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rick
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"i think eminem's verse on the bet cypher was better than bt's, ..."


  

          

meaning em and big pun (superlyrical) the only emcees to ever come off nicer than bt on a track.

what do you think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTGru5--4mk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLdAIyC6hYc

pretend to be cats don't seem to know they limitations
exact replication and false representation

  

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RE: i think eminem's verse on the bet cypher was better than bt's, ...
Nov 05th 2009
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I would *almost agree
Nov 05th 2009
2
really?
Nov 05th 2009
3
      Maybe I just don't want to hear about Em's dick
Nov 06th 2009
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1. Mos 2. Thought 3. Em
Nov 05th 2009
4
You can't give Mos #1
Nov 06th 2009
8
      sure you csn
Nov 06th 2009
9
           For real
Nov 07th 2009
11
                RE: For real
Nov 09th 2009
14
                     Word
Nov 10th 2009
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he rhymed bomb with saddam. come on..
Nov 06th 2009
6
point tooken
Nov 06th 2009
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      All 3
Nov 07th 2009
10
no indeed he did not.
Nov 07th 2009
12
RE: no indeed he did not.
Nov 09th 2009
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RE: i think eminem's verse on the bet cypher was better than bt's, ...
Nov 13th 2009
16
Black Thought is a very poor rapper. He has lyrics, but his delivery suc...
Nov 14th 2009
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i dont think ems flow fit "funky drummer" at all
Nov 29th 2009
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RE: i dont think ems flow fit "funky drummer" at all
Dec 01st 2009
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RE: i dont think ems flow fit "funky drummer" at all
Dec 05th 2009
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crucial!!!
Dec 10th 2009
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you're high.
Dec 10th 2009
22
joe budden murked it
Dec 12th 2009
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BT flowed WAY better with the beat. And the superlyrical...
Dec 17th 2009
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RE: i think eminem's verse on the bet cypher was better than bt's, ...
Dec 19th 2009
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RE: i think eminem's verse on the bet cypher was better than bt's, ...
Dec 19th 2009
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RE: i think eminem's verse on the bet cypher was better than bt's, ...
Dec 20th 2009
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RE: i think eminem's verse on the bet cypher was better than bt's, ...
Dec 22nd 2009
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ReD POet
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1. "RE: i think eminem's verse on the bet cypher was better than bt's, ..."
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u crazy

  

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jesustrauss
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2. "I would *almost agree"
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Simply in terms of flow, maybe em would beat thought

but thought's content is much better... MUCH...

  

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rick
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3. "really?"
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thoughts verse (and by the way, i think that, in general, black thought is the most profound emcee ever) is pretty much just braggadocia right? do you just mean the sophistication of his words?

i mean he's not saying anything super profound in that verse specifically. not that eminem is either.

pretend to be cats don't seem to know they limitations
exact replication and false representation

  

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jesustrauss
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5. "Maybe I just don't want to hear about Em's dick"
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I don't think the deeper content of either freestyle was too crazy, but whereas em can spit amazing rhythms, he uses short and unimpressive words. Thought, on the other hand, has an incredible vocabulary...

randomly, this reminded me of: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2biuT0ln-yQ...
wow...

  

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acidtabs
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4. "1. Mos 2. Thought 3. Em"
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8. "You can't give Mos #1"
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When he spit a verse he has been spitting for months. Nah man, i wasn't feeling that recylcled shit.

  

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9. "sure you csn"
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blsck thought has been doing that verse live for quite some time as well. no different than Mos

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josephmurf2384
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11. "For real"
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I've seen them a bunch and never remember hearing that, But your probably the one guy i would question about live roots that isn't in the band. I was just disappointed Mos spit something i have heard so much over the recent months.

  

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14. "RE: For real"
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http://www.itsallthewaylive.net/2009/06/black-thought-j-period-game-theory-new-verses-brooklyn-go-hard-bkhhf-6-20-09/

http://www.itsallthewaylive.net/2009/08/the-roots-the-robert-glasper-experiment-etc-the-roots-jam-highline-ballroom-nyc-7-8-09/

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15. "Word"
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Thanks, Will check the vid when at home.

  

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HighVoltage
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6. "he rhymed bomb with saddam. come on.."
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a lot of times eminem is all flow...

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rick
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7. "point tooken"
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pretend to be cats don't seem to know they limitations
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10. "All 3"
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were good.

imo, thought was the best, em is a close second.

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12. "no indeed he did not."
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13. "RE: no indeed he did not."
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Mon Nov-09-09 04:06 PM by nyju221

          

Hu! Lol

  

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16. "RE: i think eminem's verse on the bet cypher was better than bt's, ..."
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Em had a better flow and one or two hot lines but overall BT's was just more consistent

Em>BT though

just my .02

  

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17. "Black Thought is a very poor rapper. He has lyrics, but his delivery suc..."
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Sorry.

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18. "i dont think ems flow fit "funky drummer" at all"
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19. "RE: i dont think ems flow fit "funky drummer" at all"
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that is true that thought definitely knows how to ride a beat - he connects with what's going on with the music.

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20. "RE: i dont think ems flow fit "funky drummer" at all"
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>that is true that thought definitely knows how to ride a beat
>- he connects with what's going on with the music.

Agreed. Em did have that hilarious punchline. Made me laugh out loud for real.

  

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21. "crucial!!!"
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Em definitely can flow his ass off.
However, sometimes you can flow your way right out of a beat....

That was always one of my beefs with Talib Kweli

I think Em went too hard on Funky Drummer.
But dont get me wrong, it was still dope, but I think Black took that.

ima watch it again just to be sure, but Black always seems to display a certain kinda mastery when it comes to cadence and flow.


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22. "you're high."
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23. "joe budden murked it"
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divided we fall

  

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24. "BT flowed WAY better with the beat. And the superlyrical..."
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Thu Dec-17-09 12:44 PM by Raised under Reagan

  

          

thing; is smoke and mirrors, (RIP) Pun - once you get past the "illie billie silly" grade school vocabulary "over populated saliva gland". Mumble Jumble. Its sort of flat.

BT verse has more content and is timeless. You can take that verse and throw it on any joint the past decade.

IMO n/m

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25. "RE: i think eminem's verse on the bet cypher was better than bt's, ..."
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Gotta cosign that my friend. The Joe Budden verse was nice as well. But, I'm going to have to go with KRS-One as the overall for the cold drink. He was REALLY free-styling and the NIKE thing he did was genius.

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26. "RE: i think eminem's verse on the bet cypher was better than bt's, ..."
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Shouldn't be so suprising. Em is an incredible lyricist when he is motivated, and what greater motivation than to get in their with an emcee like Black Thought? I think its a toss up either way. This is what hip hop should be, when you have steel sharpening steel. I could only imagine the type of madness that could/would be coating our ears if Em had signed with Duck Down instead of Dre. Not that I am complaining about that decision, it makes sense. Come on though, imagine a Therapy remix with Sean P, Rock, Starang Wondah, AND FUCKING EMINEM! Wow, I need a moment!LOL

  

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27. "RE: i think eminem's verse on the bet cypher was better than bt's, ..."
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Em is a beast, not to take anything from BT cause his ell too!

  

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28. "RE: i think eminem's verse on the bet cypher was better than bt's, ..."
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I agree entirely. Black Thought dropped a sick verse, but Em's was just something else. I know people who will disagree, but thats what taste is all about.

  

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