). But he's mostly upset that he thinks Nucky doesn't respect him, even though he's his "son."

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75. "The Irish guy was muscle for the Irish Liberation guys"
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and was left behind by that crew as a contact in the Americas (they were returning to Ireland to prepare for the civil war)

Nucky was forced to take him on as a political favor but he offered himself as more useful than that and went to the liquor deal to prove it

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80. "so when he came to make sure the house was 'ready' or 'safe'"
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or whatever, he was still a part of the old Irish ppl? I think that's what threw me off the whole scene in episode 2 with him and Margaret and him checking the house or whatever

  

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81. "RE: so when he came to make sure the house was 'ready' or 'safe'"
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>or whatever, he was still a part of the old Irish ppl? I
>think that's what threw me off the whole scene in episode 2
>with him and Margaret and him checking the house or whatever

Yup. IRA guys have always been paranoid, lol.

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82. "It's an Oedipal storyline - Coming of age bullshit"
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He's gonna have to decide which one of his fathers to destroy and which one to emulate. It'll turn out to be Nuck.

Secondarily - I LOVE the line Nuck gave Jimmy. "I KEEP my promises."

Damn.

There was SO much there!!!

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71. "How did Jimmy end up with *both* of his parents being pedos?"
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Dude has the worst luck ever.

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72. "Am I supposed to give a fuck about Nucky?"
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Because I don't. The show is obviously well-made, so I keep watching in hopes that it will turn a corner, but at this point I'm ready to acknowledge that it is what it is: a straight-forward, middle-of-the-road gangster show about shitty people. I don't feel a strong connection to any of them. Jimmy is obviously the best character and one the audience probably cares about the most, but even that relationship is shaky.

I just don't care about Nucky, and it's HIS show. Maybe I'm in the minority on that. I cared deeply about Tony Soprano. I cared deeply about many of the characters on the Wire (Just *thinking* of the expression that Bodie flashes right when he knows he's about to die can make me cry.) I don't feel that way about ANY of the characters on this show - not even close. I was willing to give it the benefit of the doubt, but three episodes in to this seasons, I don't think I'm going to change my opinion.

Is the show even trying to say anything? Am I so disenfranchised with it that I'm missing it's message? "Prohibition" doesn't work, politicians were ultra corrupt, law enforcement officers are holier-than-thou hypocrites? Am I so spoiled by Breaking Bad, Sopranos, Mad Men, The Wire, and Treme that I feel like shows HAVE to have something to say? Shit, I even feel like Curb and Louie have more to say that this show...

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73. "I keep watching so I think I care lol"
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I love the characters for their flaws more than anything. Like these are some no bullshit, lying, cheating, killing mofos but at the same time they all have internal shit going on.

Margaret is still sleeping with tne man who basically killed her husband, Jimmy (that which one line was so great when Angie asked aout his dad) is still in the shadows, Harrow....MAN I feel for him, Eli dont know what the hell he doin, the Commodore lmao he's clearly off his rocker.

I just like it ya know? These characters aren't necessarily to be liked as much as respected? Maybe that's just my opinion...

  

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74. "i like them all..."
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....nobody's one note...i understand everyone's motivations, not matter how silly they may be...these are very multidimentional, flawed people trying to do the right thing for themselves and their families....i think that's the real thing i like abou the show...i understand where they're all coming from and it makes me root for many of them...

....do i want Nuck to win? yes, cause he's the best guy to lead right now, and he really isn't a bad guy...same goes for Chalky....the only characters that have a part in a bigger storyline i wanna see punished are Eli and the Commodore....

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76. "what the above said, plus it's just good TV"
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well acted, well designed

like you I'm not really in anyone's corner, I just enjoy watching them do their shit overall


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78. "Completely disagree..."
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This show is starting to fire on all cylinders right now.

The classic themes of America's growing pains are all there.

Nucky is certainly the glue that holds the show together, and I agree that he isn't the most sympathetic (and I'm not entirely sure he's supposed to be), but he's really just a window into this time and place. I think he'll ultimately become a decaying symbol of the past. The real meat in the show, at least for me, comes from the younger generation, starting with Jimmy and Margaret.

Jimmy's line this week reflecting on the possibility of a simpler life (like Al's Dad, the barber) really hit home. Many of Boardwalk's characters are chugging forward full steam ahead in the name of some form of progress without taking the time to turn back and look at the destruction in their wake. I think that's an inherently American theme and I think that you can find it as a central piece to nearly all of the great recent television dramas (Sopranos, Mad Men, Wire, Breaking Bad).

  

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83. "Boom. My favorite character has become Margaret."
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In season one it was Jimmy. But her character has grown so much since the first season. She went from this simple teetotaling prohibitionist with a shitty degenerate husband to a lady of the house of one of the most powerful men in AC. Then we learn in the latest episode that she has somewhat of sordid past. I'm hoping we learn more about what she was running from in Ireland.

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107. "you're correct"
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everything is technically correct or well done. very little is emotionally stirring.

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77. "lol @ anyone bein' impatient with this series..."
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..the pacing is incredible

the info is always there, but if you blink, you miss a TON

and unlike most shows, they don't repeat themselves (becomin' redundant)

keep up...


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79. "another really good episode"
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Michael Pitt steals the show yet again. Hell, as far as I'm concerned, this is his show now. Jimmy's story was heartbreaking this week and I really empathized with his wish to drop it all and become a barber.

That scene with Jimmy and his wife has to be one of the best self-reflective drunk moments I've ever seen, Pitt really nailed the body language without going into full I'M DRUNK mode. Right before the cut it looked like he accidentally smelled his hand and was surprised by it, then he just stares at his fingers for a moment...a weird and funny moment to cap off a pretty sad scene.

Margaret's story hasn't totally clicked for me, but I'm interested to see where it goes. I really liked her interaction with the maids, she's clearly still very conflicted over her lot in life.

I even liked Van Alden's story this week, mostly for the quick line about how his parents cut off all ties with his aunt after she took him to a Christmas pageant in 1895. It was a quick reminder of how f'd up this guy's life has been. The record player was a really nice moment as well. Shannon played that beautifully, you could feel him smiling but he never actually did.

  

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84. "this show is GREAT and it keeps getting better"
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the first season set a lot of things up and this one is just taking that and rolling. as someone said above, they really are pacing this well. i love everything about it right now. the new irish dude, looks like he'll be fun to watch.

  

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85. "Lost watching. I think I missed a episode last season."
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86. "This show is an atmospheric think piece"
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I love it and hate it every episode I watch. It's directed amazingly, written competently, and the acting is phenomenal. Yet, I watch it and can see everyone involved jerking themselves off. I think that's why I think it's an interesting, compelling show.... but if you give me five minutes where I'm supposed to give a shit about Paz de la Huerta contemplating throwing herself down a flight of stairs, I'm only gonna relate in that the show is at that moment making me want to do the same.

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87. "episode 4..."
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...another good episode.

-- Chalky seem to be comin' apart a bit. those women put the bum rush on him. he ain't know what to do. it really got to him. the dinner scene, man...u know it's bad when a man feel he ain't welcomed in his own home.

-- now that their warehouse is done, wonder what Jimmy & the crew gon' do now? wonder if he took the $$$$ from the butcher?

-- man, Gillian was smackin' the dog shit outta the Commodore! LMAO! "do you remember that?" *SMACK* "i asked you a question!" SMACK SMACK SMACK SMACK SMACK. that shit was outta control! LMAO

-- i'm starting not to like Mrs. Schroeder. she too f*ckin' sneaky. this goes back to last season with how she was able to reconcile being a prohibitionist and her husband bein' killed by the same guy she's now living with...she ain't right. all the charm and grace she try to portray...i ain't buyin' it.

-- yo, any agent that works with Van Alden gon' get f*cked up or killed. some how, i think he gon' try to spin this on the two agents as if THEY were on the take. if not, he gon' after answer some questions.

...lookin' forward to next week.

  

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88. "RE: episode 4..."
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>...another good episode.
>
>-- Chalky seem to be comin' apart a bit. those women put the
>bum rush on him. he ain't know what to do. it really got to
>him. the dinner scene, man...u know it's bad when a man feel
>he ain't welcomed in his own home.
>
..i think it's the appearance of control and the truth that right now he's NOT in control....he can't get what he wants done done...it culminates when he asks his wife to make one meal and she makes another and tries to play like it's not good enough...people been tryin to play Chalky all season, he finally really startin to lose his cool about it all...i just wanna see how he gets his revenge on the klansmen, cause he WILL be gettin it...

>-- now that their warehouse is done, wonder what Jimmy & the
>crew gon' do now? wonder if he took the $$$$ from the
>butcher?
>
i'm surprised they left the spot so badly guarded...

>-- man, Gillian was smackin' the dog shit outta the Commodore!
>LMAO! "do you remember that?" *SMACK* "i asked you a
>question!" SMACK SMACK SMACK SMACK SMACK. that shit was outta
>control! LMAO
>
..i alwas thought she poisoned the Commodore last year, and i was wondering why she seemed to fogive ole boy for the decades he fucked her and her son over...turns out she don't care bout NOBODY cept her son and grandson....and that makes perfect sense...

>-- i'm starting not to like Mrs. Schroeder. she too f*ckin'
>sneaky. this goes back to last season with how she was able to
>reconcile being a prohibitionist and her husband bein' killed
>by the same guy she's now living with...she ain't right. all
>the charm and grace she try to portray...i ain't buyin' it.
>
...i can't blame her for keeping an emergency fund....she tripped me out with how she gave the bonuses tho....

>-- yo, any agent that works with Van Alden gon' get f*cked up
>or killed. some how, i think he gon' try to spin this on the
>two agents as if THEY were on the take. if not, he gon' after
>answer some questions.
>
...yeah this should put Van Alden on a sorta warpath for a min....and i like that...

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95. "yup. U see the look on Chalky face when Nuk said..."
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"be a good BOY"

It was burnin him up. Between that, his peeps questioning him, his wife not making what he wanted for dinner, & his son playing him when the daughter asked to have her homework checked... Chalky feelin some kinda way...

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104. "RE: yup. U see the look on Chalky face when Nuk said..."
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>Chalky feelin some kinda way...

lol! ya think?

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97. "RE: episode 4..."
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> this goes back to last season with how she was able to
>reconcile being a prohibitionist and her husband bein' killed
>by the same guy she's now living with...she ain't right. all
>the charm and grace she try to portray...i ain't buyin' it.

You mena the guy who beat the ever loving shit out of her? Who beat the unborn child out of her? Who terrorized their tiny children and drank away all the money they had?

That's the guy she's supposed to carry a symbolic torch for? Seriously we saw ZERO evidence of him being nice to any one of them.

And maybe his actions of brutality all hopped up on liquor, no to mention the fact that the girl comes form fucking IRELAND, don't you think maybe her grudge against alcohol came from a s specific place. Like it was her only chance of saving her life?

  

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98. "she be playin' games..."
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...ion't like the games she be playin'. she out for self. yeah, her husband was a motherf*cker toward her, but ion't even think she wanted him killed. she wanted him to ease up. be a bit less prideful.

still, the way she partnered with the mofo who had him killed is foul! trynna act holier than thou' and sh*t...whatever.

  

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89. "Finally, we get some more info on Richard"
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Jack Huston played that scene perfectly. I feel like every actor in this series gets better with each episode. But anyways, I'm wondering how Richard's friendship will grow with Angela, if at all. I think the point of their scene together was to show how Angela starves for some inspiration, not only artistically but for some emotional attachment. Then comes Richard with this tragic history of his relationship with his sister and she's blown away. He's willing to be vulnerable (telling the story and taking off his mask, literally and figuratively, something Jimmy's far from ever doing for Angela.

There's plenty of great stories going on in this series but the Darmody household has always been a favorite of mine and Richard being thrown in the mix should be pretty interesting. Does anyone else have any other insights into the scene? How they may possibly develop this storyline.

  

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90. "This may have been the best episode of the entire season so far..."
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I love this show but, as some people have mentioned,
it is usually enjoyed with a sense of detachment from
most of the major characters. Tonight was one of the
few episodes where I felt a connection to all the
characters. From Chalky grappling with the class
conflict within his own family (added to the lack
of power he feels over this entire Klan situation),
Margaret emotionally divesting herself from Nucky while
taking the path of self-preservation, Richard opening
up to Jimmy's wife to Jimmy's mom rightfully releasing
her own demons on the Commodore, the goal of this
episode seemed to be to finally strip the characters
of all their lavish window dressings and expose their
vulnerabilities as emotionally conflicted human beings.

Chalky's retort to Nucky, "you think this is all about
money?!" pretty much captures what this episode was
trying to do overall. On some level, money, masks,
and various other pretensions have only served as a
cover for each characters' hardships, insecurities and
injustices that they have had to endure. It seems Richard is
the only character who's pain, oddly enough, is most
transparent. It was a pretty brilliant episode and should
set up a pretty amazing remainder of the season.

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102. "good shit here, man"
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>Chalky's retort to Nucky, "you think this is all about
>money?!" pretty much captures what this episode was
>trying to do overall. On some level, money, masks,
>and various other pretensions have only served as a
>cover for each characters' hardships, insecurities and
>injustices that they have had to endure. It seems Richard is
>the only character who's pain, oddly enough, is most
>transparent. It was a pretty brilliant episode and should
>set up a pretty amazing remainder of the season.

  

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115. "Thanks man. I'm just glad that they are finally tapping into their human..."
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I've loved the show up to this point, but it could
only get so far on the flashiness of historical
characters and set design alone. It's about time
the substance came pouring in. In fact, that's
why I've always loved Van Alden's scenes. His
actions always evoke an emotional response.

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91. "I was like why would Nucky want his own case to go federal"
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until I remembered he basically owned the USAG. Smart lawyering.

I can't see how Jimmy comes out on top. He doesn't have the connections Commodore had, and all of those ward bosses only joined the team because they thought it was a sure thing. If there's any doubt, they're going to be hesitant. And Nucky's got a leg up on him in the race for Philly.

Poor Chalky, he has terrible issues with his own family and the community is realizing that he's not the protector they thought he was. And Nuck's not going to make any kind of big move against the KKK.

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92. "Angela & Richard have what each other want"
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Angela is starving for attention and affection and desire. Jimmy doesn't give it to her.

Richard is starving for attention and affection and desire. Nobody gives it to him.

Im not saying this goes anywhere substantial in terms of running away together, but I would not be shocked to see a potential kiss at some point. Something very tender.

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Metal Face
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94. "richard seems too loyal to do that"
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despite being a killer he seems like he has a sense of ethics. she might make an advance but i can see him stopping her out of respect to jimmy.

  

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96. "i disagree..."
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>Angela is starving for attention and affection and desire.
>Jimmy doesn't give it to her.
>
>Richard is starving for attention and affection and desire.
>Nobody gives it to him.
>
>Im not saying this goes anywhere substantial in terms of
>running away together, but I would not be shocked to see a
>potential kiss at some point. Something very tender.

while i agree they're both longing for somethin' they don't have, i don't think its attention

angela wants to be appreciated and respected/recognized for her talent in art, as well as her dreams.

richard actually shuns attention (for obvious reasons), but just wants people to see beyond his physical deformity.

no one ever talks to them...


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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101. "yeah, this"
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>angela wants to be appreciated and respected/recognized for
>her talent in art, as well as her dreams.
>
>richard actually shuns attention (for obvious reasons), but
>just wants people to see beyond his physical deformity.
>
>no one ever talks to them...

they both have different brands of emptiness/loneliness

  

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93. "I went from not liking Eli, to HATING his bitch-ass."
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Plus, although I LIKE Jimmy, he's a dumb mfer for going against Nucky. Man, you're young, and making more money than most WAY more. Have a coke and smile, and STFU.

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99. "eli's been a fucking baby since last season"
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without nucky he'd be working in a warehouse or some shit

  

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100. "i'm really hating Margaret now"
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i had a little respect for her when she got that ledger back, but now she's just coming off as a shitty person. last week when she thought she was losing everything, she started hanging with the servants, then turned into an entitled cunt when she saw nucky got his mojo back

now she's shortchanging the staff so she can stockpile money like the chick with the fat guy from last season

plus she's salty because the IRA guy ain't into her

sometimes i can empathize with characters i don't like, but i'm just not getting her at all

  

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103. "Yeah, I'm under the impression that we still don't know her full story."
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We know she's living life under an alias but we're not
quite sure what kind of dark past she really comes from.
Certain clues like her indifference towards anything
related to Irish causes and her savvy ability to hustle
cops to get Nucky's ledger tells me she's been around
the block and is more street smart than she leads on.
I mean, come on, she basically shrugged her shoulders
when it came to the death of her pos husband (pos or
not, you gotta feel some way about it) and stuck with
Nucky when he was both a prohibitionist and a runner of
hooch. All this with very little questions asked. Yeah,
I'm pretty certain her past has trained her well for
all of this.

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106. "she's a less interesting Carmella"
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aside from her one shining moment with the ledger, every scene has been covered ground repeated to us over and over.

we get it. take it somewhere or drop it.

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113. "pretty much. carm was fleshed out"
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so even with how hypocritical/entitled/delusional she could be, we could find ourselves feeling for her as a wife and mother, and sometimes taking her side

maggie's all over the place. they gave us a good reason to feel for her early on, but everything they're trying to do to make her more interesting or complex is falling flat so far. i'm not sure how finding out she has some secret past is gonna help.

  

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109. "Yeah, I don't get the character"
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Like, later on in S1 one of the 'kept' girls warned her to keep some money on the side, so in that case I don't mind her hoarding Nuck's money.

But it's weird to see how she went from being real altruistic in the first season and turn into a mediocre schemer this one, especially since they juxaposition it against the help. I just feel that Margret in season 1 would have fought for Nuck for a bigger raise* for em...in season 2 she's mean and stealing their money and only a year has passed (hell, probably even less as far as her and nucks relationship timeline goes).

And whats infuriating about it is that she STILL gives him sideeye for how he makes his money, aka shipping in hoes for votes. Makes no sense.

  

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105. "Chalky White is just dreadful"
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Michael K. Williams has given him one look -- the everlasting stink face -- and his Omar-isms are just laughable. the symbolism was literally dripping out of my TV when they zoomed out of the "house" and showed him in the "field" last episode. way to reinforce the dinner table scene in the most ridiculous way possible.

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117. "True"
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>Michael K. Williams has given him one look -- the everlasting
>stink face -- and his Omar-isms are just laughable. the
>symbolism was literally dripping out of my TV when they zoomed
>out of the "house" and showed him in the "field" last episode.
>way to reinforce the dinner table scene in the most ridiculous
>way possible.

  

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125. "he was so awesome in season 1...not sure what happened"
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135. "yeah, just waiting for Chalky to drop the shotgun/briefcase line"
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character isn't doing it for me.
neither is Michael K

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108. "bah."
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caught back up to the most recent episode and feel like I'm reliving the flaws of S1 all over again (minus the original novelty).

- Jimmy, Van Alden and Rothstein remain phenomenal.

- Gretchen Mol has been acting her ass off as Jimmy's mom. the way she flips between down-ass bitch / seductress / incestuous / vulnerable, and keeps it believable, is incredible. by far the most compelling and well-written female on the show (and a weak bunch that is).

- Half-face's portrait sitting was perhaps the best scene in the entire series. him and a few other supporting characters (Capone) have carried this show, and I'm hoping Charlie Cox and William Forsythe can contribute in the same way.

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110. "What happened to Mol?"
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She was the "it" girl around the time of Rounders and since nothing much from her till now.

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111. "I really like William Forsythe"
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In pretty much every role I have seen him in, he has been great.
I hope this character is plays a larger part in the remainder of the season. Jimmy has his money, and now has no hooch to deliver. His enemy (Waxy?) has Nucky's shipment coming in with Lucky & Meyer as transport protection. I assume Capone is still in NY also. This could get good.

Also has it been established that the kid Benny that works for Meyer/Lucky, is Bugsy Siegel?





I'm hoping Charlie Cox
>and William Forsythe can contribute in the same way.

...and if you listen hard enough I say some things - Jeezy

  

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119. "RE: I really like William Forsythe"
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>Also has it been established that the kid Benny that works for
>Meyer/Lucky, is Bugsy Siegel?


that has been established, yes...

whoever that actor kid must love his life on Sunday nights now, has really good roles in this and How To Make It In America

>


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112. "iont know about mol"
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she drifts between extremes of really good acting (the last scene with the commodore, prolly her best so far)
and sounding like she's straight up reciting lines with no emotion
ass and titties don't hurt, tho. ever.

  

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114. "That last scene had me all sorts of conflicted"
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Dude raped her when she was just a child but at the same time, she was smacking the shit out of a paralyzed old man. I wasn't sure who I should feel bad for.

And I think Nucky's gonna regret not doing right by Chalky. He's a proud man that's getting disrespected from every angle, he's gonna snap soon and he can't very well snap on his family or a bunch of women.

  

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116. "really? i didn't feel an ounce of pity for that old fuck"
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he raped a little girl, and likely more than one. she even went into detail how disgustingly it went down. he got off easy with a few slaps. she should torture him down to his last breath

  

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118. "I'm probably just too damn empathetic"
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I see somebody suffering, I feel bad for them, even if it is the bad guy.

  

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120. "co-sign"
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aint nobody feeling sympathetic for that old piece of shit... she needs to find that bears cub all grown and bring him in and let him devour that old perv


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137. "yep"
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121. "for a milli second...."
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when I saw the look of shock & fear on his face I ALMOST felt sorry for him...then I though about what he did....eff him.

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122. "RE: That last scene had me all sorts of conflicted"
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>Dude raped her when she was just a child but at the same
>time, she was smacking the shit out of a paralyzed old man. I
>wasn't sure who I should feel bad for.

I don't feel sorry for him, but I think it's pretty clear the reason she slapped him is because he is currently in the state he's in and she realizes she her plan to get ahead socially is squandered because the Commodore had all the political connections to ruin Nucky. Was vindictive on her part, but given her history, I can't say I blame her for her reaction.

  

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Metal Face
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123. "She's not a sympathetic figure either"
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she's manipulative and "loves" her son too much.

  

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124. "Her overall character isn't meant to be sympathetic..."
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but in that particular scene it's hard not to feel for her.

  

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126. "but at least we have a sense of why she is the way she is"
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i get her more than i get margaret

  

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127. "Why did you put love in quotation marks?"
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128. ""i used to kiss him on his weiner""
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129. "I understand their relationship is off kilter"
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but I'm curious if the original poster thinks she doesn't love him and is including what he thinks are her manipulative ways in with her relationship with her son.

  

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130. "I disagree."
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We are supposed to understand that she has had an
incredibly fucked up life/upbringing.

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131. "think of it this way"
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if booze = drugs then
then she = porn star/stripper
and the world is littered with fucked up chicks in that realm

chosen as a concubine
raped
had a kid 13-14
and is a showgirl/stripper

man wasn't no one counseling her.
there's no "take back the night"
no "slut walk"

she's super fucked up with no mechanism to help her deal with her issues.

hurt people hurt people.
so her hurting him in his time of vulnerability makes perfect sense.

his look of fear actually made me laugh.

like u think u aint had THAT coming from that batshit crazy broad? youse a damn fool.

  

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132. "^^A+"
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I'd even go so far as to say that slapping the shit out
of dude was the most sane thing she's done on the show.

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133. "and how she started painting the picture as some romantic tryst"
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that scene really had me going all kinds of ways emotionally

one of the best of the series so far


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134. "her eyes were scary as hell when she switched her mood.."
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that was some great acting

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136. "That was fucking EPIC"
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Like, seriously, I don't know where to start. Best episode of the season by far (and the season's been pretty damn good). Sometimes it felt like one of those epic Sopranos episodes (certainly the stuff in the forest evoked "Pine Barrens"). But regardless, that was excellent.

So many great scenes: the memorial, Jimmy and Eli meeting with the city's elders, Jimmy and his mom's conversation, everything with Harrow in the woods, Eli and Nucky's fist-fight, the aftermath with Eli at home. And, of course, the gulliness factor got jacked up to 20 when Jimmy and Richard paid dude a visit at home. "I'm a soldier." So fucking ill.

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138. "!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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that was a beautifully lit final scene

ill have to come back later i need to sleep
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139. "Cinematography 101"
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140. "and who are you?"
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151. "snob."
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don't listen. I agree that it looked good, but a lil overdone, IMO.

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153. "Ah ok, opinion discounted then"
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It was overdone but in a good way
Very bdwy the whole episode was over the top the lighting reflected the episode
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141. "*spoilers*"
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that was a slow windup with the opening
christopher mcdonald always plays an douchebag so well

then the setup from the crack in the face (oh boy thats going to come back hard)
tension from the attempted suicide in the woods (most sympathetic character)
that ball started rolling with the fight in the greenhouse (go margaret with the shotgun...shells though?...eli is an idiot)
and then again Eli is an idiot (how the hell do you accidentally kill someone?)
would you fight for me? (oh that poor man)
and the very next scene a reminder of what richard will do for love
=(
that maid is no surprise but jebus margaret must be regretting revealing anything to that fool
and oh nucky the fools he has to entertain and deal with
and that final scene of the burial in the fields!

great episode!

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142. "FUCK"
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Great, ep, through and through. I tell you what tho, Jimmy better not EVER cross Richard. Dear lord jesus the hell that man would unleash on him if he ever felt betrayed by him. At this point, Jimmy and his family is all that man has...

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143. "the scene in the woods with richard..."
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actually had me saying "no" out loud over and over again when he had the gun in his mouth. i was actually talking to my television. i can't remember the last time something struck me so hard. like seriously i was all ready to cry like a little baby and shit.

great great great episode. they really stepped it up one helluva notch last nite.


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144. "its funny....it moved me too....but I was saying Do It!"
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I just feel sorry for dude. And running with Jimmy is never gonna fill his void. Im glad he didnt though. But for a sec there I was like "I aint mad a ya...do what ya gotta do."

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146. "His pain is great tv, TALK HIM OFF THE LEDGE!"
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>I just feel sorry for dude. And running with Jimmy is never
>gonna fill his void. Im glad he didnt though. But for a sec
>there I was like "I aint mad a ya...do what ya gotta do."

  

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147. "co-sign!!!! oh my god, i was trembling"
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like "please richard, listen to dan savage!!!"

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148. "lol"
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149. "i was definitely cringing and had a screw face..."
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that was painful to watch for a moment.

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145. "lmao man they SCALPED somebody. that's incredible"
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I hate Jimmy's mom. Like for real hate her.

Margie don't know what she got herself into. Stankin ass.

Jimmy isn't going down without a fight. Eli is a man without a country (see what I did there?)

Eli has lost his mind smh Nucky was doing too much asking him to kiss his feet though.

I missed Chalky this week... I almost thought he was gonna be the one to take out the old guy the way they were panning in from the window

  

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166. "sheeeeiiiiidddddttttttttt"
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>I hate Jimmy's mom. Like for real hate her.
>
>Margie don't know what she got herself into. Stankin ass.
>
>Jimmy isn't going down without a fight. Eli is a man without a
>country (see what I did there?)
>
>Eli has lost his mind smh Nucky was doing too much asking him
>to kiss his feet though.

After ALL Nuck did? For their shitty-assed dad, for Eli. Eli would be sweeping the boardwalk if it wasn't fur Nuck. Eli TURNED on him. Then he shows up, crying like a fucking baby, cuz he ain't man enough to deal w/the consequences of his actions and I'm supposed to feel sorry for him? Fuck him. His bitch-ass can twist in the wind.
>

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150. "CAN'T WAIT (for next week)"
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GAWDAMN

Also, Dick Cheney doesn't like Boardwalk Empire at all, apparently (http://thisrecording.com/today/2011/10/17/in-which-we-never-rely-on-the-promises-of-drunkards.html)

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155. "Wow, Dick Cheney is still a dick at EVERYTHING"
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" In order to make Paz de la Huerta sympathetic, the writers of Boardwalk Empire put a bun in her oven, forced her to weep for an entire sixty minutes and had her threaten to throw her gigantic pregnant body down a flight of stairs. I still didn't give a shit. As for the woman formerly known as Gretchen Mol, she wouldn't be sympathetic if she was falling from the World Trade Center."

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168. "His comment about the only person he knows who watches BE"
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having stroke was similarly scumbagian. Dude really is just an unrepentant asshole. He's cartoonishly evil.

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152. "Jimmy is now my LEAST favorite character"
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he just doesn't know how to play his position. he never has. if he was willing to be nucky's muscle he'd be set. he's letting his mom manipulate him and now he's in too deep. when he got popped by the dude in the wheel chair he hit his low point. 70k in the hole and the the butcher in philly ain't get his product. even eli was smart enough to see that nucky's mouth and money trumps jimmy's muscle. he's lucky harrow is holding him down. jimmy is a liability.

and am i the only one that wanted the dog to go with richard?

  

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154. "I wanted the dog to o w/ richard"
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This episode definitely had me reflecting on jimmys brashness

I blew it off as him being too young
But he definitely made stupid decisions
Army instead of school
Jumping ahead of mucky instead or learning the business
And then partnering with his mom and dad
He of all people knew this was a bad idea
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156. "i disagree with all of that except the dog going with richard"
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nuck's been disrespectful jimmy from the jump, and always treating him like he owes him everything (same way nuck is with everyone). i'm not saying jimmy should have rolled with the commodore, but i get how he'd want to prove himself

he's obviously not fit to run shit, but i can see why he's so conflicted

he's still one of my favorites

  

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157. "yup nuck treats everybody like shit..."
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plus in season 1 when Jimmy asked him for a shot Nucky told him "its America...who's stopping you?". not to say that he should've gone against Nuck in an all out war but he basically pushed him to go out on his own.

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159. "That's just tough love"
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nucky wanted jimmy to learn first. jimmy wanted to be a boss but he wasn't ready. nucky probably got the same treatment from the commodore but waited his turn.

  

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160. "commodore didn't love nucky though"
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or anyone. nuck might care about jimmy to a degree but he's not treating him that way out of love, or because he wants to prepare him for shit. nucky's just an asshole. just like the commodore.

  

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164. "i disagree about jimmy wanting to be a boss..."
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he just wanted a shot at doing more than driving dude around. he would've gladly been a soldier for Nuck if he actually gave him important tasks to perform.

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169. "Jimmy DOES owe Nuck everything."
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When the commodore got bored with his mom Nucky took care of the bills. Nucky took Jimmy fishing/hunting. Nucky pulled strings and paid his way thru Princeton.

And when Jimmy through that HUGE opportunity away to go to the army, and came home with a limp and no prospects Nucky got him a job.

Jimmy's problem is he has a better opinion of himself than he's earned, probably because his moms been suckin his dick (figuratively and POSSIBLy literally) his whole life.

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171. "Nucky expects him to be his bitch for life in return"
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he does the same shit with Chalky. Whenever he feels people he hooked up are out of line, he'll throw it in their face how they'd be nothing without him. Nucky constantly being on some kiss the ring shit undercuts the good he does for people

Its not like Jimmy hasn't killed for him already

  

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176. "I don't know about 'for life' but yeah.... he wants him to play his part..."
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Some folks would call that paying your dues tho....

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158. "i like how nucky treats his "family""
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...he hasn't seen his dad at all this season...

...he says "fuck you" to Eli when Eli comes, hat in hand, to say he was wrong...

...he doen't thank Margret for savin his ass...AGAIN...

...i don't think he EVER thanks his manservant for anything..

...he complains about Jimmy like a dissapointed father (this is probably the most interesting), and says fuck that kid, the Commodore and that whore....

...i can't blame him for how he feels about any of them other than his manservant and Margret, but if you think about the fact that with Nucky, everything is about money and power, but for everyone else it isn't, things make alot more sense in regard to how he acts towards everyone....i think nuck truly belives that everyone in his life would fuck him over if he wasn't who he is...

...he really doesn't let anyone in, and it's funny cause he's trying wit Margret and the kids but doesn't know how....

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161. "I think THIS is the key to Nuck....."
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>i think nuck truly
>belives that everyone in his life would fuck him over if he
>wasn't who he is...
>

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162. "Yup"
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And he's not exactly wrong

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163. "that's the key and they still be trying to fuck him over lol"
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Nucky is a great character. People can feel how they want to feel about him but that's a GREAT character

  

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165. "He has no real relationships"
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everyone works for him, with him, or wants something from him.

  

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170. "Nah, there's real affection & regard btwn him and his manservant."
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With Nucky, you gotta earn it, and nobody really has yet, altho I think Margaret is close.

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172. "and even margaret is"
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putting money away for that rainy day
she feels this shit is about to hit the fan
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175. "yep, and honestly, I can't blame her."
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Nucky ain't missing it and she DOES have to worry about her family.

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180. "agreed"
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167. "Richard Harrow to the rescue again."
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the forest scenes were chilling and beautiful, with the woodsmen adding a perfect change of pace (it's nice to hear well-written banter, being that so much dialogue is tied up advancing the plot). these moments keep me watching.

less interesting, is the life of Fredo Thompson. it would have been better if they introduced his family relationships (clichéd as they may be) last season, before we formed a stronger opinion on him. as it is, I don't feel compelled by his story arc, or the fact he killed one of Nucky's political puppets (seriously, why even try and remember all the cronies who meet behind closed doors? it's a revolving group of forgettable bit characters).

I dunno. I didn't see this as a turning point in the series, or even one of the best episodes. hope there's less about Nucky's prolonged hearing (the lack of tension is gripping!) and more appearances by stronger cast members next week.

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173. "yep"
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(seriously, why even try and remember all the cronies who meet behind closed doors? it's a revolving group of forgettable bit characters).

its cronie 1, 2 and 3
sometimes 4, 5 and 6
almost overlooked christopher mcdonald


so many damn hands are in the pot
working a 9-5 seems safer
same shit of unless you at the top
there not much money
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174. "yeah i couldnt remember who he was or why he's important..."
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i mean i get that what Eli did was bad but there's no real weight to it since we don't even really know who this guy is...i can't keep all them fools straight.

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177. "that was the mayor."
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178. "I don't think that was the Mayor"
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The Mayor has always been on Nucky's side (he was the only person who showed up when Nucky called everyone to his office in City Hall). The MAyor wouldn't be panicking if the Commodore had a stroke. Eli killed one of the other random ward bosses.

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179. "he was the mayor in season 1, who was deseated on the same power play"
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that made Eli resent Nucky for playing with his career like it was inconsequential

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181. "DONKEY KONG"
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182. "i like the pace and details given for this series..."
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..while i understand that most people would do away with small details about anyone outside of the main cast, i think that gives a much better hue.

the dialogue has a nice balance of banter, and its just enough to move the story forward without overshadowing the action

*kudos to kelly macdonald for finally givin' some grit to margaret schroeder. its nice to see the evolution of the soon to be "woman you love to hate"...


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183. "Nucky was golden in this ep. 1 of Buscemi's best jobs so far"
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had some funny 1 liners, when he told dude from Philly to go fuck himself and when the prosecutor said something about catching his drift and Nucky was like I have no idea actually...

The rest of the ep was just so-so to me, not sure I'm in love with this every other week shit... one week ton of Van Alden next week none, last week ton of Nucky's brother, this week none, can't they mix it up a lil bit and have a lil bit of each per week? Just being petty though...

either way, another good one, but ready for the action to start popping heavy next week


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184. "This felt very filler...."
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Not bad, but filler none the less....

I don't understand WTF Jimmy was thinking in letting Lucky & them go, tho. How could he think that was going to work out?

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185. "Seemed like a good read to me..."
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>
>I don't understand WTF Jimmy was thinking in letting Lucky &
>them go, tho. How could he think that was going to work out?

In Meyer's own words, these upstarts are all looking to overthrow the current regime, and we've already been exposed to some acrimony between Lucky and Rothstein (sp?) over the card-game in Italian territory. Of course, that issue is partly Jimmy's responsibility, so it'll probably end up fucking over any possible alliance between Jimmy's group and Lucky's, but still, there was some logic in Jimmy's decision to not kill them all right there and then.

  

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186. "what makes you so sure that it wont?"
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194. "Jimmy has no way to 'enforce' the deal."
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he just basically has to 'trust' that these dudes will come through. Now what in their relationship speaks to being able to trust these guys?

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208. "killing them did him no good...but if they cross him he can always"
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revert back to that. he's got muscle now that he's rolling with dude from Philly. They never wanted any parts of that deal that Rothstein made with Nucky. I think they may just honor the deal.

We'll have to wait and see.

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187. "jimmy really doesn't have many options at this point..."
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..he obviously wants to be a boss

he can't do that sittin' under the thumb of nucky or rothstein. both of those men would rather take it all with them when they go (egyptian). his only shot at dethroning them was to side with the commodore and eventually inherit the business.

now that scenario is no longer an option, and this situation is the best way for him to get in on product. he has the muscle, but doesn't have the acumen. he understands principle, but hasn't mastered the politics of this racket.

he really doesn't have allies he can trust. hell, if not for richard, his character might've been dead a long time ago.


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188. "it really did"
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jimmy's probably better off doing drug dealing/start-up shit with lucky and meyer than trying to be the new nucky. at least it's more his lane

  

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189. "the interesting thing is that NONE of those upstarts"
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is built to be a boss.
even put together they don't have the brains that Knuck or the Commodore do.

they can muscle and wheel and deal, but they don't seem to have the acumen for the big stage.

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190. "Meyer does...he's Rothstein lite"
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him and Lucky make a good pair cause he's all brains and Lucky is all brawn.

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191. "well the real Lucky is "the father of modern organized crime""
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so at some point, if this show continues to blur the line between ficition and reality, he definitely will be.

though that's a few seasons down the road, if we get that far.

Meyer too.

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198. "lol, Im thinkin 'uh,Lucky turned out to have a pretty nice crime career'"
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203. "that's about ten years away"
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charlie and them killing masseria/maranzano and taking the reigns
rothstein getting killed
same with capone coming up

i doubt the show will ever get that far

  

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206. "true"
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they'd have to think of a good reason to fast forward

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207. "Well, I can think of a way they can do it (but it's not likely)"
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They could have Nucky sent to prison at the end of the season. Something like the new Federal Prosecutor won't make a deal, and he decides to plea to a lesser charge. He goes to prison for a few years, and they start up again much later in everyone's "career."

Don't think they'll do that though...

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209. "ion't see why not..."
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...maybe not this season, but i think Nuck's goin' to jail.

  

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212. "Yeah, I meant it's not going to happen this season"
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Or it would be kind of stupid if they did. If they do go that direction, it should be a lot farther down the road. They're still developing characters.

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215. "thing is, how far down the path of reality do they want to go?"
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I know Nucky Thompson isn't Nucky Johnson, but a lot of the characters on this show are real and he's clearly based on a real person, who didn't go to jail until the 40s.


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196. "I think the rest of the season is going to be about Jimmy's..."
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...ascendancy. Maybe not supplanting Nucky, but planting the seeds to eventually become his equal. As was hinted in that stand-off, guys like Lansky and Lucciano, with their eyes on the drug trade, are the future. So the way I see it going is that Jimmy indeed learns that he doesn't have to answer every insult by killing someone (though it looks like next episode he takes a shot at Nucky, spurred on by his mother) and stakes his claim in Atlantic City through the drug trade and becomes a boss in his own area.

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199. "Charlie and Meyer are working their way up"
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of course they're not ready at this point, but this takes place about ten years before they upended organized crime

that's where jimmy needs to be. his mom is delisuional

  

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205. "ok phew it was just me"
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192. "The Mayor is dead and no one asks about him."
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Other than that, pretty good episode. The pregnancy scenes was pretty tough to stomach.

  

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195. "he wasn't the current mayor..."
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..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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193. "Chalky White is back in business..."
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...Van Alden is about to go H.A.M. and i told y'all Mrs. Schroeder wasn't about shit. she on another mofos nuts ALREADY!

"there are children in this house..." REALLY? shut the f*ck up and swallow.

Nucky on thin ice. his shipment ain't gon' come thru, his case gon' get prosecuted by a real attorney and his chick lookin' out for self. too much goin' against him.

Jimmy? everything's workin' out for him, but he just don't know it. the people he involved with are comin' up. Lansky, Luciano and Capone. if he loses, then he ain't deserve it.

  

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197. "Jimmy"
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Did I miss a scene where Jimmy tells the butcher from Philly that he can't get him the alch? Just wondering how he let him off so easy given his brutal personality.....

  

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200. "I think it's because he told him about the guy meeting with Nucky"
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And he was far more upset about that

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201. "no need for that scene"
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once Jimmy saw the butcher's homie on the boardwalk w/ Nucky, it pretty much summed up how things went down

Nucky's people blew up the still so the butcher was gonna get his liquor by ripping off Nucky's shipment
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204. "that was a little sloppy"
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Herman walking around the boardwalk with Waxey and Nucky was too convenient (you'd think a guy that close to Horwitz would be more careful). additionally, not sure why Horwitz would trust Jimmy with that intel given he just fucked him on a liquor order and has known Herman for far longer.

writers came up with a lazy-ass way to get Horwitz and Jimmy closer.

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214. "He did ask Jimmy several times, if he was sure."
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And, I'm quite sure he'd be able to read his man, once faced with that accusation.


Oh, and LOL @ Nelson !

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202. ""that's just something she does""
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210. "I could watch an hour of "Nucky on the phone" jump cuts"
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He was hilarious in this episode...dropping f-bombs left and right.

  

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211. ""Who the fuck wants to stay in Cincinatti?""
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The exchange between him and Remus was fucking hilarious. Side note: there's gonna have to be some pay-off for that, rather than just the two of them cursing each other out.

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213. "I'm thinking the IRA guy is more than he seems."
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He used Nucky's need for an enforcer (and the maid) to angle his way into the household, but it looks like he's really there for Margaret... her old identity hasn't been emphasized, and I'm guessing that whoever she really is will play a huge role... for good or bad.

It could turn out that her ex-husband was a former IRA guy or something, not sure.

  

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240. "hans shroeder isnt an irish name so i doubt this"
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>It could turn out that her ex-husband was a former IRA guy or
>something, not sure.

i mean i give a fck but i don't give that much of a fck

  

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216. "episode 7..."
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...this shit gets crazier and CRAZIER!!! but it's good television viewing.

this episode is sorta showin' me that good ol' Jimmy Dormady ain't so cut out for this. not cuz he didn't kill Nuck. really tough thing to do. he could be goin' thru growin' pains, but...i don't think it's in him to run the city. seriously, as of right now...nobody respects him (except Richard). he got a chance to redeem himself, but...it ain't gon' be easy.

-- Mrs Schroeder...no words. none.

-- Van Alden, dunno what he got up his sleeve. but the female prosecutor was actually a real person who made it her mission to clean up the agency and convict folks. he could be playin' her for his own gain.

  

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217. "everyone's getting fucked in this episode, one way or another"
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- Like was said above, Jimmy isn't prepared (and I doubt he ever will be prepared) for being boss. He's unable to cut off emotional ties and see things as strictly business. Yes, he went through the hit but it took some coercing from his mother to get things moving ahead smoothly.

- As was evident from the first time they met, Margaret and the bodyboard get together. Of course her bullshit about their having sex being a one time thing isn't true. From the moment dude entered her you could tell she beyond sprung. They'll probably fool around some more while Nucky is being hospitalized. Maybe the maid the boygaurd screwed will find out, become jealous and snitch to Nucky or the butler in the near future. Many possibilities are up in the air but I'm glad the writers went ahead with the affair.

- Van Alden's descent into corruption is going to be very interesting to watch. I'm wonder how far he'll be willing to go.

- And, I have to admit, I'm very envious of Luciano's affair with Jimmy's mom. She seems like an amazing time in bed.

  

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218. "RE: everyone's getting fucked in this episode, one way or another"
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>- Van Alden's descent into corruption is going to be very
>interesting to watch. I'm wonder how far he'll be willing to
>go.

right now, this and what Chalky does next are the most interesting stories right now...how WAS Van Alden payin all those bills? i LOVE the fact that it all fell apart and now he's a single dad, a true rarity in those times....

...i get why Margret's brother is mad at her, sorta, but i get why she left too....

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219. "holy shit, this episode actually topped two weeks ago"
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they both move at a pace that seems impossible to maintain weekly without getting gratuitous but wow.

That finger in the urinal shot had Scorsese written all over it.

I'm trying to get the timing down, so nobody at Nucky's place & they hadn't gotten the news yet?

That felt like night-time but I guess it always is in the casino.

Seems strange that she'd risk it right there under those circumstances despite her thirst.

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245. "RE: holy shit, this episode actually topped two weeks ago"
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>they both move at a pace that seems impossible to maintain
>weekly without getting gratuitous but wow.
>
>That finger in the urinal shot had Scorsese written all over
>it.

That shit had be jumping up and down in phantom pain. I knew the fingers were coming off but I still wasn't ready to see all of that.

>I'm trying to get the timing down, so nobody at Nucky's place
>& they hadn't gotten the news yet?
>
>That felt like night-time but I guess it always is in the
>casino.
>
>Seems strange that she'd risk it right there under those
>circumstances despite her thirst.

The kids were out with the maid(s) on duty that day and Nucky was out on the town taking care of business. I'm pretty sure Margaret has everyone's schedule down to pat, so she knew no one would intrude.

  

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220. "RE: everyone's getting fucked in this episode, one way or another"
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>- Like was said above, Jimmy isn't prepared (and I doubt he
>ever will be prepared) for being boss. He's unable to cut off
>emotional ties and see things as strictly business. Yes, he
>went through the hit but it took some coercing from his mother
>to get things moving ahead smoothly.

Eh, I wouldn't put whether he is or isn't ready based on any hesitation for whacking Nucky. It's a dumb play, and it goes AGAINST the smart decision that he made last week. If anything, it should the continued lack of readiness on Eli's part, who suggested they killed him just because he rejected him.

>- Van Alden's descent into corruption is going to be very
>interesting to watch. I'm wonder how far he'll be willing to
>go.

I'm pretty sure he was implying that he wasn't going to be corrupted. That's why he told the prosecutor that he had the kid out of wedlock (which is what Nucky was holding over him) and then he turns over the file.

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221. "Jimmy's prone to making bad decisions..."
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...he's an emotional guy who's STILL looking for guidance. BUT...he actually went against the plan to sorta save Nucky -- the only person who's really given him what he's been looking for. i guess some how it's s'pose to save face with his "business" partners who want Nuck dead. i don't think Jimmy's ready (or ever will be) cuz he hasn't quite figured out what makes people tick. shit Nuck played the Commodore with Jimmy's mom! he's BEEN doin' it. Jimmy? not so much.

Van Alden? when push comes to shove, he's corrupt. i think him handing over the file is all about appearances. that's his M.O. -- keepin' appearance as if he's law abiding and righteous. but when forced to actually do the right thing he rarely does. he lies to EVERYBODY...even to himself.

  

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223. "yeah to me his hesitancy shows that he's thinking right..."
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i think this is more his evolution into a boss and will show his growing pains but he's moving in the right direction. i'm just wondering how Nucky will respond.

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231. "totally agree."
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His mom is on some Lady MacBeth shit....

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246. "RE: everyone's getting fucked in this episode, one way or another"
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>>- Van Alden's descent into corruption is going to be very
>>interesting to watch. I'm wonder how far he'll be willing to
>>go.
>
>I'm pretty sure he was implying that he wasn't going to be
>corrupted. That's why he told the prosecutor that he had the
>kid out of wedlock (which is what Nucky was holding over him)
>and then he turns over the file.

The reason I called Van Alden corrupt is because he's taking money from Nucky in exchange for leaking information about the new prosecutor woman. That's the only reason he handed over the giant file of information about Nucky. Van Alden want's to get on her good side so she'll begin divulge all information to him. In turn he'll tell Nucky and get the money he needs to support his child.

  

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247. "i dont think so"
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i think he told the lawyer about his intel and confided in her about his mistress/baby because she then said 'we'll see about your situation' meaning she will probably get him a pay raise or some expense account to take care of his shit..

hence he doesnt need to borrow money from Nucky and won't owe him shit and can still see him end up in jail like he wanted from the jump.

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251. "I agree"
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I read that as Van Alden coming clean entirely. he could have snitched on the prosecutor without giving her his *entire* work against Nucky -- an amazing gift, considering she didn't even have a good head shot of him.

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253. "ah, i understand"
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that's makes sense. I kept wondering why Van Alden bowed down to Nucky's plans so easily but this makes sense.

  

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227. "smh all around"
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>- Like was said above, Jimmy isn't prepared (and I doubt he
>ever will be prepared) for being boss. He's unable to cut off
>emotional ties and see things as strictly business. Yes, he
>went through the hit but it took some coercing from his mother
>to get things moving ahead smoothly.
>
Actually, I think Jimmy's hesitance to kill Nucky is one of the FEW wise impulses he's had. Things don't work like that in AC, think about how The Commodore got to ride off into the sunset. He was right about that, this ain't New York...

>- As was evident from the first time they met, Margaret and
>the bodyboard get together. Of course her bullshit about their
>having sex being a one time thing isn't true. From the moment
>dude entered her you could tell she beyond sprung. They'll
>probably fool around some more while Nucky is being
>hospitalized. Maybe the maid the boygaurd screwed will find
>out, become jealous and snitch to Nucky or the butler in the
>near future. Many possibilities are up in the air but I'm glad
>the writers went ahead with the affair.
>

Honestly, I am SO disappointed in her. I really am. She really doesn't have it so bad. Why shit in your own bed, you know?

>- Van Alden's descent into corruption is going to be very
>interesting to watch. I'm wonder how far he'll be willing to
>go.

Actually I think Van Alden did the only thing he could - turning in all the info to the AG was his best play.
>
>- And, I have to admit, I'm very envious of Luciano's affair
>with Jimmy's mom. She seems like an amazing time in bed.

right?

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222. "Nucky fucked up and let emotions rule him with Eli"
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When Eli came back crawling into him when the coalition was in shambles he could have easily taken him back and ended the whole thing.


Understandably he warned Eli in the beginning there was no going back on his betrayal, but by escalating their beef to total annihilation he gave Eli no choice and forced Jimmy's hand. Rather then him silently breaking up the conspiracy with Eli's info/help it just gave the coalition more time to regroup and get help from unexpected places.

It's interesting that the whole 'emotions vs logic' argument that Jimmy has been wrestling with has fucked up Nucky, even tho at the time his actions did seem within reason.

  

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225. "well, I think he underestimated Eli."
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I NEVER thought Eli would be down to kill Nuck, and I don't think Nuck did either. Other than that tho, I mean, what was he supposed to do? He obviously can't ever trust him again. The only other alternative would be to kill him. I don't think Nuck has it in him to kill his baby bro.

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228. "True, Eli did cross the rubicon"
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>I NEVER thought Eli would be down to kill Nuck, and I don't
>think Nuck did either. Other than that tho, I mean, what was
>he supposed to do? He obviously can't ever trust him again.
>The only other alternative would be to kill him. I don't think
>Nuck has it in him to kill his baby bro.

But the plays they are doing now, even though as an audience member was was like 'Don't call the hit!' makes sense 'cause why would Eli ever leave Nucky alive after what happened?

  

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230. "yep, sad as it is, I think it was a mistake to let Eli live."
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224. "Well...can't go wrong picking something from the bible"
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Van Alden: http://oi41.tinypic.com/zjxbnq.jpg

lol

that whole scene was funny. nucky offering him liquor on some let's celebrate shit.

also:
http://oi40.tinypic.com/29gofm1.jpg

lol. he hit that baby w/that look twice. plus when lucy walked in and he was like, "you and i haven't seen each other since may 23 of last year."

  

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226. "FUNNIEST part of that scene"
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Was Nucky immediately saying "The last time I saw you was March..." on some dont you even fucking try to put that bastard on me shit as soon as the chick walked in the room with the baby.

  

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229. "he knew EXACTLY what was up when she walked in...."
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That second pic is HILARIOUS

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239. "If there was ever a time to start . . ."
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>nucky offering him liquor on some
>let's celebrate shit.

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249. "Nucky is straight comedy"
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248. "classic"
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232. "these folks can't just kill somebody with 1 gunshot or stabbing huh?"
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Speaking of...who was the guy Owen killed in the bathroom? I'd assumed that was Nucky's future assassinator but I was wrong

Aw Margaret...you fucking whore!

Jimmy's mom is such a whore...Charlie gon learn

Jimmy don't have it in him man...his face when they said "he's alive" was like FUCK now we gotta try this shit again.

  

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233. "RE: these folks can't just kill somebody with 1 gunshot or stabbing huh?"
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>Speaking of...who was the guy Owen killed in the bathroom?
>I'd assumed that was Nucky's future assassinator but I was
>wrong

Someone who betrayed the cause back in Ireland, it's why he was sent to hang out in Atlantic City (it was only explained tho in that episode in the banter between them both and what he said after he killed him)..it's kinda why when Margaret was wondering why wasn't he guarding Nucky he shrugged...his real job was apparently to hunt that dude down for the Irish revolutionaries.

>Aw Margaret...you fucking whore!
>
>Jimmy's mom is such a whore...Charlie gon learn
>
>Jimmy don't have it in him man...his face when they said "he's
>alive" was like FUCK now we gotta try this shit again.

  

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241. "i got hype at first cause i thought owen was gonna"
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save nucky
that he had somehow found out abt the plot and was going to interfere
him killing for the revolution was just as good

i mean i give a fck but i don't give that much of a fck

  

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234. "for the record..."
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the guy Eli beat to death wasn't the current or former mayor, he was a ward-boss under Nucky (the one who got spit on and knocked-out by the Dalessio brothers last season when he was making his rounds). Nucky mentions his absence ("O'neil's off hiding") in ep7 during the scene where he's talking to his lawyer about his case.

  

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235. "I fucking love this show..."
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For my sake it has completely made the leap everyone said it needed to when the season started.

I agree that Van Alden was cooperating with the Lawyer, not with Nucky. He is staying as clean as he can.

Loved that zoom-in on Jimmy shaking his head 'no' like a little kid just before he okays the hit on Nucky.

I thought Margaret's story was great this week. I can completely understand how she'd fuck up her situation with Nucky after making that trip to see her family. That is Irish-Catholic guilt on full display there. Kelly MacDonald deserves some recognition for her work this year.

Some great writing in that scene too, we get a sense of Margaret's back story, her position in her family and how that has lead to her position in life (submitting to powerful men). And it did all that without going into heavy-handed exposition mode.

  

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236. "Explain Margaret's NY family to me..."
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The guy was her brother...got that. But what about the kids? Were they all Margaret's sisters? Or just the one?

  

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237. "I think just the young one was her sister"
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But maybe both the little kids were? It seemed like the older girl remembered her from Ireland?

I'm not gonna lie I didn't really focus on their scenes Margaret's gettin on my nerves this season

  

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238. "Ditto..."
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Just add last season to your statement.

>Margaret's gettin on my nerves this season

  

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242. "there are remnants of abuse..."
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..they alluded to this

the question is what type?

i'm sure that will be revealed as the show develops. margaret's fragile for a reason, and i'm betting it has somethin' to do with the events of her childhood.

why else would she run off from her family?..



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243. "correct me if I'm wrong...."
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but I think Margaret got pregnant at a young age from consensual sex. This would bring great shame to any Irish-Catholic family.

She was ordered (by the family priest I believe)to go work in some women's factory. I'm picturing something similar to the mills that the US had at the time where the women lived in dorms right at the factory.

Not wanting this horrible life of labor, Margaret turned to her brother (it seems they were fairly close, probably due to their ages) but he refused to help her...rather than face this fate she took off to the US and lost her baby on the trip over (so she says, not necessarily true).

The only abuse is the passive-aggressivism from her brother, undoubtedly something he learned from their parents. It's a classic Irish-American trait and I think it does a lot to explain Margaret's willingness/submission in staying with her abusive (now dead) husband and now Nucky as well as her conflicting attitudes for most of this season.

  

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244. "all sounds about right from what i gathered..."
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her brother's just pissed at her for abandoning the family as they obviously went through hard times after she left...but to her credit it didn't seem like she had a choice.

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250. "That's what I gathered only addition"
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Is to really stress that the work house if it's anything like what was decribed during Rosie odonnells genealogy on who do you think you are
Those conditions were absolutely horrid, crowded, diseased it was bad
When she said she wouldn't want that for anyone she wasn't exaggerating she really did do what she needed to do for herself ironically those conditions might have lost her the baby she ended up losing anyway
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252. "depths of the ocean..."
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..while i agree with everyone's assessment of info given up to this point, my mention of abuse stems more from her action/reaction since her character first appeared.

*and yes, the conditions of the women who were confined to those factories were certainly horrid and classifies as extreme abuse.


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269. "well she was getting abused by her dead husband"
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we do know that

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254. "jimmy darmody, you stupid bastard"
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watching this show, there's so many moving parts. makes your head spin.

Rothstein has been fantastic this season. Historically and dramatically a great character. That was sage advice. Rope a Dope.

Funny how quick the pups got sniffed out. Youth.

Jimmy's talk with his wife was some coldblooded shit. I dunno what disgusted her more, the fact that he tried to kill Nuck, or his moms was the influence that pushed him from a good decision to a bad one.

Manny Horvath has been awesome. "Boychick" He's charming, but you can see in his eyes he is not to be trifled with. He sure pulled Jimmy's hoe card with the deer story.

Eli. Its as if Nuck took all the abuse and all the shit, and it leaves him cold,fucked up, but able to deal. Eli is just..pity. regret. false bravado. fear.

Jimmy. When the commodore's old friend came to him, he pulled his coat to the smart way to do business. And up until being turned by Eli and his moms, he was on his way.

Now?

Drunk off power and thinking he scared Nuck into retirement, he wants to fuck with a dude he owes 5K to. With feds in his and his people's business. Colossally stupid.

ironic how it was Eli being the voice of reason to Jimmy, when him being a dick and wanting Nucky killed cause he couldn't deal with humiliation was the catalyst for all this.

And Nuck finna get IRA goons on that ass? They make that prohibition violence look like a sandbox slapfight.

And they gotta stop teasing us with Chalky getting revenge on the Klan. If it's going down, lets get it over with(c) Willie D.

  

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255. "agree with alla this..."
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>watching this show, there's so many moving parts. makes your
>head spin.
>
>Rothstein has been fantastic this season. Historically and
>dramatically a great character. That was sage advice. Rope a
>Dope.
>
>Funny how quick the pups got sniffed out. Youth.
>
>Jimmy's talk with his wife was some coldblooded shit. I dunno
>what disgusted her more, the fact that he tried to kill Nuck,
>or his moms was the influence that pushed him from a good
>decision to a bad one.
>
>Manny Horvath has been awesome. "Boychick" He's charming, but
>you can see in his eyes he is not to be trifled with. He sure
>pulled Jimmy's hoe card with the deer story.
>
>Eli. Its as if Nuck took all the abuse and all the shit, and
>it leaves him cold,fucked up, but able to deal. Eli is
>just..pity. regret. false bravado. fear.
>
>Jimmy. When the commodore's old friend came to him, he pulled
>his coat to the smart way to do business. And up until being
>turned by Eli and his moms, he was on his way.
>
>Now?
>
>Drunk off power and thinking he scared Nuck into retirement,
>he wants to fuck with a dude he owes 5K to. With feds in his
>and his people's business. Colossally stupid.
>
>ironic how it was Eli being the voice of reason to Jimmy, when
>him being a dick and wanting Nucky killed cause he couldn't
>deal with humiliation was the catalyst for all this.
>
>And Nuck finna get IRA goons on that ass? They make that
>prohibition violence look like a sandbox slapfight.
>
>And they gotta stop teasing us with Chalky getting revenge on
>the Klan. If it's going down, lets get it over with(c) Willie
>D.

Jimmy's a dummt, and i liked the way they showed that all the pups aren't ready and Jimmy mat NEVER be ready....dude he owes money to is gonna end up fuckin jimmy up, cause jimmy keeps playin with fire, time for the burning...

Jimmy's wife being able to be affectionate with someone was nice...Two Face's reaction to Jimmy's celebration party was great too...

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256. "man I thought Eli was going over that blacony"
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both of 'em were in stone cold drunk face, firing shots and throwing stones. it was funny but I thought for sure they were gonna get in a brawl and Eli was going over the rope.

But Doyle? That raises the stakes in a whole other equally exciting direction.

Man this season should just go on forever I'm getting scared for the end of it (there's only four episodes left!@!! © Busta)

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257. "man I thought Eli was going over that blacony"
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both of 'em were in stone cold drunk face, firing shots and throwing stones. it was funny but I thought for sure they were gonna get in a brawl and Eli was going over the rope.

But Doyle? That raises the stakes in a whole other equally exciting direction.

Man this season should just go on forever I'm getting scared for the end of it (there's only four episodes left!@!! © Busta)

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264. "yeah i cant believe he was celebrating all carelessly"
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and i dont get why he doesnt just pay ol' dude his 5k...has this fool learned nothing this past year?

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274. "shits gettin real"
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just actually finished it. yo jimmy i love you but wtf? Nucky clickin up with Sinn Fein is def a good look, and i have a feeling chalky is about to do his thing. Very Sopranos like episode, i was pleased to see Doyle finally get sonned, but dont fuck with those oldhead philly jew gangsters, straight out of Belarus

  

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285. "I thought the same thing"
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Tue Nov-15-11 12:46 PM by EDouble

  

          

>Very Sopranos like episode,
All of the eps have that feel but this one really seemed to mak a Soprano's connection to me.
Episode Written by Winter & directed by Tim Van Patton (Salami) who directed many Sopranos episodes.

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258. "The youth movement!"
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This season has been tremendously good. I loved season 1
but this season has lifted the entire show from really
good to great. I'd also like to mention that I've always
loved Steve Buscemi as an actor but I've never truly
realized how amazing his acting chops really were until
this show. He's really showing a ton of range that I
never knew he had.

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259. "getting better and better..."
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a couple things.

Fuck Jimmy's wife. Yeah, JImmy's kinduva momma's boy, but stop walking around like you life is so fucking bad. You got food on the table, nice clothes, live in a WONDERFUL beach house, and you still walking around like you been sucking on a herring lolipop.

Cheer the fuck up!

Eli - dumb too long, got smart too old
Jimmy - AYDMF - the butcher's bout to get in that ass and you're a fool if you think Nuck's just about to hand the city to you.

Yo, I think Herro sees that Nuck ain't giving in, maybe that's why he was so stone cold at the 'celebration'

I can't fucking wait 'til next week.

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260. "I just think it's the storyline that makes me not like her"
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>a couple things.
>
>Fuck Jimmy's wife. Yeah, JImmy's kinduva momma's boy, but stop
>walking around like you life is so fucking bad. You got food
>on the table, nice clothes, live in a WONDERFUL beach house,
>and you still walking around like you been sucking on a
>herring lolipop.
>
>Cheer the fuck up!
>

The whole bohemian lesbian angle has been pretty stereotypical and doesn't seem organic...it's like the writers know from their old college lit classes that alot of the female artists at the time were bisexual and just kinda threw it in there.

Like that hookup was planted a mile away; of course the fiery sexual artist not ashamed to show off her thigh meat from 'san francisco' would be into her chronically depressed motherly ass, lol.

If she was sleeping with the irish hearthrob thug Owen or on some soap opera shit the female district attorney it wouldn't annoy me as much.

  

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262. "for me it's the character."
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she's needlessly morose and a hypocrite.

Oh, Jimmy never tells you nothing huh? Kinda like how you were carrying on behind his back while he was away and NEVER SAID A DAMNED THING?

Or kinda like how you were planning on running away for Paris AND taking his son?

Kinda like that, huh?

Fuck her? I wish Jimmy woulda just told her bitch ass to kick rocks once she started in on all that, '...because it's what society expected of me, because you kept pushing it."

Oh word?

I woulda went Orange Juice Jones on that hoe.

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270. "but you chilled LOL"
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>I woulda went Orange Juice Jones on that hoe.

  

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292. "LMAO! Amazing exchange up here!"
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271. "nah"
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jimmys a fuck up and she knows it
jimmy and his mom is a disaster waiting to hsppen and her ass is stuck with those fools getting more foolish

youd be morose too finding out your idiot of a husband attempted and failed to kill the head of AC

got a husband w a crazy disrespectful incestuous mother
who makes alllll the wrong fecisions in life one after another
hell yeah thats depressing
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279. "then leave."
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But if you're gonna stay, either try to help that fool out, he is your man, or fix yo fuckin face!

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281. "shes trying"
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>But if you're gonna stay, either try to help that fool out,
>he is your man, or fix yo fuckin face!

and fuck no
he doesnt want her involved anyway
esp when he fixes his pouty ass face


face it they are a match
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283. "I don't think she is tho."
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she just sits around screwfaced, but don't ever say anything.

You're right tho, he don't want her anywhere near his business. That's a key difference between Nuck and Jimmy,

Nuck, as bad as he is, lets margaret in. She knows the deal, can get to the money, she has an agency that Angie don't.

This could be a analysis in relationship dynamics and how they change as we age/harden/become more cynical.

Nucky's a hard bastard, but in a way, it makes him a lil' easier to deal with, because you know where he's coming from. With Jimmy, unless you're steering/manipulating him, you don't really know where you stand - the only exception is Harrow. Jimmy seems to have REAL respect for Harrow, respect I haven't seen him show to anyone else, honestly.

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261. "Loved this episodes theme of Father Figures"
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It's on that "how could anyone not like him" status.

Unlike the poster above (dont remember who said it) I even found the Angie boho storyline interesting. I'm assuming that this is based on actual people, and I really know nothing of *that* aspect of the 20's.

I also loved Nucky's involvement with the Army. That scene with the Tommy Gun's in the crates where the General talks about it being a surplus since they didn't expect the germans to surrender so fast. Nucky's boy wasnt enjoying that. What'd he mutter? "Jerk!" or something.

Jimmy throwing doyle (right name?) over the balcony was a "whoa" keanu moment for me and my brother while watching.

Loved the Commodore being able to stomach saying "im sorry for your loss" to nucky. unless i missed the sarcasm, I assumed it was an atlantic city legend saying peace to one of his peers. that was very classy.

Van Alden was fantastic in a small role this episode. The scene where he crunched up the bill was so telling of how he hates corruption so much and yet obviously has gone down a dark path...thus leading to the stacks behind the painting scene. this guy is losing his way.

what else...

Loved Jimmy reassuring Richard that he's one of them and part of this "we'll fix up your mask and get you a nice woman." I love their brotherly love.

Rothstein was so fucking cool tonight. Just cool. Cool as a cucumber. You can just tell he keeps an eye on his people so much more than Nucky and Torrio (sp?).


The whole episode masterfully alluded to the father figures of the characters. metaphorically and literally. Nucky & Eli with their Pop, Van Alden to his pup, Commodore and Nucky to Jimmy, Jimmy vs. Angie to their "little cherub" as the lesbian pointed out, Rothstein to Lucky, Torrio to Al.Cap, etc etc.

This has gone from my "I watch it cause it's on and solid" show last season, to "I love it and it's my favourite show going" this season.

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263. "you know it's not even the storyline, it's her."
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>
>Unlike the poster above (dont remember who said it) I even
>found the Angie boho storyline interesting. I'm assuming that
>this is based on actual people, and I really know nothing of
>*that* aspect of the 20's.
>
While I don't particularly care for Margaret, I respect her because she plays her fucking role. She keeps the house, tries to look out for Nuck, when shit hits the fan, she's there w/a mop and a bucket.

yes, she cheats
yes, she's skimming money

but all in all, I do feel like she's on Nuck's team; otherwise, why be there?

Does ANYONE think Jimmy's wife is really on his team? Is it even up for debate?

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265. "i like jimmy, but why should we not root for ang?"
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what did she do? Jimmy left her for months (right?) and was in love with a hooker til she offed herself. He treated her like shit and leaves her for days/weeks/months on end. She was right.

Nucky treats margaret pretty much like gold. he loves her and is there for her more and more as his life unravels and they get closer.

Angie doesnt really whine either. she raises the boy and keeps the house clean. she's also only...what...23? 24? she's still learning who she is.

i have no qualms with Angie, even though I love Jimmy's character. But he is a terrible husband/father 99 days out of 100

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266. "fuck you, yo."
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You made me re-examine my whole view point on this character.

lol

You know what, I think you're right. She's not THAT bad, I guess my problem w/her is that she's so obviously unhappy, and yet, she's still there.

I guess, I want her to either be satisfied w/her role, or skate. Fuck the in between shit....

None-the-less you have a good point about her, however, you have to keep in mind, our 20 something and that period's 20 something are two totally different things...

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267. "RE: fuck you, yo."
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>You made me re-examine my whole view point on this
>character.
>
>lol
>
>You know what, I think you're right. She's not THAT bad, I
>guess my problem w/her is that she's so obviously unhappy, and
>yet, she's still there.
>
>I guess, I want her to either be satisfied w/her role, or
>skate. Fuck the in between shit....
>
she went thru this last season tho remember? she was gonna leave with the chick, but that didn't work out...she's just like anyone else in an unhappy relationship who can't figure a way out yet...back then, it hadda be WAY worse for a single mother....if she could, she'd stack like margret, but i don't think jimmy lets her anywhere near the money....

>None-the-less you have a good point about her, however, you
>have to keep in mind, our 20 something and that period's 20
>something are two totally different things...

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268. "hahahaha. excellent!"
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>You made me re-examine my whole view point on this
>character.
>
>lol

Wasnt ultimately my goal, but I'm glad you can remain open-minded enough to see it from her shoes, as i have. I want both Jimmy and Angie to be happy...together or apart. I think they're both good people in tough situations. And their kid is cute as a button.

>
>You know what, I think you're right. She's not THAT bad, I
>guess my problem w/her is that she's so obviously unhappy, and
>yet, she's still there.

Like the poster above replied to this, she did try in the past with the photog lady. The fact is, the country is only JUST allowing women to be people (see margaret in season 1 first half). Her option was to fully escape with the kid and run to Paris. That was a viable option and she was getting Van Alden'd up in their tiny apartment while Jimmy was in Chicago and elsewhere. She was stuck. Miserable. Abandoned. Alone. Because of Jimmy.

Yes, she's unfaithful...but as Jimmy admitted, their marriage is merely "the right thing to do" not the best thing to do. They both are ultimately unsatisfied with each other despite both of their efforts to try.

>
>I guess, I want her to either be satisfied w/her role, or
>skate. Fuck the in between shit....

>
>None-the-less you have a good point about her, however, you
>have to keep in mind, our 20 something and that period's 20
>something are two totally different things...

Totally. 23 or 24 in the 20's is like being 33 or 34 today. But it doesnt change the fact that the world around is another 40-50 years away from truly accepting single mothers as viable contributors to society. Without a husband and with a baby...can she work? who will hire her? the chruch wont accept her. She can't teach as a single mother. she can barely get a retail job. she can't go to school realistically. she's fucked if she leaves jimmy on bad terms. the fact is, she's in this marriage and is making the best of a situation. she's taken care of financially and her son is happy enough. so she's just looking for recreation at this point. who can hate on that?

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272. "ah just saw this"
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to add on her husband is up to plain fuckery and shes just waiting like its a countdown to die...unless she can find a way out

but damned if her husband isnt going to get her killed

oh but i dont really like her either lol
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284. "yeah, this is a huge part, I think."
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I think everyone knows Nuck is smarter than Jimmy, but Jimmy.

I ain't saying I totally agree with the character, but I can definitely see where she's coming from now.

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286. "What makes you think Jimmy thinks he's smarter?"
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He knows nucky is not to be underestimated...he's just to surrounded by talking heads to stop and really think about how things are.

I think Jimmy see's Nucky like a teenager see's their dad. Someone you respect for the most part, but assume you'll be a better version of. And then when the time comes to step up, you start to appreciate what it was like to be your father.

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290. "Otherwise, why take him on as an opponent?"
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No one steps up for a fight they think they'll lose when the stakes are this high.

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273. "Stuhlbarg is an incredible actor"
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any scene with him or the cat that plays lanske are ill, there needs to be more storylines involving new york or chicago. dope episode though, the opening scene was definitly on some sopranos shit

  

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275. "Regarding Nucky using Chalky to start the strikes"
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I hope Nucky is planning to use the IRA dudes to have Chalky's back when the strikes start because as evident with the end of the most recent episode, violence will surely ensue from Jimmy's end. And I don't think Chalky's people will want too much bloodshed as shown with the flashback from the beginning of the episode.

  

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277. "seems to me like Chalky's people been waiting to fight back"
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atleast i know Chalky has.

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280. "In an earlier scene"
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wives were complaining to Chalky about bodies piling up and no results being shown. If they go on strike, I think it's fair to assume Jimmy will resort to violence and harsh tactics to get his way. I'm hoping Nucky is willing to give Chalky some assistance in regards to arms and not just simply try to use Chalky and the other black folks as pawns to irritate Jimmy.

  

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287. "i took that as them being angry that Chalky didn't strike back"
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to avenge their deaths...and isn't providing for their families either. he was acting like everything was all good in that meeting and they're not having it. they want him to do something.

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282. "I don't think Nucky is recruiting IRA guys for him per se"
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I think he's going over there to sell them the surplus machine guns that they're storing in the Atlantic City armory. I figure he's going to want something in return (besides the money, which he needs), but I'm not sure what it is.

It seems to me that Nucky is setting things up so when shit eventually goes down, the Aldermen are going to come him begging for him to come back and run the city again. He's gotta keep appearances (at least in the U.S.) that he's keeping his nose clean, and there's no percentage in going into open war with Jimmy. I figure he's gonna let Jimmy fight it out with Philly and deal with the strike, and then Nucky will come swooping in to save the day.

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288. "good call on the guns...i didnt even make that connection"
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293. "My first thought..."
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276. "Buscemi was gold again tonight, he's topped his s1 performance"
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especially with the past few episodes...

Agree with everyone else that this had a strong Soprano's feel to it, in a good way, not a copycat way...

We need more Capone, looks like that could be on it's way

  

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278. "Everything was on point, not sure about Van Alden's stuff though"
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289. "Manure"
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- But what do you expect when you conduct your business in a stable - AR.
The Nucky/AR/Torrio scene was great. The old heads showing the youth they are where they are for a reason. Also all 3 actors have "crazy eyes" I rewatched the scene just looking at the expression in each of their eyes and was impressed with the level of "acting".

I feel like Jimmy & Harrow's relationship may be headed towards some tension. Harrow is loyal but not stupid. I think he may know Nucky is playing a long game and it is foolish to celebrate now. Jimmy is on edge and has said in the past he can't read him. Maybe it's me but It do feel right.

What is Nucky's plan for Ireland? Exchange guns for Irish whiskey or, to gain some favor with power brokers iin Ireland? Remember he has a connection with Warren G. Harding, could he become some kind of ambassador? Or just manpower for a potential turf war.

Looks like Nucks plan is to have Jimmy and the new power team fighting wars on multiple fronts, spreading them thin and they have no way of controlling. It's gonna be tough for Jimmy, but if he makes it through it he will then have some real juice. But I doubt it ( i Know it's fiction) but there is a reason we have heard of all the other major players but not a Jimmy Darmody type character.

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291. "that AR line was my favorite of the show..."
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actually he had two of my favorite bits of dialogue in this ep. This and the part when he gives Nucky advice. thats really one of my favorite characters on tv...especially considering the fact that he's not a main character.

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294. "just a lot of wheels getting set in motion there"
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that polio scene was harsh though


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295. "yeah, this show does a great job of ...*spoiler*"
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..making me feel sorry for the characters and in the next breath showing that many of them are fucked up people...

...i was glad them kitchen workers didn't fuck ole boy up, cause i KNOW they wanted to...next week is gonna be rough on the black community in AC...if they hit black folx wit water hoses and let loose the hounds literally a few decades later, Lawd knows what whitey will do next week...

...i shoulda known the IRA dude was gonna get capped...he was gettin soft...

i don't think that was the "nice girl" he had in mind, but i liked her "fuck it" attitude...

that old butcher is my fav character of the season..i knew that old man wasn't goin out so easy..LOL at his detective skills...

...i wonder if Jimmy didn't meet up at the Commodore's house this time cause he's tryin to distance himself from his parents influence....

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306. "he was tired of Manny and Nucky standing in front of bears as symbolism"
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>...i wonder if Jimmy didn't meet up at the Commodore's house
>this time cause he's tryin to distance himself from his
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296. "I now wash my hands of Jimmy."
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Trying to kill the butcher over $5k, when he obviously has $60k in his pocket was BEYOND stupid, and NOT the way you deal w/ppl who helped you when you needed it.

He's headed for a HARD fall, and frankly, I really don't even care.

But that scene w/Chalky and the big mouth from the jail???

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299. "It's kinda sad when Capone, Luciano and Lansky are the voice of reason"
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>Trying to kill the butcher over $5k, when he obviously has
>$60k in his pocket was BEYOND stupid, and NOT the way you deal
>w/ppl who helped you when you needed it.

Like they were in that scene on pressuring him to pay the dude. His anger is getting to be irrational at this point. I mean maybe he sees shades of Nucky in how the dude treats him like a little kid, but it's alot to risk a whole war over a relatively small loan.

  

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300. "hmmm"
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>Like they were in that scene on pressuring him to pay the
>dude. His anger is getting to be irrational at this point. I
>mean maybe he sees shades of Nucky in how the dude treats him
>like a little kid, but it's alot to risk a whole war over a
>relatively small loan.

I didn't even catch that, he prolly does feel a lil like he's back with Nucky. Still tho, as you pointed out, going to war over having your feelings hurt is kinda dumb, and, IMO illustrates WHY Nuck kept him in the role of an underling. Kid wasn't ready, and he knew it.

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303. "Agree Totally"
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I found myself kind of rootin for his ass and thought he was makin shit happen but what a dumb ass move.

Only question is there any chance the ole dude thinks it was Nucky who sent for him dead? Since he knows Nuck does business wit Waxy...Me and my girl were happy as hell he found that AC box but then were like aw no hope he dont think its Nuck

  

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304. "the one thing I really hate about him not paying the 5K"
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is the fact that it was made perfectly clear from the get go with the butcher that he does not fuck around, at all... Jimmy was specifically made fully aware of that and now he's starting all this bullshit about nothin' over 5 g's? it makes no sense to me

  

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297. "Is it really only 3 episodes left?"
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- Ole buddy from jail sure humbled himself to Chalky lol

- I FUCKS with Horovitz yo. That shit seemed too suspect and he knew what was up. Jimmy needs to stop fucking around and give him his 5k

- Eh...I'm over the whole Margie and the kids storyline. She started the season off so well but after sleeping with dude and cheating the maids she's bleh

**edit with question** the dud ethat got shot as Nucky was being driven away in Ireland....that was the dark haired guy he had initially met up with right? The one he first showed the guns to

  

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298. "eh, it's too late now..."
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>- I FUCKS with Horovitz yo. That shit seemed too suspect and
>he knew what was up. Jimmy needs to stop fucking around and
>give him his 5k

...Horovitz is gonna ALMOST kill Jimmy...

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301. "Yep"
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>**edit with question** the dud ethat got shot as Nucky was
>being driven away in Ireland....that was the dark haired guy
>he had initially met up with right? The one he first showed
>the guns to
>

Same dude, and I'm so glad he got got - he was such a sanctimonious prick!

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302. "ion't know if our boy is gonna make it."
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i feel like all this set up with richard harrow being all sad and shit is pointing to him getting capped
obviously one of these niggas gotta die
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305. "Yeah, Richard is not long for this world"
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>i feel like all this set up with richard harrow being all sad
>and shit is pointing to him getting capped
>obviously one of these niggas gotta die
>i doubt jimmy's gonna go

Kinda sad since he's my fav character, but there's nowhere for him to go: they've been kinda hammering in that his life is going to suck indefinitely.

  

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307. "The one way they can salvage his storyline is banging Jimmy's wife"
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and they way they foreshadowed it as a possibility it would certainly still make sense... seems highly unlikely, esp now they have went back to lesbian storyline for her

  

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308. "Honestly, I think Jimmy might be the one to get capped."
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Either that, or the Butcher gets him so scared that he has to go to Nucky/AR/Capone's boss for help. That's the ONLY way I see out of this.

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309. "I agree with this part:"
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>Either that, or the Butcher gets him so scared that he has to
>go to Nucky/AR/Capone's boss for help. That's the ONLY way I
>see out of this.

It's gonna be that things become such a mess so quickly under Jimmy's watch, that everyone, Jimmy included, is going to beg Nucky to come back.

With Manny, I see him hitting back hard and probably taking out Harrow. Then Jimmy ends up going to Nucky, who then sends Sleater to (successfully) kill Manny.

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310. "Chalky White, niggas"
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yo that guy that plays Richard is a good actor, seriously
you'd think that mask is really his and shit, I hope he gets on more shit because he's probably the most underrated actor on tv to me

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311. "when did Jimmy make fun of Harrow?"
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312. "yea, I gotta go back and check for that 'cause I didn't see it"
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313. "I don't think he did. At least not knowingly."
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I think Harrow was referencing Jimmy's "We'll get you fixed up and get you a girl." I think tha boy Rich thought Jimmy was mocking him when he said that, even though that wasn't Jimmy's intent.

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314. "this is what i figured it was"
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>I think Harrow was referencing Jimmy's "We'll get you fixed
>up and get you a girl." I think tha boy Rich thought Jimmy was
>mocking him when he said that, even though that wasn't Jimmy's
>intent.

he also said something about getting him a new mask that wasn't so beat up

  

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315. "how does it feel to have everything?"
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Jimmy doesn't even know what Harrow wants -- and they're supposed to be friends. Jimmy's idea of a "nice girl" is some leftover whore they meet at a fight, whereas Richard wants the family life that Jimmy has and takes for granted.

I thought it spoke to the growing disconnect between the two. either Jimmy gets Richard killed, Richard lets Jimmy get killed or they both live and simply split ways.

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323. "nah he knows he wants a nice girl"
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but he still didn't want him to feel left out from the groupie love

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330. "and what's Jimmy done to that end?"
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nothing. he's pulling Richard into a war with Manny and throwing him skanks. it's just more empty promises from a friend who really isn't.

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321. "that what I think it was too."
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Rich sees that shit as so improbable that he thought Jimmy was just fuckin' w/him when he said that.

Great characterization for him. I feel so bad for him. He loves Jimmy, and Jimmy is a plumb fool.

smh

He'd be better off w/Nucky.

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316. "Jimmy is uncontrollable right now. He's worse than Capone"
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I wonder who the jewish butcher is shooting in the preview
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317. "Butch took a shottie to the shoulder"
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ol' boy took a cleaver to the head
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318. "lol he kinda got drug in the shop yo"
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I really fuckin love Horovitz...like I love everything about him. He's an incredible character already

  

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320. "Me too!"
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>I really fuckin love Horovitz...like I love everything about
>him. He's an incredible character already

I'ma hate to see him go.

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331. "kinda? he pulled that nigga thru the glass, B"
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nigg should've just cancelled the shit when he didn't hit him
on some 'awww fuck I ain't going in there, you crazy?' type shit
who could blame him?

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324. "word...why couldnt he shoot him through the glass?"
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anyway i'm glad dude isn't dead. he's a great character.

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319. "He is fucking up in the way he's dealing with Manny"
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This dude is nuts and all he wants is what he paid you for all that time ago.

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325. "yea it's like he learned absolutely nothing from Nucky"
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between jimmy, the brother, and now this irish dude it's like Nucky can't choose solid wing men for shit

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327. "German homie has got his back tho..."
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329. "Owen's all business so he doesn't care either way..."
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the other two just felt slighted by Nucky for one reason or another. He shows no love so he doesnt get much back. It's his gift and curse.

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328. "RE: Jimmy is uncontrollable right now. He's worse than Capone"
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>I wonder who the jewish butcher is shooting in the preview
>next few episodes are going be crazy

My prediction is he takes out Jimmy's wife.

  

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340. "damnnnnn"
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348. "He truly is 'The One'"
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the_one
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389. "cold blooded how it went down too!"
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322. "http://gifsoup.com/view4/3162865/fresh-killed-meat-l.gif"
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peep the sign

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326. "i think Harrow might take a bullet for Jimmy"
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at the hands of the Butcher.
we all know Harrow won't make it.
we all know they won't kill Jimmy.
and we all know the Butcher is taking someone's heads off.

...it could happen.

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332. "I could see this happening."
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333. "Random observation: Mickey Doyle's laugh is GOLDEN."
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It's that high-pitched, Woody Woodpeckerian laugh you'd just expect to be owned by a snake bastard. Anyone peep how it sounded a bit reserved this past week after Jimmy fucked him up? Shit cracks me up every time.

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themaddfapper
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354. "funniest moment this season"
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when Jimmy told Manny "I just have creamsicles in mine"

and fucking Doyle laughed appropriately and inappropriately at the same time.

that laugh was fucking PERFECT.

I either want to laugh at his laughs, or slap the shit out of him, which sums Mickey up perfectly.

  

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334. "I AM SO DEPRESSED!!!!!!"
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Omg!!!!!!!!!!!

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335. "HE WAS A REGULAR WHITE MAN!!"
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that line killed me....asshole....


...in all honesty i shoulda seen that death coming...all the signs were there....i like the butcher up til now tho...good job on the shows part gettin part of the audience to really root for jimmy again...even tho i can't say i feel sorry for him, he's an idiot and alla this is his own fault...

...LOL at them whiteys not wantin to give the black workers a 5 cent raise, but gettin some racists wit bats to try and handle the problem...i bet them whiteboys did that forr free!

**oh, and Teddy woulda prolly got worse than a slap if that were me....

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337. "you realize that's how all strikes were dealt with right?"
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men are so simple, and so subject to present necessities, that he who seeks to deceive will always find someone who will allow himself to be deceived. (c)Niccolò Machiavelli

  

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338. "SEE: post #295 n/m"
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"yes, sometimes my rhymes are sexist, but you lovely bitches and hos should know i'm tryin to correct it"- hiphopopotamus

  

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336. "looked like Horowitz changed Doyle's mind..."
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...blew out Angie's and f*cked up Jimmy's all in one swoop. DAMN!!!

nobody's gonna come away unscathed:

-- Jimmy is FRIED! he's not capable of runnin' SHIT! nobody respects him. i wouldn't be surprised if Richard has lost respect for him too.

-- Mrs. Schroeder? she's just a "la la la la-la-la-la-la-la..."

-- Eli gon' make another dumb mistake. dunno if he gon' snitch on Nuck, but for him to allow a fellow officer to get beat...not a good move.

-- i actually feel bad for the black folk. they just sheep in all this. not even pawns. at least pawns have an understanding of how they're s'pose to move. Chalky is the "good" shepherd...i guess.

next episode should be REALLY, really good!

  

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dunk
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339. "wow"
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Because of $5000... Jimmy screwed up everything and I can see him and Horwitz being killed by the end of the season.

Everyone except Nucky seems like they're going to get fucked over by the end of the season. Some how Nucky is going to escape the major charges. I don't know how but he will.

Luciano and the gang will branch out on their own. By the time Jimmy stormed out of the meeting it was clear from everyone's shared stares that they have zero faith in Jimmy's leadership. Everyone's going to say fuck it and return to their native cities to take over. Atlantic City is a barren land for them as long as Nucky is manipulating string behind the scenes.

  

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mrhood75
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341. ""All you have is your health...""
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I figured out who the person in the shower was going to be before it happened. That was some cold-blooded shit. I never did like Angela's whining or her two-faced bullshit, but that was still fucked up.

I'm aware Jimmy's digging his own hole here, but he sure gets shit advice from all these other morons (using the strike-breakers was really dumb, but at least he sort of salvaged that situation). Regardless, dude REALLY needs to learn when is the proper time to use violence, 'cause he's fucking up all over the place.

I co-signed the idea that Richard may end up dying in Jimmy's war with Manny, but I may revise that. I can't imagine Jimmy losing his wife and his best friend over this. Especially as it may be that Jimmy himself is heading to death's door because of $5,000.

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344. "I gotta agree. I think this puts Richard back in full Hulk mode."
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>I co-signed the idea that Richard may end up dying in Jimmy's
>war with Manny, but I may revise that. I can't imagine Jimmy
>losing his wife and his best friend over this.

Richard doesn't have much to live for but he worships the idea of a family. The fact that someone walked in and killed Jimmy's wife, the only female character that's ever shown him genuine affection...

This just cements their bond. With Jimmy's harpy mother probably going 'Ehh, just get over that bitch', he's going to be the rock in that situation.

  

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351. "richard is totally poppin the butcher"
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Cuz he loved angela

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342. "pass the damn popcorn."
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southphillyman
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343. "kinda surprised ppl are sad jimmys wife got murked"
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her getting killed in the midst of doing dirt kinda emphasized how much of a sleazeball character she was
i actually WANTED the butcher to pull the trigger on her and take her out of her misery
the line before he shot her was gangsta too. process that thought on your way to hell kinda thing
last two episodes should be crazy


1 thing i didn't get was the fat cop being set up by Eli

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345. "I think I get it, but its just kind of excessive play for Eli imho"
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>1 thing i didn't get was the fat cop being set up by Eli

The feds interviewed the fat cop about Nucky killing Ms.Shroeder's husband. While the person they want is really Nucky, I guess since Eli and the fat cop technically did the killing and disposing he's afraid that if he snitches it's going to bring him down also.

It makes sense cause the fat cop is stupid enough to think he can turn evidence and they would only prosecute Nucky...but it was still a very violent warning.

  

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346. "not sad but I see it as a cop out, giving Jimmy an obvious heads up"
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how did he not see something like this coming? I said this in a post last week... they made it a point earlier this season to show Jimmy meeting with the Butcher making it obvious the butcher was not a dude to be fucked with, yet Jimmy completely disregards that and sticks the dude for 5 g's? Now his wife pays the price but it'll be a wake up call to Jimmy and ultimately lead to his survival imo.

It was obvious that Jimmy was not the 1 in the shower, and though I figured it was the lesbian, I was hoping it was Richard... that would've been ill...

  

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347. "I knew it was the lesbian off top"
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It could have been Jimmy, but I assumed since it seemed to be late night, I figured he was gone already.
but I didn't even think of this.

>I was hoping it was Richard... that would've been ill...

But it makes me think where is Richard?
It looked like Jimmy making the run alone.
Wouldn't he either take Richard with him, or leave Richard at the house to protect his family?
What was the significance of showing him rolling to Princeton? Was he at or supposed to go to school there before the war?

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352. "Nuck got him into Princeton, and Jimmy went to the war instead"
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349. "Yeah that last line was gangsta as fuck"
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That cat does not play around

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350. "it was a sad death scene whether you like her or not..."
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her crying like that was kinda sad...especially since she had nothing to do with the beef and was completely innocent in that scenario. her infidelity or whatever had nothing to do with her getting killed by dude. its a bad way to go out and she does have a kid that she loves and cares for.

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355. "people in here actin like she DESERVED to die...."
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over someone like jimmy, eli, nucky, young irish, etc....

...she had secrets just like the rest of the characters...killing her justifies Richard or Jimmy killing Horowitz....

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363. "everyone on this show has DEMONS. they all deserve to die really"
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maybe that's an underlying theme or something. iono if it's intentional or what
but dude above mentioned that she begged for her life and had a son, etc
did yall forget that she tried to leave her son to go live in france with some lesbian chick?
none of these characters are clean and they will all pay the cost in the end i think

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364. "i would argue that she's one of the main characters that didnt"
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deserve to die. any wrong she did pales in comparison to everything the other characters are doing. she hasnt killed anyone or really even hurt anyone. all she's done is be unfaithful to a man who was gone for years and she hardly even knows at this point.

also, wasn't she going to take her son with her to France? i vaguely remember her packing a bag for the kid...could be wrong though.

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370. "Exactly"
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Yeah she was annoyingly pathetic because of her feeble attempts
But she had a lot going against her



Spades I told you jimmy was going to get her killed and she knew it

Jimmy's a dumbass
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371. "that's reason enough for someone to deserve something as permanent"
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>did yall forget that she tried to leave her son to go live in
>france with some lesbian chick?

...as death?

the fuck type of person are you?

  

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375. "LOL...it's cold up i here"
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..and that didn't even happen...she was gonna take the kid too...

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377. "u realize this is a tv show right. and ppl get killed every week....."
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her character was annoying and *somebody* had to get killed last week
have no problem with it being her, sorry

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379. "Umm she was taking tommy to france and leaving jimmy"
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she was a good mother. and a down ass chick.

i ride for angie. i ride for jimmy too. they just suck as a married couple.

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372. "nothing she did warranted killing her."
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you can't be serious lol.

  

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353. "yooooooooooooooooooooooooooo"
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Yo....like WTF Manny DAMN. And he made sure they were dead too

- Chalkyyyyyyyyy my guy!

- Margie has lost it...I'm SO over her.

- Nucky facial expressions are hilarious. I'm still laughing at the way he looked when the harlot brought that baby in

- Poor cherub cop...They worked his ass. Did Eli tell them to?

- Eli is such an idiot...why was he in the jail cell tho?

idk what else to say. Manny is so cold tho got damn

  

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themaddfapper
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356. "from the GD post:"
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we forget sometimes how young Jimmy is

and that's not to say there aren't young captains of industry in legal/illegal businesses.

however the old capo, Commodore's homey, keeps alluding to how much he admires Nucky's skill. Jimmy is just right hand order carrying out material. For the time being. the power vacuum created with his father stroking out was the worst thing for him.

too much, too soon.

And Manny I don't blame. he got stiffed. Jimmy threw his man off a balcony to send a message. he was then nearly killed. He had to kill jimmy. had to. that jimmy's wife was creeping was unfortunate, however he couldn't leave a witness. Being murdered is better than going to jail, so she had to go.

That Angela shit is like some Steve McNair shit, but 1000x worse. Your wife, cheating on you, with a woman, in 1920's America? War won't even begin to decribe what's about to go down.

The Margaret storyline. eh. whatever, bitch. I've liked her, i've not liked her, and now I'm bored. Is she or is she not still fucking sleater? will guilt cause her to drop dime on Nucky at some point, forcing him to make a tough decision? THOSE are things I wanna know. Her moping around for an episode? I'm good, thanks.

Now with Halloran, lest we forget that the Schroeder murder is the least of Eli's issues. Remember the dude he killed in the garage? Halloran was in on THAT, and that he can squarely lay on Eli, and probably walk on an obstruction of justice charge. The other thing (Schroeder) is his word vs. Eli's, and it would have him crossing Nuck in AC, which Im sure he's not willing to do. Though he's a meathead, so him doing something stupid isn't out of the question, and its why he got beat.

Dunn Pernsley. Somethings really wrong with that nigga(c)Curtis I hope either this season or next, he gets an expanded role at Chalky's #2.

  

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365. "Eli buried that body on his own though..."
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it would still be his word against Eli's if there's no body found. the shroeder murder was made public by the body appearing in the water.

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376. "Naw Eli called cherub cop for help with that body"
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Cuz remember cherub cop asked who was under the tarp and Eli replied "the mayor"

  

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388. "to help him get it out of his garage and into the car..."
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when he actually buried dude he was alone

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380. "True, dude really stepped into this before he was ready"
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And now we're seeing the results. All because he wouldn't just give Manny what he paid for.

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381. "he was willing to give Reamus 60K, but stiffed Manny 5?"
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if that aint the stupidest fucking thing you ever heard. Munya told him he wasn't to be trifled with. In as many ways you can tell a man before you have to kill his wife and her lover.

  

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383. "Right, from the moment we met him"
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Manny seemed like a dangerous dude. Jimmy was too dumb to see that I guess.

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386. "major co-sign on margaret, 20 minutes an ep spent on her lame ass"
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getting real sick of it

  

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357. "So I'm just gonna call this now..."
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...Angie's death leads to Jimmy getting hooked on Heroin. Right?

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358. "RE: So I'm just gonna call this now..."
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it's possible, I mean until someone earlier reminded me of the whole prostitute side angle I'd forgotten all about her, but then I remembered that Jimmy spent some time hanging out in those opium dens after she got sliced up, so he's definitely got a history of using hard drugs to get over some heavy shit. I could definitely see Jimmy ending up taking a test run of that heroin and losing his shit over it.


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359. "That certainly makes sense"
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When Lucky and Meyer showed him the heroin, my mind immediately went to, "Jimmy's going to get hooked on this next season." But I didn't make the connection that the death of his wife will be the cause.

I also think Jimmy's going to officially go down the road of incest next week, as evidenced by the teaser for next week's episode with his mom saying, "We don't have to tell anyone about what just happened."

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360. "I hate y'all teaser watchin' + postin' people"
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luckily it only happens once in a blue moon here and I totally forgot someone dropped dime on Manny having a gun somewhere last week, but there's no way I'm gonna forget what you just said

ugh.

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361. "Oh, I didn't realzie discussing teasers was taboo"
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C'mon, the idea of Manny having a gun certainly wasn't outlandish this week.

And I could certainly be wrong with my prediction. That shit could be used in many a context.

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362. "Nah, even hes kinda skeeved out about his moms closeness"
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>I also think Jimmy's going to officially go down the road of
>incest next week, as evidenced by the teaser for next week's
>episode with his mom saying, "We don't have to tell anyone
>about what just happened."

Didn't he make a side comment a few episodes ago alluding that it sucks having a 'hot' moms

  

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374. "His moms type rapey though"
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I can easily see her taking advantage of his weakness
On some drunk high off drugs and she swoops in
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400. "^^^The Psychic 'To Catch A Predator'"
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>I can easily see her taking advantage of his weakness
>On some drunk high off drugs and she swoops in

Ugh tho. Just ugh.

  

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407. "I sorta called it before that."
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Though I imagine we both assumed (or at least certainly I did) that she was going to take advantage of him while he was grieving, not during a flashback.

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390. "I didn't watch the teaser, but..."
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>I also think Jimmy's going to officially go down the road of
>incest next week, as evidenced by the teaser for next week's
>episode with his mom saying, "We don't have to tell anyone
>about what just happened."

...they always edit that shit to make you think something wild happened and it's nothing. She was probably speaking about Angie being naked with Louise.

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366. "i want chalky 2 get the 3 crackers delivered 2 him"
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gimme that and im good

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367. "word...that'd be dope"
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if jimmy's gonna make a bad move that angers the whites it might as well be that one

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368. "no one thinks Harrow might have it in for Jimmy?"
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on the surface it looks like he killed his wife and her lover in a jealous rage.
Rich won't be too happy about that prospect.

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369. "Where was Harrow?"
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i thought he was w/jimmy or at the crib.

he knows jimmy was gone so he can't think he killed angela. he has lost a little faith in jimmy but harrow probably knows manny did it and wants him dead.

i'm not sure harrow survives this season.

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378. "i don't think he's that complicated a character"
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outside of him wanting to kill himself
and the scene where he allowed himself to be painted, dude has pretty much been on rails on the show
maybe i'm glossing over him when i watch. iono
but i really don't see him getting out of his lane

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373. "Ugh I knew that dumbass was gonna get her killed"
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382. "Great episode ...Jimmy aint smart enough and Eli is fucked"
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I loved the Chalky/ pernsley scene
I'm also glad they use pernsley more I think that dude is a very good actor

Lol @ margret laying the hand of god on my man
He deserved that shit though

Smdh at margret pulling a Mrs Payne/rev rilo goodlove

Jimmy pisses me off how much he underestimates people
Now how do u forget my man BEEN to your house
And you KNOW he is still alive after an unsucessful hit
Wouldn't you at least have Richard watch the house?

Forget all this cold hearted postering ngz doing in here
I was genuinely sad when ang got popped
Also called the lover being in the shower

It was sad how manny was torn on doing it
That cat does a good job with him ..everytime I see him though I think of American me

I would recommend watching on demand the inside the show segments afterward are really interesting

  

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384. "Horowitz never been to Jimmy's..."
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...he's been to the Commodore's house. that's where they had the bear scene when Jimmy felt "insulted."

  

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385. "Remus was the one who met @ Jimmy's house"
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He asked - do you always work out of your house?
Jimmy replied - I'm still looking for an office.



>...he's been to the Commodore's house. that's where they had
>the bear scene when Jimmy felt "insulted."

...and if you listen hard enough I say some things - Jeezy

  

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387. "pernsley is this years harrow, minor character stealing the show"
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that better have a way bigger role next season

  

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391. "CHICKENNN . . . MASH POTATOES . . . CHOCKLIT PUDDING . ."
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>that better have a way bigger role next season


  

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392. "he's got that old 1800s countrified swagger"
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395. "I wonder if he'll try to snake Chalk for the asswhoopin he took in jail"
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like try to take his spot and shit later on

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397. "I thinking that's gonna happen next season"
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Purnsley laying the groundwork, but he still hasn't done nearly enough for the community to take Chalky's spot. I'm willing to bet he'll take his shot eventually.

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393. "gangsters aren't made, they're born that way..."
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..everyone else is just pretending

its like sex appeal. you can try all you want, but bein' sexy isn't somethin' you can create. its inherent. its natural.

same thing goes for gangsters. everybody's not built for that kinda life. you have a lot of people who yearn for the opportunity, only to waste it foolishly. they lack the poise. the stamina. the patience.

in the end, they fall prey to their own misdeeds 'cause they're careless, or worse: they're afraid.

gangsters use violence to make a statement. its never glorified. its not a show of power or strength. power is when you don't have to resort to violence. violence is always personal.

nucky thompson is a gangster

arnold rothstein is a gangster

manny horvitz is a gangster

the rest of those cats are just pretending...
..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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394. "Bad analogy, but I get your point"
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>..everyone else is just pretending
>
>its like sex appeal. you can try all you want, but bein' sexy
>isn't somethin' you can create. its inherent. its natural.


lotta unsexy chicks can transform to sexy quite easily



  

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396. "not at all..."
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..sexy can not be created

you can create the appearance of anything, but that doesn't make it so

sexy is not appearance alone. its the culmination of style, elegance, confidence, and appeal.

you can fool the fools, but you can't fake that...

  

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398. "Damn, Margaret gave that whole wad of dough to a swindling priest..."
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SMH

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399. "OH YES THEY DID"
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401. "You called it."
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Motherfucking disgusting.

But you called it.

  

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415. "Maaaaaan listen"
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That woman?
Sheeeeit that woman is pure poison


It would be messed up if Gretchen mol gets an Emmy off of this
But she is doing her damn job
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402. ":-("
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416. ":("
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403. "even as it was happening i didnt think they'd take it there"
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but they damn sure did

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404. "yep, I was like, this is perfectly awkward"
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actually, the way they did it, I was disappointed

I would have liked it better if he'd left, or she'd forced herself on him and he'd denied her and ran out confused about his whole life

this whole episode was, eh, kind of sloppy if I'm gonna be honest. Especially the Commodore's death, that came off like a dream sequence to me. and what did Jimmy do in Princeton? It felt like that situation should have been saved for next episode, I had the feeling Jimmy wouldn't be back in AC at all.

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408. "i agree...real weird ep"
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i also agree that i expected him to push her off him and run out or something but then again if he had their current relationship would make no sense

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405. "In a list of fucked up crazy things that happened in that episode..."
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...I don't even know where to rank that.

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410. "turrible..."
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..the wretched (c) clair


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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419. "I think I may be as equally traumatized as Jimmy after seeing that."
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428. ""...who killed his father to marry his mother""
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jesus christ. when they walked into the boarding room after the party/fight, i turned to my brother and said "i don't like where this is going one bit" and he said "why?....oh"

then that train started-a-chuggin'. Jesus christ, what a scene. "it's not wrong. it's not wrong" "I'll remember! I'll remember! I'll remember! I'll remember!"

wow. what an episode. So glad we got to see some more Angela. So sad she got played like that.

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406. "I... I don't what to say or where to start. Just damn..."
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409. "that hour was a series of fucked up events...have to watch it again"
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kinda figured it....wanna see how it ends next week....

  

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411. "That episode was awesome"
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incest withstanding lol. Van Alden being exposed for drowning his partner and then fleeing the station. Ol' girl walking in on cheatin-ass Margaret's conversation with Ol' boy (You know thats getting back to Nucky). The Comodore getting stabbed and then "finished off" at the request of Jimmy's mom. Yes, the incest was weird as fuck but I don't think we all knew how much of a manipulator Jimmy's mom was until tonight. The final scene with her carrying her grandson up the stairs to tuck him into bed just like she used to do Jimmy while Jimmy just stares at her like a helpless pawn?! That's good ass tv right there.

  

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413. "RE: That episode was awesome"
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> Ol' girl walking in
>on cheatin-ass Margaret's conversation with Ol' boy (You know
>thats getting back to Nucky).

nah. most likely, margaret fires her to get her outta the house. from there, its her word against margaret, and that ain't much. if anything, margaret & owen will continue bein' sloppy and give in to an urge or few. that will ultimately be their undoing.

> The Comodore getting stabbed and
>then "finished off" at the request of Jimmy's mom. Yes, the
>incest was weird as fuck but I don't think we all knew how
>much of a manipulator Jimmy's mom was until tonight. The final
>scene with her carrying her grandson up the stairs to tuck him
>into bed just like she used to do Jimmy while Jimmy just
>stares at her like a helpless pawn?! That's good ass tv right
>there.

gillian has been the master manipulator for quite some time now, so its no surprise to anyone. she's continuing this sick/twisted cycle she started long ago, and jimmy's dumbass is watchin' it happen.


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414. "wonderful episode.....you forget where she says ..'i'll be upstairs'"
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a lot of things happened in this episode.....will be interesting to see how the dust settles.....i feel like the professor who is like: this is not happening....and Jimmy replies: 'It is happening'.....a lot of stuff happened....

  

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459. "so disturbing but so amazing."
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jimmy strangling his mom with the "i'll remember" line...... i needed to see that to make me feel a little better.

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412. "quiet reminders..."
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..every series has them, and thats exactly what this was

margaret is NOT a ride or die jawn. as soon as shit gets real concerning HER directly, she folds like a schoolgirl, racin' to erase her sins. she's a conflicted woman, and in that sense, can never be truly trusted.

nucky's future depends on how he responds to this info.

speakin' of nucky, i never thought he was in serious jeopardy, considerin' all the dirt lyin' under rugs, but the violence unfoldin' right now just might make him look like a saint when the dust clears. atlantic city is turnin' to shit without him holdin' the reigns.

that carriage is completely outta control in jimmy's hands, and jimmy is puddy in the hands (and every OTHER body part) of his mother. further more, he's an idiot out to prove that he can lead without the help of his father, mother, or nucky.

he's can't.

as a matter of fact, the only reason he survives this war with manny horvitz is richard's devotion to angela. they've shown the softer side of an assassin, now we can only hope they show the true nature of a sniper.

and on top of all that, nucky's a few steps (or whispers) away from findin' out about margaret's trist.

van alden's completely shit the bed and crazy like bird on a wire. should be interesting to see if he ends up in a padded cell.

are you not entertained?

lulz


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417. "Margaret needs that Cher from moonstruck slap"
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Snap out of it!


I can't wait for Richard to get rolling
Messing with dudes fantasies like that?
It's about to be on


That FBI dude...I can't
Dudes nuttier than a fruitcake
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431. "ain't enough slaps in the world..."
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>Snap out of it!

she is who she is, and she's really not cut out for this. eventually, nucky's gonna have to choose: a life as a boss, or a life with her & the kids.

>I can't wait for Richard to get rolling
>Messing with dudes fantasies like that?
>It's about to be on

yep!

>That FBI dude...I can't
>Dudes nuttier than a fruitcake

actually, van alden is margaret with a badge and an overdose of leverage/power. she basically did the same thing when she had pull with the women's league/church, and fucked nucky over the 1st chance she got. he firmly put her in her place, and you see where THAT'S gotten him.


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460. "i cannot wait to see what richard gets into tonite."
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i don't think they'll end the season without him avenging angela's death.

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418. "s2e11 is so far the best of the series imo"
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This episode was a huge payoff for the pacing of the series, and all the ambiguity and unknown concerning Jimmy and his relationships.

they have been hinting the incest the entire series, but I always assumed it was going to happen in real time. the fact that it happened back in the day and essentially pushed Jimmy into the war resolves a lot of tension. It's undoubtably fucked up, but it is as big a climax (no pun) as the series has seen through this ep.

The flashbacks were great for Jimmy and Angela as well. Until this point both of them had made countless missteps in their relationship, but this put into context all of the tension that we saw but didn't fully understand. After going back and forth so many time as to who was to blame for their troubles, i cant really fault either one of them at this point.

And i didn't have a problem with the murder of the Commador. I think Jimmy's first steps into herion were illustrated perfectly...his mom going on with her same shit while he was obviously in in shambles was great, Pitt's eyes in that scene told his entire story thus far.

Looks like Van Alden might actually become somewhat of a player now that he's on his own.

Harrow and Jimmy are gonna do some work next episode...the butcher, and what looks like some clansmen

  

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420. "This season is exponentially better than the first."
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After the first season, I decided I was going to keep
watching because it was the HBO child of Scorsese, had
cool historical characters, gangsterish things and other
forms of aesthetically pleasing features.

Season two, however, has all that stuff with about 100
times more more substance incorporated. Where I didn't
really care about what would happen to any of the
characters, I am now finding myself thinking about the
fates of every single person on the show. Whether I
hate them or love them, this season has me feeling some
kind of way about everyone now. I'm curious about whether
the writers got together and changed the presentation
of the show intentionally or if this was just a by-product
of the show's natural growth out of it's introductory phase.
Whatever it is, this show has jumped from a show I like
to one of my favorite shows of all time.

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461. "exactly :)"
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421. "Gillian Appreciation Reply."
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Quiet as kept, she's becoming the most fascinating character on the show and the one that's gone through the most 'growth' as the show has gone on, and she's become a true villainess.

I don't even think the writers had an idea on her turn considering in the first season she wasn't even part of the main cast credits and was just a 'special guest'.

For such a promiscuous character, what I find interesting is that I don't find her falling for the same traps as other television harlots...while on the surface she's the way men would perceive a whore at the time, somehow they drew the character in a way where it doesn't come off as misogynistic. There's something oddly empowering and focused about the way she uses sexuality. Even with fucking Jimmy it was coldly calculated; it effectively deaded whatever relationship he was building with Angela.

Like look where she's gone in the last year; from a showgirl to weaseling her way into the power grab jimmy is making. Margaret has done the same thing in the year, but that's due to Nucky's softspot for her as much as her cunning. Gillian has pretty much put herself where she's at through force of fucking will, and has stuck her tentacles wherever she can to make sure she's going nowhere (nursing the Commodore when he was 'poisoned', her veiled threat to Jimmy about his kid, etc).

She's just great television.

  

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422. "I was gonna make this exact same post"
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gretchen mol was the "it" girl when rounders came out, and then...kinda faded.

this has to be her emmy submission episode, and just a nom would reward how great her work has been.

as i stated earlier in this thread, she's...touched like shit. She's almost like a siren. At times you see the red hair and the eyes and the smile and she's totally disarming. And then in a moment you see a flicker of the demon inside. The character truly unnerves me.

I wasnt even creeped out by the sex, per se.
it was the total lack of boundaries.

What weirded me out more than the sex, was her lack of regard for her son. Utter lack of regard.

Showing up to his school, in that dress, flirting and holding court, fooling around with a professor, and by the by, almost egging jimmy on to beat his ass.

He got away to do something decent, and she dragged him into her fuckery.

Pinko said re: Gillian the sanest thing she's done on the show was beat the Commodores ass. And he was right. it showed one true emotion.

She's a sociopath with no capacity for people. None. His kid is now to call her 'Mommy?" "Go on and finish it already?" The way she did Richard, in both calling him a simpleton, and then commissioning him to do the cleanup?

And then again, I empathize. At 13-14 her innocence was lost. Is this her turning on Jimmy the same way Commodore turned on her?

fascinating character.

  

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430. "The Richard thing was so cold imo"
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I'm like "she not gonna even apologize and tell him that was for the benefit of the cop?".

Like she actually BELIEVES that.

smh

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432. "i felt so bad for him"
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considering the only person who was compassionate to him died violently, this bitch doesn't give a fuck, and she insults me.

now with his massive insecurity, what if he's thinking that's the way Jimmy talks to his mother about me?

her capacity for giving a fuck about people is nil.

  

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437. "Exactly what I thought"
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It seems like my heart bleeds for him at least 1x an episode.

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425. "her voice is oh so sweet"
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she is actually fucking understated

she isn't forceful unless at the absolute moment(s) need to tip jimmy over the cliff


FINISH IT DAMMIT


she is a poisonous velvet glove
horrid woman

well played Ms Mol
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433. "agree/disagree..."
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..i certainly appreciate the depth of her character, but i disagree about the growth.

its been there all along.

you saw it in the first season, even if her screen time was short. it was obvious that she knew men in power never took women seriously durin' that era, and she was hell bent on carving her own niche.

she targeted the commodore, made sure she had his child, and then proceeded to groom that child and secure a power position. she's been quietly playin' puppeteer all along, waitin' patiently for the perfect opportunity to strike, without drawing too much attention to herself.

she's the ultimate enemy in this series, and the most dangerous adversary simply because no one views her as a legitimate threat since she's a woman.


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434. "hol up Cy"
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>she targeted the commodore, made sure she had his child, and
>then proceeded to groom that child and secure a power
>position.

She was chosen by the commodore.
was she "innocent" prob not. we all know "fass ass" young girls.

however she was raped. not just statutory. by force. against her will. one moment dreaming of the beach, the next a grown man covering her mouth in the dead of night and violating her.

that she used it to her advantage is clear. and hell, her looks and wiles are what have gotten her so far.

however targeting him. nah.
she's getting by the best way she knows how. that way is terribly fucked up, but it works. its the cost of it, tho. It's cost so much, and it's the Commodore's fault.

  

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439. "nope..."
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>She was chosen by the commodore.
>was she "innocent" prob not. we all know "fass ass" young
>girls.
>
>however she was raped. not just statutory. by force. against
>her will. one moment dreaming of the beach, the next a grown
>man covering her mouth in the dead of night and violating
>her.
>
>that she used it to her advantage is clear. and hell, her
>looks and wiles are what have gotten her so far.
>
>however targeting him. nah.
>she's getting by the best way she knows how. that way is
>terribly fucked up, but it works. its the cost of it, tho.
>It's cost so much, and it's the Commodore's fault.

nah, yo

while the commodore certainly isn't a saint, i don't believe for one minute that gillian wasn't in complete control all along. she knew what she was doin', and she put herself in position to make moves.

rape is atrocious.

that bein' said, she knew the kind of men she was dealin' with, and put herself on display to get their attention with the sole purpose of gettin' over usin' any and every advantage she could find.

i certainly understand how she altered her plans along the way, though. any dreams she might've had about gettin' over on the commodore went out the window once he raped her. since then, she's been plottin' his demise (she damn-near killed him on her own). at the same time, she's been playin' jimmy and puttin' him into position to rise in power, while remainin' the puppeteer behind the scenes.

that's well beyond "gettin' by"


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440. "RE: nope..."
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>nah, yo
>
>while the commodore certainly isn't a saint, i don't believe
>for one minute that gillian wasn't in complete control all
>along. she knew what she was doin', and she put herself in
>position to make moves.
>
>rape is atrocious.
>
>that bein' said, she knew the kind of men she was dealin'
>with, and put herself on display to get their attention with
>the sole purpose of gettin' over usin' any and every advantage
>she could find.
>
>i certainly understand how she altered her plans along the
>way, though. any dreams she might've had about gettin' over on
>the commodore went out the window once he raped her. since
>then, she's been plottin' his demise (she damn-near killed him
>on her own). at the same time, she's been playin' jimmy and
>puttin' him into position to rise in power, while remainin'
>the puppeteer behind the scenes.
>
>that's well beyond "gettin' by"
>
>
>..and miles to go before i sleep...


so as we're armchair psychoanalyzing, I think we're in the same place.
As a youngin, did she make the most of her looks and youth by being fast and in a place to be chose? Sure.

I'm saying the hardening of that ambition, the cruelty, the straight sociopathy was not in the initial placement in the Commodore's gaze. It was being a young girl raped and dumped with a baby in the early 1900's.

And by "get by" I mean she has no other understanding as to how to live. None. it's not that she's callous, it's her lack of awareness that's so frightening. And shit, to get to this point, doing what she's done, there's no way to tell her right from wrong.

I see her manipulation as less a means of overt cunning, and more a survival tactic/M.O.

damaged people damage people
hurt people hurt people

she couldnt be "good" to Jimmy or anyone else if she tried. Though she's of the impression that she is. She's just straight fucked up, B.

  

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448. "my problem with your point..."
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..is that you point out that this is "all she knows"

let's pretend that she ever held honorable intentions regarding the commodore. take in consideration the rape, subsequent pregnancy and birth of a child, and fallout of bein' pushed aside like nothin' ever happened.

this is a woman of means.

what she might lack in certain areas, she certainly makes up for in cunning, savvy, and drive. she has the intelligence, hustle, and means to make her mark anywhere. could've latched on to another businessman/politician/socialite. could've moved far from the life of tortured existence under the thumb of a man who saw her as nothin' more than a harlot.

instead, she stayed.

because she was on a mission. and if we've learned nothin' else of her character, its clear that her determination knows no equal.

this woman is a bonafide chess master. she's already 7 moves ahead...


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450. "RE: my problem with your point..."
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>..is that you point out that this is "all she knows"
>
>let's pretend that she ever held honorable intentions
>regarding the commodore. take in consideration the rape,
>subsequent pregnancy and birth of a child, and fallout of
>bein' pushed aside like nothin' ever happened.
>
>this is a woman of means.

let's qualify means. Means as in from good stock, family-wise? Or intelligence?


>what she might lack in certain areas, she certainly makes up
>for in cunning, savvy, and drive. she has the intelligence,
>hustle, and means to make her mark anywhere. could've latched
>on to another businessman/politician/socialite. could've moved
>far from the life of tortured existence under the thumb of a
>man who saw her as nothin' more than a harlot.
>
>instead, she stayed.



see you're talking this "could've" In Ireland the unwed moms were in Asylums. In Atlantic City they were strippers. You make it seem like there was a lot of choice. It was survive. And she honed an M.O. And in her mid to late 30's its not going to change.


Let's say she had jimmy in 1898-1900. Who was she latching onto as a teen mom in the early 1900's? You see how we treat single mothers NOW, let alone a class of people who couldn't even vote! Peep her relationship with the dude Jimmy asked about when she came to his school. Peep her interaction with his teacher. With Luciano. With the Commodore. Men who treat her like shit. Tends to happen to abused people. Remember in season 1 jimmy saying his mom "had a lot of friends" The only thing she has going with the Commodore is that he's old, and she's the mother of his son. Remember, they didn't reconnect until he got poisoned.

What do you think she had to do in those days to make sure she and Jimmy ate, aside from Nucky's help? The world was far more savage than we want to think. Dancin for strangers, possibly turning tricks. It's a survival instinct honed at a young age.

Name a move in her life that doesn't have a man attached to it.
She uses men. The way she was used.
She abused Jimmy (probably well before princeton) the way she was abused.
You see the sights she has on Tommy? Chick is a sexual predator.

>because she was on a mission. and if we've learned nothin'
>else of her character, its clear that her determination knows
>no equal.
>
>this woman is a bonafide chess master. she's already 7 moves
>ahead...
>

While we agree on her cunning and drive and savvy, I'm more prone to think that it's a byproduct of her life experiences and a means to an end.


And look at me defending the indefensible. In the first two seasons (well done by the writers) you're supposed to see her as a harlot, tramp, damaged goods. However she becomes part of all the power plays and gets closer and closer to the throne. And as she gets to the throne, you then see, that her Machiavellian schemes are likely the intertwined with mental illness, which makes it far fucking worse.


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451. "nah, player..."
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..you see her as reactionary, i see her in ACTION

different era, same script. i see how the writers spun this character, but the facts are simple:

she found her mark

regardless of how that mark played his hand, she knew to keep it close & keep it tight.

and if that didn't work out?

there will always be other marks.

*and just for the sake of clarity, once she had jimmy, she was always in the picture. perhaps in the background/shadows, but always looming. nucky was workin' for the commodore (as the sheriff). nuck felt guilty since he was the one who actually brought gillian to the commodore, and effectively became jimmy's godfather. gillian continued to prey on the men she sported. she didn't just happen to reconnect with the commodore, she was poisoning him. all of this, just waitin' for the opportunity to unseat him, and use jimmy to exact her rule.



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435. "We are on the same page."
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I just shouldn't have used 'growth' cause that implies that she didn't have it in her, which like you pointed it out, she ALWAYS had it in her...she was just in for the long con.

>she targeted the commodore, made sure she had his child, and
>then proceeded to groom that child and secure a power
>position. she's been quietly playin' puppeteer all along,
>waitin' patiently for the perfect opportunity to strike,
>without drawing too much attention to herself.
>
>she's the ultimate enemy in this series, and the most
>dangerous adversary simply because no one views her as a
>legitimate threat since she's a woman.

What I meant growth was her Machiavellian powerplay that she's pulled in these two seasons. She went from a showgirl to one of the most powerful characters in Atlantic City.

  

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436. "why do i think Nucky knows"
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>she's the ultimate enemy in this series, and the most
>dangerous adversary simply because no one views her as a
>legitimate threat since she's a woman.



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438. "he's always known..."
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..which is exactly why HE wasn't fuckin' her (lol)

he knew she'd lead to the downfall of the commodore, which gave way to his eventual rise to power.


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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462. "awesomely put, reg."
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423. "So I guess Van Alden is gonna take Doyle's offer?"
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he might take all 300k.

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424. "of what use is he?"
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as a lawman, he could offer protection, or commission an investigation.

now he's a disgraced agent on the run for murder.

unless mickey's a halfwit and Van Alden doesn't tell him he's on the run, drops an anonymous tip, and somehow gets the cash and jets with his kid.

  

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426. "This is what I was thinkning."
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>as a lawman, he could offer protection, or commission an
>investigation.
>
>now he's a disgraced agent on the run for murder.
>
>unless mickey's a halfwit and Van Alden doesn't tell him he's
>on the run, drops an anonymous tip, and somehow gets the cash
>and jets with his kid.

If he gets back to Mickey before the word gets out, he may have an opportunity to make a play for all of the 300k and get in the wind. Does he have a soft spot for the nanny or would he abandon her & the baby if he got away?

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427. "But, its Mickey Doyle....."
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Manny tried to choke some sense into him and he STILL ain't get the message about how he's being used. Capone called him a 'mope' to his face and...?

Not even a close-fisted slap to the little man

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auragin_boi
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429. "Nah...Mickey is a classic weasel"
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He gets in with the right crowd to seize the moment that he can snake them and flee.

Jimmy pushes him off a banister, he sticks around - he knows where the power is going to land.

Manny chokes him, prolly didn't do it for long, and he gives up Jimmy (which he prolly reluctantly did but he also knew Jimmy was out of town so he figured the wife would be collateral damage...and something to keep Jimmy busy while he set up his plan to rob them all via Van Alden).

Mickey plays weasel very well, unassuming, harmless (though he has used a pistol on this show), weak...until he runs off with your 300K and you never see him in AC again. lol

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441. "I thought this episode was too heavy/too dark."
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I wasn't really that interested and a bit creeped out at the incest scene.

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442. "motherfucker!"
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443. "Gretchen Mol might get an Emmy for this disgusting shit"
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First of all, LMAO at Van Alden shooting dude and dipping. He must have seen his life flash before his eyes.

Margaret has lost her damned mind. Nucky pulled a Weebay, "my word is STILL my word" lol poor Katie too

Ohhhhhh Jillian you slut. I hate her for everything she's ever done to Jimmy. How DARE she say Tommy won't even remember his mom knowing good and well she'd die if someone said that about her and Jimmy.

Poor Commodore...I didn't really see that coming.

Poor Richard....I'd kill Jillian tho dammit this is all her fault

Eli is up the fuckin creek it seems

Uhm...i loved what they did at the end with Jillian talking about "everything will be okay now" those words could have applied to the Princeton situation and the Commodore's death. But still fuck her tho

  

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444. "Jimmy has been upgraded back to smart dumb muthafucka"
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...from dumb muthafucka. U could tell he was sharp in the 1st season, but there was no trace of that this season. Now I see that the dumb mostly comes out, when his mom is around.

  

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445. "Damn, now that i think about it, i've been in jimmy's shoes b4"
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*no Oedipus-O*

...i've had a woman do something and me just spaz out on her ass like that....cept i wasn't trying to kill her, just get a very important point across...and it's a fucked up thing, but you gotta do it....no wonder that scene resonated with me so much...

anywho...great ep...i wasn't gonna say shit, but that epiphany hit me

van Alden was HILLARIOUS, but i'm really curious to see what he becomes if he isn't a man of the law anyore...

...btw, did the Commodore stab Jimmy with a bayonet??

...and yes, i'm all in with "Jimmy and Richard: The Big Payback"

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446. "^^^chokes bitches."
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447. "from gd: jimmy's mother is deluded"
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i'm pretty sure she thinks that she's now gonna be able to play at happy families with jimmy, raising tommy like she's his mother or something.

i'm back on team jimmy! he lost me last episode, but i want this to be the turning point for him.

i found it quite heartwarming the way richard dealt with the body/cleaning up & closed the curtains so jimmy wouldn't see.

van alden's escape was hilarious!

  

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449. "Has everyone already forgotten the horrible demons that Jillian lives wi..."
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I'm not excusing her for all the nasty shit she's pulled
but let's not forget that this is a woman that was sold
into prostitution and abused by rich, entitled men since
the age of 12. I don't expect anyone who has lived through
those experiences and circumstances to have any sort of
moral clarity or mental stability. Shit, just a few episodes
ago we were all sympathizing with her as she unleashed her
demons on the commodore's sick ass. I think the show is
pointing out the cyclical nature of abuse more than simply
trying to paint her character as purely bad or evil.

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452. "motherfucker"
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455. "What does motherfucker mean?"
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453. "oh cool, so lucky and jimmy are eskimo brothers"
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454. "LOL"
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456. "lol"
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The Analyst
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457. "I've just given in. Don't love the show, but compelled to watch..."
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At this point I've just given up on all of my still-persisting beefs with the show I try to just enjoy it on it's own terms.

I made a post earlier in this thread where I bitched saying that I really dislike most of the characters and I don't feel remotely compelled to root for any of them. That feeling persists, but now I just say fuck it.

I don't really have much to add to the discourse here, other than to say Mol's performance has been outstanding. Also, Van Alden's story line is by far my favorite on the show.

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458. "Holy Oedipus Batman"
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463. "she fucked him over"
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but was it for the whole share of land he owned?

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464. "damn"
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n/m

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mrhood75
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465. "I am NOT seeking forgiveness..."
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Just... damn. Damn. Damn. I'll be back later.

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466. "I feel terrible for Jimmy's son"
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His mom and dad are murdered within weeks of each other. Left to be raised by a lunatic for a mother and his father's physically and psychologically irreparable friend. Taking the little boy's choice of choosing a soldier hat over a cowboy hat as a clue, I see him walking down the same path as Jimmy. Same sensitivity, lack of father figure, etc. With the exception of Richard, I don't see anyone from their camp returning to the forefront of any episode in season 3. More than likely they'll just disappear.

Nucky is the most cold-hearted person I've ever seen on TV. Of course I saw the sadness and regret in his eyes before he shot Jimmy but I really don't see the benefit of keeping his bitch-ass brother and Horowitz in good company. Eli consistently proves himself to be unreliable and Horowitz doesn't have much to his name.

I wonder how many people like Van Alden took off from the East or West coast to the Mid-West. I assume plenty of people with legal trouble or likewise found themselves in middle America trying to restart life.


Next season will probably be the beginning to Luciano and Capone's rise to power. I'm not familiar with the detail of this particular era in history but when thinking about the developments of next season there doesn't seem to be too many people around to cause mayhem in Atlantic City. Could someone with more knowledge of this era fill me in on what the know/expect to happen next season?

  

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488. "well, assuming it'll be 1923"
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as far as major events related to the show, the repeal of prohibition movement began to gain some steam (it went on until 1933 though), Harding died in office and the Irish Civil War ended.

1924 also had the mayoral rigging in Cicero, which Al Capone played a huge hand in and I'm sure it'll come up since Van Alden is there. Torrio is also about to face some tough times.




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467. "I am without speech.."
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Applaud this show

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468. "didn't see that coming..that said...margaret is a bitch"
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469. "One of the show's best episodes IMO."
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IMPLIED SPOILERS

I'm not a huge fan of the show, but I thought tonight it was clicking on all cylinders.

Jimmy was a tortured soul and a tragic character. The last chapter of his life was written the day he was born. Nonetheless, that complexity made him one of the more compelling characters, so without him around I'm not sure who the writers will use to fill that void.

Prediction: Van Alden will try his hand as a bootlegger. He'll sneak back to AC on the low, meet up with Mickey, and tell him he's got the market corned in some little Midwestern town. Shannon is too great an actor for them to write him off the show on some bullshit.


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470. "Cicero is right outside of Chicago, Capone's territory"
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It's where Capone and Torio operated out of there during the '20s. It was their way of saying Van Alden is gonna end up crossing paths with Capone in some way next season.

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475. "yup"
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as soon as she said "Cicero" I was like, they put him in Capone territory? Awwww shit.

A disgraced G-Man with nothing to lose isn't a bad guy to have on your team.

Maybe we meet Dion O'Banion and Hymie Weiss next season.

  

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471. "Okay, some more thoughts (SPOILERS of course)"
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- As regarding Jimmy, I didn't see it coming either, but, well, Richard warned him. He told him no matter what happened, Nucky would never forgive him. Even after he gave him his brother and whacked the ass-hat who dimed him out. But like Jimmy said, he died in the trenches, or at least never came back from Europe. Truth be told, he probably died that last weekend at Princeton; everything else was just the long, grim, fall.

- I know they did it last season too, but the juxtaposition of the confession/wedding with the lawyer practicing her opening arguments with Jimmy and Richard pulling off one more feat of bad-assery was really good.

- The opening sequence and Jimmy and Richard delivering the KKKlowns to Chalky were also two bad-ass scenes. You could tell Chalky and Pernsley were gonna enjoy going medieval on their asses.

- So what becomes of Richard? His "family" is dead. He's still trapped in the trenches. Hopefully he doesn't get sucked into Gillian's grim orbit.

- "Why is this Bourbon empty?" "Because someone drank it, sir." Eddie's got jokes. I like that dude more every episode.

- I also cracked the fuck up when they were reading the Commodore's will. Just before they said anything, I thought to myself, "He left it all to the maid." I guess they tipped their hand with the "previously on Boardwalk...", but I still cracked up.

- A little surprised Eli got off relatively easy. I imagine the next season opens up a year later, after he's gotten out of prison.

- Yes, Margaret is a bitch. She's "charging" Nucky for his freedom, but she gets to live the high life while enjoying all the spoils of what he gives. I imagine Nucky somehow gets the land back from the church. Or at least it's a source of major conflict next season.

- Finally, back to Jimmy's evening of reckoning: it was just a masterfully done scene. Brilliant acting on Buschemi and Pitt's part. Perfectly executed.

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481. "RE: Okay, some more thoughts (SPOILERS of course)"
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>- "Why is this Bourbon empty?" "Because someone drank it,
>sir." Eddie's got jokes. I like that dude more every episode.

I LOL'd at that... hilarious

  

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472. "If there is a god...would he have given me a mug like this?"
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spoilers



fuck. im gonna miss jimmy. for all his stupid decisions, he was definitely the most compelling character (and his friendship with richard was an extension of that).

i feel so bad for richard and tommy. those two lost the only two people who loved them.

tommy lost his mom & dad, only to be raised by a lunatic. and richard lost his best friend and the only woman who ever accepted him.

i hope richard somehow ends up with tommy.

nucky you motherfucker. i love nuck, but that was a terribly sad scene. manny gettin in on the charade just added to the fuckeduppedness.

what a tremendous season. can't wait for next year.

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474. "RE: If there is a god...would he have given me a mug like this?"
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>spoilers
>
>
>
>fuck. im gonna miss jimmy. for all his stupid decisions, he
>was definitely the most compelling character (and his
>friendship with richard was an extension of that).
>
me too...i'm really sad to see him go....other than Chalky and Richard, i'm left with a bunch of characters i don't give a fuck about now...they could all die for all i care...but i'll be back next season...

>i feel so bad for richard and tommy. those two lost the only
>two people who loved them.
>
>tommy lost his mom & dad, only to be raised by a lunatic. and
>richard lost his best friend and the only woman who ever
>accepted him.
>
>i hope richard somehow ends up with tommy.
>

can't imagine how that'd happen altho i wish the same...

>nucky you motherfucker. i love nuck, but that was a terribly
>sad scene. manny gettin in on the charade just added to the
>fuckeduppedness.
>
...at first i was mad, then it ALL made sense...even Nuck siding with horowitz...jimmy got caught up in some ol Beeny Blanco shit...

>what a tremendous season. can't wait for next year.

i LOVE that Nucky didn't really win, he just thinks he did...

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473. "no idea where they go from here"
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476. "poor deputy halloran."
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dude's had a terrible year.

  

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477. "That was amazing."
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The past two weeks were total atonement for the "and Lucy is pregnant" storyline. Sad to see jimmy go, but he saw it coming. He knew it was gonna happen. He was ready. I mean, he didn't even come armed. He knew. That's what made it that much more sad to me. And Richard knew too. And whoremom. They all had that moment. The subtext in that scene was amazing.

ps - Fuck Margaret. She's the real villain of this show to me.

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478. "How 'bout those Phillies? (c) Nuck"
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I imagine they were filming this in the summer when the Phillies were riding high and that was a little shout out.

  

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480. "or it could be cause people in AC root for the Phillies"
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496. "Or it could be both, wtf."
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479. "I'm predicting a lot of Alphonse next season"
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482. "Terrence Winter explains Season 2 and why he fucked with our emotions"
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483. "my favorite episode yet, but torn on those last 5 minutes..."
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I get mad at Sons of Anarchy for not having the balls to kill off characters but now that Boardwalk went and killed Jimmy I'm torn...

When this show came out, everyone assumed it was all about Nucky/Buscemi... but Darmondy/Pitt have been equally as important... last night was the reminder that this show is about Nucky Thompson, he is THE star... I won't be able to root for Nucky anymore to be honest... to the point where as much as I hated Margaret all year, I was glad to see her sign the deed away to the church... Damn Nuck, I mean he has a small son, I know a lot of people say "it had to be done" "I saw it comin" etc. I disagree... I was cool with those 2 making amends and was hoping it was real...

Either way, season 3 should be fire again... Nucky still doesnt know his security banged his wife...

What becomes of Richard Harrow? That is by far the most intriguing plot point going forward.

With Jimmy out, I'd assume we will get more time with Capone/Lucciano/Lansky and even Siegel next season... all were really under the radar this season... also the Butcher seems like he will become a every week character.

Good way to finish the season... but mourning my boy Jimmy til the season 3 premiere!

  

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484. "Wowzers"
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This season was so dope. I was damn near on the fence about this show at the end of last season but this season has been incredible. With regard to Jimmy, I give the writers a lot of credit for making such a bold move in the name of good writing. It's a gamble though. As Pitt leaves, so does an incredibly compelling character and a great actor. Typically, you don't get many of those in a given series.

  

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485. "I'm so disgusted with this show right now"
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Like I hate everything at this point. I hate Marg, I hate Jimmy's mom, I hate Eli, I hate Nucky, like FUCK man they didn't have to fucking kill Jimmy. This is bullshit

  

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486. "Sebso spitting hot fire lol"
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500. "The most random motherfucker KILLED IT holy shit hahaahh"
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good looks on the link

  

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502. "Yeah man I was shocked it was that good lol"
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487. "Great finale - Great Season"
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Damn Jimmy, he showed up for his execution like a G.
He didn't even bring his trusty boot knife.
"Check his boot" - Eli
Does this make Richard a gunner for hire, or does he go on a revenge plot?
Jimmy's ma & Lil Tommy - smh
What does Nucky gain from saving Manny? Just a potential partner/customer in Philly or is there something else working?
AR/Lucky/Meyer (Bugsy) moving in the H business could be interesting.
Capone/Torrio possibly crossing paths with Van Alden is exciting as well.
Shout out to Cicero.

Looking forward to Season 3.

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490. "^^^^^^^ all of this"
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Really great season ending I can't wait for next season, Nucky is gangsta as fuck

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489. "this was the only conclusion..."
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..it was too far gone

jimmy had to die

hell, eli would be a dead man too, if he wasn't nucky's brother.

*two things:

- i loved nucky's convo w/margaret. he was basically on that "marry me, so i don't have to kill you" shit.

- margaret is a spiteful mufukah. seriously pushin' buttons 'cause she can't have everything her way. she is NEVER to be trusted.

now that she signed the land over to the church, she's basically forced nucky back into the very same life she asked him to leave (and worse).

i HOWLED when they read the commodore's will and saw that he left everything to the maid.

should be interestin' to see how they shape richard's character goin' forward.



..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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492. "He's gonna have to"
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Kill her

Gillian too

Those two are loose cannons
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491. "i really really really did not see that coming"
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wow

  

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498. "neither did i. i don't know why. i feel like i should've seen signs..."
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i just didn't.

or maybe i just thought they wouldn't go there.

they did.


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493. "Seriously fuck Eli"
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Fuck nucky too

I was mad at jimmy
I know it needed to be done but I didn't have to like it

In addition it was half assed Eli needs to go too jail or no
That one jealous resentful fucker

Speaking of resentment watch out for the women nuck
The prosecutor will be back I'm betting on Gillian and Margaret too
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494. "I was joking on facebook today about Tommy"
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pulling some Omen shit on Gillian

i know jimmy's death was coming, i just thought they would've waited to start season 3 out with a bang. but i guess this clears the way for the back stories of capone, luciano, seigel, etc.

i am so obsessed with this show, other than it being visually exquisite and having amazing actors, i love the 20s, and everything that comes with atlantic city. i got so attached to angela and jimmy, i am so sad still!

i dont give a fuck about eli, i guess the point of saving him was that nucky gets the last word on everything? and how meaningful could horvitz possibly be down the line.

richard is such an awesome, fascinating character. i cant wait to see which direction they take him.

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495. "i can't stand margaret"
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i'm looking forward to seeing how nucky deals with her bullshit.

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503. "she is gonna get her comeuppance at some point..."
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she is spiteful as hell...and her maid has a role to play next season in how Nucky finds out about her and Owen Sleater....they's replay Nuck asking her about 'and who have you cheated on?'....she only helped sign the Rev's death warrant, the way I see it.

  

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504. "^^ her self righteousness is unbelievable"
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And fuck that priest too

  

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497. "http://oi41.tinypic.com/2vmht91.jpg"
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http://oi41.tinypic.com/2vmht91.jpg


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507. "god...that cracked me up...thanks"
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499. "That was a great season of television"
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Jimmy. Damn. That left a pit in my stomach all night.

It's going to be very interesting to see what they do next year, because I HATE Nucky right now.

Tim Van Patten should win the Best Director emmy for this episode without any question.

I don't get the Margaret hate. With Jimmy gone she's now my way into the show. She was duped by Nucky and quickly figured that out. Clearly she is misguided in giving all of this money to the church, but the show has done such a terrific job exploring her catholic guilt this season that it felt earned. Also, TVPatten explained that she was paying God off for all of her past and future sin...so I really can't wait to see where things go now that she feels absolved.

Beautiful episode. Great Season. Jimmy will be missed.

  

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501. "her character is VERY conniving and self-righteous..."
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...she's not endearing at all. she plays off of people's perception of what they think she is and clearly is the opposite of that.

the only people who see her for what she is are the maid, Katie, and her older brother.

Nucky may see it too at some point, but right now he just sees her through rose-colored glasses.

  

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505. "Pun??"
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>Jimmy. Damn. That left a pit in my stomach all night.
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506. "Incredible finale that margret shit is disturbing"
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