4. "RE: The Ultimate Drumkit/Sample Thread For Producers" In response to Reply # 0
I notice this a lot kats downloading known producers kits...
What ever happened to creating your own kits? Maybe it's just me but I feel like the one of the most important and enjoyable parts of being a producer and the whole creation processes is basically snatchin up and chopping your own samples and or general drum prgramming stuff.. Or even playing out your stuff...
8. "RE: The Ultimate Drumkit/Sample Thread For Producers" In response to Reply # 4
>I notice this a lot kats downloading known producers kits... > >What ever happened to creating your own kits? >Maybe it's just me but I feel like the one of the most >important and enjoyable parts of being a producer and the >whole creation processes is basically snatchin up and chopping >your own samples and or general drum prgramming stuff.. Or >even playing out your stuff... > >I must be crazy. > > >www.freehiphopnow.com >Educate Entertain & Empower !
Man, I sorta agree with u but also u be surprise how alot of knwown producers trade drums sounds with eachother all the time. Plus its only drum sounds but sample melodies is a no no!!! BTW, check out my drum sounds and sample melodies @ www.myspace.com/jameshakahungryblak
10. "RE: The Ultimate Drumkit/Sample Thread For Producers" In response to Reply # 4
I hear what you mean, I just use the drums usually. But the other stuff can be cool to have too, cause you might be able to take someones samples and make something totally different outta them. Sometimes cool to hear differnt interpretations of the same samples.
p.s I hope these links can stay up for a min, I wont be back at my base til Fri.
13. "RE: It's how you hook 'em up (c) Guru" In response to Reply # 11
Tis is true...
But it's an unfortunate practice for young beatmakers to just search for sounds from known artist thinking they can create great music by using. I've read on forums the frustrations of a lottah these kids that don't seem to understand that it's not the equipment and or the kits you use it's the talent you have to create good music as well as your appreciation for the music to begin with. I've had the privilege to do a little mentoring with a few young kats to basically give them a little more insight on this craft. Lottah times kats that really have been making music for a minute kinda roast the younger dudes. I think it's important to give'em a lil knowledge not shoot them down.
But I asked though because I wondered what communication would come back. I know personally a lottah kats are simply just lazy.. I think that really sucks... Some of my folks opt for loops on production and will never program a damn thing. End all I guess is if it works for you. We just need to focus on making good music. With integrity.
>I use what I find wherever I find it. I sample new music all >the time. Thing is, I freex it MY way.... > >I'm not using a Dilla drum to sound like Dilla, I use it >because it fits.
14. "See, homie, I do it all." In response to Reply # 13 Mon Aug-13-07 11:05 PM by Kuahmel
I use breaks I chop up breaks to isolate the individual drums I chop away at songs for various "clean" instrument notes I use keyboards I use stock sounds (i.e. stuff that came wiht the machine) I download stuff I get stuff from the homies I sample stuff from TV and even other places I won't give away I stash away the darndest sounds I could remotely fathom using later (and oftentimes DO end up using them to decent results).
Plus I've been doing this for years.
Now these youngstas you know about, I don't know what to tell you. They're inspired by the keyboard guys. Or by Jay Dee. And a lot of them want to sound like they've been poppin' forever right out the gate. You can get this equipment anywhere, but these minds are one of a kind. That a-- is gonna have to tinker a bit and develop that mind to make ill beats. There's batches of old beats I dived back into when I got a cache of new media to use.
This is where I get back to theory and where stuff fits and all that. I sit in the lab experimentin' like crazy to make stuff that works (at least to me anyway)...and again, I do whatever it takes to make it work. Whatever the source material or source medium is, it's all to create a new strain and earn my own stripes.
>But it's an unfortunate practice for young beatmakers to just >search for sounds from known artist thinking they can create >great music by using.
A lot of us have done that though. I remember making a pause button tape because I read about Pete & CL doing so in the Source to see how that worked. We knew it wasn't the hottest thing on the planet, but that was experimentation at work. Gotta begin somewhere.
I've read on forums the frustrations of >a lottah these kids that don't seem to understand that it's >not the equipment and or the kits you use it's the talent you >have to create good music as well as your appreciation for the >music to begin with.
Yeah, there's gotta be a love to put in this kinda work. If you're coming in out to hit a lick, you're in it for the wrong reason, and may just need to be patient in college and find something you will appreciate doing more. I hear there's an air traffic controller shortage...
I've had the privilege to do a little >mentoring with a few young kats to basically give them a >little more insight on this craft. Lottah times kats that >really have been making music for a minute kinda roast the >younger dudes. I think it's important to give'em a lil >knowledge not shoot them down.
Those cars are afraid of being outshined and their spot being taken. I'm not, I do what I do (c) Kev Brown.
I do get a little rankled about all these kids that think they're doing something because they just gripped Reason. But I tell everyone the same thing, it's not the equipment, it's the person using it.
24. "RE: See, homie, I do it all." In response to Reply # 14 Fri Aug-24-07 05:51 AM by proskee
>>>>Those cars are afraid of being outshined and their spot being >>>>taken. I'm not, I do what I do (c) Kev Brown.
that's a real part of the biz, too.. i've been in contact with a few different artists (back in my 'artist' days) that DEFINITELY fit the same mold-i was on some tracks of their mixtape & anytime they played their CD, everyone would ask them when they heard me, "Who's that on the track?" but never ask about them. They got upset after awhile so they stopped contacting me
i've also had some contacts that I was working with before they produced for various mainstream artists that ended up not bringing me with them because, well, I produce better than them... cuz i kno i'm not as bad as they were though they have a lil skill... blah blah ramble--i know i'm not that terrible of a producer...
anyway, i joined this site a sec ago to reply to:
-Conscious- ...But it's an unfortunate practice for young beatmakers to just search for sounds from known artist thinking they can create great music by using. I've read on forums the frustrations of a lottah these kids that don't seem to understand that it's not the equipment and or the kits you use it's the talent you have to create good music as well as your appreciation for the music to begin with.
it's pretty dumb to knock cats saying "it's the talent and not the kits", cause i read that all over the different message boards out there and none of the arguments to support that make sense to me. so would you not give them the kit because it's a shit kit, or because your secret drums lay in one of those?? it's not like they're asking for loops and sticking them with some drums on frooty loops. i've heard some keyboardists produce tracks that couldn't compare to mines in quality because he had a shit kit to begin with -it was fundamentally (scales, chords) better but not more marketable in its execution & fullness. vice versa, there's a studio a friend of mines records at that has WAY more equipment than me, but his producer's shitty at beats (he should stick 2 the boards)
all i'm saying is i've never heard someone who's used an artist's kit make a song that sounded like the original track the chops came from.
maybe you could say the fact that the packs are so easy to come by you would evidently have a TON more wack, fly-by-night producers crowding up the internet market, making you work harder to show the higher-ups that you're not a part of that crowd. but even then, if that bothers you maybe you should consider what ya parents said about "going back to college".. lol.. but for real
17. "Shoot, I feel like I DO right about now." In response to Reply # 9
I'm looking more for synth now....
I got quite the drum variety right now...and some of these kits claiming to sound like what certain producers already did on other songs are rip-offs (of time, that is)...there's no way certain cats were using these unless they had the major filters and effects.
18. "Omillio Sparks "DJ Turn It Up" Remix/Mash-Up Contest" In response to Reply # 0
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19. "Y'all been putting in work on the downloading of them?" In response to Reply # 0 Fri Aug-17-07 07:57 AM by Kuahmel
Picking at it slowly but surely all week (Rapidshare's hour waits in between are brutal...how very rapid of them. Next time, Sendspace or Megaupload, please, folks)...
I've gone thru about 20 of them, Not gonna give away the great ones, but I know which ones y'all should avoid:
The Bone kit seems to simply a big zone edit of 1 minute of one song. Nothing worth the trouble.
The R&B vocals are simply some hokey sounding dude saying only 4 different sayings in six different pitches. Sounds really corny. And useless.
Lil Jon is disappointingly different keys of the SAME DAMN Casio horn he uses in every song. Pointless for me since I just put one key on 16 levels. There's no other sounds there.
A couple of others were little more than the same warmed over kicks, snares, and hats you'd get chopping around thru your own records (Alchemist comes to mind). Was talking with my boy the other day, and we agreed that one really only needs about 10-15 hats and 8-12 kicks and booms TOTAL for his entire kit collection. I've chopped enough drums for a lifetime, I'm looking for synth and stabs and such.