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"Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull"
Wed May-21-08 08:48 AM by Frank Longo

  

          

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/cannes_film_festival_2008/index.html

Don't know much about this critic but he seems to like Indy 4 and thinks the rest of the Cannes crowd did as well. I'm watching it as soon as I can.


C

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Subject Author Message Date ID
Variety review (CONTAINS SPOILERS)
May 18th 2008
1
Kenneth Turan's written review (swipe)
May 18th 2008
2
RE: Kenneth Turan's written review (swipe)
May 18th 2008
3
Who's gotten their tix for the midnight show??
May 21st 2008
4
got mine
May 21st 2008
5
      Want mine
May 21st 2008
11
           I had to do that too
May 21st 2008
13
                RE: I had to do that too
May 21st 2008
15
Saw it Sunday (Mild Spoilers)
May 21st 2008
6
Question
May 21st 2008
8
RE: Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
May 21st 2008
7
Flop
May 21st 2008
9
I highly doubt it
May 21st 2008
10
it was good. not great. just good.
May 21st 2008
12
isn't that all of them, though?
May 21st 2008
14
What in the Close Encounters of the Caddyshack Fuck was that?
May 21st 2008
16
Indiana Jones and the Caddyshack of Stargate
May 27th 2008
113
I'm there with bells and whistles... on Sunday.
May 21st 2008
17
I give it 3 out of 4 stars
May 22nd 2008
18
SHEEEEIT.
May 22nd 2008
19
RE: SHEEEEIT.
May 22nd 2008
23
THAT WAS THE MOST RIDICULOUS MOVIE IVE EVER SEEN!!!!
May 22nd 2008
20
I don't think Temple of Doom is at the bottom of the pile anymore
May 22nd 2008
21
Here's what I wrote immediately after seeing it:
May 22nd 2008
22
I was really just looking for Planet Waves
May 22nd 2008
28
it's okay
May 22nd 2008
24
I felt very mixed after seeing it. Spoiler-free pros and cons:
May 22nd 2008
25
^^^^^truth
May 22nd 2008
26
I'd agree, but....
May 22nd 2008
27
The first half was good, after that bar fight everything went downhill
May 22nd 2008
29
yeah Shia and the monkeys were hilarious
May 22nd 2008
31
Outside of the opening sequence, Doom wasn't that fun for me.
May 22nd 2008
32
      Doom felt like a bad horror movie to me when I was a kid. I hated it.
May 22nd 2008
33
      lol...word...she really was terrible.
May 23rd 2008
42
           didn't she marry Steven?
May 23rd 2008
60
                Yes, and her name is Kate Capshaw nm
May 25th 2008
81
pretty good breakdown
May 25th 2008
77
this sounds like a pro.
Jun 02nd 2008
162
Ugh... about 45 good minutes of creativity
May 22nd 2008
30
yeah that's about right, maybe only a tad over-simplified
May 23rd 2008
48
cosign. i will never even watch this again to make fun of.
May 23rd 2008
62
For those who have seen the script from 1995 (no spoiler)
May 22nd 2008
34
No Short-Round? jip. smh. /nm/
May 22nd 2008
35
pretty horrible and shackled by nostalgia...
May 22nd 2008
36
purists can eat a dick...this movie was good
May 22nd 2008
37
^^^word.
May 23rd 2008
43
Right, right.. nm
May 24th 2008
67
i thought it was dope.
May 23rd 2008
38
OTHER THEN 2 SCENES, DOPE MOVIE! (SPOILERS)
May 23rd 2008
39
cosign with the tarzan homage....
May 23rd 2008
45
I have to disagree about the vines in the swordfight.
May 23rd 2008
46
      seemed a little cartoony at times
May 25th 2008
79
My two word review of this movie:
May 23rd 2008
40
This movie sucked
May 23rd 2008
41
i'm a big indy fan and i loved it...
May 23rd 2008
44
was more Action flic than Adventure film (pretty low spoiler levels insi...
May 23rd 2008
47
this is like the other ones though...
May 23rd 2008
49
RE: this is like the other ones though...
May 27th 2008
130
cool review-
May 23rd 2008
51
      RE: cool review-
May 27th 2008
131
           The Curse of the Black Pearl was able to do it
May 27th 2008
133
anybody else get a nice chuckle at the little han solo homage?
May 23rd 2008
50
especially coming from "han" himself....
May 23rd 2008
52
lol
May 23rd 2008
53
RE: anybody else get a nice chuckle at the little han solo homage?
May 23rd 2008
54
I loved that!
May 25th 2008
89
At movie now: Blanchett's accent is AWFUL
May 23rd 2008
55
I cringed when I heard it in the trailer
May 23rd 2008
56
So bad youre postin from the theater.......
May 23rd 2008
57
      Yup
May 23rd 2008
58
           Thats bad, I aint see blackberryin it durin Speed Racer
May 23rd 2008
59
I WANTED TO KILL MYSELF AFTER THIS SHIT!
May 23rd 2008
61
^^^^was screaming "COOOVER IT, COOOVER I" before it happened^^^^
May 28th 2008
148
biggest flaw: JOHN WILLIAMS!!!
May 23rd 2008
63
*BOOM* Seriously, one of my bigger gripes
May 23rd 2008
64
      Anybody recognize the Janitor from Scrubs?
May 23rd 2008
65
           ya I told my one friend that was him, he didnt believe me
May 24th 2008
69
           RE: ya I told my one friend that was him, he didnt believe me
May 24th 2008
70
           Yes!
May 26th 2008
95
           RE: Anybody recognize the Janitor from Scrubs?
May 27th 2008
114
I liked it
May 24th 2008
66
it was a roller-coaster ride
May 24th 2008
68
sidenote: Curious Case of Benjamin Button trailer played before Indy
May 24th 2008
71
right!
May 24th 2008
72
Phoned in by everyone involved and lacked any real heart
May 25th 2008
73
"phoned in" was exactly the phrase i used
May 25th 2008
75
Ford didn't phone it in, he just old as a motherfucker now
May 25th 2008
78
3 out of 4
May 25th 2008
74
GOOD.
May 25th 2008
76
*takes deep breath* I liked this movie just fine
May 25th 2008
80
I think it fit the movie thematically (the spoilers continue)
May 25th 2008
82
^^^^^right here^^^^^^
May 25th 2008
86
      Well, yeah...
May 26th 2008
91
           Just admit the movie went over your head, Zoo.
May 26th 2008
98
                Caught ----------------->
May 26th 2008
101
                Exactly. 98% boring action scenes is slow
May 27th 2008
123
                     see, and I was just about to entertain your argument, too
May 27th 2008
124
                          Well, I liked National Treasure more than most
May 27th 2008
126
I think people probably wanted some closure for Henry's character
May 25th 2008
84
I'm a a major Indiana Jones fan....and I was VERY worried about this mov...
May 25th 2008
83
SPOILER
May 25th 2008
85
Agree. I thought it was one of the high points of the movie
May 25th 2008
87
they shoved the era down my throat
May 27th 2008
134
Honestly, it made me groan. ***SPOILERS***
May 25th 2008
88
      LOL C'mon, he starting brushing his hair in the CAVE
May 27th 2008
104
oh and I LOVED seeing Indy up in the classroom again
May 26th 2008
99
      The problem with Doom is that there wasn't much variety
May 27th 2008
105
           Good point
May 27th 2008
117
                Right. Also, he literally FALLS into the adventure
May 27th 2008
118
It was like watching a tribute band
May 26th 2008
90
Well, Harrison wouldn't do the movie unless it was a story that he
May 26th 2008
92
      That homage to " The Wild One " was vomit inducing
May 26th 2008
93
           I thought it was too heavy-handed
May 26th 2008
97
           Maybe because the 'Wild One' was part of that fad/trend
May 27th 2008
106
After digesting... [[ SPOILERS }}
May 26th 2008
94
.
May 26th 2008
96
Not Good
May 26th 2008
100
RE: Not Good *SPOILER*
May 27th 2008
108
      I forgot about that foolishness
May 27th 2008
110
      I thought Oxley was the worst character since Reggie the snake
May 27th 2008
121
      I think the skull put that scene in your head...
May 27th 2008
120
           RE: I think the skull put that scene in your head...
May 28th 2008
143
Decent
May 27th 2008
102
It was OK
May 27th 2008
107
Is the Darabont draft online anywhere?
May 27th 2008
103
Aside from the ending, I loved every minute of the movie
May 27th 2008
109
Shia should stay away from that
May 27th 2008
111
my question is what would they call it?
May 27th 2008
112
      Indiana Jones: The Next Generation. lol
May 27th 2008
116
           The New Adventures of Mutt: Keeping up with the Joneses
May 27th 2008
119
It will just be called Indiana Jones
May 28th 2008
150
RE: Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
May 27th 2008
115
How the hell did Mutt get over being LIED to his entire life in 9 sec.?
May 27th 2008
122
it's such a cool lie though!
May 27th 2008
125
      But he didn't know he was Indiana Jones
May 27th 2008
127
      RE: But he didn't know he was Indiana Jones
May 28th 2008
139
      I was so ready for Mut do develop a monkey PHOBIA
May 28th 2008
149
           Mutt had a school phobia
Jun 02nd 2008
159
I mean..c'mon. Swingin with monkeys..
May 27th 2008
128
Question for those who've seen it......
May 27th 2008
129
A ton of CGI
May 27th 2008
132
only two scenes really got to me
May 28th 2008
140
      RE: only two scenes really got to me
May 28th 2008
141
anyone else bothered by the genocide of the tribe at the end?
May 27th 2008
135
not really. they were pretty much assholes.
May 27th 2008
136
LMAO.
May 28th 2008
146
not really. they were pretty much assholes.
May 27th 2008
137
      Buckshot Jones & The Curse of the Double Post
May 28th 2008
138
Felt too fantasy-based...
May 28th 2008
142
ALL indie films are fantasy-based
May 28th 2008
144
No. This film is on a whole other level from the others
May 28th 2008
145
      ALL films were relied heavily on other-worldly shit
May 29th 2008
152
This was the most SCIENCE fictiony Indy EVAR
May 28th 2008
151
      RE: This was the most SCIENCE fictiony Indy EVAR
May 29th 2008
153
i thought it was most enjoyable
May 28th 2008
147
Y you niggas is happy about a white man with a whip is beyond me
May 29th 2008
154
I liked the film alot
May 29th 2008
155
Enjoyable.....but leaning toward somewhat meh status
Jun 02nd 2008
156
good movie..couldve used the asian kid again lol
Jun 02nd 2008
157
fell asleep in theater but rewatched on bootleg and liked it
Jun 02nd 2008
158
Hilarious, I was just about to post that I slept through half of it...
Jun 03rd 2008
163
*sigh*.....I blame Lucas....
Jun 02nd 2008
160
That shit was F.U.N.
Jun 02nd 2008
161
RE: I have not read any of this post
Nov 26th 2008
164
Skip it
Nov 26th 2008
165
Kingdumb & the Crystal's Dull
Nov 26th 2008
166
this movie was damn good for what it was
Nov 28th 2008
167
RE: thanks to all that replied
Nov 29th 2008
168

ZooTown74
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1. "Variety review (CONTAINS SPOILERS)"
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You were warned.

Variety.com:

>Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

One of the most eagerly and long-awaited series follow-ups in screen history delivers the goods -- not those of the still first-rate original, 1981's "Raiders of the Lost Ark," but those of its uneven two successors. "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" begins with an actual big bang, then gradually slides toward a ho-hum midsection before literally taking off for an uplifting finish. Nineteen years after their last adventure, director Steven Spielberg and star Harrison Ford have no trouble getting back in the groove with a story and style very much in keeping with what has made the series so perennially popular. Few films have ever had such a high mass audience must-see factor, spelling giant May 22 openings worldwide and a rambunctious B.O. life all the way into the eventual "Indiana Jones" DVD four-pack.

As has been well chronicled, Spielberg and exec producer George Lucas went through no end of writers and story concepts before plausibly updating the action precisely the same number of years as have elapsed since "Last Crusade," to 1957, smack dab in the middle of the Cold War. U.S. versus USSR dynamic spurs the dynamite opening action sequence, in which a convoy of Russian soldiers camouflaged in American army vehicles rolls into a remote desert nuclear testing base in search of a coveted object. Helping them in this effort will be their prisoner, Indiana Jones.

With an energy and enthusiasm bespeaking years of pent-up desire to get back to this sort of fun filmmaking, Spielberg sets the period spirit with a rock 'n' roll-fueled drag race and, with the characters' entry into the legendary Hangar 51, intimations of an other-worldly presence. As the aging issue is tossed off with a joke or two, the sixtysomething hero quickly proves that the passage of time will not be an inhibiting factor all these years later, as Indy trades smart remarks with the formidable Soviet officer Irina Spalko (Cate Blanchett) before jumping into action the equal of any of the great setpieces the entire series has previously offered.

In Spalko, the film has a villain worthy not just of Indiana Jones but of a James Bond film, one who's madly intelligent as well as appreciative of an opponent she views as a near-equal. With her trim gray uniform, silver rapier, Louise Brooks haircut and piercing blue eyes, Blanchett provides a major treat whenever she's around.

The 20 nonstop opening minutes include a striking variation on the many cookie-cutter middle-class housing tracts featured in Spielberg films, this one populated exclusively by plastic figurines enacting a cliche of a '50s Yank lifestyle while awaiting the nuclear test to come, one Indy must quickly figure out how to survive. Even that's not the end of the scene, which runs the length of the sort of Saturday matinee adventure serial that inspired the series in the first place.

Like the bravura opening sequence of "Saving Private Ryan," this smashing launch sets a standard the rest of the film has some trouble living up to. When Professor Jones returns to his university, he's informed by his dean (Jim Broadbent, replacing the late Denholm Elliott) that he's being suspended due to FBI doubt over his loyalty. Indiana Jones suspected of commie sympathies? And this after he's already told Spalko that "I like Ike."

Another iconic aspect of the decade rolls in with a kid named Mutt (Shia LaBeouf), a leather-jacketed biker who travels with comb and switchblade. Between a contrived fistfight and extended motorized chase around the leafy college campus, Mutt sets the grand adventure in motion by offering evidence of the possible location of the Crystal Skull of Akator, an object of great archeological and, possibly, psychic and other-dimensional fascination.

In a nostalgia-producing air travel montage like those in previous series entries, Indy and Mutt make their way to Peru, where the action relaxes in some rather rote creepy-crawly cave shenanigans before the guys lay their hands on the crystal skull itself, an oddly shaped clear cranium that all agree is not of human origin. But it's shortly snatched by Spalko, who believes the skull possesses psychic power that would prove decisive in mind warfare, no doubt ending the Cold War then and there.

All this gibberish is merely designed to justify the battle of wits and weapons, which continues apace as the Russians collect two further prisoners, Indy's old cohort and crystal skull expert, the now insane Professor Oxley (John Hurt), and Mutt's mom, none other than Marion Ravenwood (Karen Allen), Indy's flame from "Raiders" and clearly the woman he was always meant to be with.

Coming at pic's midway point, it's a welcome reunion, although written to escalate too quickly into intense bickering; a few more initial beats of mutual recognition, to permit the resonance of their relationship to seep back into the characterizations, would have give the rematch more heft.

But it's off and running again, with a race through the jungle as the good guys and bad guys jump between vehicles, duel with fists, sabers and machine guns, are assaulted by monkeys and ravenous giant ants and, in an undoubted preview of a forthcoming theme-park ride, plummet down three imposing waterfalls. For pure action thrills, this sequence rates close to the first one, yet there's one more to come, a mixed-bag wrap-up that transports the Indiana Jones series into a realm it's never occupied before but is well familiar to Spielberg and Lucas.

For all the verbiage expended just to keep the story cranking forward, David Koepp's script accomplishes the two essentials: It keeps the structure on the straight and narrow, and is true to the character of Indiana Jones himself. Thanks to this and Ford's full-bodied performance, Indy comes through just as viewers remember him: crafty, capable, impatient, manly and red-blooded American. He looks great for his age, although it's never pretended he's younger than he is, and Mutt pays him the ultimate compliment when he says, "For an old man, you ain't bad in a fight."

Allen also looks real good and radiates the same winning smile and tomboyish enthusiasm that made her "Raiders" characterization so critical to the film's complete success; her Marion is perhaps the greatest Hawksian female performance in anything other than a Howard Hawks film. LaBeouf eventually earns his stripes after a somewhat forced beginning, and Ray Winstone, along with fellow Brits Hurt and Broadbent, fills out the roster of newcomers as a duplicitous mercenary who switches sides with each change of fortune.

Technically, film is every bit as accomplished as one expects from Spielberg and the series. Of the director's key original collaborators, editor Michael Kahn and composer John Williams return in full form. Production designer Guy Hendrix Dyas provides some striking creations, particularly the ancient circular chamber that houses the climax. First three series were lensed by the great British d.p. Douglas Slocombe in bold, clean images, and while Spielberg's now-regular cinematographer Janusz Kaminski has mostly succeeded in reproducing this look, which is very different from his usual style, he still can't prevent himself from letting in some characteristic flared light and hazy backgrounds.
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Oh my God
She's so hot
She's so flippin' hot
She's like a curry
I wanna tell her how hot she is
But she'll think I'm being sexist
She's so hot, she's makin' me sexist
B*tch

- Bret McKenzie

  

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ZooTown74
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2. "Kenneth Turan's written review (swipe)"
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And FYI, Kenneth Turan's one of the better mainstream critics.

>From the Los Angeles Times

MOVIE REVIEW

Review: 'Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull'
The biggest star of this latest Indy film: Steven Spielberg.

By Kenneth Turan
Times Movie Critic

May 19, 2008

CANNES, France -- It's the summer's most-anticipated film, the latest in a beloved series that's earned $1.2 billion in worldwide ticket sales. Add in a premiere at the most prestigious of international film festivals, and the wonder of "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" is that it avoids being an anticlimax and is entertaining in its own right.

Though the film stars a relaxed and capable Harrison Ford as everyone's favorite intrepid archaeologist and boasts supporting players ranging from Cate Blanchett as a superb villainess to Shia LaBeouf as the inevitable youngster, the real heroes of this film are director Steven Spielberg and the veritable army of superb technicians who turn the film's numerous stunts and special effects into trains that insist on running on time.

Trains are in fact not a bad metaphor for the director's motivations for this fourth Indy effort, the first in 19 years. Just like a model-train hobbyist who enjoys getting more and more expensive equipment as his income level rises, Spielberg clearly got enormous pleasure employing a lifetime's worth of skill and turning out wave after wave of smartly done stunts and effects set pieces.

Certainly "Crystal Skull," which hits theaters in the U.S. this Thursday, couldn't have had a more eager, not to say rabid, audience anywhere in the world than the one at the Festival de Cannes for its pair of screenings today. The chaos at the press entrance was remarkable at the first screening, with frantic cinephiles pushing, shoving, attempting to jump over barriers and engaging in fierce shouting matches with the guards. And inside the normally decorous Grand Theatre Lumiere, where the festival's closing ceremony is held, there was unprecedented cheering as the opening credits rolled.

Getting sole screenplay credit (with story credit going to series originator George Lucas and Jeff Nathanson) was the veteran David Koepp, the latest and most successful of the close to a dozen people who took a crack at this project over 15 years, according to an article in the WGA's Written By magazine. The result may not be as iconic as "Raiders of the Lost Ark," but it's a perfectly agreeable outline on which to hang what, with a budget estimated at $185 million, must be the most expensive Saturday matinee film ever made.

Koepp's script also had to get the approval of Harrison Ford, who probably enjoyed getting to play his own age in a story set at the height of the Red Scare in 1957, when Marshall College's Professor Jones, believe it or not, runs afoul of the FBI and has his patriotism questioned. Though perhaps ambivalent at one time about Indy typecasting, Ford has made his peace with one of his most iconic roles and seeing him at his ease here is like meeting an old friend after years away.

If Ford is a known Indy quantity, newcomer Cate Blanchett is a great treat as Colonel Professor Irina Spalko, three-time winner of the Order of Lenin and "Stalin's fair-haired girl" despite a jet-black hairdo à la Louise Brooks.

A believer in paranormal research as "a new frontier in psychic warfare," the Colonel Professor and a crack team of Russians manage to get into a secret U.S. Army base in Nevada and persuade Jones to help them find some mummified remains, which convince the redoubtable Irina to redouble her efforts to find the origin of the skull, which may be a pathway to psychic powers. That turns out to be deep in the South American jungle and, no surprise here, not at all easy to get to.

If the opening Nevada segment, which quite literally ends with a bang, complete with realistic mushroom cloud, is one of the film's strengths, the exposition-heavy middle section is something of a drag. That's partially because Indy's sidekicks, including Ray Winstone as George "Mac" MacHale and John Hurt as Professor "Ox" Oxley (you may detect a pattern here) are no better than serviceable.

That is true as well for Shia LaBeouf as youth interest Mutt Williams. Introduced as a total copy of Marlon Brandon on a motorcycle in "The Wild One," LaBeouf doesn't seem completely comfortable in his disaffected teen role, a part that does not play to the innate likability that is one of his strengths.

And though it is exceptionally pleasant to see Karen Allen returning as Indy flame Marion Ravenwood, the film is too intent on spending the first part of their reunion having them strenuously argue with each other. It's so unpleasant, even one of the atheist Russians is forced to plead, "For love of God, shut the hell up."

The film's final section, however, with everyone hell-bent for the temple and the secret of that eggplant-shaped crystal skull, makes up for lost time. It offers lots of animal action (monkeys and hordes of red ants, primarily) as well as great stunts both CGI ("Look out for those falls!") and physical, as the Colonel Professor and Mutt draw swords and make like Errol Flynn and Basil Rathbone in "Captain Blood."

When you think about it, all the pre-release interest the film has generated is not completely rational. Given its cast, crew and pedigree, it was likely to fall within a very narrow range in terms of quality, and be either a worse- or better-than-average Indiana Jones film. It turns out it's one of the good ones, and everyone involved can breathe a sigh of relief.
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Oh my God
She's so hot
She's so flippin' hot
She's like a curry
I wanna tell her how hot she is
But she'll think I'm being sexist
She's so hot, she's makin' me sexist
B*tch

- Bret McKenzie

  

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theMindofFury
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3. "RE: Kenneth Turan's written review (swipe)"
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Thanks. I usually don't know follow many of the newspaper critics out there, but have been checking the LA Times more for reviews, etc.

C

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4. "Who's gotten their tix for the midnight show??"
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5. "got mine"
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This shit will make me dead to the world for practically all of Thursday, but it'll be worth it. Just the pre-movie down time at the theater will be enjoyable enough, waiting for the previews, chatting with my nerd friends in a big auditorium full of nerds, looking around to see who dressed up as Indy.

I'm getting kind of old for this, but I still have like 1-2 midnight showings in me each year.

  

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theMindofFury
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11. "Want mine"
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I want to go at midnight but will have to leave the gf behind. Is it worth the argument? Don't know yet.


C

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13. "I had to do that too"
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My fiance is even a fan of the Indy series, or rather she liked them as a kid. But there was just no way she was gonna hit a midnight showing in the middle of the week. They could have Harrison Ford at the front door autographing everybody's ticket and she still wouldn't go.

Sometimes the geeks gotta walk alone, lol

  

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15. "RE: I had to do that too"
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Ha, true dat.


C

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6. "Saw it Sunday (Mild Spoilers)"
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"We all wanted to love it, but most of us ended up liking it."

...was a snippet from a reviewer that mostly expresses how I felt about it. It was a fun addition to the series and I'll certainly see it again. I'd slot it just slightly behind Last Crusade. I have them slotted like this: Raiders (flawless), Last Crusade, Crystal Skull, and Temple of Doom. There were some nice Spielbergian moments like the diner confrontation and the VERY end, but some things just didn't fit. Ultimately, it's a perfect Saturday or Sunday afternoon film and that's all we really want right?

The effects were great though.

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8. "Question"
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>"We all wanted to love it, but most of us ended up liking
>it."
>
>...was a snippet from a reviewer that mostly expresses how I
>felt about it. It was a fun addition to the series and I'll
>certainly see it again. I'd slot it just slightly behind Last
>Crusade. I have them slotted like this: Raiders (flawless),
>Last Crusade, Crystal Skull, and Temple of Doom. There were
>some nice Spielbergian moments like the diner confrontation
>and the VERY end, but some things just didn't fit. Ultimately,
>it's a perfect Saturday or Sunday afternoon film and that's
>all we really want right?
>
>The effects were great though.

Do they look better than they do in the trailers? A lot of the CGI that I see in the previews looks pretty shiddy.

  

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7. "RE: Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull"
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i am really really scared to go see this movie..if it sucks i might burn the theater down.

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9. "Flop"
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10. "I highly doubt it"
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12. "it was good. not great. just good."
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iono
maybe its just simply too late for this movie now
its a fun movie but thats it
i wouldnt care to see another sequel

  

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14. "isn't that all of them, though?"
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Nostalgia has made them classics.

I remember seeing Last Crusade thinking, 'meh that was good but not as great as the other two'. I actually think at the time all the reviews said that too.

Then plenty of people don't think any of them are great except Raiders of the Lost Ark. So...

I think a lot of people, especially the diehard fans and nostalgic fans, are going into this thinking "I just hope they DON'T pull a Star Wars, where it's so bad it makes me think less of the originals." Cause after Revenge of the Sith, I stopping liking the franchise in general, both the original trilogy and the new one.

As long as the new movie doesn't ruin the series as a whole, tonight's show is $10 well spent.

  

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16. "What in the Close Encounters of the Caddyshack Fuck was that?"
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*Mild Spoilers*

The first 20 minutes were absolutely unbearable, beginning with the opening shot of a fucking groundhog/mole looking dead in the camera. I half expected to see Bill Murray in the Fisherman hat instead of Harrison in his hat...

From the point of the first red dot on a map, and for the next 45 minutes or so, it was near perfect: I was transported to my childhood of geeky heaven. Indy walking thru some murky, web-encased cavern untouched by man in eons... It was beautiful.

The last half hour was a Stephen Sommers (Mummy movies) CGI fest of swirling nonsense with homages to a certain Richard Dreyfus movie mentioned above. at this point I threw up my hands in near-disgust.

I left the theater with Phantom Menace-nausea. There were parts I liked, immensely, but there was so much other shit that was so hard to swallow...


1. Raiders
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3. Temple
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113. "Indiana Jones and the Caddyshack of Stargate"
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That's what I called it as I walked out of the theater.


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17. "I'm there with bells and whistles... on Sunday."
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And as the reviews start to trickle in, here's a little link to an interview post:

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18. "I give it 3 out of 4 stars"
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It was slow in alot of parts because of the age of the lead, and alot of the
"National Treasure" type of dialogue. However it did touch on several deep
philosophical points that are thematic throughout the entire Indiana Jones series.

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19. "SHEEEEIT."
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That's 3 for 3 on fun summer flicks.
But as an Indy flick? It's like they never took damn near 20 years off of making them! LOL

Yes. There's the improbable, but that's a staple of these films.
Yes. There's one really silly scene that makes you say WTF, but it was all in good fun.
Yes. They do revisit things from the first 3 films.

But unlike say, "The Phantom Menace", this doesn't feel forced at all.
And although you can kinda pinpoint what was shot on a soundstage and later CGIed up, it makes for some great shots that you otherwise could not get in the 1980s.

But even then... I spotted miniature work, and that made me feel good.

...

"But what about that kid, LeBuff?"

Shia LeBeouf has IT. No bullshit, fam.
He's the genuine article. Deflate the hate, ASAP.
(Fuck Michael Bay's "TransFormers 2", though.)

  

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23. "RE: SHEEEEIT."
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>But even then... I spotted miniature work, and that made me
>feel good.

Good eye!

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20. "THAT WAS THE MOST RIDICULOUS MOVIE IVE EVER SEEN!!!!"
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seriously, that was the longest roller coaster ride I've ever been on...lol

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21. "I don't think Temple of Doom is at the bottom of the pile anymore"
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But it seems like most people managed to enjoy it. I thought the first 20 minutes were hot garbage. I thought the last 20 minutes were bad. I liked most of what was inbetween.

  

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22. "Here's what I wrote immediately after seeing it:"
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"Bob Dylan in a Rolling Stone interview once said that it's unfair that his new releases be judged against his classics, when every other new release is not judged by the same criteria. I agree with him on the level, but with an addendum. Some of the shit that he puts out that gets panned as "well, it's no BLONDE ON BLONDE" wouldn't even get a nod of respect if he weren't Bob fucking Dylan.

So.... having just got back from KINGDOM.... my review:

"It's no BLONDE ON BLONDE.""

Monkeys and vines. What the fuck?

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28. "I was really just looking for Planet Waves"
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but I feel I ended up with Knocked Out Loaded.

  

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24. "it's okay"
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Not amazing.

Not terrible.

About as good as the last two.

The whole part about aliens was bordering on corny, but didn't cross the line.

Shia didn't ruin everything.

Seriously it was okay. Worth seeing at the theatre. I'd have liked it a lot more if I were fifteen to twenty years younger. But that's exactly why I liked the first three movies, because they came out when I was fifteen to twenty years younger. And I want to say a lot of people that trash this movie (except for those that just can't take the aliens thing) are just ignoring the fact that they love the first three out of nostalgia, and you can criticize the earlier movies for about the same reasons you can criticize this new one for.

  

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25. "I felt very mixed after seeing it. Spoiler-free pros and cons:"
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Pros:
-It's very fun. Lots of fun. Nonstop action for the most part.
-Cate Blanchett is definitely a worthy villain.
-Harrison, Shia, and Karen have great chemistry together, and John Hurt makes a lot out of a nothing part.
-A couple of action scenes will be among the more memorable of the series. In particular, a truck-based fight in the jungle.
-This flick is DEFINITELY going to introduce Indiana Jones to a generation too young to remember or fully appreciate the originals. I'm absolutely positive there will be a ton of young people who think this is the best Indiana Jones movie. It's fun, tons of action, lots of special effects... the formula is all there.
-The fantastical elements, despite the inevitable grumbling, are not any more fantastical really than most of the stuff in the first three.
-The special effects are all very very good, very impressive. But...

Cons:
-I don't know how to feel about the grandness of the scope of the film in terms of special effects. There are about 10-15 sequences more effects-heavy than anything in the previous films. A scene where Indy and a baddie punch at each other duking it out was one of the most memorable action scenes to me, and gave me the rush of the originals. But other scenes, replete with events that seem implausible even for a series like Indiana Jones, never gave me that rush, and never made me feel like Indy was in any true danger.
-I felt Spielberg pandering to the younger generation a good deal. Between the heavy use of CGI sequences, the bizarre use of cute animals in a few scenes, and the relative lack of gritty violence (there's only one or two villains' deaths even close to as gross/gooey as many of the deaths in the first three), I could tell it was aimed at a younger crowd. Which is fine to a degree... but the first three were fun to young people without feeling panderous.
-The script is average at best. They go VERY out of their way to establish "we are in the 1950s, here is what is wrong with the world spelled out for you." In the original, they never talked about the Nazi ethos much, or appeasement, or much of the politics of the time. However, since McCarthyism was in effect during the setting of this film, they can't resist throwing in some preachiness with a wink and a nod to today's political setting. And the dialogue doesn't have nearly as much magic in it as the first three, it feels content to give us familiar settings and characters and go through the motions. There is some very good banter here, and moments of greatness do exist... but it's too inconsistent.

So while it was lots of fun, I really enjoyed every minute of it, and Spielberg's succeeded in making a film to convert a new generation into Indiana Jones fans... it fell short of the original trilogy in many ways. I don't know if I'd call it worse than Temple of Doom... but there's also little as memorable as the opening sequence either. It falls right around Doom, for similar reasons-- whereas Doom went too far with the intensity and violence, sucking some of the fun out of it, this one went too far with the fun, sucking some of the intensity out of it. If that makes sense.

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26. "^^^^^truth"
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27. "I'd agree, but...."
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>I don't know if I'd call it
>worse than Temple of Doom...

This is just silliness. SKULL isn't even close to DOOM. It's definitely worse than...

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29. "The first half was good, after that bar fight everything went downhill"
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SPOILERS
First: They copped out when they said that Shia was Indy's son. Way too predictable.

Second: We waited 20 years for Aliens????? Really??? Aliens????

Third: You can't kill Sean Connery.

Lastly: What the fuck was up with Shia and the monkeys???

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31. "yeah Shia and the monkeys were hilarious"
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All out of nowhere dude becomes the Monkey King.

Why was he suddenly able to swing vines with ease and get the monkey to thwart his evil foes? They don't even bother going into it lol.



  

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32. "Outside of the opening sequence, Doom wasn't that fun for me."
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As silly as this flick is, it's fun and light and an enjoyable ride. Doom had that terrible woman in it, and it was generally too dark and unpleasant in places.

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33. "Doom felt like a bad horror movie to me when I was a kid. I hated it."
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I don't think I was able to make it through the whole thing back in the day & dont really have any desire to try & watch it again. I did enjoy the other 2 in the series tho.

Crystal Skull looks like its gonna be on the same level as Live Free or Die Hard. An unnecessary add on to a trilogy that should've been left alone.

I'm still gonna see it at some point tho.

  

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42. "lol...word...she really was terrible."
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60. " didn't she marry Steven?"
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77. "pretty good breakdown"
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>Pros:

Agreed on all with the exception of maybe this one:

>-The fantastical elements, despite the inevitable grumbling,
>are not any more fantastical really than most of the stuff in
>the first three.

I feel like the first 3 had an internal logic to their fantastical elements and this one kind of went outside that box. "Fantastical" isn't a black and white thing, it comes in all kinds of shades. This wasn't MORE fantastical than the first 3, but it was DIFFERENT fantastical in a way that sort of defied/conflicted the unwritten rulebook the original trilogy created.

It'd be like giving Harry Potter a robot sidekick or something. It's not any more ridiculous than magic trolls and booger jellybeans, but that doesn't mean it fits.

On the other hand, this is a good thing, since this movie introduces a new era and possibly even a new Indy, Crystal Skull NEEDED to throw something different into the mix this time around. In that sense, the sci-fi angle is justifiable along with all the other 1950s touches they tossed in. And it's kind of cool to expand the mythos in that way, making Indiana Jones a legacy character that sort of represents the pulp conventions of his respective time period. But how far can you go with that idea before it becomes something else entirely?

>Cons:
>-I felt Spielberg pandering to the younger generation a good
>deal. Between the heavy use of CGI sequences, the bizarre use
>of cute animals in a few scenes, and the relative lack of
>gritty violence (there's only one or two villains' deaths even
>close to as gross/gooey as many of the deaths in the first
>three), I could tell it was aimed at a younger crowd. Which is
>fine to a degree... but the first three were fun to young
>people without feeling panderous.

I dunno man, those ants were pretty vicious.

Nothing really traumatized me like the face melting climax of Raiders, but then again I was like 4 when I saw that.

The cute animals did kind of throw me off but I never felt like I was watching something aimed at any particular age group. There were some obvious 'for the kids' scenes but overall no drastic tonal differences from the original trilogy, imo. Little something for everybody.


>-The script is average at best. They go VERY out of their way
>to establish "we are in the 1950s, here is what is wrong with
>the world spelled out for you."

Well, I think the whole point here was establishing how this movie was taking place in a different world from the last 3. Personally I kind of liked how they pulled various elements from the post-war climate to create the 'modern' setting.

>And the dialogue doesn't have nearly as
>much magic in it as the first three, it feels content to give
>us familiar settings and characters and go through the
>motions. There is some very good banter here, and moments of
>greatness do exist... but it's too inconsistent.

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162. "this sounds like a pro."
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>the relative lack of gritty violence

Raiders pretty much turned The Doc into a filmophobe.
This is good to know, in case The Doc is in a situation where he can't avoid watching this film.

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30. "Ugh... about 45 good minutes of creativity"
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And the rest was REALLY bad, unfortunately.



Too much shit CGI



I pretty much never want to watch that again.





  

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48. "yeah that's about right, maybe only a tad over-simplified"
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62. "cosign. i will never even watch this again to make fun of."
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34. "For those who have seen the script from 1995 (no spoiler)"
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How many are glad (or pissed) that over all, it didn't differ that much from that script,
after all the boohooing between Lucas and Spielberg?

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36. "pretty horrible and shackled by nostalgia..."
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which wouldn't have been a bad thing if it didn't all come together in such a cheesy fashion. Marion swooning over Indy felt inconsistent with the character from the first film, and some of the comedic elements were overdone. Ray Winstone was crap. Cate Blanchette, who I usually enjoy watching, was stiffer than a porn star on viagra. every one of her scenes had me looking at my phone for an excuse to not watch the screen. Ford as Indy deserved much better than this, but I'm also kinda mad at him for settling for this level of mediocrity. Reminds me of that actor who plays John McClane. and that other one who used to play a robot but is now a governor somewhere. The only good thing about this film, was the photography and Shia Lebouf, who's bouncy, youthful energy compliments Ford's worn-in-the shoes, eye-rolling mannerisms. They make a good Batman and Robin. It's just a shame that this has to be thee Batman & Robin (1997) of the series.













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37. "purists can eat a dick...this movie was good"
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i came for a indiana jones movie and that's exactly whut i got....the only flaw of the movie was the weak storyline, but they made it work to the best of it's ability...

SPOILERS:







i dunno WHY people are crying about aliens...especially these purists, when they should be GLAD it surrounded itself to everything PURE of an indiana jones movie...a common foe that the U.S. was a against (old- the nazis, new- the soviets), it about something that's supernatural with a supermatural type of ending (the ark, crusades/ new- the aliens) and the rollar coaster ride to get there...

the ONLY difference is the time period which the old series were based on 1930 themes and this one based on 1950's themes and ALIEN conspiracy was part of that era...

also it's impossible for us grownups to recapture that SAME magic that we once had 20-27 YEARS ago...how we feel and saw things as kids wouldn't be the same as adults....

nor no indiana jones movie is ever going to live up to the original...same way no rocky movie will ever live up to the original...just go and enjoy, and not to take it TOO serious

i enjoyed it...i came with an expectation which wasn't high nor low and left satisfied...ford never lost a step, shia was suprisingly entertainment, john hurt made a pointless character into something fun, and you had FUCKIN' MARION BACK....y'all muthafuckaz are asking for too much...it's a SUMMER ACTION FLICK nothing more, nothing less

  

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38. "i thought it was dope."
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sheeeeit

  

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39. "OTHER THEN 2 SCENES, DOPE MOVIE! (SPOILERS)"
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the scene where Shia becomes Tarzan and is swinging with the monkies, catches up with the car, kicks Cate in the face... yeah, too much... and the scene where Shia is standing one leg on each car, driving thru the jungle, and those vines are hitting him in the nuts... could have cut that whole shit out... that whole chase scene was dope as fuck otherwise... The last scene of the movie with the space ship taking off looks so fuckin cool, I dont care if its aliens or whatever, that shit looked awesome... overall I dug it


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45. "cosign with the tarzan homage...."
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that was a BIT TOO much...but the other with scene was actually dope to me

  

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46. "I have to disagree about the vines in the swordfight."
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To me, that was some shit I might've seen in an old Indy flick. Obstacles coming out of nowhere in the midst of hand-to-hand (or in this case, sword-to-sword) combat.

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79. "seemed a little cartoony at times"
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I don't just mean the visual effects (although they looked cartoony too), but I'm talking about conceptually.

Old Indy = Surviving a giant waterfall

Crystal Skrull = Surviving 3 giant waterfalls

A lot of the stuff just felt a notch or two higher than the already over-the-top action we're used to seeing in these flicks.

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Too far.

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41. "This movie sucked"
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plain and simple.

  

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44. "i'm a big indy fan and i loved it..."
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*is not disappointed at all*

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47. "was more Action flic than Adventure film (pretty low spoiler levels insi..."
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here are my cons and pros

cons:
- it was much more of an Action flic than an Adventure film.
- the location was not a relevant character like before
- the "natives" were a blip
- there was no sense of danger
- there wasn't really any sense of awe either
- just this small group of good guys and bad guys chasing each other from usa through south america (was it peru? i forget now), which could have been anywhere, as the "where" barely mattered at all in this movie.
- the villain woman, while played well, was barely even a villain. all the bad guys were more like these comical annoyances to indy, and yet they were the ONLY obstacle indy faced.
- towards the end, the cgi computeriness really started to stick out

pros:
- it was fun
- it was also rather funny
- chemistry between actors was definitely there
- MOST (not all) of the campy lines and ridiculously impossible action moments were acceptable to me, as it was always a part of the series
- Harrison Ford was awesome.

Grade: C+ by indy standards, B- by recent years movie standards

Bottom Line: mixed bag with some really good scenes here and there, but put together in a sloppy patchwork style with a wack overall composition/plot/etc.

  

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49. "this is like the other ones though..."
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I agree with a lot of what you said, but:

>- the villain woman, while played well, was barely even a
>villain. all the bad guys were more like these comical
>annoyances to indy, and yet they were the ONLY obstacle indy
>faced.

In both Raiders of the Lost Ark and The Lost Crusade (and to a lesser degree the Temple of Doom, the main 'villains' were mostly only kind of bad. Just like in this one, more than evil they were just obsessed with whatever they were looking for. In pretty much each movie they were supposed to kind of represent mirror images of Indy himself.

After seeing the new one on Thursday evening (or Friday morning), my friend pointed out that basically every Indiana Jones movie has the same lesson: Know when to walk away from archeology.

  

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130. "RE: this is like the other ones though..."
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>In both Raiders of the Lost Ark and The Lost Crusade (and to a
>lesser degree the Temple of Doom, the main 'villains' were
>mostly only kind of bad. Just like in this one, more than evil
>they were just obsessed with whatever they were looking for.
>In pretty much each movie they were supposed to kind of
>represent mirror images of Indy himself.
:
yeah i mean i understand the villains were never totally villainous hitler psycho stalker rapist types, they were mostly just chasing that treasure against indie. but i still say the oldies had a SOME danger to the "bad guys". what about the Asian dudes who tried to poison Indie at the beginning of Doom? or the scary ass tribe whose chief was ripping out people's hearts?

>After seeing the new one on Thursday evening (or Friday
>morning), my friend pointed out that basically every Indiana
>Jones movie has the same lesson: Know when to walk away from
>archeology.
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51. "cool review-"
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in regards of the "wow" factor lacking...that can be explained

if you grew up on indie movies...then watching it from a KID's POV in comparison of 20-27 years later...the kid wonders and imaginatino would be depleted, plus at that time those type of movies were never done like that before...now you have a carbon copy indiana jones movie all the time...

it is VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE to recapture that magic again unless you're a 10 year watching this for the 1st time...

just my opinion though

  

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131. "RE: cool review-"
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thanks

>in regards of the "wow" factor lacking...that can be
>explained
>
>if you grew up on indie movies...then watching it from a KID's
>POV in comparison of 20-27 years later...the kid wonders and
>imaginatino would be depleted, plus at that time those type of
>movies were never done like that before...now you have a
>carbon copy indiana jones movie all the time...
:
nah i really disagree...there just WAS more adventure, awe, and even an enjoyable level of danger put into those movies.



>it is VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE to recapture that magic again
>unless you're a 10 year watching this for the 1st time...
>
>just my opinion though
:

yeah i disagree but it would take too long to go through it. but hey, i definitely think your point IS true for some people, maybe most. but i can still be awe-struck and imagination-sparked.

  

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133. "The Curse of the Black Pearl was able to do it"
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What good old fashioned Indy-type films have come out? It's not that kids can't be wowed, it's that, as Jon said, the adventure element was missing. Indy was passive througout the film and there wasn't really ever a point that he used his cunning.

Comparing it to the first Pirates, Indy 1 - 3 was Captain Jack Sparrow and Indie in this one was Will Turner.

If you look at the key scene in Raiders, Crystal Skull had the equivalent to the giant ball rolling after Indy but it didn't have the scene in which Indy switched the Idol with the sand and thought he got away.

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50. "anybody else get a nice chuckle at the little han solo homage?"
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"i got a bad feeling about this."

hehe...i laughed.


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52. "especially coming from "han" himself...."
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i was waiting for him to call Mutt "chewie"

  

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54. "RE: anybody else get a nice chuckle at the little han solo homage?"
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I actually hated that. Mostly because it seemed in step with everything that George Lucas has done to rape my childhood since 1997.

I did love the Wilhelm scream in the library though.

  

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89. "I loved that!"
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!sig!

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55. "At movie now: Blanchett's accent is AWFUL"
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56. "I cringed when I heard it in the trailer"
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57. "So bad youre postin from the theater......."
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59. "Thats bad, I aint see blackberryin it durin Speed Racer"
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61. "I WANTED TO KILL MYSELF AFTER THIS SHIT!"
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j/k

it was PURE CRAP!!!!!! absolute pure outright crap. harrison ford should be ashamed of himself.

i mean there are too many things to talk about and usually i don't even care about giving my opinion, but i had the chance to illegally download this and chose not to and waste my money.

this has TOTALLY ruined the Indiana franchise!!!

DO NOT GO SEE THIS! you WILL be disappointed.

felt as if my memories of Indy were raped.

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63. "biggest flaw: JOHN WILLIAMS!!!"
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in retrospect....the one MAJOR thing that was missing which actually MOVED all the indie movies along was the powerful score by john williams....

there was NO memorable score that kept this movie going...even to add on the suspense or anything...

  

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64. "*BOOM* Seriously, one of my bigger gripes"
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I don't remember anything new Johnny brought to the table. When his score was audible, all I heard was constant rehashings of previous themes. No new memorable theme at all!



No "The Well Of Souls" or "Desert Chase"

No "Slave Children's Crusade"

No "Belly Of The Steel Beast" or "Keeping Up With The Joneses"


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As one of the FBI guys in the beginning?
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70. "RE: ya I told my one friend that was him, he didnt believe me"
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He was in The Fugitive too. They did a Scrubs episode about it. It'd be pretty damn funny if they addressed it in the upcoming season. If there's an upcoming season. I saw ABC's fall schedule and didn't see it anywhere.

  

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I hope they make reference to it in some way during Scrubs next season
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Yeah, I thought that was cool.

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66. "I liked it"
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Same formula as every other Indy movie. It's no more out there than mystical souls flying around and making people disintegrate and shit.

I do agree that the monkey scene was a big WTF moment for me, even in my kid-like excitement of watching the movie.

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68. "it was a roller-coaster ride"
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but the action is really all that stood out to me.

i thought the story was too fantastical, especially towards the very end (ill keep it spoiler free).

but if you paid 10 bucks wanting a rush, you got it. just dont expect too much out of the story (and with that in mind, it drag on a bit during the "dull" parts)

edit: oh yeah, the scene was the ants was awesome- reminded me of the bugs in King Kong

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71. "sidenote: Curious Case of Benjamin Button trailer played before Indy"
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it looks crazy..fincher can do no wrong (in my book)

  

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72. "right!"
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i told my friend, that movie looks crazy, we gotta watch it!

  

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73. "Phoned in by everyone involved and lacked any real heart"
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There was some cool shit here and there, but this wasn't that enjoyable. There very few moments of genuine fun, but there was zero urgency to anything on the scree. It felt REALLY by the numbers a good deal of the time.

Ford went through the motions. Ray Whitstone, who's one of my favorite actors, was sorta interesting, but didn't do much special. John Hurt gave his usual crazy John Hurt performance. Cat Blanchett wasn't that interesting. I have no idea why Karen Allen was even in the movie. And this was so incredibly not the role/performance to launch Shia into absolute super-stardom, but I can't blame him because he wasn't given that much to work with.

Ah well, I'm sure it will make hundreds of millions of dollars, and that's cool. But I don't think I'd ever go out of my way to watch it again.

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75. ""phoned in" was exactly the phrase i used"
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it just felt like spielberg made this in his spare time cuz he finally got bored with talking about WW2 with Tom Hanks.

Harrison Ford seemed like he thought he was too good to be involved with the whole thing and George Lucas' terrible writing was sprinkled throughout.

the Indy Jr.-Tarzan moment was unforgivably stupid.

i loved the classic Indy stuff - raiding the tombs, the fist fight surrounded by killer ants, the gunfight in the jungle...but it just lacked *oomph*

  

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78. "Ford didn't phone it in, he just old as a motherfucker now"
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His 'acting' in these flicks has never exactly been Oscar worthy, I'm pretty sure Crystal Skull brought the same caliber of thespianship as the last 3.

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74. "3 out of 4"
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not bad, worth seeing in the theater. I'd have to see the others again to see where it falls.

  

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76. "GOOD."
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Not great.

But better than one could have reasonably expected given the circumstances, I think.

Some great action sequences, a few truly memorable moments, a couple cringe-worthy ones as well, and a sci-fi twist that reflects the period in which the story takes place, but at the same time really felt out of place to me for an Indiana Jones flick.

Overall a worthy addition to the franchise. Didn't shit on any legacies or destory anyone's childhood, and sure as hell didn't ruin what continues to be a great summer for big fun blockbusters.

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80. "*takes deep breath* I liked this movie just fine"
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Reminded me a lot of Raiders of the Lost Ark -- obvious note such as the casting of Karen Allen aside

(and seeing her again felt like a breath of fresh air)

And yeah, the pacing was off, blah blah blah, but it was fine

The only thing that bothered me was having Shia swing through the fucking vines in that leather coat

Oh, and was I the only one who was bothered by the fact that they

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made a couple of passing references to Henry Sr.'s passing? I know we all know too much about the making of these things, and I personally was disappointed when Connery turned the cameo down (and kinda figured it was because they probably wanted him to do a death scene), so knowing that Connery said no only makes me believe (perhaps unfairly) that they wrote him off out of spite...
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82. "I think it fit the movie thematically (the spoilers continue)"
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>made a couple of passing references to Henry Sr.'s passing? I
>know we all know too much about the making of these things,
>and I personally was disappointed when Connery turned the
>cameo down (and kinda figured it was because they probably
>wanted him to do a death scene), so knowing that Connery said
>no only makes me believe (perhaps unfairly) that they wrote
>him off out of spite...

To have Henry Sr. die.

Sure having 3 generation of Henry's on screen could have been a lot of fun, but it would have complicated the whole father/son theme. Crusade made it clear that as long as Henry Sr was around, "Indy" was never gonna grow up.

Maybe it was outta spite, I wasn't really following the behind the scenes stuff on this flick. But it felt like a necessary and natural thing to happen for Indiana Jones to settle into the role of Dr. Henry Jones Jr.

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86. "^^^^^right here^^^^^^"
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U hit the mark.

Indy WAS Henry Sr. in this movie. That was the point.

We were supposed to see Mutt as an inexperienced little punk w/ potential. We see everything with Indy's eyes. In The Last Crusade, we saw Connery as the overbearing father, and in Crystal Skull, we see Mutt as the young punk. That's the point.


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91. "Well, yeah..."
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It was pretty clear the direction the movie and the character were taking when Spielberg held that long shot of Indy looking at his dad's picture

And when Mutt caught himself staring at Indy as he called to him on the train

And in the diner scene, when Mutt takes the beer bottle, then Indy puts it back.

And especially with all of Indy's conversations and sage advice to Mutt...

It's not exactly a subtle theme that was hidden in the the film...

I *understood* what the theme was. As I said, it was as subtle as a sledgehammer to the face. I just had a quibble with how Henry Sr.'s passing was handled, is all. And I know, "but it would have slowed down the pacing of the film" (down from the already slow pacing)...
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98. "Just admit the movie went over your head, Zoo."
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Seriously though, I hear you. Connery brought a lot to the franchise and it would have been nice to see him once more, but like the examples Manhoodlum points out, I think they 'included' Henry Sr. pretty well given the circumstances. He remained central to the theme of the film even if the only time we see him is in a photograph. Efficient storytelling.

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123. "Exactly. 98% boring action scenes is slow"
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The ants were the closest thing to a memorable scene in the film and it wasn't paced well. They should have had the bad guy get eaten first to set up the stakes as opposed to making it almost the climax of the scene.

There wasn't a clever moment in the film IMO and most of the action scenes dragged. The bike chase in the school? Even the opening scene. Honestly, I thought National Treasure was better than Indy.

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>Honestly, I thought National Treasure was
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126. "Well, I liked National Treasure more than most"
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It wasn't all that great but at least I could turn my brain off and be entertained and it was a bit clever. It was kind of like, "How did nobody find this lost city? Had nobody ever been on the other end of those waterfalls or explored the friggin' skull looking rock out of which water was coming? And then the guy couldn't figure out how to get in when all they had to do was bash out half of the skulls.

Indy was passive and there never seemed to be much that was really all that hard to figure out.

I was bored in Indy. My friend said it reminded him of Dead Man's Chest except it made sense. I wouldn't go that far (I hated POTC 2) but it just wasn't entertaining.

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84. "I think people probably wanted some closure for Henry's character"
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I thought he was a major highpoint in the series. I really liked him.

If he wasn't going to make a cameo, I figured mentioning his death would've been alot better than mentioning him living in some home somewhere (he would've been VERY old @ the time).

I thought when Indy said "Somewhere, your grandfather is laughing right now" (paraphrased), I loved it. I thought it was a truely great moment.

I'm somewhat glad Connery turned down the cameo, because with Marian, it would've been too much "cop-out closures". If Connery made an appearance too, they might as well had Sallah tap dance across the screen with a cane and top hat for 5 seconds lol

To me, the mentioning of Indy's father came in 2 instances, a.) the mentioning @ the beginning when Indy was coming to terms of his own age, and b.) in terms of Indy being a father to HIS son. No 2 times would mentioning Henry Sr. be more appropriate.

Connery did them a favor by not appearing. His character should've been dead.

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83. "I'm a a major Indiana Jones fan....and I was VERY worried about this mov..."
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SPOILERS!!!

A few things I didn't like. I thought there was too many characters to deal with, and not many interesting ones. The days of Henry Jones Sr., Sallah and Short Round were gone.

Oxley was completely unnecessary. It would've been more interesting to allow Indy a figure everything out with a series of clues, instead of this babbling idiot guiding them like a homeless guy turned loose.

Mac was meh as the double-crossing buddy. His character was cool, but not the least bit "shady" or interesting. He was basically an average, selfish jerk, with nothing memorable going for him.

I was glad to see Marion, and even the happy ending between them, but she showed up just after the halfway mark, and with 10 minutes of bickering and action, they hooked back up and shit got rosie. Cute, but rushed. Hang out in the back of a speeding truck and 20 years of distance is just erased. I liked how she was still sassy, but toned down, like Indy.

To many of the critics dismay, I thought the Shia/Mutt angle was a highpoint of the movie. Yeah, he was kind've obnoxious in a way, but he was supposed to be. We were supposed to see him through Indy's eyes. He was a kid, and I thought he did great. I also liked how Indy became his father (Sean Connery) when he realized Mutt was his son, i.e. "Your going back to school!". I thought the interaction was fantastic actually.

All in all, minus Mutt, several uninteresting characters doesn't = a Sallah or a Short-Round.

The suspenseful scenes drug on too long with no real money shot. It seemed like Indy and Mutt were in that cave for an hour, just pondering and wandering to erie, suspenseful music. The tribal guys jumping around the cemetary lasted about 10 minutes too short. I was like "Finally, something is going down", and after 13 seconds...they were gone, and back to wandering aimlessly.

Scenes like the asylum in Peru and the pyramids were too far inbetween. They reminded me of the old Indiana Jones movie the most. Mutt tearing up to the thought of Oxley suffering was a dope move too. You never got that emotion in previous Indy movies.

I don't know about you all, but Blanchett could get it ROYALLY in this movie. Yeah, she was sexy to me. End note.

Other than these MINOR complaints, the only REAL complaint I had was the end. The CGI for the remainder of the movie was nice, but that ending....with the aliens, damage, and spaceship was a horrible idea. That was really the only part I hated.

Finally, I LOVED how they did Indy. Like Rocky Balboa in the last Rocky, they made his age a central character. Gone was the ruggedly handsome professor, and now, he was just an average teacher. He was aging, kind've sad...no Marcus, no father...lonley. He had memories, but his adventures were long gone. Indiana Jones the character was handled beautifully.

The beginning of the movie with the nuclear bomb testing was fantastic, and the picture of an older Indy looking @ the explosion was beautiful.

The greaser vs. soc fight and the music was great. Indy looked out of place as hell lol

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85. "SPOILER"
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I thought that Mutt's intro shot -- an homage to Brando's intro in The Wild One -- was great

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87. "Agree. I thought it was one of the high points of the movie"
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the era-thing, and seeing an older indy in that enviroment, was done brilliantly.

When Mutt punched that college kid, and the fight started, then the 50's rock music started playing, the audience started laughing. It was just so stereotypical of the 50's. It really did a great job of putting you IN the era by making FUN of it.

LOL @ Indiana Jones, our hero, sitting @ a table with some young prick constantly disrespecting him. It was beautiful.

Remember, the audience that grew up with Indy, the Indy fans, are older now, so we're going to see a kid that age in that manner.

The same way we saw Connery as the stern father-figure when we were teenagers, coming of age.

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88. "Honestly, it made me groan. ***SPOILERS***"
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Like I said above, Shia could have been fine if they had really given anything to do besides do a Brando/James Dean impression, comb his hair, and just be vaguely obnoxious. The only good thing that came out of the characterization was the greasers vs. preppies fight at the diner.

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104. "LOL C'mon, he starting brushing his hair in the CAVE"
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Indy looked @ him like WTF are you doing? lol

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99. "oh and I LOVED seeing Indy up in the classroom again"
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>Finally, I LOVED how they did Indy. Like Rocky Balboa in the
>last Rocky, they made his age a central character. Gone was
>the ruggedly handsome professor, and now, he was just an
>average teacher.

Compare Crystal Skull's classroom scene to Raiders classroom scene.

Remember how his classroom was full of pretty young coeds who hung on his every word? Remember how they tattoo'd their own eyelids to get his attention? Shit, remember the somewhat, um, confused young man in the sweater vest who anxiously places an apple on his desk as he's leaving of the classroom?

Well, that day is done.



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105. "The problem with Doom is that there wasn't much variety"
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Minus the beginning, Indy and them basically stayed in the same place for the entire movie. It was very incomplete as far as the other movies, where the scenery and locations change.

Doom was like a long Indiana Jones TV show, other than a movie.

I used to think it didn't fit 'cause it was a bit dark, but that wasn't the problem. I could handle a darker Indy film. They got to the village (the beginning was great), got to the mansion/castle, found dungeon, then the bridge/outside the dungeon, end movie.

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I still think Doom is a little on the dark side, but it's lacking in other departments as well. Locations is a big one. That's what jumped out at me the most this weekend when I watched Raiders and Doom back to back. Raiders jumps around all over the fucking place, Indy is constantly changing outfits and shit, it's impossible to get bored with it.

'Temple of Doom' I found myself really enjoying more than I remembered up until the point where they enter the actual Temple of Doom. That's where I doze off. It just sort of stalls out for a while (mine cart chase is cool though). It lacks in the villain department too. Not that Indy always needs to be fighting nazis, but it works best when he has a well matched adversary in a race to the finish. All in all it's not a bad story for a typical Indy adventure, but it feels like the kind of adventures he has *in between* the movies. No real character growth or anything of major significance takes place.

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118. "Right. Also, he literally FALLS into the adventure"
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whereas other movies kind've open up, he gets enlisted into some adventure...there's a backround story, and it builds up.

With Doom, he ends up in a village, and they're just like "Someone took our rock and our children. Go here and get it" lol There was no real build-up, suspenseful backround, or change of scenery.

if Indiana Jones movies were albums, Doom would be a nice EP lol It's an inbetweener.

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90. "It was like watching a tribute band"
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the flavor is kinda there, but that's about it.

This movie reeks of George Lucas.
Ford looks like he would rather be anywhere else but in this piece of shit.

I have no clue as to why Winstone and Blanchett are even there.

Granted, I'm not the biggest fan of the franchise or the genre, but I like a good summer flick and I was curious about the script considering they didn't use the the Frank Darabont script that apparently was phenomenal.

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92. "Well, Harrison wouldn't do the movie unless it was a story that he"
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Spielberg, and Lucas all could agree upon. Which primarily is the reason why it took so long for the 4th movie to come out. I'm guessing that the father-son theme must have struck a chord with Harrison to want to do this kind of movie.

Now, I do agree that some of the stuff (mainly the 50's-era stuff like Shia as a fake greaser and the opening car ride to Hound Dog) all hearken back to Lucas' American Graffiti, and he is known to love that era, so...

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Maybe I'm just no fun.

Maybe it's my general disgust with the film makers (although I like a couple of Spielberg films).


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106. "Maybe because the 'Wild One' was part of that fad/trend"
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I didn't see it as a tribute as much as I saw a young kid following the trend of that era.

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94. "After digesting... [[ SPOILERS }}"
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I waited a day to write my thoughts. Maybe thinking on it for a bit would help me digest the movie a little better.

Maybe. Or maybe I was in a bad mood from the beginning, since the movie theater ran out of butter. I WANTED BUTTER WITH MY DAMNED POPCORN!!!!

So I went to the Saturday 7pm show with some friends. Theater was packed -- mixed group, from 3 year olds to old couples and everyone in between. My thoughts:

****SPOILERS******
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The first act was decent enough. Yeah, some of the stunts were ridiculous. But it's Indy, and we're trying to reintroduce the franchise. After watching Raiders last week, I seriously don't remember questioning how Indy managed to get into the sub undetected and stay hidden before they reached the dock where they unloaded the Ark. Suspend disbelief with Indy -- I can buy that, Lucas and Spielberg.

The second act started to slide. The exploration scenes were good, but it felt like, as one poster said, National Treasure, with the lessons. Nostalgic, yes, but I feel like Spielberg was paying more tribute to his techniques than this movie. The boat/cliff scene? Jurassic Park.

The chase scene, with the sword fighting? To me, it seemed like Spielberg was saying, "Temple of Doom had my best action shots. Let me show them to you again, this time with CGI." Like going to a high school reunion looking good and with game, trying to pick up on the girl you COULDN'T get in High School. (Look at me now, I've got it together!!) Didn't work then, doesn't work now bro.

The ants. For me, terrible. BUT, watching it with a bunch of kids in the theater, those and the gopher things got great pops from kids. So I can see what they were going for.

The third act dropped the ball. I'm all for imagination, but I remembered (strangely enough, during this movie) Nick Cage's "Adaptation," where the screen writer guy says something like, "AND whatever you do, DON'T use Deus Ex Machina." Which Kaufman procedes to do to finish that movie (pure brilliance, too -- alligators and drugs).

I turned to my boy during the movie and asked him, "are we watching Indy or Stargate?"

To me, the ending was illogical. (SWIPE) -- (http://andromeda.rutgers.edu/~jlynch/Terms/deusexmachina.html)

"The term deus ex machina is still used for cases where an author uses some improbable (and often clumsy) plot device to work his or her way out of a difficult situation. When the cavalry comes charging over the hill or when the impoverished hero is relieved by an unexpected inheritance, it's often called a deus ex machina."

So how does our beloved Indy escape the Jungle, a batallion of Soviets and angry Amazonians? OH I GOT IT! ........ Steven, are you still bitter you didn't get the oscar for Close Encounters?

And homing beacons? COME ON! How does dude have so many in his pocket???

Finally, what's up with the FBI? One act and they're gone. No follow up, no resolution. Just dropped. But I get a damned 13 piece crystal alien? AND NO BUTTER!?! COME THE CRAP ON, SERIOUSLY?!?!?

My advice, watch it in theaters. It's Indy, after all. But watch the matinee. Or sneak in. And definitely smuggle your snacks to this one. It's Indy, but it's not worth the Sour Patch Kids.

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100. "Not Good"
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The movie really made no sense. There was no reason beside personal drive to find the lost city. If anything, they should have been hiding the crystal skull. The alien aspect was just kind of silly and most of the actions scenes weren't all that great. In fact, there wasn't one memorable scene in the film.

It wasn't even that effective as a kid's film. Most of the kids in the theater I was it in were talking and squirming around throughout the film.

In the end, the whole thing felt forced.

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108. "RE: Not Good *SPOILER*"
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>The movie really made no sense. There was no reason beside
>personal drive to find the lost city.

you may be discounting that scene where *SPOILER*Indy is being forced to stare at the skull. And later on when asked why he has to be the one to return the skull, he says "Because it told me to."*END SPOILER*


or did i totally make that scene up in my head?

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110. "I forgot about that foolishness"
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You're right though. That's what drove him. Because the skull told him. That's just pretty weak IMO.

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121. "I thought Oxley was the worst character since Reggie the snake"
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and at least Reggie didn't have any lines.

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120. "I think the skull put that scene in your head..."
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I was eating my Butterfinger bites, and have no idea what your talking about.

You shouldn't listen to Grey skulls made of quartz. They make you screw up the plot lol

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143. "RE: I think the skull put that scene in your head..."
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>I was eating my Butterfinger bites, and have no idea what
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>You shouldn't listen to Grey skulls made of quartz. They make
>you screw up the plot lol

i don't think the plot was screwed up.

and it's not like Indy had any choice but to listen to the skull. You saw how the skull had fucked Oxley up.

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102. "Decent"
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I grew up watching the Indy movies but I never have too high expectations for these old film revivals. I was decently entertained but it wasn't particularly memorable. The action was fun and it felt like an Indy flick. I was like "aw hell no" when Shia grabbed those vines cause I knew he was gonna swing and catch up to the car.

I can't wait til the 90s films get revived and we see something like a Kindergarten Cop 2.

  

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107. "It was OK"
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I think this is the sentiment a lot of normal Indy fans are walking away with. I enjoyed it, but I definitely didn't love it. There were some awkward scenes, some cool scenes, some "eh" scenes. But for $185 million...should have been a little bit better.

Next up for Lucas..."Willow and the Ascension of the Hump Backed Whale."

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103. "Is the Darabont draft online anywhere?"
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n/m?

  

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109. "Aside from the ending, I loved every minute of the movie"
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and i'm a huge fan of the Indiana Jones series.

I'm assuming that the fifth Indiana Jones movie will feature Henry III?

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111. "Shia should stay away from that"
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I really don't think that movie will make as much as people might think.

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112. "my question is what would they call it?"
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Cause he ain't Indiana. He's Mutt.

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116. "Indiana Jones: The Next Generation. lol"
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119. "The New Adventures of Mutt: Keeping up with the Joneses"
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n/m

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115. "RE: Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull"
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I liked the movie. I thought it was cool. It's Indiana Jones. It was a thrill ride. Too much? I didn't see it that way.

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122. "How the hell did Mutt get over being LIED to his entire life in 9 sec.?"
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"No...my...my father is Collin Williams"

Marion: *making 'oops!' face* "Um...er, no...Indy's your father"

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*action ensues*

Mutt: "Hey, he's pretty cool. I'm so glad now"

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125. "it's such a cool lie though!"
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Like seriously, you just found out your dad is really Indiana Jones? And you have special monkey powers? How is that a bad day?

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127. "But he didn't know he was Indiana Jones"
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It was just some random teacher.

Not that I minded but I do think that's one reason people liked the movie; they gave it points just for being Indiana Jones. Replace Ford with someone else and change the title and it wouldn't be getting the positive reviews IMO.

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139. "RE: But he didn't know he was Indiana Jones"
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>It was just some random teacher.

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149. "I was so ready for Mut do develop a monkey PHOBIA"
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Just like Henry Jr. has Snake Phobia, or Henry has Rat Phobia. I guess Mut has Scorpion Phobia though, so, there it is.

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159. "Mutt had a school phobia"
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I guess

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128. "I mean..c'mon. Swingin with monkeys.."
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129. "Question for those who've seen it......"
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I haven't seen it yet, but how bad is the CGI in this movie and how much is it used? In the trailer/preview commercials, it seemed like every other shot was CGI, and all I could was get flashbacks of the Star Wars prequels, especially with the Lucasfilms logo that appears at the beginning of the trailer.....



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132. "A ton of CGI"
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Personally I didn't think it looked that good but it didn't take me out of the film because after the first 15 minutes of action, I realized I was watching a cartoon.

The first few minutes make you think it's good ol' Indy but then it turns into full scale Looney Tunes.

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140. "only two scenes really got to me"
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the swinging through the trees shit, and the shit with Shia straddling the two trucks in the jungle. The CGI/green screen was really bad in those.

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141. "RE: only two scenes really got to me"
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>the swinging through the trees shit, and the shit with Shia
>straddling the two trucks in the jungle. The CGI/green screen
>was really bad in those.

agreed. the swinging through the trees shit only bothered me because it was totally cartoonish.

i figure it was thrown in for the real young kids in the audience.

the straddling of the trucks didn't bother me *as* much, because i could easily see that happening in an indiana jones movie. but the execution could've been much better IMO.

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135. "anyone else bothered by the genocide of the tribe at the end?"
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what was their deal anyway?

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142. "Felt too fantasy-based..."
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almost too supernatural, even for Indiana Jones standards. At one point I didn't know if I was watching Tarzan or Lord of the Rings, but as someone already stated, a C+ by Indiana Jones standards. Sixty-year-old Ford was nails physically, supposedly performing most of his stunts.

*SPOILERS*

Cons:
- 3 waterfall drops and surviving? cmon.
- a few times they all got wet and then were dry 5 minutes later.
- Mutt trying to be Tarzan.
- Blanchett's character come off like she should be working for Cobra and Destro.
- Lines felt a bit forced, with Lucas trying to inject more comedy in than usual.
- Previously I felt like the Mummy franchise ripped off Indiana Jones, but it seems like Lucas and Spielberg and returned the favor with the heavy CGI use.

Pros:
- I really liked the nuclear test grounds scene, which was the only scene that gave me any real sense of despair. When they showed the fake neighborhood, I immediately thought, "Oh shit, it's the Proving Grounds!"
- During the warehouse chase in Nevada when they partially crashed into that one box...and you saw part of the Arc of the Covenant. Nice nod to 'Raiders.
- The signature Lucas line: "I've got a bad feeling about this"
- Marion...another nod to 'Raiders (Belloq's tent) when they gagged her.
- homages to Henry Sr. and Marcus Brody

  

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144. "ALL indie films are fantasy-based"
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i think the right term you're looking for is leaning too close to sci-fi (which is ONLY the ending that's like that...lets be real not the whole movie)

  

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145. "No. This film is on a whole other level from the others"
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The skull saved the day at least twice and then there's the whole "Stare into the skull and let it talk to you" which is the whole impetus for Jones's journey. Nevermind the whole mind-reading aspect of Blanchett's character (which really added nothing to the film since it never seemed to work).

Sci-fi, fantasy, what-have-you, this film was relied heavily on other-worldly shit to drive the story and solve conflicts.

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152. "ALL films were relied heavily on other-worldly shit"
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EVERY indiana film relied on "other-worldly" shit...i mean you SAW ghost ripping flesh apart in "raiders" for christ-sakes!

you had a muthafucka pulling out peoples HEARTS while they're still alive while chanting some "spiritual song"!!!

and lets not FORGET the fact that indiana was FUCKIN' IMMORTAL for a brief period....

ALL the movies were on some other-wordly shit...with NAZIS (then) and the SOVIETS (now) seeking these other-worldly powers for world domination!!

that's why i don't take that alien shit too serious, just because it's not some "mystery GOD" shit...doesn't mean it fell too far from tradition of an indiana film....the ONLY film that went COMPLETELY against a traditional indiana movie was "Temple of Doom"

  

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151. "This was the most SCIENCE fictiony Indy EVAR"
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The other 3 were too "supernatural" This one was pretty much straight SCIENCE FICTION.

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153. "RE: This was the most SCIENCE fictiony Indy EVAR"
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if you want to be technical....anything story that consists of the "supernatural" IS science fiction....

y'all just mad because it showed aliens and a spaceship....it's BASED on 1950's themes...one of the main THEMES of the 50's was the conspiracy of aliens

it's NOT based on the 30's so you're NOT going to have the same themes....yet it still held true to how most indiana movies go...

  

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147. "i thought it was most enjoyable"
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*shrug*

  

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154. "Y you niggas is happy about a white man with a whip is beyond me"
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155. "I liked the film alot"
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I really liked how the flying saucer at the end looked like a 1950's flying saucer and not some futuristic spaceship.

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156. "Enjoyable.....but leaning toward somewhat meh status"
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The CGI looked excellent and all and it was very exciting (esp the chase scene on the bike and the superb jungle sequence) but it just felt far too extravagant even for an Indiana Jones flick lol.

I liked the major plot line and all with the skull...but the climax just didn't appease me all that much. The spaceship takes off, the skull was returned because it told Indy to do so, and Blanchett got mean-mugged by the alien(and I was postulating with my cousin later that it was most likely because the alien could sense the fact that she wanted knowledge in order to use it against somebody, instead of simply wanting knowledge to have knowledge and understanding).

I really enjoyed the opening scenes(the proving grounds scene was excellent) and Indy/Shia at the corner spot when the obvious father/son parallel to Last Crusade comes out, and you have the whole 50's battle break out. Only thing I didn't enjoy was them hammering the Mcarythism into our heads so damn much.....we get it, it's the 50's lol.

Some of the shit made me scratch my head like Shia getting over the fact that his mom lied to him his entire life lmao, and duke swinging with the monkeys(I really felt like when the monkey looked at Shia, it realized both of em had the same haircut, and realized duke was a homie) was bloody insanity lol.

Solid for what it was...an exciting grand-scale adventure, but just didn't come off as gritty and explorative that I expect from an Indiana Jones film. Does it have to do some with pandering to your new audience? of course.....but does it mean that I wasnt dissapointed? no way.

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157. "good movie..couldve used the asian kid again lol"
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158. "fell asleep in theater but rewatched on bootleg and liked it"
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it was c ool. i hate speilbergs new green screen shoot everything indoors thing. thats fucking annoying and kills the look/feel of the film. but i liked it.

  

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163. "Hilarious, I was just about to post that I slept through half of it..."
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and I rarely sleep in movies. I need to give it another watch I guess b/c I can't remember much of the plot. lol

  

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160. "*sigh*.....I blame Lucas...."
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as soon as I realized that they were going with the Roswell Alien angle my expectations slit their wrists and jumped off a cliff.

And Indy surviving a nuclear bomb was his jumping the shark. Also, I could never truly buy Cate Blanchett as a psychic commie. And the whole thing with Mutt actually being Indy's son was so telegraphed. Part of me was hoping they wouldn't go there because it'd be too easy but I was wrong.

However, to be fair, I did enjoy the chase sequences quite a bit and I did notice the homages to the previous films (Jungle chase=Mine Chase in Doom, Blanchett's death=Nazis death in Raiders


And I'm guessing that Connery wouldn't do the film? I honestly would've loved to see him in this film as well.

  

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161. "That shit was F.U.N."
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Thumbs up.

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164. "RE: I have not read any of this post"
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This should be out on dvd by now. I was reminded about this film when i saw the trailer on the Iron Man dvd. When i first saw the trailer at the theater i was like, that's a rental. Now the dvd is out and i still really don't wanna go nowhere near it. It just looks so awful and duuuumb. This film has 100 1 star reviews at Amazon.com .

For those folks who decided to skip the theater showing and rent it
tell me i am right. It is as dumb as it looks right?

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165. "Skip it"
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I have a few friends who actually enjoyed it as entertainment but they're in the minority. It did for Indy what Ep 1-3 did for Star Wars. nuff 'said.

  

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166. "Kingdumb & the Crystal's Dull"
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>tell me i am right. It is as dumb as it looks right?
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167. "this movie was damn good for what it was"
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..i never expect indy movies to make total sense...people in here going over the other movies wit that nostalgia comb, but if you look at it, they all have big holes, but are cool adventures of our fav archaeologist....

in the end i had to wonder about a few things tho

How did Sr die?? didn't he drink from the cup of everlasting life??

Mutt NOT realizing he was related to Indy is kinda silly....wasn't his name already henry?? didn't he find it odd that his mom sends him to a guy he's never met but has the same name for help??

what happened to the FIRST alien they found in that warehouse??

yes the monkeys reeked of Lucas...

yes, some of the homages were over the top

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168. "RE: thanks to all that replied"
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>..i never expect indy movies to make total sense...
lol for real, I like the Temple of Doom but the Ark and last crusade ugh .......I never really understood the hype. Both of them very overrated flicks.
You either love'em or hate 'em.
i am definitely skipping the skull/dull, lol





people in
>here going over the other movies wit that nostalgia comb, but
>if you look at it, they all have big holes, but are cool
>adventures of our fav archaeologist....
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>in the end i had to wonder about a few things tho
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>How did Sr die?? didn't he drink from the cup of everlasting
>life??
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>Mutt NOT realizing he was related to Indy is kinda
>silly....wasn't his name already henry?? didn't he find it odd
>that his mom sends him to a guy he's never met but has the
>same name for help??
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>what happened to the FIRST alien they found in that
>warehouse??
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>yes the monkeys reeked of Lucas...
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>yes, some of the homages were over the top
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