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Cold Truth
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"anyone ELSE running through blank cd's like water?"


  

          

i have so many cd's with just one beat on em... or one beat and a grip of older ones, or a grip of "in progress" tracks

i mean this is actualy THE most vital part of my perosnal process... cause a CT beat can often take months to finish, i mean honestly a lot of shit that ive put up goes through a LOT of changes, sometimes minor tweaks, sometimes major overhauls. i have found several disks of different versions of tracks... so i make a beat, show some folks, brun a disc, listen to it, marinate on it for a while, and go back to it... ive got a few beats that i just havent been able to get right for well over a year, i got one that ive been sitting on for two years and still making changes... obviously thats not two years straight, i wont fuck with some of them for months at a time and go back when im in a slump or whatever...

and of course im not fucking with it like that unless i think its got potential to be something pretty good, and aside from that anything that has potential should be given the right treatment imo.

but this method has got me buying a 50 or hundred stack at LEAST once a month. the last two months i have been through 150 plus two 10 packs. its insane. about 1/4 of them DID go to actual mp3/audio cd's of my own collection......

  

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get this
May 24th 2006
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RE: get this
May 24th 2006
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May 25th 2006
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      .............
May 25th 2006
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      WRONG
May 25th 2006
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      RE: WRONG
May 26th 2006
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      and as far as mp3 goes..
May 25th 2006
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           RE: and as far as mp3 goes..
May 26th 2006
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                RE: and as far as mp3 goes..
May 28th 2006
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                Yup. A lot of big name artists are doing that now
May 28th 2006
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                RE: and as far as mp3 goes..
Jun 01st 2006
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                You should listen to your tracks as compressed MP3's
Jun 04th 2006
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RE: anyone ELSE running through blank cd's like water?
May 24th 2006
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its not even for mixing though
May 24th 2006
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RE: anyone ELSE running through blank cd's like water?
May 24th 2006
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RE: anyone ELSE running through blank cd's like water?
May 24th 2006
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RE: anyone ELSE running through blank cd's like water?
May 25th 2006
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Find a CD-RW brand that actually will play in stereos that you are
May 25th 2006
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HELL YES.
May 25th 2006
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get one of those radio transmitters for the car
May 25th 2006
11
RE: get one of those radio transmitters for the car
May 25th 2006
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Tip #1: NEVER save your beats and tracks as MP3's
Jun 03rd 2006
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RE: Tip #1: NEVER save your beats and tracks as MP3's
Jun 04th 2006
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no, NOT "always"
Jun 04th 2006
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haji rana pinya
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1. "get this"
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3. "RE: get this"
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mp3 player - not the best move as far as beats go.
you'd have to save your files as .wavs on the player, and if you're the 99k, 24 bit type, that'll eat up your player's space in no time. And only a fool would critique their beat mixes using mp3's.

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7. "..."
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13. "WRONG"
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ok, i think you meant 24bit/ 96k... and a) most mp3 players can read a 96k file and b) CDs are 16bit 44.1k wav files anyway.

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moonsatellite
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16. "RE: WRONG"
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>ok, i think you meant 24bit/ 96k... and a) most mp3 players
>can read a 96k file and b) CDs are 16bit 44.1k wav files
>anyway.
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muhfucka, u know what i meant, i typed that @ work on 4 hrs sleep..
turn off the caps and don't wet your panties

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con one
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14. "and as far as mp3 goes.."
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well, considering the amount of emailling that goes on now, i think it's pretty wise to critique your tracks using mp3, because there's a good chance, as a working producer, you're going to wind up emailling them as mp3 to someone.
I'm tyoing this as i'm dropping mp3's into an email for an hbo project right now.


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moonsatellite
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17. "RE: and as far as mp3 goes.."
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go on and record album material over compressed-ass mp3's.
ask any engineer, the shit's foolish.

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con one
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18. "RE: and as far as mp3 goes.."
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i don't know how many placements you have OR what your credentials are, but mp3 is THE current shopping standard right now. and you know what, people ARE 2 tracking vocals over mp3 and then flying the vox into the protools session once the paperwork's done.
that's the reality. most people want stuff emailed to them, and nobody wants BWAV being sent.

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19. "Yup. A lot of big name artists are doing that now"
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which is why i definitely had a good chuckle to myself at dude getting extra pompous with it. It is always interesting to hear what people think are industry standards.

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20. "RE: and as far as mp3 goes.."
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Thu Jun-01-06 11:12 PM by moonsatellite

          

>>i don't know how many placements you have OR what your credentials are..

that's right.
you don't.

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24. "You should listen to your tracks as compressed MP3's"
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If your mix sounds bad on them, then your mix will sound bad where many consumers will hear the tracks. A terrible mistake is only listening to a mix on great monitors.

  

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2. "RE: anyone ELSE running through blank cd's like water?"
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Yeah man like when im mixing a beat I mix it on my monitor... listen on my home entertianment system... then the last step is my whip... so I'll go thru like 20 cds mixing one track... adjust something a lil burn another cd

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Cold Truth
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6. "its not even for mixing though"
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its more for arrangements... mixing is a part of this but its mainly for what changes i shuold make, instruments and sounds that should be removed, subtle things that yo8u notice just by casual listening...

  

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4. "RE: anyone ELSE running through blank cd's like water?"
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yeah, i feel u

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5. "RE: anyone ELSE running through blank cd's like water?"
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yea. i usually just e-mail it to an additional e-mail account and marinate on the mp3 via my ipod. if im playing it for people, the digital playback does it enough justice that i'm satisfied.
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8. "RE: anyone ELSE running through blank cd's like water?"
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Yup....

and the problem is, the last spindle I bought were the blank printable ones, which are supposed to just be for sending out beat CD... but since I havent gotten another shitty spindle yet, I'm usin those for everything, including mixing, personal listening CD's... and those shits are def more expensive..

luckily for mixing purposes I got my beats on my laptop, so I can plug that into almost any system (monitors, stereo, shitty speakers, headphones).... except the car, which I'll figure out

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9. "Find a CD-RW brand that actually will play in stereos that you are"
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using. Older stereos are finicky about CD-RW's burned as audio discs, but some do work. I use Sony CD-RW's just wait for a sale on a good brand. Its definitely worth a shot, you can always erase the CD-RW when you want to make changes. And although they burn slow, you said you are only putting a few tracks on there.

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15. "HELL YES."
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i absolutely REFUSE to waste CD-Rs with one or two songs.

get a rewritable disc, it's the best way to go (provided that you can play them back on your CD players of choice). they USED to be expensive as hell (when i first got my burner years ago they were like $25 a piece).

if you've got a modern CD walkman or something that plays CD-RWs you can rig those up to your home stereo or car system.

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11. "get one of those radio transmitters for the car"
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the ones that go with ipod, you could use your laptop or other
pda and play it back that way, otherwise, stick with the cd's.........

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12. "RE: get one of those radio transmitters for the car"
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good point... was thinkin about this a while back but it slipped out of my mind, as most of my thoughts tend to do

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21. "Tip #1: NEVER save your beats and tracks as MP3's"
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Keep in mind that when you convert from WAV to MP3, you are losing 80% of the sound quality. It may be a size issue, but if you're serious about making music, save them uncompressed, ALWAYS. Save them on CD-R, DVD-R, or buy an external hard drive. Archive and save.

Anyone who is serious about making "good sounding" should never degrade their music to a format such as MP3, which is "lossy", at least during production. When you have a final mix and it's ready to be released, then you can convert to MP3, but as you're making the song, never.

With connections being fast these days, producers and rappers can send lossless files to each other.


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22. "RE: Tip #1: NEVER save your beats and tracks as MP3's"
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you're right, it's a compressed format and certainly not perfect, but as i stated above, most a&r's, production coordinaters, etc... want mp3's. i'd love to be able to email people .BWAV all day, but you have to cater to what the person on the other side wants.
personally, the stuff on my studio computer's drives are all saved as .BWAV, but my internet computer has all the tracks saves as 192k .mp3 for the times when someone does request something by email. no WORKING producer can ignore mp3 right now.

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Cold Truth
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23. "no, NOT "always""
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i hate these hard and fast rules to things

i tend to save them in wav and then convert those to seperate mp3's anyways, but i dont necessarily need super high quality files at all times. sometimes i'll include them in with regular songs in my mp3 comps...

now if i have a listening session with an a&r, its a wav file
if i have an mc, im sending a wav file
it doenst mean there are practical reasons to save as an mp3 though

  

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