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"The Incredible Hulk"
Thu Jun-12-08 01:22 PM by Frank Longo

  

          

maybe the hulk just isn't meant to be a film

I mean that bana dude and norton are good actors. This latest incarnation could have learned from the mistakes for the first, and even the hulk animated series was forgettable. Maybe it just doesn't work for the medium.

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Big green ass kicking monster
Jun 05th 2008
1
because a human being keeps turning into a big ass monster
Jun 05th 2008
2
      this pretty much sums it up:
Jun 05th 2008
3
      so I'm guessing suspension of disbelief is a foreign concept to you?
Jun 06th 2008
19
      not like a cartoon
Jun 06th 2008
22
      Both Hulk movies feature some pretty damn complex CGI.
Jun 08th 2008
37
           Exactly.
Jun 23rd 2008
209
      It's supposed to look like part of the same movie.
Jun 06th 2008
23
           maybe the filmmakers just had a budget to stay within.
Jun 08th 2008
38
           that's an invalid comparison
Jun 08th 2008
                by necessity or design?
Jun 09th 2008
46
                     Ehhh, a animatronic, "man"
Jun 09th 2008
59
                          animatronics would not have worked.
Jun 09th 2008
62
                               So, then, maybe the answer is
Jun 10th 2008
64
                                    I think they already use(d) animatronics for partial body shots.
Jun 12th 2008
90
      *snort* plausible to kids in 1978, perhaps.
Jun 08th 2008
36
           plausible that a size 34 jeans could stretch to a 40...how bout that?
Jun 08th 2008
42
                Maybe Bruce buys pants with waists of unstable molecules.
Jun 09th 2008
48
                Rumor has it everyone's pants will fit in The Happening
Jun 10th 2008
66
                     it'll make more than grindhouse
Jun 10th 2008
72
                          Shit, I clocked in 2 hours ago and already made more than Grindhouse
Jun 10th 2008
73
                               LOL
Jun 10th 2008
74
Or maybe the 1st one wasn't that bad & this one might not be that
Jun 05th 2008
4
^^^
Jun 05th 2008
9
Spiderman didn't look fake? X-Men? Superman?
Jun 05th 2008
5
Not as fake as the Hulk.
Jun 05th 2008
6
I agree with you to a degree, but still
Jun 08th 2008
43
Spiderman was TERRIBLE
Jun 08th 2008
30
RE: maybe the hulk just isn't meant to be a film
Jun 05th 2008
7
I cannot figure out why they would make him look cartoonish AGAIN!
Jun 05th 2008
8
They probably saved a lot of money using CGI models from the first one.
Jun 17th 2008
179
explain how you make the fucking HULK look "real".
Jun 06th 2008
10
and THAT, laides and gents, is the cold truth
Jun 06th 2008
11
basically. the 'not real' complaint is stupid in my opinion.
Jun 06th 2008
12
people love to complain about CGI, but....
Jun 06th 2008
20
see: The Thing in FF
Jun 10th 2008
71
really? ya think? aren't yuo a crack shot.
Jun 12th 2008
83
imagine if the folks behind Jurassic Park thought this way.
Jun 06th 2008
24
      not really.
Jun 07th 2008
26
if you are already spending money on the CGI....
Jun 07th 2008
27
      they already do that for many effects shots.
Jun 08th 2008
39
If your main problem
Jun 06th 2008
13
that's how i expected them do to the hulk both times
Jun 06th 2008
14
      Monterey Jack.
Jun 08th 2008
41
RE: maybe the hulk just isn't meant to be a film
Jun 06th 2008
15
the ending was flawed
Jun 06th 2008
17
RE: maybe the hulk just isn't meant to be a film
Jun 06th 2008
18
man i couldn't disagree more.
Jun 06th 2008
21
I'm pretty sure it's not all motion capture. Much/most of Hulk has
Jun 08th 2008
40
I think the right director and writer could make a good Hulk film.
Jun 06th 2008
16
whatever...I just want to see some shit get smashed.
Jun 06th 2008
25
if they muted the green, or made him gray
Jun 08th 2008
28
People underestimate how hard it is to do green.
Jun 09th 2008
55
i really liked ang lee's version too
Jun 11th 2008
82
the green is very much muted. Too much so, perhaps.
Jun 09th 2008
63
RE: maybe the hulk just isn't meant to be a film
Jun 08th 2008
29
Advance word is good for this Hulk film. Get ready for a good time.
Jun 08th 2008
31
Tim Roth as the villain was all I needed to convince me to see it
Jun 08th 2008
32
RE: Advance word is good for this Hulk film. Get ready for a good time.
Jun 08th 2008
33
      You know according to www.imdb.com
Jun 08th 2008
44
           RE: You know according to www.imdb.com
Jun 09th 2008
53
                RE: You know according to www.imdb.com
Jun 09th 2008
54
                I tried to watch the Ang Lee version on the net one night
Jun 10th 2008
67
maybe they shouldn't have made a new one pretending like they
Jun 08th 2008
34
This one picks up after the end of the last one.
Jun 08th 2008
35
      I've heard that while it's not a rehash...
Jun 08th 2008
45
      Well it begins with Norton in the rainforest, and the USA lookin for him...
Jun 10th 2008
75
           although it technically picks up where the first one left off,
Jun 10th 2008
77
                RE: although it technically picks up where the first one left off,
Jun 24th 2008
211
      it's a reboot, not a sequel
Jun 09th 2008
49
AICN likes it...
Jun 09th 2008
47
the idea it could better than IRONMAN
Jun 09th 2008
50
Ashamed to say I still haven't seen Iron Man
Jun 09th 2008
51
it's also not true.
Jun 09th 2008
57
Harry is a horrible reviewer. And kisses waaaay too much ass
Jun 09th 2008
52
worst "critic" of all time
Jun 09th 2008
61
I saw the movie (Frank/Zoo, can we make this the official post?)
Jun 09th 2008
56
RE: I saw the movie (Frank/Zoo, can we make this the official post?)
Jun 09th 2008
58
in _this_ film, it's fanboy service.
Jun 09th 2008
60
      RE: in _this_ film, it's fanboy service.
Jun 10th 2008
69
I never had much of a problem with the Ang Lee version CGI
Jun 10th 2008
65
no improvement on ground contact.
Jun 10th 2008
70
I heard that "Hulk Smash!" shit on the radio & thought it was a fan
Jun 10th 2008
76
Agreed 100% on Ang's CGI Hulk
Jun 12th 2008
85
RE: maybe the hulk just isn't meant to be a film
Jun 10th 2008
68
question: quite simply, would you say it's any good?
Jun 10th 2008
78
      RE: question: quite simply, would you say it's any good?
Jun 10th 2008
79
I'm already looking forward to the DVD. Here's why: (LANK!)
Jun 11th 2008
80
I'd switch over to Blu-Ray for 70 more mins of *live-action* Hulk footag...
Jun 11th 2008
81
blu-ray only (swipe)
Jun 12th 2008
89
I watched the HBO first look last night
Jun 12th 2008
84
so how does his pants stay on cause demin doesn't stretch like that
Jun 12th 2008
86
they address this in the movie - more than once.
Jun 12th 2008
87
they did this time
Jun 16th 2008
172
Unstable molecules
Jun 12th 2008
88
Hey, thanks to Universal/Marvel for showing a part of the (SPOILER)
Jun 12th 2008
91
Yea but did you notice Ant-Man peeking out from his shirt pocket?
Jun 13th 2008
92
LMMFAO
Jul 13th 2008
219
Yeah, but that part leaked months ago
Jun 13th 2008
94
      Yeah, even the commercial said 'As GOOD AS IRONMAN!'
Jun 13th 2008
96
      (SPOILER) All due respect, but I don't give a darn if they ran a
Jun 14th 2008
128
Finish seeing the movie
Jun 13th 2008
93
Even tho this one is chock full of action, I still liked the 1st one bet...
Jun 13th 2008
95
After watching the 1st one again last nite, Bana>>>>>Norton
Jun 20th 2008
200
THE LEADER!!!!
Jun 13th 2008
97
I wish I had known you were a comic geek back in the day
Jun 13th 2008
98
LOL!!! n/m
Jun 15th 2008
152
LOL! RIGHT!
Jun 14th 2008
120
RE: THE LEADER!!!!
Jun 14th 2008
136
      Yep
Jun 15th 2008
153
just finished watching it and it was pretty dope.
Jun 13th 2008
99
ahroo?
Jun 13th 2008
100
      Sorry Pedia my man, I thought it would be trash...
Jun 15th 2008
157
The Incredible Hulk Was Great
Jun 13th 2008
101
AWESOME movie. Don't take little kids to see it, though. Mad violent.
Jun 13th 2008
102
that misspoken thing was intentional.
Jun 13th 2008
103
Yeah, I know. The Sesame Street part had a point, we found.
Jun 13th 2008
104
I could swear I heard a few other words
Jun 14th 2008
109
      He does.
Jun 16th 2008
177
Damn this movie was fuckin GREAT!
Jun 13th 2008
105
the CAVE scene was EPIC
Jun 13th 2008
107
you guys could not be more wrong
Jun 13th 2008
106
i was one of those who thought it looked fake...
Jun 20th 2008
203
Hulk Smash! *spoilers*
Jun 14th 2008
108
WOW. just wow.
Jun 14th 2008
110
that movie was a comic book/TV geek orgasm
Jun 14th 2008
111
      I must've missed the Thor foreshadowing part. What was it?
Jun 14th 2008
112
      when hulk got hostile at the thunder & lightening
Jun 14th 2008
113
           to give you a clearer understanding to this hint/ clue
Jun 14th 2008
115
           Thanks. That definitely makes sense.
Jun 14th 2008
116
      bill bixby?
Jun 14th 2008
129
           (SPOILER)
Jun 14th 2008
130
                right afterwards was Elmo right?
Jun 15th 2008
147
                     I believe it was Grover.
Jun 15th 2008
148
                          there was symbilism in that too
Jun 15th 2008
149
it was ok
Jun 14th 2008
114
wait for the DVD..they got 70 minutes of extra footage
Jun 14th 2008
117
RE: wait for the DVD..they got 70 minutes of extra footage (Minor spoile...
Jun 14th 2008
118
      I was thinking about this too
Jun 14th 2008
131
RE: it was ok
Jun 14th 2008
119
now you're reaching...considering this IS a marvel comic
Jun 14th 2008
125
they will get to this later, but...
Jun 16th 2008
169
      Triskellion isn't a prison
Jun 18th 2008
185
           it's not just a prison
Jun 23rd 2008
205
lol @ Stan Lee
Jun 14th 2008
121
Just saw it...
Jun 14th 2008
122
i was lauging at damn near every nod like a little bitch
Jun 14th 2008
124
Just got back......the shit was all kinds of dope
Jun 14th 2008
123
saw it 1.5 times
Jun 14th 2008
126
Had a better time than I thought I would
Jun 14th 2008
127
Liv was perfect. Her character, I mean. It was a little odd.
Jun 14th 2008
132
RE: Had a better time than I thought I would
Jun 14th 2008
134
PAUSE: Stark/IM is not Bruce Wayne/Batman
Jun 23rd 2008
207
why should banner have been a comedian? wouldnt have worked
Jun 14th 2008
137
I don't recall saying I wanted him to be a comedian.
Jun 14th 2008
138
      why not just explain your position on the sequel thing?
Jun 24th 2008
213
Michael K. Williams?
Jun 15th 2008
143
      Near the beginning of Abomination's rampage, before Norton comes.
Jun 15th 2008
144
           Yeah I yelled out OMAR!
Jun 15th 2008
156
*cues up Wolverine* (SPOILER, SPOILER)
Jun 14th 2008
133
RE: *cues up Wolverine* (SPOILER, SPOILER)
Jun 14th 2008
135
      Wendigo n/m
Jun 16th 2008
170
Incredible!!!
Jun 15th 2008
139
Twas a pile o' shit.
Jun 15th 2008
140
PRETTY MUCH!
Jun 15th 2008
142
agreed...glad i bought a ticket for the happening when i saw it
Jun 15th 2008
159
much better than i expected
Jun 15th 2008
141
it's a REBOOT not a sequel
Jun 15th 2008
146
It was a good action movie and fun to watch
Jun 15th 2008
145
RE:Sam Elliot
Jun 15th 2008
167
      To each their own
Jun 16th 2008
175
GREAT movie. 2-for-2 comic book movies so far
Jun 15th 2008
150
Question (Spoiler)
Jun 15th 2008
151
Answer in a link (spoiler)
Jun 15th 2008
154
      cool, thanks
Jun 15th 2008
155
I really enjoyed the film
Jun 15th 2008
158
Someone tell me why Tim Roth had an English accent.
Jun 15th 2008
160
Because he was in the British Military
Jun 15th 2008
161
he was on loan from the royal navy...one line of dialouge.
Jun 15th 2008
162
what else would you want?
Jun 15th 2008
163
      An M Night Dogg cameo & a twist @ the end
Jun 16th 2008
174
^^ didn't pay attention
Jun 20th 2008
198
great action movie but overall just an average movie
Jun 15th 2008
164
It was pretty good. Better then what people were saying
Jun 15th 2008
165
The sequel should have Doc Samsom and The Leader
Jun 16th 2008
176
RE: The Incredible Hulk
Jun 15th 2008
166
i disagree
Jun 16th 2008
173
      they were more subtle
Jun 17th 2008
180
Didn't suck!
Jun 16th 2008
168
*two thumbs up*(spoilers?)
Jun 16th 2008
171
Norton's complaints are valid, but I had a very good time.
Jun 17th 2008
178
Avengers movie NEED Hulk as the villain (spoiler?)
Jun 17th 2008
181
Word.
Jun 17th 2008
182
but sheild took notice
Jun 18th 2008
184
I don't think Hulking out on will is necessarily smirk-worthy
Jun 18th 2008
187
Agree
Jun 18th 2008
190
that's exactly how the 1st avengers issue was in the comics
Jun 18th 2008
191
      Yeah I know but I'm not saying they have to stick to Avengers #1
Jun 18th 2008
193
I think you could
Jun 20th 2008
199
OH GOD NO!!!!!!
Jun 18th 2008
192
      i just want to see hulk beat stark out of his suit
Jun 19th 2008
196
RE: The Incredible Hulk
Jun 17th 2008
183
Did Norton really bring anything to the role another act couldn't
Jun 18th 2008
188
Lots better than that first one
Jun 18th 2008
186
RE: The Incredible Hulk
Jun 18th 2008
189
Did anyone peep Omar coming out of the Apollo...
Jun 18th 2008
194
Yup!
Jun 23rd 2008
208
peeped it last night, liked it a lot
Jun 19th 2008
195
wayyy better than the 1st. the hulk was one of those heroes that
Jun 20th 2008
197
gtfo @ that plea coppin AICN quoting TV commercial
Jun 20th 2008
201
it was way better than i thought it was...
Jun 20th 2008
202
I liked it
Jun 21st 2008
204
Fucking great!
Jun 23rd 2008
206
The Incredible Hulk was fantastic.
Jun 23rd 2008
210
where was the doc samson cameo? i missed it
Jun 24th 2008
212
Doc Samson was the boyfriend of Betty Ross in the movie
Jun 24th 2008
214
Saw the movie this Sunday; enjoyed the hell out of it. Well done.
Jun 25th 2008
215
RE: Saw the movie this Sunday; enjoyed the hell out of it. Well done.
Jun 25th 2008
216
the movie was dope...
Jul 11th 2008
217
Good. Not great. Moves us towards the Avengers movie nicely too.
Jul 13th 2008
218
RE: roaaaaaarggggghh
Dec 17th 2008
220

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1. "Big green ass kicking monster"
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don't know how they be fucking it up...

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2. "because a human being keeps turning into a big ass monster"
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and it looks FAKE!!! it's just not an easy thing to do...and then there's the issue of the big fuckin thing MOVING!!! LOOKS FAKE!!!

that's why the TV show was the best...it made the transformation somewhat plausible.

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3. "this pretty much sums it up:"
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>and it looks FAKE!!!

>FAKE!!!

  

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19. "so I'm guessing suspension of disbelief is a foreign concept to you?"
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I'll never understand you uber realists.

You're watching a movie about a man, who turns into a 10' tall 1500lb monster, capable of 3mile leaps in a single bound and has limitless strenght.

Maybe you should relax on your realism requirement.

Also, WTF is that supposed to look like anyway, given that we've never seen anything like that?

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22. "not like a cartoon"
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>Also, WTF is that supposed to look like anyway, given that
>we've never seen anything like that?

It should blend in with the rest of the movie obviously.

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37. "Both Hulk movies feature some pretty damn complex CGI."
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It's not like they're doing hack jobs.

We're a long ways off from 100% photo-realistic animation, especially of something so inherently unrealistic as the Hulk.

  

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209. "Exactly."
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This is my response for a lot of movies or video games. I think it's ridculous that people take this job for granted. It's wayyy hard to animate these things and whether people like the movie or not, I don't see why they would crap on such beautiful CGI work. The team that animated the Hulk got some serious skills.


Can anyone on this board animate in CGI? Out of curiousity, I just want to hear the opinion of someone with more clout er experience.

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23. "It's supposed to look like part of the same movie."
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>You're watching a movie about a man, who turns into a 10' tall
>1500lb monster, capable of 3mile leaps in a single bound and
>has limitless strenght.

Lots of movies show us things we've never seen before and don't get creamed for not being realistic looking.

>Also, WTF is that supposed to look like anyway, given that
>we've never seen anything like that?

Nobody bitched about reanimated dinosaurs not looking real enough. But Spielberg and company didn't simply say, "well, no one has seen a real dinosaur, so who cares if it looks real?" If that's an unfair comparison, too bad. The bar was raised a long time ago, and the Hulk in the first movie missed the bar badly and this one seems be aiming too low as well.

The strange thing is that it doesn't even seem to be close. It's like the filmmakers took your approach and didn't even try to make it look real, figuring no one has seen a 10' tall, 1500lb monster with limitless strength before, so no one will care if he looks like he was spray painted onto the film frame. "Gee, a 10' tall green monster isn't real, so he must look fake!" Cut! Print!

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38. "maybe the filmmakers just had a budget to stay within."
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"that's an invalid comparison"


  

          

every time you see the animals up close it's animatronic. You only see CGI from a distance.

You see The Hulk up close and personal.

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46. "by necessity or design?"
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>every time you see the animals up close it's animatronic. You
>only see CGI from a distance.

>You see The Hulk up close and personal.

And there was no way to do the Hulk with any practical effects at all? Aside from being humanoid, The Hulk does not look like a person. So why couldn't he have been animatronic in some shots? Not an entire 10 foot tall robot. But for close ups of the face? Shots of the legs and other body parts?

I suspect the filmmakers had this discussion, but I don't buy the premise that there was no way to have ANY shots at all of the Hulk as real. Makeup, animatronics, forced perspective, whatever.

When you look at the CGI and realize that it doesn't look real, the right response is not "yeah, but it don't have to look real." And, really, there were only two responses. Either they looked at it, knew it didn't look real, and said that doesn't matter. Or they thought it looked real and were wrong.

If it's the latter, that's sad. Even the most ardent defenders of the first movie aren't bothering to say it the Hulk looked real.

If it's the former, like some of the people here are arguing, I'd say the performance and reaction to the first one should have proved them wrong, at least enough to scare them off trying the same approach. But here we are again.

I'm going with the latter. They think it's important that it look real, and they think they have achieved that. From all accounts, the public isn't buying it. But we'll see when the more people get to see the latest.


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59. "Ehhh, a animatronic, "man""
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I think that would set off our "fake" detectors even more. W/Dinosaurs it's slightly different, but for all intents and purposes the Hulk is a man, albeit HUGE, but none-the-less a man.

I just don't see Animatronics working here.

You honestly think that would have worked?

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62. "animatronics would not have worked."
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And considering his size and what the script would call upon him to do, a person in any sort of prosthetics wouldn't've worked either.

  

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64. "So, then, maybe the answer is"
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it wasn't supposed to be a film. Because it looks fake as is.

Honestly, though, I think you sell the animatronics short. Even the dinosaurs weren't animatronic in every shot, they used a combination -- and the worst shots were the close ups of the velociraptors. They looked like the shark at Universal Studios. But legs and arms? Shots of body parts? They could have done that, and limited the amount of full on CGI Hulk shots.

But whatever. I can't sell the creative forces in Hollywood so short as to think they couldn't figure out a way to do this better. It's just like The Polar Express -- that fake look was a choice, and a bad one. (Though PE made loot.)

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90. "I think they already use(d) animatronics for partial body shots."
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so that's almost a moot point. I'm talking about animatorinics for full-body shots, for which it'd be kind of hard to make the Hulk not look like (a) a Gremlin or (b) one of the "it's a small world" children

and yes, I HATE HATE HATE the plasticine motion-capture bullshit used on "Polar Express", that Little Rascals ripoff (what was it called? "Monster House?"), and "Beuwolf".

  

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36. "*snort* plausible to kids in 1978, perhaps."
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>that's why the TV show was the best...it made the
>transformation somewhat plausible.

Shit is pure ricotta in '08. (but beloved, nostalgic ricotta)

  

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42. "plausible that a size 34 jeans could stretch to a 40...how bout that?"
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even a fuckin CHILD acknowledges the disconnect between a lil ass frail white guy becoming a 15 foot wall of muscle and is somehow still wearing a tight ass pair of jeans...THEY DON'T BELIEVE THAT SHIT AND IT LOOKS STUPID.

you'd have to *snort* a lot to by the wack ass transformations these hulk movies are tryna pull off.

muhfuckas bones, tendons and muscles stretching and his fuckin jeans gettin bigger...fuck outta here. kids insulted.

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48. "Maybe Bruce buys pants with waists of unstable molecules."
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That's how Marvel explained clothes that survives transformations that should destroy a superpowered character's outfit.

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66. "Rumor has it everyone's pants will fit in The Happening"
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72. "it'll make more than grindhouse"
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73. "Shit, I clocked in 2 hours ago and already made more than Grindhouse"
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74. "LOL"
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4. "Or maybe the 1st one wasn't that bad & this one might not be that"
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bad either

  

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5. "Spiderman didn't look fake? X-Men? Superman?"
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What is realistic about any of that stuff? I'm a fan and I see your point and all but come on now. Comic book super heroes aren't real so to some extent things are always going to look fake to some degree.

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6. "Not as fake as the Hulk."
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What's the point of doing a live action Hulk if the Hulk just looks like a cartoon?

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43. "I agree with you to a degree, but still"
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They're taking shorts.

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30. "Spiderman was TERRIBLE"
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I just watched 3 the other day and holy shit, he looked like wet plasticy/rubber shit. Every time they used CGI for Spiderman, I cringed.

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7. "RE: maybe the hulk just isn't meant to be a film"
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you know what i think cats just cant go to the movies and suspend belief anymore . me i dont mind cgi it all looks fake my thing is does it look good. to me the hulk looks good ive seen the new movie at a screening and had a blast. lots of action and decent plot. the old hulk show was cool i could still watch it now. but guess what? i still looks like a green painted man. but i just sit back and enijoy the show. i dont care what you cats say i could tell what was cg in iron man lord of the rings all those movies. but im able to suspened my belief for a couple of hours and enioy the flick. sorry for the long rant but just to let you cats know the new hulk flick i thought was good.

  

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8. "I cannot figure out why they would make him look cartoonish AGAIN!"
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what's the point of it?

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179. "They probably saved a lot of money using CGI models from the first one."
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10. "explain how you make the fucking HULK look "real"."
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not gonna happen. in anyone's lifetime. he has to be CGI; no way around it. and the cgi looks pretty damn good on this one.

everyone is saying it looks "fake". well, duh sherlock. really? is he SUPPOSED to look "real"?


so explain how the fuck that is supposed to happen. cause the hulk i see in these previews looks bad ass.

at any rate the cgi takes a backseat to the story. if the story sucks, if the plot is garbage, if the action sucks, who gives a rats ass if the cgi looks "fake"?

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11. "and THAT, laides and gents, is the cold truth"
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12. "basically. the 'not real' complaint is stupid in my opinion."
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its the fucking hulk. dude is what 15ft tall or something? do you really want to see a man in a muscle suit spray-painted green? i think this new version looks pretty damned accurate.

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20. "people love to complain about CGI, but...."
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we could go back to king kong in a fucking suit. we could have hulk looking like the thing, how bout that.

or. like you said, find some brock lesnar type and paint his ass green. much better.

no, the hulk should be a monster. he should be huge. he should LOOK like he can take a tank and swing that shit like a baseball bat with ZERO hesitation. imagine looking at some dude who is merely big by human standards. hey, lets just cast a big ass pro wrestler, someone at LEAST, oh, 6"5!!1 yeah, a really BIG GUY.

guess what? a really big guy doesn't look like the fucking hulk. say, michael duncan clark. he's a big ass dude. works well as the kingpin. guess what? that dude isn't gonna look worse then lou punching his way through a helicopter.

i don't see a guy like MDC clapping his hands and making sound waves that crush buildings. these guys think he CGI hulk looks fake, give them their wish and see how bad THAT option looks.





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71. "see: The Thing in FF"
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The Thing looks...HORRIBLE. By no means is that look quality.

  

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83. "really? ya think? aren't yuo a crack shot."
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sorry man, had to take a jab at least. nah man that was pure sarcasm. no way in hell i think that shit looked good. that was my point though. people bitch about the cgi (which is great)because they want to bitch, plain and simple. the cgi is excellent. there isn't a betetr option othe then cgi and these idiots think its the worst possible option.

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24. "imagine if the folks behind Jurassic Park thought this way."
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The dinosaurs looked real. Even the parts that were not CG.

You know, if people like the movie and are willing to buy the look of it, that's fine. But this argument that, basically, it doesn't have to look real because it's a movie about a giant green man need to go away.

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26. "not really."
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>You know, if people like the movie and are willing to buy the
>look of it, that's fine. But this argument that, basically, it
>doesn't have to look real because it's a movie about a giant
>green man need to go away.

those dinosaurs looked fake too. especially in the first one. the hulk CGI, from what i have seen, is much better looking.

thing is, i don't think it looks "fake" at all. i think it looks badass, personally. but...it's the hulk. he should look like this. they nailed it IMO.

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27. "if you are already spending money on the CGI...."
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why not green screen the whole thing.
soft focus on the actors so they look less sharp,
then go animated for the hulk.

now both the live actor
and the animated character
both fit in to the look of the film.

done.

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39. "they already do that for many effects shots."
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13. "If your main problem"
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is that the Hulk looks "fake," then how do you feel about the Lord of the Rings films?

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14. "that's how i expected them do to the hulk both times"
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fuckin paint a dude green ferrigno style and reverse frodo that shit.

  

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41. "Monterey Jack."
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15. "RE: maybe the hulk just isn't meant to be a film"
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IMO the problem with the 2003 film was more story/cinematography than the CG. They nailed the body modeling/motion capture dead on. The only two gripes (although they were killer flaws) were the scaling of his size from 7ft to 12 ft. They got it right the 1st two transformations. Second was his face simply didnt look brutish enough. Other than that it was dead on and faithful (and believable within the context of a Super Hero movie).

The problem with this incarnation and IMO the CG is FAR worse than 2003's version is this. 1) He is far too ripped and lean. The skin looks very odd in terms of texture and the modeling just looks off. Face wise it still isnt brutish enough it simply looks more vicious/feral. The motion capture looks fine from the clips I saw.

The Hulk can be done and done will, I think they keep missing the mark is all. I think they should get WETA workshop to do the CG (I assume this isnt them doing this rendition).


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banner is supposed to be walking in the end with a messenger bag to nowhere.. didn't happen in the 2003 movie...

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18. "RE: maybe the hulk just isn't meant to be a film"
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the old hulk didnt look that dope im sorry. to doughy this hulk looks like the hulk in the 90s mean and lean and powerful and his face is brutish. dude i saw the movie the cgi looks fine the old hulk was cool but not topping this one. besides this movie is way better than angs. trust me if your a hulk fan you will enjoy this movie.

  

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21. "man i couldn't disagree more."
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>The problem with this incarnation and IMO the CG is FAR worse
>than 2003's version is this. 1) He is far too ripped and lean.
>The skin looks very odd in terms of texture and the modeling
>just looks off. Face wise it still isnt brutish enough it
>simply looks more vicious/feral. The motion capture looks fine
>from the clips I saw.

lean and ripped is a good thing. a big, doughy ass monster vs a big, muscular monster. this one has much more detail going on with his face which is a great thing. more vicious and feral is a GREAT thing. brutish? what the hell is brutish any ways? he looks pissed off and wants to destroy everything in his wake. which is a good thing. skin is great, modeling is great. the ripped, lean nature of this one makes him look much more dynamic. not just big; but RIPPED. MEAN. fuck all the 1960's shit... the art evolved. fuck homaging the older ones with a boring looking hulk. the bigger, the leaner, the scarier.

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40. "I'm pretty sure it's not all motion capture. Much/most of Hulk has"
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to be "hand" animated because you can't get a guy in a suit to do all of the things required for the character.

  

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16. "I think the right director and writer could make a good Hulk film."
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I personally don't care about the CGI Hulk. That has ZERO to do with my distaste for the Ang Lee's joint. I just want a well told story. Who knows. Maybe they'll never get it right.






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25. "whatever...I just want to see some shit get smashed."
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and besides....doesn't The Happening come out the same day?

  

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28. "if they muted the green, or made him gray"
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it wouldn't be as bad

  

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55. "People underestimate how hard it is to do green."
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Green is such a hard color to put on the screen. Add to that how hard it is to have a computer generate a workable green and then you have to shade and highlight and all that.

I think you hit on an intrinsic problem with doing the Hulk (visually). Green is a bear of a color to work with and make look real. Especially the particular tone of green that is the Hulk. Dark greens that you can hide in shadows are much easier to do than the Hulk's radioactive green. To a degree, It's not even a matter of technology, it's that we've come across something that's visually very hard to translate from the comic's page to the screen.

Unfortunately, though I think making him gray is something that should be considered and would possibly solve a lot of the problem people seem to be having here, green really is part of the signature for most people.

Personally, I didn't have a big problem with Ang Lee's version, visually or story-wise. It certainly wasn't perfect but I dug it very much. I've said it before, that while I enjoyed it, I completely acknowledge that doing an art-house Hulk film was ill-conceived on many levels, I think one of the best things about that movie was how he capture and personified the hulk. The motion capture was flawless.

Ultimately, I think people would be quite a bit more forgiving of the visuals if there was a bang-up story that people could get behind. People couldn't get behind the last one, that this one looks like it'll be...less than bang-up.

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82. "i really liked ang lee's version too"
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i thought it was pretty bold to take a character that's a mindless wreckin ball and somehow make a quiet thoughtful film with said character at the middle.

Clearly, most folks don't agree though

  

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63. "the green is very much muted. Too much so, perhaps."
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29. "RE: maybe the hulk just isn't meant to be a film"
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ppl should stop being so pragmatic.

i'll be checking for the new hulk flick cuz the director apparently said he is a HUGE fan of the franchise...... jon favreau said the same thing about his affinity for ironman and look how epic that turned out.

plus it was partly filmed where i live (toronto) so it'll be interesting to try to spot local landmarks..... not to mention robert downey jr. has a cameo as tony stark..... that alone should be worth seeing..

IMHO

  

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31. "Advance word is good for this Hulk film. Get ready for a good time."
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32. "Tim Roth as the villain was all I needed to convince me to see it"
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I still remember how good he was as Thade in the POTA remake. That was a terrible movie but his performance still made it worth watching.

  

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33. "RE: Advance word is good for this Hulk film. Get ready for a good time."
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i heard that too...they said the movie is nothing BUT action throughout and the final scene between hulk and abomination makes the final fight in in ironman look lame...

people that's crying about CGI just walk to your nearest video store and watch those lame hulk tv series with a spray painted muscle man

those who wants a movie ACCURATELY depicting how hulk suppose to be...ride for this movie come friday

marvel studios aren't going to fuck this up

  

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44. "You know according to www.imdb.com"
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that "spray painted muscle man" aka Lou Ferrigno actually does the voice of The Incredible Hulk and plays a security guard in this new film.

  

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53. "RE: You know according to www.imdb.com"
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>that "spray painted muscle man" aka Lou Ferrigno actually
>does the voice of The Incredible Hulk and plays a security
>guard in this new film.

He played a security guard in the Ang Lee version as well

  

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54. "RE: You know according to www.imdb.com"
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He also did the Hulk's voice in the '90s cartoon.

Fun is the new gritty

  

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67. "I tried to watch the Ang Lee version on the net one night"
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but I just couldn't get through it. It didn't hold my interest at all.

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34. "maybe they shouldn't have made a new one pretending like they"
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didn't just make a big-budget Hulk movie five years ago.

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35. "This one picks up after the end of the last one."
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It's not a rehash of elements covered in the Ang Lee flick.

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45. "I've heard that while it's not a rehash..."
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it's a totally new film, and not a sequel at all.

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75. "Well it begins with Norton in the rainforest, and the USA lookin for him..."
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Soooooo if it doesn't directly reference the first, it certainly seems to be in sequence.

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77. "although it technically picks up where the first one left off,"
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(geographically speaking)

it cuts all other ties with the first film. The origin story is retooled and retold (via flashbacks), and Banner's home base is moved to the DC area, where he and Betty are (well, Banner WAS) college professors.

  

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211. "RE: although it technically picks up where the first one left off,"
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>(geographically speaking)
>
>it cuts all other ties with the first film. The origin story
>is retooled and retold (via flashbacks), and Banner's home
>base is moved to the DC area, where he and Betty are (well,
>Banner WAS) college professors.

the beginning seems more like a continuation of the beginning of the tv series than the ang lee movie (except they know bruce is still alive vs thinking he was killed b the hulk)

  

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49. "it's a reboot, not a sequel"
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47. "AICN likes it..."
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http://www.aintitcool.com/node/36973

OH HELL YEAH!

You know… Ever since I was a wee lad, I’ve dreamt of a Cinematic Marvel Universe. I think we all have. Tonight, after the screening of THE INCREDIBLE HULK – an audience member asked a question about the concern about continuity with the comic universe – and Kevin Feige went into an answer that referred to “THE CINEMATIC MARVEL UNIVERSE” – and I think I came a little.

After IRON MAN – we began to feel what was happening – but the early trailers for HULK… just didn’t look promising. However, we’ve begun to have some cool scenes popping up online – and the latest trailers have a lot of fun going on in them. But as our audience dove into this latest Marvel tale… You could feel the room getting giddy.

Once again we had solid actors as Banner, Neil and Ross. Betty was beautiful – and then they throw Tim Blake Nelson in. You’ve got to love this new Marvel Universe that has begun. Actors like Robert Downey Jr, Jeff Bridges, Ed Norton, William Hurt, Tim Roth, Sam Jackson and Tim Blake Nelson.

I know you folks loved IRON MAN – I’m right there. I fucking loved it. This is an INCREDIBLE HULK movie to love too. Watching these last two MARVEL films… where Marvel is actually controlling the vertical and the horizontal. Where executive decisions are being made by people whose profession is COMICS and COMIC MOVIES. I can’t fucking tell you how amazing it is to actually… literally… see the Marvel Universe on screen.

And it is much more evident here, than even in IRON MAN.

It’s not just SHIELD or a Tony Stark cameo. Those are the big obvious ones. And you know that the Super-Soldier formula is used here to give Blonsky his first boost… but here’s the geekiest part. The canister that they pull that vial of interesting liquid from… the Doctor’s name is Dr. Reinstein…. Yes, the actual name of the scientist that injected Steve Rogers with the Super Soldier serum… now the key is… they didn’t expose Blonsky to the Vita-Rays which would super-charge that serum and give him that extra boost that made Captain America that extra bit of badass. But, we’ll see that in an upcoming movie, I’m sure.

Here we have a film with characters named Dr. Samson and Samuel Sterns. And we know about their eventuality. And the nods to the past… they’re here too. What’s great is that we don’t just get the Stan Lee cameo, but the Lou Ferrigno and even… Bill Bixby. You’ll see. All this stuff – it’s just little side things. The film doesn’t STOP for these footnotes – and if you’re not a Marvel freak… it’d scream by without a notice.

But as a MARVEL fan – holy shit… they’re doing it. They’re actually fucking doing it. For the first time in our lives as crazy geeky fanboys… the MARVEL UNIVERSE is moving at 24 frames a second in a theater near us.

What about SPIDER-MAN?

Well – SPIDER-MAN did a good job of establishing the SPIDER-MAN UNIVERSE – you never saw Spidey at the Baxter building? Matt Murdoch didn’t walk by. It stayed within the Spidey-specific universe.

Here… shit. Robert Downey Jr… TONY STARK in a Paramount Distributed film called IRON MAN. Yeah. Check. But Robert Downey Jr… as TONY STARK… in a UNIVERSAL distributed film… See, it isn’t hard. You just do it. You just care enough to say… YES, Iron Man can be in a HULK movie… just not quite suited up yet. And yes, that feels fucking awesome.

BUT wait a minute. How does this work as a HULK movie?

One of the attendees of the screening tonight in Austin sent in a review – and they did a comparison that simply… I must reference because it is very accurate. They compared Ang Lee’s HULK to Robert Wise’s STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE. Both films were beautiful, artful and cinematic tellings of prime geek material… HOWEVER – both films failed to move mainstream audiences. They did work for a segment of the audience – but there was a lack of forward momentum. They just didn’t quite GO at the speed that fans hoped for.

Well THE INCREDIBLE HULK – is very much like the re-invention that happened to STAR TREK on STAR TREK II: THE WRATH OF KHAN. Now – I love THE INCREDIBLE HULK, but it isn’t quite STAR TREK II great – but it’s outstanding.

Louis Leterrier has made a HULK movie that first and foremost is badass, kickass and asskicking, but is most certainly not ASS.

THE INCREDIBLE HULK has the call backs to the TV show, in fact… by the end of the film, I think Bruce might even be going by David… At least I think so. I like that Bruce is a character that has been LIVING with this curse/gift. That he’s taken steps to try to handle his problem. And that is very much the Bill Bixby tone of the character. He’s pro-active in trying to CURE himself… but the film isn’t merely a regurgitation of the TV show – it binds the TV show and the Comic into this third universe of Cinema.

Now, I know I’ve been talking a lot about this Cinematic Marvel Universe – but I’ll tell you. I love, love, love – that in THE INCREDIBLE HULK… there’s science fiction weaponry. The Sonic Cannons are OUT-FUCKING-STANDING! The design is goofy and awesome as though Jack Kirby drew them. It’s big and clunky and mounted on the back of an armored vehicle… and that’s AWESOME! And they send waves of power that knock the living shit out of the HULK. And this shit came from Stark Industries. YES!

I love that SHIELD is a scary Big Brother organization that’s monitoring all of our fucking emails. How great is that? Now – if only we’ll get the Helicarrier… and Dum Dum Dugan! And jet packs and skin-tight mission suits – and evil HYDRA and AIM.

These films are on a collision course. They’re building on one another – and Marvel has a supreme chance here to do something that we’ve never seen in cinema… just as they did in Comics. And that’s to create a coherent fantasy Universe across titles, releases and distribution companies.

And if tonight’s audience was any judge… We’re fucking ready, willing and there. I’m dying … dying to see the next 3 years play out with them. Will we see an additional HULK film before the AVENGERS? That will only depend on how this one does. And man… if the tease for THE LEADER is any indication… and fucking Tim Blake Nelson as THE LEADER … well, it’s not David Niven… but it’s fucking Tim Blake Nelson – and that would mean Giant Robots and Humanoids and more awesome scientific funnery. And that’s where we need to go with THE HULK.

Man – I never thought I’d see the day that Marvel would actually get their shit, totally together. This is the sort of thing we’ve been screaming for – and now its actually fucking happening and … man, there should be fucking FIREWORKS and tickertape for this sort of momentous occasion. We should be running in the streets and screaming about how we don’t have Universal Healthcare, we don’t have 10% of Arizona covered with Pond Scum Farms creating Bio-Fuel at 35 cents a gallon… but Goddammit… MARVEL is seriously creating a cohesive MARVEL UNIVERSE. There are signs of a bright future.

Right? We’re gonna be ok. But man… if the entire financial reality collapses and we don’t get to see the AVENGERS movie that we’re building towards… Then GOD… make my clothes hit the ground and take me to Heaven… where this future AVENGERS is on a fucking loop. I can’t Wait! But I must. We’ll all wait… And as THOR comes out and kicks our asses… and IRON MAN 2 whipping up on our asses… Then that fucking period CAPTAIN AMERICA film – which will end with him waking up in the modern world… or floating in that general direction… and being discovered! Well… if those movies continue firing on the same cylinders of these last two… our collective excitement will be really unreasonably friggin high… and there will be those joyless fucks that are pissing on the foreplay these films represent, but ya know what… I don’t know about you – but I’m seeing cheering audiences… and tonight I saw my nephew laying on the floor in front of the guests tonight shaking his hand with the most awesome question that a 7 year old could muster…

“Did that man really turn into the HULK?”

And god damn it – that’s what this is all about. For kids to dream and ask big fucking important questions… Because when you see a man strapped to a lab table and you hear his bones snapping and muscles bursting bigger… and you see the pain on the actor’s face and it hurts… it hurts… to that boy’s eyes… that wasn’t Ed Norton and that wasn’t CG. He was invested enough that he ran from the bathroom, didn’t tell his mom where he was… got in trouble, but he asked the question. “Did that man really turn into the Hulk?”

There’s only one answer. “Yes, that’s why Ed Norton couldn’t be here tonight… it’s too dangerous for the audience!”

Yes. That’s why Ed Norton wasn’t there tonight. And that’s awesome!

  

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50. "the idea it could better than IRONMAN"
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is mind boggling to say the least

  

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51. "Ashamed to say I still haven't seen Iron Man"
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but that part stood out to me too, just from the IR-mania and the grumblings/behaviour of Norton for Hulk.

  

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52. "Harry is a horrible reviewer. And kisses waaaay too much ass"
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However, the other reviewers on the site are MUCH more level headed and they love it.

Im there day 1.

  

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61. "worst "critic" of all time"
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56. "I saw the movie (Frank/Zoo, can we make this the official post?)"
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I don't really know what to say. As long as the film was standard live action, it was great (and far and away better than the first one), but the CGI was terrible.

(Damn, crow tastes so damned nasty)

People complaining about the CGI in Ang Lee's film are to blame for the CGI looking like shit. All the B.S. about "he looks like Shrek" and all that mess. Fuck that. He looked like the Hulk in that movie. Hulk dogs and crazy-ass pops aside, the CGI in the first one was well done. Especially the Hulk-outs and the Hulk's animation.

In this one, though? Rhythm & Hues and their allies spent so much time and effort trying to over-texture everything and make all the surfaces look photorealistic (and make the hulk look like a gnarled tree root). that some of the standard tentpoles of CGI - the animation, the compositing - fell by the wayside. I literally cringed in my seat during many of the CGI sequences - that's how bad they were.

Now, mind you, I work in video and animation by trade, so perhaps I'm too familiar with the processes to step back from it. But ick.

And one other thing the first film got right was a mute Hulk. How can we go from these deep, dramatic Ed Norton scenes (he is perfect in the role, btw, as are nearly all of the other _humans_) to cornball-ass fanboy-service cries of "HULK SMASH?"

Luckily ,the CGI scenes only comprise 20 % to 35% of the film. Everything else is very well done, although it's far more in line with the TV version (we hear the "Lonely Man" theme more than once) than the comics.

Spoilers? You don't need any spoilers. Plotwise, everthing happens exactly the way you think it's going to happen.

The preview audience seemed to enjoy it, though. I felt simultaneously over and underwhelmed. I can see why Norton was fighting so hard for his cut - perhaps it was Hulk-less.

Who has questions?

  

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58. "RE: I saw the movie (Frank/Zoo, can we make this the official post?)"
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>I don't really know what to say. As long as the film was
>standard live action, it was great (and far and away better
>than the first one), but the CGI was terrible.
>
>(Damn, crow tastes so damned nasty)
>
>People complaining about the CGI in Ang Lee's film are to
>blame for the CGI looking like shit. All the B.S. about "he
>looks like Shrek" and all that mess. Fuck that. He looked like
>the Hulk in that movie. Hulk dogs and crazy-ass pops aside,
>the CGI in the first one was well done. Especially the
>Hulk-outs and the Hulk's animation.
>
>In this one, though? Rhythm & Hues and their allies spent so
>much time and effort trying to over-texture everything and
>make all the surfaces look photorealistic (and make the hulk
>look like a gnarled tree root). that some of the standard
>tentpoles of CGI - the animation, the compositing - fell by
>the wayside. I literally cringed in my seat during many of the
>CGI sequences - that's how bad they were.
>
>Now, mind you, I work in video and animation by trade, so
>perhaps I'm too familiar with the processes to step back from
>it. But ick.
>
>And one other thing the first film got right was a mute Hulk.
>How can we go from these deep, dramatic Ed Norton scenes (he
>is perfect in the role, btw, as are nearly all of the other
>_humans_) to cornball-ass fanboy-service cries of "HULK
>SMASH?"
>

Ang Lee's Hulk wasn't actually mute, but why would you say that "Hulk Smash"(besides being an incorrect version of his catch phrase) is fanboy service?

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60. "in _this_ film, it's fanboy service."
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Ed Norton spends nearly an hour creating a plausible, three-dimensional Bruce Banner. Then he turns green(ish) and basically turns into a cartoon character.

It's an inconsistency of tone. Of course, the "Hulk" is a comic book, but that comic book has an overall tone that made a man turning green and nine feet tall plausible (which is different than "realistic"). Even in the first film, it didn't feel like so much of a stretch. Hulk busting out with "Hulk Smash" in this film felt tacked on to me...maybe it was the way they did it - like a Saturday morningesque battle cry. I KNOW that's how it is in the comics/cartoon, but it just felt wrong here, or a the very least it - and a lot of the other action sequence stuff - didn't match up with the tone of the rest of the picture.

In order to keep the tone consistent, they should have treated "The Incredible Hulk" a little more like a monster movie. It was 100% there in the pure live action portions, but only 60% there in the CGI portions. If he HAD to talk (there really wasn't any reason Hulk HAD to talk), his voice shouldn't have been multitracked four times and drowned in effects. The characters can sound creepy without it turning into cheese.

And IIRC, Ang Lee's Hulk doesn't do anything but roar. He "thought balloons" a "TAKE IT LL!" at the end of the picture, and Banner has a dream sequences where his alter ego calls him a "puny human".

(and what IS the correct version of the character's catchphrase - or should I have typed it in all caps with exclamation points?)

  

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69. "RE: in _this_ film, it's fanboy service."
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>Ed Norton spends nearly an hour creating a plausible,
>three-dimensional Bruce Banner. Then he turns green(ish) and
>basically turns into a cartoon character.
>
>It's an inconsistency of tone. Of course, the "Hulk" is a
>comic book, but that comic book has an overall tone that made
>a man turning green and nine feet tall plausible (which is
>different than "realistic"). Even in the first film, it didn't
>feel like so much of a stretch. Hulk busting out with "Hulk
>Smash" in this film felt tacked on to me...maybe it was the
>way they did it - like a Saturday morningesque battle cry. I
>KNOW that's how it is in the comics/cartoon, but it just felt
>wrong here, or a the very least it - and a lot of the other
>action sequence stuff - didn't match up with the tone of the
>rest of the picture.
>>>

Okay now that makes sense to me.


>In order to keep the tone consistent, they should have treated
>"The Incredible Hulk" a little more like a monster movie.>>>>

After Ang Lee's supposed "flop" there was no possible way that was going to happen. Before Norton got involved the plan was to make the movie 100% pure super-heroic action.

It
>was 100% there in the pure live action portions, but only 60%
>there in the CGI portions. If he HAD to talk (there really
>wasn't any reason Hulk HAD to talk), his voice shouldn't have
>been multitracked four times and drowned in effects. The
>characters can sound creepy without it turning into cheese.
>>>

Now this is disappointing to hear. I absolutely loved Lou's version of the Hulk's voice in the '90s cartoon and I was hoping that it would be delivered in the same way.


>And IIRC, Ang Lee's Hulk doesn't do anything but roar. He
>"thought balloons" a "TAKE IT LL!" at the end of the picture,
>and Banner has a dream sequences where his alter ego calls him
>a "puny human".
>>>>

True he never spoke in the real world, but he had a voice, his lips moved...<shug> I wouldn't consider him mute.

>(and what IS the correct version of the character's
>catchphrase - or should I have typed it in all caps with
>exclamation points?)

Up until the late '80s the phrase was "hulk will smash". It wasn't so much as a battle cry as it was his typical solution to his problems.

"If the planes keep hounding Hulk, then Hulk will smash" etc.

At some point writers and fans concluded that instead of simply talking in the third person that the Hulk was actually talking in cave-man speak, so lines like "Hulk doesn't understand what is going on, but if the puny humans do not leave Hulk alone, then Hulk will smash" becomes "Hulk not understand. Hulk smash puny humans".

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65. "I never had much of a problem with the Ang Lee version CGI"
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(there was plenty of other wack shit to focus on)

But it came on TV not so long ago and what struck me as 'fake' about it wasn't so much the Hulk himself, but the way he didn't really seem to occupy the space he was in. Like he'd be walking, and the animation was good enough, but then I'd notice the way his feet touched the ground and he seemed kind of weightless. Any improvement this time around? If not I suppose they can re-remake the movie a third time. There's always next year.

Couple more questions Mr. President:

1 Hulk actually says 'Hulk Smash' in this one?

2 Any cool fanboy nods/Avengers teasers/cameos/etc?

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70. "no improvement on ground contact."
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>Any improvement this time around? If not I
>suppose they can re-remake the movie a third time. There's
>always next year.

The poor compositing on ground contact shadows didn't help either. But beyond that, the Hulk and the Abomination seem to glide across the ground in some shots - almost reminded me of Gizmo in Gremlins 2.

>
>Couple more questions Mr. President:
>
>1 Hulk actually says 'Hulk Smash' in this one?
Yessir.
>
>2 Any cool fanboy nods/Avengers teasers/cameos/etc?
Too many to recount. This was one of the good things about it. The Stan Lee cameo is a mess (a good one). Ferrigno shows up, and there's plenty of supporting Marvel characters (Doc Samson for example) either seen briefly or mentioned in some way or form.

  

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76. "I heard that "Hulk Smash!" shit on the radio & thought it was a fan"
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I had no idea that was him saying it in the movie.

*SMH*

I'm still pretty stoked to see it tho.

  

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85. "Agreed 100% on Ang's CGI Hulk"
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I thought the first Hulk got unneccessary hate. I heard to many people crying for a "real" Hulk like Lou Ferigno or a prosthetic Hulk like the Hyde in the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.

I'm definitely gonna check for this one but the CGI in the trailers look gross.

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68. "RE: maybe the hulk just isn't meant to be a film"
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you really thought the cg looked bad huh? i thouht it looked better than the first one the first one seemed weightless and doughy. it looked like a big green man not the hulk. this version looked more like the hulk in the 90's. but i guess its which ever design you perfer. the ang lee movie was cool but i gotta say this movie was miles better. the action was off the chain. but i didnt see a probleam with him talking hell he talks in the comics. all in all i thought it was dope. keep in mind i am i huge hulk fan and also im the type of cat when i go to the movie i suspend my belief . but if you cats have any question on the movie feel free to ask.

  

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78. "question: quite simply, would you say it's any good?"
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does it hold up to Iron Man, the first two Spider-Mans and X-Mens?
is there any legs left in franchise?

  

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79. "RE: question: quite simply, would you say it's any good?"
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i thought it was good. i dont mind specail effects and i thought the story was good its an action movie. also i think this film has the best superhero villan fight ever. next to when spidey fought doc ock on the train. so i would say compareing to iron man which i gave a 9/10. i give hulk a 8/10.

  

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80. "I'm already looking forward to the DVD. Here's why: (LANK!)"
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http://www.collider.com/entertainment/interviews/article.asp/aid/8173/tcid/1

Hopefully its not strictly Blu-Ray tho. I'm not sure if I'm gonna be ready to switch over by the time it comes out.

  

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81. "I'd switch over to Blu-Ray for 70 more mins of *live-action* Hulk footag..."
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I predict fan edits in the future.

  

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89. "blu-ray only (swipe)"
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that's the story i read yesterday.

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=1390
"During an interview with director Louis Leterrier, he mentioned that the upcoming Blu-ray release of 'The Incredible Hulk', which is set to be released this Friday, will contain 70 minutes of cut footage. Apparently, during the editing process, some much-loved scenes got cut (including one which is in the trailer, but won't be in the final cut of the film), and the Blu-ray will showcase them all.

"There's some great stuff and there's some really horrible stuff, but you'll see it all," commented Leterrier. Regardless, Blu-ray fans will get to see a side of the film that (apparently) those who buy the DVD won't.

Those close to the situation have speculated a falling-out between Leterrier and the film's star Edward Norton over the cutting of certain scenes. Here's hoping that the Blu-ray also has some nice intros from them both on why they loved the scene and why it was eventually cut."
>http://www.collider.com/entertainment/interviews/article.asp/aid/8173/tcid/1
>
>Hopefully its not strictly Blu-Ray tho. I'm not sure if I'm
>gonna be ready to switch over by the time it comes out.

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84. "I watched the HBO first look last night"
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and I can't even front, I'm cysed. Those trailers had me so stoked to hate, but that special proved me otherwise. I really WANT to see this now, granted those first looks are supposed to make movies look good, but nonetheless I'm excited

  

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86. "so how does his pants stay on cause demin doesn't stretch like that"
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87. "they address this in the movie - more than once."
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172. "they did this time"
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88. "Unstable molecules"
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Everything in the Marvel U is made of them, apparently.

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91. "Hey, thanks to Universal/Marvel for showing a part of the (SPOILER)"
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Robert Downey Jr. aka Tony Stark cameo IN THE COMMERCIAL

I understand why they did it, but I personally would have kept it under wraps (even though it's been reported for the longest that the cameo was in there)
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219. "LMMFAO"
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94. "Yeah, but that part leaked months ago"
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It was in the clip that Marvel showed at NY Comicon in hopes of tying a movie that was (at the time) tracking badly with a movie that was tracking really well. And that was the pint when the buzz for Hulk started turning a little positive.

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96. "Yeah, even the commercial said 'As GOOD AS IRONMAN!'"
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as one of the reviewer bylines they flashed.

They fear the indifference from how the first one performed.

  

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128. "(SPOILER) All due respect, but I don't give a darn if they ran a"
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24 hour loop at Jay and Silent Bob's Secret Stash, you just don't ruin that plot point

Most of the moviegoing audience may have heard of such a cameo, but they haven't all seen it.... even so, it would have been one of those "we know the final destination, but how do we get there" scenarios

And it comes at the very end of the movie, which makes it even worse (that and the fact that it should have come AFTER the credits, just to be consistent with Iron Man's scene, imo)

They simply should have had more faith in the film they had, the brand name (yeah, I know)
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93. "Finish seeing the movie"
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HULK SMASH!!!

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95. "Even tho this one is chock full of action, I still liked the 1st one bet..."
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CGI wise I think the Hulk looked better in the 1st one.

Sam Elliott>>>>>>>>>>>>>>William Hurt as Ross

Jennifer Connelly>>>>>>>>>Liv Tyler as Betty

Norton was only slightly better than Bana & Tim Roth did the best he could with the script but Josh Lucas was the better bad guy.

I dont know if I dozed off a couple times or what but it seemed pretty obvious that a lot of scenes were cut out & the editing & pacing was kinda choppy. The Abomination stand off at the end is right on par with the final battle in Iron Man but overall it's not even close as far as which ones the better movie.

I'm not sure if this is a legit gripe or a typical comic book thing but I couldn't help but *smh* when its clear skies during the action sequence on the college campus, but all of a sudden as soon as there's a firey explosion...it starts fucking pouring down rain outta nowhere?!?!? C'mon.

There's another scene that also left me *smh* where Banner spills some of his blood which leads him to being tracked down in Brazil. He notices his blood next to all these bottles & makes sure to wipe it off there. But doesn't notice it dripping down from 1 of the bottles right next to where he just wiped?!?!? C'mon part deux. Although that does lead to a nice Stan Lee cameo. I thought they could've done a little som'n more with the cameo but Stan probably didn't have the acting chops & the creative team might've been lackin dat vision. I just read that Stan said he wants more than a "blink" for his cameo in the sequel. Stan's mad that he didn't have a chance to get mad in this one. The Stark cameo was nice as well but pretty much the same type of add-on used after that Iron Man credits.

Overall both flicks are pretty similar but Ang Lee's version tops Frenchy's imo. Neither are perfect but I liked the performances & the score better in the 1st one. It also felt more like a comic book on screen the way it was shot. The cinematogrphy is pretty nice in this latest version as well tho.

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200. "After watching the 1st one again last nite, Bana>>>>>Norton"
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97. "THE LEADER!!!!"
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n/m

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98. "I wish I had known you were a comic geek back in the day"
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could've added some levity to some old activist discussions.

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152. "LOL!!! n/m"
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>could've added some levity to some old activist discussions.
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120. "LOL! RIGHT!"
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136. "RE: THE LEADER!!!!"
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is that who ol' prof is going to end up as?

  

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153. "Yep"
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99. "just finished watching it and it was pretty dope."
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Yep definitely a good outing by Marvel. I walked in thinking it would suck.

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100. "ahroo?"
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157. "Sorry Pedia my man, I thought it would be trash..."
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I went ONLY because my father and brother asked me to go. I walked out presently surprised. The action was super on point. Story could have been better and they have work to do but overall I would give it a B. Maybe a B-.

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101. "The Incredible Hulk Was Great"
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The family loved it....



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102. "AWESOME movie. Don't take little kids to see it, though. Mad violent."
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The only flaws were 2-3 scenes being just a few seconds too long and the whole rain breaking out in one scene when there were previously no rain clouds to be seen.

Outside of that, everything about the movie was great. Banner had Batman Begins-like development, the main villain is great and built-up throughout the entire movie, references were made to the live-action AND animated series, and the 3 action sequences had brilliant sound and looked at least as believable as CGI can. The Hulk and The Abomination (as he is only described by a title once) are horrifying, especially the latter.

And no, the catchphrases are hardly present. HULK SMASH is only uttered once in the final battle---he otherwise doesn't speak, only grunts and yells. The "you wouldn't like me when I'm angry" bit is only used once, near the beginning, and is misspoken in Portuguese (I couldn't make this stuff up).

The Incredible Hulk=Spider-Man 2> both FF movies>The Hulk
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103. "that misspoken thing was intentional."
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you do know that right? showing that banners spanish/Portuguese wasn't quite up to snuff.

i agree completely on everything though.

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104. "Yeah, I know. The Sesame Street part had a point, we found."
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The part when he's hitchhiking acknowledges the differences, too. That was a nice touch.

To think of it, the CGI for that one military carrier somehow ended up looking faker than either monster. That was another of the few awkward things in the movie.

  

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109. "I could swear I heard a few other words"
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"he otherwise doesn't speak, only grunts and yells"

In the bottling plant he says "leave me alone" in a growl
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177. "He does."
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During the first "incident", you can hear him mumble "Leave me alone". Also, towards the end, he says "Betty".

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105. "Damn this movie was fuckin GREAT!"
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Along with Iron Man, Marvel is kicking some ass right now in the movie business.

And the special effects on Hulk were some of the best I have seen, maybe ever.

Nothing is fuckin with the stuff that Transformers, Cloverfield, Iron Man, and Hulk have brought special effects wise over the past couple.

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107. "the CAVE scene was EPIC"
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loved the movie.....as a comic book fan it made me feel like a kid again...


why i got this feeling that the avengers movie is going to be about them BATTLING the hulk???? with the archnemisis being "the leader"???

  

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106. "you guys could not be more wrong"
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this movie was good. parts i liked...

Rickson Gracie cameo
Doc Samson
Super Soldier serum
The Leader
Lou looks huge STILL
not having to wait until the end of the credits to see RDJ clip

lol @ you clowns who seriously sitting here having a discussion about how "fake" the Hulk looks. he's probably one of the more fantastic creatures in all of comics. i really don't see what more you want. dude doesn't even look real in comic books! and unless you actually work in the special fx industry, i really don't want to hear what you have to say about how the fx looked.

  

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203. "i was one of those who thought it looked fake..."
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based off the trailers.

but having scene the movie, i now know the error of my ways. lol

that cave scene was amazing, btw!

  

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108. "Hulk Smash! *spoilers*"
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I swear to god I've never had a bigger fan boy moment during any movie that when I heard that! That, the hand clap, sonic cannons, Tony Stark, Super Soldier serum, Leader setup and him choking the shit out of Abomination at the end was enough for me. Great movie for anyone who's a fan of the 70s Hulk comics. I was really worried about this flick but god damn if they didn't pull it off. I'm loving the new era of Marvel movies with all the tie ins.
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110. "WOW. just wow."
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amazing. I must say, coming in and reading reviews and such, my expections were very low. I can't believe that critics actually gave it such a low grade. I think the burdden of Ang's Hulk rub off of this, but this movie was great. The cameos, the action, and the story was great. I want to see the full cut that Ed Norton watched! Anyways, I very much hyped with the Avengers movie. DOPE!



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111. "that movie was a comic book/TV geek orgasm"
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they paid homages to the TV series thru out (the bill bixby cameo, the lou cameo, the reporter, the isolated fugitive, changing his name to "david")

while going bananas on the comic book side (the endless S.H.I.E.L.D./capt america references and clues, the origin of "the leader", tony stark's cameo, teaching himself how to turn into the hulk at his OWN will, the hidden THOR foreshadow, and of course tieing everything up to set-off THE AVENGERS)

anybody that HATES on this movie, hates comic books PERIOD!!

  

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112. "I must've missed the Thor foreshadowing part. What was it?"
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>the hidden THOR foreshadow

  

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113. "when hulk got hostile at the thunder & lightening"
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that was PURE thor symbolism.....

  

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115. "to give you a clearer understanding to this hint/ clue"
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Writer-editor Stan Lee described Thor's genesis as following the creation of the Hulk:

“ ow do you make someone stronger than the strongest human? It finally came to me: Don't make him human — make him a god. I decided readers were already pretty familiar with the Greek and Roman gods. It might be fun to delve into the old Norse legends.... Besides, I pictured Norse gods looking like Vikings of old, with the flowing beards, horned helmets, and battle clubs. ...Journey into Mystery, needed a shot in the arm, so I picked Thor ... to headline the book. After writing an outline depicting the story and the characters I had in mind, I asked my brother, Larry, to write the script because I didn't have time. ...nd it was only natural for me to assign the penciling to Jack Kirby....

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116. "Thanks. That definitely makes sense."
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129. "bill bixby?"
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what scene? and how?




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130. "(SPOILER)"
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When David Banner was still in the favelas, he's in his crib, flipping through the TV, and comes upon a clip of Bill Bixby on his old show, The Courtship of Eddie's Father

I thought it was a nice nod to the late actor.
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147. "right afterwards was Elmo right?"
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I thought I saw a familiar face. My girl was asking questions, so I wasn't really paying attention.




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148. "I believe it was Grover."
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149. "there was symbilism in that too"
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1st showing bixby then showing the "monster" afterwards....

  

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114. "it was ok"
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the one thing that i can't figure out and really taints the movie for me is what the hell the army did with the abomination after hulk leaves at the end. i mean, he wasn't dead and he heals fast as shit so 10 minutes after the hulk bolts from the scene the abomination should have been up and kicking everyones ass again.

holes like that can almost completely ruin a movie for me.

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117. "wait for the DVD..they got 70 minutes of extra footage"
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it erked me as well, but not for me to dislike the movie...

  

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118. "RE: wait for the DVD..they got 70 minutes of extra footage (Minor spoile..."
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Unfortunately, the extra footage will be blu-ray release only.

The movie was a great surprise for me. The teases and set up for future movies and team-ups were done very well. The editing sucked though and I hope the extra footage on the home video release will help it out. Someone mentioned earlier that the film seemed very jerky or parts just didn't seem to make sense and I have to agree. Yeah, how did the army deal with the Abomination and keep him locked down?

It is an awesome time to be a comic book/movie geek. Now that Marvel is in charge of the movie productions, however, I wonder how the other franchises like Spiderman, Fantastic Four, X-Men will be treated now. I doubt Sony would allow Toby to do a cameo as Peter Parker in a Daredevil or Punisher(actually a sequel is coming out in December 2008) reboot.

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131. "I was thinking about this too"
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> I
>wonder how the other franchises like Spiderman, Fantastic
>Four, X-Men will be treated now. I doubt Sony would allow
>Toby to do a cameo as Peter Parker in a Daredevil or
>Punisher(actually a sequel is coming out in December 2008)
>reboot.

It sucks they can't bring some of Marvels biggest characters into the universe thats being created. Not sure I'd want the ones we've seen the last few summers any way. Iron Man and Hulk have me wishing for Spider-Man, FF & DD reboots.


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119. "RE: it was ok"
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well, that's not the only i didn't like. the other stupid thing that stuck out to me was when they had bruce trapped in that walkway and they gassed him giving him the chance to hulk-out. well, was it not just 10 minutes prior in the movie that they were using powerful tranquilers shot from guns?? instead, they are on a college campus full of people toting machine guns and shooting 50 cals.

its the stuff like this that i chalk up to poor writing/directing and enough of these things is what makes the difference between a good movie and a great one. another example is the sudden rain that others have mentioned.

yes, i did enjoy it by the way, i just don't think it was a particularly good movie.

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125. "now you're reaching...considering this IS a marvel comic"
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but to put it into context...OBVIOUSLY the tranquilizers did not work, or regular bullets for that matter

therefore the all out army was needed for that occasion

HOWEVER, keep in consideration...they WERE trying to attempt to snipe him unknowingly...it's just that bruce saw one of the snipers ahead of time therefore there was no choice...

i think they tried to gas him out believeing that would of been the safest thing to do, BUT once you become the HULK everything's out the window

  

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169. "they will get to this later, but..."
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in Iron Man if you remember at the end, the S.H.I.E.L.D. dude said that they "took care" of Obidiah Stane (Iron Monger). In the comics, they have a "super villain prison" called the Triskelion. it's run by S.H.I.E.L.D. I'll assume that they did the same with Abomination. it's kind of like the Arkam Asylum of Marvel comics. i'm sure this should be addressed in the Avengers movie.

  

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185. "Triskellion isn't a prison"
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It's the Ultimates headquarters.

In the regular Marvel Universe the Supervillains are kept in The Raft. And before that The Vault.

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205. "it's not just a prison"
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it is their headquarters and other things but underneath, they keep the super powered bad guys in special holding cells. they've also keep Bruce Banner, Thor and Henry Pym down there.

  

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121. "lol @ Stan Lee"
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122. "Just saw it..."
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and I want to see it again. Very good movie. Marvel is doing superhero movies the way they should be done. Goosebumps on the Marvel Movie Universe. The Leader, Capt. America references, Tony Stark. Damn my comic book nerd is out right now.

  

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124. "i was lauging at damn near every nod like a little bitch"
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in anticipation

  

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123. "Just got back......the shit was all kinds of dope"
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126. "saw it 1.5 times"
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shit was good

  

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127. "Had a better time than I thought I would"
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I agree with jigga that the pacing was VERY choppy, which did a disservice to the story they were trying to tell

(btw, for all intents and purposes, this IS a sequel, gang...)

But I loved most of the action sequences and the nods to the TV show... lots of us in the audience laughed in recognition...

I think the Tony Stark cameo (which, if they wanted to be consistent, should have come AFTER the credits and Universal SHOULD NOT HAVE given away in the commercials) highlighted what one could argue is a problem with the movie: Bruce Banner isn't much of a character here. True, he doesn't have to be as charismatic as Tony Stark, and I'm sure that "but Bruce is like that in the comic," yay, great. But I don't know if it was just Norton's performance or what, but I was only invested because I knew the character from the TV show, Norton didn't really add much new to him. It says something that Mr. Blue and Tony Stark got more laughter and applause from the audience than Bruce did.

And don't get me started on Livvy Liv's character and performance...

Nonetheless, I'm saying I dug it because of the action sequences and the cameos (Stan the Man, Lou Ferrigno, the Bill Bixby shout-out, and Michael K. Williams' brief brief brief cameo as well)...
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132. "Liv was perfect. Her character, I mean. It was a little odd."
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She's mad smart, beautiful, doesn't get mad at Bruce at all, puts outs easy to him after only just seeing him again after 1.5 days, and isn't frightened by The Hulk? Wha?

  

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134. "RE: Had a better time than I thought I would"
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the tony stark cameo didn't need to be after the credits because the secret BEEN out about it....i had a feeling that their ORIGINAL intent was to put it after the credits, but once it was leaked along with they NEEDED a buzz for this movie, it's logical as to why stark waws placed in the trailer commercial

also, i felt the triumph of ironman was also its' flaw of that movie....stark's swag was SO effective, it made ironman uninteresting....the movie was SUPPOSE to be about the alter-ego, and not entitled "tony stark"

just like with this movie...people didn't WANT to go see this movie for bruce banner...they went to see THE HULK and in that regard is whut they achieved


  

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207. "PAUSE: Stark/IM is not Bruce Wayne/Batman"
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Bruce Wayne is all the mellow playboy, scholar and gentleman in his civvies, but then gets in uniform and becomes this surly but calculating bastard with a frustration behind his punch.

Stark isn't schizophrenic like that by comparison, nor are most Marvel characters. He is always who he is, just not telling the world he's Tony when he's in the armor.

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137. "why should banner have been a comedian? wouldnt have worked"
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>(btw, for all intents and purposes, this IS a sequel,
>gang...)

not at all. the only nod really was him being in south america. other then that.. it's it's own movie with it's own origin and continuity. the hulk was created in a lab, in this one; a sequel would have had him born with it do to his father having it. it's basically just the quickest reboot we've seen.

>I think the Tony Stark cameo (which, if they wanted to be
>consistent, should have come AFTER the credits and Universal
>SHOULD NOT HAVE given away in the commercials) highlighted
>what one could argue is a problem with the movie: Bruce Banner
>isn't much of a character here. True, he doesn't have to be
>as charismatic as Tony Stark, and I'm sure that "but Bruce is
>like that in the comic," yay, great. But I don't know if it
>was just Norton's performance or what, but I was only invested
>because I knew the character from the TV show, Norton didn't
>really add much new to him. It says something that Mr. Blue
>and Tony Stark got more laughter and applause from the
>audience than Bruce did.

of course stark will get more laughter and applause, because thats his character. fast talking, smart assed, billionaire playboy. it's hard to be a comic when you are running for your life, hiding out for years, trying to control your anger in ways no one else ever has to because YOU will turn into a huge monster who is marked for death because you destroy everything in your path. you cant even fuck your woman. not exactly an existence that lends itself to wise cracks. when you are so fed up with everything that you attempt to kill yourself and trying to find a way to rid yourself of this thing, you aren't really in a mood to crack wise.

banner is a "character", he just isn't a "card". sorry, a happy go lucky wise cracking banner doesn't do it for me. a handful of people have told me this "iron man was funnier though". i fail to see why banner needs to be a wise ass, or how a few jokes make me care about him.

i am invested because this dude is going through some shit and i would like to see him gain control of his curse so it can be his gift (which appears to be what we got at the end). i also wanted to see that gift destroy shit and i got that. jokes? had no use for them in this one.

aat any rate, why should all these movies have that same tone? they each have their own story, their own path and own character. The Incredible Hulk shouldn't have the comic tone of Iron Man, because it doesn't call for it. they are part of a grander scheme, a bigger picture to be sure- but so is a circle of friends, and in such a circle everyone has their own problems, own demons, and everyones home has a different situation.

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138. "I don't recall saying I wanted him to be a comedian."
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>>(btw, for all intents and purposes, this IS a sequel,
>>gang...)
>
>not at all. the only nod really was him being in south
>america. other then that.. it's it's own movie with it's own
>origin and continuity. the hulk was created in a lab, in this
>one; a sequel would have had him born with it do to his father
>having it. it's basically just the quickest reboot we've seen.

*rolls eyes*



>>I think the Tony Stark cameo (which, if they wanted to be
>>consistent, should have come AFTER the credits and Universal
>>SHOULD NOT HAVE given away in the commercials) highlighted

>
>of course stark will get more laughter and applause, because
>thats his character. fast talking, smart assed, billionaire
>playboy. it's hard to be a comic when you are running for your
>life, hiding out for years, trying to control your anger in
>ways no one else ever has to because YOU will turn into a huge
>monster who is marked for death because you destroy everything
>in your path. you cant even fuck your woman. not exactly an
>existence that lends itself to wise cracks. when you are so
>fed up with everything that you attempt to kill yourself and
>trying to find a way to rid yourself of this thing, you aren't
>really in a mood to crack wise.
>
>banner is a "character", he just isn't a "card". sorry, a
>happy go lucky wise cracking banner doesn't do it for me. a
>handful of people have told me this "iron man was funnier
>though". i fail to see why banner needs to be a wise ass, or
>how a few jokes make me care about him.


But see, I didn't need him to be a comic, or a "happy go lucky wise cracking" cad. And I fully understood the pathos and tragedy of his situation. But Norton's performance still left a lot to be desired. Maybe Norton's cut allowed him to get more into the character, but as it is, this choppy cut dulled his performance.


>i am invested because this dude is going through some shit and
>i would like to see him gain control of his curse so it can be
>his gift (which appears to be what we got at the end). i also
>wanted to see that gift destroy shit and i got that. jokes?
>had no use for them in this one.

Which is why I said that I only cared because I was familiar with Bruce Banner's situation, thanks to the TV show. And again, I didn't need him to break out a Dave Attell routine, or do an Axel Foley impersonation. However, something was missing.


>aat any rate, why should all these movies have that same tone?
>they each have their own story, their own path and own
>character. The Incredible Hulk shouldn't have the comic tone
>of Iron Man, because it doesn't call for it. they are part of
>a grander scheme, a bigger picture to be sure- but so is a
>circle of friends, and in such a circle everyone has their own
>problems, own demons, and everyones home has a different
>situation.

Where did we say that each of these movies need to have "the same tone?" And where else did we say it had to have the same "comic tone" as Iron Man? The only thing that I said should have been "consistent" was the placing of the recruitment cameo after the credits. I said nothing about comedy or the "comedic tone" that was lacking in the film.
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213. "why not just explain your position on the sequel thing?"
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>*rolls eyes*

i don't see how it's a sequel. instead of providing a logical rationale as to why this should even be considered a sequel, it's just a roll of the eyes? seems a little on the snarky side without much reason imo.

>But see, I didn't need him to be a comic, or a "happy go lucky
>wise cracking" cad.
>It says something that Mr. Blue
>and Tony Stark got more laughter and applause from the
>audience than Bruce did.

that was your original statement. both of those characters warranted laughs and applause; of course they warranted applause, because they were essentially easter eggs to the fans. banners doesn't warrant the hootin, hollerin applause because he's the main character. the lack of him generating much laughter- again, goes to the central theme of HIS character. what is there to laugh about with bruce? i don't get what it "says", outside of them eing better vehicles for comic relief then banner.

maybe you didn't need him to be a wise ass but you sort of imply that you don't care because he doesn't give you a reason to smile.

plus, some of that response has to do with reaction across the board- a LOT of people throw out that "..but it's not as funny as ironman" thing- here and the "real" world- and it baffles me. different movie entirely and it does not call for that type of humor IMO (although i am sure a little more could have been slipped in without altering the mood too much) and it really isn't an issue.

And I fully understood the pathos and
>tragedy of his situation. But Norton's performance still left
>a lot to be desired. Maybe Norton's cut allowed him to get
>more into the character, but as it is, this choppy cut dulled
>his performance.

well i agree for the most part- although i think he did a great performance. it wasn't his performance that lacked, it was the lack of depth in the character development part, which as stated probably shows more of that element and fleshes things out more. those extra scenes might go a long way in that direction.

>Which is why I said that I only cared because I was familiar
>with Bruce Banner's situation, thanks to the TV show. And
>again, I didn't need him to break out a Dave Attell routine,
>or do an Axel Foley impersonation. However, something was
>missing.

yeah, something was missing- i just didn't feel that humor was one of them. and a dave attell routine isn't funny anyways, so that wouldn't help anyways.

>Where did we say that each of these movies need to have "the
>same tone?" And where else did we say it had to have the same
>"comic tone" as Iron Man? The only thing that I said should
>have been "consistent" was the placing of the recruitment
>cameo after the credits. I said nothing about comedy or the
>"comedic tone" that was lacking in the film.

in all fairness, this should have had it's own post. it was based on the reaction at large- i have just seen and heard an awful lot of "it's not as fun as iron man" comments and the comment you made regarding blue and stark getting more laughs was sort of lumped into that whole and i addressed it in this post, though it should have had it's own.

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143. "Michael K. Williams?"
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When did he show up?

  

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144. "Near the beginning of Abomination's rampage, before Norton comes."
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156. "Yeah I yelled out OMAR!"
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I felt like I was the only one who peeped him.

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133. "*cues up Wolverine* (SPOILER, SPOILER)"
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SPOILER






So, Banner ends up in Canada. I know that Marvel doesn't have Logan's full rights, but I could see them paying some "product placement money" or something to try to get a tie-in in somehow.

  

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135. "RE: *cues up Wolverine* (SPOILER, SPOILER)"
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no, it would more than likely tie hulk up with wedingo {s/p}

  

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170. "Wendigo n/m"
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139. "Incredible!!!"
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i really enjoyed it. i loved the cameos and the nods to all the fanboys. i'm so glad that marvel is now in control of their films now.

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140. "Twas a pile o' shit."
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142. "PRETTY MUCH!"
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159. "agreed...glad i bought a ticket for the happening when i saw it"
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141. "much better than i expected"
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Yeah, this shit is a sequel to the last one...I mean, it ain't...but it is.

They did a great job of establishing a completely different tone from ang lee's version. This joint is an action flick, all the way thru.


I really dug the fight between the hulk and blonsky at the college. Great sneak peek at the supersoldier shit.

  

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146. "it's a REBOOT not a sequel"
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the only thing sequel related is it starts off in south america in which the last one ended and lou plays another security gaurd....other than that it's not a sequel

completely different cast, completely different director, completely different story

that's just like stating that "batman begins" is a prequel to "batman"

  

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145. "It was a good action movie and fun to watch"
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yeah of course it had its holes and wasn't perfect but it was far better than both FF, Spiderman 3, X-Men 3, DD, Ghostrider, and The Punisher.

It wasn't quite as good as Iron Man but it wasn't as far behind as some would have you think.

I liked the first version and I felt this one was actually better. I thought all the fight scenes were done really well and were exciting to watch, especially the last one between Hulk and Abomination. The acting was good, although I did like Sam Elliott better as the general.

Yes I had some questions, such as what happened to the Abomination in the end.

  

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167. "RE:Sam Elliot"
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100% General Ross...this new guy just played him straight comic book. Elliot had subtleties going on that this new dude just couldn't pull off.

  

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175. "To each their own"
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I hated Sam Elliot as Ross

But then I hated everything about that movie
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150. "GREAT movie. 2-for-2 comic book movies so far"
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with Batman still to come...

  

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151. "Question (Spoiler)"
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So when The Abomination knocks Mr. Blue down and some of Banner's blood leaks into his head wound and his head starts swelling and he smiles is this some clue to the sequel or something what is he going to become or eventually be?

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154. "Answer in a link (spoiler)"
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155. "cool, thanks"
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158. "I really enjoyed the film"
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Much, much better than that crap called "The Happening."

  

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160. "Someone tell me why Tim Roth had an English accent."
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I mean, I don't know the origin of his character...but dude was in the US Air Force. With an English accent. What the hell?

And talk about a bad performance...Liv Tyler is awful.

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161. "Because he was in the British Military"
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I think the Royal Airforce? They mention it in the movie, that he was Russian by birth, grew up in the UK and was in their military. The US military guy said he called in a favor to get him.

  

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162. "he was on loan from the royal navy...one line of dialouge."
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i'm serious

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163. "what else would you want?"
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They said that he was on loan from the Royal Navy, even showed him wearing a Royal Navy dress uniform in other scenes. All you need was one line explaining that, anything else would be a waste of time.

  

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174. "An M Night Dogg cameo & a twist @ the end"
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198. "^^ didn't pay attention"
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164. "great action movie but overall just an average movie"
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the editing was very poor due to the cut scenes from what i read

- liv tylers performance is terrible and bland....she looks good though

- banner's charactter was much more interesting in the 1st one as we got to know him more. Nortan did a good job but Banner's scenes never really took off and anyway. shorts and static.

- i really liked the actors all in te 1st one better but Norton did a good job and tim roth did a good job with what he was given.

- the cgi was a lot better than waht i thought but the first movie got it right.

- the action was great and really showed that how bad ass the hulk is. the abomination fight was up there with some of the best superhero fights.

overall, i'd give it a 7/10.

  

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165. "It was pretty good. Better then what people were saying"
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The pyschologist boyfriend of Betty Ross was Doc Sampson right?
The Leader, Abomination, Tony Stark. Fantastic

They are really trying to go for this epic Avengers movie in 3 years right?

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176. "The sequel should have Doc Samsom and The Leader"
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You can get an early Hulk/Samson battle over Betty and then later team up to fight The Leader and his Humanoids. They did a good job setting up the second film. It's a no brainer.
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166. "RE: The Incredible Hulk"
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The Hulk moved a lot better in the first movie than in this one in my opinion. First movie showed that the Hulk was limitless in bounding all over the southwest of the United States. This Hulk on the other hand was more confined to his immediate environments, but went Ultimate Destruction in a scene or two (making weapons), but still didn't show the full capability of the Hulk. Seemed like they wanted to power him down a little. Oh well. Still a fun movie for the nephew. Didn't have any issues with Hulk talking, it would have been great if he talked more in my opinion. Also the fight scenes were a little too choreographed and jumbled and lacked the visceral savage punch-a-Hulked-Out-Pitbull-in-the-nuts-kind of rage that was in the first one.

Good cameos tho'.

I give it a B- for slightly above average flick. Iron Man was better, which is a shame in the scope of the Marvel Universe really.

  

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173. "i disagree"
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>The Hulk moved a lot better in the first movie than in this
>one in my opinion. First movie showed that the Hulk was
>limitless in bounding all over the southwest of the United
>States. This Hulk on the other hand was more confined to his
>immediate environments, but went Ultimate Destruction in a
>scene or two (making weapons), but still didn't show the full
>capability of the Hulk. Seemed like they wanted to power him
>down a little. Oh well.


he fled brasil and woke up in guatemala

they just didn't do it as much
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180. "they were more subtle"
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when they hit him with the sonic weapons, and betty tried to stop them e said "you're just making him angry...stop" and next thing you know he grunts and busts the weapons apart.

when he was getting choked out by abomination, and he said to him "you dont deserve this power" he got even ore pissed and over powered blonski, and beat him bloody

than when he was choking him out with the chain he wetn completly ape shit after blonsky almost killed betty. you see the last "hulk-out" we would have ripped blonksi head off is not for betty screaming. he was gone dude.

his power was definitly there, they just never said the words "the madder hulk gets,the stronger hulk gets...'

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168. "Didn't suck!"
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You could tell that the primary objective of this movie was not to turn out like the last one, and for the most part I think that strategy served them well. This Hulk was leaner and meaner - Seemed like there wasn't a single scene that didn't serve the purpose of Banner Hulking out. Under normal circumstances that would be a bad thing, but I was there a few years ago. I remember what happens when Hulk films try and get ambitious.

And don't get me wrong - it was nice to not be bogged down with daddy issues and love stories, but the movie could have maybe used a *little* more humanity.

One thing that truly impressed me about the script: Everyone who felt disappointed in the last flick is gonna walk into that theater thinking "There better be some damn Hulk in this one" ... But the first 20 minutes they keep sticking Banner in situations where you're holding your breath just PRAYING he doesn't Hulk out. Very suspenseful and clever. Everything leading up to the first transformation was basically perfection.

Effects wise I thought it improved over the last one. Couple shaky spots but nothing to take me out of the movie.The cave scene where Betty is sitting there next to Hulk, they really seemed to be existing in the same dimensions - Then again that could have as much to do with Liv's flatness as it does with Hulk's realness.

Seriously, what was wrong with that chick? Seemed like she had one facial expression the whole movie and her only line was whispering "Bruce...!?" She's supposed to be a scientist right? When she asks Bruce if the government can trace her lip gloss, I got the impression that she was only half joking. I miss Connely.

Equally lifeless onscreen was T-Bolt Dogg Ross. That's another one the last movie did better. Hurt was just stumbling around his scenes like he was still waiting for someone to yell "Action!"

Norton did his thing though. A damn good Bruce Banner. Um, what are the chances of him showing up as Bruce Banner ever again though? Roth was good. Wasn't given a whole lot to work with, but he fleshed it out.

The Mr. Blue scene brought some needed levity to the proceedings though it was kind of a jarring tonal shift fairly late in the game. So I'm not sure how I feel about it just yet.

The final fight wasn't great, but it was good. A little video gamey, and it maybe didn't get as big as it could have. I mean we're talking about 2 big ass monsters fighting in New York City, that shit should have melted my face off. Hulk leaving Abomination laying there made no sense at all. I see I'm not the only one who thought so.

I thought the ending with Banner seemingly willing himself into Hulk mode was pretty damn great. I mean, Hulk's a pretty limited premise on its base level so I think having the beast evolve is probably a good idea in the long run. He's tried getting rid of it, now he's going to try to control it. There's sequel potential in there.

Finally - the Tony Stark scene. You know... I'd have actually preferred this trailing after the credits. Because when it's after the credits, it's a TEASE. When it's before the credits, it's a SCENE. I dislike this for 2 reasons. One, it's like getting my dessert served to me on the same plate as my supper. I don't want my peach cobbler touching my chicken and dumplings, you know? And two, I feel like the more they hype this Avengers movie, the more it's doomed not to happen. It wasn't a bad scene though.

In short: Better than expected, Marvel Studios is now 2 for 2.

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171. "*two thumbs up*(spoilers?)"
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not really a fan of the ang lee version
not sure what did not work for me
but i was not vehement about it
like say hellboy(ew patooey)



what worked for me
-nods to past actors bill bixby and lou(yeah they had lou in the last but they gave him a pizza!...)
-gamma gamma gamma
-the green eye thing
-the walking in rain thumb out thing
-the romance did work...dunno why...
-i actually had sympathy for bruce this time
-brasil as a staging area fantastic
-CGI hulk was realistic for me there were complaints last time and i wasn;t sure what the problem was but i saw it this time is size in comparison, the working of the muscles, the face(votes still out on that) but i was empathetic with this version of the face
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-setting the stage for more to follow which seems like a double with mentioning RDJ, but Leader has been introduced


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178. "Norton's complaints are valid, but I had a very good time."
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It was short on character, so I wasn't connected to the main characters that much. Shit, I connected to Tim Blake Nelson and Tim Roth more than Ed Norton.

But the main action scenes were dope. I yelled "oh shit" a few times in the theatre.

The creation of the Leader was FUCKING AWESOME. That shit had me jonesing for a sequel (that won't happen).

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181. "Avengers movie NEED Hulk as the villain (spoiler?)"
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that smirk at the end, bruce wasn't getting control over himself, he was getting to the point where he can hulk at will

if the did the avengers v Hulk...

they could pull in some of the civil war/world war hulk stuff

this woudl definitly work

have Hulk beat blood ut of each of the members individually until they come together and try to subdue him
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182. "Word."
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Notice Stark (and SHIELD) weren't tracking down Banner, but Ross and his access to the "Super Soldier" program.

  

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184. "but sheild took notice"
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when tony said "you seem to have a problem on your hands"

he knows banner is a problem, after watching him nearly kill blonski becasue he was "pissed"


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187. "I don't think Hulking out on will is necessarily smirk-worthy"
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Because up to that point Hulking out was some shit Banner *didn't* want to happen

I took the smirk to mean he was in control of the situation, and was starting to gain control over the Hulk. Not 100% control, because that wouldn't be as interesting to watch, but that's what he was striving for.

Which could put the character in an interesting place for the Avengers movie that won't ever actually happen. I don't think you can make Hulk the villain of the film. But you can make him sort of a loose cannon "hero" who could lose his temper and turn on you at any given moment.

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190. "Agree"
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"I don't think you can make Hulk the villain of the film. But you can make him sort of a loose cannon "hero" who could lose his temper and turn on you at any given moment."

If anything, you have an early fight with The Avengers before something else happens that has the Hulk siding with them and saving their asses.
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191. "that's exactly how the 1st avengers issue was in the comics"
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193. "Yeah I know but I'm not saying they have to stick to Avengers #1"
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I don't really want the Hulk being an official member. Nor do I want to see Loki being the Villain as he was in that issue. I'm cool with them tweaking some of the details to make it work on the big screen. I mean we are already outside that story line since Tony Stark is talking about building a team. In the comic, they don't get that idea until after they defeat Loki. Since the movie universe isn't staying 100% faithful to the comic, I hope they switch the founding members up a little. I don't want to have to wait for a sequel to see the Vision and Black Panther.
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199. "I think you could"
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the WWH situation illustrated that. You wouldn't have to remake WWH, but the template is valid. The PTB get together to do some shit 'for the the greater good' they make a mistake (or some shit is misinterpreted) and now Hulk is out for vengence, but this time Banner is in better control (character developement) and the hulk is actually sentient.

He beats the shit outta the avengers individualy, or in small teams until at the last battle they come together to put him down.

basic 3 act script.

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192. "OH GOD NO!!!!!!"
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let's hope the movie act as if civil war and esp world war hulk NEVER happened. better ideas please.

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196. "i just want to see hulk beat stark out of his suit"
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and throw him through stark tower


they can have the rest (crack the planet..word....cracking the planet....)

but definitely beating toney stark bloody is a must

  

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183. "RE: The Incredible Hulk"
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So they are going to replace Norton for any future movies?

They kinda have to after their falling out.

But that sucks, changing the actor hurts bad.

  

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188. "Did Norton really bring anything to the role another act couldn't"
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>So they are going to replace Norton for any future movies?
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>They kinda have to after their falling out.
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>But that sucks, changing the actor hurts bad.

I dont know if he'd return for a sequel or not but I didn't miss Bana in this one & even tho I'm a fan of Norton I dont think I'd miss him if another actor took over. Neither of them really stood out imo.

  

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186. "Lots better than that first one"
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189. "RE: The Incredible Hulk"
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I liked the film. It was pretty straightforward, which is what I think the franchise needed. It was cool. I liked the subtle nods to Bill Bixby and the TV show, and I loved the bit of the theme song that was played. Good stuff, in my opinion.

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194. "Did anyone peep Omar coming out of the Apollo..."
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In the scene in Harlem...funny.

Awesome movie. Marvel is definitely on a hot streak. It was definitely a great idea for them to take creative control over their films. Can't wait until the Avengers movie

  

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208. "Yup!"
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I was like WTF?

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195. "peeped it last night, liked it a lot"
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quick comments:

liv was looking better than jennifer, but would have been nice to see her actually DO something as a doctor

he didn't JUMP like he did in the first one

i liked the look of the hulk in the first one better

i liked the first one a lot, but this one was enjoyable as well. they each have a bit of a different feel and while not a sequel because the origin was different, I think it was still good to have the 2003 hulk because you want more than an opening credits as explanation for how he gets down.


some of you CGI critics are too much for me, i think it was hilarious how you're breaking it down by megapixels and no one mentioned that he wasn't jumping as high as he was in the first one.

  

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197. "wayyy better than the 1st. the hulk was one of those heroes that"
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doesn't intrigue me on film...kinda like F4....however....this movie was pretty damn good.

fuck all the bullshit, i gotta eat my words.

that 1st one was zzzzzzzzzzzzzz...but this one? damn good

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201. "gtfo @ that plea coppin AICN quoting TV commercial"
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"just as good as iron man"

this hulk was dope, but come onnnnn! that's almost "please watch this movie, too!" or "my music sounds like ____, add me to your myspace"

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202. "it was way better than i thought it was..."
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i hope Cpt. A and Thor dont dissapoint.

  

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204. "I liked it"
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Impressed, even.

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206. "Fucking great!"
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Better than the first one, and just as good as Iron Man. Yep, that's right. No knock on Iron Man intended, I loved them both.

Marvel movies are the shit right now. I am a little skeptical about Capt. America, but I am HYPED for the Avengers, when/if it ever happens.

  

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210. "The Incredible Hulk was fantastic."
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I like that the reboot used the popular mythos instead of sticking to the real origin story. Norton rocked as Banner. He did the part justice.

I wanted to see The Leader turn green.
Will watch again.

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212. "where was the doc samson cameo? i missed it"
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214. "Doc Samson was the boyfriend of Betty Ross in the movie"
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215. "Saw the movie this Sunday; enjoyed the hell out of it. Well done."
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And much, much better then Ang Lee's version.

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216. "RE: Saw the movie this Sunday; enjoyed the hell out of it. Well done."
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>And much, much better then Ang Lee's version.

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217. "the movie was dope..."
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BUT, just like the first movie, i really didn't give a fuck til the HULK showed up, the storyline of him tyin to cure himself was TRULY boring till Sterns shows up....and ALL the Hulk fights were dope, he was bout to choke ole bot OUT....

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218. "Good. Not great. Moves us towards the Avengers movie nicely too."
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I enjoyed it. It didn't leave me giggling like a schoolgirl the way Iron Man or Batman Begins did, but it was overall solid and free from most of the corniness that seems inherit in a lot of comic adaptations (Hulk Smash aside).

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220. "RE: roaaaaaarggggghh"
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Not spectacular(action scenes and sound are good) but solid tho. Can't really say much either you love it or hate it. Better than last years Transformers. The story just does not have a broad appeal like the Dark Knight or Spiderman. Solid entertainment but Hulk won't gain any new fans.
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