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"The Gigli Post"


          

you all thought reloaded was the movie event of the year.

i have literally been waiting months for this one to come out.

i wanna see it burn.

literally.

i want the reels to combust in protest before they can be played for audiences. and the paying audience can follow suit.

i wanna see j.lo and affleck break up.

I WANT REDEMPTION.

so if you happen to see the movie, or if you wanna protect yourself and say your friend saw it, post under here.

anything you have to say on the film, let's put it here.

i'm gonna post reviews under here from critics as well.

why?

in the sake of comedy, consolidation, and karma, cause i had to listen to that jenny from the block song one too many times.

and because i can . . .

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
film freak central
Jul 30th 2003
1
first time i've been proud of fox news
Jul 30th 2003
2
Funny, but Pacino is off-limits assholes.
Jul 31st 2003
75
I thought you wanted to be my bitch
Aug 02nd 2003
150
the onion-gotta love it
Jul 30th 2003
3
KBTV-NBC:finally a little critic doesn't hype up crap
Jul 30th 2003
4
Compuserve?-another one bites the dust
Jul 30th 2003
5
Ain't It Cool-Guess not.
Jul 30th 2003
6
Bad Asses
Jul 30th 2003
7
lives up to the hype again
Jul 30th 2003
8
LOL
Jul 30th 2003
9
hell yeah
Jul 30th 2003
11
some good will come of it
Jul 30th 2003
10
They have some nerve thinking this:
Jul 30th 2003
20
What?
Jul 30th 2003
26
      RE: What?
Jul 31st 2003
73
           RE: What?
Aug 01st 2003
147
not just one guy's opinion
Jul 30th 2003
12
movie navigator: danger! danger film goer!
Jul 30th 2003
13
C-?
Jul 30th 2003
28
      rottentomatoes.com does the num/4
Jul 30th 2003
30
           HA!HA!
Aug 04th 2003
176
worst film ever?
Jul 30th 2003
14
This post is transcendent comedy
Jul 30th 2003
15
thanks
Jul 30th 2003
16
i'll be there opening day
Jul 30th 2003
17
i, rather we, expect a review
Jul 30th 2003
18
YESSSSSSSS I LOVE IT!!!
Jul 30th 2003
19
This may sqaush B-Lo's hopes of the Casablanca remake
Jul 30th 2003
21
Casablanca remake??????
Jul 30th 2003
22
stanford is in palo alto. smart kids.
Jul 30th 2003
23
salon.com: only a minor failure . . . WHAT??!?!?
Jul 30th 2003
24
killer movie reviews: culprits abound
Jul 30th 2003
25
Archive this post
Jul 30th 2003
27
the onion again. different piece. same result.
Jul 30th 2003
29
check the number on the web address
Jul 31st 2003
34
up
Jul 30th 2003
31
l.a. how weakly
Jul 31st 2003
32
critic doctor can't help this one
Jul 31st 2003
33
sick boy doesn't even like it
Jul 31st 2003
35
feel bad for the multi-millionaires . . .
Jul 31st 2003
36
reel bad publicity
Jul 31st 2003
37
RE: reel bad publicity
Aug 01st 2003
76
spliced wire:short circuit
Jul 31st 2003
38
they like bonecrusher, but they're not that dumb.
Jul 31st 2003
39
when cleveland starts making fun . . .
Jul 31st 2003
40
newsflash:j.lo/affleck unconvincing. wha?
Jul 31st 2003
41
I'm downloading it
Jul 31st 2003
42
kinda like what jerry said on seinfeld
Jul 31st 2003
59
      I'm having difficutly downloading it
Aug 01st 2003
139
           thanks
Aug 01st 2003
140
                I tried
Aug 04th 2003
182
Four Stars!!!!! Sike. LOL
Jul 31st 2003
43
all these reviews look the same, just different fonts
Jul 31st 2003
44
cnn:really,really bad. finally they're not so dramatic
Jul 31st 2003
45
from minneapolis-still cold
Jul 31st 2003
46
enter semi-clever quip here. still sucks.
Jul 31st 2003
47
RE: enter semi-clever quip here. still sucks.
Jul 31st 2003
65
who the hell is eric d. snider? he's right.
Jul 31st 2003
48
the bay area even thinks it's gay
Jul 31st 2003
49
everyone is a critic, but no less accurate
Jul 31st 2003
50
even st.paul has an opinion:it sucks
Jul 31st 2003
51
detroit: even the tigers aren't this bad
Jul 31st 2003
52
when san jose says it's bad . . .
Jul 31st 2003
53
EDIT
Jul 31st 2003
54
j.lo finally does something miami doesn't like
Jul 31st 2003
55
say what you will about christian science, but . . .
Jul 31st 2003
56
my head hurts. no joke. that's all.
Jul 31st 2003
57
philly: put on some knee socks and call it keith
Jul 31st 2003
58
l.a. weekly: same shit new stall
Jul 31st 2003
60
dixie chicks have a reason to be proud of texas
Jul 31st 2003
61
ny times: credibility restored
Jul 31st 2003
62
now, listen to your mother. lol
Jul 31st 2003
63
by the time it got to arizona
Jul 31st 2003
64
LMAO Ricky is having a BALL!!!
Jul 31st 2003
66
yeah, i am
Jul 31st 2003
71
so if you live in milwuakee it can get worse
Jul 31st 2003
67
who better to recognize trash than a hollywood reporter
Jul 31st 2003
68
didn't the tv guide even like dharma and greg?
Jul 31st 2003
69
lol. kalamazoo gazette getting shots in
Jul 31st 2003
70
usa today: fluff newspaper knows its kind
Jul 31st 2003
72
rotten tomatoes O% fresh
Jul 31st 2003
74
Somewhere, P. Diddy's Laughing his ass off
Aug 01st 2003
77
LMAO how about that?
Aug 01st 2003
107
and somewhere, Halle Berry is saying...
Aug 02nd 2003
159
      and somewhere, someone is renting
Aug 02nd 2003
162
OFFICIAL:ebert is getting soft
Aug 01st 2003
78
Apparently
Aug 04th 2003
179
2 maybe, but 2.5 no.
Aug 04th 2003
185
my local critic strikes again
Aug 01st 2003
79
i feel bad for ben
Aug 01st 2003
80
don't
Aug 01st 2003
108
we found the wmd, says texan
Aug 01st 2003
81
who needs a star rating when you got 'total crap'
Aug 01st 2003
82
the titanic didn't sink this quick
Aug 01st 2003
83
the website has no credibilty, the film even less
Aug 01st 2003
84
monica didn't go down this fast
Aug 01st 2003
85
hungry anteaters at a picnic don't suck this much
Aug 01st 2003
86
bet.com: maybe if r.kelly sang the title song
Aug 01st 2003
87
washington post: chemistry can't right what is left
Aug 01st 2003
88
cranky critic gets his dream film
Aug 01st 2003
89
edit: pulled another gigli
Aug 01st 2003
90
the hartford courant. yup, that's what i said.
Aug 01st 2003
91
baltimore:worse than oriole pre-season games?
Aug 01st 2003
92
denver:nosebleed from the elevation or the film?
Aug 01st 2003
93
spitting out the starbucks
Aug 01st 2003
94
you would think in l.a. bad films are daily news
Aug 01st 2003
95
and these people greenlit the anna nicole show
Aug 01st 2003
96
um. . . um . . .a hoover cleaner doesn't-well, you know
Aug 01st 2003
97
3 stars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Aug 01st 2003
98
Ben's Mom wrote that one
Aug 01st 2003
109
      no, the retarded kid from the movie did
Aug 01st 2003
118
pittsburgh tribune:steel this movie
Aug 01st 2003
99
even crystal lake illinois doesn't like it
Aug 01st 2003
100
gotta trust the mormons
Aug 01st 2003
101
here's a first: a woman has an opinion
Aug 01st 2003
102
denton texas has a movie reviewer?
Aug 01st 2003
103
if these reels could talk . . .
Aug 01st 2003
104
edit:*review from gigli t.v. commercial*
Aug 01st 2003
105
edit:pop matters. shit happens. see gigli.
Aug 01st 2003
106
so whats the over under
Aug 01st 2003
110
i think the odds are
Aug 01st 2003
116
on rottentomatoes.com, SPLAT SPLAT SPLAT SPLAT...
Aug 01st 2003
111
premier magazine: razzie buzz
Aug 01st 2003
112
if you haven't begun to understand . . .
Aug 01st 2003
113
gigli or why the world hates america
Aug 01st 2003
114
i hope the right people get fired over this
Aug 01st 2003
115
rolling stone:a mag. past its prime can smell dead meat
Aug 01st 2003
117
gigli is secret code for ass wash
Aug 01st 2003
119
boston globe: hometown boy does wrong
Aug 01st 2003
120
the second good review
Aug 01st 2003
121
even really white guys can't stand affleck in this
Aug 01st 2003
122
EMBARASSING! she probably wrote the script
Aug 01st 2003
123
ny post: page six six six
Aug 01st 2003
124
tramps likes us . . .
Aug 01st 2003
125
what's there to do in oregon? not watch gigli
Aug 01st 2003
126
the orlando sentinel: praying for a hurricane
Aug 01st 2003
127
like spit up geno's cheesesteaks
Aug 01st 2003
128
this is wearing on me . . .
Aug 01st 2003
129
sars: toronto as gigli: everyone
Aug 01st 2003
130
every firing squad needs a witness
Aug 01st 2003
131
You get the "gobble gobble" line story from The Sun?
Aug 01st 2003
132
Roger Ebert kinda liked it...
Aug 01st 2003
133
yeah i know. i was disappointed.
Aug 01st 2003
134
He gave thumbs up to Maid in Manhattan also
Aug 01st 2003
143
He was tryna be different
Aug 01st 2003
137
I gave it 2 stars
Aug 01st 2003
145
      you saw it?
Aug 02nd 2003
152
           most of the reviews are too harsh
Aug 02nd 2003
163
lol this got RAILED in the sf chronicle today
Aug 01st 2003
135
YOU AIN'T NEEEEVER LIED! LMAO
Aug 01st 2003
138
see post #131
Aug 01st 2003
141
this is one of the best review posts ever
Aug 01st 2003
136
the worst brings out the best in me
Aug 01st 2003
142
no doubt
Aug 01st 2003
146
      actually, we'll see
Aug 02nd 2003
153
this is rediculous. ARCHIVE!
Aug 01st 2003
144
umm
Aug 01st 2003
148
proves the naxim
Aug 02nd 2003
149
RE: umm
Aug 02nd 2003
151
riiiiiight
Aug 02nd 2003
154
u must not have heard the news......
Aug 02nd 2003
161
U KNOW U TRYING 2 C DA HIPS!
Aug 02nd 2003
164
but why does this fool have autism AND tourettes syndro
Aug 02nd 2003
165
RE: umm
Aug 04th 2003
180
u.s. catholic bishops speak up
Aug 02nd 2003
155
teen h'llywood:corrupting the youth one child at a time
Aug 02nd 2003
156
so in the end . . .
Aug 02nd 2003
157
caught the 4.50 matinee.....
Aug 02nd 2003
166
im going regardless
Aug 02nd 2003
158
Washington Post review
Aug 02nd 2003
160
Wash Post has no balls
Aug 02nd 2003
167
      RE: Wash Post has no balls
Aug 02nd 2003
168
personally what disappointed me
Aug 03rd 2003
169
but he was retarded
Aug 03rd 2003
170
      2 more comments
Aug 03rd 2003
173
box-office results
Aug 03rd 2003
171
budget
Aug 04th 2003
177
RE: Official number
Aug 03rd 2003
172
Budgeted at 55 million
Aug 03rd 2003
174
where did all that money go?
Aug 04th 2003
184
It sucked.
Aug 04th 2003
175
How cheesy is it
Aug 04th 2003
178
You have been vindicated.
Aug 04th 2003
181
where did the $54 million dollars go?
Aug 04th 2003
183
      down the drain
Aug 04th 2003
186
affleck admits the film sucks
Aug 05th 2003
187

ricky_BUTLER
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http://filmfreakcentral.net/screenreviews/gigli.htm

GIGLI (2003)
* (out of four)

While it doesn't live up to its hype as the worst film ever made, Martin Brest's Gigli, with its creepy contention that Ben Affleck is the cure for lesbianism, certainly makes a run for the most unintentionally hilarious film ever made. Its first mistake is in giving not one, but two charisma vortexes the leading roles, the sucking black hole this creates at the film's centre thrown into sharp relief whenever a real actor (Christopher Walken, Al Pacino) makes a cameo appearance. The most surprising thing about Gigli isn't the failed casting gambit or the gruesomely over-written dialogue (this isn't anyone's first film, after all), however, but rather the idea that Jennifer Lopez would authorize the reduction of her famously outsized posterior on the posters--abandoning (after mocking it in Maid in Manhattan--which, as it happens, was written by Brest's Meet Joe Black scribe Kevin Wade) what is arguably the only thing so far about Lopez that hasn't proven to be facile and over-hyped.

At the risk of sounding facetious, Lopez's glutes are the starlet/diva's one true thing: inevitably the locus of every scene, relegated now to Lopez's own status of in-joke in decline. But her ass was never funny to me--it was until now the equivalent of Marilyn Monroe's beauty mark: impossible to overlook, a statement of identity and individuality (one that, for Lopez, proudly encompasses and subverts a stereotype of her race and nationality), and an arguable imperfection paraded proud before the eyes of the ruling class that actually opens doors for other non-traditional beauties. When Gigli's mentally challenged character (I should clarify: the one written as mentally challenged) breaks into a Rain Man rendition of Sir Mix-A-Lot's "Baby Got Back," the last thing that was unique, even valuable, about the increasingly difficult-to-stomach Lopez is suddenly a smarmy, winking, gag that serves to illustrate exactly how far Lopez will go to distance herself from "the block."

The question of Lopez's marginalized mud flaps aside, the central character of Gigli is Larry Gigli (Affleck), a wimp of a mob-contract enforcer enlisted in the kidnapping of a Federal Prosecutor's brain-damaged little brother Brian (Justin Bartha, who's good here, but at what?). Not trusting the schlep to act on his own (so why trust him at all?), consigliere Louis (Lenny Venito, arguably the best thing about this mess) sends Sapphic hit-person Ricki (Lopez) to watch Gigli watching Brian. Already tangled beyond resolution, Brest thickens the plot with a few Sun Tzu quotes (notes for Brest's future reference: don't ask Brad Pitt to say "Machiavellian machinations," and don't ask Lopez to quote Sun Tzu), a few top-heavy debates on the merits of penises vs. vaginas, and a five-minute walk-on from Christopher Walken that represents the only moment in the picture with the kind of quirky, intelligent heat to which Brest so nakedly aspires. By the end, it can't come as any surprise that the antagonistic Gigli and Ricki end up rolling in the hay; that Ricki, by extension, has been shown the error of her lesbian ways (and why not--the only other lesbian in the picture is a psychopath); and that lovable gimp Brian has ingratiated himself into the hearts of our hardened criminals. It's a dysfunctional family, damnit, but it's ours.

With a score that marries perversely jaunty organs with the kind of guitar work Clapton did on Roger Waters' "The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking" (ethereal, eerie, inappropriate), the picture smacks of desperation and pretension. It rips off the "word a day gangster" conceit from Kangaroo Jack, of all things, and doesn't offer dialogues so much as a death march of awkward monologues. The pair of Affleck and Lopez equally not up to the task, it is she who takes the brunt of the abuse with a much-publicized turkey/oral sex come-on ("you know, gobble gobble") and an extended drone about something called "Cheng Woi Mai," or, "the rip that takes the past"--a fictional martial arts move that obliterates the visual cortex, thus stealing all memory of what's been seen. It's just one of many moments that are uncomfortably self-reflexive--by this point in the film, a little Cheng Woi Mai is just what the doctor ordered. Not helping things is Lopez's inexplicably worsening Betsy-Wetsy lisp that transforms a line like "brutal street thug" into "bruel threet fug."

With a weird sentimental payoff and unlikely epilogue tacked on after a disastrous test screening (it wouldn't have made a difference where the film ended, the problem is with the film starting), credit is due Brest for remaining at the least committed to his voice no matter the cost. His pictures always non-traditional (even Beverly Hills Cop is surprisingly stately in its development and resolution), Brest is at his best in presenting the broad, the theatrical, even the melancholy through his word jumble (Walken can say "absconded" without irony; Lopez can't even read in the film without moving her lips), and at his worst when trying to justify surprise moments of spontaneous lovemaking and unlikely romance (see also: Meet Joe Black).

Brest's major failing, though, now and always, is not in that rare quality of being true to himself and his vision, for better or worse, but by having too much confidence in his ability to mold the shallow end of the A-list to his difficult vision. It's doubtful to me that, say, Terrence Malick would trust baggage-laden duo Affleck and Lopez to anchor his next picture--leave that tragic miscalculation to Kevin Smith. It's telling that Brest's best film, Midnight Run, also boasts of Brest's most consistent cast (Charles Grodin and Robert De Niro), with no Chris O'Donnells to offset the Al Pacinos, or zombie Pitts and Claire Forlanis skewing the tally against Anthony Hopkins. The question of whether Gigli would have been not just a better film but a good film with actors actually trained as actors is a fair one--the real meat to the hypothetical question (probably a rhetorical hypothetical, really) lies in the fact of its asking. The film has potential (a scene where Brian celebrates his proximity to a personal nirvana, for example, carries surprising pathos), and for all of its plot conveniences and bad editing, Gigli attracts (justifiable) venom mostly for its cast: the mortal blunder of believing that either Affleck or Lopez has Brest's confidence and courage to look foolish, and the nobility to fail with principle.-Walter Chaw

  

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ricky_BUTLER
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2. "first time i've been proud of fox news"
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,93150,00.html

Review: Ben and J-Lo's 'Gigli': It's Turkey Time, Gobble, Gobble

It's not so easy to make a great howler of a bad movie. In recent years, Madonna 's made more than her share: "Shanghai Surprise," "Swept Away," "Who's That Girl," among them.

In 2001, Mariah Carey starred in "Glitter," which has only aged badly since its laughable premiere. And then there's "Showgirls," "Striptease," "The Postman," "Waterworld," "Ishtar," and the perceived king of kings, "Heaven's Gate."

Now add to the very top of the list, "Gigli" — directed by Martin Brest, who actually has another title on the list already: "Meet Joe Black."

Witless, coarse, and vulgar, "Gigli" is worse than its advance buzz could have indicated. Starring real-life tabloid lovers Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez, the film — if you can call it that — is a total, mindless disaster. Sitting in a screening last night with reviewers and feature writers, I could only think of one word: stupefying.

As many who were there muttered on the way out: "What were they thinking?"

First, the acting: Lopez and Affleck may have chemistry at home, but they have none here. Affleck comes off the worst. As hitman Larry Gigli, Affleck seems to be doing a bad imitation of James Gandolfini as Tony Soprano.

A thuggish Brooklyn-esque accent comes and goes, and Affleck never figures out whether he's a good guy or a bad guy. While these gears are turning in his head, you can't help notice that he's a hitman wearing a luxurious Gucci leather jacket and gorgeous silk tops. He also appears to be wearing Ted Danson's toupee from "Cheers."

J-Lo does a little better, but not much as a lesbian hitwoman who is nonetheless smitten with Affleck. She makes her first appearance wearing a midriff-revealing halter-top to show off her abs and rear end, and it just keeps getting better.

At one point Lopez is featured in a yoga position called "the crow," which is photographed as if she were a kangaroo hoisted on its hind legs and ready for mating. As I once heard Anna Wintour say of Clint Eastwood with matted hair in a rainstorm scene, "It's not a good look for you."

Like Ben, who actually says the word "heart-throb-a-rama," J-Lo is saddled with ridiculous, offensive, unfortunate dialogue, much of which can't be quoted in proper publications.

Herewith some of her declarations: "It's turkey time. Gobble, gobble." "A penis is like a sea slug or a long toe." "I thought you wanted to be my bitch."

There's a fourth line, but it can't be repeated here, concerning her offer to perform a sex act on Affleck for 12 hours. Another character, doing an unintentional Joe Pesci imitation from "Goodfellas," later describes Lopez's lesbian with a term that should have women's groups on both sides demanding a recall vote on the screenwriter.

Trust me, the dialogue in "Gigli" is so awful that the groans just come faster and faster. It is also unnecessarily vulgar. I counted the "f-word" no fewer than 15 times in the first 10 minutes and then lost track.

Lopez also makes a long speech to Affleck in which she draws analogies between her female anatomy and one's mouth, ending in a particular vulgarity that sent at least two New York Times writers right out of the theatre.

There are other actors in the film. Sadly, newcomer Justin Bartha , who plays a "Rain Man"-like autistic character stolen directly from that movie — but without the manual — makes a very bad first impression.

Will he turn out to be a "thumbless, bleeding halfwit," as Lopez's character posits? It's hard to say since Bartha, not getting any direction from Brest, slips from autism to Tourette's Syndrome to ADD to simply being annoying.

But the "Rain Man" lifts are painful to watch. Instead of being obsessed with "Wapner," for example, this character only wants to see "Baywatch." Again, what could Brest, who wrote and directed this junk, have been thinking?

Al Pacino, whom Brest directed to an Oscar in the very bad "Scent of a Woman" 11 years ago, appears in one interminable scene as a New York crime boss. This one bloated moment may completely unravel Pacino's esteemed career from "The Godfather" to "Insomnia."

His expressionless, frozen face — though included in the film's trailer as a big deal — appears about three-fourths of the way through the film. It's not clear even if Affleck and Lopez, who Brest cuts to occasionally for stupefied reactions, were even on the set when Pacino delivers his numbing monologue. The fact that it ends in his character committing a sudden act of bloody violence doesn't help.

The only performance worth seeing in "Gigli" (which rhymes, Affleck says often, with "really") is another cameo, this one by Christopher Walken as a police detective. When Walken steps into the film, "Gigli" suddenly becomes full of color and oxygen — two things that Lopez and Affleck lack.

Unfortunately, Walken's scene is meant to explain the plot. But it's pretty clear that the actor has no idea what he's saying; he just says it so wonderfully that it doesn't matter. Watch the pause he takes at the end of the scene. It's a brilliant comment on the nonsense set before him.

  

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150. "I thought you wanted to be my bitch"
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damn....that almost made me change my sig


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gigli focus groups demand new ending in which both affleck and lopez die

http://www.theonion.com/onion3929/gigli_focus_groups.html

HOLLYWOOD, CA—Focus groups at advance screenings for Gigli, a romantic comedy starring Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez set to open nationwide July 30, have demanded a new ending in which both stars die "in as brutal a manner as possible," sources at Sony Pictures said Tuesday.


"The movie is pretty good, I guess," read one comment card from a test-screening audience in Culver City, CA. "I liked the Al Pacino character, but I had a hard time buying Jennifer Lopez as a lesbian. I also really, really wanted Larry and Ricki to die, to get shot or blown up or run over by something. I would prefer to see the blood and the looks on their faces."

On Monday, 3,000 people in markets as varied as Dallas, Chicago, Albany, Atlanta, and Seattle screened Gigli, a gangster-themed romantic comedy written and directed by Martin Brest, in which lowly thug Affleck lets his love for hitwoman Lopez get in the way of a high-risk mob assignment. Of those viewers, 2,965 "strongly agreed" that the ending should be changed to include a graphic scene in which its main characters die.

"Many participants wrote 'shot to death' in the space provided for comments, probably thinking that it fit in with the gangster characters' stated realities," Columbia Pictures director of marketing Peter Zitterman said. "Some comments showed a lot of careful thought, such as 'point blank through head from right side,' 'both at once with single shot from elephant gun,' and 'several hundred times, with multiple camera angles showing their bodies jerking as they're shredded with a heavy hosing of lead, spraying the lens with gobbets of meat and bone and blood, with the sheer number of fist-sized exit wounds obviously precluding any sequel.' And shootings weren't the only ideas suggested, believe me."

According to the exit cards, other popular methods of achieving Lopez and Affleck's on-screen demise included car bombs, multiple stab wounds, acid baths, rabid wolf attacks, lightning strikes, and, in one case, a "hammer party."

"We never expected this kind of reaction," Zitterman said. "We've had odd results from focus groups before, but I don't recall an audience ever agreeing on such a sweeping change. If only we had done this survey in pre-production."

Although the various test audiences differed on the preferred methods of death, they seemed unanimous on one point.

"We were very surprised at how many viewers thought that, no matter what, Affleck and Lopez should not be entwined in a romantic embrace at the time of their deaths," Zitterman said. "Everyone was perfectly clear on that."

Although Brest said he is satisfied with the final cut of Gigli, he briefly considered incorporating some of the test audience's ideas into the film.

"The danger here is succumbing to what people in the business call 'option paralysis'—being caught with so many good ideas that you're not sure which one to use," Brest said. "Getting shot is fine, but what about an automobile fire in which Ben and Jennifer are shown perishing in a slow-motion montage, their newfound love discarded as they try desperately to claw their way past each other's melting bodies, while slowly roasting to death in their own fat? You'd be surprised at how many people came up with that one. Or having them crawl through a field of broken glass while a safely booted and gloved Christopher Walken casually advances on them with a spray bottle of acid and a pair of bolt-cutters? I must say, a part of me loves the idea of them chewing each other to death during a 14-minute dolly shot."

Added Brest: "Believe me, after the singular experience of working with these two for several months, it would be a joy to get back together just to make these changes."

Even if time were not prohibitive, Columbia executives remained skeptical about the validity of the focus-group results.

"I find it hard to believe that audiences would harbor hostility toward such major media figures as J. Lo and Ben," Zitterman said. "With her magazine covers, clothing and perfume lines, and constant radio presence; his roles in Daredevil and Project Greenlight; and their recent joint appearances on Dateline NBC and numerous entertainment shows, how could anyone wish for anything but a resolution that unites these two attractive, highly visible celebrities?"

Insiders confirm that time constraints will prevent the much-requested death-scene additions to Gigli, which already underwent several days of fine-tuning when earlier focus groups noted a lack of romantic chemistry from the real-life couple. In light of the results, however, director Kevin Smith has said he will consider adding a gruesome double homicide to his Affleck-Lopez comedy Jersey Girl, due in theaters next year.

  

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Gigli: D

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/click/source-1016/reviews.php?cats=&letter=g&sortby=movie&page=1&rid=1179470

The Story: A hit man named Gigli (Affleck) and a hit woman (Lopez) are assigned to kidnap and baby-sit the mentally challenged brother (Bartha) of a powerful district attorney.

The Good: Not much is good about this film, but Jennifer, I must admit turns in a very sexy performance. Her dialogue is horribly written, but she looks so good while saying it. Al Pacino does make a pretty good cameo that is fun to watch but is overshadowed by the awkwardness of the bad scene.

The Bad: This is the kind of film you make before you are famous, not after. This definitely goes in the “what were you thinking?” category. The writing is bad and the acting is worse. Ben’s film decisions need some rethinking, and he keeps going the way of the Stallone rather than the Willis. (Actually, Stallone did have a number one movie last week, as bad as it may have been, so maybe that was a poor example). All I am trying to say is that I was in pain for over two hours watching this piece of garbage.

The Summary: Gigli is so horrible I had to go cleanse my palate afterward by watching Glitter.

  

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Howlers abound but like Paul Verhoeven's 'Showgirls' the picture is never dull.

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ROTTEN (C-)

Press notes for "Gigli" have the usual disclaimer: "The
characters and incidents portrayed and the names herein are
fictitious and any similarity to the name, character or history of
any person is entirely coincidental and unintentional.

As with Paul Verhoeven's 1995 movie "Showgirls," the
statement has as much utility for those who have seen "Gigli" as
has the proverbial bicycle for a fish. And you can bet that Martin
Brest ("Meet Joe Black," "Scent of a Woman," "Beverly Hills
Cop") will insist as did Verhoeven eight years ago that he
means his film to be taken seriously and not as camp, parody or
anything but a literal take on how human beings can radically
change one another during a period of a few days in the City of
Angels. Brest is no stranger to implausibilities, as those who sat
through his 157-minute "Scnet of a Woman" can testify. Taking
off from what critic David Thomson states in his wonderful "The
New Biographical Dictionary of Film," "the suggestion that any
army would ever have made Al Pacino a colonel still seems to
me the greatest comic coup in the picture," anyone who can
view Pacino as a top-of-the-line gangster given the role of an
insane person who is tamed by J.Lo's monologue has a good
imagination.

As the director of the 1984 "Beverly Hills Cop," Brest is no
stranger to pictures about warped people who must learn to get
along. At least there was no doubt that comedy was the name
of the game given Eddie Murphy's role as a guy who always
with-it. The comedy and violent action could be accepted.
"Gigli," by contrast, does not click because neither Jennifer
Lopez nor Ben Affleck comes across as a match for Murphy's
comic style. By using them as a two people, strangers to each
other until a fateful meeting in a run-down section of town who
by steps reach out to each other, Brest is playing the romance
game whose principal maxim is "Keep the two people apart in a
state of sexual tension until they inevitably resolve their
differences at the conclusion." Fair enough. That's what we
expect, but however implausible their connection (she's a
lesbian and he is straight), we've given a buddy movie, a
gangster theme, a coming-of-age story, all executed in far less
time than was given to Brest's "Meet Joe Black." Perhaps such
a jumble of genres could click, but so many scenes are
outrageously unbelievable that the best the company can hope
for are unintentional laughs by the carload.

The story takes off when a punk hit-man, Louis (Lenny Venito)
gives his subordinate Larry Gigli (Ben Affleck) an assignment.
Kidnap Brian (Justin Bartha), the brain-damaged brother of a
federal prosecutor, and agree to release the teenager only if the
D.A. drops all charges against one Starkman (Al Pacino).
Because Louis has little faith in Gigli's competence, he assigns
another gangster, Ricki (Jennifer Lopez), to manipulate her way
into Gigli's apartment to watch over him while he in turn is
instructed to watch over her. During the course of their brief
relationship, the undereducated Gigli,no match for Ricki's
intelligence and charisma, is forced to reevaluate his life as a
small-timer with a pompadour who thinks the year is 1960.
When Louis orders Gigli to cut off the boy's thumb and mail it to
the prosecutor, both Gigli and his co-conspirator, Ricki, have
second thoughts about the job and about their chosen
profession third thoughts, we could add, once Ricki and Gigli
are introduced to a terrifying Starkman, who reads both Louis
and them the riot act as only Al Pacino can do.

Aside from cutting off more genres than he can chew in a
single, short film, Brest seals the fate of the story by a string of
situations so unbelievable that we can accept Austin Powers as
a legitimate, competent special agent before we can go along
with any of the myriad of jaw-dropping incredulousness in
"Gigli," to wit:

If Larry Gigli was ashamed of his name which no-one can
pronounce why not go by a different one? How is Gigli able to
walk the mentally challenged boy out of the institution without
anyone's checking his identity? Why do both Gigli and Ricki
assume that the boy will stay quietly in the bedroom while a
federal agent (Christopher Walken in the best few minutes of
the film) is in the living room questioning and intimidating Gigli
about the young man's whereabouts? When the deal with the
sawed-off thumb fails to convince the federal prosecutor that the
digit belongs to his brother, why does Starkman take out his
anger on Louis, who delivered the order correctly but had his
order ignored by Ricki and Gigli? Why do the crew and cast of
Baywatch, which the kid was so eager to see, allow the young
man on the set clothed in a leather jacket while everyone else
is in swim attire and accept him as just another dancer? Why
would lesbians in the audience accept the realization of a male
fantasy that if the right guy comes along, he can "cure" the
woman of her sexual desire for other women? Why do Ricki
and Gigli engage in their long-awaited first sexual encounter
fully clothed? How has the mentally challenged young man who
takes to Larry as a substitute dad become virtually articulate,
chucking his incoherent babbling by the conclusion of the story
after just a few days' interaction with Gigli?

Like "Showgirls," however, the movie is not a bore. You won't
look at your watch but will pay attention, eager to take in yet
another howler. In fact, paradoxically, some of the theatrical
goings-on such as the monologue indulged in by Ricki while
she is performing erotic yoga position, the crazed speech by
Starkman, even the knowing looks exchanged between the
detective and the gangster are attention-getters. What's more
as this year Rain Man, NYU graduate and New York resident
Justin Bartha turns in a fine debut performance, a guy who does
not appear overly intimidated by the heavy hitters he's with.

  

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Ford Fairlane says that the Affleck J-Lo flick GIGLI is the worst film ever!

http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/display.cgi?id=13394

Just saw Gigli with Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez. Never have I seen such a disasterous film as this. Martin Brest has finally lost it. I loved Beverly Hills Cop like everyone else. I don't know how much of War Games was his, but I liked that. And I think that Midnight Run is a perfect film. But this movie is all over the place. Matrin Brest doesn't seem to know how to use an editor anymore. Everyone in the theater was writhing for the last hour of the film.

Affleck is Gigli, the hitman with the last name that no one can pronounce. his boss gives him a job to pick up this retarded kid from a hospital, b/c his brother is the prosecuting attorney that is trying to put mafioso Al Pacino behind bars.

This is stupid part number one.

Affleck is able to just walk in and walk out of the hospital with this kid. Not only is this whole part stupid, but from this point on the movie is Rain Man with a hitman, or at least it tries to be. Rain Man however was moving, and this film is just retarded.

On with the story.

J Lo shows up at his apartment where they are keeping the retarded kid. She turns out to be another hit man, ordered to work the same job and keep an eye on Gigli. Why any mob boss would ever think that a good idea is to put the very necessary hostage at the hands of two trigger happy, ego stroking hit men (women), and have them stay at the same house is beyond me. But logic escapes this entire movie. From this plot point, to the taking the patient out of the hospital, there's more. So Affleck wants to bang Lopez, but she's a lesbian. This goes on and on and on, and I swear to God they put footage from Chasing Amy in here, b/c all it is is Affleck and Lopez arguing about gay vs, straight, straight sex vs. gay sex, women vs. men, masculine vs. feminine, on and on and on. It is so boring. They even do one of the scenes with Lopez stretching in sexual positions, where you still end up thinking 'END THIS SCENE NOW!!'

Finally, Gigli's boss wants them to cut off a thumb, but they've grown to like Raymond (I know his name is Brian, but he is Raymond w/o Hoffman) Raymond raps old early 90's rap songs, and dances in public, and curses with his terrets syndrome. you know, he's cure and funny. And in love with the show Baywatch, and don't even get me started on that. Without giving away too much, Gigli cant bring himself to cut off the thumb, and this leads to a falling out with the mob, but falling in love with J. Lo. You see, her ex lover shows up, and slices her wrists. Because its a comedy, and that's what people do in comedies. Suicide. I know, fucking hilarious. AFter that, she takes her lover to the hospital, and then goes home and starts fucking Ben Affleck. Because we all know that lesbians aren't REALLY lesbians. Not with Ben Affleck in the room. Not J. Lo. No. So, the mob closes in, good guys become bad guys, and Affleck and Lopez have to make lifelong decisions. I say this because I don't want to totally ruin the film for those of you who are going to see it.

I can say that this is the worst film that I have seen in about three years. It never knows what it wants to be. Lopez disappears in one of the worst (if not the worst) farewell speeches ever put on celluloid. It has moments of comedy, then romance, then depressing suicde film, followed by a funny scene with Raymond singing Baby's Got Back. Nothing fits.

Save your money and go see something else.

Avoid this like the plague.

The only single redeeming value this film has is J. Lo's nipples piercing through her shirt in the scene in the hospital. Even the sex scene has her covered in a robe THE ENTIRE TIME!!!! Annoying.

  

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Jen and Ben get Gigli with it, and -- lucky us! -- we get to watch.

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/issues/2003-07-31/film.html/1/index.html

For a few minutes, at least, things don't look so bad. Watching Ben Affleck swagger around as the thuggish title character of Gigli ("Rhymes with really," he tells us, twice) is amusing for a bit. Affleck's eminently qualified for the role, actually -- that of a low-level hood pretending to be more important and talented than he truly is. The laughs may not be of the intentional kind, but we'll take what we can get, especially since Affleck seems to be doing his damnedest to impersonate the similarly square-jawed Edward Burns, right down to voice imitation.

Gigli gets assigned to kidnap a "psychologically challenged" youngster, brother of a prosecutor who's making trouble for a New York mobster. Said youngster, Brian (newcomer Justin Bartha), has an affliction that seems to be a vague amalgamation of autism, Tourette's, and white-rapper syndrome (yes, he periodically gives lisping shout-outs to his homies, and recites '90s rap hits verbatim), all of which conveniently go into remission whenever the plot calls for it. Anyway, his initial reaction to Affleck is to repeatedly call him stupid and swear at him, which at least gives us one character to identify with for a while. Then you notice that Bartha doesn't look to have studied any actual handicapped people in creating his character -- just Rain Man, and possibly Malibu's Most Wanted.

From there, however, the plot rests upon a number of suppositions only slightly less convincing than the one writer-director Martin Brest (helmsman of the similarly endless-seeming star vanity projects Scent of a Woman and Meet Joe Black) apparently made about Affleck being a skilled thespian. To wit: One must suppose that the best way to get a hired goon to do his job correctly is to send over a scantily clad hot lesbian bearing the stripper-esque pseudonym of "Ricki" (Jennifer Lopez) to do seminude yoga. Oh yeah, that'll keep Mr. Gigli focused on the job at hand. It helps if this woman is neither tough nor intimidating, but rather issues empty threats from time to time. It goes without saying that it's hard to be scared of mobsters stupid enough to hire "J. Lo" and "B. Af" when, presumably, there must be at least one thug for hire in all of Los Angeles who looks like, say, Danny Trejo.

It's also a given here, much as it is in Danish cinema these days, that the mentally retarded are all noble, innocent beings who can melt the hearts of lowlifes with their mere presence. Additionally, sexual orientation is a lifestyle choice that can be transcended by Ben Affleck simply because he has a hidden feminine side (Indeed, that's a plot point). If converting lesbians isn't sufficiently impressive, how about his ability to cure serious mental problems simply by offering a pointer or two on how to pick up chicks?

Before Gigli's two hours are up, you will also hear Lopez deliver a lengthy monologue about eye-gouging, see Lainie Kazan's ass cheeks and cleavage (she's the mom from My Big Fat Greek Wedding, and plays Gigli's bisexual mom here), hear Lopez describing Affleck's penis, hear Bartha talk about ejaculation, see Affleck try to cut off a human thumb with a plastic knife, and watch fish devour bloody bits of brain. Affleck and Lopez also participate in the worst sex scene ever, but you knew that was inevitable, after what feels like an endless courtship. How exactly are we supposed to believe these two are hardened criminals, when they're making cutesy eyes at one another from the get-go? She threatens to kick his ass early in the game, but never gives any legitimate indication that she's capable of such a feat.

While you're trying to tie yourself a noose out of Red Vines (or Twizzlers, depending on the theater), you may be momentarily distracted by Christopher Walken and Al Pacino getting one scene apiece in an attempt to win back your attention. It's a stalling tactic that works only until you realize that once each scene is over, the movie's going to go back to the same old way it was before.

It wasn't supposed to be like this. Remember back when Ben and Jen seemed like such hot upcoming prospects? Ben was the one Kevin Smith protégée who looked like he could go all the way to the top with his blend of sensitivity and humor, and Jennifer was the perfect mix of beauty and toughness in Out of Sight and Money Train (hell, I'll even throw Anaconda in there). So what happened? Oh, right: Ben got a thoroughly undeserved screenwriting Oscar, and Jennifer decided that playing Selena wasn't enough of a diva fix. Both signed on for Gigli, became Hollywood's power couple, and somehow have managed to exhaust their novelty with the media right about now, as the film's finally being released.

Though the two leads, laughably referred to as "icons" in the press notes, became a couple during the course of filming, the material here is just too easy to make fun of in the context of their subsequent relationship. So let's go for it: One of Jennifer's first lines to Ben is "I'll be in and out before you know it, I promise, I'll just leave a faint scent." Think that was also uttered the night of their first date? Later, she opines, "I done some bad things, but I didn't sign onto this to be a real street thug." Ask ex-beau P. Diddy where she may have found her motivation on that one.

The best line in the movie, hands down, goes to Walken, who stares Affleck down and says, "You don't know nuthin' -- I can tell just by lookin' atcha." That Chris always was an insightful fellow.

So how bad, in the final analysis, is Gigli? The best that can be said about it here is that it doesn't beat out The Ladies Man as the most abrasively awful film of the past five years, nor does it top Battlefield Earth for sheer misguided lunacy, though whoever chose to green light a film about a mobster babysitting a retarded youngster who helps him to "convert" a lesbian really should be fired. Affleck's acting is often cardboard enough to be amusing, but Lopez delivers what may be the worst performance of her entire career (including, yes, The Wedding Planner), looking in every scene like she's just waiting for the last take so she can go home. Twice she delivers speeches supposed to make her look tough-as-nails; both times, we have to wonder how the other characters onscreen could possibly be convinced. A recent episode of South Park suggested that a fourth-grader's hand puppet could turn in a better performance than Ms. Lopez, and in the case of Gigli, it's hard to argue.

  

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1/4 stars

http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/film_review.asp?ID=743

Romantic comedy. Mob spoof. Dysfunctional family melodrama. Rain Man Redux. Indeed, Gigli wishes to have a little something for everyone. Though Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez fell in love on the set of the film, it’s difficult not to look at this shrill mess as a vanity project tailor-made for the couple and targeted at anyone who gets their daily celebrity dish from the E! network. When a confused Affleck stares into the horizon at the end of Martin Brest’s creepy-crawly romantic comedy, it’s anyone’s guess what’s running through the actor’s head. Think of him as a Columbia exec who has to contemplate both the surreal uplift he’s managed to orchestrate by bringing a mentally handicapped teen lothario to the set of a would-be Baywatch location shoot and the likelihood that he’ll get his own “Hollywood ending” as recompense. He does get it, but said ending is so cleverly vague that it should not only excite those most likely to embrace this claptrap but also keep GLAAD at bay. Sure, New Age mob contractor Ricki (Jennifer Lopez) inevitably hops in the sack with the thoroughly repulsive Larry Gigli (Affleck), but the film doesn’t so much suggest that a Guido can scare the lesbian out of any woman cloyingly fond of Pilates as much as it acknowledges that sex is oftentimes a mission of mercy. Because Brest spends much of the film’s running time torturing his audience with a series of on-screen home invasions (characters are constantly barging into rooms and causing elaborate scenes, but the film’s genre-indecisiveness is certainly more offensive), it’s difficult to follow the otherwise shabby plot. Ostensibly, the story follows Ricki and Gigli’s attempts to kidnap a federal prosecutor’s mentally handicapped younger brother, Brian (Justin Bartha), and use the kid as leverage in a case against a hot-tempered low-life played by Al Pacino. Gigli pretends to be a sophisticated comedy of the sexes yet it’s written with the adolescent gusto of a 50-year-old who’s finally discovered that a penis goes inside a vagina. When the hypocritical Ricki isn’t soothing Larry’s savage beast with useless metaphoric banter (he says: “In every relationship there’s a bull and a cow”; she says: “The mouth is the twin sister of the vagina”), Bartha’s curious idiot savant (who’s seemingly afflicted with Tourette Syndrome as well) provides more immediate and deliberate comic relief. Despite your better judgement, you may want to stay past the film’s mid-point or you’ll miss Bartha launching into an impromptu performance of “Baby Got Back” when Affleck begins to hack off a dead man’s thumb using a plastic knife. The horrible noise evokes the much sweeter sound of turntablism and doubles as a nod to Lopez’s infamous posterior. If only any other scene in this brain-dead film was anywhere near as clever or original.


  

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having fun ricky?

  

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>having fun ricky?

like a kid in a candy store on christmas day with a kaleidoscope.

  

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J.Lo and Affleck: We Will Never Work Together Again

http://us.imdb.com/PeopleNews/#2

Superstar couple Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez are so distraught at the critical backlash to their movie Gigli that they have vowed never to work together again. Sources close to the twosome - who met and fell in love on the set of the gangster comedy - say that although in public they have defended the flick, behind closed doors Latina lovely J.Lo is very upset at the bad press. And the sexy pair believe their incredible fame and the gossip surrounding their upcoming marriage doomed the movie to failure before it was released. A source says, "Ben's brushing it off but J.Lo's taking it personally. They've admitted their relationship is more of a hindrance than a boost to a movie."

  

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And the sexy pair
>believe their incredible fame and the gossip surrounding
>their upcoming marriage doomed the movie to failure before
>it was released.

Their relationship didn't doom this film, they're horrible acting is what doomed this film.

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J.Lo, please! You know she thought them being a couple would bring people to the box office to see them and now she's just mad that she was wrong! Some of the media has said they think Ben and Jen will stay together until February, long enough to promote Jersey Girl together. But in light of this, maybe she's thinking they'll get more viewers for Jersey Girl if they break up before then! ks

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>J.Lo, please! You know she thought them being a couple would
> bring people to the box office to see them and now she's
>just mad that she was wrong! then! ks

they weren't a couple before this film.

~G.D.

  

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>>J.Lo, please! You know she thought them being a couple would
>> bring people to the box office to see them and now she's
>>just mad that she was wrong! then! ks
>
>they weren't a couple before this film.

Yes, I know that. I was referring to all the pre-movie release promoting they've been doing, including that Dateline interview. ks

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Gigli: F

http://www.oneguysopinion.com/review.asp?ID=1026

“It’s turkey time,” sultry Ricki (Jennifer Lopez) tells Larry Gigli (Ben Affleck) toward the close of this new romantic comedy from Martin Brest. She knows what she’s talking about, though the remark would have been more honest had it been made at the very start of the movie. You might have thought that the title is pronounced “Jiggly,” in recognition of the ample endowments of Ms. Lopez and the effort she expends in displaying them. But as the titular character explains not once but twice early on, his name rhymes with “really.” As in: “This is a Gigli bad movie,” a statement that might just become a commonplace. It’s difficult to understand what was going through Brest’s mind when he penned this disaster, which goes wrong in so many ways that one can barely keep count of them. To begin with, the underlying premise is a dud: Lou (Lenny Venito), a sleazy California mobster, directs his klutzy enforcer (Affleck) to abduct Brian (Justin Bartha), the brother of a federal prosecutor, in order to pressure the guy to drop a case he’s building against Lou’s east coast boss. Then he saddles Gigli with an unwanted partner, the fetching Ricki. It’s inevitable that the unwilling duo will grow fond not only of their hostage, but also of each other. So far, so bad. But Brest makes this dreary formula worse with several abominable variations. One is to make Brian a mentally-challenged kid, and then tastelessly to portray his disability however his fancy takes him. At first it appears that the boy has Tourette’s, blurting out vulgarities spontaneously; but as the plot wears on he becomes just charmingly slow and docile. Then, in a truly misguided choice, Brest identifies Ricki as a lesbian, making it necessary--in order to explain the inevitable spark that builds between her and Gigli--to suggest that all it takes for her to “jump the fence,” as Larry so elegantly puts it at one point, is meeting an irresistible stud like the lunkheaded hit-man. (The plot twist also results in a perfectly awful sequence in which Ricki’s jealous former partner, played by Missy Crider, breaks in on the pair and misunderstands their relationship. It further means that Affleck has now starred in the best picture ever made about a straight guy falling for a lesbian--Kevin Smith’s “Chasing Amy”--and the worst one, too.) But that’s not all. Presumably recognizing that the flimsy kidnapping scenario won’t support a feature-length movie, even with the long, badly written speeches he gives to each of his leads (Affleck’s, with their frequent sexual slurs, are particularly embarrassing), Brest has added what amount to histrionic cadenzas for three guest stars. The first features Christopher Walken as a verbally florid but singularly obtuse cop who drops in to grill Gigli about the kid who’s disappeared. The second involves Lainie Kazan as Gigli’s raucous mother; here we’re treated to a shot of Kazan’s bare buttocks--a sight we could well do without. And finally Al Pacino shows up to rant and rage mercilessly as the big boss whom the prosecutor has targeted. It’s easy to guess why Pacino agreed to do this grotesquely overwritten scene: he won his Oscar in Brest’s “Scent of a Woman,” and might have considered degrading himself here a suitable gesture of thankfulness. But neither Walken nor Kazan have similar debts to pay. One could go on indefinitely about the appalling aspects of “Gigli,” from its ludicrous contrivances (we’re asked to believe that Larry and Ricki can not only keep the kid in Gigli’s apartment for days without getting caught, but that they can drive him around in a convertible and take him out to eat without anyone noticing, although a massive search must be underway) to the really vulgar emphasis the story puts on Brian’s obsession with sex (his fantasies involving a jiggly TV show actually become the basis for the idiotic but supposedly uplifting finale). One might also point out that even on the technical level the picture is mediocre. But it’s the acting that’s the ultimate insult--not just in the embarrassing cameos by Walken, Kazan and Pacino, but in the leads. Affleck, who’s done some roles very well (see “Changing Lanes,” for instance), plays Gigli as if he were doing a summer-stock version of “The Sopranos”--everything in the performance is overinflected and amateurish. Lopez doesn’t come on so strong, and so she’s not quite as terrible--merely bland. (A workout sequence borders on mild pornography, however.) One feels compassion for Bartha, who’s really trapped in an impossible role, not only poorly written but blatantly offensive (especially when compared to instances when characters such as this are properly depicted--just think of “Gilbert Grape”); he can take comfort in the fact that other young actors have survived similar indignities. But one doesn’t feel anything for the scenery-chewing Crider or Venito but a profound sense of shame. I’m sure that all of us wish Affleck and Lopez the best in their much-reported private lives, and their chemistry off-screen may well be extraordinary. On the basis of this fiasco, however, it’s clear that on screen Ben and J-Lo are no Tracy and Hepburn--they’re more like the Sean Penn and Madonna of “Shanghai Surprise.” And their movie is just as rotten as that one.

  

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Gigli: 1.5/4

http://www.movienavigator.org/gigli.htm

As moviegoers, we suffer through dozens of cliché-riddled romantic-comedies each year. I can think of six such movies, all formulaic and all indistinguishable from one another, which were released since the beginning of 2003. Gigli is an unconventional romantic-comedy, the type of movie that is rarely financed by large studios. It is also living proof that films require more than a deviation from the standard formula to be enjoyable.

Gigli stars Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez, the highly-publicized couple who have appeared in more tabloid magazines than both Lobster Boy and Bigfoot combined. The press has expressed much skepticism towards Ben and J. Lo’s on-screen chemistry, and unjustly so. While the lovebirds have both gelled better with other on-screen partners in their previous work (Affleck with Gwyneth Paltrow in Bounce/Lopez with George Clooney in Out of Sight), in this case, I’d blame the material they have to work with more than the lovers themselves.

Ben Affleck plays the title character, Larry Gigli (pronounced Gee-ly), a second-rate loanshark who is constantly belittled by his hardass boss (Lenny Venito). His latest assignment is to kidnap the younger brother of a Los Angeles prosecutor, who happens to be mentally handicap, and hold him hostage so that a renowned mobster (Al Pacino) can resolve his legal problems. Since Larry is considered to be a fuck up, aid is sent to him in the form of Ricki (Jennifer Lopez), a smooth talking criminal who (sweet irony!) happens to be gay.

So Affleck and Lopez baby-sit Brian (Justin Bartha), the handicap teenager who also suffers from tourettes, while building loads and loads of sexual tension.

As one of Hollywood's most charismatic actors, Ben Affleck can barely be imagined in a bland role, but in Gigli, his character could not be engaging even if he had Will Hunting as a best friend. Larry spends the entire film cursing and overreacting to every situation, keeping the audience at a distance. I had checked out emotionally from the film long before the end credits. Affleck does provide numerous laughs, but I can’t think of many actors who’d be capable of doing so were they cast in the same role.

I do wish writer-director Martin Breast would understand the difference between unconventional humor and inappropriate humor. A suicide attempt certainly isn’t typical in romantic-comedies, but if the scene does not benefit the story (in the case of Gigli, it’s not even relevant to the story), then I usually feel like the director is killing time. Between Meet Joe Black and Gigli, Breast has killed a lot of time.

How does a filmmaker who is responsible for some of the most entertaining movies in history (Midnight Run, Beverly Hills Cop) churn-out something like Gigli? Who knows, but in a film where the only character you remotely care about is an obscenity-spewing adolescent lifted right out of Rain Man, you know some elements are not working.

Chief among those elements ‘not working’ is the romance. Or, more appropriately, the complete absence of romance. I can’t remember the last time two characters were forced this forcefully to fall in love. Sigh. I just hope Gigli doesn’t do any damage towards the second teaming of Ben and Jen, Jersey Girl, set for release next year. -Shaun Sages
GRADE: C-

  

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Huh...Wouldn't 1.5/4 be an F, or maybe at most a D? :-P ks

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30. "rottentomatoes.com does the num/4"
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>Huh...Wouldn't 1.5/4 be an F, or maybe at most a D? :-P ks

the actual reviewer in this case came up with the letter grade. there's the difference.

most important number to remember-9. as in the 9 dollars they're not getting from me.

  

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Well, I paid $6.75 at the matinee, and I DEFINITELY feel like Brest and the Ben-Lo "team" owe me a refund.

>>most important number to remember-9. as in the 9 dollars
>they're not getting from me.

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14. "worst film ever?"
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http://us.imdb.com/StudioBrief/#2

Sony Pictures and Revolution are hoping that the popular appeal of Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez -- "Ben & Jen," as they have become known -- will offset a torrent of negative publicity and disastrous test screenings of their movie Gigli, which opens Friday. Today's (Wednesday) Los Angeles Times observed that the two companies "are now nervously awaiting the film's reviews, fearful critics will do battle to be the meanest." Several "unofficial" reviews have already appeared. FoxNews.com's Roger Friedman this week put the film at the top of his list of all-time bad movies. "Witless, coarse, and vulgar, Gigli is worse than its advance buzz could have indicated," he wrote. "The film -- if you can call it that -- is a total, mindless disaster." Today's New York Post quotes Good Morning America critic Joel Siegel as saying tersely following a screening Monday night, "I was shocked."
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p.s.-review at imdb.com said:"Makes Ishtar look Like Citizen Kane" lol

  

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I think I'm going to grab a fifth of jack daniels and sneak into a matinee this weekend. Should be GREAT times.

  

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just wait til friday.

all these reviews are the "little critics", who usually kiss ass to big hollywood names. joel siegel said he was embarassed after the screening. just wait.

08-01-03:redemption day

>I think I'm going to grab a fifth of jack daniels and sneak
>into a matinee this weekend. Should be GREAT times.

yeah i'm not paying, but if i can get in free i'll see it. gigli might be on some ed wood level-so bad you hafta see it.

  

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hahaha, i love horrible movies

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18. "i, rather we, expect a review"
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and tell me how many people walked out or booed after it finished.

good luck.

  

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19. "YESSSSSSSS I LOVE IT!!!"
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Keep it coming, Ricky. I can't stand JHo.

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21. "This may sqaush B-Lo's hopes of the Casablanca remake"
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(if the rumors were true to begin with)

I was SO looking forward to watching Ben spit Bogey one liners...."Here's lookin at you kid". Might as well just piss on his grave while you're at it.

  

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:::gaps with horror:::

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Gigli: 1.5/4 stars

http://www.aufmuth.com/jeanne/reviews/Gigli.html

Publicity for this precocious mob comedy/drama has been heavily focused on Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez’ onscreen chemistry. Do they or don’t they? Bottom line, it’s irrelevant. “Gigli” is so misguided that sparks between the leads is the least of its worries.

Larry Gigli (Affleck) is a mob small-timer, a dim-watt bozo who kidnaps a powerful federal prosecutor’s mentally-challenged brother (Justin Bartha as Brian) and holds him hostage until the proper pressure can be put to the proper parties. Not willing to risk such a delicate operation with a loose cannon in charge, big boss Louis (Lenny Venito) dispatches gorgeous New Age gangster Ricki (Lopez) to co-chair the situation.

More than a little miffed at the professional slight, Gigli (rhymes with “rea-lly”) does his best to turn a blind eye to Ricki’s keen intellect and bodacious booty. With little success. As Gigli and Ricki impatiently wait out their job instructions (and cope with the baffling shenanigans of their idiot savant roomie), something akin to a friendship develops, fraught with the ups and downs of sexual tension (his).

Perhaps “Gigli” would have clicked if it had a plot. Or the least little bit of focus. Short of a barely-burgeoning romance (that loses its flicker when Ricki announces that she’s gay), nothing of significance transpires. The script is an abomination – full of insulting cracks at homophobia, crass references to mental retardation, and countless allusions to the illustrious nature of the vagina.

File it away under Weird: over-the-top single-scenes from Christopher Walken as a paranoid cop, and Al Pacino as a whacked-out mafia kingpin, whose unhappiness regarding the deteriorating kidnap operation manifests itself into one of his trademark tirades.

Call me crazy, but I’ve always enjoyed Affleck’s and J. Lo’s individual screen presence. Each is capable of comfortably headlining a film, exuding genuine qualities that almost transcend the material. Affleck’s macho posturing is tinged with vulnerability, and J. Lo’s fresh looks and authentic emotion are easily accessible. But “Gigli” smacks of nothing more than a poorly executed vanity project – albeit one that united Hollywood’s most infamous A-list couple.

  

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24. "salon.com: only a minor failure . . . WHAT??!?!?"
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Critics can't help trashing the new Jen-and-Ben vehicle, but it deserves credit for its refreshingly frank sexuality

http://www.salon.com/ent/movies/review/2003/07/30/gigli/index.html

As is often the case with movies that have poisonous advance word of mouth, "Gigli" turns out to be merely bad -- not a train wreck, not the crime against humanity it's been rumored to be. That, and the fact that it's fashionable to hate Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez right now, will probably do nothing to discourage the predictable pig pile of critics trying to outdo each other by seeing who can be the most dismissive or scathing. After all, nobody wants to look like the class nerd.

More often than not, buzz is something created by the studio, and there are too many -- you should pardon the expression -- entertainment journalists and critics who report that buzz as if it's fact. Needless to say, critics who believe anything a studio tells them in advance are damn fools. I don't know how many times I've heard critics say, "It must be bad, the studio isn't screening it" as if marketability were a mark of quality.

I suspect that what's made Columbia nervous about the movie isn't that it's bad -- studios release far worse movies with no compunction -- but that it isn't a formula picture. There are no car chases or explosions, no boffo jokes that can become catchphrases before the movie opens, and only one gunshot. The ads, showing Affleck and J.Lo in a clinch, don't hint that she plays a lesbian. "Gigli" is a character-driven piece, pitched awkwardly between comedy and drama.

Affleck is Gigli, a mob enforcer who's far too tenderhearted to bring his assignments the level of brutality desired by his boss (played by Lenny Venito -- to say he gives a one-note performance would be generous). A federal prosecutor is threatening to make trouble, so Gigli's boss tells him to kidnap the prosecutor's teenage autistic brother Brian (Justin Bartha) for leverage. Gigli's boss doesn't trust him not to screw up, so he sends another contractor named Ricki (Lopez) to keep an eye on things. She flummoxes Gigli. Not only does she show more patience and kindness toward Brian's quirks, but her quiet way of dealing with things makes hash of Gigli's macho bluster.

The lead performances work the same way. Affleck bellows his way through dem, dese, and dose-isms and Lopez, who underplays nicely, consistently shows him up with her quiet, confident line readings. She's charming here, and I loved watching her. The tension between Gigli and Ricki comes from the fact that he can't believe this gorgeous woman is immune to his swaggering. It's fun to watch Lopez disarm Affleck. Her best scene comes when, while doing yoga, she explains to him that it's the vagina and not the penis that's the real power in the world. One thing the writer-director Martin Brest can take pride in is that "Gigli" has a sexual openness uncommon in Hollywood movies. There's no shame, no big shock moment when, during that speech, Lopez refers to "my pussy." And when they do go to bed, it's not presented as if Ricki is "cured" of her lesbianism. Sex is sex, the movie is saying, and the reality of sex is that sometimes we find ourselves falling into bed with the least likely partner. And besides, she seduces him.

There's a startling moment at the beginning of that seduction when Ricki asks Gigli if he thinks his nails need clipping. The movie turns it into a bit about discerning a man's masculinity from how he looks at his nails. But we all know what it means when a woman asks a man she's about to go to bed with if his nails need clipping. It's the sort of small, recognizable sexual detail the movies routinely shy away from. (And while the movie's treatment of the autistic Brian is often icky, it doesn't pretend that he doesn't have sexual feelings either. At times Bartha's performance is too much Rainman Jr. At other times, he's unpredictably funny.)

The problem with "Gigli" -- and it isn't a small one -- is that Brest never finds an appropriate tone or pace. He appears to be trying for something like a European sense of melancholy here and instead the movie just feels confused (the black comic moments are jarring, though I did laugh at a shot of a fish happily chowing down on a bit of brain matter that's found its way into his tank). Christopher Walken shows up for a few minutes of patented weirdness, and so does Al Pacino, whose five-minute performance may be the worst acting he's ever done. Predictably, the movie falls into sap, and it takes forever for Brest to bring things to a conclusion. He gets a few good comic moments. Brian likes to be read to at bedtime and Gigli, without a book in his house, is reduced to reading the labels of Tabasco sauce and toilet paper to soothe the kid. And there's a funny moment when a gruesome sound inspires Brian to use it as a backbeat to rap Sir Mix-a-Lot's "Baby Got Back."

Considering what Hollywood has put out this summer without any shame, the likes of "Hulk" and "Bad Boys II," "Gigli" is a minor failure, nothing to celebrate but nothing to be ashamed of. Unless a movie that tries -- however badly -- to concentrate on character instead of spectacle has come to be considered a crime.

  

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Gigli: 0/5

http://www.killermoviereviews.com/main.php?nextlink=display&dId=307&subLinks=

If GIGLI were any worse than it is, it would require special HAZMET handling. It transcends merely bad, merely tedious, merely irksome and plummets into that very special category of film, the one that so tries and tortures its audience that, emerging again from the soul-sucking black hole of celluloid disaster, it no longer fears death.

When something is this ill-conceived, it can be hard to know where to start when reviewing it. Bad writing, bad direction, bad acting, they all come into play, but fortunately, GIGLI's star is Ben Affleck, and that makes things fairly easy. Not that the writing and directing courtesy of Martin "Hoo Haa" Brest wouldn't have sunk this flick all on its own, but having Ben at the helm, well, that just gets us there so very much faster. Ben is the Gigli of the title, a low-rent strong-arm guy who seems to get his tips on enforcing from Letterman's Stupid Human Tricks. His latest job is to kidnap a mentally handicapped kid and keep him on ice for a few days. To make sure he doesn't screw up, his boss sends insurance in the form of Jennifer Lopez. And, honestly, that's all you really need to know or that I need to relive. Suffice to say that the story is as flat, barren, and airless as the dark side of the moon. A wanna-be tantalizing interplay between Ben and J. Lo on the primary and secondary sexual characteristics of the genders is a public service message for abstinence, even with J. Lo writhing through a yoga routine in skimpy active wear during the chat. When Gigli needs to keep the kid he's kidnapped sequestered, he takes him out in a convertible and then picks a fight at a taco stand.

Sigh.

Gigli is supposed to be a dim bulb at best and no one captures dim better than Ben. When he's up on screen, furrowing his brow in yet another doomed attempt to emote, one vainly attempts to find some light behind the oddly and persistently vacant eyes, some spark, a flicker, a glimmer, even, of a nascent sentience attempting to make contact with the outside world. Alas, it is a fruitless search and one is once again back on the dark side of the moon. The man is outacted by his hair, though to be fair, it is a fabulous pompadour, aggressive in a millennial way and sculpted with the care and craftsmanship usually reserved for Rococo excrescences. J. Lo flicks her hair, bobs her head, and generally doesn't do anything that will muss her makeup.

Christopher Walken has an extended cameo for no real reason except to provide a side-by-side comparison of the difference between air-brushed vacuousity and quirky charisma. When he left, it was actually painful to know that I couldn't go with him instead of having to stay with Ben and J. Lo. Not even Al Pacino popping up to chew some scenery helped, not after that close up of Laine Kazan's hot pink thong.

After GIGLI, Costner can walk a little taller despite WATERWORLD, Madonna, despite SWEPT AWAY, and everyone involved despite their association with SHOWGIRLS.

  

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Gigli

http://www.theonionavclub.com/review.php?review_id=6666

There aren't many reasons to see the talky, spark-free gangland romantic comedy Gigli, but intrepid moviegoers should at least try to slip in and catch one scene before shuffling off to Seabiscuit or Terminator 3. That scene comes shortly after loudmouthed enforcer Ben Affleck spends his first night with Justin Bartha (the kidnapped, developmentally disabled brother of a federal judge Affleck's bosses want to influence) and Jennifer Lopez (a lesbian fellow contractor assigned to make sure Affleck does the job right). Playing a police detective, Christopher Walken shows up for some unannounced intimidation. In a few short minutes, his scene spotlights the range of his talent, as he veers from scary to funny to bizarre, then back again. Unfortunately, he feels like an old pro condescending to stop by for amateur night. Sure, writer-director Martin Brest lends the film a professional sheen, and his stars (who some rumors suggest may have become romantically involved) have charisma to spare, but the film has all the charge and momentum of a Paxil ad. In what passes for chemistry, Lopez smirks while Affleck yells in a voice borrowed from early John Travolta roles. He delivers a monologue about how every relationship has a bull and a cow. She counters his bluster with quotes from Sun Tzu, though the film lets her killing skills, like her sexuality, remain mostly a matter of hearsay. Apart from the painful anticipation of waiting for Bartha—a newcomer who seems to have seen Rain Man once or twice—to demand a trip to see "the Baywatch" or bust into another impromptu rap, the tension comes from Affleck's inability to score with Lopez, whose professed sexual preference lasts longer against Affleck's charms than Joey Lauren Adams' does in Chasing Amy, but not by much. To be fair, Brest seems to have set out to make a film exploring such sexual vagaries, a theme his characters discuss repeatedly and at great length. But it would be a lot easier to appreciate what the film works toward if it ever came close to getting there. Instead, the dialogue sounds as unconvincing as the action it sets up, a fatal flaw for a film that's essentially all talk. Neither a loud, bloody cameo from Al Pacino nor the obviously tacked-on ending come close to redeeming the tedium, and the unfulfilled promise of a second scene from Walken doesn't help.

  

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34. "check the number on the web address"
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intentional?

Oh, and I'm pretty sure Affleck's character was going to die, but they changed it after screenings. Should be a good DVD easter egg. search for trivia on it at imdb.com

  

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Gigli

http://www.laweekly.com/film/film_results.php?showid=2483

How fortunate that the J. Lo bod, majestic butt and all, finds itself in excellent working order in Gigli: There is precious little other consolation in this formless windbag of a romantic comedy with bits of gangster flick stuck to the edges. Lopez gives her radiant all as an enforcer sent to supervise an incompetent low-level hood (Ben Affleck, mugging, huffing and rolling his eyes) after he kidnaps the mentally handicapped brother (promising unknown Justin Bartha) of a federal prosecutor about to indict a mob boss (Al Pacino, declaiming in a tiny ponytail). This is one of those rare Hollywood movies in which one longs for more plot. As those who suffered through Scent of a Woman know, all writer-director Martin Brest wants is to have his self-consciously quirky protagonists represent his quirky views on everything from love and life, to the finer points of Chinese military theory, to the resemblance between a woman’s lips and her sexual organs. Occasionally the fog lifts to reveal the ineffably funny Christopher Walken and Lainie Kazan in regrettably brief walk-ons. For the rest, Lopez and Affleck try not to smile at each other while gassing on and on until you’re praying, dear God, please make them shut up and do it so we can all go home in peace.

  

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Gigli: 1/4 Stars

http://www.criticdoctor.com/petersobczynski/gigli.html

Let us suppose that you are looking for a movie to see this weekend (and frankly, it isn’t like you have a choice: it is your duty as an American to be constantly entertained at all times). If you were to pick the kind of film that you would least want to spend two hours of your life watching, which of the following would be tops on you "Must Miss!" list?

A. A film in which a straight guy falls for a lesbian and spends an inordinate amount of time trying (successfully, of course) to convert her to the straight and narrow.

B. A film in which a tough, hard-hearted type finds his cynical nature softening after spending an inordinate amount of time with a mentally handicapped (but only in wacky, life-affirming ways) person.

C. A zany comedy about mobsters in which the lead character talks in the "deese" and "dose" patois generally favored by productions of "Guys and Dolls" staged by lesser high schools.

D. A star vehicle for a couple of media personalities whose joint overexposure has already hit critical mass.

E. A film which features a close-up of Lainie Kazan receiving an insulin shot in her thong-covered hinder.

Well, you indecisive types can rest easy because "Gigli" manages to include all of those elements, and others even more horrifying to consider, in one astoundingly bad package that almost (but not quite) has to be seen to be believed. Although this film has received some of the worst advanced buzz (with rumors of delays, reshoots and even an alleged fistfight between director Martin Brest and one of the producers following a bad test screening) since the Madonna bomb "Swept Away", it somehow manages to exceed those low expectations. And like "Swept Away", this film is likely to be the next big Hollywood punchline: whenever the subject of the idiocy of contemporary American film crops up, "Gigli" is likely to be the gold standard of junk by which all bad films for the next decade or so will be measured.

Although the ads, I notice, are careful not to mention it, I was aware going in to the film that the plot partially revolved around a mob enforcer kidnapping a mentally retarded guy and when I first heard the muffled squawks emerging from Ben Affleck’s mouth in the very first scene, I just assumed that he scored the role of the Rainman-wanna-be. Turns out that he actually plays the enforcer, a none-too-bright dope with the name of Gigli (which rhymes with "really" and whose mispronunciation is the basis for one of the more irritating running jokes) and what sounds like someone trying to impress a date with a really bad impression of Jack Nicholson in "Prizzi’s Honor" is actually his idea of what a gangster talks like. One day, he is ordered by his boss, Louis (Lenny Venito) to remove the mentally challenged Brian (Justin Bartha) from the hospital where he resides and hang on to him until further notice.

After doing so (with laughable ease), Gigli brings Brian (one of those movie retards who always speaks gibberish until the film requires him to be poetic and who has all sorts of "adorable" quirks-including a fascination with "Baywatch", bad 90’s rap and Australian accents) back to his apartment, where they begin to get on each others nerves: Brian needs someone to read to him before he can sleep and Gigli, who has no reading material at all, is forced to recite the label of a bottle of hot sauce (oddly enough, this is the most striking writing that the script has to offer.) Soon, Gigli has another visitor in Ricki (Jennifer Lopez), who is another enforcer that Louis has hired to make sure that Gigli doesn’t screw up. Eventually, they discover that Brian is the brother of a district attorney about to bring charges against a top mob boss: the theory is that if the gangsters hold the brother hostage, the D.A. will drop the case.

This is an extraordinarily stupid premise for a plot (in fact, there is even a scene late in the film where a character-played in a cameo by a scenery-chewing Al Pacino- explains just how fundamentally dumb it actually is) but compared to what is to follow, it comes off as the smart part of the film. It turns out that Ricki is a lesbian (or at least claims to be in order to ward off the astoundingly unappealing Gigli) and the film bogs down into endless discussions between the two about male-female relationships. One in particular-in which Ricki delivers a long, unfunny speech about the joys of girl-girl love-is so grotesquely written and badly played that the literal vagina monologue is the second dumbest and most embarrassing scene I have ever seen Jennifer Lopez (who, you will remember, once shared the screen with a regurgitated Jon Voight and a giant fake snake in "Anaconda") take part in. Unfortunately for us all, it is surpassed a few minutes later during the big love scene in which she finally succumbs to the charms of Gigli (making it the second on-screen conversion for Affleck, after the infinitely better "Chasing Amy")-a scene which will go down in screen history for both the jaw-dropping dialogue (watch "Gobble, gobble" become the camp line of the decade) and the astounding lack of sexual heat displayed between the two. They are as sizzling as a Slurpee and you could grab two people at random on a bus and they would almost certainly display more charisma than Affleck and Lopez demonstrate.

"Gigli" was written and directed by Martin Brest (the same guy who once did the wonderful "Midnight Run") and the best thing that can be said about his work here is that, compared to the bladder-busting running times of recent efforts like "Scent of a Woman" (157 min) and "Meet Joe Black" (178 min), it comes in at a relatively short 124 minutes. However, he still manages to cram in any number of scenes that are patently unnecessary. There is the obsession that the retarded guy has with "Baywatch" (complete with unconvincing payoff). There is the pointless detour where Gigli brings everyone over to visit his mother (the aforementioned Lainie Kazan appearance). Most grotesquely, there is a long sequence in which a former girlfriend of Ricki’s (Missi Crider) storms into Gigli’s apartment, instigates a big screaming fight and then, for no apparent reason, makes a bloody suicide attempt. Not only does this ugly scene stop the movie cold(er), it is never referred to again, making its inclusion especially hateful. Wasn’t there anyone during the long production of this film brave enough to go up to Brest and say "Gee, do you really need the bit where the auxiliary character slashes her wrists and then disappears?"

There is, I must admit, one genuinely great scene in "Gigli" (it occurs about thirty minutes in, if you want to slip into the multiplex at the appropriate time) and it is due entirely to the presence of Christopher Walken, making one of his increasingly ubiquitous appearances in an otherwise unworthy film (perhaps he didn’t want "Kangaroo Jack" to go down as the worst film in appeared in during 2003). As a wily cop on the trail of Brian, it is clear that he has been directed to simply do the best Christopher Walken impersonation possible and he obliges with a turn that is freakily entertaining even by his standards. During his eight-minute aria, he minces, he glowers, he goes off on strange tangents (he has a line about Marie Calendar that is almost worth the price of admission) and, most importantly, he shows Affleck and Lopez (who are all but struck mute for the duration) what real screen charisma and star power is: he is so compelling that when he finally leaves, you wish that Brest would follow him around and leave the other dopes behind. I am giving "Gigli" one star and that is only because of Walken: if Brest were smart, when the film hits DVD, he should only release that scene and stick the rest in the deleted scenes section.

  

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35. "sick boy doesn't even like it"
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Gigli: 1/10

http://www.sick-boy.com/gigli.htm

I ordinarily don't like to go after an easy target. It used to be a blast to mock the French, but then everyone started doing it after that country didn't back efforts to root out nonexistent weapons of mass destruction in Iraq (how could they, les bastards!). I tried applying the same logic to Gigli, at least before I saw it. Since the buzz was unbelievably bad, and the few critics who screened the film before me had such a great time bashing it with all of their might, I thought it might be fun to approach the film in a positive manner. "Even if it's bad," I reasoned, "it might be so bad it's good."

So much for my optimism. Gigli is a gargantuan piece of shit and deserves a place in the Bad Movie Hall of Shame. Put it higher than Showgirls (because that had the balls to push the nudity envelope) and the unholy trinity of Glitter, Battlefield Earth and Gods and Generals (because those were vanity projects forced through the system). Gigli, which was originally slated for release last November, is the biggest waste of talent since Full Frontal. Or maybe even Ishtar.

It's no surprise Gigli's writer-director (Meet Joe Black's Martin Brest) and producer (Joe Roth) brawled at a less-than-positive test screening earlier this year. This picture is so awful, even I fought the urge to punch someone once it finally ended (which was about 40 minutes after it should have ended). It's a movie about contract killers with precious little violence. It's a nightmarish blend of Rain Man and Chasing Amy. It's full of long-winded speeches that say absolutely nothing, which makes Gigli a little like The Matrix Reloaded.

Ben Affleck (Daredevil) plays Larry Gigli (rhymes with "really"), a doofus heavy for a SoCal mobster named Louis (Lenny Venito, Men in Black 2). Larry's latest assignment is to kidnap the retarded brother of a federal prosecutor. He manages to do so with shockingly little effort, but once he accompanies Brian (newcomer Justin Bartha) back to his apartment, Larry learns Louis has sent a second fixer to make sure nothing gets screwed up.

That's the meet-cute (or meet-dumb, in this case) for Affleck and Jennifer Lopez (Maid in Manhattan), who plays lesbian hitperson Ricki. He's all tough and impulsive and old school, looking like he just teleported here from the '50s. She's cool, calm and collected, and practices all manner of crazy new age crap. Can you already feel the sexual tension? If you can, you certainly won't be able to once you actually watch Gigli. There is zero chemistry between the real-life lovers, at least from an adult point of view. Kids might be the only ones stupid enough to buy into this mess, but thanks to what must be one of the all-time worst marketing blunders, Gigli is rated R, mostly for its crude language and sex talk. If they purposely went after an R-rating, why not add some skin and a lot more violence?

Everyone is raving about Gigli's brief cameos from real actors (Christopher Walken, Lainie Kazan and Al Pacino, who won an Oscar for Brest's Scent of a Woman), but I think they just seem great compared to the rest of the bullshit on the screen. Kind of a pleasant distraction, like when your doctor busts out with "Baby Got Back" during your colonoscopy. Using the same logic, Lopez seems like a downright capable actress when paired with the hapless Affleck, and that's a statement that literally pains me to type.

  

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Flak Affects Affleck (And Jen)

http://us.imdb.com/StudioBrief/

Several publications and Internet fan sites were carrying reports Wednesday that Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez are so upset over the terrible buzz that their upcoming movie Gigli has received that they have vowed never to work together again. They reportedly have told friends that they believe the backlash resulted from the gossip about them appearing in the tabloids and elsewhere. Meanwhile, several newspapers today (Thursday) are running reviews of the movie that moved over the Associated Press and Reuters news wires on Wednesday. Both wire services mercilessly panned the film, described by some as a gory romantic comedy/thriller. In New York, the satirical newspaper The Onion said that focus groups at advance screenings of the movie "have demanded a new ending in which both stars die in as brutal a manner as possible." In keeping with the content of the film, the spoof piece continued, focus group members said that the characters should be shot through the head "both at once with a single shot from an elephant gun" or "several hundred times, with multiple camera angles showing their bodies jerking as they're shredded with a heavy hosing of lead, spraying the lens with gobbets of meat and bone and blood, with the sheer number of fist-sized exit wounds obviously precluding any sequel."

  

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No such thing as bad publicity? Consider 'Gigli'

http://www.calendarlive.com/movies/cl-et-horn30jul30,0,4578052.story?coll=cl-movies-features

The paparazzi gantlet for Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez at Sunday's "Gigli" premiere was as hungry as it was long. But when the film's stars climbed out of their Rolls-Royce Phantom, Affleck and Lopez first ignored the many cameras, walking across the street to greet scores of frenzied fans and sign dozens of autographs. It was a rare — and fleeting — moment of adoration for a movie that has suffered some of the most negative attention since Madonna's disastrous "Swept Away."

Opening Friday, "Gigli" provides a textbook tale of how circumstances beyond a studio's and a filmmaker's control can undermine a movie at every turn. Revolution Studios and Sony Pictures, which respectively made and are releasing "Gigli," are now nervously awaiting the film's reviews, fearful critics will do battle to be the meanest. If the film's history can be trusted, their fears are understandable: Plenty of movies struggle and often fail, but few do so publicly and with so much gang tackling.

From "Gigli's" first test screenings, where writer-director Martin Brest clashed with Revolution studio chief Joe Roth over the film's final act and pace, to the film's poster, which allegedly featured a retouched version of Lopez's famous derrière (which the studio denies), nearly every step of the film's path to the screen has been chronicled by the Internet, the tabloids and, eventually, the mainstream media.

Taken together, "Gigli" has single-handedly disproved the maxim that there's no such thing as bad publicity.

A number of people involved in "Gigli's" production talked about marketing the film on condition they not be identified by name. They told a story of swimming constantly against a tide of bad press and an off-screen romance that ultimately proved to be the film's greatest marketing liability.

Despite the bad early buzz, Affleck and Lopez both went to bat for the film, playing off their celebrity sizzle. "They were out there," Revolution partner Tom Sherak says of the two actors. "They cared. They were involved. They were both busy making other movies, and they still did everything and anything we asked them to do."

Neither a romantic comedy nor a standard drama, the $54-million film stars Affleck as a Los Angeles thug named Larry Gigli (it rhymes with "really"), ordered by his gangster boss to kidnap the disabled son of a federal prosecutor. Soon after Gigli abducts the young man, a second mobster named Ricki (Lopez) arrives at Gigli's apartment to make sure everything's under control. Gigli quickly falls for Ricki, who lets him know she's gay. But will they still fall in love?

If their movie romance is in doubt, their off-screen romance certainly isn't. And the real-life love affair presented several challenges, according to people who worked on "Gigli." The biggest problem is that moviegoers may not want to spend $9 to watch a romance they can catch at any hour of any day on TV for free. Furthermore, their real-life love affair compromises any mystery that surrounds the film's make-believe plot: If you already know they are going to end up together, where's the suspense in the theater?

Sony and Revolution tried a number of advertising strategies to persuade people there is an actual movie. (Because the movie's title is easily mispronounced, the film was briefly called "Tough Love," but Affleck, among others, preferred the original tongue-twisting title.) In an attempt to overcompensate for the tabloids, new ads focus heavily on the movie's plot and less on its stars. But the new TV spot was eclipsed by more gossip about the couple — this time their impending marriage. At the same time, the studios were never able to establish the film as the work of a respected filmmaker (the Oscar-nominated Brest also made "Midnight Run" and "Scent of a Woman"). It was always about Affleck and Lopez — though ironically, Lopez only stepped into the role after Halle Berry dropped out of the project.

Internet attention

It's hard to find stars higher up the celebrity food chain than Affleck and Lopez — just glance at any newsstand. So early research screenings of the film drew instant Internet attention, especially on www.aintitcoolnews.com. One Web reviewer said, "Never have I seen such a disasterous film as this." Another said the film "is so bad, so god awful, and so painful to sit through that I seriously think it's flat out unreleasable."

Sony and Revolution believe the online reviews of the incomplete film were unnecessarily personally and professionally vindictive, but whatever their motivation the Internet notices were quickly repeated in the mainstream media, a toxic development from which the studio struggled but was never able to recover fully.

The bad press spun out globally. In the last week, for instance, articles disparaging "Gigli" have been published everywhere from India's Hindustan Times to Scotland's Glasgow Evening Times. Many of these stories have included mentions from some of the Internet reviews.

Ken Sunshine, Affleck's publicist, says reporters have dwelled so much on the couple's romance that "they aren't giving the movie a chance."

The romance generates other, unexpected issues, according to some people who worked on the film. Thanks to his early work in titles such as "Good Will Hunting" and "Chasing Amy" (in which he also falls in love with a lesbian), Affleck enjoys a noteworthy following among independent film fans. But his romance with Lopez, a pop-culture powerhouse with meager art house appeal, actually hurts Affleck's draw, several executives said. Miramax even has postponed "Jersey Girl," another movie starring Affleck and Lopez from filmmaker Kevin Smith, from November to early next year in order to distance itself from "Gigli."

Affleck's art house fans aren't the only moviegoers left out in the cold. Lopez's core audience is composed of young girls. But they won't be able to see "Gigli" without a parent or guardian, because the film's language and violence earned it an R rating.

Debate on screenings

One of the more spirited debates preceding "Gigli's" release focused on early screenings. Unlike premieres and media screenings that are typically held a week or so before a film opens, these early word-of-mouth showings can start a month or more before the debut weekend. Sometimes, they are publicly advertised as "sneak previews." The idea for both the sneak preview and recruited screenings is to heighten audience interest in movies that are both flying under the radar and are actually pretty good. The problem with "Gigli" was that the film certainly wasn't flying under the radar, and several people who worked on the film admitted it wasn't all that great.

Some people involved in the debate felt that since some moviegoers assumed "Gigli" was no better than "Ishtar," early screenings would prove that the film was hardly that kind of epic disaster. These people believed that without showing "Gigli," its bad buzz would continue to mushroom, until it totally overran the film itself. They also felt that advertisements would never be able to convey the film's idiosyncratic plot, but that early screenings would.

But others believed any further "Gigli" exposure would only fan the flames of mounting audience disapproval. Ultimately, Sony and Revolution decided not to hold any recruited or sneak preview screenings.

Sony and Revolution have been working diligently to squeeze at least one good weekend of ticket sales from the film. Two weekends ago, the two stars sat down for about 60 junket interviews with TV reporters, and they spent nearly an hour talking to fans and the media at the film's premiere. The pair also were interviewed by Pat O'Brien as part of a package that ran on the "Today" show, "Dateline NBC" "VH1" and "Access Hollywood."

The O'Brien interview, which made the couple appear like regular folk, appears to have helped the film. Audience surveys show that while many people are aware of "Gigli," the film is the first moviegoing choice for very few. But after the widely watched O'Brien interview was broadcast, the number of people, particularly women, interested in seeing the film went up significantly.

The film also will be shown tonight and Thursday night as part of radio station promotions in 75 cities. Those screenings come so close to the film's theatrical debut on Friday they won't affect word-of-mouth, but instead will deliver radio mentions of the film across the country, which Sony estimates can be worth millions in advertising.

It's a small help, but at this point, "Gigli" needs all the help it can get.

  

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76. "RE: reel bad publicity"
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>No such thing as bad publicity? Consider 'Gigli'

im not sure. all these bad reviews you posted have actually gotten me to consider watching this movie. for real, this could really be the most embarrasing moment in film history. i would be a fool not to experience this piece of shit.

the way i see it, i think im gonna go stoned to the movie theater. it could go one of two ways:

1)so bad it kills my high

2)so bad that the unintentional comedy will have me buggin out seriously.

if it really is so bad that it kills my high, ill just sneak into another movie.


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1 Star

Real-life couple gives lousy performances in pandering kidnapping romance 'Gigli'

http://splicedwire.com/03reviews/gigli.html

In what may go down as most embarrassing, imprudent attempt at cleverly sexy dialogue the history of cinema, the gangland romantic comedy catastrophe entitled "Gigli" features Jennifer Lopez coming on to Ben Affleck by asking to be orally pleasured with the line, "Come on, gobble, gobble."

But it's not the line all by itself that makes this moment the cherry atop this dung-heap sundae of a movie that is nothing but bad moments. It's also the fact that Lopez is playing a lesbian -- one of those gorgeous, male-fantasy movie lesbians who just needed the right man to straighten her out.

And it's also the idea that this "right man" for a straight-curious, street-smart sappho could be an angry, dimwitted mook and inept mob-enforcer, played by Affleck with a New Jersey accent (even though the character grew up in southern California) and the stink of churlish masculinity that comes from over-active testosterone glands and beer-deadened brain cells.

Perhaps the wholly artificial Affleck was cast based on the fact that in 1996's "Chasing Amy" he'd successfully romanced another lesbian -- but at least the girl in that movie was conflicted about changing teams. Lopez's character just flops on her back, seduced by the 15-watt personality power of Affleck's grossly affected swagger.

Written and directed by Martin Brest, whose last outing was the equally unbearable "Meet Joe Black," the romance revolves around these two opposing personalities being assigned to keep an eye on each other as they kidnap the mentally disabled brother of a district attorney and threaten harm to the kid (Justin Bartha, whose performance is straight out of a community theater rendition of "Rain Man") if charges aren't dropped against their boss's capo.

Not the least bit believable as underworld thugs to begin with (when Lopez threatens to gouge somebody's eyes out, it's more cute than intimidating), the pair are soon charmed as much by their autistic charge as they are by each other. When orders come down to cut off his thumb and mail it to the uncooperative DA, Gigli (Affleck) and Ricki (Lopez) go soft. They substitute a cadaver's digit (apparently they're unfamiliar with the concept of fingerprints), and land themselves in hot water with the mobster and a quirky local cop (played by Al Pacino and Christopher Walken respectively, in enjoyably idiosyncratic one-scene performances that show the movie's stars for the lightweights they really are).

So dumb that he gets into arguments with his mentally challenged victim over perceived insults stemming from Tourette's Syndrome, it's no wonder that Gigli was assigned a minder. But while Ricki, with her bouncy hair and skin-tight hip huggers, is supposed to be the smart, cool-headed one on this job (she quotes "The Art of War" and makes amateur psychiatric diagnoses), it never crosses her mind that maybe Gigli's apartment isn't the best place to keep a kidnapee or that maybe taking him out in public for lunch might draw unwanted attention.

How these two clowns each got their alleged criminal reputations is one of the great mysteries of "Gigli." The other is whether the movie could have been redeemed at all by its original ending in which Gigli was killed. The rejection by happy-ending-conditioned test audiences led to re-shoots and a major overhaul in the editing room.

The word on the industry grapevine is that the lesbian angle has been played down as a result, which may account for the gauche seduction scenes ("gobble, gobble" is preceded by a jog-bra and short-shorts-clad Lopez giving a tasteless speech about the joys of the female genitalia while striking sexually suggestive yoga positions) and the sunsets-and-saccharine plot detour in the last reel that is accompanied by an nauseating, overbearing chorus-of-angels musical score.

But even if Brest's best, first cut of "Gigli" didn't include the fence-jumping romance or the not-played-for-laughs ineptitude of the kidnappers -- and even if it avoided every plot hole and platitude -- the flimsy, tedious performances don't reflect any spark of life or any hint of the so-called chemistry that reportedly lead to of Affleck (who comes across as a Travolta-from-Get Shorty" wannabe) and Lopez (who has had more depth in music videos) falling in love on the set.

Since these two have another big screen pairing waiting in the wings (Kevin Smith's "Jersey Girl"), here's hoping that this fiasco is somehow entirely the fault of the director, because at this point I think I'd rather suffer through last week's pandering, soft-pitch Dateline NBC special about the couple than watch them lurch and stagger through another two hours of screen amour.

  

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39. "they like bonecrusher, but they're not that dumb."
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Gigli:F

Verdict: So bad it verges on the legendary.

http://www.accessatlanta.com/movies/content/shared/movies/gigli.html

"Gigli" makes "Hudson Hawk" look like a hiccup, "Ishtar" like a minor misstep. It’s the stuff "Mystery Science Theater 3000s" are made of.

Before it opened, it was infamous for being the movie that spawned L'Affaire Jennifer Lopez/Ben Affleck. Now that it’s arrived at the multiplex, it can be judged for what it is: a disaster of spectacular proportions.

Larry Gigli (Affleck) is a lunkheaded mob enforcer with an unpronounceable name ("It rhymes with ‘really,’" he keeps saying). His new assignment is to kidnap the younger brother of a federal judge who has the power to put some crooked New York-based mob boss away for life. Next thing you know, we're in a bargain-basement version of "Rain Man." The brother, Brian (Justin Bartha), is a brain-damaged kid, irritating but a sweetheart, and as obsessed with "Baywatch" as Dustin Hoffman was with BlueLight Specials.

Gigli takes Brian to his apartment for safekeeping. That's when Ricki (Lopez) - not her real name - shows up. She's a hot-chick hit woman and has been sent to baby-sit Gigli in case something goes wrong. Which has got to be the flimsiest excuse for a plot turn in recent memory. (But, then, things get flimsier. . . .)

As far back as Aristophanes, romantic comedies have needed obstacles to work. It used to be traditional notions of women's sexuality - no sex before marriage, etc. - were obstacle enough. But in the wake of birth control, women in the workplace, and a shifting social climate, that no longer works. Thus, the obstacles have become increasingly far-fetched - opposite coasts in "Sleepless in Seattle," or a wedding planner falling in love with the groom-to-be in Lopez's "The Wedding Planner." The roadblock in "Gigli" is that Ricki is a happy lesbian and even a sex god like, um, Gigli may not be able to sway her.

Please.

The movie is airless and inane. You feel suffocated by scenes that have no weight. For instance, Gigli and Ricki drop by his mother's (Lainie Kazan) for some spurious non-reason. The real reason, of course, is so director Martin Brest can have a scene in which Mom gives her blessings to lesbianism, yet encourages the idea that lesbians can go both ways when the right fella comes along. (All the while, Kazan eyes J. Lo like a whale courting a piece of plankton.) And whatever chemistry Lopez and Affleck have in real life curdles on-screen. Watching him try to distract her sexually while she's reading a book is embarrassing. Think: Winnie the Pooh coming on to Catherine Zeta-Jones.

Lopez is the only one who gets out of this alive - and even so, she's pretty badly maimed after delivering a sexual-politics monologue while doing some sort of exercise/meditation that must've been culled from the Kama Sutra.

The script, written by Brest of "Scent of a Woman" infamy, gives her zilch, so Lopez falls back on her diva power, in all its tawny sexuality and ferocious me-ness. She gives you something to watch, even if it’s something you'd prefer not to see.

Christopher Walken stumbles through a small scene, trying to charge a superfluous character with some kind of oomph. And just when you think things can't possibly get any worse, Al Pacino shows up in a performance so ripely hammy you half expect him to turn into a pork rind.

Finally, there's Affleck. Matt's Ben. Gwyneth's Ben. Now, J. Lo’s Ben. Ben, who has the blockiest head in movies next to Ted Danson, James Van Der Beek, and Boris Karloff as Frankenstein's Monster. The Affleck effect is akin to a black hole, sucking all the energy and life out of every scene he's in. Somewhere along an L.A. expressway, he's lost the dexterity, the self-deprecating sense of humor he had in earlier movies like "Chasing Amy" or even "Changing Lanes."

One recurring metaphor Gigli employs for the battle of the sexes, gay or straight, is that it all comes down to bulls (him) and cows (her). Maybe that explains why "Gigli" is such a pile of manure.

  

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'Gigli' not all it's cracked up to be (EDIT:is that a bad thing?)

Gigli:2.5/5 Stars

http://www.sunnews.com/entertain/movies2003/movies073103.htm

Yes, "Gigli," is the infamous first movie to feature Hollywood's power couple, Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck. It certainly will be negatively devoured just for that fact.

Does it deserve the backlash? Well, yes, it does, though it's not a complete disaster. There are a few chuckles and these two soon-to-be-marrieds manage to flash a hint of chemistry.

Even with that, "Gigli" is simply a mediocre movie released at the wrong time. Normally, a flick like this would slide in and out of theaters unnoticed, then pop up on cable and home video before settling for its eventual and inevitable fade into obscurity.

Now, it's an event picture, a curiosity — but for all the wrong reasons. Maybe some would find it great if it was a total stinkeroo, watching the overhyped stars take a big fall. On the other hand, it would have been a nice surprise if, despite the odds, the film was surprisingly grand.

It's neither. This is simply J.Lo and that Affleck guy sleepwalking through another mundane romantic comedy, only this time, it's about two cute underworld types.

The twist here is that Ricki (Lopez, sexy as always) is gay and Gigli (Affleck, playing the Vinnie Barbarino type) is a little challenged by that.

You know the drill. Though the pair are in unseemly jobs, they're really sweet kids at heart.

Yes, they've threatened people. Yes, they've kidnapped a mentally challenged teen who's the younger brother of a federal prosecutor. Yes, they have orders to cut off one of his fingers.

But, c'mon, Ricki and Gigli are such an adorable pair that you know they'll do the right thing.

Had they done the wrong thing, this could have been a more intriguing and darker tale. Evil people can fall in love, too . . . but, gosh, this isn't that movie. Ben and Jen are just too cute for nasty roles like that.

  

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41. "newsflash:j.lo/affleck unconvincing. wha?"
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J.Lo plays a lesbian;Affleck plays dumb-but they're no less unconvincing than the rest of this mafia flop.

http://www.seattleweekly.com/features/0331/film-gigli.php

IN ONE OF THE MANY interminable, static monologues that accrue oh so slowly, like protracted snowfalls adding up to an ice age, to form the movie Gigli (which opens Friday, Aug. 1, at Meridian and other theaters), improbable gangster Ricki (Jennifer Lopez) tells improbable gangster Larry Gigli (Ben Affleck) that penises resemble sea slugs. She's explaining why she's a lesbian, impervious to Gigli's stumblebum, can't-shoot-straight charm. If he were smart, he'd reply, "At least my chin dimple resembles a vagina!" But he's dumb, and so is Affleck's clumsy, actorly attempt to portray a dumb gangster.
I suppose penises do resemble sea slugs, but not as much as this movie does. Weighed down by the couple's off-screen romantic celebrity, a burden as crushing as a mile's worth of seawater, Gigli inches determinedly along to its foregone, and woebegone, lesbian-sellout conclusion. Ricki and Gigli first meet because their boss, Louis (Lenny Venito, who resembles an underbaked Joe Pantoliano), orders Gigli to kidnap a federal prosecutor's improbably retarded brother, Brian (promising newcomer Justin Bartha), to blackmail the prosecutor into dropping charges against their mob über-boss (Al Pacino). Ricki is sent to make sure screwup Gigli doesn't screw up the job.

Most of the movie consists of Ricki and Gigli improbably, flirtatiously squabbling while baby-sitting Brian. Brian's retardation is hokum, but it gives his character some real appeal. His lonely lifelong quest to join the babes of Baywatch in erotic frolic on the beach provides a measure of poignancy, jarring amid Gigli's soulless, inhuman expanse of faux emotion. In this context, Brian is like a less believable, more sentimental, less annoying version of Dustin Hoffman's Rain Man. Maybe this is an in-joke: Gigli director Martin Brest made the excellent 1988 Midnight Run, once associated with Hoffman, whose involvement caused the project to morph into two separate movies, Midnight Run and Barry Levinson's Oscar-winning Rain Man. So now Brest finally gets his own damn Rain Man.

Yet while Rain Man was all about Hoffman's tics and ego, Gigli is about Affleck attempting to melt Lopez's frozen clam with repeated gusts of macho hot air. He extols the sea slug; she extols the jelly roll while doing yoga stretches that are supposed to drive us wild with desire but drive us wild with boredom, and their ultimate hookup is no less dull. I can't recall an action film with less action—erotic, comic, or gangsterish. Given one brief scene each, not even Pacino or Christopher Walken (as a detective) can enliven their stupid, pointless, improbable monologues. Calamitously, director Brest couldn't fire the writer of this Tarantino pastiche, because Brest is also the film's writer.

Gigli's nadir comes when Ricki scares some high-school kids into turning down their boom box by telling them—in yet another long, improbable monologue—about an Asian martial art known as "the rip that takes the past." She claims to know how to rip out people's eyes so fast that all their visual memory is yanked out, too. You'll walk out of Gigli wishing for the rip that takes the past two hours.

  

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42. "I'm downloading it"
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I HAVE to see this movie

  

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59. "kinda like what jerry said on seinfeld"
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This isn't plans one thru eight. It's Plan Nine! The worst movie EVER made!

>I HAVE to see this movie

i expect a review then.

  

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139. "I'm having difficutly downloading it"
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>This isn't plans one thru eight. It's Plan Nine! The worst
>movie EVER made!

Yes exactly!

I've downloaded 6 different versions and I keep getting blanks. Funny thing is that this rarely happens. All the films out there being downloaded and THIS is the one they're protecting??

Must have something to do with that "dont download films" commercial with Afleck

I'll keep trying and I'll be back with a review

BTW I commend you on this post ricky. ...really I do

  

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140. "thanks"
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>I've downloaded 6 different versions and I keep getting
>blanks. Funny thing is that this rarely happens. All the
>films out there being downloaded and THIS is the one they're
>protecting??

one word/no clue: HOLLYWOOD

>I'll keep trying and I'll be back with a review

looking forward to it.

>BTW I commend you on this post ricky. ...really I do

thanks. there were thirty new reviews when i checked the computer this morning. i almost threw up the white flag. but gigli will never win . . .

  

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I really did. I downloaded at least 20 different versions and no cigar.

My apologies ricky

  

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43. "Four Stars!!!!! Sike. LOL"
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Gigli:1/4 Stars

Hitting a new Lo
Ben & Jen are crass & crasser in lame mob comedy

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/movies/moviereviews/story/105317p-95218c.html

"Gigli" is a disaster.

Although Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez fell in love while making this crude black comedy, which opens tomorrow, they play unappetizing characters who deserve each other only because no one else would have them.

The one thing the movie has going for it is, as my dearly departed grandmother might have observed of J.Lo, "That girl's kishkes are hanging out!"

She would have used the Yiddish slang for guts to account for the copious amount of bare flesh that pours from Lopez's low-rider jeans as she portrays a supposedly deadly mob enforcer. (Where does she pack her gun?)

But like the stuffed-intestine delicacy by the same name, "Gigli" clearly has been chopped and re-formed in a vain attempt to appeal to a fan base that craves a Cinderella story.

The impending nuptials of Lopez and Affleck lead the public to expect a romantic comedy with a happily-ever-after ending. However, the script, by writer-director-producer Martin Brest, looks as if it began life as a crime drama with a heart.

It has since morphed into a comedy without a pulse.

Affleck plays Larry Gigli (rhymes, as he often tells people, with "really"), a caricature of a low-level goombah. Under instructions, he has kidnapped a federal judge's younger brother in an attempt to influence the outcome of a mob trial.

Lopez plays a thug-ette named Ricki who helps Larry baby-sit the kidnap victim, a mildly autistic lad who dials up Australian weather reports and who wants to visit "the Baywatch," an idea of heaven on earth he got from the TV show, because "I think that's where the sex is."

In a "Rain Man" sort of way, the boy grows on his two kidnappers, and we know this because the music on the soundtrack inappropriately soars and swells as if willing the audience to melt in tears.

When Larry and Ricki are instructed by a crime boss to cut off the kid's thumb as evidence of how much they are not to be trifled with, the two realize they're not cut out for a gangland career after all. A ridiculous and unamusing sequence ensues as Larry carves a substitute thumb off a stiff at the morgue.

Romantic comedies must offer the main couple an obstacle to overcome, and "Gigli" has one that would appear to be a deal-breaker: Ricki prefers women.

She not only prefers them, she rhapsodizes over their body parts in unflinching detail.

Even if Ricki weren't a lesbian, she is clearly disgusted by all things Larry. She sneers at him and lampoons him for proclaiming things like, "In every relationship, there is a bull and a cow."

In this relationship, there is also a turkey.

When Ricki finally dares Larry to show his stuff in bed, the resulting sequence could charitably be called a mercy mission.

Two cameo appearances in "Gigli" are so odd and gratuitous, we're just going to pretend they never happened.

One involves Christopher Walken, who deconstructs his dialogue into component words and then delivers them in some sort of salute to Kafka.

The other involves Al Pacino, who is under the misconception that he is in a decibel contest.

Thanks to a new ending that was tacked on to increase its shelf life, "Gigli" offers an amazing cure for homosexuality. How could scientists, shrinks and lesbians everywhere have missed this?

The cure is … Ben Affleck!

Something about him makes lesbians want to "hop the fence." What could that be?

It is surely not his acting ability.


Save $10 & your dignity


There are so many bad moments in "Gigli," it's a shame to single out only a few. But so you will be able to talk about the movie without actually having to see it, here are just some the worst offenders:

LAINIE KAZAN'S BUTT: Larry Gigli has to give his loudmouth mother an injection (insulin, maybe?) and grabs her butt cheeks in full, dismaying closeup.

"BABY GOT BACK": The autistic boy Larry has kidnapped likes to learn the lyrics of rap songs, even though he doesn't understand them. Hence, he bursts out with: "I like big butts and I cannot lie!"

GOBBLE GOBBLE: Here's the start of the big sex scene: Confirmed lesbian Ricki lies back on the bed with her legs spread and instructs Larry: "Turkey time! Gobble, gobble!"

DOWN DOG: J.Lo demonstrates her yogic expertise on a sticky mat, where she goes through a lot of demanding, revealing contortions while explaining in clinical detail why her character loves the female body and detests a certain male part, which is "like a slug."

FRIGHTENING NEMO: After a gangster shoots a hole through the head of one of his lackeys, the blood and brain matter spill into a nearby fishtank, where the fishies begin to nibble.

WRIST-SLICING FOR FUN: When Ricki's lesbian lover pitches a fit and slashes her wrists, the scene is edited for comic potential.

  

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44. "all these reviews look the same, just different fonts"
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Gigli: 1/4 stars

http://metromix.chicagotribune.com/movies/mmx-030731movies-review-mc-gigli,0,955679.story

"Gigli" rhymes with "really," we're told twice in the movie of the same name, and it begins with a "zs" sound, as in "Zsa Zsa." It's the last name of Ben Affleck's dese-dem-dose thug character, Larry Gigli. People mispronounce it. He corrects them. Why he has a French-sounding last name is anyone's guess. We never hear doodley about his background. It's just one of those pointless, random details.

Put together enough pointless, random details, and you get "Gigli," a movie that's less incompetent than bewildering. How on earth did writer-director Martin Brest ("Meet Joe Black," "Scent of a Woman") envision this movie? As "Chasing Amy" meets "Rain Man" meets "Pulp Fiction"? Did someone think that sounded like a winning combination?

Mind you, we're not talking about the best parts of those movies -- just the most incongruous. Try this on: "Gigli" is the heartwarming, talky tale of a mob henchman who falls for the curvaceous lesbian hired to keep an eye on him while he guards the mentally challenged young guy he's kidnapped so his boss can extort a federal prosecutor.

When toughie Larry talks to his scruffy boss, Louis (Lenny Venito), or the older man he strong-arms by trapping inside a Laundromat dryer, every other word starts with an "f." Larry's introduction to his watchdog colleague Ricki (Jennifer Lopez) is a similarly foul-mouthed encounter as she reduces him from strutting peacock to roasted fowl.

But soon the would-be couple's conversations resemble rambling therapy sessions prescribed by Dr. Phil. Ricki points out that Larry seems sad. Larry just doesn't get that whole lesbian thing. Larry champions the penis. Ricki compares it to a big toe. And so on.

Then there's Brian (Justin Bartha), one of those mentally challenged young people that movies like to portray as innocent man-children rather than three-dimensional human beings. Bartha apparently has downloaded Dustin Hoffman's "Rain Man" performance; he's got the agitated muttering and blurted non sequiturs down cold. And when he smiles, Brest never fails to thrust the camera right up to his face. At such moments, the orchestral score becomes coated in so much syrup, it could open its own IHOP franchise.

Brian, who never seems to register that he's been kidnapped, keeps insisting that Larry take him to "the Baywatch"-- not the TV show but some actual place, because in Larry's mind, "I think that's where the sex is." Will Brian reach this destination? Will we be treated to the sight of him shaking his groove thang on a beach amid bikini-clad women? I wouldn't dream of spoiling the suspense.

Nor will I tell you what happens when Louis orders Larry and Ricki to chop off Brian's thumb as a signal that the kidnappers mean business. Such a development might trigger actual tension in a movie that traded in authentic emotions rather than blatantly manufactured ones. In "Gigli," which introduces its main characters as hard-bitten criminals and then spends the rest of the time trying to convince you how lovable they are, the device just feels cheap, like the famous National Lampoon "Buy this magazine or we'll shoot this dog" cover played straight.

Not an unskilled writer, Brest has crafted some scenes that might play well if excised from the whole. In one, Ricki offers a literate, if typically raunchy, explanation of the difference between "sure" and "yes." In another, Christopher Walken provides the movie's first (and just about only) laughs as a police detective who pops into Larry's apartment with the air of someone who can't remember which body part itches. He suspects Larry had something to do with Brian's disappearance but would be content to blame the job on space aliens.

That's the last we see of the detective, which is odd given that anyone at Brian's institution should have been able to describe Larry. But Brest conveniently ignores real-life logic even as he expects us to accept "Gigli" as a serious character study.

You never lose awareness that you're watching something written -- preciously, most of the time -- as opposed to something that actually happened. Nary a note rings true.

Ricki's lesbianism is portrayed as nothing deeper than a preference for blonds over brunets. Larry's just not her type -- at least until the plot requires her to reconsider. The movie also suggests that Larry might by sexually confused, but this possibility is given such superficial treatment, it must be there strictly for laughs -- not that they ever come.

Affleck already grappled with love for a lesbian in "Chasing Amy." The difference here is a significant drop-off in IQ points. Affleck plays Larry Gigli like Edward Burns on stupid pills. Lopez is the more natural star here, thanks to her radiant smile and general ease in front of the camera, even if they rarely connect with a coherent character.

Al Pacino's hammy cameo (an almost redundant phrase by now) is indicative of what's wrong with "Gigli." Pacino's mob honcho is supposed to be menacing, but he's just full of gas -- he should watch Dustin Hoffman in "Confidence" for a far funnier, creepier spin on a similar role. You sense the actor and filmmaker straining to be … what's that annoying word? … edgy. The result is as convincing as Pat Boone covering NWA songs.

"Gigli" is a movie in which fish feast on brains that have been blown into an aquarium (the bullet would've shattered the tank, but never mind), a mentally challenged boy yearns for beach babes, and cutesy thugs argue over who's the bull and who's the cow in their relationship, even though the woman requests a sexual act by saying, "It's turkey time. Gobble, gobble."

She said it.

  

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45. "cnn:really,really bad. finally they're not so dramatic"
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Review: 'Gigli' is really, really bad
It's better than 'Swept Away,' for what it's worth

http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Movies/07/31/sprj.cas03.review.gigli/index.html

OK, so "Gigli" is not the worst film in years. That dubious title still goes to "Swept Away," or maybe "Freddy Got Fingered." But "Gigli" is still a huge waste of celluloid.

In Hollywood, it's all about "what have you done lately," and despite such successes as "Scent of a Woman," "Midnight Run" and "Beverly Hills Cop," writer/director/producer Martin Brest has done nothing that can make up for this ill-conceived mess.

If miscasting was a crime, this movie would be proof of a felony. Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez fit their characters like a glove -- if the glove in question belonged to O.J. Simpson.

Affleck plays a low-level mob enforcer named Larry Gigli (pronounced like "really") assigned to kidnap a mentally challenged young man, Brian (think Raymond in "Rainman"), played amazingly well by Justin Bartha in his feature film debut. Affleck's real-life lady love, Lopez (they met during the filming of this movie), plays Ricki, another mob enforcer hired to keep an eye on Gigli.

Insult upon insult
It seems Brian's brother is a powerful federal prosecutor who is after a mob boss, played by Al Pacino. The plan is for the prosecutor to drop the charges against the gangster in order to get his brother back safe and sound.

Say what? In what universe?

Of course, Ricki and Larry fight like cats and dogs and hate each other from the get-go -- a sure sign that they'll be under the sheets by the second reel. And they are, despite the fact that Ricki is a lesbian.

Yes, ladies and gentlemen, Ben Affleck, who already did this in "Chasing Amy," is at it again. He's become "Benny the lesbian changer," the new secret weapon for the religious right. In all fairness, the ending was changed at the last minute after massive negative audience reactions in test screenings. This, however, is only the final insult after a film full of them.

There were obviously many changes made during the making of this cinematic train wreck. The story is all over the place: there is one really strange scene with Christopher Walken playing a cop, and then we never see him again. He's on the cutting room floor.

Wishing he were there too is Pacino, who appears in only one embarrassing scene.

Beyond the cringe
But the most award for the most cringe-inducing moment goes to Lopez, for a scene in which she stretches out on the floor in every sexual position known to man while debating the pros and cons of female and male anatomy. I know, it sounds hot on paper, doesn't it?

The bad guy characters become good guys with no motivation, nor any visible cause or effect. None of the scenes seem to be connected to each other in any way; the entire film feels like it was edited on an assembly line, without feeling for rhythm or nuance.

At one point, Ricki's lesbian lover breaks into their "hideout" and tries to commit suicide. After comforting her in the hospital, Ricki runs back and jumps in the sack with the "lesbian changer." This is a comedy?

Brest showed such great promise in the 1980s with hit after hit, as mentioned above. Then, in 1998, he gave us "Meet Joe Black." Now he's given us "Gigli." He should remember that California is a "three strikes and you're out" state for criminal offenders.

  

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gigli .5/4 stars
J-Lo gobbled up in turkey 'Gigli'

http://www.startribune.com/stories/1553/4017735.html

If you thought you could never, ever feel sorry for Jennifer Lopez, buy a ticket to "Gigli."

Imagine starring in a film so excruciating that it won't sink quietly, but rather be relentlessly scrutinized and critiqued and debated and autopsied. Imagine delivering a performance so out of tune with reality that it will inspire public mockery for years to come.

Now imagine that this doomed project requires you to speak these lines of dialogue, in a love scene, no less: "It's turkey time. Gobble, gobble."

In "Gigli," Lopez, her leading man, Ben Affleck, and all concerned have sailed into a perfect storm of cinematic awfulness, a lightweight romantic comedy with a bloody suicide attempt, a brain-spattered fish tank and a thumb sawed off with a plastic spoon. It's a Rob Reiner movie for psychopaths.

Affleck plays Larry Gigli, a lower-echelon mobster in Los Angeles. Larry is presented as a lovable eccentric and a soft touch. His idea of strong-arming a debtor is threatening him with a long ride in a commercial clothes dryer. If the chumps can't come up with all the money they owe, Larry allows them to live and finish the payoff another day.

His indignant superior, Louis (hawk-eyed Lenny Venito), considers him a bumbler. In the first of many mind-warping implausibilities, he assigns Larry to handle a crucial kidnapping.

The target is Brian (Justin Bartha), the brain-damaged teenage brother of a federal prosecutor. Brian has the sort of jokey movieland retardation that can be easily handled with a bit of good humor, patience and an occasional raised voice. The boy quickly becomes a comically troublesome surrogate child for Larry.

To make sure that Larry doesn't louse up his mission, Louis assigns a second, tougher enforcer to keep an eye on him. He dispatches Ricki (Lopez) to move into his one-bedroom apartment. Like most mob thugs, she wears belly shirts and skintight hip-huggers that would make a stripper blush.

She explains that Larry's not her type -- she prefers girls -- but the point is raised as a kooky romantic-comedy hurdle that can be quickly cleared with a little sharing and cajoling. One of Ricki's former lovers bursts onto the scene and slits her wrists in an attempt to win her back, a jarring sequence that throws the film's uneven emotional architecture further out of whack.

Of course, two major stars, male and female, must follow the laws of film and fall in love despite all obstacles. Affleck has converted lesbians before, working his irresistible magic on Joey Lauren Adams in 1997's "Chasing Amy."

Soon Larry, Ricki and Brian settle into a mock-nuclear family. Larry tutors the shy, stuttering Brian, who has blossomed under his influence, on how to pick up chicks. It all ends with a bikini-beach-party dance sequence.

Ick, ick and ick, people. Soft-brained and inhumanly dull, "Gigli" has no pace, no drive, none of the dark animal vitality that might have made this tasteless material a guilty pleasure.

Only in two brief scenes does it flicker to life. Early on, Christopher Walken does his funny-creepy thing as a sarcastic cop. At this point, it dawns on the viewer that there are still 100 minutes to go. Later, Al Pacino dusts off his spittle-flecked rage shtick as an apoplectic Mafioso, and the film again rises from dormancy -- momentarily.

Lopez and Affleck are all the dimmer when they share the screen with real stars. Walken sums it up when he regards Affleck with a pie-eyed gaze and says, "You don't know nuthin'. I can tell by lookin' at ya."

You said it, Chris.

What works: The theater exit.

What doesn't: Don't get me started.

Great line: Yeah, right.

  

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47. "enter semi-clever quip here. still sucks."
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Gigli: 1.5/5 stars
'Gigli': Warm, fuzzy thugs fall flat

http://ae.charlotte.com/entertainment/ui/charlotte/movie.html?id=107733&reviewId=12746

Half an hour into "Gigli," writer-director Martin Brest cruelly raises our hopes. Christopher Walken slinks onscreen, darting his iguana eyes around Ben Affleck's apartment and chattering quietly and darkly about alien abductions. After five minutes, he vanishes. We wait vainly for the next 90 minutes for someone, anyone to bring that kind of danger, unpredictability and vitality to a story as drab as army fatigues.

Martin Brest crafted "Gigli" as a vehicle for Affleck and Jennifer Lopez, who play minor thugs Larry and Ricki with surprising lack of connection for real-life lovebirds. Brest tries to get sparks to fly between them, but it's like rubbing together pieces of plastic to make a fire. That's not all their fault, since his dialogue is a soup of cliches, profanities and sex talk most of us heard in high school.

Larry, the Gigli of the title - which rhymes with "really," as he tells people over and over - is a low-level debt collector in Los Angeles. His boss, Louie (Lenny Venito in a menacing turn), tells him to kidnap the mentally disabled brother of a federal prosecutor and hold the kid hostage until the fed drops charges against a mob kingpin. Because Louie doesn't think Gigli's competent, he also hires Ricki to baby-sit. (If Louie thinks Larry will botch the job, why not just use the woman?)

The hostage, obsessive Brian (Justin Bartha), is a cute Rain Man with none of the math skills or drawbacks. He leaves the group home where he lives without protest, stays quiet whenever he might endanger the kidnappers (though he can't shut up at other times), suffers interruptions in beloved routines without complaint. After his Tourette's syndrome makes its "comic" effect, he miraculously stops cursing.

But miracles come easily to "Gigli." Larry and Ricki fall in love, despite her avowal of lesbianism. Larry's mom (Lainie Kazan) doesn't seem to notice that Brian is mentally disabled on his visit to her house, or wonder why her son is ferrying the kid around. Ricki's deranged ex-lover (Missy Crider) threatens to kill herself and Larry, then blithely departs.

With John Powell's twinkly, saccharine musical cues reminding us what to feel, characters bounce toward the obligatory happy ending, which in this case is as likely as a manned landing on the sun. The movie never asks itself the obvious question: How did the kindly, self-aware Ricki become a presumed killer?

She's sympathetic because she quotes Chinese philosophers, reads books about inner peace and diagnoses Larry's stunted emotional growth. Yet she has no edge, no meanness; she's about as dangerous as an angleworm. Brest never resolves this conflict or explains adequately why she's drawn to Larry the likeable lout.

Brest gets credit for writing an ending that shouldn't lead to a sequel and for keeping "Gigli" an hour shorter than his last snore-a-thon, "Meet Joe Black." He gets no points for using Al Pacino (who won an Oscar in his "Scent of a Woman") as the mob boss.

Pacino, fey and ponytailed and roaring like a wind tunnel, is the anti-Walken. He rants through a monologue about human thumbs - are they fingers or merely digits? - before blowing out someone's brains, as Brest offers a close-up of a fish nibbling a blob of gray matter. Together, Pacino and Walken prove ham is only palatable when served on wry.

  

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65. "RE: enter semi-clever quip here. still sucks."
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ah shit. Lawrence Toppman.

  

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48. "who the hell is eric d. snider? he's right."
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Gigli Grad

http://www.ericdsnider.com/view.php?mrkey=1695

We knew Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez could make bad movies separately, but “Gigli” demonstrates that, in a true example of synergy at work, their combined efforts can generate even more badness.

Larry Gigli (pronounced “Gee-lee”) is the name of Affleck’s character, a Jersey-born mid-level thug who works for mid-level crime boss Louis (Lenny Venito) in Los Angeles. Larry’s latest assignment is to kidnap the mentally handicapped younger brother of a federal prosecutor who’s been making trouble for Louis’ boss, in the hopes of getting the guy to play ball.

But since Larry has a penchant for screwing up Louis’ assignments, he is given a partner to keep an eye on him. She is Ricki (Jennifer Lopez), a stunning woman whose clothing always accentuates her greatest asset, who is extremely well-read and knowledgeable about psychology, and who also is a lesbian. This frustrates the ultra-macho Larry, who can’t conceive of a woman unwilling to sleep with him, let alone one smarter than he is.

And so they hole up in Larry’s apartment, taking care of the kidnapped Brian (Justin Bartha) and awaiting instructions from Louis while Larry makes irritating attempts at converting Ricki.

As you can see, the film is already fraught with peril. Ben and J-Lo have their various charms, but neither is much good at acting. Consequently, Affleck is not convincing as a Jersey tough-guy, and not once did I believe Lopez as a lesbian, a hired thug, or a person who knows big words. The acting is not bad, per se, just wrong. More blame should be placed on the director, Martin Brest ("Meet Joe Black”), for miscasting his leads, or on the writer, who is also Martin Brest, for penning such pointless, meandering dialogue.

There is also the matter of having a mentally handicapped character featured so prominently. Bartha’s performance does not cross over into “making fun” territory, but it does teeter awkwardly on the line between being funny and being sad. One doesn’t know how to react to him, which often makes viewing the film uncomfortable.

Taken as a whole, though, the presence of a difficult character is the least of this film’s problems. This is a movie that manages to keep finding new ways of being stupid, from the forced (and rather insulting) romance between Larry and Ricki, to their crass conversation about the relative values of the male and female genitalia, to the hilarious way soft music cues indicate when we’re supposed to be touched by Brian’s innocence, to Al Pacino’s one-scene foray into outrageous over-acting (a realm he is not unfamiliar with, of course). I will also mention a brief glimpse of Lainie Kazan’s thong-clad rear end.

On a more positive note, there a brief appearance by the ever-insane Christopher Walken, who brightens any film merely by entering it.

In the end, “Gigli” wants us to feel good, but that is hopeless. The plot is minimal, leaving us to watch the characters just sit around being themselves -- a bad thing, since they’re all either dull or unlikable. This is a movie all about relationships and connections between people, and none of the relationships or connections come across believably. I hope Ben and J-Lo are doing a better job relating to each other in real life, or else there’s serious trouble ahead.

  

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49. "the bay area even thinks it's gay"
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don't be offended. laugh.

Ben-J.Lo hype notwithstanding, 'Gigli' is heinous

http://ae.bayarea.com/entertainment/ui/bayarea/movie.html?id=107733&reviewId=12762

Despite our best intentions to stay pure, unsullied and open-minded about "Gigli," the advance buzz was so vehement and widespread that, short of a six-month stint in a nunnery, it was nigh impossible not to have heard that the movie was awful prior to seeing it.

Awful can be enticing in its own way, especially if it lends itself to camp such as the infamous "Showgirls." But this Ben Affleck-Jennifer Lopez love story is also painfully dull and remarkably tasteless. In short, it's no fun at all.

In the worst performance of his career, Affleck plays Larry Gigli, the least attractive character in the world, a two-bit hood who acts as an enforcer for bad guy Louis (Lenny Venito), the least believable crime boss in movie history. Louis and Gigli's primary form of communication, both with each other and everyone else, is a certain swear word referencing the sex act.

It's so overused in "Gigli" that it may have a negative-stimulus "Clockwork Orange"-like effect on anyone who sees this movie, literally scaring the expletive impulse out of us.

Louis assigns Gigli (rhymes with really) a big job, kidnapping the mentally challenged brother of a federal prosecutor who has the goods on some mob bigwig from New York. Here's where Gigli's stupidity really begins to show. He goes to a home for the disabled to pick up Brian (newcomer Justin Bartha). It is clear from Bartha's lousy "Rain Man" impression and incessant ramblings about "the Baywatch" (he's horny, isn't that cute?) that the character is mentally disabled. Yet Gigli spends the next 30 minutes mystified by Brian's disability and berating him like the neighborhood bully for it. His choice of abuse ranges from "What a moron" to "Why don't you act (expletive) normal for a minute?"

Why Martin Brest ("Scent of a Woman," "Midnight Run"), who wrote "Gigli" as well as directed it, would think any of this would make us find Affleck's character endearing is unfathomable. Gigli is a blowhard, has no discernible personality and an IQ that hovers dangerously close to Brian's. Still, we are supposed to believe that the other enforcer Louis hires to oversee this critical job, the sultry Ricki (Jennifer Lopez), will find something worthwhile inside this lout.

All Hollywood love stories must have obstacles, and Brest has assigned Ricki and Gigli's romance a doozy. Not only is Gigli a leering moron, but Ricki is a lesbian, or as he graciously puts it, "a stone cold dyke." She's pure male fantasy -- a scantily clad woman from the Sharon Stone school of lesbianism who enjoys flaunting herself in the faces of men everywhere and who will, eventually, put out for the "right" guy. I always felt Stone's character in "Basic Instinct" made a dubious choice in bestowing her favors on the cop played by Michael Douglas, whose butt was already saggy when she got to him. But Douglas looks like a dreamboat compared to Affleck's slack-jawed Gigli.

Brest clings to Lopez's spectacular good looks like a life preserver. Every peripheral character in "Gigli" is required to comment on Ricki's beauty, from Lainie Kazan, who gives a mortifying performance as Gigli's trashy, pink-thong-clad mother, to Al Pacino, who shows up late in the game as the New York mobster. (Presumably his shout-and-spit performance is meant to repay Brest the favor for that ill-gotten Oscar for "Scent of a Woman.") Christopher Walken salvages some dignity by merely cocking an eyebrow at Ricki's well-displayed gams during his brief and bizarre appearance as a clueless federal agent.

All this gratuitous Lopez worship is unlikely to do anything to dispel the diva image that plagues her so; she comes across as an actress who wouldn't know what to do with a role that didn't rely on her beauty. Which is very, very sad.

Your decision to see "Gigli" really depends on how much you want to see Affleck and Lopez make out. Fair enough. Their love story has sold many a magazine. But a cautionary word: No matter how titillating that prospect is, sitting through the rest of this tasteless mess isn't worth it. That stomach-turning "Jenny From the Block" video has everything you need, and it's a good two hours shorter.

  

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50. "everyone is a critic, but no less accurate"
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Gigli 1.5/4 stars

http://www.filmcritic.com/misc/emporium.nsf/2a460f93626cd4678625624c007f2b46/b34d0aed88594b2888256d73007a80b5?OpenDocument

That deafening sound you hear is negative buzz. Gigli just opened, and already it has plenty. Early test screenings started it. The media fueled it. And the release of the film may finally conclude our on-going fascination with A-list celebrity couple Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez.

For those who never tune into E! (shame on you), here’s the backstory. Ben and Jen fell in love on the Gigli set. Fireworks off-screen, though, didn’t translate to chemistry on-screen, and the movie was shredded by test audiences. Columbia originally planned to open Gigli in November 2002, but hesitated and shelved the film until now, which usually signifies disaster.

The results aren’t as dire as expected, but they remain far from entertaining. Together, Affleck and Lopez have approximately six good movies to their names. Gigli isn’t one of them. Vulgar, insensitive and unaware of its direction, the split-personality character study wavers from mob drama to romantic comedy when it should’ve picked one and stuck with it.

Blame writer/director Martin Brest, who has helmed good movies in the past (Midnight Run, Scent of a Woman), but hasn’t written a script since 1979’s Going in Style. His rust coats Gigli like a suit of armor. There’s no rhythm to his putrid dialogue, no flow to his preposterous scenes. Conversations are loaded with sex talk, but devoid of heat. The movie occasionally builds momentum, but crass punch lines linger around every corner, ready to stop this train in its tracks.

The story centers on thug-for-hire Larry Gigli (Affleck), which rhymes with “really.” Petty mobster Louis (Lenny Venito) orders Gigli to kidnap Brian (Justin Bartha), the mentally disabled brother of a federal prosecutor. They hope to use their hostage as leverage in a case pending against their crime boss, Starkman (Al Pacino). But shortly after assigning Gigli to the kidnapping, Louis loses faith and sends in levelheaded Ricki (Lopez) for reinforcements.

Logic exits once Jenny from the block enters, and erratic character motivations raise more questions than answers. Why does Louis assign Gigli to such an important task if he doesn’t trust him? And what sours Louis on Gigli, who up until this point seems to be a bullheaded but loyal goon? The answer, while pat, is that Gigli needs Louis to be hostile so that Ricki can enter the picture and our cute couple can commence mugging.

As for the celebrated twosome, they labor through with heads held high but are constantly betrayed by Brest’s impractical script. Lopez diligently recites her loquacious lines about Zen living, but she’s not believable as a beauty with a brain, a pacifist packed into a denim mini-skirt. Affleck’s not sure whether to play for exaggerated laughs or straight-up intimidation. The script gives him no guidance, so he haphazardly tries both, whether it fits the mood of the current scene or not.

Newcomer Bartha sees Brian as a poor man’s version of Dustin Hoffman’s Rain Man character, but never amounts to more than a device. He periodically suffers from Tourette’s Syndrome, sporadically breaks out into old school rap songs like Sir Mix a Lot’s “Baby Got Back” (a J. Lo homage, no doubt), and dreams of living in the place where Baywatch is filmed. Brest’s incessant attempts to humiliate this character border on cruelty. Only the deliciously over-the-top cameos by Pacino and Christopher Walken snatch Gigli from the trash heap and give you two reasons to eventually watch this movie on HBO.

The rest is forgettable. Brest’s insufferable screenplay is rife with endless blow job references and ambiguous questions regarding Gigli’s heterosexuality. You’d think Affleck’s buddy Kevin Smith took a shot at the rewrites. Heck, if Jason Mewes had plugged himself into the Brian character and the action had shifted from Santa Monica to Red Bank, NJ, Gigli could have been a Smith movie.

Ironically, it’s Smith who has the most to lose over the Gigli backlash. Affleck and Lopez are set to star in the director’s forthcoming Jersey Girl, due out in February. Perhaps Ashton Kutcher will have married the Olsen Twins by then, though, and the world will have moved past the merger of Ben and Jen.

  

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51. "even st.paul has an opinion:it sucks"
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Gigli 1/4 stars
Misguided 'Gigli' just plain crummy

http://ae.twincities.com/entertainment/ui/twincities/movie.html?id=107733&reviewId=12755

Jennifer Lopez plays a lesbian in "Gigli," and Ben Affleck plays a heterosexual man, which means they have one thing in common: Both of them are in a crummy movie.

Gigli" is bad, but not as bad as the publicity would suggest, and at least it's bad in unique ways. Almost unremittingly crass, it nevertheless finds time for Lopez to deliver an improbably lovely speech about sex between women.

A misguided attempt to graft "The Sopranos" and "Rain Man" onto a romantic comedy, it nevertheless tries to do something fresh. And although it is condescending about both homosexuality and disabilities, it nevertheless — OK, there is no "nevertheless" for that one.

Buried beneath a lot of slop, there's an intriguing attempt to shake up the romantic-comedy formula: What if you made a movie that did more than pay lip service to the idea of the woman being in charge? What if she were the aggressive half of the couple, as is probably the case in about half the heterosexual relationships you could name?

You will probably read reviews that suggest the problems in "Gigli" (it's Affleck's character's name and it rhymes with "really") begin with Affleck and Lopez, but I disagree.

True, best supporting maniacs Christopher Walken and Al Pacino walk off with the acting honors, but Affleck's role is so unpleasant there's not much he can do other than squint likably to let us know redemption is on the way, which he does. Lopez has a more multidimensional part, and, although I don't think she's the ideal actress to play it, she's not awful.

If you want to talk awful, let's discuss the script, which treats being a lesbian as if it's roughly the same thing as being a blonde — sometimes Lopez is, sometimes she isn't (and who knows why, between this and "Chasing Amy," Affleck has now chosen two roles in which he attempts to "conquer" lesbians). Pair that with the film's offensive, dated notion that lesbians are more masculine than heterosexual women, and you've got yourself a set of gender attitudes that could have been scripted by Mamie Eisenhower.

The story isn't much better. Affleck and Lopez play low-level mobsters who flirt while kidnapping Brian, a young man with an unspecified impairment (he refers to himself as "brain-damaged"). This awkward situation gives the movie's music a chance to get mawkish every time Brian speaks, gives undiscriminating viewers a chance to "aw" at how adorable he is whenever it's convenient for the movie to make him adorable and gives the rest of us a chance to agree with a line Walken utters: "It's almost too stupid for the mind to grasp."

  

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52. "detroit: even the tigers aren't this bad"
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Gigli 1/4 Stars
Unfocused, badly acted 'Gigli' is irredeemable mess

http://ae.freep.com/entertainment/ui/michigan/movie.html?id=107733&reviewId=12767

The one positive thing that can be said about pessimism is that things are usually not as horrible as imagined. That cannot, however, be said about "Gigli," a movie even worse than had been rumored.

"Gigli" is not one of those projects that started with a good script only to be developed into sad submission by studio hacks. It is not a movie that has been sabotaged by its high-profile stars, Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez, or compromised, a la "Cleopatra," by any attraction that might have developed while the film was in production. It has not been ruined in post-production, though its original script has been trimmed and a more upbeat ending added after audiences at a test screening said they would have preferred a happier one, which test-screening audiences always do.

Nope. This is just an awful movie, period. It was probably pitched to studio executives as "Prizzi's Honor" meets "Rain Man," but it has none of the cutting wit of the former and none of the redeeming conviction of the latter.

Neither Affleck nor Lopez is the best Hollywood has to offer, but when they are working with decent scripts and good directors -- Affleck in "The Sum of All Fears," Lopez in "Out of Sight," for example -- they are both more than acceptable. "Gigli" is a film that begins badly and gets worse and worse, like someone who has been knocked unconscious in an accident and then bleeds to death because he gets no attention. When you leave the theater, you half-expect someone to be standing at the door apologizing and handing you your money back.

Now I'm going to tell you what this movie is about, so you may want to take a Tylenol. Affleck is the title character, an enforcer who is in the employ of a disagreeable middle-manager thug named Louis (Lenny Venito). Louis can't pronounce his enforcer's name, which, Gigli says as if he has said it a million times before, rhymes with "really." We expect this to be a running gag, but since it barely limps out of the gate, director Martin Brest doesn't press the issue.

Gigli's assignment is to kidnap a mentally troubled teenager from a care facility, which he does with alarming ease, and keep him hidden until the teenager's older federal prosecutor brother drops the charges against whoever hired Louis to hire Gigli to do the job.

The kid, whose name is Brian (Justin Bartha), not only repeats the same things over and over but also suffers from Tourette's syndrome. This greatly agitates Gigli, but before he can go too crazy, a woman named Ricki (Lopez) shows up and announces she has been hired by Louis to keep an eye on Gigli to make sure he doesn't screw up the job. Even though Gigli hates her on sight, he still wants to sleep with her, but she informs him he is not her type because he has a penis. She is a lesbian.

This revelation leads to a good deal of argument about which organ is more powerful, the penis or the vagina, none of which is even remotely amusing. While waiting for the prosecutor to crack, Ricki -- not her real name -- does yoga exercises that drive Gigli crazy, but then everything drives Gigli crazy, especially Brian, who doesn't like the food and insists on going to Baywatch, which he apparently believes to be a real place as opposed to a syndicated TV show.

I could tell you more about this movie, like the scene in which Gigli is browbeaten into going to see his mother, played by Lainie Kazan, and giving her a shot, which is made more convenient by the fact she is wearing a thong, which is not something I ever want to think about again.

I could tell you that the movie is almost two hours long and that much of that time is filled with people yelling, one of whom is Al Pacino, who shows up to shout in the same way he did in Brest's "Scent of a Woman," for which, for reasons I will never understand, he was rewarded with an Oscar.

I could also tell you that Christopher Walken shows up briefly and inexplicably as a cop, never to be seen again, and that when Gigli finally gets Ricki to, as he puts it, "jump the fence," in yet another plot turn I could not begin to comprehend, she is wearing a robe and we are not treated to even a flash of her famous rump.

Or I could just tell you that this is the most misbegotten movie I have seen all summer, which, considering "Hollywood Homicide" and "Alex and Emma," is an accomplishment of some sort, but not one I would want to witness again. Really: Rhymes with unbelievable.

  

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53. "when san jose says it's bad . . ."
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Gigli .5/4 Stars

With second `g' silent, 'Gigli' doesn't hit spot

http://ae.bayarea.com/entertainment/ui/bayarea/movie.html?id=107733&reviewId=12772

In the alleged comedy "Gigli," Larry Gigli is a wiseguy with a problem. He wants the other mobsters to respect him, but that's not easy because they keep pronouncing his name "Giggly." As he explains several times, it's supposed to be pronounced "jeally," which rhymes with really.

The bigger problem is that "Gigli" is a rigli, rigli bad movie. It's the touchy-figli story of a mobster with a heart of gold. Most of the movie's anatomical references are to baser elements, mined mostly below the belt by writer-director Martin Brest. With this movie, the way Hollywood will now pronounce his name is "mud."

"Gigli" is what might happen if "The Sopranos" met "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy," except it would still star Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck. Ben and Jen -- America's fun couple of the moment -- met and fell in love while making "Gigli," though any heat they may have generated off-camera has not made its way onto the screen.

And it's not even because the character she plays is a lesbian. Rigli.

Lopez is a mob contractor named Ricki, who talks about her body as if she were describing a destination resort. While going through an increasingly provocative series of yoga poses, she tells Larry (Affleck) that the cynosure of her sexuality is "the most desirable place on Earth." She also tells him he's a phony, calls him "sad," compares his sexual ornamentation to a sea slug and describes her own not-so-secret garden in vivid detail.

It's a bizarre scene, and even if somebody actually thought this was sexy, its real point seems to be shock value. Hearing Lopez use all the naughty words in an explicitly sexual way is apparently supposed to be the aural equivalent of a nude scene. But it pulls you out of the moment, not into it.

None of this is any more peculiar than her character's lesbianism. Ricki waits until she is in bed with Gigli to declare herself a devout lesbian, then uses it alternately as a sexual tease and as a way to shield herself from his advances. The movie treats her homosexuality as if it were a layer of makeup that she puts on and takes off before bed. Larry keeps talking about getting Ricki to "jump the fence" back to heterosexuality, but she can't jump a fence she has never stopped straddling.

The two are thrown together when Gigli's boss sends him to snatch the younger brother of a federal prosecutor who has been making trouble for a bigger wiseguy back East. After abducting the boy (played by newcomer Justin Bartha) from a residence center for the mentally handicapped, Gigli takes him back to his apartment, where the character turns into Rain Man: Full Throttle.

Gigli's boss (Lenny Venito) is a New York mobster who hasn't spoken English in years; he speaks only idiomatic wiseguy. Gigli is an L.A. rent-a-thug whose reputation has exceeded him. "You're supposed to be this vicious mad dog," the boss tells Gigli.

The gap between that expectation and what we actually see is what the movie is all about. When Ricki, who has been sent to watch Gigli, turns up at his apartment, he tries to define himself as a gangster's gangster. "I am the sultan of slick," he says.

But underneath all the macho posturing and the street swagger, Gigli is actually a good-hearted guy. And we care about this . . . not at all. When he starts to mist up and tells Ricki about his dream of going straight (not being straight), any hope that the movie won't veer into maudlin territory is lost. "I got this fantasy about going someplace clean," he tells her. "No scumbags. Someplace you can be yourself. No bad stuff."

He's come to the wrong movie. And so have we.

For that matter, so have Christopher Walken, Lainie Kazan and Al Pacino, each of whom gets a big hammy scene to play, then vanishes. As a cop who barges into Gigli's apartment to explain a little of the plot, Walken actually appears to be doing an impersonation of Christopher Walken. Kazan plays Larry's guilt-tripping mother, who suddenly brings up her own malleable sexuality when she finds out her son's new girlfriend is a lesbian.

Pacino's turn is wildly entertaining, and just as wildly out of control. When he declares he can't go to prison because he's used to "the finer things," you don't need the "Gigli" gaydar to detect that he's playing the jammed-up mob boss as homosexual.

Affleck isn't as odious as he has been in several recent performances. He just doesn't bring anything to the title role except a tattooed blandness. Because nature abhors a vacuity, Lopez attempts to fill the blank Affleck leaves with her big smile. And her big mouth.

  

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54. "EDIT"
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whoops. my fault. i pulled a gigli.

  

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55. "j.lo finally does something miami doesn't like"
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Gigli 1/4 stars
Disastrous 'Gigli' pairs hit man, lesbian

http://ae.miami.com/entertainment/ui/miami/movie.html?id=107733&reviewId=12748

In Gigli (pronounced gee-lee), Ben Affleck plays Larry, a lunk-headed hit man for the mob who is reputed to be a ''vicious mad dog.'' The key word here is reputed, since the meanest thing we ever see Larry do, aside from jabbing angrily at his TV dinner vegetables, is sever a corpse's thumb with a plastic knife. There are second-year medical students, or even high school science-club treasurers, who could take this guy without breaking a sweat.

Except Larry has a superpower they don't: The guy is lesbian kryptonite. Like Chasing Amy first posited, and Gigli now conclusively proves, no gay woman on the planet is immune to Affleck's studly charms -- not even one as voluptuous, beautiful and, one assumes, in demand as Jennifer Lopez.

In Gigli, Lopez also plays a fearsome contract killer, Ricki, who, like most fearsome contract killers, favors low-hanging jeans and halter tops that show off her toned, but not intimidatingly toned, midriff. Ricki quotes Sun Tzu and reads Being Peace at bedtime, so we know she will unleash the great violence she harbors inside only as a last resort. But aside from a moment in which she threatens to blind and maim a teenager for playing his radio too loud, Ricki doesn't seem all that dangerous. Together, these two killers are as threatening as the titular canines from Lady and the Tramp.

That's OK, though. Despite Gigli's mobster trappings -- including a scene in which one guy's brains are blown out and land in an aquarium, where they are devoured by cute little tropical fish, none of them presumably named Nemo -- the movie isn't really a crime drama. Writer-director Martin Brest (Meet Joe Black, Scent of a Woman) merely uses the gangster milieu as background decoration for a romantic comedy about a guy who falls for a lesbian who keeps saying no, until she finally says yes. ''The whole man thing doesn't do much for me, usually,'' a pensive Ricki later reflects. ''But somehow, you got through to me.'' And that's that.

Depending on your personal experience, this may or may not seem plausible. But it does lead to some priceless pillow talk, such as Affleck's theorizing that ''in every relationship, there's a bull and a cow,'' followed by his post-coital mooing -- yes, mooing -- into Lopez's ear. Or the way Lopez initiates a night of heated passion by asking Affleck that can't-miss mood-setter, ''Are you gay?'' then challenging him to prove his oral prowess by spreading her legs and doing her best turkey imitation (''Gobble, gobble.'')

In between, there is some business about a Baywatch-obsessed kid (Justin Bartha) who suffers from autism, Tourette's Syndrome and Rain Man-ism (he also tends, when in Lopez's presence, to break out into Baby Got Back). A jiggly Lainie Kazan shows up as Affleck's bisexual mom, who is so smitten with her son's new girlfriend, she makes a pass at her. There are one-scene cameos by Christopher Walken (who puts everyone else in the film to shame just with the way he pronounces the word ''Interested?'') and Al Pacino, no doubt repaying Brest for allowing him to ham it up so ferociously in Scent of a Woman that Oscar voters were frightened into giving him an Oscar.

Gigli -- which had been tainted by bad buzz since Brest was forced to change his original, tragic ending after test screening audiences threw vegetables and large power tools at the screen -- was rumored to be in the same league as Showgirls and Battlefield Earth. But the movie isn't bad enough to merit worst-of-all-time status. Gigli's awfulness is of a rarer, more precious variety. It's the sort of bizarre, ill-conceived picture you can't believe exists, but are secretly glad it does.

Brest was obviously aiming for a loopy comedy with traces of pathos, like something Jonathan Demme might make in a sentimental mood, and he just might have pulled it off with a different set of actors. But no matter how unconvincing Gigli's two leads are, it's hard to hate a movie in which Affleck delivers a long soliloquy explaining why the penis is the center of the sexual universe, followed by Lopez's retort, in which she dismisses the organ as nothing more than ''a long toe'' and then waxes poetic on the allure of the female anatomy (''The mouth is the twin sister of the vagina''), all while performing some sort of erotic yoga on the floor.

The phrase ''they don't make 'em like this very often'' has never felt more appropriate.

  

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The J. Lo and Ben show
The much-hyped 'Gigli' is finally released and guess what? It's laughably bad.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0801/p15s02-almo.html

In "Gigli," Ben Affleck has a constant smirk on his face. His costar and real-life fiancée, Jennifer Lopez, also sports a mischievous grin. It's as if J. Lo and Ben are laughing to themselves and thinking, "We can make a really bad movie and people will still pay to see us."

Well, they had better rake in big bucks opening weekend, because once word gets out about how painful and laughably bad this film is, it will tank faster than you can say "Bennifer."

Affleck plays mob thug Larry Gigli, which rhymes with "really." It's an ongoing joke in the movie, but it's really not that funny. To protect a mob boss, Gigli receives orders to kidnap Brian, a developmentally disabled brother of a federal prosecutor. Meanwhile, J. Lo plays Ricki, hired to work with Gigli.

While they're waiting for their next order, Gigli begins hitting on Ricki in his apartment and soon she is waxing poetic nonsense about why women are superior to men. It's as if the screenwriters cobbled together a script with no thought or reason behind it.

It's well known that J. Lo and Ben's romance started with "Gigli." But there is no chemistry between them on screen. And, as if Americans haven't seen enough of Ben and Jen, the two will appear together again onscreen in "Jersey Girl," a comedy scheduled to debut next year. The track record for couples who make movies isn't impressive. Sparks flew between Russell Crowe and Meg Ryan while they were filming "Proof of Life," but the magic disintegrated on screen. Then there's Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton in 1963's "Cleopatra," an expensive spectacle that flopped.

"Gigli" is no different. At one point in the film, Gigli opens up to Ricki about how she's a "major babe" and how depressed he is that he can't have her: "Stick a fork in me. I'm done," he says. That's pretty much how viewers will feel by film's end.

  

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Gigli 1.5/4 stars

http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/movies/ny-etgiglio0801,0,2703305.story

The collective wait to exhale is over. We can now confirm, beyond a doubt, that there is indeed on-screen chemistry between Jennifer Lopez and her off-camera fiance, Ben Affleck. There also is chemistry between an overripe peach and a mushy banana. Throw them in a blender with a cup of milk and voila, the flavors cancel each other out.

"Gigli," the couple's smoothie of choice, is a contest of wills between a woman and a man fighting over who gets to be the banana and who gets to be the peach. (Or a "bull" and a "cow" in the more protein-centric terminology of Gigli, Affleck's caveman character). Gigli, a pugnacious thug- for-hire, and Ricki (Lopez), a curvaceous thug-for-hire, are thrown together to keep each other in line on a high-stakes job: kidnapping the younger brother of a federal prosecutor, with the hopes that the prosecutor will be cowed into dropping charges pending against a mob boss (Al Pacino, in his giddy, improvisational mode). Brian, the brother (Justin Bartha, another junior Tom Hanks), is described as being "psychologically challenged," but he turns out to suffer from a variable and nondescript form of mental disability peculiar to movies. Confined to an institution, he's spastic and incoherent; once out on the town with the leading man, he's magically lucid and his hair stays combed, even in a zooming convertible. With fresh air comes sex appeal.

The precious, hip-hop-spouting Brian functions as the stabilizing force between Gigli and Ricki, who lock horns from the word "go." Gigli champions brute force and wants to bed Ricki; Ricki favors the Zen-like approach of Eastern philosophies and is a lesbian. She even has a foxy and feisty lesbian lover worthy of J.Lo's trademark assets, but she turns out to be as disposable as the straight edge she eventually uses on her wrists.

Despite the meet-cute setup, "Gigli" rides on the sort of fashionably outré character elements more congenial to independent filmmaking. But writer-director Martin Brest freights his actors with leaden pacing and a theatrical gangster-speak somewhere to the left of Damon Runyon and the right of Elmore Leonard. Christopher Walken has the niche market on this sort of slithery, inflated method of verbal intimidation, and he blows in and out for his now- obligatory scene chew, as if by official mandate.

Just as exasperating is the inevitable selling out of J.Lo's character, whose serenely adjusted lesbian identity exists merely to be leveled by the right man ("Chasing Amy," anyone?). In the wake of all the eloquent post-mortems about Katharine Hepburn, it's interesting to appreciate how little we've really traveled since "Woman of the Year," in which Hepburn was allowed to cultivate her image of strength and self-reliance, as long as she messed up in the kitchen for her man in the final clinch.

Pundits in the men's room line after the movie wanted to tar "Gigli" as the "the first 'Showgirls' of the 21st century," but it's only intermittently as awful as that. And unlike "Showgirls," you wouldn't want to sit through it four times. To give credit where due, Hollywood trash doesn't get any kitschier than Lopez's endless soliloquy arguing the primacy of the vagina (while writhing aerobically on the floor), or Affleck administering an insulin injection on the formidable derriere of Lainie Kazan, doing her blowsy Greek-Jewish-mom shtick. In a more creative world, Kazan would be made U.S. ambassador to some very placid little country where cheesecake is the main staple of the diet.

  

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Gigli 1/4 stars
Affleck, Lopez are criminal in comedy
http://ae.philly.com/entertainment/ui/philly/movie.html?id=107733&reviewId=12750

Yoga purists, take note: J.Lo can do downward-facing dog with ease, and her sun salutations are none too shabby, either. Connoisseurs of the Eastern discipline, however, may be startled by the limber star's salty discourse as she bends, writhes and gets buffly spiritual in a thing called Gigli.

Introducing herself as Ricki, Lopez can be found giving Ben Affleck - who plays a dim-bulb hit man - a lecture on how and where women like to be pleasured. Ricki, who turns out to be mob-connected herself, is talking in rather colorful detail about various erogenous zones and hot spots of the female form. And then she does a very nice peacock pose.

This soft-core yogic moment is immensely - albeit unintentionally - funny, as Lopez flexes her gluteals and coos provocatively, while Affleck, looking as if someone just lodged a BB pellet between the eyes, gazes on, agape and stupefied.

Agape and stupefied are good words to describe how audiences will likely feel upon exiting Gigli - a torpid dud starring the cuddly celebrity twosome of the moment. Sprung from the mind of writer-director Martin Brest, Gigli is an ostensibly comedic crime-world romance about a hood (Affleck) who goes around correcting everyone's mangling of his surname (it's pronounced with soft g's, as in Geely, "rhymes with really") and who ends up baby-sitting a "psychologically challenged" hostage.

Ricki has likewise been assigned to guard this autistic abductee, Brian. A poor man's Raymond Babbitt (Dustin Hoffman's Rain Man character), he has been kidnapped as leverage for a mob boss facing charges in federal court. As portrayed by Justin Bartha (think Big-era Tom Hanks), Brian is a twitchy, damaged soul whose eyes light up at the thought of the buxom, bikinied lifeguards of Baywatch. Bartha spends the movie flinching, squinting, and yelping "the Baywatch!" over and over again. It is not pretty.

Affleck's Gigli can't believe his good fortune when the bare-midriffed miss shows up at his door, but he's soon struck dumb by the revelation that the beautiful Ricki is a lesbian. And so Gigli, whose first name is Larry, spends the rest of the movie trying to get his new partner in crime to "hop the fence."

There's lots of putatively suggestive chitchat about men and women, bulls and cows (and a turkey - don't ask), and how Affleck's mobster dude would look swell in mascara. Gigli, apparently, wants to say something about gender roles and sexual experimentation. It's titillation with a thump.

Lopez, in a scene in which she flirts with a female store clerk, is hardly believable - but at least the actress appears game. Affleck, for his part, behaves as if a Zero from Pearl Harbor dropped one too close to his noggin. He looks permanently shell-shocked.

Gigli stops dead in its tracks for a couple of lazily over-the-top cameos by two master hambones: Christopher Walken and Al Pacino. Pacino won an Oscar under Brest's guidance in Scent of a Woman, and the actor, doing some serious shtick here, throws in everything but the kitchen sink - and the "hoo-ha" that nabbed him his Academy Award as an arrogant, blind ex-Army colonel a a decade ago.

Riding a Chevy Impala convertible around L.A., Affleck, Lopez and the guy blurting "the Baywatch!" from the backseat take in the sights and run across a few sinister types. There is also an encounter with Lainie Kazan, who shows up as Gigli's mom and presumably knows how to pronounce his name.

  

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'Gigli's' faults: more than a couple
This Ben Affleck/Jennifer Lopez vehicle would stink even without its big-ticket stars.

http://www.calendarlive.com/movies/reviews/cl-et-dargis1aug01,0,6359362.story

Nearly as unwatchable as it is unpronounceable, the gangster comedy "Gigli" arrives in theaters amid a public relations tempest. As anyone within reach of the worldwide flack-net knows, the film stars real-life paramours Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez, who, stung by bad publicity about the feature, have vowed never to work with each other again. First, though, the pair should reconsider working with anyone who thought well of a movie hinged on jokes about the disabled, switch-hitting lesbians, and the sight of a dead man's brain splattered across an aquarium.

So forget the hype — this movie would stink even without its big-ticket stars, which isn't to say that either is entirely blameless. Affleck plays a low-level Los Angeles hood whose surname rhymes with "really" and Lopez plays Ricki, an underworld contractor brought in to ensure that he doesn't screw up a job. Gigli's immediate boss, Louis (Lenny Venito), has ordered his reluctant minion to kidnap the mentally handicapped Brian (newcomer Justin Bartha), the young brother of a federal prosecutor who's causing them business trouble. After luring the kid out of his group home, Gigli retreats to his bachelor's pad, whereupon he, Brian and Ricki become the spurious misfit family so beloved of contemporary Hollywood while the movie grinds to a thudding stop.

For the next 40 minutes or so, Gigli and Ricki swap stale banter as the actors feign animosity and Bartha sneaks off with the movie by channeling Dustin Hoffman's "Rain Man" shtick. Throughout the strained repartee, the jokes keep coming and bombing, but it's not as if the movie is devoid of humor. It's fairly risible when Ricki quotes Sun Tzu by heart and equally gag-worthy when, without a shred of conviction, she declares she's a lesbian just before snuggling in bed next to Gigli. A protracted scene in which the camera and Gigli both leer at Ricki's wobbly yoga moves as she sings the praises of the female anatomy has irrefutable camp value, as does an inevitable seduction capped by the memorable line "it's turkey time — gobble, gobble." Yes, it certainly is.

After a well-regarded student movie and a couple of misses, Brest hit it big as a director by staying out of Eddie Murphy's way in "Beverly Hills Cop." He subsequently scored with "Midnight Run," which he followed with the more serious "Scent of a Woman" and "Meet Joe Black," both studio-slick and strictly impersonal. The new film marks a return to a more overtly comic register for Brest — this is the first movie he's taken a writing credit on since his 1979 caper "Going in Style" — which, in keeping with movie-comedy fashion, mostly involve forced stabs at ostensible "politically incorrect" waggery. The insults about Brian being a "half-wit" are crudely unfunny and made all the more painful by Brest's steady attempts to reduce his stings with sentimentalism.

Unlike the Farrelly brothers, Brest doesn't embrace his bad taste — he flees from it. Every time Gigli hurls another insult at Brian, Brest and his team cue up a syrupy riff just to let us know that no one on board really thinks the kid is stupid. The frantic backpedaling seems a bid to put the thug into a better light, but it doesn't. Gigli weighs in as such an insufferable lunkhead that it's difficult to think of an actor who could pull him off without shifting the whole movie into pure caricature. A passable actor but a lousy star — the bigger the movie, the worse he comes across — Affleck doesn't have the chops or the charm to maneuver around (or past) bad material, and unlike his co-star he can't coast on looks alone.

If Lopez fares somewhat better it's only because her lines aren't as egregious and her beauty affords its own pleasurable dividends. She's as badly miscast as her sapphic warrior is ludicrously conceived, but because her well-manicured persona carries so much extra-added value — Puffy! The Rump! Ben and Jen! — Lopez ends up being a welcome distraction, a voluptuary of attractions. That's especially true once the characters hit the street and the story spirals ever further south. Much like Christopher Walken and Al Pacino, both of whom stop by for a pair of resplendently eccentric, too-brief appearances, Lopez proves her big-screen worth mainly by making you forget the movie. When you're this fabulous it just doesn't matter if you're any good.

  

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Gigli Grade D

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You could mistake Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez for many things: actors, models, mannequins. But Gigli asks us to accept Hollywood's over-exposed glamour couple as a pair of killers for hire. They're nice killers, to be sure – funny, pretty, shiny assassins who quickly find it in their hearts to save a mentally retarded teen from themselves. But c'mon. Would you run from Ben and J. Lo, or would you ask where they got their shoes?

Gigli is at war with itself, and no one wins. It's a kids' movie for easy-to-please adults, a fluffy, meet-cute romance that manages to incorporate J. Lo's own vagina monologue, a lovable retarded kid, a brutal murder and an Affleck performance that actually makes you feel sorry for the guy. Experimental garage bands don't get this atonal.

Mr. Affleck plays Larry Gigli (rhymes with really, as in really bad), an L.A. hood assigned to kidnap a federal prosecutor's son (or, as he is called several times in the movie, "the retahd"). Mission accomplished. Then comes Ricki (Ms. Lopez), another hood sent to make sure that Larry gets the job done. Larry has the hots for Ricki, but Ricki explains that she's a lesbian, which leads to shenanigans of frustrated sexual desire. Oh, the places we'll go.

Anyway, Ben and J. Lo – er, Larry and Ricki – take a liking to the kid, which makes sense because he comes straight from Hollywood central casting for lovable "retahds." So they must find a way to save the kid, whose thumb they're supposed to chop off, without angering their boss, Louis (Lenny Venito).

Mr. Venito is the best thing in the film, which should not be taken as a high compliment. He has a Cagney-like sense of belligerence and coiled danger. Mr. Affleck, meanwhile, plays Mr. Affleck, which is his most reliable role. He looks and sounds like a pretty boy doing impressions of Robert De Niro and Al Pacino (the latter shows up near the end of the film and yells a lot, which has become something of a Pacino trademark in recent years).

Once you get past the staggering question of who gave this thing the green light, Gigli actually turns into a uniquely bad movie that yields real (albeit unintentional) laughter. Writer/director Martin Brest has conjured one of the most momentum-averse movies in recent years, with moments of pure randomness that send the mind reeling. Christopher Walken wanders in to give his one-scene seal of approval as a cop who ... talks ... really ... slow. Lainie Kazan appears as Larry's mom, who reminds Larry that lesbians can be good fun, too. (Thanks, Ma).

But the signature sequence of vanity run amok comes when J. Lo schools Ben on why a woman's private parts are better than a man's. Executing yoga maneuvers in a skimpy outfit that accentuates her much-photographed caboose, she reduces Ben to a drooling, smirking, sneering mess. On the bright side, this also gets him to shut up. Then the music swells, and we're back to the kid's Rain Man refrain of wanting to check out Baywatch. Good call, kid. It's gotta be better than this.

  

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An Offer of Love He Can't Refuse

http://movies2.nytimes.com/2003/08/01/movies/01GIGL.html

I "Gigli," Ben Affleck is Larry Gigli, a mob enforcer with a vintage Chevy Impala convertible, a closet full of vintage-style rayon shirts and a threadbare, thirdhand wiseguy accent. (Though he is a Los Angeles native, Larry's accent sounds as if he had been raised in the part of New Jersey that's just outside Boston.) Before we go any further, however, we should clear up the question of how to pronounce Larry's surname, and the title of the picture, in which Mr. Affleck is joined by his real-life fiancée, Jennifer Lopez. In places — especially the long denouement, set on a beach full of bikini-wearing extras — it is certainly jiggly. And audiences, at inappropriate moments, will find themselves helplessly giggly. But Larry's name is pronounced ZHEE-lee, or as he likes to say, "rhymes with really."

As in really, really silly, which is the kindest way to describe this hopelessly misconceived exercise in celebrity self-worship, which opens to nationwide ridicule today. "Gigli," directed by the historically competent Martin Brest ("Beverly Hills Cop," "Midnight Run," "Scent of a Woman"), may be a patchwork of ideas that have been put to better use in other movies — a glob of "Rain Man," a dash of "Prizzi's Honor," a schmear of "Chasing Amy" — but it has a special badness all its own. Shot in nondescript Los Angeles locations, including a generic apartment where much of the action takes place, the movie has a flat, featureless look more suitable to one of the low-budget, semiprofessional productions that Mr. Affleck helps sponsor through the "Project Greenlight" contest.

This one, however, cost quite a bit more: Mr. Affleck and Ms. Lopez's combined fees reportedly ran close to $25 million, and they earn their money by hogging as much screen time as possible and uttering some of the lamest dialogue ever committed to film. Ms. Lopez's character, an underworld "contractor" who calls herself Ricki, is dispatched to Larry's place because his boss, a "Sopranos" understudy named Louis (Lenny Venito), thinks he needs extra help watching over Brian (Justin Bartha), a mentally challenged young man Larry has kidnapped on Louis's orders.

The nature of Brian's disability is unclear — he refers to himself as "brain damaged," and Larry addresses him much less kindly — but he exhibits symptoms consistent with lovable-movie-disabled syndrome. He flaps and screeches, annoyingly at first, but soon settles into stammering cuteness as he chants along with his favorite hip-hop numbers and says funny things about sex.

As do Mr. Affleck and Ms. Lopez, though they are most likely aiming for suave, risqué wit, rather than the horselaughs their repartee provokes. That Ricki is a lesbian temporarily stymies Larry's fantasy of sexual conquest and leads to an extraordinary debate about the relative merits of the penis and the vagina. Ms. Lopez has the last word — not one that I can quote here — and it comes at the end of a speech about sea slugs, Mount Everest and the bottom of the ocean that she delivers while executing a series of yoga poses. This causes poor Larry to fall hopelessly in love with her and sets up their eventual bedroom consummation, a tasteful woman-on-top montage initiated by Ms. Lopez declaring that "it's turkey time."

Indeed it is. Buried in the slow, talky, inanities that the two stars exchange are some potentially interesting ideas about female sexual self-assertion and male surrender, but neither the actors nor the filmmakers have any notion about how to explore them. Ms. Lopez's brisk self-confidence has begun to seem like a limitation, and the way she modulates between steeliness and softness feels mechanical, a matter of arranging her face rather than of expressing any plausible motive or emotion. Mr. Affleck is a handsome face and a bad accent in search of a character; however you pronounce it, Gigli is not really anybody at all.

For relief, there are brief appearances by a few designated over-actors. In addition to Al Pacino (as Starkman, a big-time mobster from New York), Christopher Walken shows up as the only police officer who seems at all concerned that the younger brother of a federal prosecutor has been kidnapped. Lainie Kazan has a scene as Gigli's mother, who immediately senses that Ricki is a person of substance. One assumes they were all well compensated for their trouble.

In one scene Ricki takes on a group of ill-mannered ruffians who are making noise at a taco stand. Larry wants to beat them up, but she takes a more refined approach, sauntering over in her short denim skirt and lecturing them on their "people skills." She also threatens the apparent ringleader with a baroque martial-arts torture, which involves gouging out the eyes and also removing that part of the brain that stores visual information, so that the victim will not only be blind, but will also lose all memory of what he has seen. Having seen "Gigli," I must say that the idea has a certain appeal.

  

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63. "now, listen to your mother. lol"
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EDIT:
there's a box that the reviewer fills in. they fill in the amount of profanity, nudity or sex, alcohol or drugs, violence and then . . ."Diversity Issues:Strong bi-sexual Hispanic woman character." lol

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Gigli Grade D

http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&id=1808404170&cf=parentsguide

This misbegotten mess is less a movie than a string of over-the-top audition monologues, those random set-pieces designed to show off an actor's facility with language and attitude. Those can be entertaining in their own way, but they do not have anything to do with creating a character or telling a story, just two of the many movie-making essentials that are missing in "Gigli."

Ben Affleck plays Larry Gigli (pronounced to rhyme with "really"), a small-time enforcer for a small-time hood named Louis. Larry's latest assignment is to kidnap a retarded young man named Brian (Justin Bartha) to help Louis and his colleagues can apply some pressure to Brian's brother. So Larry picks up Brian and brings him back to his apartment.


A beautiful woman (Jennifer Lopez) who says her name is Ricki tells Larry that she has also been hired by Louis to make sure he does not mess up the job. Larry's macho ego is affronted, but he is attracted to Ricki, even after she tells him she is gay.


A lot of bickering and bantering later, much of it involving mind-numbing debates over who is the boss and straight vs. gay sex, plus encounters with the mother of one and the ex-lover of the other, Larry and Ricki have to decide whether they are willing to hurt or kill Brian and that leads them to think differently about themselves and each other.


The movie has the traditional odd couple structure -- friction, the chance to prove themselves to one another, mutual epiphinies, and finally, respect and affection. But it never finds any tone or direction or believable connection between the characters.


Larry is a one-dimensional dim but macho guy. Ricki is a one-dimensional fantasy figure. Their bickering has no spark, and the evolution of their relationship is not grounded in any way because they are not really characters, just attributes and attitude, with no internal consistency. Larry is devoted to his mother in one scene, but seems to have no thought about abandoning her in another.


The narrative is choppy. It was probably recut following test screenings, but the effect is to make the events unconnected to each other, without any direction or momentum.


Meanwhile, somewhere in there Christopher Walken (as a cop), Al Pacino (as a crime boss), and Lainie Kazan (in another ethnic earth-mother role, and we really did not need to see her thong underwear) drop by for the showy audition-monologue-style scenes that have some verve but add nothing to the plot, tone, or themes of the movie. Indeed, there really is nothing that could be called plot, tone, or theme in this movie. For a brief, mad, moment I had a flicker of a thought that the mundane inanity of the sordid and petty imperatives imposed on Larry and Ricki might be some Samuel Beckett-style commentary on the existential void. Then I realized that watching the movie put me closer to the existential void than they ever were, and that Godot would arrive long before this movie went anywhere.


It's not the worst movie ever. It's not even the worst movie of the year. And it's not as bad as the Jen/Ben backlash want it to be. But it is not a good movie, and it is a terrible waste of talent.


Parents should know that this movie has graphic violence, non-stop profanity, and extremely explicit sexual references and situations. A character attempts suicide and then disappears from the story. In a better movie, the fact that the most capable and intelligent character is a bi-sexual Hispanic woman would be more worthwhile. Bartha's portrayal of Brian is probably the most natural and authentic of the movie, but the character of the retarded man is the stereotypical noble disabled person and really no more than a prop for the other characters to react to.


Families who see this movie should talk about why Brian made Larry and Ricki feel differently about their choice of careers. What did it mean when Ricki finally told Larry her real name? What do you think of Sun Tzu's view that in a a conflict, "angry is a statistically stupid move?" Have you ever used anger to mask sadness? What do you think about the advice to do the thing you're most afraid of?


Families who like this movie will like director Martin Brest's much better odd couple movie Midnight Run, starring Robert de Niro and Charles Grodin as a bounty hunter and his bail-jumping captive. They might also enjoy Prizzi's Honor, about another odd-couple romance of two professional hitmen (I guess a hit-man and a hit-woman) and the quirky Welcome to Collinwood, about a ragtag group of small-time crooks with the dream of just one big-time heist. Rain Man, referred to in this movie, is an Oscar-winning story about a man who meets up with his retarded brother. And in Chasing Amy(for the most mature audiences only), Ben Affleck again plays a heterosexual man in love with a gay woman.

  

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64. "by the time it got to arizona"
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Gigli 1/5 stars

http://www.azcentral.com/ent/movies/articles/0801gigli01.html

In Gigli, the title character - in the personage of Ben Affleck - has to keep reminding people that his name rhymes with "really."
As in really, really wretched.

Gigli is such an embarrassment for Affleck and co-star Jennifer Lopez that they should combine their resources to buy up every print and burn them, ceremonially, and spread the ashes over the Pacific Coast Highway, where the movie finally, mercifully, ends.

You have to wonder why stars whose faces adorn nearly every magazine cover in America would attach themselves to a movie that, by all indications, was originally scripted in crayon. Careerwise, this is the equivalent of a bungee jump with a cord that's a bit too long.

If Ben and Jen actually are a couple off-screen, and their whole romance isn't just an elaborate marketing ploy for this and their next collaboration, Jersey Girl, then the relationship works against them. Their scenes together - often with lines spoken just 6 inches from each other's face - are painful, awkward, self-conscious moments that exhibit nary a spark.

That's a problem, because Gigli is not actually a film at all, but a two-hour chit-chat session in which Lopez, as lesbian mobster Ricki, opines about the virtues of femaleness, and Affleck, as reluctant partner Larry Gigli, looks exasperated.

In his writing debut, director Martin Brest (Scent of a Woman, Midnight Run) exhibits a peculiar fascination with farm animals. At different points in the film, the characters are compared to bulls, cows and, during one especially painful moment, turkeys.

There's virtually no story, no conflict, no tension and no suspense, just the endless droning of the worst dialogue written in recent memory.

As the movie opens, Gigli is ordered to kidnap Brian (Justin Bartha), the mentally challenged brother of a federal prosecutor. After he does, Ricki shows up to keep an eye on Gigli so he doesn't mess up the job.

The two aren't very adroit kidnappers. They often leave Brian sitting alone, with full access to a phone, while they sleep together in the same bed. But they're not having sex, because Ricki is a lesbian, though her resolve eventually begins to fade under the onslaught of Gigli's "charm."

For some reason, there are only about eight people in the whole movie, which features an oddball walk-through by Christopher Walken and a staccato appearance by Al Pacino as an aggrieved gangster.

Although Walken and Pacino are barely in the movie, they serve to remind us that whatever Affleck and Lopez are doing, it certainly doesn't qualify as acting.

Lopez, a manufactured star if there ever were one, has nowhere to hide. She's not running around as a modern-day Cinderella or playing off George Clooney. The best you can say about her in Gigli is that she sports a very becoming haircut.

As a bad movie, Gigli is not in a class by itself. But, as the man said, it doesn't take long to call the roll.

  

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66. "LMAO Ricky is having a BALL!!!"
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71. "yeah, i am"
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i'm laughing my ass off and i don't have to pay $9. they should make more movies like gigli.

  

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67. "so if you live in milwuakee it can get worse"
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Gigli 1.5/4 stars

Ben & Jen bring celebrity, little else to 'Gigli'

http://www.onwisconsin.com/movies/movie.asp?id=867

The word "Gigli" is not the sound the bottom of the barrel makes as it is being scraped.

Nor is it the noise you hear when fingernails trail across a blackboard.

However, this Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez film does offer ample opportunities to make similar comparisons.

Every generation gets the celebrities they deserve, but what have we done to deserve "Gigli"? Proof that these are the dog days of summer can be found in almost every frame. It drags its muddy paws through romantic comedy, mismatched-buddy and mob-drama genres, without leaving a footprint in any them.

What "Gigli" - we are told that it rhymes with "really" - actually is, or became when the actors grew romantically involved, is a valentine from Ben and Jen.

Audiences can measure every glance and close-up for degrees of intimacy. And there is plenty of time to do so while the mind wanders looking for food for thought.

Is Ben's tattoo real or painted on? And just what is that book Jen is reading?

"Gigli" written and directed by Martin Brest, follows multiple stereotypes in search of a story. Affleck plays a low-rent knuckle-scraper with a pompadour and a bada-bing accent.

Lopez plays a tough-talking but brainy lesbian who is also a mob enforcer. She quotes Lao Tzu and practices martial arts. He's a macho goon with a heart of gold. They fall into each other's lives when they kidnap the mentally challenged brother, played by Justin Bartha, of a prosecutor to force him to drop charges against some mob boss. Instead, they develop a soft spot for the kid and must protect him from the punishment they are ordered to administer.

But all this is just an excuse to get them together so they can bicker and talk dirty, and so Brest can offer paparazzi close-ups of the lovers du jour as they fall into bed together.

"Prizzi's Honor" this ain't.

Even if Ben and Jen weren't a tabloid item, it would be easy to dismiss "Gigli" - it's Affleck's character's name, and he corrects people who mispronounce it - as vacuous.

Like the soundtrack beneath the surface that threatens to break into song, the story never composes itself. The actors are playing with straw dolls because that is what Brest, who directed "Beverly Hills Cop," "Midnight Run," and "Scent of a Woman," gave them.

Lopez is a knockout - she performs a soft-core yoga routine while discussing oral sex - and it's no wonder Affleck is smitten. But she and he have little on-screen chemistry. Both are marginal actors and are unable to challenge one another.

And they are taken to school first by Christopher Walken, in a distracted walk-on as a twitchy cop, mangling a cardboard coffee cup, and then by Al Pacino, who turns a mad-dog cameo as a mob boss into the stuff of Shakespearean tragedy.

And that is the difference between actors and celebrities. Really.

  

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68. "who better to recognize trash than a hollywood reporter"
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Gigli-Edit:n/r

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr/reviews/review_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1947168

"Gigli" is the movie nobody is certain how to pronounce, but nearly everyone knows about since it stars Ben & Jen.

In fact, thanks to Sony's heavy promotional campaign emphasizing the relationship between Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez, it's hard to consider this movie apart from that relationship. More to the point, it's hard to imagine this movie existing at all without the glamour of Ben & Jen.

Whether by coincidence or design, writer-director Martin Brest seems to have crafted a movie to revel in their celebrityhood: Each gets a scene to display a newly sculpted body. Each gets monologues to command the spotlight. The movie does riffs off their private lives and turns tabloid rumors into subtext.

The film comes from Revolution Studios, a company that firmly believes in star vehicles, yet "Gigli" may be the reductio ad absurdum of this approach. The same script with any two other actors might make a weak Sundance Competition entry or, more likely, a Sundance reject due to its implausible story, rote characters and a general malaise that settles over the movie like a damp blanket. Thanks to Sony's media hype, "Gigli," whose target audience is young females, should enjoy an OK opening weekend, then a quick payoff.

Nothing much happens after this set-up other than a series of arias and duets built around Gigli's growing sexual frustration and Ricki's flirtatious ways of saying no and then maybe. All three characters are completely fictional constructs, neither credible nor viable outside the realm of make-believe.

Affleck's hood is about as tough as a marshmallow. For all his Technicolor tattoos and upper-body bulk, he's a preening, delusional fool no self-respecting gangster would hire to pick up his dry cleaning. Lopez's free-spirited lady of crime is a teasing centerfold, toying with sexual ambivalence to spice up a bland stew. Even Bartha's "Rain Man" impression, while impressive, feels fake. Brian is an idiot savant one moment, doing mean rap songs and fixated on "Baywatch," then unaccountably lucid the next.

Four actors appear for a single scene of what one might call Extreme Acting. First up is Christopher Walken as a police detective with a mesmerizing array of mannerisms and nervous ticks. Next comes Lainie Kazan, doing a Jewish Mother bit to end all Jewish Mother bits. Missy Crider turns up as Ricki's hysterical and suicidal ex-lover, never mind how she knew where to find the trio in hiding. The piece de resistance is Al Pacino's East Coast crime boss, oozing malevolence with every gesture and leaving nothing -- set, props, fellow actors -- unchewed.

Brest certainly has handled movie stars throughout his directing career, so what explains his willingness to let actors go off on whatever tangent suits them or his inability to find the right tone for this dark romantic comedy? The film lacks a controlling point of view to guide an audience through so improbable a tale. Nothing in the movie is funny -- aside from giggles provoked by misfired jokes -- or romantic or dramatic.

With so few sets and locations to work with, Brest's technical crew struggles unsuccessfully to make the film visually attractive. The movie's final scene winds up on the set of "Baywatch," which runs the risk of making an entire audience wish it were home watching TV.

  

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69. "didn't the tv guide even like dharma and greg?"
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Gigli:1/5 stars

http://www.tvguide.com/Movies/database/ShowMovie.asp?MI=32602

Martin Brest's grotesque misfire of a light-hearted crime picture is torpedoed by the dismal lack of on-screen chemistry between Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez, whose off-screen affair overshadowed the production. Mid-level gangster Lou (Lenny Venito), who has the ambitious idiot's contempt for unambitious lugs, orders dimwitted flunky Larry Gigli (Affleck) to kidnap Brian (Justin Bartha), the mentally handicapped brother of a federal prosecutor. Once Larry has Brian stashed in his off-the-shelf bachelor pad, he learns that Lou has hired a second contractor, the beautiful and brainy Ricki, to make sure Larry doesn't screw things up. Instant mutual antipathy aside, Ricki and Larry are stuck with each other and Brian, whose adult body houses the mind of a pre-adolescent preoccupied with smutty rap lyrics and fantasies of "going to the Baywatch," because "that's where sex is." Ricki, a new-agey lesbian (how's that for a romantic complication?) with a trendy interest in traditional Chinese military strategy, thinks Larry is a vain, insecure, macho moron, which he is. Larry thinks Ricki (and, by extension, all lesbians) should acknowledge the evolutionary perfection of the "the horn" and abandon her unnatural quest for compensatory satisfaction, which she won't. But they inevitably grow fond of each other and their captive, which complicates matters when Lou decides to increase the pressure on Brian's brother. Written and directed by the erratic Brest, this misbegotten mess drags when it needs to be snappy and is vulgar when it's trying to be frank and sophisticated. The spectacle of the near-naked Ricki striking sexually provocative yoga poses while floridly extolling the virtues of female genitalia is particularly mortifying, but it's only one of many horribly miscalculated scenes. Lopez's overly careful enunciation, which suggests a deeply stupid person trying to sound smart, raises the possibility that Ricki is actually no more intelligent than Larry, but in light of the way the story plays out that probably wasn't Brest's intention. It's hard to imagine the cast that could have made this smarmy, cringe-inducing material play, but Lopez and Affleck actively accentuate its creepy deficiencies while newcomer Bartha's technically accomplished performance is wasted on a plot device masquerading as a character. The noisy, one-scene cameos by Christopher Walken, Al Pacino and Lainie Kazan are a welcome diversion not because they're good, but because they hum with some kind of energy; the rest of the film is embalmed in the deadening juices of Affleck and Lopez's throwaway celebrity.

  

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70. "lol. kalamazoo gazette getting shots in"
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Gigli: 1/4 stars

http://www.interbridge.com/jamessanford/2003/gigli.html

What can you say about a 125-minute movie that died?

"Gigli," the film that launched the Ben Affleck/Jennifer Lopez love story and its accompanying multimedia juggernaut, is lying in state at a theater near you. If you are wise, you will let it rest in peace.

Shall we eulogize it? Do we dare? Sure. It deserves at least that much.

Some will say this is a film that was born to be bad. They may well be right. Whatever strange magic that might have bewitched Affleck and Lopez when they read the screenplay by Martin Brest (who also directed) never carried over to the screen. Instead, "Gigli" (which, we are reminded several times, rhymes with "really") is an inert, toneless clunker about a conceited tough guy named Larry Gigli (Affleck) who kidnaps mentally challenged Brian (an embarrassing performance by Justin Bartha) to put pressure on Brian's older brother, a federal prosecutor. Since Gigli can't be completely trusted with such a major assignment, prickly enforcer Ricki (Lopez) is sent along to keep him company.

For those who savor every bit of Ben/Jen trivia, here's the sparkling repartee from their first conversation onscreen:

Larry: "Hello."

Ricki: "Hi."

Larry: "May I be of some assistance?"

Ricki: "That remains to be seen."

Considering the rest of the dialogue in "Gigli," that's pretty snappy stuff. The movie has one central set-up that's repeated ad nauseum: Brian does something zany; Larry gets angry; Ricki scolds Larry. Brest's idea of spicing up this situation is saddling Brian with -- wait 'til you hear this one! -- Tourette's Syndrome, so that he's constantly cursing at Larry, who responds with a few choice words of his own.

"Gigli" also brings in, for no credible reason, Ricki's former girlfriend Robin (Missy Crider), who takes one look at Larry and Ricki, misunderstands the situation and promptly slashes her wrists with a butcher knife. As the blood oozes out of the cuts, that jokester Brian notes, "Lady, you need some Band-Aids!"

It's the scene Neil Simon forgot to write.

Although Ricki claims she's gay, Larry is a firm believer in the "Basic Instinct" theory: Lesbians are just women who haven't hooked up with the right guy yet. So after almost 90 minutes of blase bickering, Ricki and Larry finally do wrinkle the sheets in a soon-to-be-roundly-ridiculed sequence that kicks off with Ricki announcing "It's turkey time. Gobble, gobble!" and ends with the stars generating almost as much heat as Michael Jackson and Lisa Marie Presley did in their public makeout sessions.

Neither Affleck nor Lopez has much to be proud of here. He strikes a single note -- lunkheaded exasperation -- again and again, in between showing off his biceps and teeth. Larry is a caricature, not a character, and he's completely dull.

Photographed leeringly by cinematographer Robert Elswit, Lopez is burdened with what has to be one of the most ludicrous monologues in screen history and, just to ensure complete humiliation, she has to deliver it while performing a yoga workout. She's also called upon to talk tough without ever showing off her strength or even much in the way of brainpower. In one of the film's unintentional uproarious moments, Ricki protests being asked to cut off Brian's thumb, barking, "I didn't sign on to this to be a brutal street thug!" Sorry, sweetheart, but "mob enforcer" is not a synonym for "day care provider."

Like the Madonna/Sean Penn collaboration "Shanghai Surprise" did 17 years ago, "Gigli" is likely to attract a handful of devout stargazers who'll ignore the movie's poisonous word of mouth. They'll open the casket and peer in at the lifeless "Gigli," hoping to find something of value. Instead, they'll hear the mocking words of our heroine Ricki: "This might be a good time to suggest not to let the cruel seeds of hope take root in your soul."

Amen, sister.

  

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Gigli 1/4 stars

'Gigli': It's hard to pronounce, and harder to fathom

http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/reviews/2003-07-31-gigli_x.htm

You know things aren't going well for J. Lo and Ben when the highlight of their first movie together is a surprise, histrionic appearance by that old yeller, Al Pacino. His entrance about two-thirds of the way through Gigli finally injects some familiar energy into this embarrassing debacle.

Gigli is the rare movie that never seems to take off, but also never seems to end. It tries hard to titillate, but ends up making audiences want to avert their eyes.

Ben Affleck, playing the low-rent hood Gigli, kidnaps a retarded teenager. When the task threatens to become too tough, reinforcement arrives: glam lesbian Ricki (Jennifer Lopez). Of course, she succumbs to his wily charms.

The stars preen for the camera but strike no sparks with each other. There's no question that Lopez knows how to steam things up: Check out her scenes with George Clooney in 1998's Out of Sight. But Affleck had more chemistry with buddy Matt Damon in Good Will Hunting than he does with Lopez, whom he met while making this film and now is his fiancée.

Maybe it's because Lopez appears so in love with herself that there's no room for anyone else. She shows off her curves through a variety of yoga postures and other self-consciously suggestive moves while Affleck looks on, sometimes in a dumb leer, sometimes in a calculated approximation of desire.

Gigli aspires to the comic noir style of the Elmore Leonard adaptations Get Shorty and Out of Sight. The intent, one imagines, was to integrate black humor and sexy banter with some shatteringly violent moments. But what emerges is desperate — and occasionally offensive — salaciousness merged with corny, predictable jokes.

Supporting actor Justin Bartha must have watched Rain Man a few hundred times to nail his performance as Brian, a cheery lad with occasional bouts of Tourette's syndrome interspersed with moments of comic wisdom. When he obsesses over his favorite show, "the Baywatch," he sounds as if he's channeling Dustin Hoffman's Judge Wapner-loving Raymond. Still, Bartha is a good deal more engaging than our not-so-dynamic duo.

When Bartha requests a bedtime story ("it soothes me down," he explains innocently), Affleck mocks him, reading aloud from a Tabasco sauce label and a Charmin toilet paper wrapper. See, he has no books in his house.

A rare illuminating moment in Gigli comes when we learn the proper pronunciation: Gigli rhymes with "really." Or is it silly? No big deal-y.

  

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http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/Gigli-1124237/

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77. "Somewhere, P. Diddy's Laughing his ass off"
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107. "LMAO how about that?"
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so true.

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159. "and somewhere, Halle Berry is saying..."
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THANK U GOD THAT I DIDN'T TAKE THIS ROLE!!!!

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162. "and somewhere, someone is renting"
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b*a*p*s. so it all adds up in the end, somehow.

  

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Gigli 2.5/4 stars

http://www.suntimes.com/output/ebert1/wkp-news-gigli01f.html

Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck are in love and plan to get married, as you already know unless you are sealed off from all media, in which case you are not reading this review, so put it down. Because they are a famous couple, starring in a movie romance, we expect something conventional and predictable and that is not what we get from "Gigli." The movie tries to do something different, thoughtful, and a little daring with their relationship, and although it doesn't quite work, maybe the movie is worth seeing for some scenes that are really very good.

Consider the matching monologues. They've gotten into an argument over the necessity of the penis, which she, as a lesbian, feels is an inferior device for delivering sexual pleasure. He delivers an extended lecture on the use, necessity and perfect design of the appendage. It is a rather amazing speech, the sort of thing some moviegoers are probably going to want to memorize. Then she responds. She is backlit, dressed in skintight workout clothes, doing yoga, and she continues to stretch and extend and bend and pose as she responds with her speech in praise of the vagina. When she is finished, Reader, the vagina has won, hands down. It is so rare to find dialogue of such originality and wit, so well written, that even though we know the exchange basically involves actors showing off, they do it so well, we let them.

Affleck plays Larry Gigli, rhymes with "Geely," and one wonders, learning that they rejected several earlier titles for the movie, which ones could have been worse than this. He's an errand boy for a tough-talking Los Angeles mobster named Louis (Lenny Venito). Louis wants to do a favor for a New York mob boss, and orders Gigli to kidnap the mentally retarded brother of a federal prosecutor. Gigli does, walking out of a care facility with Brian (Justin Bartha), who has Rain Man's syndrome. He takes him home, there is a knock on the door, and he meets Ricki (Lopez), who is also a mob enforcer. Louis is taking no chances and has assigned both of them to guard the boy.

This is the set-up for an obvious plot that the movie, written by director Martin Brest, wisely avoids. Instead of falling in love and psychically adopting Brian, or (alternate cliche) fighting all the time, Gigli and Ricki get to like each other very, very much, even though she makes it perfectly clear that she is a lesbian. So resolute is the movie in its idea of her character that she doesn't even cave in and have a conversion experience, which is what we're expecting, but remains a lesbian--as indeed, as a good lesbian, she should.

Their conversations take on a rather desperate quality, since Gigli feels lust and love, and she feels strong affection. What transpires between them, and whether they ever put their theories about genitalia through a field test, I will not reveal. Meanwhile, Brian behaves like a well-rehearsed Movie Retarded Person, does or doesn't do whatever the script requires, and conveniently disappears into his room when he is not needed.

Lopez and Affleck are sweet and appealing in their performances; the buzz said they didn't have chemistry, but the buzz was wrong. What they don't have is conviction. There is no way these two are killers for the mob. They don't have the disposition for it. And consider this: If you had kidnapped the highly recognizable Rain Man brother of a top federal prosecutor, would you drive him all over Los Angeles in a convertible with the top down, and take him to restaurants and malls?

So the crime plot is completely unconvincing. It does, however, open the door for the movie's collection of inspired supporting performances. Christopher Walken, as a cop who knows Gigli, walks into his apartment and does five minutes of Walkenizing and the audience eats up every second. Lainie Kazan, as Gigli's mother, sizes up Ricky instantly, likes her, learns she is a lesbian, chucks her under the chin and says, "But you've been with guys, right?" Then she talks about her own Highly Experimental youth, while solidifying her position as the ethnic mother of choice in modern American movies. And then toward the end, Starkman, the mob boss from New York, arrives, and is played in a cameo by Al Pacino--who makes the journey from extravagant dopiness to chilling intimidation faster and better than anyone else I can think of.

So the movie doesn't work. The ending especially doesn't work, and what's worse, it doesn't work for a long time, because it fails to work for minute after minute, and includes dialogue which is almost entirely unnecessary. But there is good stuff here. Affleck and Lopez create lovely characters, even if they're not the ones they're allegedly playing, and the supporting performances and a lot of the dialogue is wonderful. It's just that there's too much time between the good scenes. Too much repetitive dialogue. Too many soulful looks. Behavior we can't believe. I wonder what would happen if you sweated 15 minutes out of this movie. Maybe it would work. The materials are there.

  

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a phat ass'll do that to you.

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185. "2 maybe, but 2.5 no."
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it wasn't "that" bad.

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79. "my local critic strikes again"
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Edit: Gigli 2.5/4 stars
Cursed script lacks formula for Affleck-J. Lo chemisty

http://www.sacticket.com/cgi-bin/Movies/review?story_id=03gigli_baltake

Martin Brest's "Gigli" is the kind of interesting, messed-up little movie doomed to be misunderstood and underrated. It's a film that boldly strives for some originality among all the formulaic pap that monopolizes our theaters and that's ultimately penalized for not quite making it.

And this one comes with a lot of hurdles to surmount with which other films don't have to contend. "Gigli" is the film that started it all for the ubiquitous Super Couple, Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck. It's the kind of distraction that gets in the way.

Then, there's the bad buzz that resulted first from Brest's decision to re-film the ending, following a reportedly unpromising test screening and, later, from the indecisiveness about the title. First it was "Gigli" (which is pretty bad) and then "Tough Love" and then "Gigli" again. What was wrong with "Tough Love"?

All of this puts "Gigli" at a disadvantage. Watching it is a bit like looking at it from the end of a long corridor strewn with all kinds of wiring that hangs down and nearly obliterates the small image at the end of the hall. It's difficult to see the actual movie. But if you apply yourself and concentrate on what Brest is trying to do, and if you practice some restraint about being judgmental toward Lopez and Affleck, you just might enjoy bits and pieces of it. This is not a great movie, but it isn't a bad one, either.

Structured by Brest (who also wrote the script) as if it were a three-character play with a few supporting walk-ons, "Gigli" is a small romantic comedy about two people who don't experience love at first sight but actually have to work at it. By the end of the story, they like each other -- and, according to this film, that's a lot. "Gigli" endorses mutual respect between potential lovers.

Affleck plays Larry Gigli -- pronounced jee-lee. "It rhymes with 'really,' " Larry explains. One of the glaring flaws of the movie is that there is no good reason -- not even a good jokey reason -- for either the film or this character to be called Gigli. It's just another distraction.

Anyway, Larry is a low-level hood with delusions of grandeur, particularly about his sexual prowess. He calls himself a bull. Women are cows, one of the many politically incorrect elements Brest ("Midnight Run," "Scent of a Woman") dares to incorporate into his story line. Another is the character of Brian (Justin Bartha), a mentally challenged kid (or idiot savant) who is constantly referred to by Larry as "a retard."

But these dubious inclusions are there to say something about Larry, who is something of a Neanderthal. He's pathetically dated.

Brian is the younger brother of a federal prosecutor, and Larry has been assigned by another hood named Louis (Lenny Venito) to kidnap him and hold him hostage. Louis is serving as middleman for a mobster (Al Pacino in for a billed cameo) being stalked by the prosecutor, and the idea is that Brian can be used as leverage to keep the prosecutor in line. Louis likes Larry but doesn't have much faith in him. The guy's a screw-up, and Louis is tossing him a bone here.

To make sure everything goes down well, Louis also assigns Ricki (Lopez), an independent "contractor," to the case -- to keep an eye on both Larry and Brian. Ricki is a looker, and Larry wastes no time making a clumsy pass at her. But it's futile. "I'm gay," she explains.

And so, we get the semblance of a cozy, intimate story as Larry, Ricki and Brian become a makeshift family, hitting the road, hiding out in hotel rooms and getting to know each other. It becomes clear that Larry and Ricki were made for each other, except that nature has thrown them a curve. Or, rather, Ricki, who is intelligent and soft-spoken, was made for Larry. She's just what Larry needs to bring himself into the 21st century -- to humanize him and make him tender.

I have to admit that I found Larry more offensive than he needs to be, even though Affleck is very funny in the role. He really loosens up here, and one is tempted to credit Lopez for that.

The character of Brian is also a problem -- an annoyance that just won't go away. He's like a watered-down parody of Dustin Hoffman's Raymond Babbitt in "Rain Man."

But making up for all of this -- almost -- is the sophisticated, sexed-up dialogue and repartee that Brest wrote for Lopez and Affleck.

And then there are the supporting turns by Pacino (who does something really shocking), Lainie Kazan as Larry's mother, and Christopher Walken, in for one scene as a cop who likes to keep an eye on Larry's activities.

But the main reason to see "Gigli" is Lopez, who gives a confident performance and who never looked better. She's every inch a movie star here. She makes you wish that "Gigli" was a better movie.

As for the two stars making sparks, the celebrity voyeurs among us should find some satisfaction in the many scenes in which they show off their toned bodies and even share a kiss or two, their characters' sexual orientation notwithstanding. They have terrific chemistry. It looks like the real thing.

  

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80. "i feel bad for ben"
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cuz being the media whore that she is.
miss lopez is going to dump his ass faster than she dumped puffy during the whole trial fiasco.

nuff said

  

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he knew what he was doing. but more importantly don't feel bad because of who he was doing.

a)damnation by association
b)that's a nice piece of ass he is/was getting

  

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Gigli Grade C-
'Gigli' struggles to overcome character flaws

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/moviestory.hts/ae/movies/reviews/2021557

To readers of People magazine and tawdrier purveyors of celebrity gossip, Gigli is known as the movie that brought Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez together as a couple.

For the rest of us, that isn't much of a recommendation. Separately, Affleck and Lopez have rarely given better than passable performances. (This is especially true of Lopez, who acts about as well as she sings.) Together, they present an insurmountable challenge for a film that was saddled with a bum script from the beginning.

Excellent actors support the stars, but not even Al Pacino, Christopher Walken and Lainie Kazan can help when nobody knows how to use them.
Their characters each have a clear purpose. Walken's is to rachet up the tension. Pacino's character commits an act that turns the story in a new direction. Kazan is supposed to add shading to Affleck's character.

They appear for one scene, then vanish. It feels as if writer-director Martin Brest started the script by putting scenes on note cards then forgot to weave them together.

As a director, Brest is responsible for Scent of a Woman, Midnight Run and Beverly Hills Cop. The movies he wrote are largely forgotten. Now we know why.

Affleck's character, Larry Gigli (pronounced GEE-lee) is an enforcer for a tough-talking mobster who conducts his business meetings on the sidewalk outside a Los Angeles restaurant.

It's a mystery how Gigli got started in this line of work, because he's a pussycat. Ordered to kidnap the mentally handicapped brother of a federal prosecutor, Gigli hides the kid, Brian (newcomer Justin Bartha), at his apartment.

Suddenly, Ricki (Lopez) appears. The boss sent her because he doesn't trust Gigli to handle things alone. Gigli tries to establish who's boss but mangles his lines, which feel swiped from an Ice Cube movie. He throws down. He says bring it on. The man can represent because he's "the original, pimp gangsta's gangsta."

It's all right to laugh.

After seeing the movie, it comes as a surprise to learn Brest's intentions from the production notes. He wanted Gigli to come across as a "mean, angry and unsympathetic" character who comes to realize he's not the person he imagined himself to be.

That might make an interesting movie, but Gigli doesn't come close. It's as confused as its main character is supposed to be. Its language is raw, but the characters mostly come off as sweet. Ricki is a lesbian, but this is a heterosexual love story. Humor involving Brian is supposed to feel edgy -- it isn't nice to make fun of the handicapped, after all -- but much of it just feels awkward.

Gigli only does one mean thing, and it is so at odds with the prevailing tone that it makes us flinch.

Ricki sees through his mask, which isn't hard to do. The love scene is painful to watch. The film tries a neat trick by switching masculine-feminine roles, but it doesn't work. The movie tries too hard to be edgy, to work as a sweet romance, yet lacks the courage to push as hard as it needs to.

With the good-looking Lopez and Affleck starring, Gigli is always watchable, but factoring out the eye candy, it's only worth watching at two points. The first time is when Walken, playing a suspicious police detective, pays Gigli a visit. The scene feels as if Brest threw it in out of necessity. The audience needs to see that the police are on the case, and having cop and kidnapping victim in the same apartment could have injected some much-needed dramatic tension.

But Walken, who specializes in off-kilter performances, gives one of his strangest. His monologue is full of odd pauses, wild looks and crazy rhythms. Time stops when he enters the room. We wonder what planet he hails from.

Nothing else of interest happens until near the end, when Pacino appears as a ruthless mobster. He out-Walkens Walken, moving constantly, casting wary glances, his voice and face at odds with his words and actions.

When these men are on screen, Affleck and Lopez disappear.

Kazan, who plays Gigli's mother, also eclipses the principal actors, but she's forced to interact with the stars, whereas Walken and Pacino are on their own wavelengths.

Pacino's character is upset because kidnapping a federal prosecutor's brother can do nothing but intensify pressure from the authorities. Strangely, however, that one appearance by Walken is the only hint anybody cares. For the most part, Gigli, Ricki and Brian seem to exist in a cocoon, untouched by the outside world.

Of course, they become an ersatz family, albeit one destined to break apart. A lesbian, a mama's boy and a kidnapped mentally challenged child on the lam -- there should be a story in such an unconventional family. But Brest either never found the story or wasn't able to put it on screen.

  

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82. "who needs a star rating when you got 'total crap'"
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Gigli: Total Crap

http://www.efilmcritic.com/review.php?movie=8023&reviewer=198

WHAT?!!! That's the simplification of what movie audiences all over the world will be asking after seeing Gigli ("rhymes with really".) They'll be asking it about the plot. Discussion groups will be formed in the parking lot; mainly on where to go eat. Studio spinmasters will be frantically writing apologies and Kevin Smith will shoot himself wondering why he couldn't get Jersey Girl into theaters BEFORE this fiasco. Believe me that I'm being kind too. Mainly because I want to understand this film, to decide if it possibly went wrong AFTER the greenlight stages which must have involved blackmail and bribes. I have too much respect for director Martin Brest to believe anything less. So let's examine.
The plot in one paragraph: Ben Affleck plays Larry Gigli ("rhymes with really"), a low-level contractor who is assigned to kidnap the retarded brother of a federal prosecutor gunning for a Mafioso boss (Al Pacino). So little respect does his boss show for him that in comes Ricki (Jennifer Lopez), another contractor to make sure he doesn't screw it up. She is also a lesbian who must resist the macho man charms of the retard while keeping one eye on the prosecutor's brother. Thank you.

It's the kind of plotting that Hollywood bigwigs like to hear. A few sentences to sum it up, never having to worry about the inner complexities of the story which no doubt, will come later. Consider what Gigli is about and then revel in the little details of Martin Brest's screenplay.

Larry Gigli ("rhymes with really") is not a smart man, but he knows what love is. Breaking down men and women to "bulls" and "cows", he is crudely determined to milk the one he has grazing in his pasture. Ricki is unavailable to him; "lesbian" being nothing more than a label for relationship insecurity than an actual way of life. She rejects his every move, not because she's into liplocking but because Larry doesn't know how to ask her the right way. If he could just drop the facade and treat her the way a woman should be, they could live happily ever after.

This is further accented by the parallel of Brian the Rain Man (Justin Bartha), who is in love with just the lovely voice of an Australian weathergirl. Like the stereotype that women's groups have given us for years, he's a guy with brain damage. Brian's predeliction for rap music; an artform widely criticized for its rampant misogyny and his life goal to get to Baywatch "where all the pretty girls are" is a representation of Gigli's psyche. David Lynch has chimed in and suggested that Larry, Ricki and Brian are actually all one in the same person and Gigli's apartment is the mind from which they cannot escape. Brian DePalma concurred that when they DO actually leave that one bedroom flat, Gigli is finally able to open up and confront the other two personalities in his life. It's no coincidence that the three main characters are named after popular talk show hosts who act like pop culture psychiatrists (King, Lake & Conan O') and symbolize power, water and barbarians.

P.S. All of the above is bullshit.

I tried. It was a last ditch effort and I bet even Martin Brest would be surprised that anyone can attach so much subtext to a misguided, poorly conceived vehicle. Retrace the steps of this project to the very beginning and you have to wonder why did Ben Affleck decide to do another love story where his character attempts to convert a lesbian? In what universe do you set a love story against the backdrop of kidnapping a retarded kid with a side dish of Tourette's? Given Brest's recent penchant for long movies, Scent of a Woman (157 minutes) and Meet Joe Black (180 minutes), exactly how much longer was the original version of Gigli? (Several late-minute trims were called in before it rested at 124 minutes.)

Then you watch the film and discover a few things you may never have realized. Like how easy it is for a Brooklyn thug to walk in-and-out of a mental health facility with one of its patients. Or that "contractors" never carry guns and do all their intimidation through speeches about corpses and ancient Chinese secrets. OK, everyone knew the best place to hide a retarded kidnap victim is in your own apartment, even after a detective shows up to make sure you don't have him. Did you know you can cut a dead person's thumb off with just a plastic knife? I must be using mine wrong then since I have trouble with my Salisbury Steak TV dinners.

Yet, the movie keeps trying to remind you that you're watching a Martin Brest film. Despite not being credited as a writer on anything since 1979's Going in Style, Brest tries to channel wonderful moments from his past works with long dialogue exchanges ranging from Larry's version of Affleck's Chasing Amy car speech to what will be the most commented upon scene in the film, Ricki's vagina monologue. If I told you that nearly eight minutes of Jennifer Lopez stretching into every conceivable position in a tiny exercise outfit while talking about the advantages of girl-on-girl love and her own "pussy" would have you focusing more on how unbelievably inane the dialogue is, you would swear you might have just turned gay. This is actually something that happens to Larry from this point on and a subplot I don't have the stomach to get into.

There are two things that work in Gigli. Call it the "pro" factor. After a half-hour of ludicrous plotting, in knocks Christopher Walken as that aforementioned detective. Never have I seen a room full of critics with their spirits instantly lifted, if only momentarily. No one commands a room like Walken and after Gigli, no one will ever LEAVE a room quite like him again. It's his only scene, never to be heard from again, so we're sad for another hour until Pacino shows up to put the fear of God into everyone. And it works. Props on the fishtank, Marty, but this room belongs to Al. And then that's over, 100 minutes into a crime plot that should conceivably involve cops, FBI and hitmen instead of a three-character Arthur Miller play at the Casa de Gigli.

Affleck and Lopez will take some heat applied to their lack of on-screen chemistry. The media has inundated us with stories of the power couple and how they met on Gigli and became lovers afterwards. It shows and I'm not about to trounce on it until I see what occurs in Jersey Girl. Yes, they are actors and it's their JOB to pull it off, but how can you blame them when a screenplay makes them fight through the lesbian factor. This is the first time I actually enjoyed elements of Lopez's performance since Out of Sight. Even as the staunch Affleck defender that I am, there's very little to save him from criticism here. Then again, with such a script, you can almost hear Robin Williams saying "it's not your fault". Plus, he couldn't nearly be as bad as Lenny Venito's turn as Gigli's low-level bossman who tries to channel Joe Pantoliano in Midnight Run (a far superior Martin Brest film.)

Between suicidal stalking ex-lovers and homoerotic roster changes, the balance of the romantic comedy genre has never been more confused as to which side had less weight. When a movie is failing at such a dead zone level, it doesn't help to add John Powell's grating, fanciful score which doesn't miss a beat to remind audiences that the filmmakers were dead serious when making it. Sometimes it's good that films like Gigli get made. It's bad in that unwinking way where you can't even claim that a studio forced its hacking in the editing room. It plays straight through its absurdity and never stumbles into clarity. Film students can examine it and use it as a counterpoint to why films work at all. Maybe they can attach a pretentious film school-like subtext to it. But I doubt it. It's that bad. Gigli.

  

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83. "the titanic didn't sink this quick"
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Gigli Grade D

Gigli's Pronounced Really as in Really, Really Awful

http://romanticmovies.about.com/cs/gigli/a/giglireview.htm

What the hell was Ben Affleck thinking? Seriously. What was he thinking? J-Lo I can understand. But Affleck? It’s sad, so sad – oh and it’s bad, so very, very bad.

At least I can keep this review rather short. “Gigli” had no recognizable plot.

There’s something about two hit men (Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez – yeah, right) kidnapping a mentally challenged teenager (Justin Bartha) who is the younger brother of the Federal Prosecutor in charge of bringing Larry Gigli’s (Affleck) boss’ boss to trial. Got that? Don’t worry, you won’t be quizzed later. You can forget the plot, it means absolutely nothing to the film.

The main problems (that’s plural) include the severe case of overacting that hit the set right as the film was being made, a hit woman who isn’t in the least bit tough, a hit man who’s a throw-back to some bad TV movie from the 80s, dialogue that makes you want to heave your popcorn bucket at the screen, ludicrous unrelenting close-ups (if I wanted to know how many hairs Affleck has in his nose, I would have looked it up on the Internet), a kid whose problems seem to change from Tourette’s to Autism to whatever moves the plot along, every character telling Jennifer Lopez how beautiful she is, Lopez actually uttering the line, "It's turkey time, gobble, gobble," Christopher Walken’s almost indecipherable monologue, Al Pacino as a pony-tailed mob boss, the suicide attempt of Ricki’s (Lopez) lesbian lover in a bizarre scene that had no business being in the film, and oh yeah, the whole lesbian issue. Sure, one look at Gigli’s bulging muscles and she’s so gaga she forgets she’s a lesbian (or maybe she saw Affleck in “Chasing Amy” - another movie where he pursues a lesbian - and got confused). And the sex scene! Man, I can do without ever having to sit through something that torturous again. How could so much off screen heat generate not even a flicker on the screen? The vow this couple should exchange is to promise to never step foot in front of a movie camera together again as long as they both shall live.

Leaving the film my husband turned to me and said, “This wasn’t the worst film of the year.” True. I thought “Gods and Generals” was worse. But I walked out of “Gods and Generals” before it was over and had to sit through the entire 2 hours of “Gigli.” Tooth extraction without Novocain would have been less painful.

  

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Gigli-C+

http://www.filmblather.com/gigli.html

"The penis is like some sort of bizarre seaslug, or maybe even a really long toe."

I've been sitting here, racking my brain to come up with the name of any major studio film with advance buzz as disastrous as that of Columbia's Gigli -- pronounced "zheelee," though derisively referred to as "jiggly" or "giggly." I don't sit at my computer and sift through all the pre-release reports on every upcoming project, but this was inescapable. It was everywhere. People reportedly left test screenings thinking one word: "unreleasable." The director and producers allegedly almost came to blows over the ending. The poster -- a bland artwork showing Hollywood couple of the moment (or is it a few moments ago) Ben Affleck and Jennifer "J. Lo" Lopez in a tender embrace -- was airbrushed to make the actress's boobs bigger and butt smaller. Disaster. Unreleasable.
Well, I have actually seen Gigli. It's not a bad movie. Rather, it is a good movie approximately halfway through development. Three or four more rewrites and we would have really had something (actually, I've been told that we had something around three or four rewrites ago, so maybe that's the problem). Some script notes are definitely in order: pick a tone and stick with it, trim a few minutes of the fat (maybe more like twenty), cut some of the cutesy/knowing/laughable monologues (maybe more like all of them). Then carry on.

But directr Martin Brest (Scent of a Woman, the lengthy but elegant Meet Joe Black) was clearly not so critical of the script he himself wrote; in fact, he indulges more or less its every whim. The protagonist, Larry Gigli (Affleck, and yes, the secret's out, "Gigli" is indeed a last name) isn't just a tough guy doing jobs for the mob; he's a tough guy who proclaims himself things like "the master of slick" in long, profane, flowery speeches delivered at every opportunity. And Ricki (Lopez) isn't just a man-eating lesbian mafia contractor, she is a lesbian mafia contractor who threatens a group of punk-ass kids with a maneuver that will not only gouge their eyes out, but take most of the visual cortex with them.

Ricki and Larry are stuck together, watching a kidnapped retarded kid named Brian (Justin Bartha), the brother of a federal prosecutor who is threatening to indict a bigwig mob boss on a lot of very nasty charges. Larry lives in a limited space environment, so of course he and the gorgeous lesbian will have to share a bed -- that is, when they are not debating the various pros and cons of the penis and the vagina. The suspense is not so much whether they will have sex and/or fall in love, but how the script will get around the lesbian angle to get to it.

I want to mention that the sexuality of the Lopez character is blatantly and cynically ignored in all the marketing, because god forbid they saturate the market with the message that J. Lo is gay. The film, to its credit, is decidedly up front about it, tohugh the ending is, as expected, utterly neutral and non-committal -- it is not politically correct to actually convert a lesbian, but against the rules to have her send Ben packing, so the movie paints itself into a corner before it even begins. And thus Gigli doesn't exactly take a courageous leap of faith, but neither does it wimp out. Hey, I'll take it.

Other aspects of the film are similarly wavering. One minute, Ben and J. Lo are exchanging quips, and the next they are delivering monologues comparing parts of the body to... other parts of the body. The first two-thirds are laid back and leisurely, then Al Pacino shows up to jolt it awake, and then it unexpectedly turns to mawkish earnestness when it comes time (or past time) to wind up. Even the score goes from sounding like it was written for a porno to violins and choruses. The ending contains two resolutions, one for Brian and one for Ricki and Larry, and while the former is bizarrely touching, the latter is abrupt and unsatisfying.

Al Pacino is worth mentioning again, this time in the same sentence with Christopher Walken, as the two of them have near-cameo supporting roles that immediately drove me to the edge of my seat. Leave it to these guys to wake the half-baked Gigli out of its complacent stupor. Who knew that Ben Affleck, his infuriating smirk intact and in tow, and J. Lo, who doesn't need a bit of the aforementioned airbrushing, could be so boring together? Oh wait. I did. C+

  

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Gigli .5/4 stars
'Gigli' is a career disgrace for all those involved

http://www.ljworld.com/section/arts/story/140635

Hollywood's most overexposed couple are now responsible for making the most underdeveloped movie in recent memory.

How bad is "Gigli?"

Ah, where to begin ...

If the idea of Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez playing hired hoodlums isn't already enough to elicit an aneurysm, how about making their kidnapping victim a mentally challenged teen (Justin Bartha). Then throw in the fact that Affleck's title character is a mook who believes he's the "original gangster's gangster" and Lopez a Chinese philosophy-spewing lesbian.

How bad is the acting?

Bartha's performance may be the most cliché attempt at conveying a disability ever put on screen. The rookie actor -- whose previous film experience consists of being a production assistant on "Analyze This" -- behaves like a theater major who watched "Rain Man" over and over while smoking pot in his dorm room.
And did I mention that he raps? An adorable rendition of "Baby Got Back," no less.

Affleck is persuasive when he plays an uptight yuppie (as in the outstanding "Changing Lanes"). Yet in "Gigli" he struggles mightily trying to make this sexist, dumb, profane lummox watchable. The Sha Na Na haircut doesn't help matters.

That said, he's still better than Lopez. Clad in lo-rise jeans and midriff-baring blouses like most assassins, the woman succeeds in spending an entire movie talking about herself and never giving the audience any clue what she is about. It's simply impossible to get a handle on her character, and trying to "sex-it-up" through potty talk only makes her more baffling.

(A scene where the fleshy diva does yoga while blathering about her genitalia would be right at home in "The Vagina Monologues," but it has absolutely no place in a "romantic comedy.")

How bad is the production?

Writer/director Martin Brest ("Meet Joe Black") comes across like a filmmaker too afraid to yell "cut." He's so in love with his own words -- or so intimidated at leaving any of the blockbuster celebrities' work on the cutting-room floor -- that the movie backslides into a competing series of monologues ... five-minute monologues that feel longer than a senatorial filibuster.

This results in impossibly ill-conceived scenes such as a walk-on by Christopher Walken as a nosy detective who pesters Affleck. There are moments where seconds pass by without a word, movement or shift of facial expression during this endless exchange.

This is the first time I've ever attended a screening where the audience was screaming the word "edit!"

The only thing Brest seems to be good for is recruiting his old "Scent of a Woman" collaborator Al Pacino for a role as an irate mob boss. The Oscar-winner gives the movie its only tangible sense of energy (courtesy of a long monologue, of course), and insures that those who were already asleep will at least wake up for a spell.
How bad is the dialogue?

Usually, being exposed to profanity has little affect on me, but it's so instantly invasive in "Gigli" that I started to count the amount of F-words. I gave up when nearing 25 before the opening credits were finished.
Brest must think he's (expletive)ing Quentin Tarantino or something.

In addition to the obscenities, viewers are treated to other lovely turns of phrase. In one scene, Affleck uses his bada-Bing Crosby charm to serenade Lopez about how "every relationship has a bull and a cow," at which point he actually moos in her ear. This is rivaled by her ensuing sermon on oral sex that culminates with requesting that he "Gobble, gobble."

Don't worry folks, there will be even more talk of turkeys and cows when the other reviews of the film start rolling in.

If nothing else, "Gigli" should prove that no amount of pop culture exposure can get audiences into theaters when a movie is this barbarously boring. Not even the combined publicity of all those celebrity gossip shows, magazine covers, talk show appearances, album sales, clothing lines, etc., will bail "Beniffer" out of this abomination.

Considering Affleck and J-Lo's first professional coupling has resulted in "Gigli," let's pray they never have children.

  

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86. "hungry anteaters at a picnic don't suck this much"
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Gigli 2/4 stars

http://fantasticadaily.com/articles.php?articleId=1164

Okay, this is the movie we’ve all heard about. We know that it stars real-life couple Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez, and that the advance buzz is awful. Yes, there are critics calling this the worst movie ever made. And yes, those same critics have apparently seen Swept Away and Glitter (although the numerous comparisons are guided by the pop starlet actress appearance; I have yet to see it compared to Battlefield Earth). Ben plays Gigli (rhymes with “really”), a hired muscleman for a low-level gangster. He’s supposed to be a renowned tough guy, but his new employer (and the audience) is highly skeptical of the guy’s worth as such. He talks the talk, but we’re not sure he walks the walk. Anyway, his latest assignment is to kidnap a mentally handicapped man, brother of a federal prosecutor, in order to get some charges dropped against a particular high-level gangster. Gigli is paired up with a freelance tough guy – “Ricki” – played by Jennifer Lopez. The two don’t initially get along, but as things proceed, they start falling for each other, despite the fact that she is supposedly a lesbian.

The result is an uncomfortable mix of gangster drama and chick flick comedy. And it simply doesn’t work. However…

This is far from being the worst movie ever made. Misguided, certainly. Uneven, mm-hm. Recommended, nope. But… it has its moments. Individual scenes, if removed from the whole, have the ability to impress. Don’t get me wrong, there are plenty of scenes that don’t begin to work. And I’m sure that those are the ones by which other critics are preoccupied. And even the few good scenes are threatened by cliché. One of the more successful scenes of the movie -- near the end -- is nearly destroyed by the cheesiest repeated cutaways that I’ve ever seen. Surely Ben Affleck felt like a goofball acting his way through such eye-rolling shots.

Somewhat surprisingly, the characters are at least halfway believable and -- eventually -- interesting. Ben Affleck is convincing as a big dummy; I’m not sure whether that’s a compliment or not, but it’s meant to be. The guy who plays the mentally challenged kid (Justin Bartha, in his screen debut), he’s very good. His performance is possibly the best thing about the movie, and results in perhaps the film’s only real pay-off. Too bad we have to suffer through numerous wrong-headed scenes.

There are three notable walk-ons by actors in one-scene appearances. They are of Christopher Walken, Lainie Kazan, and Al Pacino. And each alone kind of works. These are examples of what I mentioned above, individual scenes that look like they belong in a good movie.

Even if we put Walken’s brief presence aside, the script has a tendency to steer in the direction of Pulp Fiction-ish casual discussions. But the movie can’t commit to the gimmick. And Ben Affleck’s character is such a meathead that you might not be able to tell that that’s what the filmmakers are going for with his scenes. Since the movie can’t decide that it really does want to be an over-the-top dark comedy, the tastelessness of a couple scenes seems terribly inappropriate.

Gigli is not, in my opinion, the new movie with which to compare future badness. While I can’t exactly recommend it (the premise just doesn’t cut it, and defeats any brief positives), you could do worse than to take a look at the movie when it comes on cable TV.

  

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87. "bet.com: maybe if r.kelly sang the title song"
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"Gigli" is Harder to Say Than Watch

http://www.bet.com/articles/0,1048,c5gb7007-7814,00.html

Posted August 1, 2003 -- "Gigli" is not the Antichrist of film you're being led to believe it is. It's not even the worst movie of the year (am I the only one who saw "Cradle 2 the Grave?") As a matter of fact, the religious right should make "Gigli" required viewing and Ben Affleck a saint. It seems Affleck, at least here and in the superior "Chasing Amy," has the ability to turn gay women straight. That's right, his co-star and real life fiancé Jennifer Lopez is playing a lesbian here, but don't worry, she's only "movie gay" - that brand of homosexuality that folds in the face of a pleading male and the fact that it's featured in a romantic comedy.

Oddly enough, it's easier to buy J. Lo as a lesbian (despite the fact that her career was built on men looking at her assets) than it is to buy her, or Affleck for that matter, as contract killers reluctantly put together to kidnap a rich Senator's mildly mentally challenged brother. Look, I didn't buy Affleck as a brooding superhero in the dismal "Daredevil," so making him into a hit man doesn't work either. To his credit, director Martin Brest must have eyed the chasm he was asking audiences to jump with this one and decided to go light on the tough guy act. Instead, he let Affleck do what he does best - be a self-deprecating schmoe. Despite a good performance in "Changing Lanes," there's nothing conflicted about Mr. Lopez and is best suited when he's wisecracking or looking fairly defeated in the face of beautiful women.

Which brings us to J. Lo and the one thing that this film has going for it - chemistry between the stars. Despite reports to the contrary, I thought they genuinely look enamored with each other, and they should since this is the film that sparked their real romance. When Lopez's Ricki, the calm, cool and collected of the duo, breezes into his apartment in dangerously low hip-huggers, you can see why Affleck fell in love. Like the men in the audience, Affleck's Larry Gigli is in awe of Lopez who saunters and sways across the screen with the confidence of a scantily dressed Mac truck. In one scene, sure to be rewound over and over once it hits your DVD collection, the camera literally slides over her famous curves as she simultaneously does yoga and educates Gigli about the superiority of a vagina over the penis.

Of course one has to question why a woman, with no sexual interest in the man whose bed she's sharing, would continue to wear booty shorts and tissue-thin tops. The answer is because Ricki's sexuality is not really a genuine obstacle to love as much as it is a way to further entice Gigli into lipstick lesbian fantasies. It's a mere character flaw, like squeezing the toothpaste from the top instead of the bottom or hogging the covers.

Likewise, their kidnapped victim is mentally retarded in a way that makes for good comic relief or overly sweet moments rendered in slow motion and accompanied by emotionally charged strings. As Brian, actor Justin Bartha, essentially keeps a far-away look in his eyes and a crooked grin to convince us that he's, uh, you know, special. He's "Rain Man Episode 1" and, ultimately, his only purpose is to bring out Gigli's soft side and make us laugh as he recites the lyrics to rap songs (a gag used for the umpteenth time behind "Head of State," "Bringing Down the House" and "Malibu's Most Wanted

Speaking of recycled, screen giants Christopher Walken and Al Pacino show up to do their usual shtick (Walken's cop stares and Pacino's gangster yells) in two overly long scenes you can tell are there simply because the director couldn't believe the stars agreed to sign on. Actually, few things in this film seem necessary. The idea of the two as gangsters is stupid and the kidnapping plot is so aggressively touchy-feely that it ends up being the equivalent of a forced kiss for your grandmother. Sadly, "Gigli" doesn't have enough charm or wit to distract from it's plodding pace or leaps in logic. But for all those looking to hate on J and B Lo, the truth is the two actually work well together. Sure, Ben's arm ink and Lopez's lesbianism feel like the temporary tattoos you get from Target, but there's no denying that there's something real between them, something that would be better served without the gangster side dishes.

  

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88. "washington post: chemistry can't right what is left"
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'Gigli': This Star Vehicle Is A Lemon

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A11054-2003Jul31.html

Ben and Jen? After seeing "Gigli," I think Ben and Jerry could make a better movie. "Gigli" is certainly bereft of low pleasures: It's both giggle-free and jiggle-free. Worse, it's enervated, torpid, slack, dreary and, oh yes, nasty, brutish and long.

Summed up in a bumper sticker it would come out as: Have you hugged your kidnapper today?

Ach. Oy. Woe and poo, bleccch and uck! ZZZZZ-zzz. Ben (Affleck) plays Larry and Jen (Lopez) plays Ricki. Both are, um, "contractors," meaning, facilitators for certain mob transactions against private citizens that call for the use of force. Before the world went all icky touchy-feely on us, they used to be called "enforcers" and before that "thugs."

Anyhow, they are ordered (by separate clients) to kidnap the brain-damaged brother of a federal prosecutor who is putting the heat on a New York mobster. They are to hold that sad, wounded boy, whose painful autism is played for chuckles and yuks, as a means of leveraging the prosecutor to back off, though that whole part of the story is left undramatized, except as justification for a late, showy cameo by Al Pacino.

But most of the movie is Ben and Jen spatting, attitudinizing and improvising in a poorly decorated L.A. apartment to the pretend delight of the poor boy, impersonated by Justin Bartha, who has spent entirely too much time watching Dustin Hoffman in "Rain Man."

Regardless of the off-screen reality, Ben and Jen have very little electricity on-screen. He's locked into a shameless, pasty John Travolta imitation while she's -- well, she's -- hmmm. I don't know what she's doing. Whatever it is, it's not terribly amusing. But that's okay, because she's very poorly dressed and barely awake. This is her snooziest performance ever, if "performance" is quite the word. She can barely be stirred to wipe the sleep out of her eyes.

In fact, the whole grotesque thing feels like a movie originally written for Sean Penn and Madonna in their brief fling at celebrity dating. It's about on a level with "Shanghai Surprise," the only celluloid residue of the Penn-Madonna linkage. But I still think Penn and Madonna would have had the higher wisdom to nix this project.

The criminal mind behind this is Martin Brest, who hit the bigs many years back with "Beverly Hills Cop" and has been desperately trying to make it back to the smalls ever since. He may have finally made it. It's even worse than his last film, "Meet Joe Black," which many considered his worst.

The movie has no structure at all, no sense of urgency, no compelling reason to exist or be endured whatsoever. The scenes play on and on and on, and the story wends down byways of no consequence whatsoever. In one scene, Lopez's former lover shows up and commits a gaudy mock-suicide with razor blades over the loss of her serene majesty. The lover, I should add, is female, for the Lopez character is a self-announced lesbian.

So, in the middle of the strangely sluggish film, we have one scene of screaming scenery- eating, culminating in a bloody act of self-mutilation. This is followed by an emergency room scene, and then by . . . nothing. It connects with nothing. It means nothing. It was simply an audition by the obscure actress Missy Crider.

There's another disconnected tidbit in which Lopez's character launches into one of those speeches we doubt ever got speechified: It's a poetic invocation of oral sex, and what is remarkable about it is that, using incredible discipline, Brest is able to force himself to build a scene around a part of her body other than her butt! Now that's a pro!

Equally feckless are cameos by two great actors, Christopher Walken and the aforementioned Pacino. Each is gaudy and explosive and so meaningless as to be instantly forgettable. In fact, I had so totally repressed the appearance of Walken that it slipped into my unconsciousness and only a friend's mention recalled it.

But what is most appalling about this whole appalling thing is its complete disinterest in the victim of the plot it chronicles so listlessly. It never acknowledges, really, that for an autistic child, such an event would be shattering. Instead, he's played for laughs, as a kind of punching bag for Affleck and as an object of reduction and condescension for Lopez. This tough treatment improves him and, of course, improves them, too. He's the therapist, not them. It's really all about them, you see.

But these days . . . what isn't?

  

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89. "cranky critic gets his dream film"
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Gigli

http://www.crankycritic.com/archive03/gigli.html

Blame writer/director Martin Brest or blame the suit that OK'd his vision but that vision needs contact lenses. Perhaps Brest or the suit figured it would be a clever idea to have A-list actors, playing unlikable characters engaged in disreputable jobs, placed in untenable professional and sexual situations. We're also guessing that the studio folks are counting on the real life romance between stars Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez to pique your interest and get you to open your wallets. It doesn't help that the screen chemistry between the two in this screenplay is intentionally invisible and only bursts out of the screen when the audience is staggering for the exits. "Staggering" is the appropriate adjective for a movie which mixes mobsters, kidnapping, murder, jealous lovers, lesbianism, incompetent police with a ridiculous amount of four letter words.

There's a big difference between being anti-politically correct, which is what Gigli is aiming for, and flat out vulgar, which is what Gigli is. We don't have a problem with four letter words. We do have a problem when those four letter words are just about all the characterization that a script provides. 50 minutes in to this bomb, one character yells "I'm getting tired of this!" In our theater, one audience member yelled back "Me too!" An hour after that we were still waiting for Gigli to decide exactly what its point was supposed to be.

You know the story. Boy meets Girl. Boy wants nothing to do with Girl. Girl could care less 'cuz she's job oriented. She's got other orientation issues as well but we'll leave that one alone. Boy isn't all that thrilled that girl isn't all that thrilled. Still, she's seventeen on a scale of one to ten so maybe, once they slice the thumb off the "mentally handicapped" kid they're holding hostage and mail it to his brother, there's always the hope of a ride into the sunset, together.

Wait. It gets better.

No. It doesn't.

Gigli is a pissing match between sexually incompatible people -- there is a sex scene which, when it finally happened, had the femmes sitting behind us muttering "This is absurd" -- debating the proper places of male and female (or bull and cow in this vernacular) in a theoretical relationship. It is also supposed to be, ultimately, romantic . . . and we all know that romances are never funny, especially when an enraged ex (Missy Crider) gets in the way. But we're getting ahead of ourselves.

Larry Gigli (Ben Affleck) is a dumb, tattooed mook from New Jersey. He is muscle for an LA based mobster named Louis (Lenny Venito), who wants to score points with a New York-based "friend of a friend". This mobster, Starkman (Al Pacino), is in trouble with the Feds so Louis sends Gigli to kidnap the local Federal prosecutor's brother Brian (Justin Bartha) to put extortion pressure on the Fed. Unbeknownst to Larry, a philosophy reading, too hot for words hit man called Ricki (Jennifer Lopez) -- is brought in from out of town because the job is just "too big" for one man to handle.

How big is " too big"? Not so big that Gigli's already done the human heist without the interference of any security organization at the group home where these poor kids drool their days away. While Justin Bartha doing a Rainman imitation with lots of four letter words in his dialog is occasionally entertaining, we're paying to see a different bond being formed. That pairing, unfortunately, offers little to hold our interest for the next hour and a half. It's supposed to be the old oil and water miraculously mix thing but it's all smoke and mirrors. Gigli's script is more a debate about sex roles without the charm of tart tongued sex comedies of old.

On an almost regular schedule, right out of a "how to write screenplays" book, come the occasional conflicts designed to add tension and/or amuse or shock. Sure, Detective Jacobellis (Christopher Walken) shows up for a couple of entertaining minutes. He's pretty much figured out the kidnap game but doesn't do a damned thing about it (that would get in the way of developing the impossible man woman subplot). Ditto the appearance of Lainie Kazan as Gigli's mother. She gives a hearty thumbs up to her son's "adventurous" gal pal (and her scene offers the longest obscenity free minutes of the film). Lest you fall in danger of nodding off, the film's third conflict point is a meeting with the psychopathic mob boss Starkman to keep our "heroes" on edge. It's all Pacino shtick but the actor does more with his five minutes on screen than any of the other actors do with whatever time they get. That says a lot because Lopez' performance wipes the floor with every other actor in the film.

Seriously, Lopez is that good. In this case, Jenny's block is the gutter. Gigli is a stunning bore of a movie but Lopez is stunning. Ok, now we're talking about the body, too. Excepting one obvious omission in the script, and given the sexual bent of all of the conversations we can't figure out why her character cannot use the phrase "don't get your panties in a twist," Lopez delivers the only major performance that rings true. We don't believe Affleck as a mobster from Jersey. We don't Walken as a detective. Kazan and Pacino are mostly disposable shtick though, rounding out the supporting cast, Larry Venito is dead on as the loser mobster and we recognize him from similar roles.

J. Lo does show off her fab bod while talking dirty, which makes Gigli the equivalent of phone sex without the phones or any element of sexuality.

On average, a first run movie ticket will run you Ten Bucks. Were Cranky able to set his own price to Gigli, he would have paid . . .

$1.00

  

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90. "edit: pulled another gigli"
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sorry.

but since you're reading this,

i still would have sex with jennifer lopez. i'm just saying. i'm not so sure about ben affleck anymore though. lol.

  

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91. "the hartford courant. yup, that's what i said."
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Gigli 2/4 stars

'Gigli,' As In Really Not Worth The Effort
Affleck, J.Lo Stuck In Quagmire Of Lame Gags In Martin Brest's Tired Romantic Comedy

http://www.ctnow.com/entertainment/movies/reviews/hc-giglirev.artaug01,0,1566423.story?coll=hc-headlines-moviereviews

It is impossible to guess what drew the reigning lovebirds of supermarket tabloids to a would-be romantic comedy that casts them as a hard-boiled lesbian and a semi-literate thug with a secret yen to try on eye shadow. But there they are, Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck, struggling in vain to animate Martin Brest's "Gigli."

As one of the lame running gags in Brest's film centers on the pronunciation of the title, it is well to get that matter out of the way quickly. It rhymes with "really," Affleck's California hoodlum Larry Gigli is wont to point out. A real Italian would say "JEEL-yee," but Larry is not the type to worry about authenticity. He is too dumb for that, though he regards himself as "the Sultan of Slick."

A younger John Travolta might have invested a modicum of appeal in a guy like Larry. But Affleck gives us only the surface: the carefully groomed crest of hair, the muscled shoulder with a blurry tattoo in many colors. Then there are the accoutrements: the leather jacket, the silver-blue 1967 Impala Supersport. It all adds up to a cipher, though one with a heart, as it turns out.

Lopez's Ricki (or so she calls herself) is a more complex figure, obviously gorgeous but also brainy in a quirky sort of way. While Larry lives in a beige world without books, Ricki can often be seen reading "Being Peace," the meditations of the Vietnamese Buddhist Zen master Thich Nhat Hanh. Ricki also quotes Sun Tzu on the art of war. She is quite the Orientalist, and Lopez makes her a far more intriguing character than Larry.

Seen as a comparison of the respective acting talents of the two lovers, "Gigli" clearly favors J-Lo. She even manages to pull off a monologue in which Ricki expostulates on her reasons for preferring the female pudenda to the male organ, as she stretches like a cat on an exercise mat.

But "Gigli" has a story to tell, and it is a sentimental and sometimes irritating one, a junior edition of "Rain Man."

Near the start of Brest's film, Larry is assigned by an exceedingly vile mobster named Louis to kidnap a young man with mild retardation named Brian, the younger brother of a district attorney building a case against the hood. Ricki shows up, as a backup assigned to help the sometimes inept Larry. In time, of course, the three become a kind of family.

Justin Bartha does fairly well by Brian, though his high giggle can be annoying. The central idea about Brian is his obsession with "The Baywatch" - not the television program, he explains, but the thing itself. Larry keeps Brian, who is prone to hysterical outbursts, under control by promising an excursion to "The Baywatch."

As Larry and Ricki are holding Brian prisoner in Larry's bland, no-security bachelor digs, the credibility of the situation soon wears thin - especially after a visit by a wacky detective, played in an especially outré reading by Christopher Walken. Surely Brian's brother could track down the kidnapped youth. But except for the nutty detective's call, nothing impinges on the ménage a trios, until Lenny Venito's swinish Louis demands that one of Brian's thumbs be sent to the kid's big brother.

Before the arrival of this tricky bit of business, "Gigli" sort of dawdles along, with one faintly amusing bit for Lainie Kazan, whose big Mama summons Larry to administer a gluteal injection. Mother plays the matchmaker while flirting with Ricki and alluding to her own Sapphic past. Later, Missy Crider's beautiful, butch Robin tears into Larry's digs in hopes of repossessing her lost Ricki.

At the climax, after the offbeat courtship between Larry and Ricki, Al Pacino's godfather, Starkman, pops up to heat up the proceedings (perhaps as a reward to Brest for helping him to win the Oscar for "Scent of a Woman"). But even a whiff of Pacino prosciutto cannot save "Gigli," which sometimes seems longer than Brest's last effort, the incredibly elongated rendezvous with death called "Meet Joe Black."

  

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92. "baltimore:worse than oriole pre-season games?"
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An affair to forget
Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez fall flat on their pretty faces in the dumb, dull 'Gigli'

http://www.sunspot.net/entertainment/movies/bal-to.gigli01aug01,0,7885310.story?coll=bal-movies-utility

Jennifer Lopez casts a queer eye on her straight guy - Ben Affleck - in Martin Brest's excruciating Gigli.

Affleck plays the title role: a low-level Los Angeles mob thug assigned to kidnap the mentally challenged kid brother of a federal prosecutor who is making life hard for an East Coast godfather (Al Pacino). Lopez plays a lesbian hit woman assigned to ensure that Gigli doesn't bungle the job.

From the moment Affleck declares that in every relationship "there's a bull and a cow," they make hideous chin music together. The centerpiece amounts to a one-act play that could be called The Penis and Vagina Dialogue: He salutes the phallus with a few manly adjectives and hand gestures; she celebrates the female sex organ while contorting her loins and torso on an exercise mat. For those who wonder how an affable lightweight like Affleck could hold the screen against an iron-willed diva like Lopez, the answer is: He doesn't. The script aims to redeem Gigli but just humiliates Affleck. It's about this sorry lug releasing his feminine side and learning to love a woman with a masculine side. After they finally get it on, in post-coital bliss, he says, "Moo."

Set up like an action comedy, the movie proves to be singularly unfunny and static almost from the non-get-go. Virtually nothing happens; the movie is all premise. What eats up the minutes? Gender patriotism. Plus, the simple (and simple-minded) plot gets rehashed with minimum variations every time a new character enters the picture, including the under-used Pacino and Chris Walken (as a cop), who have one scene each. Director Brest also wrote the screenplay. He must think it's hilarious to provide generic crooks with labored verbal ticks. Brest even resorts to the well-worn gimmick of having Affleck's immediate boss (Lenny Venito) teach himself one word a day. It gets you wondering whether his actors ever learned the meaning of the word "no."

Affleck keeps protesting that Gigli rhymes with "really," not "jiggly," but the word "real" should never be used in connection with any aspect of this movie. It's impossible to name the disorder afflicting Justin Bartha as the lovable damaged boy and kidnap victim, who at times appears semi-autistic yet keeps blurting out the truth. Bartha yearns to see what he calls "the Baywatch" the way Dustin Hoffman in Rain Man yearned for Judge Wapner - except Bartha is re-imagining Baywatch as a reality show. As a character he exists only to bring together two hit-people and provide a sentimental finish. In his own cold-blooded fashion, Pacino's mob boss wins the audience's allegiance simply by declaring, way too late, that kidnapping this kid makes no sense.

With each move, the characters suggest that they're more retarded than their victim. In a typical low point, Affleck's Gigli, ordered to sever one of the kid's thumbs, merely slices off a thumb from a random cadaver. Of course, Affleck's Gigli isn't supposed to be swift. He doesn't have a book in his house. When the kidnapped boy wants a bedtime story, Gigli resorts to reciting the ingredients in Tabasco sauce.

But Lopez is meant to be a smartie - after all, she devours Eastern philosophy. This allows the star to act like "Jennifer from the block" one moment and to flesh out her risible notion of a self-taught sophisticate the next. It's a monumentally irritating performance, as coy as it is cocksure.

In a sign of this movie's supposed sexual liberation, she tells Gigli that he'd look good with mascara. Amazingly, he doesn't bolt from the car. (In today's new arthouse movie Respiro, when Valeria Golino tells a macho fisherman he could use some rouge, he bristles.) Brest may think he's made a meaningful statement about the many colors of the sexual spectrum. But what he shovels in this movie is the same old "opposites-attract" fertilizer, whether it emanates from a cow or a bull.

  

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93. "denver:nosebleed from the elevation or the film?"
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Gigli 1.5/4 stars
Neither love story nor mob tale, 'Gigli' confuses

http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~82~1543332,00.html

When first we meet mob muscle Larry Gigli, he's up in our collective faces.
Peering into the camera, he asks with a frosty curiosity, when you tied that shoe in the morning, did you imagine the coroner would be untying it at the end of the day?

Gigli (Ben Affleck), it turns out, is talking to a guy wedged into an industrial-size dryer. The unlucky schlump owes Gigli's boss, Louis, money. Gigli has skipped putting him through the wringer, threatening him instead with the permanent press cycle.

But we soon figure out what Louis (Lenny Venito) already knows about his employee. For all his intimations of menace, Larry Gigli ("rhymes with really") is an ambivalent, half-hearted wise guy. So, when Louis gives Gigli a big job, he also hires a backup contractor by the name of Ricki.

In an effort to impress his boss (Al Pacino), who's under investigation by the feds, Louis had Gigli kidnap a federal prosecutor's brother. When Gigli opens his apartment door to Jennifer Lopez's Ricki, he has already abducted Brian from a center for the handicapped.

Initially Ricki's arrival is a curse for Gigli but a blessing for Brian. His tics and spasms, his Tourette's Syndrome-style cussing, frustrate and infuriate Larry, though it is already clear Gigli's brutality is limited to impotent ranting. He is the sort of goodfella more likely to interrupt his work to give his mom (Lainie Kazan) a shot in the rear when her nurse isn't available.

Ricki is more hard-core. At least she's supposed to be. In one scene she uses the Sun Tzu's "Art of War" to teach a posse of Eminem wannabes a lesson in civility.

Writer-director Brest is going for a yin-yang tango of gender roles here. She's a little more yang. She's also a lesbian.

Contrary to his bluster and bull about being a bull, Gigli's got a softer side. Lovely tattoos and hard body aside, he still checks his fingernails like a girl.

None of these twists amounts to a heartfelt laugh or intentional insight about the state of male-female relationships.

Like its title character, "Gigli" is beset by contradictory impulses. Is it a romantic comedy? Not really. A mob picture? Hardly. A love story? Maybe, but a love story between a bonehead and a lesbian.

They fall for each other. In a sense they fall for Brian, too, enough to create a blended family of misfits.

Brian's nascent sexuality is the most provocative aspect of "Gigli." This is a kid whose desire is shaped by popular culture.

Justin Bartha's Brian yearns to visit the world of "Baywatch." He raps a version of Sir-Mix-Alot's "Baby Got Back." He grabs his crotch and gives a shout out to his homey Larry.

As for the cameo appearances of Christopher Walken as a cop and Al Pacino as Louis' smarmy boss, neither brings even his customary charge to the fray.

Martin Brest has nothing on his resume to suggest he knows what to do with Jennifer Lopez. Too bad. As Karen Sisco in "Out of Sight," Lopez was so spot on that the character has been spun off to a TV show this fall on ABC (not starring Lopez). Sisco is what Ricki could have been.

"Gigli" makes a bid for that rare honor: The movie so bad it's good. It falls short.

The film ends, or should have, on a triumphant but bittersweet note. Had it had the courage of its convictions, something about love and borderlines might have been salvaged. But the director - and his stars - could not leave well enough alone.

At its best, Gigli is case study in a certain type of male fantasy. Or is it anxiety? Both, it seems: the fear of being replaced and the fantasy of being irreplaceable.

  

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Gigli Grade D

We're happy that Ben and J. Lo at least found off-screen chemistry

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/movies/133166_gigli01.html

Ben Affleck swaggers under a crooked, cocky grin as the self-proclaimed "sultan of slick" Larry Gigli ("rhymes with really"). At times a calmly effective debt collector with minor league style, at other times a gangster wannabe with a short fuse and delusions of adequacy, this thickheaded underworld contractor thinks he's the Springsteen of Italian American street thugs.

He winds up more of a Sonny Bono when his cockroach of a loan shark boss (Lenny Venito) foists upon him a sassy Cher -- actually a yoga-practicing lesbian named Ricki (Jennifer Lopez) -- and turns his solo act into a duet.

In the course of their joint operation -- kidnapping a mentally disabled kid (Justin Bartha) to extort his powerful brother -- the two spar in sexual arguments that cross the line of inexplicability, and they learn to love the big kid like a pet. It's hard to tell what writer/director Martin Brest ("Meet Joe Black") had in mind when he concocted his odd couple romance.

Affleck preens like a thick-headed pretty-boy yo-yoing between personality extremes while Lopez fares better as the New Age criminal contractor, but vies with her behind for face time with Brest's ogling camera. Together they generate all the heat of a snowball.

As if to distract us, Christopher Walken momentarily steps in from Walkenland and pours out his trademark ticks and mannerism in a clipped, halting monologue, just to drop a plot point that should have been handled with more finesse and less wasted effort.

Al Pacino (apparently paying back Brest for his "Scent of a Woman" Oscar) tosses his past performances into a blender and pours out a growling Pacino gangster smoothie for his one scene.

Anyone on the Internet grapevine already has the news: "Gigli" is this summer's rotten egg. But buzz can be deceiving. Anyone expecting a cinematic train wreck on the scale of "Showgirls" will be disappointed.

There is no histrionic excess or crackpot camp, only hoary sentiment, the puppy-dog cuteness of the mentally handicapped, and the proposition that the "cure" for lesbianism is one good man brave enough to get in touch with his inner cow. Moo.

  

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95. "you would think in l.a. bad films are daily news"
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Gigli 1/4 stars
Let the autopsy on 'Gigli' begin

http://u.dailynews.com/Stories/0,1413,211~23516~1544327,00.html

HBO's reality series "Project Greenlight" is filled to the brim with bizarre moviemaking moments. Everyone has their favorite _ mine came early while watching Ben Affleck give fledgling writer Erica Beeney his detailed script notes. You can imagine Beeney thinking, "The guy who made 'Daredevil,' 'Reindeer Games,' 'Pearl Harbor,' 'Bounce' and 'Armageddon' thinks he knows something about good writing? I don't have to listen, right?"

One can only imagine what Affleck had to say at the story meeting for the train wreck that is his latest movie, "Gigli." What can you say about a screenplay that peaks when Affleck reads a Tabasco sauce label? Who knows _ maybe writer-director Martin Brest originally called for Affleck to read from a bottle of ketchup until Affleck hit upon the idea of switching it to Tabasco. "It's spicier, Marty, and I feel that would be truer for my character."

Whatever. There are no characters in "Gigli" (pronounced ZHEE-lee) per se, just Affleck and Jennifer Lopez unconvincingly playing low-level street thugs who are baby-sitting the kidnapped brother of a federal prosecutor. Said brother, Brian (newcomer Justin Bartha), comes afflicted with autism, Tourette syndrome (with heavy emphasis on the profanity) and an unfortunate partiality to the songs of Sir Mix-A-Lot.

Before the aforementioned baby-sitting begins, Gigli (Affleck) kidnaps Brian from his assisted living home, unaware of his prominent connection to a federal prosecutor. He's simply doing the bidding of his crime boss, Louis (Lenny Venito, doing a really bad imitation of Joe Pesci in "GoodFellas"). Louis doesn't trust Gigli, so he sends Ricki (Lopez) to Gigli's apartment to assist. Although we don't see her hauling her belongings, Ricki must arrive with a trunk full of clothes, makeup and hair-care products, given that Lopez has more costume changes in a day than Cher does during a concert.

I'll take it one step further. Lopez's character looks like she arrived with her own $6,000-a-day stylist, which brings up one of the fundamental problems of the movie. Never for a second do you believe in the reality of any of these characters. Affleck is about as credible a hit man (even one with a sensitive side) as one of the guys from the Wiggles, while Brest seems more interested in putting Lopez in a yoga workout video ("J.Lo Does Tha' Hatha! Plus Makeover Tips!") than in defining her character beyond her sexual orientation. (She's a lesbian, but wavering.)

Brest is the movie's main problem. You'd think that after the interminable "Meet Joe Black," somebody would have handed this guy a stopwatch and made him use it. Nope. "Gigli" clocks in at more than 2 hours _ 90 minutes of which must be spent with the camera lingering on Lopez and Affleck while they gaze meaningfully at each other.

And those long, long looks are supposed to mean something _ John Powell's sappy score tells us so. But what? That two characters can banter with sexual frankness but make love with their clothes on? That shouting Al Pacino will scream even louder than normal when his screen time is reduced to a cameo? That Christopher Walken can be the best part of the movie simply by ignoring everything around him? That references to Sir Mix-A-Lot and "Baywatch" make "Gigli" seem like oh-so-10-years-ago.

Or maybe it all means nothing except that "Gigli" should have gone straight to video and that if I were Kevin Smith and had a movie starring Affleck and Lopez in the can ("Jersey Girl"), I'd be very, very afraid.

  

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96. "and these people greenlit the anna nicole show"
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Gigli Grade C

http://www.eonline.com/Reviews/Facts/Movies/Reviews/0,1052,88123,00.html

While it's not a total train wreck, this Bennifer comedy is bad for many reasons. In a plot that's just as weak as it sounds, Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez play mobster types who kidnap a mentally challenged kid (Justin Bartha) in order to stop his brother from testifying against their boss. And, yes, J.Lo plays a lesbian. The movie sucks for its sloppy direction, use of a disabled character for laughs, Affleck's bad accent (and hair), a tacked-on über-happy ending and the insinuation that lesbians can go hetero whenever they want. However, some laughs sneak through. Lopez holds her own as a strong woman, and Affleck isn't afraid to goof on himself at times. And, really, when else are you going to see some kid cuss out Affleck? Or watch J.Lo do sexy yoga poses while talking about her down-there parts? Worth it just to make fun of it with your friends.

  

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97. "um. . . um . . .a hoover cleaner doesn't-well, you know"
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Gigli 2/4 stars

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/entertainment/reviews.nsf/Movie/0BB87406C1976BD186256D740056F101?OpenDocument

Hold your horses, "Seabiscuit," there's a new entry in the box-office derby and its name is "Gigli." It rhymes with "really," and this reporter is predicting that it will gallop out of the theaters really, really fast.

If anyone is actually interested in the on-screen chemistry between tabloid mainstays Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez, that curiosity is not likely to survive the despicable setup that precedes their meeting.

Affleck plays Larry Gigli, a mob leg-breaker who was raised in LA but somehow has a New Yawk accent and all the wiseguy accouterments. After showing too much mercy to a mooch, Gigli gets a last-chance assignment from his handler, Louis (Lenny Venito, an actor who is so repulsive he makes Tom Sizemore look like Fred Astaire). Gigli is ordered to kidnap Brian (Justin Bartha), a retarded teen whose older brother is a federal prosecutor.

In the first of many cavernous plot holes, Gigli simply escorts Brian out of a group home, while the kid recites rap lyrics and demands to be driven to the set of "Baywatch." Instead, they go to Gigli's bachelor pad.

The recipe for a big, gooey life lesson is completed with the surprise arrival of Ricki (Lopez). Ricki is another mob cutthroat, sent to keep an eye on Gigli and the kid, yet the script by director Martin Brest ("Scent of a Woman") does nothing to sell or explain this ludicrous proposition. Indeed, it makes Ricki a new-age lesbian who befriends the kid and resists Gigli's inevitable macho propositions.

Affleck, who's never been worse, gets a few grudging points for the way he preens before his first night in bed with the take-charge intruder. But he gives those points back when he has to share a scene with the wondrously weird Christopher Walken, who has a cameo as a cop who suspects Gigli of the kidnapping yet never bothers to look around the apartment.

Notwithstanding a last-act arrival by nutcase capo Al Pacino, the half-baked kidnapping plot is never treated as anything more than a backdrop for the romantic roundelay.

The highlight is J. Lo doing yoga stretches while extolling the virtues of girl-girl love. By letting the camera do most of the work, the amply curved actress overshadows her co-star/boyfriend, and there's a disturbing, through-the-looking-glass quality to a scene in which he is forced to play the sexual submissive.

But the few kinky or violent deviations from the romantic-comedy formula collide so hard with the abandoned subplots that the whole thing induces a headache. A really, really big one.

  

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98. "3 stars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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Gigli 3/4 stars
Hot couple a winning pair in 'Gigli'

http://www.post-gazette.com/movies/20030801gigli0801fnp3.asp

The idea is to kidnap the retarded brother of a federal prosecutor in order to dissuade him from sending a mob don to jail. As crime brainstorms go, this one was concocted by a real wit -- but dim or half?

Even less brilliant than the plan is the executor, a wannabe thug named Larry Gigli (Ben Affleck). That's pronounced "zhee-lee," not "giggly," he has to keep correcting people. In his own words (and mind), he is "the sultan of slick" -- a powerful hot-cross bun between Elvis, Ricky Nelson and the young James Caan.

Larry looks the part, all right, but his brain is a step or two behind his brawn throughout "Gigli," the lively new action-romance by Martin Brest.

Larry's competence is dubious even to his employers. Right after he nabs the boy, they send a second contractor to join him and make sure he does the job right. Insult to injury: It's a woman (Jennifer Lopez).

But Larry is nothing if not adaptable. As a prelude to allowing her to have sex with him ("a one-time offer"), he pumps himself up in front of the bathroom mirror with an ode to the "male machinery and design." He's like Ralph Cramden setting himself up to be shot down by Alice, and this Alice has very good aim. God's gift to Lopez? She begs to differ -- no, she insists on differing in a fabulous monologue on the aesthetic difference (and relative desirability) of the male and female anatomy.

The good news: She's beautiful and smart. The bad news: She's a lesbian.

Or is she lying?

Meanwhile, there's the ongoing annoyance of Brian, their hostage (Justin Bartha). He's a "psychologically challenged" Rain Boy with a little Tourette's syndrome thrown in, obsessively nagging Larry to take him to see the "real" Baywatch chicks. ("It's not my fault I'm brain-damaged.") Brian insists on being read to sleep every night, even if it's only the tabasco bottle label or the back of the Charmin wrapper. Larry doesn't own any books.

Writer-director Martin Brest's offbeat characters have been a screen treat in every quirky action-comedy he has made: "Going in Style" (1979), "Beverly Hills Cop" (1984 -- did you know Eddie Murphy was a last-minute replacement for Sly Stallone!) and "Midnight Run" (1988), among others. If De Niro's Marty is Scorsese, Al Pacino's is Brest -- who gave him his Oscar ticket in "Scent of a Woman."

Pacino gives back here, with one of two fabulous cameo appearances that, by themselves, make the film worth seeing: The first comes early on from Christopher Walken as a weird, weary, wild-eyed cop who never lets go of his styrofoam coffee cup. He suspects yet can't prove anything on Affleck but drops by just to monsterize him, on principle.

Pacino's later star turn is even more hilarious, fueled by his even more maniacal eyes. "Come in, come in! Sit down, sit down! Listen to me, I say everything twice!" he babbles -- before finishing off the hilarity with a touch of "Pulp Fiction" horror. Walken and Pacino each has a grand total of one scene, but boy, do they both make the most of it.

Bonus: a third bizarre character, who also bursts in for just one funny scene -- Lopez's furious jilted lover.

"It must be mental illness week," sighs Larry.

Affleck and Lopez haven't heretofore been favorites of mine, but they're getting to be -- thanks to these well-written parts that give them something to do other than look beautiful. Newcomer Bartha is charming. Lainie Kazan as Larry's over-the-top mom is not.

The "serious" romantic and sexual soul-searching, when it inevitably occurs, is pretty fast, loose and glib. But hey, this isn't Ingmar Bergman -- although there is a Swedish connection: Brest's entertaining twist on the Stockholm syndrome.

  

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109. "Ben's Mom wrote that one"
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118. "no, the retarded kid from the movie did"
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whoever did, something is suspect. next to a review that said "only a minor failure" that's the one positive write-up gigli has gottten.

  

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99. "pittsburgh tribune:steel this movie"
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'Gigli' an exercise in bad taste

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/entertainment/movies/reviews/s_147452.html

You're probably going to hear "Gigli" is terrible. What's terrible is that by the standards of the day, it's practically average.

Believe one word of the Southern California-based "Gigli," you understand, and you'll be shipped to reality rehab in a padded wagon. But we won't tally the movies you could apply that condition to.

The film is such an exercise in unconscious bad taste that everyone involved seems to be clueless in multiple dimensions. File this one under "What were they thinking of?"

Larry Gigli (Ben Affleck), who pronounces his name Jeeley, as in really, is the sort of leg-breaker and hit man who is so obviously ripe for redemption that it's his past, not his future, you can never get your mind around.

"I am the sultan of slick," he says with an impetuous boastfulness that tells even the dimmest viewer that Larry is a humble prince who hasn't even any rough edges that need smoothing.

He takes assignments from Louis (Lenny Venito), a semi-cuddly thug whose portrayal underscores the fact that we're in a modern variant on a Damon Runyon fable.

Louis tells Larry to kidnap and detain Brian (Justin Bartha), the 20-ish kid brother of a federal prosecutor who is about to nail some East Coast gangster.

Here's where the picture's idea of hardy-har kicks is. Bartha plays Brian as such an imitation of Dustin Hoffman's Raymond in "Rain Man" that you have to assume the character is autistic.

He's obsessed with "Baywatch" and holds himself inappropriately in one scene. Laughing yet? But Brian exhibits his tics and phobias so inconsistently that his dread of being touched, for example, vanishes by his third scene. (Gee, that was easy, wasn't it, Lar?)

As the film progresses, your guess is as good as any pre-schooler's as to whether Brian is physically disabled, psychologically impaired, of low intelligence or just really (as in Gigli) immature. His disability, like the hump on Igor's back in "Young Frankenstein," is fluid.

He wants to be read to. Big joke: Larry has nothing in his apartment to read but a couple of product labels. Larry reads a couple of sentences from one of those. Brian is pacified. After two sentences? Any idea what planet and what species we're observing here?

Why would you envelop a caricature of a disabled person in a crude romantic hit man sitcom? A bit disingenuous, isn't it?

Did I say romantic? Oh, yeah. Almost forgot.

Knock on the door. It's Ricki (Jennifer Lopez), who, after a moment's ruse to gain entry, admits that she, like Larry, is an "independent contractor" hired by Louis to guard the prisoner.

You need to consider here that every female criminal and crime-fighter in the past 15 years, with the sole exception of Anjelica Huston in "The Grifters," is totally bodacious. It's as if you have to win Ms. World Fitness and be centerfold-worthy to go into such professions. Is even one of these babes half as threatening or fun to watch as Lotte Lenya's spike-toed hag in "From Russia, With Love"?

So Ricki and Larry hop in the sack, right? After all, that's what the folks who moon over Affleck and Lopez require, right?

Not so fast. See, she's a lesbian.

No, no -- Gigli she is. I thought they were kidding, too, until her suicidal lover Robin (Missy Crider) turns up for a wrist-slashing, a plot thread then conveniently discarded.

But in a movie of "Gigli's" depth, Robin can be no more than a momentary distraction. Ricki must be free to seduce Larry. (I know, I couldn't decide whether to hold my forehead or smash the palm of my hand against my temple.)

Is it because Larry looks a lot like Ben Affleck? Is that it? Wait until the Fundamentalists learn how simply a "cure" can be affected. They can send the actor on tour to Make Me Straight clinics.

What follows, as you may guess, is the most miraculous sexual orientation change since James Bond bedded the lesbian Pussy Galore in a haystack in "Goldfinger."

Where does writer-director Martin Brest get his ideas? Not at gay film festivals.

Anyway, it turns out Larry's mom (Lainie Kazan) is bisexual. Welcome to the post-modern romantic comedy with one-stop shopping and cruising.

Christopher Walken has one scene as Det. Stanley Jacobellis, with too little meat to suggest why he dropped in.

On the other hand, as the visiting New York gangster, Al Pacino, who won an Oscar in Brest's "Scent of a Woman," blows in like the North Wind. Pacino has the sort of showboating, show-stopping speech that inflates the picture so briefly and bombastically that you want to throttle Brest for letting Pacino vanish and for sending us back home with Pretty Woman and ole Lesbian Cure.

Before we're finished puzzling over the wonders of "Gigli," can anyone explain why a would-be adorable romantic fantasy requires the services of so much R language?

Isn't the abundance of vulgarity just a little out of touch with the tone? Any thoughts, Dr. Cure Them Quick?

  

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Gigli 1/4 stars

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/click/movie-1124237/reviews.php?critic=all&sortby=date&page=1&rid=1183190

It's worth knowing how to pronounce Gigli because it will enter the vocabulary as a word meaning 'massive box-office flop; an embarrassment caused by Hollywood's inability to say no to powerful creative types. See also: Ishtar.'
First, let's get that pronunciation out of the way.

Don't say "jiggly," say "jeely." Rhymes with "really."

It's worth knowing how to pronounce "Gigli" because in a few days it will enter the vocabulary as a word meaning "massive box-office flop; an embarrassment caused by Hollywood's inability to say no to powerful creative types. See also: Ishtar."

"Gigli" is the movie that united Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck, and you might think – reasonably – that the film itself cannot be as unbearable as the yearlong barrage of "news" about "B. Lo" or "Bennifer" or whatever they're being called this week.

But you'd be wrong. So incredibly wrong.

Disastrous at every level, "Gigli" requires digging through layers of mistakes to find that bedrock boo-boo responsible for every other flaw. Underneath it all lies this problem: "Gigli" has no idea what it ought to be.

Writer-director Martin Brest ("Scent of a Woman") is trying to make four disparate movies at once. Three of those movies are "Prizzi's Honor," "Rain Man" and "Chasing Amy." I'm not sure of the fourth one, but I'll lay odds it was directed by Ed Wood.

Affleck plays Larry Gigli, an L.A. hood constantly telling people, "Rhymes with 'really.' " The joke is not funny the first time, and it's not funny the 10th.

Local capo Louis (Lenny Venito) orders Gigli to kidnap a federal prosecutor's mentally disabled brother so the feds will drop charges against a mob kingpin in New York. Gigli captures the young man, Brian (Justin Bartha), but Louis doubts Gigli's ruthlessness. He sends in Ricki (Lopez) to make sure Gigli doesn't lose his nerve.

On the one hand, Gigli, who is fueled by New Jersey testosterone, resents having a female enforcer baby-sit him. On the other hand, a sexy woman has just moved into his apartment. But Ricki gives his libido a jolt when she announces she's a lesbian.

The mob comedy aspects slip to the side as "Gigli" becomes a battle of the sexes aggravated by a 30-year-old attitude that regards homosexuality as a curiosity. This subplot yields a stupefying five-minute conversation where Gigli and Ricki argue the metaphysical superiority of their sex organs.

"In every relationship, there's a bull and a cow," Gigli says. The animal metaphors get worse, culminating in Lopez delivering a turkey-related line already considered one of the most embarrassing pieces of dialogue ever spoken.

If that weren't warped enough, Gigli does indeed grow fond of Brian, who calls the time and temperature in Australia to hear the woman's accent. Brian longs to see the beach, which he calls "the Baywatch," because "You can be friends there, and I think that's where the sex is."

We know these moments are meant to touch our hearts, because composer John Powell resorts to a sappy string arrangement every time Brian speaks.

Brest fails to develop his surest source of tension because Ricki also goes soft and doesn't want to harm Brian. How either of these characters gained reputations as vicious arm-breakers is a mystery. Ricki seems better suited to giving relationship advice over the radio, and Gigli doesn't seem suited for anything.

Blame Affleck for that. He may have found the love of his life making "Gigli," but Affleck is agonizingly miscast. Looking as menacing as a twig, he overcompensates with the worst performance Robert De Niro never gave.

Perhaps to show Affleck the art of overacting, Christopher Walken and Al Pacino drop by for one scene each. As the New York crime boss, Pacino's appearance is an added tonic because during his tirade (he's Pacino, he has to have a tirade) he lists everything wrong with the plot. The only moments from "Gigli" worth saving are Walken talking about pie and Pacino talking about medical school.

Lopez sells her ill-conceived role as best she can and newcomer Bartha is impressive as the autistic kidnap victim, but looking for something to praise in "Gigli" is like digging for rhinestones in a dung heap. Everything else – from the oppressive profanity to the ending that won't end to Lainie Kazan in a thong – is bad beyond comprehension.

  

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Gigli 0/4 stars
'Gigli' aims low, misses badly as mob comedy

http://www.sltrib.com/2003/Aug/08012003/friday/80148.asp

Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez met and fell in love while making "Gigli," which gives them a reason to watch it -- though I doubt even they, popping in the DVD as if it were a home movie, would be able to detect any onscreen chemistry.

But it's hard to blame the stars. Blame instead Martin Brest ("Scent of a Woman," "Meet Joe Black") for scripting a talky and tasteless mob comedy, and then directing it with his infuriating running-in-place manner that stretches minutes into hours.

Affleck plays low-level mob enforcer Larry Gigli -- "that's pronounced 'jeally,' rhymes with 'really,' " he tells people, in what passes for a running gag here. Larry's pug-like boss Louis (Lenny Venito) tells him to kidnap and hold Brian (Justin Bartha), a mentally challenged young man, for reasons that become needlessly apparent later. Louis also hires an "independent contractor," Ricki (Lopez), to help babysit Brian and make sure Larry doesn't screw things up.

Ricki and Larry are a study in screenplay-contrived opposites. He's a tough-talking knuckle-buster, she's an armchair psychologist who reads Eastern philosophy and practices yoga. They do have something in common -- they both like having sex with women. (Some lesbian scenes were reportedly cut, but the movie treats us to a scene with one of Ricki's ex-girlfriends, played by Missy Crider, barging into Larry's apartment and slitting her wrists.)

Brest gives over vast chunks of "Gigli" to long monologues on such subjects as eye-gouging techniques, the comparative aesthetic qualities of male and female genitalia, and the taste of Marie Callender's pies. This last ode is delivered by Christopher Walken, who breezes through one scene, unloads some plot exposition, and disappears. Also making quick appearances are Lainie Kazan as Larry's mom and Al Pacino as a persecuted mob boss.

When something actually happens in "Gigli," it's usually tasteless -- whether it's Larry cutting of a corpse's thumb with a plastic knife, or the sight of Kazan's butt in thong underwear. Worst of all is a violent moment, in which someone is shot in the head and aquarium fish feed on the splattered brain.

By then, you will wish someone at Sony -- already responsible for the summer's other worst movies, "Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle" and "Bad Boys II" -- would have used their gray matter and terminated "Gigli" before it was put into production.

  

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102. "here's a first: a woman has an opinion"
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Gigli 1.5/5 stars

http://www.themoviechicks.com/summer2003/mcrgigli.html

Larry Gigli (Ben Affleck), which rhymes with really (as in "Gigli, really bad"), is a "muscle" guy for a local tough named Louis (Lenny Venito). When one of the big boys back East needs a favor to stay out of jail, Louis has Gigli kidnap Brian (Justin Bartha), the kid brother of a federal prosecutor with something like Tourette's syndrome. Louis doesn't trust Gigli to pull this job off without messing up, so he hires an outside consultant, Ricki (Jennifer Lopez), to keep an eye on things.

As soon as Gigli gets over the fact that Louis doesn't think he can handle the job, Gigli puts the moves on Ricki, but she's not interested (in Gigli or any other man for that matter). Once again, Ben finds himself Chasing Amy Ricki. Gigli and Ricki agree to work together until they are given the order to start sending Brian's body parts as a warning - then the tough guy realizes he's not so tough and all they want is to get out of this job alive.

Ben Affleck is given such ridiculous dialog; his speeches about gangsters and about being the bull in their relationship are so pathetic - the only thing worse is the way Ben delivers the lines. Picture this: bad accent, the louder-is-better method of acting, and these words - "Sit at my feet and gather the pearls that emanate from me…I'm the Sultan of Slick, the King of Cool, the ultimate gangster's gangster." With this material, Ben looks so bad he makes Jennifer look positively brilliant (she only has one silly "seduction" speech she has to give, but at least she gets to show off her yoga skills while she's saying it).

Al Pacino, Christopher Walken, and Lainie Kazan show up for one cameo scene each. They get to prove that even talented actors can perform over-the-top if given the right material.

These are supposed to be the pearls that emanate from the movie: Gigli reads to Brian at bedtime from a Tabasco bottle, Ricki gives Gigli the "check your fingernails test" and is convinced that he's more in touch with his feminine side and would look better in mascara, and Brian's obsession with escaping to "The Baywatch" which might have been more entertaining that sticking around with the miscast gangstas.

This is the movie where these two stars fell in love, but that doesn't mean you're going to enjoy it any more. If you aren't already sick of the Ben & Jen hoopla, this should cure you.

  

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103. "denton texas has a movie reviewer?"
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Gigli 1/5 stars
I love this movie. Has anything ever been so deliciously awful? Nothing says quality like J. Lo as a faux lesbian.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/click/movie-1124237/reviews.php?critic=all&sortby=date&page=1&rid=1183203

We’ve been waiting all summer for "Gigli," the "troubled" new movie that gained notoriety for being the spawning ground for a budding romance between its two stars. Could it possibly be as bad as all the rumors have hinted? Here to report: not only is it as bad as feared, it’s deliciously bad—over-the-top, talk-back-to-the-screen bad.

Destined to join the ranks of such recent disasters as "Showgirls" and Madonna’s vanity project "Swept Away," "Gigli" proudly takes its place in an infamy hall of fame. It’s so offensively bad, it’s watchable. Clocking in at around two hours, the often leaden film is a monument to misguided, thick-headed stupidity and not a frame of it should be cut or taken out.

To start, consider the film’s premise: Ben Affleck plays Larry Gigli, a dense, low-life thug, and Jennifer Lopez is Ricki, a hit-woman who’s forced to join him on a job baby-sitting a likable person who’s brain damaged and has Tourette’s Syndrome. She’s a lesbian, but before the film is out she succumbs to his charms, which, on screen, consists of screaming at her and telling her what’s she’s missing. Are we offended yet?

He’s the apotheosis of the clueless male who thinks the only reason a woman could be a lesbian is because she hasn’t met him yet. So, who can blame J. Lo for falling for such sweet talk, even if it’s consistently laughable? When she finally switches teams, it’s totally strained, artificial, and embarrassing, in other words, like the rest of the movie.

The plot is something about Larry Gigli, on orders from his boss, kidnapping Brian (Justin Bartha) from a medical facility and then stowing him away while his boss tries to extort concessions from Brian’s federal prosecutor brother. Ricki’s called in to help baby-sit because Mr. Gigli is considered a moron even by his boss. Go figure.

From there, the three of them mostly just sit around Larry’s apartment while various activities take place and sexual tension builds. It’s like a scene, but without the sex, from Sartre’s "No Exit." And that took place, if you remember, in hell.

The film careers of Affleck and Lopez probably won’t suffer fallout from this monstrosity because no one takes them seriously anyway. But, once upon a time, writer/director Martin Brest made a good movie or two. "Gigli" isn’t one of them.

  

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104. "if these reels could talk . . ."
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Gigli

http://www.reeltalkreviews.com/browse/viewitem.asp?type=review&id=533

With 80 percent of Gigli being full-screen face shots of Ben Affleck, Jennifer Lopez or the two of them together, it's hard to believe the movie was not made purposely to cash in on the media blitz about the couple's real life relationship. And full-face shots are about all you get in Gigli. The story is lame and the characters change their personalities throughout the film, thus furthering our disinterest in their journey.

"It's pronounced like -- really," Gigli (Affleck) states several times in the movie. He's a wannabe hood, but 30 years too late for that. Looking like something out of Grease and acting like a cross between the Fonz and someone from The Sopranos, Gigli gets an assignment to kidnap Brian (Justin Bartha), the psychologically challenged brother of a federal prosecutor. He jumps to the task, never asking his boss why the kidnapping is necessary. Gigli quickly escorts Brian back to his apartment. While there, Brian displays extremes in his behavior -- all the way from resembling a person with Turrets to almost completely understanding everything around him and going along with the game. I had a feeling such incongruity resulted from a weakness in the blueprint of this character, not from a shortage of talent on Bartha's part.

Ricki (Lopez), another enforcer, shows up unannounced at Gigli's apartment. The boss doesn't think she and Gigli can handle the babysitting alone, so they're forced to share the apartment for a few days. Director/writer Martin Brest uses almost all the clichés in the book to set up a romance here. Force Gigli and Ricki together, have Ricki parade around the apartment practically nude and massage the device of push and pull moments together. There's only one bed, and Brian has the couch -- so, of course, they must share. Now, I ask you, why couldn't Gigli and Brian share the bed?

This ho-hum tale is enough to put you asleep, until Ricki stops Gigli's drooling dead in midair when she announces she's gay. Which would be fine if she didn't end up with him in the end anyway -- so what's the point? Brest takes the revelation one step further by showing Ricki in provocative displays of her feminine wares and by having her explain to Gigli (in textbook lingo) why women can satisfy each other better than men. I have no clue what Brest was thinking when he tacked on this fish-out-of-water subplot. If I wanted sex education, I wouldn't look for it at the movies.

Lastly, there's no sexual chemistry between Affleck and Lopez as Gigli and Ricki. Maybe they were intimidated since supposedly they were not a real-life romance when they filmed the movie, or maybe just the opposite was true and they wanted to convince the audience otherwise. Whatever the reason, there are no sparks, no charisma between them in all those mug shots together. Unless you count the few laughs from Bartha, there's absolutely no reason to see this film. Even the short scenes with Christopher Walken and Al Pacino add nothing to the movie. And parents, please keep minors away from this one.

  

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105. "edit:*review from gigli t.v. commercial*"
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in the ads on t.v. i've seen recently for gigli there is a review that appears on the screen.

it simply says "original" and is credited to entertainmentstudios.com

the print is so hard to read it took me seeing it three times to understand.

anyways, entertainmentstudios.com doesn't even do film reviews.

all they have are celebrity interviews/information under their movies section.

you can do a search for gigli and it comes back with no results found.

what is that about?

  

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106. "edit:pop matters. shit happens. see gigli."
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Unhaveable
Alert: Minor plot points revealed below.

http://www.popmatters.com/film/reviews/g/gigli.shtml

"When all is said and done, the only thing you can really count on in this world is that you never fucking know." His hair slicked back, his face set in an expression resembling impassivity, Larry Gigli (Ben Affleck) tends to philosophize with his marks, explaining the futility of resisting or the percentage in paying back whatever money they owe his boss, the twitchy, glowery Louis (Lenny Venito). Larry doesn't know much. A Los Angeles-based mob enforcer who may or may not have aspirations, he usually appears clueless: when his latest assignment only gives him half the money he owes, Larry reports it to Louis as if it's no big deal. Though Louis puts considerable energy into his rebuke, it's hard to say if Larry understands what's at stake. His face remains a blank.

It could be that Affleck is acting this vacuity, or maybe he, like Larry, has little sense of what's at stake. In any event, much has been already made of his poor performance in the title role in Martin Brest's Gigli. The actor has surely added to this "muchness," with earnest efforts to promote the film and his relationship with his costar, the dazzling Jennifer Lopez. The mid-July Dateline interview is especially egregious in this regard -- "One of the things I was most struck by was how she was able to do the sort of rock star thing and be an actress as well" says Ben, "A lot of people have tried to do it and it's a really hard thing to both at a high level" -- leading to rumors of a Jen-Ben backlash, one explanation for the outcry against the film.

Still, the machine chugs along, framing Gigli as the occasion for the couple's fateful meeting. Even in this capacity, though, the film is wanting, offering few clues as to their depth and sincerity, or their "chemistry." Perhaps what's revealed in Larry's blank face and his search for a plot to occupy his floundering energies, the movie is Affleck's version of The Bourne Identity, a look at the fragmentation of time and identity in postmodern culture, only this time in slow motion and without the violent choreography.

This last is somewhat unusual, given that Larry and Ricki (Lopez) are both professional killers hired by Louis. Their mission is to kidnap a federal prosecutor's autistic brother, Brian (Justin Bartha, whose performance careens between emulating Dustin Hoffman's Oscar turn and spewing like he has Tourette's Syndrome), in order to make the prosecutor back off the gangster Starkman (Al Pacino, whose embarrassing ostentation stops just short of the hoo-ha that has haunted him since he first ran it in Brest's lamentable Scent of a Woman). The two hirelings begin at odds, develop a mutual affection, and rethink their profession.

The plot sounds formulaic, but the movie is actually less so. The "buddies" don't kill anyone, don't screech around in Larry's pale blue Impala, and don't showdown with the gangsters or cops. Christopher Walken plays Jacobellis, the film's sole detective, in one brief scene where he asks after the missing boy's whereabouts: "I'm searching for news of the underground," he murmurs. Just what's up is unclear: is Jacobellis a friend of Larry's? Is Larry his informant? What? When no info appears forthcoming, the detective leaves, never to be heard from again.

Jacobellis' ostensible function is to tell Ricki and Larry of Brian's import, that is, his brother's identity. This even as they're becoming unprofessionally fond of the boy. Facing an imminent crisis, they don't leave town, return Brian or figure a way to elude Louis. Instead, they go for tacos. And at the food stand, Larry's love for his associate is cemented: when local teens with a boom box incur his wrath, the Sun Tsu-quoting Ricki reveals her own intimidation skills, namely, bullshitting about sinister-sounding martial arts techniques. It's an adroit mini-performance (as Lopez delivers throughout -- refreshingly low-key, compared to the many men who overact in every scene), convincing the kids to stay in school and Larry to rethink his macho posturing.

Impressed, he sets about trying to impress her in turn, even bringing her round (sort of accidentally) to meet his mom (Lainie Kazan), to whom he must give insulin injections; this allows a gratuitous and unfunny shot of her butt in a thong, the sort of shot that makes you wonder what anyone working on this film was imagining as "tone." Then again, nothing in Gigli is sustained, from pace to plot points to character functions. It appears to have been chopped up and put back together again more than once.

Consider, for one example, the wholly bizarre scene where Larry, instructed to send Brian's thumb to his brother, comes up with an alternative plan. He has the kid stand nearby in the morgue while he saws a thumb off a corpse with a plastic knife; the sound inspires hiphop fan Brian to recite "Baby Got Back" -- this ill-advised collision of the corpse-humor from Bad Boys II and the completely exhausted white-folks-rapping joke is a serious low point. Brian's utter reverence for Larry is another of the film's puzzles, as is Ricki's growing trust in his judgment, which is plainly defective.

For all its obvious inconsistency and clumsiness, Gigli has one peculiar point in its favor, which soon becomes troubling as well. (Most often, the film can't seem to get out of its own way.) It has to do with Larry's appealing softness (despite his adamant palookaville-ish denial of same) and his moral education, specifically in the form of Ricki as lesbian. She is, of course, gorgeous, confident, and quick on her feet, as well as mixed up with the desperately infatuated Robin (Missy Crider). This relationship leads to the film's most flagrantly misconceived scene, a frankly brutal suicide attempt. Even worse than this abrupt swing in mood (by this point in the film, you'd think you'd be used to them) is what follows: at what is evidently Robin's most anguished moment (or at least she looks anguished, viewed through a window, at a distance, from Larry's locked-out and overtly yearning perspective), Ricki puts an end to that plotline.

That Ricki is a lesbian assassin with a good heart is less complex than vaguely ludicrous, but it's not calamitous until she goes all Chasing Amy, that is, falling, however tentatively, for Larry. The motivation for this shift is missing, unless you count that he alternates between acting like a macho puff and a hurt puppy: which one of these is the "real" Larry, who so attracts the confident, canny Ricki is unclear. When he starts explaining his "sadness" to her -- he's sad because he's been sleeping next to a beautiful woman who's also "untouchable" and "unhaveable," a "dykeasaurus rex" -- she looks at him with love. Um, why?

Of the many anomalous scenes cobbled together for Gigli, the one garnering the most attention concerns Ricki's instruction to Larry on the overvaluation of the penis and the meaning and worth of the perfect lips between her legs, that is, "what I am proud to call my pussy." That she delivers said instruction while stretching on her yoga mat enhances his appreciation, and his vacant expression here gets something like its own workout. Camera angles set him up, of course, to reflect viewers' similar enthrallment. It's no longer a masculine presumption, but a giving over to her, agreeing to be her "bitch," accepting his own vulnerability and, after a fashion, generosity. Perhaps Larry is right, you never fucking know.

  

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110. "so whats the over under"
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on the breakup?

  

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116. "i think the odds are"
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500:1 they stay together
250:1 they stay together for another year
150:1 the red sox win the world series
100:1 they make a sequel

  

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Gigli No Stars

http://www.premiere.com/article.asp?section_id=2&article_id=1124

In case the Razzie Award announcers have any difficulty with the pronunciation, Gigli rhymes with "really." As in "really bad," or "really offensive," or "really wish I’d remembered my gun so I could just shoot myself now and end the misery." And it is misery that will saddle the unknowing viewers who walk into Gigli hoping to see the budding of real-life love between costars Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez. With all the bad press the film is receiving, celebrity gossip hounds are likely the only ones who will (or, really, should) pay good money to see the movie. And though there are perhaps films that are unfairly attacked by the media and others that are so bad that they’re good, Gigli falls into neither category.

The film centers on the relationship between thug Larry Gigli (Affleck) and co-thug Ricki (Lopez). Both are hired on the same case to kidnap a kid from a mental institution in order to help a more senior thug prevent his mobster boss from getting jail time. Larry, smitten by Ricki’s beauty and spunky attitude, tries to win her love. But, alas, she is a lesbian (sort of), which when it comes down to it only means (at least in this film’s universe) that he has to try . . . harder. They talk about sex a lot using icky animal metaphors, and eventually his naive oafishness is enough to draw her over to the other team (sort of).

It is tricky to say what to make of the chemistry between Ben and J. Lo, as their scenes together are often so mortifying that it’s hard to stay focused on the screen. The dialogue, written by director Martin Brest (who’s coming off another winner, Meet Joe Black), is so clunky and lacking in subtlety that it plays like a cross between soft-core porn and a really uncomfortable sex-ed class. The kidnap plotline is also a doozie. From the moment young, mentally challenged Brian (Justin Bartha) pops onto the screen, he becomes the go-to guy for big laughs. And why wouldn’t he be? After all, Brian, a cross between Rain Man, Jerry Maguire’s Jonathan Lipnicki, and Screech from Saved by the Bell, has all the makings of a great comic character: He’s autistic, has Tourette’s, slurs his words, burps, chases hot ladies who are, dude, so out of his league, and even raps along to Sir Mix A Lot, and he’s white! The sheer frequency of retarded-boy jokes might be considered offensive—if the jokes themselves weren’t so entirely boring. Even cameos by admired actors Christopher Walken and Al Pacino do nothing to add energy to the film, though one expects they might beg to differ, what with all of the overacted dramatic pauses and insane shouting (Walken and Pacino, respectively) that goes on in their scenes.

To recap: Gigli is uncomfortable, offensive, and boring. If you want to see Ben and J. Lo, buy a tabloid. You’ll be better off. Really.

  

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113. "if you haven't begun to understand . . ."
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it's a bad movie by now, you deserve to go see it.
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Gigli 1/5 stars

Affleck and Lopez team up for a mix of Rain Man, Chasing Amy and a little Guys and Dolls that's truly, deeply awful

http://www.netflix.com/MovieDisplay?movieid=60029186&trkid=23938&dmode=NETFLIXREVIEW

There's a neat science trick where you can take a hologram -- a three-dimensional image made of light -- and cut off a piece of it. The hologram is so complex that any part contains all the information necessary to re-create the whole. I kept thinking of this factoid during Gigli, the new crime-comedy-romance attempt from writer-director Martin Brest (Scent of a Woman, Meet Joe Black), starring off-screen mega-couple Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez.

The first reason holograms came to mind is that the totality of Gigli's awfulness is easy to see when you're confronted with any one part of Gigli -- the derivative plot, the wooden dialogue, the idiotic sexual politics, the tired clichés, the foul-mouthed idiocy. The second reason I kept thinking of holograms is that it gave me something to do other than think about Gigli while it was playing.

Affleck is Larry Gigli (which, we're told, rhymes with really), a low-level Los Angeles hood tasked by his boss to kidnap the developmentally disabled younger brother of a federal prosecutor who's causing trouble near the top of the mob food chain. Larry kidnaps Brian (Justin Bartha), and Larry's boss, Louis (Lenny Venito), sends Ricki (Lopez) to join him as backup. Larry is attracted to Ricki, but she's (gasp!) a lesbian who is unimpressed by -- and completely disinterested in -- his muscled braggadocio.

Larry's reluctant care for Brian is borrowed from Rain Man, while the Larry-Ricki relationship echoes Affleck's previous role as a comic-book artist who falls for an out lesbian in Chasing Amy. Chasing Amy, though, built up the characters involved; in Gigli, the attraction among Brest's cardboard cutout parts has more to do with convenience than it does with drama. (A note to Martin Brest: When your script lacks the emotional depth and sincerity of the work of that potty-mouthed poet laureate of New Jersey, Kevin Smith, that is a bad, bad sign.)

Cameos by Christopher Walken and Al Pacino serve only as bracing reminders of what real acting looks like, while Lopez and Affleck -- two performers whose charisma is normally more than enough to carry a film somewhere toward the finish line -- can't rise above the slack, dim contrivances of Brest's script. Lopez's hired muscle does yoga and reads the work of Buddhist writer Thich Nhat Hahn; these quirks are supposed to make her interesting, but they just demonstrate how desperately Brest is flailing to bring this film to life.

The failure of Brest's script isn't that we don't believe Affleck as a mobster or Lopez as a lesbian -- it's that we don't believe in either of them as human beings; Larry is dumb as wood, and Ricki is a repellent character who's supposed to seduce us. Gigli is already being hailed as the worst film of the year, but don't believe the anti-hype: It's just one of the failures Hollywood churns out on a regular basis; we're only slowing to stare because it's a Mercedes stalled at the side of the road instead of a less shiny, broken-down wreck.

  

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114. "gigli or why the world hates america"
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Gigli
It's Turkley Time

http://www.flickfilosopher.com/flickfilos/archive/2003/gigli.shtml

Have you not been making your required four-times-a-day supplication to Ben-and-Jen, wherein you turn to face Hollywood and think good thoughts that they actually survive as a gossip-worthy couple till their wedding? There's really no excuse for not worshipping the adorably cutesy-poo celebrity cuddlekins of the moment, but if you haven't, you can make up for it by taking in Gigli at least three times this weekend.

I know, I know: There are microbes living under the permafrost on Mars who plug their fingers in their ears at the merest mention of Ben-and-Jen and scream "No more! I just can't take it anymore!" But it must be acknowledged that celebrities are simply better than you and me, their lives far more exciting and interesting than our own dull ones. There's no fighting it -- just give in and see how much more pleasant it is to worry about the happiness of someone famous and important for a change instead of worrying about your own stupid and boring self.

The three sad, pathetic people out there who are not acolytes of Ben-and-Jen, for instance, may ignore Gigli, just dismiss it as, you know, "another movie about famous people in love, like we care," but it's vital to understand that this is the movie where they met for the first time. They weren't "famous people in love" on the first day they walked onto the set, separately, as Jennifer Lopez (Maid in Manhattan, Enough) and Ben Affleck (Daredevil, The Sum of All Fears), two individual famous people. No, this was their introduction to each other's fabulousness and fame. This was where they began the process of being "famous people in love." This was the beginning of everything that is Ben-and-Jen.

And you will hear people -- unbelievers, apostates, blasphemers -- say that the film is not very good, or bad, or godawful, or so misbegotten you'll laugh, you'll cry, you'll scream, you'll sigh, respectively, with derision, in agony, with terror, and in exasperation. And it is. But it's not the fault of Ben-and-Jen. Of course it isn't. We can quite clearly lay the blame upon writer/director Martin Brest (Meet Joe Black), because he is nowhere near as famous and certainly nowhere near as fabulous as Ben-and-Jen. He's the one who came up with stuff like the main character, Larry Gigli, which rhymes with "really," as in "really not very good," "really bad," really godawful," and "really misbegotten." Brest is the one who came up with the idea that Larry is from the Brooklyn part of Southern California, a rent-a-thug who uses a lotta deses and dems even though he grew up in the land of sunshine and palm trees. I mean, Ben would never have come up with that accent on his own. Brest is the one who came up with the idea of a lady lesbian thug called Ricki (and came up with the idea of her sorta of masculine name, too, I'm sure) who can't help but fall in love with Larry because what girl wouldn't want a real man?

Yes, Ben-and-Jen are saying the words Brest wrote for them, all the sort of pseudo European arthouse character drama dialogue about the philosophies of the male and female approaches to sex as a way of pretending that they're not really madly in love with each other from the moment they meet (Larry and Ricki, that is, not Ben-and-Jen). But notice how Ben-and-Jen triumph, how he doesn't bust out laughing when required to say things like "In every relationship dere's a bull and a cow," and she doesn't crack up when likening the penis to "a sea slug or a really big toe." Best of all is when neither of them loses it when Ricki invites Larry to pleasure her orally: "It's turkey time," says she. "Huh?" says he. "Gobble, gobble," says she.

And it certainly is not Ben-and-Jen's fault that Brest would take two such usually fine and entertaining actors as Christopher Walken (Kangaroo Jack, Catch Me If You Can) and Al Pacino (The Recruit, Simone) and invite them to throw their careers in the toilet. In one-scene cameos that could only be called aggressive rampages, Walken and Pacino -- as, respectively, a cop and a mobster -- are so relentlessly awful that it appears that Brest gave free rein to their excessive personalities, stepping away and indulging them as if to say, "Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the genius that is Christopher Walken/Al Pacino!" In fact, not only can you not blame Ben-and-Jen for this, they probably weren't even on the set during the five minutes Brest took to film the initial walk-throughs of Walken's and Pacino's scenes before calling it a day.

That Ben-and-Jen's relationship could blossom under such conditions surely is all the more reason they are worthy of the worship of mere mortals such as you and me. So kneel down and express your devotion. It's turkey time. Gobble, gobble.

  

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115. "i hope the right people get fired over this"
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Gigli .5/4 stars

http://www.hollywood.com/movies/reviews/movie/1723770

In a sea of mediocre movies this summer when, as a reviewer, being able to slam or lavish great praise on a film hasn't been easy, Sony brings us Gigli--a film so deliciously bad, it's a joy to write about.

Story
Let's just get through Gigli's plot so we can move on to the fun stuff. A lowly hit man, Larry Gigli (Ben Affleck), is hired to kidnap the mentally handicapped little brother (Justin Bartha) of a federal prosecutor for Mob purposes. A second hitperson, the comely, independent-minded Ricki (Jennifer Lopez), is also put on the case because Gigli can't be trusted to do the job correctly. Holed up in Gigli's apartment, the duo clashes at first but gradually form a bond, even though Gigli is a chauvinistic jughead and Ricki a tough-nut lesbian. Of course, they also form an attachment to their quarry Brian, who, in his untainted innocence, manages to change these two hardened individuals. Now that's over with, here's just a sampling of some of the deep and meaningful dialogue that passes between these two lovebirds: Says Gigli: "I am the bull and you are the cow…f**k with the bull, you get the horn." Gigli to Ricki: "I'm the Sultan of Slick…the original gangster's gangster." Ricki to Gigli: "You know, this might be a good time to suggest you not allow the seeds of cruel hope to sprout in your soul." Then later, more from Ricki: "The penis is a sea slug, or more like a really long toe. But kissing the mouth…The mouth--the lips, the warm, moist hole--is a twin sister to the…" Well, you get the picture. Even Brian gets in a good one when he chirps spastically, "It's not my fault I'm brain damaged!" Can it get any better than this?

Acting
Ben, Jen, what were you thinking? On second thought, don't answer that--we'd probably rather not know. This is one time when watching two huge celebrities like Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck fall in love is more cringe-worthy than romantic in any way. Imagine, if you will, Lopez as Ricki, who, having succumbed to Gigli's, er, charm, sprawls herself seductively on the bed in a little kimono robe and tells him, "It's turkey time. Gobble, gobble"--with a straight face. Or how about this one: "You know I'm not into the whole man thing…but somehow you got through." (Insert audible collective audience groan here). Affleck, who stands around looking like he's been hit in the face with a frying pan most of the time--of course, without ever mussing his hair--comes off looking even worse, if that's possible. His accent fluctuates between that of a Brooklyn thug and Southern California surfer dude. As far as how some of the high-profile cameos in the film got there--including Christopher Walken as a quirky cop and Al Pacino as a mobster who gets to vent in his usual boisterous way--obviously some favors must have been called in. Pacino did win his only Oscar for his performance in Scent of a Woman, helmed by Gigli's director, Martin Brest. Maybe they all deserve more credit for enduring such utterly banal garbage.

Direction
Writer/director Brest has had a spotty career at best. Of a handful of movies he's had a hit here and there (Beverly Hills Cop) and a few failures (Meet Joe Black). But with Gigli, the filmmaker reaches the bottom rung. He took big names, thrown them in a big-budget crime drama that really wants to be a small, talky indie, and the end result is more like a really bad play in which all the characters give their own over-the-top soliloquies, waxing prophetic about every subject under the sun--differences between males and females, being gay vs. straight, anger management, retardation, slopping pie on one's head (believe it). Granted, on some level, Brest is trying to think out of the box within a formulaic setting and in all honesty Gigli's premise isn't all that dreadful--just hacky. There may have been a somewhat decent movie hidden somewhere in Gigli--enough of movie at least to attract Lopez and Affleck (whose romance began on the shoot). Instead it's a discombobulated, jumbled mess of incoherent musings and horrible dialogue that moviegoers just shouldn't be subjected to. We wonder if, at this very moment, J. Lo isn't saying to her future hubby, "Let's not do this again"--but wait, they are, in Kevin Smith's Jersey Girls. We don't want to know what he's saying.

Bottom Line
Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez may be one of Hollywood's hottest real-life couples but on screen, they lack conviction. Gigli is a traffic accident you can't keep your eyes off of. If you have a taste for morbid curiosity, go see it.

  

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117. "rolling stone:a mag. past its prime can smell dead meat"
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Gigli 1 star

http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/movie/review.asp?mid=2047120

The only people likely to get a kick out of Gigli -- the first screen teaming of Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez -- are Madonna and her director hubby Guy Ritchie. Finally there's a movie as jaw-droppingly awful as their Swept Away. The stars display zip chemistry, but seem to find themselves adorable. They're so taken with each other they don't need an audience. Good thing, because they're not going to get one, not with this swill.
Affleck, in way over his head, plays Larry Gigli, a dim bulb of a mob enforcer. Gigli (it's pronounced jeel-ly but everyone gets it wrong) has kidnapped mental patient Brian (Justin Bartha, doing Rain Man), the kid brother of a federal prosecutor, to keep mob boss Starkman (Al Pacino in an overwrought cameo) from going to jail. Don't ask how. Know only that mob cutie Ricki (Lopez), a lesbian with a suicidal girlfriend, has been sent in to make sure Gigli doesn't screw up. Lopez treats the role like a photo shoot, doing yoga exercises in Gigli's apartment and ruminating on why it's more erotic to kiss a vagina than a penis.

Writer-director Martin Brest, who should have learned from his last fiasco, Meet Joe Black, instead provides more excruciating dialogue and slack pacing. Christopher Walken gets laughs as a nutso cop, but the focus soon switiches to what motivates Ricki to spread her legs and tell Gigli to, and I quote, "gobble-gobble." Careers have been crushed by less. Test audiences reportedly balked at the film's happy ending and wanted Gigli and Ricki to die bloody deaths. And they say critics are harsh.

  

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119. "gigli is secret code for ass wash"
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Gigli no stars
Take this 'Gigli' and shove it
Ben and Jen stinker a true bonding experience

http://www.examiner.com/arts/default.jsp?story=080103a_gigli

What is "Gigli" actually about? It's hard to tell; it wanders all over the place. But it's essentially about how Ben Affleck, by wearing a bad coiffure and putting on a fake Brooklyn accent, turns a psychologically challenged kid into a "normal" one, but he can also turn a beautiful lesbian into a straight girl.

Simply put, "Gigli" is the worst movie in years; it's insulting and displays an almost complete ignorance of moviemaking. "Gigli" is so unrelentingly bad that people may want to see it just as a bonding experience; viewers (read: victims) will want to talk and comfort each other afterwards.

To start, the film has an almost medieval attitude towards homosexuals and the psychologically challenged, treating these conditions as behaviors that can easily be "corrected" if one simply tries.

Affleck plays the title character, pronounced "GEE-lee" (rhymes with "really," for anyone who cares). He's a hired thug for a small-time L.A. gangster Louis (Lenny Venito) and for some reason they both talk with fake Brooklyn accents. When Louis gets into trouble, he orders Gigli to kidnap a district attorney's psychologically challenged younger brother, Brian (Justin Bartha), as a kind of bargaining chip.

But because Louis knows that Gigli is an idiot, he also hires the lesbian Ricki (Jennifer Lopez) to help out. None of this makes any sense, because it appears that Louis is never really in any trouble. Whenever we see him, he's free and walking around on the street.

Al Pacino shows up in a one-scene cameo late in the film as Louis' boss and basically proclaims how stupid this whole plot was. And even that scene fails because, for no apparent reason, writer/director Martin Brest directs Pacino to be a swishy and feminine stereotypical gay character.

Only Christopher Walken adds any zest to this mix, and that's because he delivers a line so unbelievably strange, from so far in outer space, it gets a big laugh. (Something about licking a pie with ice cream off the top of his head.) Walken deserves a special award for being in this, "The Country Bears" and "Kangaroo Jack" all within a 12-month period.

The younger brother Brian starts the movie out with lots of little ticks and twitches. Like Rain Man's K-Mart, Brian wants nothing more than to see "Baywatch" in person. But of course, as the movie progresses, his symptoms gradually fade away.

No, "Gigli" doesn't have the slightest idea what it wants to be about, and it tries to cover up by showing scene after scene of poorly written, overly memorized speeches. Characters rarely talk with each other, only at each other.

Two of the most tasteless speeches -- about the power of the penis and the vagina -- lead up to the awful sex scene between Affleck and Lopez, complete with slow motion, dissolves, cheesy music and Lopez wearing her bathrobe throughout.

Lopez has one line of dialogue, "Turkey time! Gobble gobble!" that will no doubt go down in movie history as one of the worst movie lines ever. Even Joe Eszterhas has to doff his chapeau for that one. Some of his lines in "Showgirls" come close, but do not equal, the offensive power of this dialogue.

Lopez comes out slightly ahead of Affleck in the performance department, mainly because she looks great and doesn't seem to have as many lines. On the other hand, it might be time for Affleck to cash it in. So far his best roles have been in top-notch ensemble pieces like "Dazed and Confused" or "Dogma" where he can disappear among the talent around him. But here, all by himself -- and with an endless, shirtless, self-love scene in front of a mirror -- he's truly dreadful.

On top of all this John Powell's music score is the worst ever. If any of the speeches and endless dialogue scenes couldn't get any longer or any worse, Powell's score almost always comes up to amplify them. The angel choir for Brian's big final scene (finding "Baywatch") is truly sickening.

Director Martin Brest began making snappy little comedies like "Going in Style" and "Midnight Run" and managed not to mess up "Beverly Hills Cop" too badly. But in the '90s, his movies grew longer and less funny, stretching out into train wrecks like "Scent of a Woman" and "Meet Joe Black." "Gigli" has to be his breaking point. It would perhaps be polite for him to step down and retire now. If he made anything else, I'm afraid the sucking would kill us all.

  

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Gigli no stars

Lopez and Affleck's awful 'Gigli' is truly an affair to forget

http://ae.boston.com/movies/display?display=movie&id=2705

Schadenfreude can be a beautiful thing. The rumblings that the new romantic comedy starring America's tabloid sweethearts Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez is a fiasco of the first order have had any number of people leaning forward in breathless, how-bad-can-it-be? expectation. Might ''Gigli'' be a new ''Showgirls'' or -- hope against hope -- the next ''Glitter''?

I'm sorry to have to disappoint you. Not that ''Gigli'' isn't a failure on almost every level -- it is. But the Martin Brest film is merely an overlong, joyless, and inconsequential affair, full of dead air, and possessing only a few moments of jaw-dropping bad taste. It's a dull disaster.

Affleck, whose career expiration date shudders closer with each new release, plays Larry Gigli (rhymes with ''really''), a cocky low-level Los Angeles hoodlum who provides independent muscle for local kingpins like Louis (Lenny Venito). Larry's the sort who might last two episodes on ''The Sopranos'' before getting whacked, and when Louis entrusts a major job to the kid, he realizes he has to hire a baby sitter, too.

The job is the kidnapping of Brian (Justin Bartha), the mentally retarded teenage brother of a federal prosecutor who's trying to bring down a New York mob leader. The baby sitter is Ricki (Lopez), a smoky-voiced freelance ''contractor'' who's as serenely lethal as Larry is hapless, and while she's beautiful enough to set his wolf ears wagging, she's not interested in either Gigli or his gender.

That's right, after months of hype positioning Bennifer as the Wal-Mart edition of Liz Taylor and Richard Burton, the couple's first film (there's a second on the way) turns out to be a romance between a lesbian and a thug. Ricki's not just any lesbian: she reads Thich Nhat Hanh, practices yoga, and is schooled in the esoteric eye-gouging techniques of the Far East. She's sultry enough to tremble the knees of a photo-shop girl, so why would we believe she might ''hop the fence'' for Gigli?

Their kidnap victim, meanwhile, is one of those adorable mentally challenged characters Hollywood really should learn to resist. Brian curses at inappropriate times (as does everyone else in the movie), likes to rap ''Baby Got Back,'' and has a pop-culture fixation on ''Baywatch,'' so it's only a matter of time before Larry is giving him girl advice and Brian is responding with life lessons.

The big gag, though, is that Larry starts getting in touch with his own feminine side and that's what ultimately attracts Ricki. None of which is believable or even amusing -- not at the funereal pace Brest sets for the entire two hours-plus -- but the bottom is surely scraped in the soon-to-be-infamous scene in which Larry expounds on the all-conquering power of the male organ and Ricki responds with a passionate defense of her own equipment.

Most of ''Gigli'' is so numbing that you start praying for random violence. Occasionally you're rewarded: At one point, Ricki's ex-girlfriend (Missy Crider) shows up, slashes her wrists, and is not heard from again. Larry opens the door, and, there's Christopher Walken as a detective, yammering about putting pie on his head. Lainie Kazan, as Larry's mother, gets an insulin injection while wearing a thong, thus justifying the film's R rating in a single image. And when Larry and Ricki finally meet the big New York mobster, he's played by a big New York actor (hint: he won an Oscar in Brest's ''Scent of a Woman'') who paints the walls with his own hamming and other people's blood.

I've saved the worst for last: Larry and Ricki eventually climb between the sheets in a scene that is insulting to the sexuality of all living creatures, from plankton on up. For what it's worth, Affleck and Lopez do have the screen chemistry of a couple in love -- they seem oblivious to the movie tanking around them -- but even this scene defeats them. How could it not? Quoth Ricki, ''It's time to baste the turkey.'' Respondeth Larry, ''Gobble, gobble.''

Maybe that's not up there with ''No more wire hangers, ever'' in the Bad Movie Hall of Fame. But it's close enough.

  

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121. "the second good review"
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Gigli 3.5/5 stars

http://www.boxoffice.com/scripts/fiw.dll?GetReview?&where=ID&terms=7555

Let's say you decided to make a movie much like "My Dinner With Andre," except putting a ravishing Latina in the Andre Gregory role and giving the Wallace Shawn part to a handsome hunk of oak, and making the characters small-time hoods, and adding Tarantino touches from "True Romance" and hints of Hallstrom from "What's Eating Gilbert Grape," yet making the key thematic element an investigation of a very kind of Sun Tze war between the sexes. What might you call it? In this case, you'd call it "Gigli" (pronounced...well, geez, say it however you like; one can expect this at least to be the most mispronounced movie of the year). You might also call it one of the least expected movies of the year, one that is likely to leave some theatre attendees nigh on enthralled--count this as from one of those--and have others escaping to the exits.

Multiplex-goers expecting this story of two small-time hoods--the seeker/loner Larry Gigli (Ben Affleck) and the centered-soul/lesbian whose nom de plume is Ricki (Jennifer Lopez), tossed together to caretake a mentally retarded hostage (Justin Bartha) for a mobster--to be a pop-culture romp of two of today's most public stars will feel as though they've sat themselves down in the wrong auditorium, the one usually reserved for men with beards and women with birkenstocks. What they will get is a Martin Brest film, with all the seriocomic depth that has variously marked his big-screen efforts, this one leaning lighter--more toward "Midnight Run" than "Meet Joe Black" in tone. Adding zounds of zing every other reel is an extended cameo by a longtime pro in which one can almost hear the helmer instructing the player, "Do the lines, but do them wacky." As a suspicious but friendly cop as intent on visiting a Denny's as locating the missing lad, Christopher Walken is so far to the fringe that not even "SNL" could mimic him; he does his long scene holding a coffee cup in his hand, but his character is so unhinged that it appears it would be news to him that he even has a hand, let alone a cup in it. As Larry's mother, Lainie Kazan suitably embarrasses her Lothario, Gigli having gone from detesting Ricki to wanting to devour her, during a visit in which son must administer a medical shot in his mom's naked-'n'-bulging butt; Mom sparks to the beautiful young woman as a good match for her boy, even when, and perhaps even more so when, she learns that Ricki prefers girls. Then there's Brest's lead in "Scent of a Woman," Al Pacino, who here, as the mobster for whom our duo is toiling, is so unhinged that it appears it would be news to him that he has a hand, let alone a gun in it--just as he seems in need of reminding that he has just blown the brains of an associate across his living room into a fishtank, to the appetitic appreciation of its denizens.

For those many celebrity-TV types who will people the film's prime opening-weekend audience--those whose first thought of Lopez regards the pink engagement ring given her by real-life love Affleck--her performance will be a revelation; she is so enthrallingly real that one almost doesn't notice that her character's savvy intelligence and emotional depth lessen the believability of her living life as a crook, and a minor one to boot, to zero. As for Affleck, always so winning in the Kevin Smith movies when he simply plays himself but so oaken otherwise, his charm makes one want to like him, but hewing him into a good actor would require not a Lee Strasberg but a Paul Bunyan. Given "Gigli's" kitchen-sink nature, perhaps it should be no surprise that Bartha, who succeeds in winning audience sympathy with a bright personalism that overcomes the staginess of his character's scripting, appears to have as his only previous credit that of office production aide on the crew of "Analyze This." Final analysis here: Kudos to Brest, and to Affleck and Lopez, who deliver--although that delivery is exactly the opposite of what their fans, and their disbelievers, expect to receive.

  

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122. "even really white guys can't stand affleck in this"
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Gigli 1/4 stars
Popular couple can't save 'Gigli'

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,510043844,00.html

In the industry, they call a movie as ridiculously bad and borderline offensive as "Gigli" a career-killer. That's really a misnomer, however, since no movie can really kill a career. Not in Hollywood. Not even when it's as completely wrong-headed as this alleged dark comedy.

The idea here seems to be to turn "Rain Man" into a gangster thriller — then to change its story focus halfway through the movie. (Think of Affleck's 1997 film "Chasing Amy" and you'll get the picture.)

Despite all the reshoots, rewrites, re-edits and other changes, this is one awful movie. In fact, it sort of makes you wonder how awful it was before all that.

Needless to say, this is not the career team-up that Hollywood super-couple Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez needed.

Affleck stars as the title character, a palooka with the rather unlikely name of Larry Gigli. Larry is working as a low-level hoodlum, shaking down people for payments and extortion money. His latest "assignment" has him kidnapping Brian Dorff (Justin Bartha), the mentally handicapped brother of a federal prosecutor. The idea is that this prosecutor will soften his stance on his latest case, which involves a New York mobster (Al Pacino, over-the-top, as always).

Needless to say, it's a big assignment, which explains why Larry suddenly finds himself teamed with Ricki (Lopez). Ricki's a pro. And her presence is supposed to ensure the job gets done. But there's one further complication: She's also a lesbian, which becomes a problem when Larry starts falling for her.

This messy film is so badly paced that it actually feels longer than some of director Martin Brest's other, marathon-length movies (chiefly "Meet Joe Black"). None of it is nearly as funny — or as shocking — as Brest intends it to be.

Affleck's hilariously bad tough-guy inflection does seem to have been cribbed from John Travolta's old Vinnie Barbarino character. And Lopez isn't even remotely believable here — even as Affleck's love interest!

  

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123. "EMBARASSING! she probably wrote the script"
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review 1)Gigli 3.5/5 stars

Ignore the critics: Bennifer's flick is one fluffy hoot

Gettin' Gigli

http://www.canoe.ca/JamMoviesReviewsG/gigli-sun.html

It ain't Shakespeare. And thank god for that. Most of us have had quite enough of the bard. But it is fun. Gigli is a hoot. A fluffy hoot, but a hoot.

In an obvious spoof of The Sopranos, the flick starts off with multitudinous use of the F-word -- and pretty much continues this vocabulary lesson throughout, so if you're not up for epithets, don't go.

On the downside, Gigli is as light on plot as it is heavy on dirty words. Um, let's see here. Seems there's this bad guy (Al Pacino) who doesn't want to go to jail, so he cooks up the idea of kidnapping the Federal prosecutor's young brother Brian (Justin Bartha), who just happens to be brain-damaged from an accident or something like that.

So enforcer Larry Gigli (Ben Affleck) is commissioned to kidnap the kid from the institution in which he is living, but the bad guy's bad guy Louis (Lenny Venito) doesn't trust him to do a good job so he sends in Ricki ( J. Lo) the other enforcer, who just happens to be a lesbian. Ben's character, you should note, is not gay.

Are you with me so far?

The bad guy wants to up the ante so he insists Ben and J. Lo lop off baby bro's thumb and send it to big bro. They do send big bro a thumb, it just isn't baby bro's because, in a scene worthy of British farce, Larry Gigli cuts the thumb off a corpse -- with a plastic fork. Bad guy finds out, of course -- science, as he reminds the squeamish duo, has provided us with the ability to take fingerprints. (There's some delicious dialogue here about whether a thumb is a finger or a digit.)

Of course, Bennifer have taken a shine to baby bro, who is a rather endearing character -- in fact, he almost steals the show -- so they do not wish to harm the kid, nor do they wish to stay in a business which might make them harm a kid like this, so J. Lo and Ben sort of ride off into the sunset in a car reminiscent of the one in Thelma and Louise, except there's no cliff.

That's pretty much it, plot-wise.

On the upside, the film is dotted with hilarious dialogue, sexual tension and downright good acting. For example, Pacino is fabulous in his cameo as the big bad guy and shoots an underling with all the crazed panache of a Godfather run slightly amok. J. Lo is fine as the mysterious, kinda-lesbian hitperson who is better with words than she is with karate. There was, of course, a danger here of the movie falling into that trap called "curing the gay person;" instead, we're given to understand right from the beginning, that J. Lo's character is sort of bi. She likes men, but thinks women are beautiful -- and who could argue that one? In this the movie is audacious, daring to fool around with society's notions of gay and straight.

Ricki and Larry do indeed make wild love in some of the best love scenes in recent movies -- replete with fun role reversals and in which Ricki's dialogue is termed "vulgar" by some critics. The translation is that critics are horrified that it is a beautiful woman who is spouting such language. Note that after making love with a man, Ricki does not change her mind about her mostly preference for women.

As for Ben's Larry Gigli character, he's a delight -- all sly New Jersey Sopranos accent and deadpan humour. He does the slightly bewildered good hearted goon to perfection.

But it is Justin Bartha as the kid brother who is the real star. Again, there was a danger that the movie could have degenerated into a "make fun of the mentally challenged" flick of monumental bad taste. Instead, the kid is totally sympathetic, endearing, howlingly funny and achingly wise. He is a younger, funnier Forrest Gump.

Within the genre of fun fluff, this flick is right up there.

So, ignore the 99% of rude, insensitive critics who insult this movie with such phrases as, "a low point in cinematic history."

Go, laugh and enjoy.


  

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STUFFED TURKEY

http://www.nypost.com/movies/2106.htm

Ugly.

Running time: 98 minutes. Rated R (language, gore, vio lence, sex). At the Empire, the Lincoln Square, the Orpheum, others.

IT isn't the fault of Ben Affleck or Jennifer Lopez or any of their supporting cast that "Gigli" is such a stinker.

The two stars do, it turns out, have ample on-screen chemistry, and Lopez is actually better here than in any of her movies since "Out of Sight."

The latter was, like "Get Shorty," an adaptation of one of Elmore Leonard's witty tough-guy novels. And the problem with "Gigli" is that it is an inept attempt to do Elmore Leonard by Martin Brest, a filmmaker whose coarse sensibility makes him catastrophically unqualified to the task.

In "Gigli," writer-director Brest (responsible for "Meet Joe Black"), reveals a penchant for ugliness and vulgarity that was only hinted at in the "poontang" speech in his "Scent of a Woman."

His is a sensibility so unpleasant, especially when it deals with anything to do with sex, that scene after scene makes you want to take a shower.

His dialogue — and "Gigli" features some of the most embarrassing writing of any movie made in the last decade — is clearly supposed to express an earthy sexual sophistication.

But — witness the now notorious "gobble gobble" invitation to oral sex — it's just crude and clueless and reeks of loathing for both male and female sexuality.

Affleck's Gigli is a dimwitted enforcer for an L.A. mobster; J.Lo's Ricki is a wise, wry, sexy, literate enforcer sent to make sure he does his job properly.

This job involves kidnapping a mentally handicapped youth (Justin Bartha, who looks like a young clone of Chris O'Donnell) to put pressure on the boy's father, a federal prosecutor. (We're never told precisely what's wrong with the young man, but it appears to be a combination of mental retardation and Tourette's syndrome.)

It isn't clear if the material involving the kidnapped boy (all of it shamelessly ripped off from "Rain Man") is supposed to be funny or disturbing.

In the end, it's too trite to be moving, but it casts a depressing shadow on the romance and the comedy.

There is nothing unexpected or interesting in the way the two mobsters fall for each other, or the way Affleck's character's essential decency beneath a callous, immature exterior is brought out by his interactions with his young hostage.

Lopez's character doesn't undergo any change at all, but like Madonna in the execrable "The Next Best Thing," the singer/actress gets to show off her yoga moves and toned muscles at some length.

She looks terrific, but even her remarkable sex appeal isn't enough to distract you from the idiocies coming out of her mouth.

In the movie's one genuinely enjoyable sequence, Christopher Walken (as a detective) sends a blast of fresh air across the movie's general rancidness, even though it's a bizarre performance, over the top even for him.

And in another supporting role, Al Pacino is back in the eye-popping shouty mode that reached its nadir in Brest's "Scent of a Woman."

All the characters — including those who are supposed to be L.A. born and bred — have Noo Yawk accents, as if that's the way all criminals speak.

  

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Gigli no stars
Jen-Ben chemistry makes for a bomb

http://www.nj.com/movies/ledger/index.ssf?/base/entertainment-0/105975060096180.xml

First, a pronunciation note: When you're saying the title of the new Ben Affleck comedy, please remember that "Gigli" does not have a "giggle" in it.

And neither does the movie.

Not one.

It does have any number of jiggles in it, courtesy of co-star Jennifer Lopez, and plenty of wiggles and wriggles, too. But its hero would like you to know that's not how his name is pronounced either.

"It's 'Jeel-ee,'" he point out helpfully. "Rhymes with 'really.'"

You know, as in "Really awful." As in "Really, really awful." As in "Really, really, really awful."

"Gigli" is not just a bad movie. "Gigli" is a stupendously bad movie. "Gigli" is such an utter wreck of a movie you expect to see it lying on its side somewhere in rural Pennsylvania, with a small gang of engineers circling and a wisp of smoke rising from the caboose.

Instead it's currently lying in wait at a multiplex near you, with Lopez shaking her caboose and a lot of actors going off the rails.

On screen, "Gigli" plays like a shotgun marriage between "Prizzi's Honor" and "Chasing Amy." Affleck is the titular character, a small-time mob enforcer with all the wit of a plate of scungilli. Lopez is Ricki, a glamorous, yoga-practicing lesbian gangster who likes to study Buddhist philosophy when she's not whacking people.

Of course, Ricki is not a character who exists anywhere on Earth outside of Howard Stern's daydreams, but we're expected to accept her here. We're also expected to believe that Gigli immediately falls for her, hard, because she is such a "heartthrob-a-rama" that even their obvious sexual incompatibility is just a detail.

Or as he so charmingly puts it, "As far as the lesbian thing goes, if you do ever think of hopping over the fence, promise me, you'll give me a call first."

Of course she falls hard for him, too, her lesbianism serving only to slightly delay their big love scene. But work still has to come before pleasure, and complicating things is Ricki and Gigli's job, which involves kidnapping the mentally disabled younger brother of a meddlesome prosecutor.

Boy, this just gets funnier, doesn't it?

It doesn't, really, but it does get weirder as a variety of guest stars each shows up for a single, prodigious bit of scenery chewing.

First, Christopher Walken slithers in, his eyes dead and his hair bristling with electricity, giving every ... line ... his ... unusual cadences. Then Lainie Kazan appears as Gigli's mom, mothering and smothering and shaking like a tub of cafeteria Jell-O.

There are, unfortunately, still a few square inches of scenery left at this point, even after Kazan lumbers off. So director Martin Brest brings on the big guns: Alfredo Pacino himself, his hair tied in a little ponytail, his baritone booming off the walls and his mob-boss performance, freed of its moorings, soaring away like some highly explosive dirigible.

"I don't give a s--," he screams after one murder. "I have no compunctions! None! Whatsoever!"

Obviously not, which is why he's in this.

Pacino is nothing if not loyal; perhaps he took this cameo as a thank-you to director Brest, a fellow Bronx boy and the man who helped him win his hugely undeserved Oscar for 1992's "Scent of a Woman." That movie, Brest's last hit, featured Pacino running around shouting "Hoo-ah!" and threatening to unpack a flamethrower.

Too bad he didn't begin by incinerating Brest's script for this one, which lurches from idiocy to offensiveness. Its idea of a clever kidnapping is to have Affleck show up at the boy's institution and simply walk off with him. Its vision of the typical Buddhist lesbian mob enforcer's wardrobe -- whatever that is -- consists of tiny shorts, halter tops and jeans so low they could double as legwarmers.

And don't -- please -- bring up the dialogue, which ranges from the stars' dueling monologues about their own gorgeous genitalia, to run-on, Runyonesque lines about their various illegal activities. At one point, Lopez even gives a long, carefully detailed speech about how to not only gouge out someone's eye, but to remove the memory of everything they've ever seen.

Which, by the end of the movie, wasn't starting to seem so bad.

The purely prurient may find some enjoyment in watching the now-offscreen couple in this, their first onscreen coupling, and trying to read between the lines of what passes for sexy banter.

Lopez, for example, bronzed as a pair of baby shoes, shows a peculiar glee in insinuating that Affleck is gay, and ordering him around his own apartment. Affleck -- who eventually, blissfully submits -- at first vainly tries to hold his ground, insisting that Lopez sit at his feet and "gather the pearls that emanate forth."

And what are these tiny, opalescent spheres of wisdom?

"In every relationship, it just so happens there's a bull and a cow," he explains patiently. "I'm the bull. You're the cow."

Charming, of course, yet it's hard to believe that even as romantic a pitch as that could ever really change someone's sexual orientation. But who knows? Maybe old Gigli is right, and they are just a couple of bovines in love. It would certainly account for the dull, slack-jawed, cow-eyed looks they keep giving each other.

And it might go a long way to explaining that smell.

  

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126. "what's there to do in oregon? not watch gigli"
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'Gigli,' as in really bad

http://www.oregonlive.com/movies/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/entertainment/1059653180304990.xml

There are some movies where you just don't know where to begin. "Gigli" is one of them. With all of its negative press, you walk into the movie wanting to like it, ready to tell the naysayers, 'Get over the Ben-and-Jen angle already and just watch the movie for what it is.' "

And then for about a half and hour you try. And you try. But you just can't fathom how really bad it is. As with Madonna's "Swept Away" you're left baffled by how the thing was ever made. "Gigli" (pronounced "jeally," rhymes with really) has a curious train-wreck quality to it that keeps you watching and thinking. (Even if you are thinking things like, Why were these lines ever written? When you hear the "turkey" line, your jaw will drop.)

Written and directed by Martin Brest, who made the overrated "Scent of a Woman" and the great "Midnight Run," "Gigli" takes its name from our hero, Larry Gigli (Ben Affleck), a low-level hood whose attitude belies a deep insecurity. With his leather jacket, swagger and goombah looks -- as much as Affleck can muster -- he's funny-tough, kind of goofy and supposedly lovable.

Hired by his sleazy boss to kidnap the brother of a prosecutor who's trying to put the big guy in jail, Gigli simply walks into a home for the developmentally disabled and picks up the mentally disabled teen. Just like that.

The boy, Brian (Justin Bartha), is obsessed with what he calls "the Baywatch" -- not the show, but a mythical place populated by pretty girls -- and Gigli promises to take him there. But as the two are holed up in Gigli's apartment, in walks the beautiful Ricki (Jennifer Lopez), who has been hired by the same boss for the same job, and to keep an eye on Gigli.

This makes no sense other than providing a lazy way for the couple to hook up. But don't stop to think about it, because soon we learn about the big obstacle: Hot Ricki in the low-slung tight jeans and midriff-baring tops is a lesbian. Heavens! Here's where the movie starts veering off course, becoming more "Chasing Amy II" than the darkly funny Elmore Leonard-esque crime movie it should be.

For much of the rest of the film, Ben and Jen banter about sexuality. The masculine and feminine. The gray area of preference. The importance or unimportance of various body parts. And they keep on talking, leaving behind Brian, whom we're supposed to care about but don't, and overwhelming any other potentially intriguing elements including a terrific scene with the great Christopher Walken.

The picture is a long, unsexy tease. We wait for Ben to melt Jen's lesbian armor -- which isn't believable; he's no Johnny Depp, after all. Perhaps knowing that the story is preposterous, the movie continually returns to the duo's heat and clings for dear life. Though the pair does reveal chemistry and Lopez is a natural, the film is poorly written and edited, and it's startling why anyone agreed to make it. If you're curious, be morbidly curious -- that's the only way you'll garner any enjoyment from "Gigli."

  

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127. "the orlando sentinel: praying for a hurricane"
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Affleck, Lopez flunk Chemistry 101

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/movies/orl-calgigli01080103aug01.story

Not since Tracy and Hepburn . . .

No, that's a stretch.

First it was Gable and Lombard, Bogie and Bacall . . . and now Affleck and Lopez.

Nah. Who'm I kidding?

One has to return to the storied love of Sean and Madonna to find a real-life romantic couple who light up the screen like Ben and J.Lo in Gigli.

That's about right.

Gigli, the new comic-tragic romance starring real-life lovers Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez, is a relationship killer of a flop. It's a catastrophic miscalculation of tone, a comatose comedy about mental illness, contract killers and corpse desecration.

And for the stars, it's a stunning blow to how cute they seem to think they are together. They strike too many poses, stare off-camera in that meaningful "soap-opera method" style. They murder jokes and half-heart their way through tender moments and wear way too many outfits from the Hollywood hitman/woman collection.

We hear Matt Damon has been trying to stop the happy couple's impending nuptials. He must have seen Gigli. If they connect offscreen as well as they do on, I see counseling in their future. And lawyers.

Affleck stars as the idiotically named hit-man Larry Gigli, pronounced "Jeely, like really." He's a scary dude -- or as scary as baby-faced Ben and his mobster hairstyle (hairpiece?) can make him.

A thug played by Lenny Venito sends Larry to kidnap Rain Man, or this movie's version of him. Brian (Justin Bartha) is snatched from a "special" school. Larry keeps him in his apartment, hoping to leverage the disabled kid-hostage into favorable treatment from his brother, a federal prosecutor.

Brian is off in the head but adorable, profane and a hip-hop and Baywatch fan (make your own hip-hop or Baywatch joke here). And for the purposes of this movie, he's calm and quiet whenever cops (Christopher Walken, who should be pickier) or mobsters (Al Pacino, who should be pickier) are nearby.

Ricki (Lopez) is a va-voomy contract killer sent to stay with Brian and Larry, basically to make sure Larry doesn't screw up. She's forever doing yoga and reading "Being Peace" and ignoring Larry because she's a lesbian.

The sparks between the stars wouldn't ignite an open gas can. They play this unintentionally silly seduction scene as if their whole sordid tabloid history were enough to make us care about characters so poorly developed that we don't believe either of them in their roles. Affleck rises to the dim-wit soft-hearted tough-guy occasion once. We're just supposed to accept Lopez as this tough-talking hardcase, but her one or two tough-talking scenes don't cover that.

The setup suggests that this will be something of a gender reversal comedy, but steps in that direction are all flat-footed. Director Martin Brest did Midnight Run and Scent of a Woman, both movies about odd couples tossed together to learn something about each other under stress. He never finds anything like the right tone here, spattering brain matter all over a fish tank (and the fish eat it up) in one scene, always reaching for laughs that never come.

And if all that weren't enough to scare you off, here's a final five-word warning -- Lainie Kazan in a thong. The Big Fat Greek mama plays Larry's hip, hippy and hopeful mom in a scene that comes closest to scoring a laugh.

We can all be happy for Ben and Jen's impending nuptials. But we're allowed, too, to hope and wish that they never ever work together again. They may be really in love. But Gigli really stinks.

  

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128. "like spit up geno's cheesesteaks"
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'Gigli' is really, really bad

http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/living/6433169.htm

Kevin Smith has reportedly moved the release of his Ben Affleck/J. Lo movie "Jersey Girl" from November to next year to avoid the anticipated stench of "Gigli."

Maybe he should think about the year 2525.

By that time, the fumes may have subsided from "Gigli," the notorious bomb that, by one account, had its own producer and director brawling in theater lobbies after dire test screenings.

Anytime a movie attracts this kind of catastrophic advance publicity, your instinct is to go against the grain of universal condemnation, to look for survivors in the rubble.

And I suppose, in a time-capsule way, there is some value to the scene in which J. Lo delivers a five-minute soliloquy about female genitalia while doing yoga. Her celebrated body is clad in a tight two-piece, and when her speech culminates with a crass reference (starts with "p") to her own package, she raises her pelvis and spreads her legs, so all of us can take a gander.

This should be saved for posterior. Er, posterity. Other than that, the movie is pretty much as bad as you've heard, a tangle of badness so thick it's hard to hack your way through and find the good idea that made writer/director Martin Brest think this was a story worth telling.

Indeed, you'll have trouble finding a story at all. "Gigli" is an inert, mostly unrelated collection of monologues - there is J. Lo holding forth on the vagina, Affleck on the penis. Christopher Walken talks about ice cream and pizza, and Al Pacino talks about intimidation. And, oh yes,...Lainie Kazan talks about sexual experimentation, so don't eat before you go. In fact, don't go at all.

Who are these actors playing? Why are they in the movie?

Information is scarce. Affleck plays Gigli, a mob leg-breaker (try not to laugh) hired to kidnap the mentally challenged brother of a prosecutor attempting to convict his boss.

More muscle arrives in the form of J. Lo, making "Gigli" the first romantic comedy to contrive a "meet cute" scene between two criminals who are terrorizing a handicapped person, referred to by one of the charming leads as "retard."

There is virtually no action in the movie, no forward momentum of any kind. Mostly what happens is Gigli tries to convince his partner, a lesbian, that she's attracted to him. This plays out while the "retard" sits in the back of Gigli's convertible. Yes, convertible. They drive the kidnapped son of the prosecutor around L.A. in a ragtop, top down, in broad daylight.

Walken bursts in for two minutes as a cop, Pacino as a mobster, Kazan as Gigli's mother. The dimension of their overacting is historic. It's a three-person relay race of scenery-chewing, and by the time Pacino takes the baton for the final leg, you know you're witnessing a world record. Beamon-esque, really. Likely to stand for decades.

Makes you wish Mickey Rourke had landed the role of Gigli, because Affleck isn't a bold enough to actor to be a ham, to make Gigli anything more than a dull embarrassment.

As for J. Lo, I know there are people who'd like to lay this whole thing at the feet of her vanity. The truth is, though, she's the least bad thing in the movie. Sometimes, even good, and she contributes the only scene in the movie worth watching.

While "Gigli" may live forever in our minds as the "Heaven's Gate" of romantic comedy, thanks to J. Lo, we'll always have pubis.

  

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129. "this is wearing on me . . ."
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Affleck, Lopez – pretty, empty shells – are a match made in heaven for vacant, idiotic 'Gigli'

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I am sad to report that "Gigli" is not about the famed Italian tenor Beniamino Gigli. It is about the "chemistry" of Jennifer Lopez (J.Lo to millions) and Ben Affleck (B.Af to fewer), who have been having, to the joy of all tab readers, an S.Rom (sizzling romance).

Their new L.Mo (lousy movie) is Martin Brest's comedy about a tough guy, Larry Gigli (Affleck). He is hired by a scumball (Lenny Venito) who substitutes profanity for English to kidnap the retarded teen brother of a federal prosecutor. Justin Bartha plays challenged Brian as afflicted only when comedy requires it, with Tourette's syndrome as a cute, occasional extra.

He looks a bit like young Tom Hanks, and seems to be on loan from a special school production of "Forrest Gump." Brian loves Australian weather reports and "Baywatch." He and Gigli both learn to love Ricki (Lopez), another "contractor" hired by the scum to watch them.

She is a proudly lesbian killer-tootsie. She can subdue punks with her "people skills" speech about gouging out eyeballs, but also bunkers serenely into Buddhist books on peace. She delivers an erotic ode to her body while exercising that perfect bod before the awed Affleck.

These are supposedly very dangerous people, but we sense that their major anxiety is a misplaced comb or a smudged tattoo. Their eyes meet like fated mirrors reflecting a vast mutual inwardness of preening.

Add Lainie Kazan as Larry's mom, a one-woman carnival who exhibits her large frontal and posterior assets for the camera. Add pale, spaced Christopher Walken as a detective, delivering a speech that salutes Marie Callender pies (no rival to his fine speech in "Pulp Fiction"). Add the scene-grab hog Al Pacino as a criminal psycho doing a Pacino spoof ("Sit. Sit. I say everything twice!").

Of course, Lopez and Affleck look terrific, with tremendous hair that drinks up sunlight. They do have some sort of flirty chemical bond and they could even be charming, except that their movie is idiotic, Affleck seems to have taken a cheap mail-order course on Robert De Niro and Lopez projects a silky smugness that is too narcissistic to be either lesbian or hetero.

The film is mainly about Martin Brest getting A-list actors to fall in love with his dialogue. Everything builds to showcase monologues, but nothing credible follows from them. This is the Cinema of Attitude pampered beyond lousy teen comedy to some post-Tarantino end zone of stupified "adulthood."

Brest made "Going in Style," "Midnight Run" and "Beverly Hills Cop," but has devolved to "Scent of a Woman," "Meet Joe Black" and this puddle of piffle. He is an object lesson in what success can do to a talent, but possibly we are being too hard on Hollywood and too easy on him. Why is he so hard on us?

  

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130. "sars: toronto as gigli: everyone"
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Gigli 1/4 stars

Gobble, gobble indeed
`It's turkey time' J.Lo says to Ben
Truer words have never been spoken

http://www.thestar.com

The mind reels. Where to begin?

With the mentally handicapped character who, regarding a strategically stooped Jennifer Lopez, announces that "my penis sneezed"?

With the shot of fish in an aquarium feeding on bits of human brain freshly splattered there?

With the very idea of Jennifer Lopez as a lesbian mob contract enforcer who quotes Sun Tzu and discourses on "the sweet and sacred mystery between a woman's legs" while demonstrating erotic yoga technique? ("The mouth," she explains while pushing her knees apart, "is the twin sister to the vagina.")

Perhaps one starts with Lopez spreading her legs (a recurring motif) and saying — to an understandably dumbstruck Ben Affleck — "It's turkey time. Gobble, gobble."

Or possibly with the very idea that Affleck — as another mob contract enforcer — might cure Lopez of lesbianism? But that might obscure the equally arresting suggestion that, since he's been so systematically emasculated by this movie anyway — which likens his penis to "some bizarre sea slug" — he doesn't really qualify as a man anyway.

But wait, there's more! Christopher Walken — as a cop — and Al Pacino — as a crook — turn up in twin cameo appearances so ferociously over the top you'd think they hadn't eaten in years.

A spurned lesbian lover of Lopez's shows up just long enough to learn of Ben and J.Lo's turkey time and slit her wrists.

Then, as if there hasn't been enough reason to suspect your soda has been spiked with hallucinogens, comes the scene in which the mentally handicapped federal prosecutor's younger brother (Justin Bartha) — who has been abducted from a hospital in possibly the lamest kidnapping in film history — does a semi-spastic version of the hip-hop oldie "Baby Got Back" while Affleck saws the thumb off a cadaver.

Gigli, the hyped teaming of the tabloid dream team of Affleck (as Larry Gigli "rhymes with `really'") and Lopez as Ricki (rhymes with "icky"), is every bit as bad as the notorious pre-release rumours indicated, but it is no ordinary bad movie. It is an exquisitely bad movie: One to be savoured, marvelled over, shared with friends and generally appreciated in a state of awestruck wonder. Gourmet fromage.

It must be appreciated much the way Ms. Lopez — who cannot walk into a room in this movie without causing penises to sneeze and wrists to be slit — would seem to regard her own magic turkey. A feast for the gobbling.

As fixated as it is on its female star's crotch, Gigli can't figure out what to do with her performance. In two sequences, Lopez is called upon to put the fright into threatening men. In both, and particularly the one featuring Pacino's bloodthirsty mob boss, the men look considerably less scared than stunned.

Written and directed by Martin Brest, who once made cut-above action comedies like Beverly Hills Cop and Midnight Run before taking on water with Scent Of A Woman and Meet Joe Black , the movie is anything but boring or generic.

The story of two surrealistically unconvincing mob enforcers guarding the kidnapped brother of a federal prosecutor, the movie manages to drag at least two genres to rock bottom at once.

A romantic comedy with no convincing romance and scant (intentional) comedy, an action movie that can't seem to leave Gigli's apartment, a showcase for two star performances so uncomfortably stretched they make The Star Wars Kid look poised — if Affleck's junior mobster wouldn't pass muster as party charade, J.Lo's Sapphic Zen-babe must be seen to believed — Gigli is downright giggly with dementia.

Where one might be tempted to wade into the turbulent murk of the movie's sexual and representational politics — to decode what it says about lesbianism, the mentally challenged, New Age philosophy and the sacred mystery of J.Lo's pudenda — to do so would be to undermine the movie's pure squeal factor.

At least on first viewing, this is a movie best experienced for the sheer, balls-out bravura of its badness.

Like Showgirls, it's a landmark of inadvertent entertainment.

Bad movies rarely get better.

  

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131. "every firing squad needs a witness"
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'Gigli' not even good for a giggle
Affleck, Lopez dullest onscreen duo of year

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/08/01/DD247184.DTL&type=movies

"Gigli" doesn't need a review; it needs an inquest. The movie is dead on arrival. Who or what killed it?
There are multiple suspects: Was it the endless prattle? The ludicrously inappropriate soundtrack? The funereal pacing? The uneasy mix of vulgarity and cheap sentiment? The almost nonexistent story? The resounding miscasting of Ben Affleck as a tough guy and Jennifer Lopez as a woman who'd actually speak to him? Or the bad, bad, bad, bad writing? The answer: This is one of those "Murder on the Orient Express" situations, in which all the suspects are guilty. The result is the most thoroughly joyless and inept film of the year, and one of the worst of the decade.

We're talking about a disaster, and not of the fun "Showgirls" variety, either. "Gigli" is 124 minutes long, almost a marathon by romantic-comedy standards. Yet if all the apparently irrelevant, tiresome and flat-out painful moments were cut, the film would consist entirely of two scenes -- one featuring a brief appearance by Christopher Walken as a (spooky) police detective and another with Al Pacino as a (screaming) crime boss. Even those scenes are nonsensical, but the bravura turns of the veteran actors at least provide temporary distraction.

"Gigli" seems intended to be a tale of redemption. Affleck plays the title character, a strong-arm mob guy, who finds a path out of his life of loneliness and violence when he falls in love with Ricki, a beautiful lesbian mob contractor, played by Lopez. Of course, to make this transition at all meaningful, we have to believe two things: 1) that this fellow really has lived a nasty life and 2) that he's worth redeeming.

But Affleck's essence is too good-natured for us to believe him as a cruel customer, and, in fact, the movie starts by assuring us that he's basically a nice guy. So, really, there's nowhere for the character to go. Plus, as written, Gigli is such a dumbbell -- and Affleck is so distressingly convincing as a dumbbell -- that watching his character evolve is like watching mold grow.

Gigli is assigned to kidnap the brain-damaged younger brother of a federal prosecutor -- newcomer Justin Bartha, in a grotesque, on-again off-again parody of mental affliction. Because Gigli's boss isn't sure Gigli is up to the job, he partners him with Ricki, and soon the three are living together in Gigli's apartment, as a kind of mock family. Once that setup is in place, the story grinds to a halt, and what follows is about 90 minutes of a very stupid hero trying to talk a very uninterested heroine into sex.

That Lopez survives "Gigli" (barely, but she does) is due to the fact that she keeps smiling at Affleck indulgently, as though he were a big fool, and her smile seems to extend to the film as a whole. Ricki is too cool for Gigli, just as Lopez is too cool for this movie. I just hope that Lopez doesn't see "Gigli" and decide that she's too cool for Affleck, too. Watching the two of them together -- they reportedly fell in love during the making of the film -- I was reminded of an image: two people, in big winter coats, kissing passionately, feeling beautiful and not realizing that they look as clumsy as turtles. There are advantages that civilians have over movie stars, and a big one is not having to look at ourselves.

Director Martin Brest ("Scent of a Woman") also wrote the screenplay, though it's hard to fathom that the unrelenting, puerile sex talk found here --

dorm-room-like disquisitions on the relative attractiveness of the male and female organs, and the words "gobble, gobble, gobble" as an amorous invitation -- could be the product of a mature imagination.

But then, who knows? In "Gigli," when the mentally challenged teenager says he loves "Baywatch" because "that's where the sex is," sentimental violins play on the soundtrack. And almost every time Gigli refers to his penis, a soulful acoustic guitar is heard -- the penis theme, as it were. This is a fairly demented film, but not nearly demented enough to be interesting.

  

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132. "You get the "gobble gobble" line story from The Sun?"
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New low, J-Lo


'It's turkey time' ... J-Lo utters odd line to Ben
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By ANTONELLA LAZZERI
in Los Angeles

FILM critics have branded J-Lo and Ben Affleck’s new film a “total disaster” which is destined to bomb at the box office.

Gigli has had reviewers sniggering in the aisles at the “laughable dialogue and ludicrous plot”.

In the film J-Lo plays a lesbian assassin who is seduced by hitman Affleck.

One critic said: “It has the feel of a straight to video film. There were a lot of rumours from the set that it was a terrible movie — and it is.”

The couple fell for each in real life while filming the movie.

But on screen, their sexual chemistry is said to be seriously lacking.

Another critic said: “Affleck is just totally miscast and J-Lo is just awful.”

In one scene J-Lo, 33, tries to seduce Affleck, 30, by laying on a bed and telling him: “It’s turkey time!”

When he asks: “What?”, she replies: “Come on, gobble, gobble”.

One reviewer said: “There was J-Lo with her legs wide open trying to look sexy and then she opens her mouth and spoils it!

“It was possibly the worst line ever said in a movie.”

The film has already undergone extensive reshooting after early previews showed audiences found the ending unbelievable.

But even J-Lo diehards will be disappointed. In the only sex scene she keeps her robe on.

And gay rights groups are incensed that J-Lo’s character starts off as a lesbian but goes straight — thanks to Affleck.

  

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133. "Roger Ebert kinda liked it..."
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He gave it 2 and a half stars...said it wasn't too bad.

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134. "yeah i know. i was disappointed."
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http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/concert/13800.html#78

  

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143. "He gave thumbs up to Maid in Manhattan also"
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Maybe J-Lo promised him some ass or something

  

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137. "He was tryna be different"
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145. "I gave it 2 stars"
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they tried to jock rain man and some other shit too
much. Otherwise, great lopez shots.

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152. "you saw it?"
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are most of the reviews too harsh or just accurate?

i hope you didn't pay too much

  

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163. "most of the reviews are too harsh"
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it's not a completely horrible movie, but you can definitely
see some glaring movie editting and pacing mistakes.

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135. "lol this got RAILED in the sf chronicle today"
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like little man absence style lmao

  

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138. "YOU AIN'T NEEEEVER LIED! LMAO"
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"a little air restriction ain't hurt nobody." - BSR

  

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141. "see post #131"
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>like little man absence style lmao

i was gonna reference that in the title, but wasn't sure how many people would get it.

it was one of the last reviews i posted and i was wearing down, so seeing the guy not even there cracked me up and kept me going.

  

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136. "this is one of the best review posts ever"
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haha

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142. "the worst brings out the best in me"
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i guess. thanks

  

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146. "no doubt"
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props to ricky b for documenting america's contempt for j-lo, ben, and terrible movies.

"i smack clowns with nouns, punch herbs with verbs..."

  

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153. "actually, we'll see"
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>props to ricky b for documenting america's contempt for
>j-lo, ben, and terrible movies.

come sunday when box-office esitmates come rolling in if such contempt has materialized with the mass paying public.

okp got the disdain and scorn months ahead already on lock though.

  

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144. "this is rediculous. ARCHIVE!"
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148. "umm"
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so yeah....

um...my boy tried to peep it...and wouldn't you know shit is sold out!

imagine that!

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149. "proves the naxim"
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"Even bad press is good press"

  

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151. "RE: umm"
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>um...my boy tried to peep it...and wouldn't you know shit is
>sold out!
>

I bet this film is going to be a blockbuster. It'll go right to number 1 and everything.

People are gonna want to see if it's really *that* bad.

So they're going to give it all their money.

People love to see a good train wreck every now and then.








  

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154. "riiiiiight"
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>so yeah....
>
>um...my boy tried to peep it...and wouldn't you know shit is
>sold out!

your boy, quest? lol.

>imagine that!

i'm guessing it was a friday night show, date night and everything. and that first day would take care of the people who really (for whatever affliction) would wanna see the flick.

p.s.-tell "your boy" he should come back and play more often in sacramento.

  

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161. "u must not have heard the news......"
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Ben and J.Lo have been personally buying tickets so that it looks like people are actually watching it. Its a publicity stunt. (or at least thats what I think).

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164. "U KNOW U TRYING 2 C DA HIPS!"
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165. "but why does this fool have autism AND tourettes syndro"
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geeesh rain man 3000.

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must only be in that region. shit only made just under 4 mil. they had about 50 mil in advertising alone.

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155. "u.s. catholic bishops speak up"
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i'm only gonna put up a couple more reviews and only from curious sources.
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Gigli 0-morally offensive

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Stale romantic comedy about a low-level leg-breaker (Ben Affleck) who falls for a beautiful lesbian mob enforcer (Jennifer Lopez) hired to assist him in kidnapping a federal prosecutor's mentally handicapped brother. Lopez and Affleck exhibit more fizzle than sizzle in this overhyped clunker written and directed by Martin Brest, full of forced lewd humor and fueled by a distorted suggestion that sexuality is a malleable social construct and a casual endorsement of homosexual activity. A sexual encounter, excessive sexually explicit and rough language, as well as profanity and brief strong violence. O -- morally offensive. (R) 2003.

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A two-bit hood falls for the curvaceous female mob enforcer contracted to assist him in a high-level kidnapping only to discover that she is gay in the leaden romantic comedy "Gigli" (Columbia). As the eponymous thug played by Ben Affleck is quick to clarify, "Gigli rhymes with really" -- as in really poorly written, really badly acted, really a waste of your time.
Academy members may reconsider the Oscar they awarded director Martin Brest in 1992 for "Scent of a Woman" after they get a whiff of this stinker. Brest, who should be brought up on double charges since he also received a writing credit, is quite possibly responsible for delivering the biggest bomb since the Enola Gay.

To make a dumb story short, Affleck plays Larry Gigli, a West Coast bush-league leg-breaker who really doesn't have the stomach for his chosen line of work. Underneath his slickly coifed hair and goomba bravura is a sensitive guy searching for more than his Soprano-lite, dead-end existence. His boss, Louis (Lenny Venito), assigns Gigli to kidnap the mentally handicapped kid brother (Justin Bartha) of a federal prosecutor, in the hopes of strong-arming the feds into dropping an investigation against a mob associate back East. Aware of his stooge's habit of screwing up jobs, Louis hires some insurance muscle in the person of Ricki (Jennifer Lopez), a gorgeous lesbian who practices tantric yoga and spouts Zen aphorisms.

That's the set-up. Of course, given the hype generated by the off-screen romance of the stars, the real purpose of the afterthought plot is simply to allow ample time for the most written-about couple since Adam and Eve to sizzle on screen and show off their preternatural good looks.

In between cooing glances, Gigli finds himself falling in love with Ricki, only to be left licking his wounds when he learns that they both order their sexual entrees from the same menu column. The film's harebrained ending reverses much of what preceded it, and should stoke the embers of the "nature" vs. "nurture" debate concerning homosexuality.

Despite all the ballyhoo, Affleck and Lopez are not the second coming of Bogey and Bacall -- or, for that matter, even Lisa-Marie Presley and Michael Jackson. In fact the Jen-Ben pairing generates about as many sparks as matches in a monsoon. The scant flames ignited on screen are thoroughly extinguished by the utter inanity of the boneheaded script.

The film's tone is never established, seesawing awkwardly between comedy and melodrama. Affleck, a rabid, card-carrying member of the Red Sox nation, seems about as comfortable in his role as he would in Yankee pinstripes. His faux-fugeddaboutit facade feels forced, amounting to little more than a really bad impersonation of Robert De Niro -- or a halfway decent one of comedian Andrew Dice Clay. Lopez's performance proves that a lot of ego can be squeezed into very tight outfits. The other cast members are one-note plot-placeholders; they include Bartha doing a lame parody of Dustin Hoffman in "Rain Man" and Al Pacino doing a dead-on parody of himself.

On a much more disturbing level, the narrative is fueled by a warped view of sexuality inconsistent with Catholic teachings on the subject. Beneath the banality of the offensive sexual banter which pervades much of the dialogue is a more insidious denial of objective moral norms concerning sexual intimacy. Brest seems to suggest that sexuality is merely a malleable social construct -- illustrated by Ricki's waffling proclivities. The film's moral relativism is summed up by Gigli's mother (Lainie Kazan), who, shrugging off Ricki's homosexuality, states, "Life is not always black and white" -- in other words, there is no objective morality, only subjective shades of gray.

In "Gigli," Lopez has hit new J-lows. If her next pairing with Affleck in the soon to be released "Jersey Girl" is anything like this clunker, she may be known as Jenny from the schlock.

Due to a sexual encounter, excessive sexually explicit and rough language, as well as profanity and brief strong violence, the USCCB Office for Film & Broadcasting classification is O -- morally offensive. The Motion Picture Association of America rating is R -- restricted.

  

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156. "teen h'llywood:corrupting the youth one child at a time"
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Gigli 1/4 stars

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``Gigli'' - which spawned the phenomenon the gossip pages and celebrity magazines so lovingly refer to as ``Bennifer'' - is every bit as unwatchable as the deafening negative chatter would suggest.

The dialogue from writer-director Martin Brest is clunky, the film has serious tonal inconsistencies and at over two hours, it drags on way longer than it should.

Even making a little game of it, and trying to pinpoint the exact moment when Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez fell in love, stops being fun after a while.

Perhaps it's when he says, in an attempt to seduce her, ``I'm the bull, you're the cow.''

Or when she beckons him into foreplay by lying back in bed and purring, ``Gobble, gobble'' - which could forever change the way you view your Thanksgiving turkey.

But as pop star vehicles go, ``Gigli'' isn't as insufferable as, say, last year's Madonna-Guy Ritchie debacle, ``Swept Away.'' It's more on par with Mariah Carey's ``Glitter'' and Britney Spears' ``Crossroads.''

If this were a movie starring two B-list actors, or two complete unknowns, it probably would have gone straight to video. After curious masochists and J.Lo fans check it out the first weekend, ``Gigli'' probably will have a drop-off in audience that rivals ``The Hulk'' - 70 percent - then go to video. And with the release next spring of Kevin Smith's ``Jersey Girl,'' in which they also co-star, we can have this little conversation all over again.

For now, we have Affleck starring as incompetent mob thug Larry Gigli. (That's pronounced JEE-lee, which rhymes with really, a running joke that isn't particularly funny the first time.)

Gigli is asked to kidnap Brian (Justin Bartha), the mentally disabled younger brother of a federal prosecutor who's going after a New York mobster (Al Pacino).

His boss, however, thinks he's incapable of handling the assignment alone and sends in Ricki (Lopez), another contractor, to help him. Gigli is an anti-social lout who lives in a seedy apartment. Ricki is beautiful, grounded, enlightened. She quotes Sun Tzu - who could blame Gigli for falling for her? (And whether you like her or not, Lopez does have an undeniable presence.)

But Ricki is also a lesbian - so it makes absolutely no sense when she falls for him, too, although they have all the obligatory banter and alleged sexual tension required of a romantic comedy. (And it's only a romantic comedy sometimes. Other times, it aims to be an edgy action-crime movie; still other times, it aspires for gag-inducing poignancy.)

Apparently, the only force that binds them is the fact that they both feel squeamish about cutting off Brian's thumb and mailing it to his prosecutor brother. Instead, they break into a morgue and saw the thumb off a corpse using a plastic knife, while Brian - who has an unexplained penchant for old-school rap - sings Sir Mix-a-Lot's ``Baby Got Back.''

It's also incredibly misinformed to suggest that Ricki can be ``converted'' to heterosexuality - that a man's love is all she really needed to allay any confusion about all that silly lesbian stuff.

So what you have here is ``Rain Man'' meets ``Chasing Amy'' - which is apropos, since the latter is a 1997 Kevin Smith movie in which Affleck also starred as a guy who falls for a lesbian. Instead of counting matches and obsessing about ``The People's Court'' like Dustin Hoffman's ``Rain Man'' character, Brian counts sunflower seeds and obsesses over going to ``the Baywatch.''

Cameos from Pacino, Christopher Walken as a detective and Lainie Kazan as Gigli's mother don't help, either.

Did they owe someone a favor? What are they doing here? Pacino won his one and only Oscar with Brest for 1992's ``Scent of a Woman,'' but couldn't he have just thanked the director instead?

Instead, we get to see Pacino shoot someone in the head, then watch as fish in a nearby aquarium snack on splattered drops of the victim's blood.

HOO-HAH!!

  

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157. "so in the end . . ."
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i'm not posting anymore reviews. you either get the picture by now or should have to go and see it.

i think gigli got three positive reviews. two of them are posted here, while the other is from variety magazine, but you need a subscription to access.

ebert and my local critic both gave the film a surprising two and a half stars. they've both been married for a long time, so maybe there's another angle they're trying for.

everyone else pissed on the film, lit it on fire, and got the cyanide capsules at the ready in case anyone mentions a sequel.

and in the end it doesn't matter what the movies called, how the title is pronounced, what hollywood a-list couple is in it, what big name celebrities make cameos, and what kinda publicity you get, if it doesn't get the okayplayer seal of approval.

also, if the actress is a lesbian and has sex in the movie, and we get better shots from a four minute music video where she shows a greater stage presence, there's a better script, and it's free to watch, then call that the jennifer lopez rule and save me my nine bucks.

the end (hopefully.)

  

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158. "im going regardless"
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because of this post even.

i previously wasnt interested because i just wasnt interested.

I didnt go see Juwanna Mann for example because i knew it was going to suck.

I didnt think gigli would be horrendous, i just didnt wanna see it.

but now i must.

yeah im going to buy "out of sight" and go see this.

it cant be worse than freddy got fingered, bringing down the house or held up (jamie foxx/nia long)

  

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In 'Gigli,' Ben and Jen Corner the Bull Market

By Desson Howe
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, August 1, 2003; Page WE37


IN "GIGLI," Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck have a sustained argument about whose sexual apparatus is actually sexier: male or female. They discuss power politics in romantic relationships -- as in, who's da big tough bull and who's, you know, the submissive cow? When they're not fighting cute, they're flexing cute. A shirtless Affleck checks out his bi's and tri's in the mirror, Travis Bickle style, before hopping into bed with J-Lo, who performs leg-stretching exercises purely designed to showcase her contours.




Whatever they do, of course, is lit up like a Rembrandt painting. As if you hadn't figured this out already, the movie, written and directed by Martin ("Beverly Hills Cop") Brest, is basically an oglefest for die-hard fans of J-Lo and Ben-Yo. The story? Puh-leez.

Larry Gigli (Affleck), a reluctant, incompetent hood for a splenetic gangster named Louis (Lenny Venito), has been ordered to kidnap and baby-sit Brian (Justin Bartha), the autistic younger brother of a federal prosecutor who can keep Larry's uberboss (Al Pacino) out of jail. This is meant to be one of those offers a prosecutor can't refuse.

Louis doesn't trust Larry to do the job right, so he sends a real pro to baby-sit him. That would be Ricki (Lopez) -- at least that's what she calls herself. She may act sweet, but she's a contract killer when she needs to be.

Larry's none too thrilled about holing up in his apartment with a kid who talks like "Rain Man" and a female who calls all the shots, but it's only a matter of time before he becomes very interested in his attractive companion. That is, until he learns she's not interested in his gender.

The rest is negotiation, and I don't mean between the Mafia and the prosecutor. Larry does his best to persuade Ricki to, as he puts it, "hop the fence." She just broke up with a girlfriend and she's not completely against the idea, but first they have to argue about bulls and cows.

Apparently, the filmmakers want guys to show up for this thing, so they have filled the movie with grittiness, violence and tough talk. Larry, who's meant to be a politically incorrect paisano, swears up a storm, insults Brian and tries to tell Ricki who's da boss. (Let's just say he's a performance short of an Oscar nomination.) And to further entice the male gallery, there are cameos from Christopher Walken as an intimidating detective and Pacino as a psychotic gangster who smiles first and blows out brains afterward.

If the bull is supposed to be the dominant one, then Lopez definitely wears the horns in this celebrity meadow. But she wins this battle with a soft touch, subtle forms of intimidation and quotations from Sun Tzu's "The Art of War." Affleck's the one who strips his shirt, surrenders the most, becomes the butt of the jokes and accepts J-Lo as his own personal savior. Which, I guess, makes him the cow. Guys, I'm telling you: Don't go to this movie! It's "Chasing Amy" with guns! You're walking into a trap! This is for fans of the holy couple, but they already know that.

GIGLI (R, 124 minutes) -- Contains violence, sexual situations and pervasive obscenity. Area theaters.



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168. "RE: Wash Post has no balls"
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ok sadly i read like 30 reviews but I stayed here just to read the titles. I commend you. I will ty to dl this piece of shit. If i cant I will go sneak in and watch it. I figure a 12 pack and this movie will be gold

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169. "personally what disappointed me"
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was that it wasnt that bad. i went in expecting a disaster. i think the press just really wanted to have something bad to say about the 2 stars.

now its awfully random, and sloppy at points
plus the ben/jennifer situation is a subplot rather thena the story itself.

but the dialogue is good, and its actually kind of funny. plus the kid loved hip-hop.

not something i'd ever watch again by myself, but it wasnt a waste

  

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170. "but he was retarded"
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>plus the kid loved hip-hop.

hollywood undertones of attack.

  

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173. "2 more comments"
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she took sexiness to a new level and i wasnt really in awe before this movie.

how many people refused to see this based off of the bad reviews it got? i think the audience was strictly young white (female) affleck fans and people like me who wondered exactly how bad it could be.

slight spoiler: when affleck broke the punk's laptop and said www.suckmydick.com, i found that golden.

  

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171. "box-office results"
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according to yahoo entertainment, the esitimates for gigli are that the film will enter 7th place at the box office this week with a take of 3.8 million. that is bad.

i think i read somewhere where the budget was like 35m+, mainly based on affleck and lopez's salaries.

  

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177. "budget"
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54 million was the budget that i just read.

  

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172. "RE: Official number"
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3.8 mil. avg per screen: $1200. that's not a good look. Especially for Jen, coming off Maid in Manhattan. This is officially a brick.

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174. "Budgeted at 55 million"
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20 million advertising.

3.8 Opening weekend take.

The shit went right through the fan in this one.

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184. "where did all that money go?"
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for real?

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175. "It sucked."
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That is all.

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178. "How cheesy is it"
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that the gas station scene in this movie, is the exact same scene from "jenny from the block", minus the boy with mental retardation? As if that song was part of the soundtrack of this movie, they basically took the younger brother out of the scene, added in a fake Enquirer newspaper, and put the scene in a J.Lo. video. Ben-Lo said on Entertainment Tonight or whatever, that he wishes the public would just forget about them, and focus on another celebrity couple, because he doesn't see what the big deal is. I agree, except I don't want to focus on another celebrity couple EITHER.

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181. "You have been vindicated."
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http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/weekendboxofficea.html

"The Ben Affleck-Jennifer Lopez movie 'Gigli' debuted dismally following weeks of toxic buzz and near-unanimous critical revulsion. The comedy about a gangster who falls in love with a lesbian rival during a kidnapping earned $3.8 million.

"'This is not a shock,' said Tom Sherak, a partner in Revolution Studios, which produced 'Gigli' for Sony Pictures Entertainment.

"He said constant gossip and tabloid and TV coverage of Affleck and Lopez's real-life romance may have created a backlash against the picture. 'I've seen a lot worse movies,' Sherak said.

"'Hey, is it the best movie ever made? Ehh, I don't think so. ... Other movies have gotten ravaged by critics and have opened up at least OK. It was more than that,' he said.

"Although Affleck and Lopez already have completed another movie together — writer-director Kevin Smith's 'Jersey Girl' — the foul reception of 'Gigli' may end the couple's working relationship.

"'They'll continue to be big stars, and chances are they will not work together again — and they shouldn't, by the way,' Sherak said. 'You move on. Look, the picture cost $54 million. So everyone is going to get hurt a bit.'"


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183. "where did the $54 million dollars go?"
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seriously?

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186. "down the drain"
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>seriously?

jennifer lopez salary was 12m
ben affleck got 12.5m
another poster said they spent 20m on advertising

thats 44.5million
+ normal movie expenses + pacino + walken=54m?

i bet they don't make 18m (1/3 budget) at the box office.

  

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187. "affleck admits the film sucks"
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more or less

Affleck: "It Didn't Work."

http://us.imdb.com/StudioBrief/#1

Now that he no longer is obliged to promote Gigli -- it bombed in its first weekend, earning only $3.8 million at the box office -- Ben Affleck has conceded, "The movie didn't work." In an interview with Daily Variety columnist Army Archerd, Affleck said, "You work just as hard on a good movie as on a bad one. We tried to fix it. But it was like putting a fish's tail and a donkey's head." Affleck followed the somewhat awkward simile with some mixed metaphors to describe the film's critical reception: ""I feel like we were caught in the eye of a storm -- an earthquake that starts out at sea and by the time it reaches the shore it's !!!" (Presumably Archerd employs the three exclamation marks to indicate a profane word.) As for the possibility that he and Jennifer Lopez will be hired to appear in another film together, Affleck responded: "We probably won't be getting many offers." Even veteran studio exec Tom Sherak, a partner in Revolution Studios, which made Gigli with Sony Pictures, told today's New York Post, "Chances are they will not work together again -- and they shouldn't, by the way."

  

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